1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I've never heard someone say a bad word 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: about Charles Davis, which, by the way, I'm always a 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: little skeptical guys like that, right, Like, I know the 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: bad things people can say about me, and they're probably true, 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: But how can you be how can you live this 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: long and nobody says a bad thing about the guy? 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Charles Davis does a terrific job for CBS Sports for 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: NFL Network. He is all over the draft. Charles, It's 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Ross great to talk with you as always, buddy. Hey, 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: Ross is good to talk with you as always as well. 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: And trust me on this, not a bad word. It's 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: awfully kind of you to say. You just haven't been 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: hanging out in the right place, all right, So Charles 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: and all sincerity, you know, we can talk here. There's 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: nobody listening. What is like if somebody had to say 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: something negative about you, like if I asked your wife 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: like or even yourself, like, what are your high school buddies? 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: What would be the one thing they would say? You know, Charles, awesome, 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: but this or that. By the way, I met one 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: of your high school buddies one time who told me 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: you were by far the greatest high school athlete from 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: your hometown. Oh is it Dave Ryan? Maybe? Wow? You 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: know you know Ryano. Yes, he told me you were 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: by far the best high school athlete ever from where 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: you guys are from an upstatement anyway, what's the what's 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: the what's the one? Tiny? Little Charles Davis flaw. Oh, 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that. It's tiny, And we could go 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: for a while, but I'll give you the one. I 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: can be a little negative, you know. I can go 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: to that. I can go to the word no a 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: lot quicker than I should. You know, Like someone will say, hey, 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: why don't we do it? Nah, I don't want to 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: do that, and I didn't even thought about it. I 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: just immediately right to know, hey, maybe we should consider Nah, 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: we shouldn't do that. And in retrospect, after a little 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: bit of time, I might be the one that bounces 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: through and goes, hey, why don't we do such it? 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: And they're like, we just said we should do that. 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know. If I said I want to 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: make it my idea, I don't know what it is. 42 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just defensive that way, but I can be 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: that way. I can be a little bit on the 44 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: negative side, and I'm always on the lookout ross for 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: I even know how to say it the right way 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: being wronged? Does that make sense? And I'm not one 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: of those who is just automatically, hey, you're doing me wrong. 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not confronting people or whatever. I'm just 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: making sure, hell, okay, is this the right thing? And 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: then half the time I walk away going what was 51 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: I doing? Why? Why am I even in that type 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: of a space. So those are a few to get 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: us started. And I feel like I should go to 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: a couch right now, and you have on a cardigan, 55 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: have a pipe, and you should be nodding while you're 56 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: writing down your grocery list and not listening to a 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: word I'm saying. You know what's funny. By the way, 58 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: that's actually a great question to ask draft prospects on 59 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: those zooms, like what's the worst part about you? Mine 60 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: is one of mine is I have no patience? Like 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: we went skiing a couple of weeks ago and there 62 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: was a line. It was probably like a five minute line. 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't that bad, And I said to my brother 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: in law, I know that this isn't a big deal. 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: And I know that this shouldn't bother me, but I 66 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: am pissed off right now. I hate this line. I 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: hate it. I want to be on the lift and 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: I want to ski down right now. I don't want 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: to be in this line. Lines are for losers. He's like, 70 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: just it's good. Did you acknowledge that deep breaths? Deep 71 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: breath so we all have good? Well, I will say 72 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: this before you go on. That's an excellent question. And 73 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: I wonder if we would put that to the prospect's 74 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: mother that plopped down in front of the zoom and 75 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: said she would be answering the questions for her son. 76 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Did you see that story? No, yeah, I just saw it. 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: I think I saw it last night. I'm not sure 78 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: who broke it, who had it, and I don't want 79 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: to not give them credit, But I also don't want 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: to credit the wrong person because in that business, as 81 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, you know who got to that story first, 82 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: making sure that the proper people are credited. I did 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: read this that a team reported that when they went 84 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: to have the zoom with the prospect, mom sat down 85 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: in the chair and said that she would be answering 86 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: the questions for her son. Wow. So we hear about helicopters. 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: We hear about this in business world, where the parents 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: show up at work to negotiate their kids raise, to 89 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: go over their performance reviews. We hear about all these things. 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: This is you know, look, this is a new world 91 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: with zooms and all that, so why not. But we've 92 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: had we've had parents being involved in stuff before. As 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: a parent myself, I've been, you know, having to meet 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: with teacher, having to meet with teachers and coaches. I 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: hope I've done it the right way. But we hear 96 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: about these stories all the time. But this one, this 97 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: is new. Talking with Charles Davis, NFL Network analyst, CBS 98 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: Sports analyst, He's all over the draft always every year. 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: You know, we've totally moved on, Charles, from the first 100 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: two picks. All anybody cares about number three. Probably gonna 101 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: ask you, like, are you sold on Zach Wilson at two? 102 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: Are you bought in on what the Jets are doing? 103 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: I am, and I bought more so because I bought 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: it on Zach Wilson. So I guess the best way 105 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: to answer at Ross's whoever is it too? And if 106 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: they wanted Zach Wilson, I would be bought in on them. 107 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: I really think that when you put him in total 108 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: and you go through everything that you've seen, I see 109 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: a toughness to this kid that maybe he doesn't get 110 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: credit for having played through injuries for a couple of 111 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: seasons thumb, shoulder, things that are really going to affect 112 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: a quarterback. He beat out a popular senior quarterback, Tanner Mango, 113 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: as a freshman to win the job, and that's not 114 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: easily done, you know, because people like to gravitate towards 115 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: the older players, especially at the position like quarterback. And 116 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: then to see him go all in, get healthy and 117 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: come back this year and half the year that he 118 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: had and we can talk schedule, we can talk this, 119 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: we can talk that. I'm not having it. I think 120 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: the kid is the legit item. I like what I 121 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: see from him. I'm not as concerned about the size 122 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: as some people are. I think he'll be fine going forward. 123 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: We've seen smaller quarterbacks make it and make it big. 124 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm bought in with him because I think the Jets 125 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: have a true plan going forward on how they're going 126 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: to do things. So I know the answer to this question, Charles, 127 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: because you and I talked recently on my podcast, But 128 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: I want people to hear from you. You know, we 129 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: all know Trevor Lawrence is the guy, but you recently 130 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: wrote a story for NFL dot com where you had 131 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: the seventeen guys you would pound the table for. Which 132 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: is the expression they use when coaches or GM say 133 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: this guy is the man your quarterback? You say, this 134 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: guy excites me the most when I think about seeing 135 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: how it all progresses. It's Trey Lance from FCS North County. 136 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: Why is he the quarterback that excites you the most? 137 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: He's the full combo of everything you're looking for. Ross, size, 138 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, speed, got the biggest arm in the draft. 139 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: Now what that means to everyone, I don't know. Is 140 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: that like a Nolan Ryan fastball that he couldn't control 141 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: early his career or is it the Nolan Ryan fastball later? 142 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's all those things that go into it. 143 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: But all I know is this. The kid is seventeen 144 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: and sixteen and Ozero and North Dakota State has been 145 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: good for a long time and they've won championships with 146 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: Easton Stick with Carson Wentz with Rock Jensen. Who's one 147 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: people might not remember who kept Carson wentz on the bench, 148 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: so they know how to win. But he had to 149 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: come up the same way and my com for him 150 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: as Josh Allen. He and Josh were both doubted coming 151 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: out of high school. Both of them ended up at 152 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: schools off the beaten path. Both of them would you know, 153 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: have been plagued with the I don't know how accurate 154 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: he is. I don't know if he plays against good competition, 155 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: and we've seen how Josh is pretty rest I hear 156 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: about the brain, the football IQ of Trey Lance. He's 157 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: the jim Rat that you want, and when I see 158 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: him put it all together, I'm excited about watching this progress. 159 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: And that's why if I'm San Francisco at three, I'm 160 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: taking a good hard look at him, fields and mac 161 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: Jones before I make that final decision, especially if I'm 162 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: keeping Jimmy Garoppolo around. If I've got Garoppolo sitting there 163 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: and I can develop Lance a little bit, because I'll 164 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: just leave it with this ross. Normally, when I draft 165 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback in the top five, he's starting for me 166 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: from day one normally, but with a kid coming out 167 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: of you know, one double a only one game last year, 168 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: it wouldn't hurt at all. He had someone in front 169 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: of him for a little while. But if he gets 170 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: drapped in the top five, it's not gonna last long. 171 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: You not know that the person signing the checks is 172 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: coming to the office going yo, when's he gonna play. 173 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: That's how it works when you had young quarterbacks. So 174 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: it sounds like Charles. I don't want to put words 175 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: in your mouth, but if the Niners pass him at three, 176 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like you think the Falcon should take him 177 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: at four. I think he'd be ideal. To me, it's 178 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: the perfect fit at four because Matt Ryan's going to play. 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: And you were talking, you know, and you've made made 180 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: some very nice statements about me that I absolutely cherish 181 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: Ross And I'm not saying that with tongue in cheek. 182 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,359 Speaker 1: It means a lot. And you know, for us as guys, 183 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: dropping our veneer sometimes gets a little difficult. But I 184 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: just want you to know it really means a lot 185 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: for you to me about what you said. But think 186 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: about Matt Ryan. Have we ever have we met a 187 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: quarterback in recent years? That's his giving of himself as 188 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: his pure of heart, a good teammate like a Matt Ryan. 189 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: So even if Matt Ryan's upset that you draft a 190 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: quarterback and every quarterback that's the starter gets mad if 191 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: you draft another quarterback, even in the seventh round. He's 192 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna take care of this young man. Okay, he's going 193 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: to show him the right example. He's gonna teach him 194 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: all those things. He's gonna tell him. Look, you need 195 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: to observe and watch. I'm not gonna hand it to you. 196 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: But he's also not going to shy away from 's 197 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: extra film sessions, all of those things. What a great 198 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: way to break in, plus an offense that is already, 199 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: you know, been productive and somewhat ready to roll. So 200 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: I would love that fit for him if he were 201 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: to go to Atlanta and have a year of Matt Ryan, 202 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: because I think after that Atlanta would be ready to 203 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: really start the Arthur Smith regime. And maybe Matt Ryan's 204 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: looking for a place with a contender to finish out 205 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: his career. We'll see, I don't know. All right, wrapping 206 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: up here with Charles Davis from NFL Network, All right, 207 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: let's play that out then, Charles. Let's say the Falcons 208 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,359 Speaker 1: do that and take Trey Lance at four. Then Cincinnati 209 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: has their pick of Jamar Chase Penny Soul or Kyle Pitts, 210 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: who a lot of people feel like is the best 211 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: player in the draft. Let's say you are Duke Tobin 212 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: or you are a player for the Bengals, whatever, yep, 213 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: which one of those three guys are you pounding the 214 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: table for? If the Bengals have all the options, all 215 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: the non quarterback options at five, well, I'm old school, 216 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: so I'd want to go ahead and immediately say tackle 217 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: to protect, to protect Joe Burrow and Anthony Munios is 218 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: already signed off on that. But I look at this 219 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: draft and I think that I can come back in 220 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: the top of the second round and get a pretty 221 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: darn good tackle. Again. I don't know if I'm passing 222 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: on Kyle Pitts tight ends or young quarterbacks best friends. 223 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: They absolutely love them. They're right in their sight lines, 224 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: and throws are easy. I'm doing the Joey Tribani air 225 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: quotes because nothing's easy in the NFL. But those are 226 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: the ones that get out of your hands. Quicker get 227 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: to the guide, he turns it up field, and Pitts 228 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: is a kind of guy who makes big plays for you. 229 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: So it's going to be very difficult for me to 230 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: pass on him, although I have to say ross. Every 231 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: year we go into this and we always have the 232 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: buzzwords and the buzz phrases, and I can speak them 233 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: as well as anyone. Right, you can speak football, I 234 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: can speak football, and sometimes we drive ourselves crazy doing it. 235 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: But the word this year to me is generational. I 236 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I'm hearing generational used way 237 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: more than I've heard in the past. Trevor Lawrence is 238 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: one of those generational quarterbacks. Kyle Pitts is a generational talent, 239 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: and to me, what that means is he's really good 240 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: and maybe the best one in the draft. You should 241 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: go get him. We'll find out if they're generational based 242 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: on their career. And I'm not saying it as a negative, 243 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: even though you, as I told you, I can get 244 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: that way. It's just funny how we indoctrinate all those 245 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: things and they become part of the lexicon. We used 246 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: to see a guy through the ball really well, Now 247 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: we say as arm talent. I mean, it's just just 248 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: out works well. And the best part about the generational 249 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: thing is two things. Number One, it reminds me, what's 250 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: that what movie is that where the guy says, I 251 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: don't think that word means what you think it means. 252 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: Princess Bride. Maybe Princess Bride. I think that word means 253 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: what you think it means. And that's number one and 254 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: number two generational. We literally had back to back generational 255 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: pass rushers, Nick Bosa the one year and then Chase 256 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Young the next year. I don't think you know what 257 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: generational means. Charles Davis, the nicest guy in the world 258 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: and a terrific analyst. Thank you so much man, Really 259 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Ross. Always a pleasure to spend time with you. 260 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I continued success and look forward 261 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: to seeing in person again real soon. Absolutely cannot wait. 262 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: There he is Charles Davis. Thanks for listening to The 263 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 264 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to 265 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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You 283 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: gotta tune in to Addam on Bleacher Reports, BR Gridiron 284 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: Draft Night Live across the br app BR Gridiron Twitter 285 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: and YouTube channels starting Thursday, April twenty ninth at eight 286 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: pm Eastern. Connor Rogers a Keep to Leave, Reggie Wayne, 287 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: and Robert Griffin the Third will also be part of it. 288 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: Left Go, What's up? Man? You know, it's not often 289 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: I get compared to a van, but when I do, 290 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: I hope it's from Hilt Stocker. First of all, you're 291 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: how awesome his voice is you how smooth it is. 292 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: It's like it's like a Mercedes benz Van. I know 293 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: I've asked just before, Adam, how'd you get your voice 294 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: like that? It wasn't like your voice is not like 295 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: that when you were sixteen. My voice is awful right 296 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: now because I am fighting something in my sinuses that 297 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is. Last time I 298 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: came on here, Dan Patrick absolutely sunned me and he 299 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: brought out the pipes. I think I've talked about this before. 300 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: I hated my voice for a long time. Ross I 301 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: went to Syracuse Tarico Costas, It's like beautiful, and then 302 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: I come in and people say I sound like a 303 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: forty year old divorcee and so like it's like rough 304 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: like I've been. I've been like inhaling cigars and so 305 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: I used to hate my voice, but to get compliments 306 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: from you is refreshing. I think it's glorious. I think 307 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: it's like a smooth, sultry voice. Although poly just said 308 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: he thinks it sounds like Demi Moore. Yeah, oh, in 309 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: a good way. Have you ever heard that before? It 310 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: is a little they're a little Demi Moore there, I've 311 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: never heard that. I'm gonna I'm gonna go and just 312 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: watch YouTube clips of Demi Moore. Shack likes my voice too, 313 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: if you ever check out his Instagram. He thinks I 314 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: have a really good white guy voice, like when I 315 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: really pile up the white guy voice. So if I'm like, 316 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: if I'm like, well, hello, good to see you, he 317 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: thinks it's like how all white men should all right, 318 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: So here's the question about Shack. Is he the same 319 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: guy off the air? Because you and I both know 320 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: some people exact same guy on the air and off 321 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: the air, like me, some people very very different watch 322 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: category Shack in Shack doesn't have an opportunity to not 323 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: be Shack because everywhere he walks in, everyone's like, oh, Shack. 324 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: And so what I've learned through Shack, I'm gonna do 325 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of a deep dive. Military background. Dad, 326 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: super super disciplinarian, moved all over the country, and he 327 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: was always as you can imagine, this enormous kid. And 328 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: so he just began watching TV and seeing comedy and 329 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, it's a lot easier to meet people 330 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: if I'm just hilarious all the time, and so with Shack, 331 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: you just don't know what you're gonna get. Ross, Like 332 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: you come off set and he's in the back Djan 333 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: and he's like and he's like, I know, I know 334 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: lofco likes this. All white people like this and like 335 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: either that or he's doing like food reviews or he's 336 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: like throw grapes in my mouth while I'm sleeping, Like 337 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: it never turns off. It's the biggest kid I've ever met, 338 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: but it's always how can my team succeed? Man? So 339 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: it's he's he is him all the time, doesn't change. 340 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: Everybody I know that knows him loves him and says 341 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: he's like the legit awesomest guy. Love the year it. 342 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of Shack, his former team Lakers, they got Anthony 343 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: Davis back last night. That's like the big news in 344 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: the NBA last night. Do you think with Davis back, 345 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: when they get Lebron back, you still think they got 346 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: a pretty good chance to do this again? You know, 347 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis two attend four points. That's not back for 348 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. But I was if the Lakers have Anthony 349 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: Davis and Lebron and they are healthy and it is 350 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs, they are the favorite to win the championship 351 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: because we've seen this story too many times, you know. 352 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: And also I look around the rest of the league 353 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: and I'm seeing a lot of issues everywhere else. Philadelphia, 354 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: I go, Okay, Tobias Harris, Ben Simmons and the playoffs 355 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: kind of scary. Utah, no one's gonna believe it until 356 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: they see it. Phoenix is a little bit too early 357 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: in the process. Can Deandreaton really guard Anthony Davis? The Clippers, 358 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: no one's believing it because they haven't done in the playoffs. 359 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: Denver's injured, Brooklyn they're never playing together. They've been together 360 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: for seven games. And Milwaukee, I feel like, is in 361 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: the same boat as Utah and the Clippers where we're going. 362 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: We've seen you lose in the playoffs before. So I 363 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: think if Lebron and Anthony Davis are healthy, they are 364 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: the favorites. And the big question is if because Anthony 365 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 1: Davis didn't look that healthy last night, all right, So 366 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: what if all of the nets are healthy? What if 367 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: they have the Big Three? Oh yeah, that's scary because 368 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: they're not. If they have hardened, Durant and Kyrie all healthy, 369 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: all playing they're not the favorite. So the Lakers are 370 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: the favorites in the West. The Nets would be the 371 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: favorite in the East. The reason that I give it 372 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: to the West is I'm not someone that likes to 373 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: bet against Lebron a lot, especially because they have the 374 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: experience of getting there. To me, the Nets are, you know, 375 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: in the NFL playoffs when all of a sudden, they 376 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: don't call pass interference as much and they let you 377 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: kind of get a little bit more physical, and Bill 378 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: Belichick just knows exactly what to do. In the NBA, 379 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: it turns into a half court game, and it's not 380 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: about Utah's passing and accuracy and all that, it's can 381 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: you score by yourself? And Brooklyn's ability to score with Harden, 382 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 1: Kyrie and KD is unmatched. I would still give a 383 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: slight edge to the Lakers because they have some continuity. 384 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: But that is the finals that I'm I'm rooting for 385 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: because I all the storylines k D undefeated against the 386 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: Lebronic No No. No. Two and one against Lebron because 387 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: of the thunder time Kyrie taking on Lebron again. If 388 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: James Harden wins a championship, ross like James Harden I 389 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: think I may have said this before. If James Harden 390 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: wins a championship, it's kind of like if Matt Stafford 391 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: wins a championship with the Rams, where it's like, man, 392 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: he's like a top five passing yards guy, Like all 393 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, so much is validated. I just love 394 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: the storylines of that matchup, all right, So first of all, 395 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: that is not our preferred matchup. You grew up outside 396 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia. We want the Sixers to beat the Net. 397 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: So I gotta say I really dislike the Nets. I 398 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: don't like any aspect of how they were put together. 399 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: I don't think any of those guys are likable. I mean, Kyrie, 400 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: I won't even go there. Durant is not really likable 401 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: because of what he did going to Golden State and everything, 402 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: and Harden how he got out Houston. I want the 403 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: Sixers to beat the Nets so bad I can taste it. 404 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: I would say, other than football, the Sixers beating the 405 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: Nets this year is maybe one of the most important 406 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: sports events for me personally, and like the last ten years, 407 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: because I'm a Sixers fan. The Sixers drafted and beat 408 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: they drafted Simmons. I've been waiting for this, and I 409 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: just don't like anything about the Nets. I don't like 410 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: the super team, I like how they brought these guys together. 411 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't like the players themselves. Am I Is that 412 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: my Sixers bias? Or do you think a lot of 413 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: people dislike the Nets? As a former offensive lineman that 414 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: just waxed poetic about girls softball not liking the Nets 415 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 1: as the most predictable take I've ever heard, there is 416 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: a generational divide about the Brooklyn Nets. People over a 417 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: certain age that love Barry Sanders because he tossed the 418 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: ball the ref after a play hate the Brooklyn Nets. 419 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: People in my generation and a little bit younger get it. 420 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: And here's the reason why. Imagine you are a twenty 421 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: eight year old that grew up listening to Dan Patrick, 422 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: listening to Sports Center and hearing them go, you know 423 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: why Michael Jordan's the goat because he's got six rings. 424 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: You know why he's better than him because he has 425 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: more rings than him. We have baked it into these 426 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: young guys brains that the only way they can be 427 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: treated as champions is as they went on the biggest stage. 428 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: So for Kevin Durant to go and do what he did. 429 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: He was just fulfilling the prophecy that people like Dan 430 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: Patrick were setting for him. I think that I am 431 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: someone that tries to understand Kyrie. I am not someone 432 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: that thinks that he I think everybody looks at the 433 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: flat Earth comments and they go, how could you listen 434 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: to anything? Since then? I think he has a lot 435 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: of very wise things to say. I think he talked 436 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: recently about language and the N word, and I thought 437 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: it was very enlightening. I think that he has been 438 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: a leader in terms of the Black Lives Matter movement 439 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of things in the bubble. I think 440 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of thought in which he does. I 441 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: think James Harden, the way he exited is not very 442 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: well liked by a lot of people. I agree with that. 443 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: At the same point, I am someone that believes in 444 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: the player in powerment era. I am also someone that, 445 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: like if I was down there in Houston, I don't 446 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: besmirch Blake Griffin wanting to leave Detroit because he signed 447 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: a five year deal with the Clippers and then in 448 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: year one got traded to Detroit. Like, why would I 449 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: want him to want to play there? That's crazy? So 450 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: I look at it as I'm just trying to enjoy 451 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: the journey of these guys and they've come together. And 452 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: one of my favorite experiences was a seventy two and 453 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: nine Warriors team. I like to watch things I've never 454 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: seen before. I do like the Brooklyn Nets and what 455 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: they're doing right now because I like watching players when 456 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: they are happy. Watching James Harden when he is happy 457 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: has been one of my most favorite basketball experiences this season. 458 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: Leading the MBA in assist, doing everything he needs to do. 459 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: It's been very enjoyable. So I do counter you, but 460 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: I would love to see the six Ers beat the Nets. 461 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: I really would. Who's the MVP? Nicola Yokich Chaos. He's 462 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: top ten in points, in rebounds, in assists. They are 463 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: fourth in the West. They are eighteen games over five hundred. 464 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: The six Ers are nineteen games over five hundred. He 465 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: loses Jamal Murray, they keep it rolling. They've won four 466 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: in a row since Jamal Murray goes out, and yeah, 467 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: Joel Embiid has missed a number of games, and they 468 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: played pretty well in those games. I would go Yokich one, 469 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: I would go Mbid two. I would go it would 470 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: have been Harden for a little bit. I would go 471 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Steph Curry three, just because what we're seeing out of 472 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: Steph Curry is incredible to be able. I believe he's 473 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: had six games of ten or more threes this year, 474 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: and no one that is active right now has had five, 475 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: has had more than five in their entire career. So 476 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: I would put him three. Last question, why are you 477 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: so down on the birds? Man? Like your your tweets 478 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: are bumming me out. You're so down on the birds? Okay? 479 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Why are you sold out? Telling him he's just starting? 480 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: Give him a chance. Rock paper scissors, Rock paper scissors. 481 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: That's how he's ross. How am I supposed to listen 482 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: to this man at a press conference who's out there 483 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: his first press conference? Because here's my reason. Okay, when 484 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: the Eagles were looking for a head coach, Ross Tucker, 485 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: there was a lot of guys out there that were 486 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: super qualified, But here they hire Nick Sirianni. And why 487 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: did they hire him? Because he wowed them in the 488 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: interview process. And the only thing that I can see 489 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: to get the experience of what Jeff and Howie Roseman 490 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: saw are the press conferences. And so if he was 491 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: wild and then he gets press conferences in which he 492 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: says we do rocks, paper scissors, or the clip that 493 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: I posted that went super viral and I was not 494 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: expecting that in which he said that I don't even 495 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: know it was rambling into nothing. And I have former 496 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Eagles texting me saying that we should be concerned. Ross. 497 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 1: I'm asking you, other than blind faith, where are you 498 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: getting any confidence from Nick Siria. I like the energy 499 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: and the passion. I like that he's energetic. Here's the thing, 500 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: here's what matters, Adam. He's got to be like this 501 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: with the players, like I need to know. I'll be interested, 502 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, I do their preseason games on TV. I'll 503 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: be interested to talk with him and see how genuine 504 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: it is. I think it is. Like I see him 505 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: on enough things now, I think it is genuine. And 506 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: as long as you're that guy all the time, I 507 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: think the players will like it. But you gotta be 508 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: that guy all the time. You gotta be off. You 509 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: know what I wanted. I wanted a coach that's really 510 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: good at play calling and play development. I want somebody 511 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: that's so much smarter than everybody else that they can develop. Also, 512 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: like this isn't college football constant encouragement, super positivity. When 513 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: you've lost three games in a row, you've been in 514 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: a locker room, is that message really gonna resonate guys? 515 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: We're so close, We're so close. Come on, let's get 516 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: some competition. They're gonna tune him out so fat. Look, 517 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: I want it to work. I want Jalen Hurts to 518 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: be great. Shoot draft Jalen Wattle at twelve, Jalen Hurts, 519 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: Jalen Rager, Jalen Wattle, Jalen's everywhere, It'll be great. I 520 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: just think I just think that it sounds like some 521 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: high school pep talk stuff that I just don't think 522 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: resonates with grown men, because it's a grown man team 523 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: that's roster. Yeah. I guess we're gonna find out. Check 524 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: him out on social Adam leftco and again tune in 525 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: Company Report Dan as you hear aw, he's talking. He's 526 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: a company man who's on that Eagles payroll. Baby, I 527 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: love that. No, that's a good dude right there now. 528 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm giving him the Bennett for the doubt. I am 529 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: giving him the Bennett for the doubt. I said to you, 530 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: I want to see what he's like with me one 531 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: on one. You know, when I'm talking with him like that, 532 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: I want to see how genuine authentic he is. Adam 533 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: always genuine, authentic, b our Gridiron, Twitter, YouTube, just follow 534 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: him on social he'll post what he's doing on Draft 535 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: night with keep to leave everybody. Thank you, Adam. Hey, 536 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: I'm the Mercedes benz Vans of humans. Pleasure to be here. 537 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: I love that. That could be like a voicemail answer. 538 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: Right there is they Hi, You've called that him left? 539 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 1: Go and boy, aren't you glad you did? I mean, 540 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: his voice is awesome. Thanks for listening to The Dan 541 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 542 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 543 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 544 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 545 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: the Peacock Out. All right, so on the guest line, 546 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: we've got Anthony Gonzales. Obviously a lot of you remember him. 547 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: Started Ohio State, first round picked with the Colts, played 548 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: in the league for a while. Now he's a congressman 549 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: from his native Ohio, and he is introducing an NIL bill, 550 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: national legislation for name, Image and Likeness. Anthony or I 551 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: see I want Anthony Congressman Gonzales. It's Ross Tucker. Thank 552 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: you so much for coming on the show. Thank you 553 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: for having me. Anthony is perfectly fine. I was just 554 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: gonna ask. I was just gonna ask. Now they're givna 555 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: be the head nod. So do you get a you know, 556 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: you don't get offended when people don't call you congressman. No, 557 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm just there's a lot worse things people call me, 558 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: So I'm fine with anything. But no, my first name 559 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: is is preferred. I think it's too formal. I mean, 560 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: we're just we're representatives. We shouldn't be formalized like that 561 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion. All right, I like that, Anthony, because 562 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you. I was curious if when 563 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 1: you're around other congressmen, if it's like the medical scene 564 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: in spies like us, where you're like congressman, congressman, congressman, congressman, congressman, 565 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: is it like that or not at all? Thank god, 566 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: it's not. This place is broken in a million ways, 567 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: but not quite like that. Okay, good, all right, speaking 568 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: up broken Anthony. A lot of people feel like the 569 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: college football model as it relates as two athletes has 570 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: been broken for quite some time, and but actually doing 571 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: something about it. So I read a little bit about it. 572 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: I know you're all over this. I'm pretty familiar with name, 573 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: image and likeness, but I want you to actually explain 574 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: the bill that you are trying to get past. What 575 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: does it really say? So it does a handful of things. 576 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: Our goal is to extend the economic right, which I 577 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: think is a natural right. Every single person in this 578 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: country has it except for the college athlete as far 579 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: as I know. Maybe some people don't, but as far 580 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: as I know, it's just college athletes excluded. So we're 581 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: going to extend that right. But we're going to do 582 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: it in a way that preserves college sports. So what 583 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: does that mean. That means having restrictions on recruitment. So 584 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, you should have boosters in 585 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: high schools telling kids are going to pay him a 586 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: whole bunch of money to come to X y Z school. 587 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: So there'll be penalties that prevent that from happening. But 588 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: also on the same side of that, we're going to 589 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: have some parody in there to make sure that the 590 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: kids are getting the same opportunities at some of the 591 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: universities do and just preserve the system as we know it, 592 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: and I think it'll work for everybody. I think it'll 593 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: work for college football, but I think it'll work for 594 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: My wife is a college swimmer. I think it would 595 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: help her. She'd be able to teach swim lessons now. 596 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: So just the basic premises, let's do one national standard, 597 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: not fifty states with different standards, which is what we 598 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: have right now. But let's have one national standard. Let's 599 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: preserve recruitment, let's preserve the system. It's a great system, 600 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: and move forward well. So the one standard nationally is 601 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: absolutely the way to go. I would like to think 602 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: that the NCAA is back you and support that part 603 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: of it, because if it's state by state, that's an 604 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: absolute mess. I guess I don't understand it any is 605 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: how do you prevent the recruiting part of it? Like, 606 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: how do you prevent Ohio State or Alabama or whoever 607 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: saying to a seventeen year old sixteen year old, hey, 608 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: part of the scholarship offer is will also guarantee you 609 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars a year, name, image, and likeness. 610 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't understand how you combat that. Well, you may 611 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: go a federal crime. So I mean there's going to 612 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: be it would be a federal crime to do exactly 613 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: what you just said, which means that the person could 614 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: be criminally or civilly liable. The individual and the university 615 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: could be on the hook for that if it's directly 616 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: tied to the university. So I think you know, the 617 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: thing I keep saying is let's extend the right and 618 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: if people abuse it in the recruitment process, then you 619 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: got to bring the hammer down on them. There has 620 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: to be real teeth. There can't just be a small penalty. 621 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: And so we're gonna have that in our bill as well. 622 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: But look, I mean, it's like anything. There's gonna be 623 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: people who are going to try to work around that, 624 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be people who try to game the system. 625 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: So the best we can do is be very clear 626 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: on what's legal and what's illegal and make sure that 627 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: there's penalties in place. So, okay, so you have some 628 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: penalty in place if they use the NIL, if they 629 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: have an NIL guarantee, or if they have na NIL 630 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: enticement when their recruits. You know this something I talked 631 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: to I have a recruiting business, Go big recruiting. So 632 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of college coaches about this. 633 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: The question is what will the level of involvement be 634 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: for the colleges themselves and the coaching staff or are 635 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: they completely out of it? You know? Am I just 636 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,239 Speaker 1: saying to a Penn State player or whatever I live 637 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Am I just saying, hey, I'll give you 638 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: five thousand bucks to tweet this? Or am I going 639 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: through the program? So someone's monitoring it, so you have 640 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: to go through the program. I mean that's the general idea. 641 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: And one other thing Worth mentioned and the coaches and 642 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: the universities, they will not be providing these opportunities. Now, 643 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: what I suspect will happen and I hope happens, is 644 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: they'll feel the responsibility to make sure that the kids 645 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: are doing legitimate opportunities and you have help with things 646 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: like paying taxes. I mean, when we were in college, 647 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: I never paid We didn't pay taxes because we didn't 648 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: have this stuff. So they're going to have to all 649 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden mature on some of these just sort 650 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: of basic adult activities like paying taxes and managing money. 651 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: I hope the universities will help with that. But with 652 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: respect of providing nil opportunities that would be illegal under 653 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: our bill. This is going to be the kids and 654 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: their agents or representatives managing that on their own, with 655 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: the Insta of LA providing some oversight, and then Congress 656 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: stepping in if there's a violation of the law itself. 657 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: Talking with Congressman Anthony Gonzalez from Ohio, the former cults 658 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: in Ohio state wide receiver. Okay, so they will have 659 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: agents or representatives. That was gonna be one of my questions. 660 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: Is there a limit or is it Sky's the limit? 661 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: Sky's the limit? I mean I I any limit that 662 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: we put in place would feel arbitrary to me. So 663 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's let's open up the right, let's allow 664 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: for it, and you know, I think it'll be managed correctly. 665 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: I just fundamentally believe that these kids, if they have 666 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: the right representation and inside of sort of the support 667 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: bubble that exists at a major college, a major university, 668 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: that they'll be able to handle it. I just believe that. 669 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: But I guess I don't understand, Anthony, how you stop 670 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: and maybe you're not supposed to. How you said again 671 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: you went to Ohio States. Why I'm using the example 672 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: there's a car dealership in oh in Columbus, and they 673 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: give every guy it's a big booster he loves Ohio 674 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: State football. He gives every guy fifty grand a year 675 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: to sign autographs one day, even though he's not really 676 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: getting a return on the investment. It's not really a 677 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: business this proposition for the guy, it's just boosterism. Is 678 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: that totally legal and fine? Or is that a problem? No, 679 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: that would be a problem. So again it's it would 680 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: depend on the individual circumstance, right, But anything that looks 681 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: like inducements and sort of not fair market value which 682 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: you're describing, that would run a file. But if it's 683 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: what would you know, be termed sort of a legitimate 684 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: enterprise where it's, hey, you know you're going to do 685 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: this radio show every week for ten weeks and we're 686 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 1: going to pay you X dollars per radio show. Um. 687 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: You know that's that would be in the legitimate category. Um, 688 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: And you know, then they could go forward with that. 689 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: The other thing I'll say is you know where where 690 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: you draw that line? I think is probably the most 691 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: interesting question. Um. And admittedly you know you can't. I 692 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: don't believe we can draw it in Congress. So what 693 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: we're going to do is just provide the right We're 694 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: going to create create a commission that studies it for 695 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: two years and then reports back to Congress saying, hey, 696 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: here are the tweets you need to make. Here's some 697 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: of the changes. In the meantime, the inside of land, 698 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: the institutions themselves will manage the answers to the questions 699 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: that you're asking about. You know, what's a legitimate endorsement 700 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: opportunity verse versus what's just pure pay to play. That'll 701 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: be legislated by them and then report it back to us, 702 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,479 Speaker 1: and we'll tweak the law if we have to. What's 703 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: the timeline, like, you know, like in other words, how 704 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: soon could you get it past? And how soon could 705 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: it be enacted? Because I think correct me if I'm wrong. 706 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: Aren't there some states where it should be legal soon? Yeah? 707 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: So this is why we need one national standard. So 708 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: Mississippi and Florida their laws go on the books in July. 709 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: So if you're a student athlete in the state of 710 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: Florida or Mississippi, you can start doing nil as if 711 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: July first. But if you're in any of the other 712 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: forty eight states you can. So that's going to create 713 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: a chaos environment, and so we need something. I would 714 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: argue we need something in the next couple of weeks 715 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: or months, but Congress being what Congress is, my sense 716 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: is we won't get something until I would say end 717 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 1: of this year at the earliest, and it could bleed 718 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: into next year. But I do think we'll get it 719 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: done in the next call it twelve months from today. 720 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: I think we'll get it done. Awesome. And the other 721 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: thing you got going I saw somewhere you're also part 722 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: of Ohio trying to legalize sports petting, right, No, so 723 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee asked me that question. I'm so, I'm not. 724 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: I gave a an analysis of where that bill is. 725 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: The state is going to do it, it's just a 726 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: matter of when. So similar to nil. But that's Ohio 727 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: State House stuff. I'm United States Congress, so I stay 728 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: out of their business. They don't want me poking around 729 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: in it, and it works well that way. But I 730 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,479 Speaker 1: think they'll get it done. Okay, Yeah, that makes sense. 731 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: You're a congressman, You're not in the state of Ohio. 732 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense. Anthony, This was awesome, man, and 733 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: I really really appreciate it. Are you liking it? Are 734 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: you loving it? I do so. You know, it's a 735 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: crazy job, as you can imagine. But look, every day 736 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: I get to wake up and try to think of 737 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: ways to make the country better. I mean that's like, 738 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: what could be better than that? I would say it's 739 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: I like it more than football because you know, the 740 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: goal is bigger and more profound. There's something cool about 741 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: waking up every day and trying to win super Bowls, 742 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: Like that's a pretty awesome thing. The only thing better 743 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: than that that I found professionally is this where you 744 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: get to wake up every day and try to make 745 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: the country better. You got to deal with a lot 746 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: of garbage in the meantime, but but you still get 747 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: the opportunity. So it's it's an amazing honor, and I 748 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: do love it. Are you by far the best athlete 749 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: of the senators and congressmen? I'd like to think, So 750 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: try to think there's some decent ones. You know, I 751 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: think I probably I feel calm it's saying that I'm 752 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 1: probably the best athlete. How good of a cover guy 753 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: is Biden? You know, I don't think he's ken him 754 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: in his back pedal I don't think he's doing much. Anthony, 755 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: thank you so much, man. I really appreciate it, very 756 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 1: informative stuff. Thank you, thanks for having me all right there. 757 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: He is Congressman Anthony Gonzalez from Ohio. Former cult and 758 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: Ohio State receiver. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 759 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 760 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app 761 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: search f SR to listen live.