1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Back on the drive here our number two on a Tuesday, 4 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: and that's gonna mean some things around these parts, namely, 5 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: it's time for a little fantasy football focus. All right, 6 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: Matt Week one in the books, what do you say 7 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: we go through some some winners, some losers of the 8 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: Week one fantasy slate here Number one feels like you 9 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: gotta talk about a Mecca Abuka pretty quickly in this 10 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: in this conversation, he had the most points by a 11 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: wide receiver fantasy points in his first career NFL game 12 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: since Hollywood Brown in twenty nineteen. Wow, including that game 13 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: winning touchdown with just about a minute left. 14 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll be honest his we won't talk about 15 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: like preseason ADPs and things like that much longer, but 16 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: it's relevant with only one game in the books. It 17 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: starts shooting up and shooting up and shooting up, and 18 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: you had to use a higher pick every time to 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: get them, and I kept moving them up my list 20 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: at a rapid rate. People that saw him at joint 21 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: practice year, we saw him, you know, in acta sure 22 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: live all the reports, Godwin being out, McMillan gets hurt 23 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: against the Steelers too. It's a good offense. Mayfield played 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: quite well in this game too, him and Evans getting 25 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: all the targets they don't want to throw the tight ends. 26 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: Those are all check marks in his favor. And rookie 27 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: receivers are not a bad investment. And he's way ahead 28 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: of the curve. 29 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: Oh, he absolutely isn't. 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: Every year there's some of those sleeper guys that they 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: get taken really high some drafts, not as as you 33 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: expect in some and it can end up sometimes working 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: out really well, sometimes biting you in the butt. This 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: seems like one that is gonna gonna work out really well. Yeah. 36 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: I think you're gonna be real happy no matter where 37 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: you got him. I wish I would have got him 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: more in drafts because I tried. 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: To absolutely, and I mean especially with Godwin sidelined, I 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: mean he is, He's gonna have a big role. 41 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: I think those Ohio State receivers have translated pretty well 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: to the league too, And got one coming here next week. 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, second on this list, we do. And we just 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: saw one as well too. I who finds himself on 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: this list and Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson and Justin Fields 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: both listed here on ESPN Fantasy as winners. I mean 47 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: that's I think what everybody thought was going to be 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: tough sledding, a slow day, a slog for the Jets 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: offense was anything but. 50 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: Anything but anything but I mean, he got well start 51 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: with Fields. The Fields played the best game of his career. 52 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: Read something today, I don't know who even wrote it, 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: but it was just really well phrased that Fields made 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: strides as a fantasy related as a stealer, He's gotten 55 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 3: better every year, and he got better as a Steeler, 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: but in an offense designed for Russell Wilson, not him. 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: This Jets offense is designed for Fields, you know. And 58 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: the Steelers didn't want to run him a ton, especially 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: when Wilson was hurt. But this team is going to 60 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: run him a ton. And I think people might have 61 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: even been shocked how fast he gets to the edge. 62 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: I mean, he out runs Watt to the edge and 63 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: big time players defensive backs. 64 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: There was a couple there was a couple of times 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: Patrick Queen read it perfectly, yeah and can't get it 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: and still and still was it even within two yards 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: of him, right, he couldn't have read it better and 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: reacted better. And he was still when he wasn't even 69 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: within two yards of them. 70 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: It's like Lamar Vick stuff, you know, like you know 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: he's fast, but then you're on the field with him, like, whoa, 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: this is a different cat and Fields is definitely that 73 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: and most and that's not the most startling thing in 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: the world. But he was great from the pocket, yeah, 75 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: I mean just within the confines of the pocket, throwing 76 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: accurate balls. I watched a lot of Field stuff this morning, 77 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: can tell you know, tight window stuff, ball coming out 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: on time. I mean, I'm happy for him. I mean 79 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: it's it's really good. And a lot of people shied 80 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: away from Wilson because super low volume. Everyone's gonna he's 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: gonna get quadruple covered. Fields is a very good quarterback. 82 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes Wilson's just a great player, you know. And he 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: showed up in a big way in this game too. Yeah, 84 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: I would do Yeah. 85 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: Those two again, Jets have. 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: Some building blocks. I mean they aren't fancy related. I 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: was really impressed with eight to ten Jets players one week. 88 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: One data point. You got it. Nothing is proven, nothing 89 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: is solved, nothing is concrete. Certainly after one game. Yeah, 90 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: I think you and I talked about this a little 91 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: bit yesterday. There's no like moral victories in the NFL. 92 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: You only have seventeen games. You gotta win. But if 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 2: I were a Jets fan, I think I'd be feeling 94 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: about as good as you could after a You. 95 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: Feel better about my team after the game than before. 96 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: Brownies could even say that too. I think the Browns 97 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: could say. 98 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: That too, certainly, certainly, But for the Jets, I don't 99 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: think it's even particularly close. 100 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: I think this is, you know, steeler note, but you know, 101 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: a post game note. The Jets are going to have 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: an O line. Membo and for Shanu are big time dudes. 103 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: And Tipman was really good at guards, really good at center. 104 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they're gonna have an NO line. 105 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: They sure are. Your boy, Membo good could start for him, 106 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: certainly finding himself on this list of winners as well 107 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: to Matt and I mean, man, I don't think anybody 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: saw this coming. How about the Sunday that Daniel Jones had. 109 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: Yes, now, we kind of did a segment on this 110 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: just stock up, stock down teams today on Peacock and 111 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: Williamson and the easiest stock down team on the planet, 112 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: the Dolphins. I mean, that's a disaster. And then I 113 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: even mentioned I'm like, Carolina is so happy that Miami 114 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: exists because everyone's because they were the second most diss 115 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: So I don't know to overreact. What I think how 116 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: I phrased it today was a lot of these things. 117 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: Was you know, was this team bad or is this 118 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: team good? It's yeah, it's forty five to fifty five, 119 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: it's fifty to fifty. But in this one, I'm like, 120 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that was eighty percent the Dolphins being horrible. 121 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: So I'm not ready to be like, oh, the cults 122 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: are gonna win eleven games Daniel. But Daniel Jones, it 123 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: is a fantasy segment. Like Fields has been way more 124 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: fantasy relevant than he has been on the field. 125 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: He don't because he runs. He runs, running touchdowns, rushing 126 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: touchdown really good. 127 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 3: Right, Like, if you're starting Daniel Jones, he's probably not 128 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: in a lot of leagues. He's startable because he runs. 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,119 Speaker 3: I can't stress that enough. I mean, if he gets 130 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 3: benched and Richardson takes over, start him, He's gonna run. 131 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: That's all the matters. He's not gonna complete zero passes. 132 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: I think he will be uh, you know, for for 133 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: a guy that was well, let's see, was available in 134 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: ninety five percent of ESPN leagues, right, right, right, I 135 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: think that number is gonna be much different though heading 136 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: into the much certainly. 137 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: Like you're starting him way over Tua. It never runs 138 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: at all, absolutely right, right, absolutely. I mean as great 139 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: as Rogers was, I mean, as great as Rogers was, 140 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: you start him over Rogers. He's not gonna throw four 141 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: touchdowns every week. It's just the nature of the game 142 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: you're playing. It's fantacy football. It's not real football. 143 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: And you had that, Like you and I were texting 144 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: last night. I was shocked that Pro Football Focus had 145 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers ranked with the twenty second of the twenty 146 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: fourth best warback. I don't agree with and you, like, 147 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: I don't agree with it. But they also ding quarterbacks 148 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: that don't run. Yeah, but then Matthew Stafford was number 149 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: one on their list. 150 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 3: Buzzy. I didn't study it too hard. Yeah, I didn't 151 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: approve of that list. 152 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: Again, it's it's a it's a resource. It is it is. 153 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: I think you and I are pretty level headed on 154 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus we it's certainly a resource, but not 155 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: everything they say is gospel at the same time, and 156 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: we don't have to act like it is, and. 157 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: I forget what it is. I cut and pasted and 158 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: quoted something from them on this morning that was still 159 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: related I thought was really good, you know. 160 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: So you know, another quarterback on this list was Aaron Rodgers. 161 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: They are saying, they are saying he is now an 162 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: extremely viable number two two quarterback options for two quarterback 163 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: and super flex leagues. 164 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: Agreed, But I think this is a much different test 165 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: this week because, as we talked about an hour one, 166 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: obviously in hindsight, a major game plan was throw at 167 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: every defensive back not named Sauce. Well, you're not going 168 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: to do that this week because all their defensive backs 169 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: are good. They may not have a Sauce Witherspoon's really 170 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: good because mostly a slot. They don't have a weak 171 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: spot in their secondary. So does that mean that the 172 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: past percentage will go down? I'm sure four touchdowns is 173 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 3: not the norm, and one of which I'm not taking 174 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: away from Aaron Rodgers, but it bugs me to no end. 175 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: This is mahomes thing too. The pitch thing is not 176 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: really a touchdown pass folks in the real world. I 177 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: don't know why the NFL calls with that. 178 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: That's just you know what, well, you know where that 179 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: kind of started and became the original. Is this Is 180 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: this a jet sweep? Is this a past? It's Gino 181 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: Smith and Tavon Austin say, is this WU two thousand 182 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: and nine. Do you remember Dana Holgerson, He was like 183 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: the hot, upstart offensive coordinator, became the w head coach 184 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: and Austin perfect for that, and Tavon Austin was perfect 185 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: for it and had seven hundred yards against Clemson and 186 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: the Orange Bowl using that play, and the next year 187 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: it was in the NFL. 188 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: Okay, it just shocks me they call it a pass. 189 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: That that was the that whole thing, that whole year 190 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: there was. 191 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: That Geno must have threw a million touchdown passes. 192 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: He had a game against Baylor Matt we scored seventy points. 193 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: This was my this was my this was my senior 194 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: year of coin. 195 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: You're a student, Okay, Yeah. 196 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: Forty six of fifty one Gino was for eight touchdowns 197 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: and six hundred and fifty six yards and not all 198 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: of that, obviously, but a few of those were one 199 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: of those little pop passes. 200 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: That we got to complete. 201 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: Tavon Austin took forty sixty seventy yards to the house, 202 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: and it was like a lot of people started looking 203 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: at that and going, hmm, there's something there. 204 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. I had no problem using it fifteen years ago 205 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: for fantasy. It drives me crazy that that's a touchdown 206 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: pass homes I was like twelve him in his career. 207 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: I could certainly see why why that? Why that would 208 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: be okay? Another name on this list. Good to see 209 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: him back doing the things that we expect him. 210 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: To real quickly. I wouldn't go running to the waiver 211 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: wire to get Rogers yet, Like, I'm not starting him 212 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: next week. There's no way he's a top twelve guy 213 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: for me yet if one, because he's have zero rushing. 214 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: That's that's the thing I think, if you're really desperate 215 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: for a backup. Yeah, different conversation at this point, but 216 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: let's let's see it. Let's see it one more week. 217 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: Another guy who we have to talk about here, Matt 218 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: as A as a winner. Good to see him back 219 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: doing his thing in healthy Christian McCaffrey. 220 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: Yes, and wow, I mean we talk a lot of 221 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: Niners on our podcast, and now Jennings has banged up, 222 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: Kittle's going to ir he's banged up. The workload's going 223 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: to be nuts. And I forget what my co host, 224 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: who hosts Locked on forty nine or said, but something 225 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: like and it's it's obviously it's a one, one game thing. 226 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: But he's like he's on pace for like six hundred 227 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: touches this year. Well that's all you need to know. 228 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: I mean, he's running back one right now. Yes, just 229 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: because the workload is gonna be insane, does he hold up? 230 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, it doesn't matter, but if he touches 231 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: the ball thirty five times, he's gonna score a million 232 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: fantasy points. 233 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: I did want to run a couple of these fantasy 234 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: football arrows down after Week one for you. Where are 235 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: you out on Joe Burrow? 236 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm not worried too good at a football player. I 237 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: don't think the Browns have this miraculous I think the 238 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: Browns defense played really well. I thought they out coached 239 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 3: the Bengals to some degree. Bengals are slow starters. I 240 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: don't want to give that too much of an excuse, 241 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 3: but Burrow's gonna throw the ball and throw the ball well. 242 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: Seven yards in the second half. So it's still insane 243 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: to me. 244 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: That's still insane to me. But like I'm not selling 245 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: Chase or Burrow, true, I just know they're good at football. 246 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: They could have run the push push every play in 247 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: the second half and gotten more than seven yards, right, 248 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: That's incredible. Also listed as a arrow down all playmakers 249 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: on the Detroit Lions offense. I don't know if I'm 250 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: that's a lot. 251 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: That's a big leap. I mean, those guys are pretty good. 252 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: To say that they aren't going to produce on offense 253 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: quite like they did the last couple of years, I 254 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: might buy into maybe, but I also don't think like 255 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: it's going to look like it did at lambeau Field 256 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: for the next sixteen guys. 257 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: They walked into a Hornets nest that just traded for 258 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: Micah Parsons, and I know Ben Johnson isn't there anymore. 259 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: And frankly this is a side note, but I mean 260 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: they obviously lost a good coordinator that went to the 261 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: Jets as well, you know, I mean I was really 262 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: impressed with the way the Jets were coached. I mean, 263 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: that's gonna have ramifications just on the Lions overall, but 264 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: I'm still starting online. Ross ain't Brown and Gibbs and 265 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: you know, right right right. 266 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: One hundred one hundred hundred percent and a heck of 267 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: a catch by by Isaac Tesla. 268 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: He's not quite fantasy relevant yet. 269 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: Not yet. He might be a who yeah by week four, 270 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: week five, week six, if you need a wide receiver, 271 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 2: he has his feet wet. 272 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: He oh, he's their number three. 273 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: He's there, he's their number three and solid preseason and 274 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: solid start to his NFL career. A trio of wide 275 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: receivers listed as arrow down, AJ Brown, Tyreek Hill, Nico Collins. 276 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: Tyreek worries me to no end because he might. He 277 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: reminds me of end of career ab starting to lose 278 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: his mind a little bit without a Tomlin to keep 279 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: him under wraps. And vibes in Miami are horrendous. I 280 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: think A Chan's really the only guy I'm comfortable with 281 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 3: because they'll still dump it. 282 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: To him, and you know, you gotta run the football. 283 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: They don't run the football. So Miami scares me. You 284 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: knew this when you when you when you drafted AJ 285 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: Brown the second or third round, you have to know 286 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: that there's two or three games a year where they 287 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: just run like crazy and go elsewhere. It just happened 288 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: to get one a week one, you know. Yeah, get 289 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: over it, Nico. If he's stock dropped a penny, I'm 290 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 3: buying at that price. I think he's a under superstar there. 291 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 3: Our line was a problem, but Nico will be absolutely fine. 292 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: I'll put my reputation on it. 293 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: I think you will too. Houston feels like one of 294 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: those teams that started slow a little bit lately, Yeah, 295 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: and then started to figure it out. It was, It 296 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: certainly was, but I'm not betting on that being the 297 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: norm for as talented as that team is and what 298 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: they have at quarterback and with some of their playmakers. 299 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: Like I'm not interested in like Higgins and Noel and 300 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: those guys as much anymore. But Nico, fire them up. 301 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: I'm with you. There's some fantasy football up and down 302 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: for you for Week one. We will have more fantasy 303 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: conversation as the week rolls along. But Matt, what do 304 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: you say we get into some power rankings Little Tuesday 305 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: power rankings when we return here, we'll go over those. 306 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: Give some thoughts. You start at thirty two and work 307 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: your way to one. 308 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: Do it. 309 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: It's the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio on the 310 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network, your tunes. 311 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four We're seven, home of 312 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: the Black and Goals, Steelers Nation Radio. 313 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: Week one in the books across the National Football League 314 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: after last night's crazy one in Chicago. We will discuss 315 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: that before we get out of here, little Monday night 316 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: football recap, before we are finished with this second hour 317 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: of the Drive. But Matt, now, with all the Week 318 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: one results in the books, we do have just one, 319 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: but we have some data points. Now for all these teams, 320 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna roll through some power rankings. Yeah, sure, from 321 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: NFL dot Com. Number thirty two the New Orleans Saints. 322 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be honest. I mean, I'm not saying 323 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: they shouldn't be thirty two, but every on the planet 324 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: had the Saints and Browns thirty one, thirty two, thirty two, 325 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: thirty one wherever, And I'm not saying that they shouldn't 326 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: be there. But I thought both teams played way better 327 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: than I expected in Week one, and Rattler was not terrible. 328 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: I mean, they played the Cardinals hard, and I don't 329 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: know that Like if you said who's you get the 330 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: first pick in the draft. You can have the Browns 331 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: and Saints or the field field. 332 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: I think I take the field Miami Dolphins. 333 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there's some teams that are not looking 334 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: so good right now, you know so, and before I 335 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: probably would have taken those two. You know, you can 336 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: have the other thirty give me those two. And I 337 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,479 Speaker 3: don't want to overreact, but they were pretty respectable. 338 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: I agree. I was surprised to see them at thirty two. Yeah. Yeah, 339 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: I thought Carolina had a worse performance. I thought Miami 340 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: certainly had a worse performance. 341 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: And they were the worst two teams of Week one. 342 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: It's just how far do you want to drop. 343 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: Them in this? Like power rankings are supposed to be 344 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: a reaction. They're supposed to be hyperbolic in the moment, 345 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: not big picture. Well, okay, the Panthers looked worse than 346 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: the Saints, but we still think the Panthers are a 347 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: better team. Like, No, that's what power rankings are for 348 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: week the week move movement. 349 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think how good the team is this second 350 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: that I jotted on a piece of paper. 351 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: You can't have the chief, second or third on your 352 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: list this week after they just lost their. 353 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: Opener, right, It doesn't mean they have they have to 354 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: be behind the Chargers though, either. 355 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean they have to be behind every team 356 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: that won a game, right, right, right, right. But but 357 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: you also you have to take that week to week 358 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: ebb and flow and how they just performed in their 359 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: most recent performance. Yeah, and I don't think you can 360 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: put the Saints at thirty two. I'm with you. 361 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were okay. 362 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: Carolina at thirty one. I think you could certainly have 363 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: put it third. 364 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: It was miserable. It was miserable, young looked bad, defense 365 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 3: was terrible. They were pretty. 366 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: That's about it. 367 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: That was about the only bright spot. Glad you brought 368 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: that up. 369 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: Cleveland at number thirty. 370 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: Again, I don't think they're good, but they played pretty well. 371 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 2: I think you can look at it and you can 372 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: say their defense is going to be good enough to 373 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: keep them in a lot of games. Yeah, but that 374 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: their offense is going to struggle mightily. 375 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: I'd imagine, And I think Flacco is going to be 376 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: a real roller coaster. And the O line didn't play 377 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: very well. I mean, they weren't great, but they they 378 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: were a respectable sixty minutes. They put out there. 379 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: You know, absolutely absolutely weren't a joke. I think they 380 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: held the Cincinnati Bengals offense to seven yards in the 381 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: second I know I've said that about five times in 382 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: the last. 383 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: Two ten points or fourteen points or something for the 384 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 3: whole day. 385 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: Very very impressive. The New York Giants check in at 386 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: number twenty nine. We're going to see Jackson Dart this weekend. 387 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 3: No, but we are going too soon, and I think 388 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 3: they're trying to chomping at the bit to get him 389 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: in there, which I totally understand. Russ was fine, he 390 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: wasn't the problem, but he's not the answer. O Line 391 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: was pretty miserable. I don't have a problem with him this. 392 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: Low twenty eight. Those Miami Dolphins. 393 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: Okay, now do they say where they were last week? 394 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: For whoever's last week? 395 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: They were twenty fourth last week, so they fell four spots. 396 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 3: And they had to fall. I mean, they were the 397 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: most embarrassing, non serious team out there. Lord, I was 398 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: thinking that too, like man, maybe, I mean, what do 399 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: you do? What's weird is the way I think his 400 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: contract structured is they can even trade him at the 401 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: deadline too. Yes, yes, they might. 402 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: Start I'm not saying. I'm not saying he's going to 403 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: do like Tyreek Hill type things, but. 404 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: He could be a pretty uncomfort. 405 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: They might get the week four, Week five and he's like. 406 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: Hey, they two or three games like that. 407 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: I don't oh, man, I don't want to be here. 408 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 2: This is not what I'm trying to do. Can we 409 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: can we get me moving? 410 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: I think their head coaches Hot Seed is the hottest 411 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: of any I bet in Vegas. You know, you can 412 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: always bet on first fight coach, which is pretty rude, 413 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: but anyway, I bet he's the shortest. 414 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: Odds going into the season. I would have probably had 415 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 2: Stefanski and Glennon from Arizona ahead of him. 416 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Giants, I knew we're high too. 417 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: But but right now I think you're right. I think 418 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: right now. 419 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: It's just a miserable situation. 420 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: It just sits in it. Man. The a lot of 421 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 2: the messaging in the press conferences and things since then 422 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: of not sounding out at all. 423 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 3: The vibes are terrible. 424 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: Twenty seven. I don't get this. The Jets are at 425 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: twenty seven. 426 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: Ooh. 427 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they should be seventeen, but I think 428 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: they should be higher than twenty seven. They were thirty 429 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: last week. They moved up three spots. 430 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: They could crash and burn, but that version of the 431 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: Jets would have beat a lot of teams last week, 432 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: a lot of teams. I think they're really trending the 433 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 3: right direction. I hope it keeps up for them, because 434 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: Fields is kind of easy to root for. 435 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. Tennessee number twenty. 436 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: Sex say Tennessee needs to be low. 437 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: They need to be low. Certainly some encouraging moments from 438 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: cam Ward, but yeah, Tennessee, I mean they are. They 439 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: are at the very bottom, the very start of a rebuild. 440 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: He didn't get much help, you know. Ward was doing 441 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff on his own, a lot of drops, 442 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: a lot of penalties. They gave the The Broncos though 443 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: a legit game, but Denver didn't play very well. I 444 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 3: would drop Denver from wherever they were at too. Nicks 445 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 3: had a really rough day. 446 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: Nick struggled. I thought some just some questionable decision making 447 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: by Denver and Sean Payton and there as well too. 448 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: Twenty five the New England Patriots. 449 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: Pretty underwhelming against a not great Raiders team at home. 450 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: I may be in a little harsher on them. I'd 451 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 3: got the Jets over the Patriots right now. 452 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: I would as well too. Yeah, yeah, I certainly would 453 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: as well. I think that that's an easy yeasy one. 454 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 455 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: Twenty four up four spots after their big dominating win. 456 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 2: It's the Indianapolis Colts. 457 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm looking to overreact to them. I don't think 458 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: they're all of a sudden gon to win double digit games, 459 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: no anything. 460 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: I think that's about right for them. 461 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got to move them up. They dominated 462 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 3: a football team, so yes, but let's see it again. 463 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think like I. You know, if 464 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: they go out and lose next week, I wouldn't drop 465 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: them a bunch of spots. I think that's I think 466 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: that's about right for the pretty even Stephen twenty three. 467 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 2: You just mentioned them, those Las Vegas Raiders up two 468 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: spots after winning a New England. 469 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: You know, it was really good, your boy. 470 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: He was the one hundred and sixty two yards. 471 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: It was a good article on ESPN talking about all 472 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks their first start with new team, and they 473 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: ranked him one, Rogers two field three. I got a 474 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: problem with that. You know, they all three of them 475 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: are really successful with their new teams. 476 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: I almost sent you a tweet. I think it was 477 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: yesterday maybe, or maybe Sunday night. You and I often 478 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: send each other goofy things at goofy hours of the day, 479 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: and I think it was someone from the Football Outsiders 480 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: that they just tweeted out like a good litmus test 481 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: of your football knowledge, is what you think of Gino Smith? 482 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's a great way of 483 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: looking at it. Right. Oh, he. 484 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: He's a bump. Yeah, yeah, right now, if you think 485 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: he's the best quarterback in the world, obviously goes the 486 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: other way too, but he is. He is in that 487 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: he is in that tier of good NFL quarter certing p. 488 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: Twenty two also one to zer and feeling good about themselves. 489 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: The Jacksonville Jaguars. 490 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they thumped the Panthers. That game really wasn't close. 491 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: It was pretty much over at the half. 492 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: Dallas, I haven't talked about them for a while. They've 493 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: been inactive for a few days, playing that Thursday game 494 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia and following dropping that contest. Part of me 495 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: to the Eagles. Dallas comes in at twenty one. 496 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: And they hung around with two Bowl champs pretty well. 497 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: I don't have real high hopes for them overall, but 498 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 3: you know, I think they'll be okay. 499 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: I think between DAK and CD, and I expect George 500 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: Pickens to have a bigger role, I think they'll be okay. 501 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Levante Williams was better than I thought, and defense 502 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: was better than I thought. 503 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: But they strike me as a middle of the road, 504 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: eight or nine win team. 505 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: Oh sure, don't see him a little under but yeah, 506 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: I hear you. Maybe I don't. I just believe. 507 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I think they've got a floor with 508 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: that offense. Number twenty the Atlanta Falcons. What'd you think 509 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 2: about Penix? We didn't didn't talk about him much in 510 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: these past two. 511 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really growing on me. I mean, he wasn't 512 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: tremendous or anything. I mean they London was banged up, 513 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: and they're trying to get him the football a bunch 514 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: and I need to watch more Bucks Falcons probably tonight 515 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: I'll throw it on or whatever too. But I think 516 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: they're real happy with him. And so that's about right 517 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: for Atlanta. 518 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: Good starting point. Yeah, yeah for one. You know, despite 519 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: the loss, it is and they got a tough one though. 520 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: They gotta go Sunday night football at Minnesota the Falcons. 521 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: The Falcons do. Yeah, after they're starting zero to one, 522 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: that's always tough. Number nineteen, the team that we are 523 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: going to see next, the Seattle Seahawks. 524 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to talk too much about them. 525 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: I love their defense, their offense has major problems. 526 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: I think it's that simple for Seattle, and I don't 527 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: I expect that to be the tune that everyone will 528 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: sing for eighteen weeks talking about that Seas team. Number 529 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: eighteen some good things last night, but still lost. The 530 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: Chicago Bears. 531 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're still learning. I think there are 532 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: a bunch of puppies trying to figure things out. Rode 533 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 3: the momentum early in home and then the water level 534 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: started even. 535 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: Out a little bit, you know, big one. Next week, 536 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 2: they've got the Lions. One of those teams. 537 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 3: Wouldn't want to love the We wouldn't love to play 538 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: the Lions after they got beat pretty bad last week. 539 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: And if you start two in that division. 540 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, good point two division losses, that's tough. Yeah yeah, 541 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: those division losses. 542 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 2: That would be that would be that would be very 543 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: very tough to recover from. I know the if you 544 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: start oh and two, you're doomed. Isn't quite to the 545 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: same extent now that the regular season is seventeen games 546 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: and there's an extra wild card team in both conferences. 547 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 2: It's not the traditional thinking behind that. But you start 548 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: oh and two in your division, good luck. You're digging 549 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: yourself a big hole. 550 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Right. 551 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals come in at number seventeen after their 552 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: victory against those Gnawlin Saints. They they get their home 553 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: opener against the Panthers this week. They could be very 554 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: easily two and oh by the time we get Yeah, and. 555 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: I bet they will. I'm sure they're favored by five 556 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: or six as they were in New Orleans. Again, I 557 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: was kind of more impressed with the Saints than I 558 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: was impressed with the Cardinals, even though New Orleans lost. 559 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: It's a nice start to the season for the Cardinals. 560 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a nice Saints. 561 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: Saints and Panthers. That's a nice one too. Number sixteen 562 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: right in the middle the Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, so that 563 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 2: at NFL dot Com says they are fortunate to have 564 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: won on. 565 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: I think there's some truth to that. I mean, you 566 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: hit a sixty yard field goal, I mean, and there's 567 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 3: an art to some of these things too. I said 568 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: this a couple of times. I thought, on a play 569 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: by play basis that New York was the better team. 570 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean you're better at winning football games 571 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: the way you have to win football games in this 572 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: league and make big plays when it matters most, and 573 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: have your best players the Ramseys and Boswell's and Rogers 574 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 3: come through in the clutch, you know, they're something said 575 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 3: for that. 576 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: San Francisco at number fifteen, I don't, I don't know. 577 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: It's a little rich. It's a little rich for me. 578 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: I know they're not in a great spot right now, 579 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: you know, injuries and whatnot. Their defense played better than 580 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: I expected, But is that the Seattle's being bad? That's offense, you. 581 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: Know, you know, and got some big injuries as you mentioned. Yeah, 582 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: that Seahawks d defense is good. But I don't think. 583 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: I don't think they, you know, went on the road 584 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: and beat some great team Week one. It's fifteen. It's 585 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: not like they're right eleven, probably the Steelers. I think 586 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: I have the Steelers over the Niners as well too. 587 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: Number fourteen, the Houston Texans, a you know, surprising lackluster 588 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: effort out in LA to start the season. But it's 589 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: just one game. I think they're still the clear cut 590 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: division favorites. Yes, I think fourteen's about right for them 591 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: after Sunday. 592 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I expected more, but I also expected that to 593 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: be a low defensive minded game, which it was. Their 594 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: defense is still really good. The line thing, I don't 595 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: know is anything close to being fixed. 596 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: I don't It's been an issue for them. 597 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big problem. 598 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 2: Since I was in high school. Number thirteen the LA Chargers. 599 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: I thought they might be a little bit higher. 600 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a propressive performance. Herbert was phenomenal. 601 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: Great. 602 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: I would have bumped them more. 603 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: I think I would have two, especially considering right in 604 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: front of them. Number twelve the Cincinnati Bank. 605 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: I think you have to put the Chargers over the 606 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 3: Benk I think now. 607 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: I think you do as well too. Yeah, I think 608 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: you do as well too. 609 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 3: And the quarterbacks are at least comparable. It's one of 610 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: the few teams that can at least hang with Cincinnati 611 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: quarterback wise. You know. 612 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: Number eleven the Minnesota Vikings. What a roller coaster for 613 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy and his debut last night. 614 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: I thought he was really overwhelmed early on, and that 615 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 3: was a tough environment. I mean Chicago. 616 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about that a little more specifically to 617 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: skip those in the next segment, number ten, the Los 618 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: Angeles Rams. After the defense held the Texans to just 619 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty five yards. 620 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: Stafford played really well, so I mean that my big 621 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: concern with them is his houses back. I was getting 622 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: hold up, but I don't think you can go down 623 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: that road for this exercise. He played great and he's 624 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: out there, so you treat him like any other quarterback. 625 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: I think you'll get a kick out of this in 626 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: some of the drive listeners as well too. I wanted 627 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: to make sure to laugh about this real quick with you. 628 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: You know my pension for messing up first names, right, 629 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: I called Sky with Thompson Tristan Thompson a couple of times, 630 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: like a hard times, No, A couple of times all right, 631 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: like four or five during training camp. 632 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 633 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: Kobe Durant, who obviously made that huge play for the 634 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: Rams against Houston, the defensive back. Oh, okay, Kobe Durant, this. 635 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: Is screaming NBA problem when we were. 636 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: Out when we were out there two years ago. I 637 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: think it was. It was mean. Billy Hillgrove was still 638 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: the voice of the Steelers, and he called him Kobe 639 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: Bryant and Kevin Durant two separate times throughout the game. 640 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: That's great Kobe Durant. Though important, important interception in that 641 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: one for the Rams. Number nine, Uh, not impressive. Still 642 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: get a victory. Still find a way to get it done. 643 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: I think this is maybe about right for them. The 644 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. 645 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Knick stuff started to worry me a little bit. 646 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: That kind of like how Stroud took a step backwards 647 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: after his rookie year, or at least had a harder 648 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: go of it. I'm a little worried about Nicks. You 649 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: know that that was not a good performance by him. 650 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: But one game, let's let's tap the brakes a little. 651 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 2: And he's certainly got the head coach that you would wan. 652 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got great defense. 653 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: Get him back in the groove. Number eight. The Detroit 654 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: Lions dropping three spots after that loss to the Packers. 655 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little concerned that the windows closing, but 656 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: the window's still open. 657 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 2: I think the windows still open for them to be 658 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: a really good team. Yeah, maybe wins the division and 659 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: goes to the playoffs, but I certainly don't think that 660 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: window looks as open as it did for a Super Bowl. 661 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: No great, agreed, but it is also only Week one. 662 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a tough game too, a really tough 663 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: place to play. 664 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: Number seven, up one spot after their divisional victory over 665 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: the Giants. It's the Washington Commanders. 666 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 3: Defense played pretty well, but they didn't play a juggernaut. 667 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: Offensive line did a really nice job against Abdel Carter 668 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: and Lawrence more than I expected. Daniels looks like the 669 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 3: same guy, give or take. So that might be a 670 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: little high for me. But I'm not totally sold on 671 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: the team. But they had a nice performance. They ran 672 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: the ball well. 673 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: Number six into the playoffs for the last five years. 674 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: Starting off strong again the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're up 675 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: one spot this week. 676 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they'd overcome some things like they took Graham 677 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: Barton the center, put him at tackle, and you I 678 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: mean like they they moved some things around to get 679 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: that win. The credit. 680 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was an interesting one with Graham Barton. 681 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, he was a tackle of Duke that they 682 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: made a center and they. 683 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: Were played I think all five positions at some point 684 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: in his career at k but he was a tackle 685 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: towards the end of his duke career. They drafted him 686 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: as a center. But he has some nice UH position flexibility, 687 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: Like I remember Alan Fanica kicking out the tackle the time. 688 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: But a center kicking out the tackle, that's not something 689 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: that's not something you see every day. Although he's built 690 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: like a tackle. Yes, he is at the center position. 691 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: UH number five after they're lost to the Chargers, the 692 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, I think this is about fine. 693 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't put him in the upper tier. 694 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: No, maybe I would have him at six or seven. Five, 695 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: But I think this is about right. 696 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: I mean, they're probably favored if they played the Bucks 697 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: right now. 698 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: You know who they play, though, the Eagles. 699 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: Another Sunday Nights night, because. 700 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: I think Sunday Night is Minnesota and Chicago. 701 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: I want to say the schedule usually to like Thursday, but. 702 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: That's a man, that's a If the Chiefs start zero 703 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: and two, it is the four to thirty National Game 704 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: on Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium. 705 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: Important note, Okay, I wonder if they're favoriting in that game. 706 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: They they also have the Ravens coming to town in 707 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. Like, man, they've they've got a 708 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: they've got a bit of a bit of a start, 709 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: tough start here to their schedule. I'm trying to find 710 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: a Chiefs are one and a half point favorites. 711 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: I would think at home, slight. 712 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: Favorite at home in the Super Bowl rematch. 713 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: They don't lose back to back games very often. It's 714 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: funny you brought up the Ravens. We have not mentioned 715 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: them yet. They must be in the top three somewhere. 716 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: Of course, I would have been harsher on the Chiefs 717 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: losing to the Chargers and the Ravens losing to the Bills, though, Okay, yeah, 718 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: I mean I just think that Bill's Ravens game was 719 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: a tie. 720 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: To me. 721 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was a blast. And the Ravens 722 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: have this terrible Bill to lose close games. 723 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: You just love the Ravens. Man, I'm starting to pick 724 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: this up. I'm starting to pick up what you're putting 725 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: down here. 726 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: But I would not have dinged the Ravens heavy for 727 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: that loss. I mean, they gaither way a game a 728 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: little bit, and that's a trend under Harbaugh. 729 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: But they also played a true road game whereas and 730 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: the Chargers was a neutral game. 731 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: Good point that was in Brazil. 732 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, number four on this list. I know that my 733 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: co host Matt Williamson was high on this team coming 734 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: into the season. I'm sure he's even more on the bandwagon. 735 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: Now up two spots the Green Bay Packers. 736 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 3: They played like maybe they should be one. I mean, 737 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: I'm not sure anybody was more impressive against the high 738 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: quality opponents. 739 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: We'll do our inaugural Best of the West rankings tomorrow 740 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: where I give you my top ten teams in the NFL. 741 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this right now. They will be 742 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: higher than four. 743 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: I get it. That was a real impressive performance. 744 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: Number three Matt's favorite team, the Baltimore Ravens. 745 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 3: Sure, I get it. You have to put the Bells 746 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: ahead of them. 747 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to absolutely neck to begin with. That 748 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: was a one spot drop for Baltimore. You know, not 749 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: not the end of the world. Number two is the 750 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. 751 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: Fine, I got no problem with the Eagles ahead of them. 752 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: And then number one, the defending Super Bowl champion one 753 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: to zero the Philadelphia Eagles. 754 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, the top five or so need to be 755 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 3: the top five. 756 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, might have a slightly different order. 757 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, But I think to top five are all. 758 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 3: It was the Chief number five, Chiefs for number five, 759 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: I thought they were noticed. Tho. Those fives are better 760 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: than like the Bucks at six, you know. And I'm 761 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 3: not sure the Chiefs are in contention to be number one. 762 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, but they should be pretty high. 763 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: You know, there's some respect factor there too. 764 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: As much as these power rankings are a week to 765 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: week thing, they certainly deserve to get a little benefit 766 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: of the doubt, right. 767 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to go three and fourteen. 768 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: Correct, even if they lose the Eagles to start zero 769 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 2: to two, I still don't think it is. It's far 770 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: from the Skies falling in Kansas City. Let's get to 771 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: our final break. When we come back on the other side, 772 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: I do want to talk a little little bit more 773 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 2: with Matt about that Monday night football game last night. Yeah, 774 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: interesting what we saw from two young quarterbacks, a Vikings 775 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: performance that you know, really I think turned some heads 776 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: and you know, this team is dangerous once again this year. 777 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: Let's talk about all that as we close down the show. 778 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: On the other side, West Wheeler Matt Williams, and it 779 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers 780 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: Audio Network. 781 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 782 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: home of the Black. 783 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: And Goal, Steelers Nation Radio. Closing down the Drive here 784 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: on a Tuesday, and we will do so with some 785 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: thoughts on that first Monday night football game of the season, 786 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 2: of course, last night at Soldier Field in Chicago, an 787 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: early important NFC North clash between the Vikings and the Bears, 788 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: a back and forth one matt ends up twenty seven 789 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 2: to twenty four Minnesota as the Vikings score twenty one 790 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: fourth quarter points to win in Chicago. 791 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 3: Fun game, and I gotta get the Vikings credit. I mean, 792 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 3: they walked into a firestorm, you know, a Monday night, 793 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 3: lubed up Chicago crowd, super psyched about their head coach. 794 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: First overall, Pick is gonna be the best quarterback in 795 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 3: Bears history. And they started beating up on the Vikes 796 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 3: pretty good. And I thought McCarthy was in wighing over 797 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 3: his head and swimming, But I also had a lot 798 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: of faith in Flores and O'Connell to let's well, it's 799 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 3: a long time, long game, yeah, and the Bears could 800 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: have went up even heavier, you know, like they had 801 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: him on the ropes and they didn't fin even after 802 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 3: that pick six. I'm like this, his score should be 803 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 3: more lopsided than it is. But if I'm a Bears fan, 804 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: I think I still come away with a good taste 805 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: in my mouth. That Williams looked much better than he 806 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 3: did as a rookie. And yes, he's holding the ball 807 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 3: too long, but he was eluding people and making plays, 808 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 3: and the offense was much crisper, many more outlets for 809 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: him to get out of trouble, a lot of receivers 810 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 3: doing well. Defense looked okay, but I think the better 811 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: team eventually won. And it was a twelve I used 812 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 3: a boxing mat reference. It was a fifteen round fight, 813 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 3: and tide started turning by about round ten or so, 814 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: and You're like, okay, and Jefferson's getting more involved, McCarthy's 815 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 3: getting more you know, comfortable, and that's his first start 816 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: to I mean, Williams had played a whole year before McCarthy, 817 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 3: even though in the same draft class. And it's funny. 818 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: I was texting my buds, and you know, I got 819 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 3: several Michigan alum in my group, and it was like, man, 820 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: your guy is looking terrible and you know, making fun 821 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: of the Michigan stuff, and they're like, yeah, but he 822 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 3: usually finds a way and like, I know this isn't NCAA, 823 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 3: but that's kind of what he did at Michigan too, 824 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 3: Like it was always pretty sometimes you throw the ball 825 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 3: ten times, fifteen times, but it was all said and done. 826 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 3: He often finds a way to get the w you know, yeah, 827 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 3: and see, but it was, you know, he righted the ship. 828 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: He did, he did, and it was it was an 829 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: interesting kind of juxtaposition I think there because I think 830 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: at the start of the game, first half of the game, 831 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: people are like, wow, Caleb Williams looks like he's making plays, 832 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 2: looks like. 833 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 3: He's settled in, looks like the first overall PA, looks 834 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 3: like the first overall. Yeah, he's singing it. 835 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 2: You're talking about group chat with your buddies. I've got 836 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 2: one with with my buddies, and we've got a friend 837 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: in there who is big hockey guy, casual football fans 838 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 2: ok ok. And he was like everyone's been calling Caleb 839 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: Williams a bust, Like what's everyone talking about? He looks great, 840 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: he's got this rocket arm and we're like, he's right, 841 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 2: just give it. I said to him, I used your line. 842 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 2: I said, you know, like my my new co host 843 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 2: now Matt Williamson likes to say he likes to take sex. 844 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: He loves it, he loves to take sex. 845 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was better about it. I mean there was 846 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 3: times he was running around behind the line of scrimmage 847 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 3: is longer than I would like. 848 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: But I think for in this this can obviously be 849 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: too much of a simplification. But for Chicago new regime, 850 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: new era, it's about. This year is about figuring out 851 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: if Kayleb Williams is the guy or not. 852 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, do I have a coaching quarterback? Forget everything the 853 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 3: answers yes, then it's a successful. 854 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: Year, no matter how many games you won, no matter 855 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 2: how many games you lost. If the answer is yes, 856 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: it's a successful year. 857 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 3: And that's a valuable learning experience. 858 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: Last night, even if it's a definitive no, at least 859 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 2: you know, I don't think it's you don't call it 860 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: a successful year, but it's you need you need to 861 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: have a definitive answer. 862 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 3: Last night was a lean towards a lean towards yes. 863 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: Yea. 864 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: I was about to do the whole preface it with 865 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: a it's one data point out of seventeen, like, you know, 866 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: but I think you should be a little more encouraged 867 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 2: about Caleb Williams. Not to the level of maybe, like 868 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: we talked about with the Justin Fields, to continue to 869 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 2: talk about Chicago Bears quarterbacks here, but I think I 870 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: think it was an encouraging performance from from Caleb Williams. Yeah. 871 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: And if I'm a Bears fan, and if I'm wise 872 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: enough to look at it through the lens of do 873 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 3: we have a coach, do we have a quarterback? I 874 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 3: think the answer is yes. On Monday morning, tough loss, 875 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 3: you know, you probably should put that team away at home. 876 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 3: But the Vikings are better than you right now. 877 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 2: They didn't win what fourteen games last year? Yeah, yeah, 878 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: but you're right, you're kind of boxing analogy. There was 879 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: on the money, there was a couple of times the 880 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: Bears had them on the ropes and they just needed 881 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 2: to land one more body shot or one jab to 882 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 2: the jaw to knock them out. 883 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 3: And they just couldn't quite do it. 884 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: And that that you know, in the National Football League, 885 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 2: the game of inches. 886 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 3: You let these guys stick around. 887 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 2: A team like the Vikings that you got to bury 888 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 2: them when you can. Absolutely, you have to bury everybody 889 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 2: when you can, but especially those type of teams that 890 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: are winning double digit games going to the playoffs. Knows what. 891 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 2: Minnesota very good in one score games last year. 892 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 3: I bet the Jets are looking the same way, like 893 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 3: we couldn't put the Steelers away. 894 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah right right, yeah, we're up nine late in the 895 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 2: second quarter, opportunity, we're certainly on the ropes, and then 896 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: we give them the ball back on special teams, flip 897 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 2: the field, make it easy. 898 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 3: For him to Aaron Rodgers. 899 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: To Eric bleeping Rogers, what are we doing? You know, hey, 900 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 2: he is still even at age forty one, A bad man, 901 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers. Matt good stuff today. I enjoyed this 902 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 2: show today thought we uh, let's we covered a bunch 903 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 2: of different bases and I enjoyed that. And we will 904 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 2: certainly do it again tomorrow for our video producer TV 905 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: and for the best co host in the business, the 906 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 2: Mario Lemieux of NFL Broadcasting in this town. If I will, 907 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, unless Yueler, take care everybody, We'll talk to 908 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: you tomorrow. As always, you know where to find us 909 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 2: it's on your twenty four seven home of the Black 910 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 2: and Gold at Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio 911 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 2: Network