1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Time for a weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor. It is Thursday night football. The 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: prime time lights are on. It's December. It's the week 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: of Christmas. It's a meaningful football game for the Jaguars 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: and the Jets. And I don't know if many people 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: expected this when they circled the calendar when the schedule 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: came out for Thursday night before Christmas for these two. 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: But here we are, Fred JP. Nothing like time time football, man. Uh, 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, the guys will be ready. I think the 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: guys will be ready, ready to get on these lights. 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: A lot of these guys hadn't played under the lights before, 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, having had an opportunity to 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: have a prime time game. But this is when the 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: stars come out, be up in New York City. Perfect 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: setting around the holidays. You got the former number one 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: and number two pick overall, they'll be going at it. 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: So uh, it's a good setup. It's a very good 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: set up, very meaningful. Uh. And both teams have been 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: trending in the right right direction throughout the course of the 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: the season. Both teams are experiencing their share of injuries too, 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 1: but grit determination and heart will will determine who wins 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: this one. Let's start with the quarterbacks. Obviously, Trevor Lawrence 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: and Zach Wilson will get the nod again this week 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: for the Jets with Mike White injured. Well, Wilson had 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: lost some favor up there, of course, and White was 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: in the lineup, so that kind of tells you where 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: his situation is. Right now, Trevor Lawrence has started to 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: find his way. These two guys will be connected really 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: for the rest of their careers. They'll be talked about 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: because they were drafted right next door to each other 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: in the same draft. So here we are second opportunity 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: to see a matchup between these two. But this one 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: feels a little more real because Trevor's got his act 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: together right now, I think, right right, And it's crazy 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: how that works. Right in the history of the draft, 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: if you have a one in two, two and one, 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: this guy edges this guy, he does this better, that better. 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: You're never know until their career is finished. Right for 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: the most part of it. People are still to this day, 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: uh talking about the Ryan Leaf Payton manning my draft class, 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: and those guys have been tied to each other. Ever since, 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: uh and the coach have obviously gotten a better into 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: that pick. But UH, you know, both guys struggled a 44 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: year ago. Both guys were rookie gun slingers. Zack was 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: down some games. UH, Trevor was going through, you know, 46 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: a coaching situation. So neither guy had an opportunity to 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: really get out there and and and flourish in their 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: rookie season. Both guys coming back for year two. Uh, 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Trevor is taking the lead in my opinion. Zach has 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: had some set back. He's had some media stuff as 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: well following him. Uh, and he's in a bigger market, 52 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: so he has a bigger load on his shoulder. But again, 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: I think the matchup will come down to which controls 54 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: his team's control the ball. When I say that, that's 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: taking care of the ball, making the better decisions, and 56 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: I think Trevor has that that the heads up. Trevor 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: is in the high head. It seems that is a 58 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: bit more of a a hothead. I don't know the kids. 59 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to call them out, but just some 60 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: media moments, UH not handling it pressed properly. You never 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: see that out of the Trevor Lawrence. Uh, and that 62 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: carries you a long way. Fred Taylor with us Trevor 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: Lawrence this week said that you know, after that London game, 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't really anything different. I think just 65 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: as the season is going along, he said that he's 66 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: learned how to really settle in and watch film a 67 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: little better and you know, being more aware of of 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: what's happening. And that's obviously a shown since London. Fourteen touchdowns, 69 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: one interception, and he's making throws and decisions that you 70 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: really want out of your quarterback. And then of course 71 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: last week's game was nuts with the fumble at the end, 72 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: but they got the ball back for him. There's a 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: belief building in this locker room. Maybe it's not even building, 74 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: it's there now that all we're gonna do is get 75 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 1: Trevor the football. A minute left, thirty seconds left, one 76 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: time out, no time out, just get the guy at 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: the ball. And there's a feeling they're gonna get down 78 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: and get some points now. And that's a that's a 79 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: big change from years passed around here. Yeah, that that's 80 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: sort of leadership trickles down. You know, it's contactious man. Uh, 81 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: you see it a few times you started believing in it. 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: I can tell you my time in New England, uh 83 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: and I referenced that a ton. Even when I speak 84 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: to people, you developed a winning mindsets somehow. You just 85 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: believe you can run through break walls. You believe that, 86 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: know how, no matter how much time is that from 87 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: the clock, if you're down, you're gonna find a way. 88 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: And if you put in the work you know in 89 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: the film room, that carries over to the practice field. 90 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: If you demand that sense of urgency on the practice 91 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: field in that respect from your teammates, and you go 92 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: out there and you show it your play, you know, 93 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: not quit. You know Trevor could have easily you know, 94 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: touch this Taill a week aldgo and quit after that 95 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: fumble because I was a big playing that moment in 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: the game, even the interception, but the fumble was the 97 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: one that really stood out. But he kept fighting. You know, 98 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: you want to have that in the teammate and especially 99 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, so those guys around him they 100 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: believe in him. You know, he's granted that right of passage, 101 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: but he has to continue to work hard at it, 102 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: continue to grab these guys and leads and and say Hey, look, 103 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: I need you guys studying as much as I am 104 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: studying because we have an opportunity. We can't control what's 105 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: happening with the Titans over there, right, but we can't 106 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: control our destiny. And it starts right here with the 107 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Jets and getting this one and and tying this things 108 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: up with the Titans and then figuring it out as 109 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: these last couple of games unfold. But uh, it does 110 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: start in classroom and starts with the hardest, starts with 111 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: the leadership in the quarterback position, and it become effectious 112 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: and uh a team follows suit and um man, it's 113 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: some good things can happen. And I think the guys 114 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: know that Fred Taylor with us um the Jaguars defense 115 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: has been under the microscope this year and they've given 116 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: up some yards and it hasn't always been pretty. But 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: last week, you know, they gave up the early touchdowns 118 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: three in a row out of the Cowboys in the 119 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: first half, and then they kind of settled in. They 120 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: got a couple three and ounce they forced a couple 121 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: of field goals. Yes, that made it a three score game, 122 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: but touchdowns would have been a whole lot worse than that. 123 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: Scenario and then they hung in there. They got an 124 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: interception and of course to pick six at the end 125 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: of the game. At the time, I mean that defensive 126 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: performance last week, though it wasn't overall pretty looking at 127 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: the stat book, if you break it down into what 128 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: they did to keep it closer enough and give the 129 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: ball back to the offense, Uh, it was opportunistic. I 130 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: thought from this defense last week, and if that's what 131 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: they get every week going ahead, they're in good shape. 132 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: They pe I did, uh, and I agree with you. 133 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: I did. First take Monday morning ESPN with Ryan Clark, 134 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Mike Irvan and Stephen A and Uh, look, they were 135 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: trying to the There was a Dak Prescott segment right 136 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: and uh, they totally wanted what they didn't want to, 137 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: but the segment was about Doc and what DoD did wrong. 138 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to highlight what Jacksonville did right. And they 139 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: didn't quit. You know, they were down seventeen. They could 140 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: have went and took their tails, but there was a 141 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: situation where the pick happened. They came out, they got 142 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: a three and out, and then after they got the 143 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: three and out, Jacksonville got the ball to throw the 144 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: deep ball down there. Two plays later Tuesday, he scores, 145 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: the defense goes back up. Two plays later, they get 146 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: the interception. Then three plays after that you score on 147 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: a third intended Marvin Jones, and then everything goes unfolds accordingly, 148 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: as you mentioned what the defense stepped up and made 149 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: plays when they needed to. They could have easily laid 150 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: down and not have made any of those plays, and 151 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: we would have been, you know, saying the same thing 152 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: that we say, you know after the game on the 153 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: radio show or Monday or Twitter. Everybody would have been heartbroken. 154 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: But those guys deserve a ton of credit, you know, 155 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: led by obviously Ray Sean, who played a tremendous game, 156 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: one of the best efforts probably than ever in the 157 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: history of the NFL with his performance, and everybody that 158 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: stepped up, a few guys banged ups that you had, 159 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: guys smooth and key going in making plays, and it 160 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: just shows a sign of these guys have been in 161 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: the meeting room, been paying attention, studying properly, waiting for 162 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: their opportunity getting out there seas in a moment, taking 163 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: the advantage of the opportunity they came away to win, 164 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: and they're gonna need to display that same sort of 165 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: effort tonight, red final thought, three games to go. Jags 166 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: are one down in the division. But even with that, 167 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: they control their own destiny right now. So if they 168 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: went out and of course be Tennessee, they would finish 169 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: tied in the division, they would have the tiebreaker or 170 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: that point the destiny talk. I think it's a little 171 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: early for that. They still have to go win some 172 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: more football games. But there is something about the ball 173 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: bouncing the right way for you when it didn't earlier 174 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: in the year. Right, Sometimes the football gods even things out, 175 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: and maybe this is the Jaguars time in the next 176 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yeah, they have an opportunity to control 177 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: what they can control. It's funny that you say that 178 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: now is thinking to myself, there's so much that goes 179 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: on in life that we can absolutely not control. It's 180 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: so much, but there are a few things that we can. 181 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: And even in the game of you know, football or basketball, 182 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, the ball doesn't always bounce your way. But 183 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: you know when you go out there, there are certain 184 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: things during certain aspects of the game that you can't control. 185 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: And that's how hard you play, you know, how you 186 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: uh respond to things, the critical errors that happen throughout 187 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: the course at the game, you know how you respond 188 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: to those and bounce back. And I think this team 189 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: have shown that, even in spite of, you know, those circumstances, 190 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: that will fight to the very in and they've been 191 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: scrappy that way the entire season. They just gotta do 192 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: it three more times, you know, in this regular season, 193 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: starting the night, and whatever happens at the end of 194 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: the day, man, at least they can go out with 195 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: their heads held high saying we fought our asses off, 196 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: regardless of the outcome, but we did fight our butts off, 197 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: and we're ready for any moment going forward. Always a pleasure, Fred, 198 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: enjoy the game. We'll talk to you a little later. Oh, 199 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy. I will be posting my lock on Twitter. 200 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: The lock. Huh. I didn't say it was the lock. 201 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: I said I would be posting my lock. You don't 202 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: want to tease it here, We'll tease it later. Sounds good, friend. 203 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: We'll see all right. J P.