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Speaker 1: Propped up like a little house. Oh yeah, my widow

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Speaker 1: dad is hooking up with my mom's friend. Ooh, call

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Speaker 1: it a comeback story. Oh god, Well, keeping that my

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Speaker 1: mom became friends with the woman will refer to her

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Speaker 1: as Reagan, and after she and I became close friends

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Speaker 1: too as I worked with her. We've been friends for

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Speaker 1: a good few years. But my partner and I and

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Speaker 1: my brothers never really liked Reagan and said that she

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Speaker 1: was very rude and abrupt and also extremely entitled. I

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Speaker 1: did see this too, but I'm a pushover and a

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Speaker 1: people pleaser, so I always let things slide until it

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Speaker 1: reaches a breaking points. By the way, this comes from

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Speaker 1: Storytime Star about So, my mom had cancer and sadly

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Speaker 1: passed away in twenty twenty one and was only in

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Speaker 1: her fifties. My dad is not the type of person

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Speaker 1: that does well on his own and he and my

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Speaker 1: mom did everything together, so I fully expected he would

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Speaker 1: meet someone else at some point. Okay, all right, so

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Speaker 1: at least that's expected. Yeah, yeah, nope, he's giving him

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Speaker 1: kind of the license, like hey, yep, makes sense, especially

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Speaker 1: as he was also fairly young and hopefully still had

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Speaker 1: a lot more life to live. At one point, my

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Speaker 1: sister said that she thought that Reagan and my dad

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Speaker 1: were seeing each other, to which I said no, as

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Speaker 1: I knew he was seeing someone else at that time.

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Speaker 1: Daddy's playing the field, dude, Daddy chill, Daddy chill. I

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Speaker 1: even spoke to Reagan about this, but more along the

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Speaker 1: lines of isn't that funny? Not a free pass to

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Speaker 1: go pursue my dad? Oh boy, Reagan is looking at

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Speaker 1: that free pass. Yeah, she thought it was the go car,

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Speaker 1: you know, proceed two stages to your destination and going.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking through that estate sale. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: after mom's passing and I just chose your dad. We're

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Speaker 2: closing on Yeah, we're closing.

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Speaker 1: So fast forward to my wedding. My mom passed away

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Speaker 1: seven months before a wedding, so it was still extremely fresh,

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Speaker 1: and of course her absence was very much felt Reagan

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Speaker 1: had already done a couple of entitled things at that point,

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Speaker 1: one being that she had asked if she could bring

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Speaker 1: her kid to our no kid's wedding. I of course

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Speaker 1: said no, and she still insisted. But I held firm

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Speaker 1: and said, it's only immediate family, I e. Nieces, nephews,

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Speaker 1: and our own child. She told me, well, in that case,

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Speaker 1: you have to help find child care for her kid. WHOA,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. Otherwise she can't go. I did give her

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Speaker 1: another firm no, as I was already busy working full time,

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Speaker 1: She did find childcare and she did end up coming. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: at least at least that, But I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I don't even want Reagan coming at this. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm not like, oh, it's please Reagan. In my life,

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Speaker 2: it's screw my dad. Oh God, he needs a relief,

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Speaker 2: only raise at least one thing from the dead.

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Speaker 1: Who Everyone grieves differently. I didn't see anything during the day.

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Speaker 1: I was busy having fun at my own wedding with

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Speaker 1: my husband, makes sense. But in the morning when we

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Speaker 1: came down to breakfast, Reagan was also there. This surprised me,

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Speaker 1: and she proceeded to say how she booked last minute

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Speaker 1: didn't think too much more of it. Put an ICU

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Speaker 2: You see the use I'm seeing you see the use?

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Speaker 2: They shacking? They shacking in the same.

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Speaker 1: Room, No need to book one. A couple of months later,

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Speaker 1: when we met up, she told me that her and

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Speaker 1: my dad had been seeing each other, like, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: Martin looking at Riley right now, I see I see Riley?

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Speaker 1: Or is it like I'm seeing Riley? I think he's

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh yeah, god, there it is. Take that thing.

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Speaker 1: The creaking noises were too much. I was quite taken

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Speaker 1: they had hooked up at my wedding. Let's go. What

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Speaker 1: a classic mood. Then to make someone hornier than love.

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Speaker 3: Oh then your kids love, dude, Yeah, then your kids love.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, Oh, I'm watching my daughter get married so much.

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Speaker 1: I need to get in a room right now. Oh no, no.

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Speaker 1: Apparently she pursued him there, but the only reason she

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Speaker 1: unfortunately they do. There is a joke inside every joke.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, and there's more things inside than just a joke.

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Speaker 1: I will say she is closer to my dad's age

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Speaker 1: rather than mine, but I found it very strange. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: I said, Okay, well, I guess I'm happy for you both,

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Speaker 1: but just to be clear, this is my dad, not

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Speaker 1: just a random boyfriend of yours, so you absolutely cannot

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Speaker 1: talk to me about any of your relationship stuff. She agreed,

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Speaker 1: but still trampled all over that boundary many times. Regardless.

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Speaker 1: Reagan not feeling like the best friend slash stepmom. Ever,

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Speaker 1: oh no, not dude friend slash stepmom A friend becomes

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Speaker 1: It's not uncle dad. It's no uncle. It's no uncle,

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Speaker 1: it's no uncle dad. But hey, it's also not the best.

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Speaker 1: repeatedly tell her to stop over the following months. Another

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Speaker 1: piece of crucial information is that she is a single

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Speaker 1: mother of a young son under eight years old, new

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Speaker 1: brother Let's go, who is adopted and referred to as Alan.

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Speaker 1: Alan is on the autism spectrum. The more crucial info. Now,

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Speaker 1: his name? Wait did you just put in Alan? I

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Speaker 1: put in his name is A. His name is A.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's up. Yeah, okay, call him autistic?

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Speaker 2: I'd like, is A A for autistic?

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Speaker 1: Dude? Like you gotta choose a different letter. Hey, this

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Speaker 1: was o peace choice, not mine. We were that he made.

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Speaker 3: And Okay, so for simplicity's sake, which just call him Audie.

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Speaker 1: That's that is crazy. After several months, my dad confided

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Speaker 1: but now we've got to know her and she's really lovely.

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Speaker 1: It was very awkward for me, though, as I knew

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Speaker 1: from Reagan's perspective they were still together. Wait a second,

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Speaker 1: And now Dad is coming back to Ope and it's like, heyop,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually seeing someone. She's like, oh, she's kind of

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Speaker 1: Daddy is playing the field, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy's doing it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe might be going to Lord's work. Daddy's going going

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Speaker 1: going crazy in these streets. Yeah, dude, crazy in these

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Speaker 1: likely my dad asked me not to say anything to Reagan.

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Speaker 1: There it is. That's I mean, that sounds like confirmation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got a roster. Golly, he's feeding Impasta and lobster.

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Speaker 1: I was never going to get involved, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: like being in the middle of it this way, and

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Speaker 1: it was exactly what I didn't want to happen. In

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Speaker 1: the end, my dad ended up ending things with Reagan

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Speaker 1: but still remained friends with her, and Reagan somehow became

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Speaker 1: a fixture in her eyes. Definitely in our family. Ah,

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Speaker 1: Wagan's trying to plant her flag or right in the middle, dude,

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Speaker 1: she is. She is not trying to leave not trying

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Speaker 1: to leave. She would invite herself to family events and

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Speaker 1: bring Alan. She organized a party for Alan at my parents' house,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. I didn't quite understand why, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: months later, my dad announces he and the new girlfriend

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Speaker 1: are engaged.

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Speaker 2: And Daddy was seeing new girlfriend at the same time

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Speaker 2: as Reagan.

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Speaker 1: There was some crossover. Her today official he did end

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Speaker 2: Cross But I think there was crossover, and like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Crossover, like a new girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Now, it could be they were like dating and then

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Speaker 2: he's like, oh no, I want to marry, so I'm

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Speaker 2: going to break it off. But it was kind of

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Speaker 2: like a little sus super sussed. Daddy's getting drained. Dot

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Speaker 1: We own that. We this, we might have to buy.

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Speaker 1: Stop draining the daddy, draining your dad. You gotta stop this.

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Speaker 1: This daddy is drained enough. His tank is empty dry,

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Speaker 2: Is he is shooting blanks? Oh god, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: Just at this point now, Reagan messaged me about the engagement,

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Speaker 1: Like we have so much in common. What do they

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Speaker 1: always say common times some people cheap pregnancy, hospital pregnancy,

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Speaker 1: And if there's one thing we know about Reagan is

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Speaker 1: making a Ronald Reagan Ronald McDonald thing. Yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 1: it was almost executed.

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Speaker 2: You got you guys saw I don't need to complete

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Speaker 2: it and needed guys. You guys saw that.

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Speaker 1: We see it. We see the fast forward to dad's wedding.

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Speaker 1: Reagan came and brought Alan with her. Kids were invited

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Speaker 1: to this wedding. Alan has very volatile and challenging behavior.

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Speaker 1: He has done some pretty awful things, like punting an

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Speaker 1: hard with both feet. He was seven, and has been

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Speaker 1: pretty awful to my own kid too. I now whish.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is a child on the spectrum, So

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Speaker 1: just to throw that out there, opie, But I digress.

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Speaker 1: Now I feel terrible for insisting we still see them

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Speaker 1: for so long, but I've learned never to do that again.

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Speaker 1: Reagan always turns a blind eye or even tells the

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Speaker 1: not stepping in and trying to help with that, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they get to do something like put that

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Speaker 1: She she started like latching onto and like getting around

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Speaker 1: Go, by the way. You know what else is not

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Speaker 2: There's no reasonable excuse to not watch it, zero, because

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Speaker 2: My stepmother demands an apology from my wife, but I

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Speaker 2: won't allow it.

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Speaker 1: Not today. No apology needed because I don't want it.

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Speaker 2: Tie thirty two male have been married to my wife

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Speaker 2: Vivian twenty nine, female for six years.

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Speaker 1: We have three kids.

435
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: I have several siblings, but this instance revolves around my

436
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: half brother, Trevor eighteen, who lives out of state. Trevor

437
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: came to visit over a spring break. My step mom

438
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: has never liked Trevor, mostly because she doesn't like his mother.

439
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from other transition four three seven.

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Speaker 2: If you want us some of your own stories?

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Speaker 1: Good? Who are slash? Okay? Story time? So bread it?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah oh.

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Speaker 2: Three days into Trevor's visit, my step mom kept making

444
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: snarky colms about him, his mom, his family, school, his

445
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: tat two, et cetera. Trevor got tired of this and

446
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: grabbed his car keys and said he was leaving. This

447
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: is around eleven PM. My step mom laughs and says

448
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,959
Speaker 2: he doesn't have enough gas to get home or money

449
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: to get more.

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Speaker 1: Get wreck over.

451
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: Trevor said that he didn't need enough gas or money

452
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Speaker 2: to get home, He just needed enough gas to get

453
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Speaker 2: to my house.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

455
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: My stepmom laughs again and says I'm not even home,

456
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm at work, which was true at work nights, and

457
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Speaker 2: that Vivian, my wife, would never let him stay there.

458
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: Trevor says, I guess we'll see, we got a little

459
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: we got a little stand off here, yep, because he

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00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: knew Vivian wouldn't tell him no, and leaves. My stepmother

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00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 2: then calls my wife and tells her that Trevor is

462
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Speaker 2: on his way to our house and under no circumstances

463
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Speaker 2: is Vivian to allow him to stay with us. Vivian

464
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 2: says she's not going to turn him away, especially down

465
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Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, and that everyone can

466
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Speaker 2: all talk about it tomorrow. So let me know to

467
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Speaker 2: call my dad when I get a chance to figure

468
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: out what's going on. My stepmom begets angry and says

469
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Speaker 2: that Trevor is not Vivian's child and is allowed to

470
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Speaker 2: do whatever he wants, and Vivian needs to respect her

471
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Speaker 2: as the mother of the family, and that she can

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Speaker 2: make life in the family difficult for Vivian if she

473
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: needs to. For Vivian to understand her place.

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Speaker 1: That is a threat, dude, And also, real quick, I

475
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: heard this. I heard a quote recently. I think it

476
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: was on one of her own videos. They're like, if

477
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: someone marries your dad in adulthood, that's not your step mom.

478
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: That is your husband's wife. You're not telling me, mom,

479
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: big boy, I'm a man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that Vivian has no right to let people

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Speaker 2: into my name's home without my knowledge. There were other

482
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Speaker 2: things said as well, and eventually Vivian loses her patients

483
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Speaker 2: and ends the call by saying that my mom is

484
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: just mad that she can't be a f mom bully

485
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: to Trevor anymore because he found a loophole. My stepmother

486
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: calls me while I'm at work and tells me Vivian

487
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: was rude to her. At this point, I have no

488
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Speaker 2: idea that anything has happened. She then calls my dad,

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Speaker 2: he works nights as well, and tells some version of events.

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Speaker 2: My dad calls me and tells me that Vivian was

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Speaker 2: disrespectful and had no right to speak to her that

492
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: way and needs to apologize for her behavior. I get

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Speaker 2: a call about five minutes later from Vivian. He tells

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Speaker 2: me that Trevor is at our house and they tell

495
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: me everything that happened. Since Vivian wasn't at the house

496
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 2: and Trevor wasn't there yet for a call, I call

497
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Speaker 2: my dad and tell him that it doesn't sound like

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00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: Vivian did anything except stand up for herself, and my

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Speaker 2: dad insists that Vivian needs to apologize. Why does Vivian

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00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: need to apologize? Last I heard, your stepmom was being

501
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: mean to Trevor. Trevor leaves. Trevor goes and says that Vivian,

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00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: Vivian can let whoever she wants into the house, big girl,

503
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: Trevor's eighteen. Trevor is legally a man, that's true, non

504
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: legally a boy, but legally a man. Yes, I don't

505
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: want to say non legally a boy. There are men

506
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Speaker 2: that have fought and gone to war at eighteen, that's true,

507
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: and it become more men than us podcast chair boys

508
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Speaker 2: could ever be.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're on the front lines of context. That is true.

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Speaker 2: We are we are you know we are, we are?

511
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: We are World War two. Vets have nothing on the

512
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: podcast vets that we are. We have gone through the trenches.

513
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: Couldn't have said it better myself.

514
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: I tell him, if anybody is owed an apology, it's

515
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: Vivian true the facts. This was all three days ago.

516
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: I'm getting texts from family members about Vivian needing to

517
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: apologize and that Vivian doesn't have the right to get

518
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: involved with family squabbles, and she shouldn't have let Trevor

519
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: run away from the consequences of his actions. No one

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00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 2: can tell me what the actions were, and if Vivian

521
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: doesn't apologize, then she's not welcome around anymore. So whack

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00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: whack these roles should be freaking Friday. Yep, yeah, Hannah

523
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: says podcast Soldiers. Yes, ma'am, I don't think she owes

524
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: an apology. But I had a bad relationship with my

525
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: family for years when I was younger, and since it's

526
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: proved drastically, I've been a lot happier having them life,

527
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 2: and I don't want to lose them like that. But

528
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: I also can't just allow someone to disrespect my wife

529
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: so blatantly in respect and expect an apology for it.

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00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: But Vivian at this point is starting to feel bad,

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00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: and she always stresses too much over absolutely anything she

532
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: thinks she might have done to upset someone, So this

533
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: really sent her on a series of mental gymnastics, and

534
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: she says, if she doesn't want to be the reason

535
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: I have a bad relationship with my family yet again,

536
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: Vivian is a goat.

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00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: That's true, she's worried about everyone, but you know what

538
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: she deserves to be worried about herself.

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00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's literally thrown her body on the front lines,

540
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: ain't It's true? Much like our World War two that's

541
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: and our podcast veterans yep, all equally risking it all. Yeah,

542
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: you know it's beautiful to see. Hopefully we all can

543
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: be an inspiration. I've remained firm. Yeah, you have that

544
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: she doesn't owe them anything. But am I the a

545
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: hole for not having her do it? Just to get

546
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: over with? There are some relevant comments and an update,

547
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: But do you think ops the A hole not the

548
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: A hole? Tell me what you believe? Yeah, your heart

549
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: of hearts. I don't think O PE's a whole. I

550
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: definitely don't think Vivian is the a whole. A Vivian

551
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: is the angel angel if anything? Uh, and I don't.

552
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: But to answer Ope's question, I don't think that she

553
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: should go to Vivian and say, hey, just apologize, because

554
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: we are enabling the family and step mom to be

555
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: able to pressure her and to something we always say

556
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: is like your family, your your problem. Right? So O

557
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: p is the one, This is O Pea's step mom,

558
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: This is o Peas down, this is PE's cross to bear.

559
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: That is your burden bear. So you got to go

560
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: to the family and be like, listen, you can't treat

561
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: my wife that way. I have drawing a hard line

562
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: and you need it. You should. You should apologize. Know exactly,

563
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: but exactly needs to get out of the trenches, store

564
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: on the battlefield of really really milking this. We that's

565
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: relevant comments We got an update. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Comment one says, not the a hole. Your wife is

567
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: a good person for supporting your brother, whilst your stepmother

568
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: is a manipulative and cruel woman and your dad is

569
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: supporting her behavior. I think it's time to cut off

570
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: both of them and let your brother know that you'll

571
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: always have his back. I don't know about cut off,

572
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: but I think I think a little bit of a

573
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: distance for sure. He had draw a line. Opie says,

574
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: he definitely knows we will. The last three visits he's made,

575
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: he's stayed with us to avoid her. He just didn't

576
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: this time because it was also the kids spring break

577
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: and V had a lot of things planned for them

578
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: to go do. Now she's been taking him with them,

579
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: and Co two says, you're all adults him too. Fact,

580
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: your stepmother went on a bowling rampage, then full backcrap

581
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: power tripping. She isn't your mother, nor your wife's mother,

582
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: not even your brother's mother mother, So where the heck

583
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: is she claiming the title? She's the stepmom, and even

584
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: if she was, you are all adult. She can't make

585
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: any of you do nothing. She has no authority on

586
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: who enters you and your wife's home, no more than

587
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: where and what your adult brother chooses to be or do. No,

588
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: she can't do what she wants. No, she doesn't get

589
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: to decide what other adults do with their lives. No,

590
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: she can't force others to follow her orders to bully. No,

591
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: she doesn't get to do whatever the duck she wants,

592
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: or conduct herself in such a horrific extent without consequences.

593
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: What is really concerning is how fast she started to

594
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: be menacing towards you and her wife. Yeah she threatened quick, Yeah,

595
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: how sure she was to not get anyone opposing her,

596
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: Certain of being able to force others into her sane demands.

597
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: Your wife has nothing to apologize for. She deserves some

598
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 2: for the insanity she had to put up with. Your

599
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: stepmother wants to cause pain and control others. She reached

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00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: a quite dangerous level of having lost touch with reality.

601
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: These sounds actually seriously dangerous, and Nope responds, she has

602
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: a daughter of her own from a previous marriage, and

603
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: she and my dad have my youngest brother together. Also,

604
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: they've been married for a long time, so I'm assuming

605
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: that's where she came up with that line. And a

606
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: comment three says not the a whole stepmom sounds like

607
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: she's on a power trip. Can you tell your dad everything,

608
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: Vivian said. Slash threatened that her dislike of Trevor is

609
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: also putting a wedge between you and your dad too.

610
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: You write to stand up for your wife and Tea.

611
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, everyone else is reasonable and OPI response. I

612
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: am planning to speak to my dad one last time

613
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: about the situation tonight. I told him the conversation that happened,

614
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: but I have no idea what my stepmother told him

615
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: happened on the call. So updates, Sam. Here, we're gonna

616
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Speaker 1: April fools. Let's see who is a fool?

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Speaker 2: First of all. Thank you for your advice and the

621
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: kind words for Slash about Vivian. I spoke to my

622
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: dad last night, and I wish I could say it

623
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: went well, oh brother, but I think absolutely no one

624
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: expected it too. He put me on speaker and my

625
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: stepmother was in the room with him. I said that

626
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: Vivian will not be apology and that she is an

627
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: adult who can make her own decisions about having a

628
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: guest in our home. I don't control her decision making.

629
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Speaker 2: My stepmom cut in with it. You're controlling her now

630
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: by deciding for her. You can't make things right, which.

631
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: I responded, you might be right about that, but in

632
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: this instance, it's a risk I'm willing to take. Doesn't

633
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: have anything to apologize for. I said, I'm not going

634
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: to allow you to continue to cause her or myself

635
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: unnecessary stress. I also told them they can't seriously expect

636
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: an apology after the way they acted, and if they did,

637
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: they were borderline insane. Throw it down. Let them know

638
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 1: you can't bully and belittle someone repeatedly and expect them

639
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: to be okay with it forever. And you cannot threaten

640
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: an adult and expect it to just go over nicely.

641
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: I told them that if they were so willing to

642
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: act like children and cut Vivian and by extension, me

643
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: and our children out of the family, then we would

644
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: save them the hasshole and do it ourselves. I told

645
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: them we would be blocking their numbers along with everyone else.

646
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: They tried to argue more, but I simply hung up,

647
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: which might have been immature, but I was just done.

648
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: I blocked everyone's numbers. About an hour later, I get

649
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: a Facebook message from my stepsister. I rarely used Facebook,

650
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: so I forgot I had her as a friend on there.

651
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: My stepsister is the only sibling who isn't my dad's

652
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: and is the only one of my stepmoms. She and

653
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Vivian have always been really close. He hasn't been involved

654
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: in this situation at all, so I took the chance

655
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: called her hmm. She asked me if everything her mom

656
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: had told her was true, and I said most likely not,

657
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: but this is what happened, and explained it all to her.

658
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: She then told me several instances where her mom had

659
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: been similar to her and her fiance. She said she

660
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: had wanted to cut ties a long time ago, but

661
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: didn't want to be the only one in the family

662
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: who is on the outs, and she doesn't have a dad,

663
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: so no other family to turn to. He asked if

664
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: I had really blocked them and planned to keep it

665
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: that way, and I said yes, and so did Vivian Trevor.

666
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: She called me back and hung up. By the way,

667
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: you should never hang up on stories just like.

668
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: This, Oh, because you can go to Spotify, Apple Podcast,

669
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 2: your favorite podcast app and search okay, storytime for full

670
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: episodes fifty plus days straight days a full episode.

671
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: That's right, there's another relevant update. But let's discuss. Let's talk.

672
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: What do you think about using this this crazy stepmother's

673
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: daughter as a as a way in Yeah, I mean

674
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: I think it is, you know, good to hear her

675
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: out because, like Opie said, it's like, hey, she's good

676
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: friends with his wife Vivian, and you know she wasn't

677
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: involved in the mix. She was completely on the outside.

678
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: I think it's totally fair, like pick up the call, answer,

679
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: get to hear her perspective. Not that that you know,

680
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: would necessarily change this stance with stepmom and everything. It

681
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: helps you understand to the point where you can do something. Yeah,

682
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: and also just really quick, we never learned what Trevor

683
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: did to pick. The step mom would not reveal what

684
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: he did, which, which leans way is nothing. Yes, it

685
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: leads me to believe that it was absolutely nothing and

686
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: she knew that. Oh if people knew that's why she

687
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: was kicking them out, then they'd be like, what are

688
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: you talking about? What are you talking about? I do

689
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: think I will say. My guess is that this is

690
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: one in a long line of crazy things that the

691
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: stepmom has done. If that's true, I mean, there could

692
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: have been maybe more of a time out, you know,

693
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: and just see how things go. But it kind of

694
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: feels like there's a lot more stuff that she's done

695
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: in the past. She's not seem like someone reasonable that

696
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: you can maybe get through the stuff through communication.

697
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

698
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: Well, about twenty minutes later I get a call from

699
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: her saying that she had called my stepmom. Her mom

700
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: had cut the cord with them as well and blocked

701
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: their numbers too, as did fiance. So while I might

702
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: have lost a decent amount of my family members, I

703
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: did actually get to keep the best two out of

704
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: the bunch, plus obviously my wife and kids. Thank you

705
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: to everyone or advice and we got a few comments.

706
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: In a response from Ope comment one, I said, great resolution,

707
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: the only rational way to deal with the sane people,

708
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: and comment to not the a whole You're stepmother is unhinged.

709
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: He has no business telling your wife what to do

710
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: with her home.

711
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: What's with that? Bs that Vivian can't let people in

712
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: the house without your permission? Why is your father not

713
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: defending his son with your stepmother's rude common mm. I

714
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: inherited my grandmother's apartment, but she won't let go of it. Oh, Grandma,

715
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: just let go. You're gonna be in the ground soon.

716
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: That will be like your apartment. Gota pry it out

717
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: of your old cold hands. Well, I thirty two female,

718
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: have a grandma eighty two female who is living in

719
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: an apartment that I own. But let me start with

720
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: more context. My grandma is a very toxic person. She

721
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: is one of the most evil people that I have

722
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: met in my life. Personally, Wow, oh my goodness, grandma

723
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: sounds terrible bold statements over here. She is extremely emotionally immature.

724
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I imagine an eight year old spoiled girl in the

725
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: body of an eighty year old woman. I don't know

726
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: why that's making me laugh. By the way, this comes

727
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: from tiny procedure. You're thirty five to twenty one, and

728
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: if you want to submit your own stories, go to

729
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: the r slash Okay storytime. So abreut it So she

730
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: neglected her two kids, my mom and my uncle, to

731
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: the point that they are both low contact and walking

732
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: on eggshells their whole lives. She was also never interested

733
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: in me and my brother, her grandchildren, to the point

734
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: that I met her in person maybe only like twenty

735
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: times in my entire life. How did she get your apartment?

736
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I met her for

737
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: the first time when I was maybe eight years old.

738
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: There was one period of time where she was more

739
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: in contact, but for the last twenty years basically no contact. Again,

740
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: still somehow living in your apartment interesting. I really hoped

741
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: I would never have to deal with her for the

742
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: rest of my life. But here we are.

743
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: Here we are. Granny has come back from the dad

744
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: to haunt. You lost you alive?

745
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: That's right. Follow that now to the current situation. I

746
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: unfortunately lost both of my parents. Wow. My dad passed

747
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: away nine years ago due to cancer, and my mom

748
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: unexpectedly passed away last year from heart failure. So the

749
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: grandma literally outlived her her parents. It was an extremely

750
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: difficult situation, not only emotionally, but also because my younger

751
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: brother thirty mail has a psychiatric diagnosis and I had

752
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: to find him a new place to live, managed a

753
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: whole new situation from him, and settle how it will

754
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: be from now on. That is a lot to handle. Also,

755
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: my family was quite well known in my country due

756
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: to their profession, so everything was public. Photographers were, Oh wow,

757
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. That makes it a lot worse. What

758
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: OPI's low key kind of famous. The op is well

759
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: known in their country due to their profession, so everything

760
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: was very public. OPI is well known due to their profession. Yes,

761
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: the family, the family, the whole family. So parents passed

762
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: away and you know before the grandma, Grandma's outlived her children.

763
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: Opie's got a move that the brother who has a

764
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: psychiatric disorder, now he's start like there is a lot

765
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: going on.

766
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: This sounds like the Queen of England, you know, it

767
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: kind of does like that patriarchy or whatever.

768
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: So professional photographers were everywhere and it was just an

769
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: overwhelming time. So OPI, Opie's very famous, a low key

770
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: I think Doiley's point could could be royal fans, royalty wow,

771
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: big royals, right, hey if this is if that's eup, yeah,

772
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: come on the show. Yeah yeah, come on the show

773
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: please and give us a crown. Now. My grandma didn't

774
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: bother coming to my mom, her own daughter's funeral, and

775
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: when the newspapers asked her what will happen with my

776
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: brother now because of his mental illness, she literally publicly said,

777
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't care about those things. It's crazy. Wow about

778
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: the apartment.

779
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: Yo, Riley, Yeah, can you put this into chat and

780
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: see if we have enough information to know who these

781
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 2: people are.

782
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: Out that apartment. It originally belonged to my great grandparents

783
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: parents have said Grandma Grandma was basically born and raised there.

784
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: Then from the ages of around twenty to sixty she

785
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: was living in a completely different city. Meanwhile, her mom,

786
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: my great grandma, decided to give that apartment directly to

787
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: her granddaughter, which is my mom. She had her reasons,

788
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: and she decided to skip her daughter in the inheritance

789
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: process and give this apartment directly to my mom and

790
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: said my mom then owned the apartment, did some much

791
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: needed reconstruction and allowed her mom. Grandma from the story

792
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: to live there, as I previously said, and you are

793
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: probably putting the pieces together. Now. My mom suddenly passed

794
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: away this year, so now I inherited and owned the apartment, Shesh,

795
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: I am the only owner. Now, the sole owner of

796
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: the apartment. We split the inheritance with my brother and

797
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: I left him all of the cash. Due to his

798
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: mental situation, he wouldn't be able to take care of

799
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: any real estate or anything like that. I'm his official

800
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: helper in all things admitised station, governmental documents, finance management,

801
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, kind of like power of attorney

802
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: in scene. Yep, when my mom passed away, Grandma wasn't

803
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: really doing anything or wasn't in contact. And after a

804
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: few months, I really needed to visit the apartment and

805
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: take pictures to see the overall situation, you know, as

806
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: the owner of the apartment, as you should, as one

807
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: would do. Hey, I want to go to my house.

808
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: My house. I didn't street Downey Street, that is get them. Sorry,

809
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: I got excited. I'm called. I called her. Mind you

810
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: I heard from her after twenty years and she was

811
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: surprisingly nice. We managed to visit her take pictures of

812
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: the apartment, and she was quite friendly. I was glad,

813
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: but suspicious. Suspicious. Later I found out that my grandma

814
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: never signed any contract with my mom, and she was

815
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: basically living there rent free, contract free, and eventually responsibility free.

816
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: That's a lot of free. I decided to ask her

817
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: to sign a regular contract and to provide some reasonable rent.

818
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm not a cruel person. I understand she is eighty

819
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: two living on a pension, though she is still partially working.

820
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: Dang's man, who is this fan? Granny is still partially working? Yes?

821
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: Who is this family? Riley? Correct, figure it out.

822
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: It's researching, Hurry, it's te Yeah, Mush.

823
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: I offered her a third of the price that she

824
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: would have to pay the owner or landlord if they

825
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: were someone else, So basically basically charging a third of

826
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: what the rent should be. Yeah. I decided to call

827
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: her and ask if she would be willing to do that.

828
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: At first she was, she was in a good mood,

829
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: and then she said, if you need money, just tell me.

830
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: Boy Oh p's asking for to Okay, so wait, wait

831
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: really quick, Yes, sir, it's Ope's house apartment.

832
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's Ope's apartment. Grandma's trying to live in there

833
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: is living just no contract nothing. Okay, So is this

834
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: Opie's apartment. Granny's living there, and he's like, hey, Granny,

835
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: would you pay a third of what the rent would be? Yes? Okay?

836
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: Can we can we get a contract in place? Would

837
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: you all? I just want to charge you a third

838
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: of what the rent should be?

839
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: You know, how did and and just to fully clarify, yes,

840
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: OPI inherited this house.

841
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: Yes, it was passed down through a long rigamarole and

842
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: eventually landed in Opie's hands through inheritance. Right. Uh, the

843
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: reason why Grandma was living there, she was living there

844
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: when Opie's mom was still alive when she ran the apartment, right,

845
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: So it kind of so, but Granny's been just like

846
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: staying there long free for a long time, no contracts, nothing, right,

847
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: just just straight up living in there.

848
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: So it is a tough situation though, because like she

849
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: has been living living rent free in that like the

850
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: expectations she's going to continue to live there rent free.

851
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: I do though, she is just absolutely terrible in a

852
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: talk person. I do think it's a little hard to

853
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: charge someone who's been living rent free in a place

854
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: like that's family.

855
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: Charging a third yeah, Opie says. At first she was

856
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: down for this, she was in a good mood, and

857
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: then she said, if you need money, just tell me.

858
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: I really didn't like this sentence because I don't actually

859
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: need money from her. She is living for free in

860
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: a place she doesn't own or have any legal rights to.

861
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: I told her I would call her in one week

862
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: again with more information. I didn't tell her the price.

863
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: Yet when I called her for the second time, her

864
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: mood was completely different. She had an absolutely not attitude

865
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: towards the whole contract situation. At first, she started blaming

866
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: her own mother that she had given the apartment to

867
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: my mom instead of her. Then she said, how horrible

868
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: of a granddaughter I am to want something like this

869
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: from her, And she started basically threatening me that she

870
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: can ruin my reputation in the newspaper. Now, I am

871
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: only a daughter of my parents. I do not work

872
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: in any public profession. In fact, I would love to

873
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: live a blissfully invisible life, so there's really no reputation

874
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: to be ruined. I consider it nasty. Anyway, I'll call

875
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: the paper to tell them what you did? Old paid?

876
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: Did you charge green wrench? I do think I don't know.

877
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what country this is, but I mean

878
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: in America you might have like squatters rights if she's

879
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: been living there for years and years and years. I

880
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: think that there is a potential that, like you just

881
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: might be uh wrecked real quick.

882
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: I think Opie had a line where she was basically like,

883
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't need the money. Why are we bothering? Why

884
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: are we bothering? Like if you don't, if you don't

885
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: really if it sounds like you just want to punish

886
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: this this granny, that's just awful.

887
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: Okay, it's fifty percent God telling it.

888
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get

889
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: back to the story, but here's a quick three minute

890
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: break from asp form response. She cited that I must

891
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: honor thy father and thy mother, which was very creepy,

892
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: not only because she is not religious, but because it

893
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: was the same sentence that my dad always used when

894
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: I was not obedient. Made me physically sick. The last

895
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: thing was that she started just threatening to unlive herself,

896
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: and that was the end of the call. It took

897
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: me several minutes to be able to speak. I was

898
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: at first crying uncontrollably and then I shared it with

899
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: my husband. My husband is a saint. My Night and

900
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: the whole in law family are the best people I've

901
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: ever met, and I'm really thankful. So we decided to

902
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: send her a letter in which I again offered the contract.

903
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: I made the price even a little bit lower, and

904
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: I also sent a proposition of the contract to where

905
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: so if she agreed, she could sign it right away

906
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: and send it back. She replied with a handwritten note

907
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: of some two paragraphs that she doesn't need any contract

908
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: because she has been living there for twenty years or

909
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: something like that.

910
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: That could be true. I mean, that could be true

911
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: squatter or squat or something.

912
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: That's like that's not squatter's rights, that's like squatters like legacy.

913
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: Yes there for what's the full generation? Yeah, yeah, dude,

914
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know.

915
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: Again now where she sounds terrible, but I really I

916
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 2: don't think charging this a granny rent for a house

917
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: that stayed within your family for decades that she's been

918
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: is like worth it. And also like just feels I

919
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 2: don't know, I just it feels a little bit whack.

920
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: On op side if I'm being honest. For a few

921
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: like guessing here totally guessing a few hundred bucks, Yeah,

922
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: a few hundred bucks were doing all the palace.

923
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay, this palace, even the essentially they

924
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: don't need the money, so it's not about the money.

925
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: It's about the punishment. And you're punishing yourself if anything else,

926
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: you know, that's a good We say self care over.

927
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: Pettiness on this show. This feels like a little bit

928
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: at pettiness over self guard. So in the meantime, I

929
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: also found out more about her behavior in the apartment building.

930
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Ten years ago. There was an official complaint from the

931
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: whole building regarding her unhinged behavior, which the whole building

932
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: leading me to leading me to believe all the butlers

933
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: in their cult. We're saying that she was calling quite

934
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: a ruggus. She was damaging property, leaving some parts of

935
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: the building open. So that way some burglary. Burglary happened,

936
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: not her intention, by the way, but anyways, she spilled

937
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: a whole bucket of water in the hallway, et cetera,

938
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: et cetera. I don't know.

939
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: That last one feels like a little of like we're nitpicking.

940
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: She's an old woman, she's trying to carry by w

941
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: W talk.

942
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: I feel like we're reaching. We gathered all of this

943
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: and we delivered it to the lawyer. I hope you're

944
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: doing too much. We've already said that. In the end,

945
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: we sent her a letter giving her another chance to

946
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: communicate and sign the contract. She didn't answer, nothing, silence.

947
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: So now I'm standing at the point of taking it

948
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: all to court and possibly ordering her to leave the

949
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: apartment by law. We're gonna have the police escort Grandy

950
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: out of here. All the documents are being prepared, we

951
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: haven't sent it just yet. The whole situation is emotionally

952
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: very difficult for me. For my whole life, I've always

953
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: been conditioned, manipulated and gas lit into submission, being the

954
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: caretaker for everyone and not being able to say no,

955
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: especially to family, in order to keep the peace. I've

956
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: actually had enough, and part of me wants to really

957
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: stop being a doormat and stand up for myself and

958
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: my rights. Another part of me is somehow scared to

959
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: be the villain in someone else's story and be seen

960
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: as an evil person ruin the life of an old woman.

961
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: By the way, if you do not want to be

962
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: an evil person and to uh and to grow into

963
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: the best version of yourself. Go to Spotify, Apple podcast,

964
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: i heeart podcast app and search Okay story time for

965
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: two thousand episodes to Good Advice thousand episodes. That's a

966
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: lot of episodes, John, so many, so many, endless, endless

967
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: content of good advice giving Gooflee. So that's all I'm saying.

968
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: But ladies and gentlemen, we've got one final piece to this, John,

969
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: give it to me. But my my thing before we

970
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 1: go into this, I do feel like, as terrible as

971
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: this old lady may be, I feel like op is

972
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: maybe doing a little bit too much. I'm the cost

973
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: of their own happiness. Agree to just let this old

974
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: lady pass away in peace. You know, you got like

975
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: three years. Maybe it could be twenty could Yeah, that's true,

976
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: it could be forty. Will live like with me, dude.

977
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: You know, I think they're going to solve aging in

978
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: the next like ten years.

979
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: You could be right.

980
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: I think I think if we at least like Ai,

981
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: Twitter is telling me that if you just make it

982
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: ten years, we're we're we're we're we're gold we're golden.

983
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 3: Oh we do some virgin blood. We can do it.

984
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be having an

985
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: HRV like Riley in no time. My heart is going

986
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: to be as young as Riley's. Dude, I don't let

987
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: me look at it. I look at it. Flex it

988
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: on me. Bro I said a pretty good last night

989
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: is always flexed on me. Okay, let's see strained for strength.

990
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: So my uncle is another almost last living relative. Though

991
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: being traumatized by her as her son for his whole life,

992
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: he is also an enabler and is now not communicating

993
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: with me because I want a contract. Wow, dang, dude,

994
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: come on, uncle, solidarity, What's what's going on? It hurts

995
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: not only because there's basically no one on my side

996
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: of the family left, but because I always liked him

997
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: very much. But such is life. I also have a

998
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: two year old and I'm currently pregnant with my second baby.

999
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: It is really just a lot right now. Also, my

1000
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: grandma is healthy. She she has longevity in her jeans.

1001
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: Her mom passed away at ninety three. B yeah, ninety three,

1002
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: ten more years. Yeah, you got you, you might got to,

1003
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: you might have a while. You've got You've got potentially

1004
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: over a decade left away at least, And people living

1005
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: longer and longer. My grandparents are ninety three and ninety two. Wow,

1006
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: how old your grandpa?

1007
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: Great grandpa, he's ninety two. I need to see him soon.

1008
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: Ninety two ninety two, man, And I think my grandpa

1009
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: and grandma, I think I got another ten years. That's

1010
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're they're they're golden. I

1011
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: would believe it. I think I think you got good

1012
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: genes in the family. My grandma my mom were intellectually

1013
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: sparring yesterday about or like two days of about politics. Dude, lovely,

1014
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: there we go. That's they're sharp. Yeah, it means the sharp.

1015
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: My grandpa yesterday was like, are you dealing with the

1016
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: deed before marriage?

1017
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 3: What did you say?

1018
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, Grandpa, And he's like, you're Catholic?

1019
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: Upbreaking me nothing. And then we had a beautiful conversation

1020
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: about religion and spicy sleep. You get on you for

1021
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: standing on business, Oh, dude, you know I can't lie.

1022
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: That's true, Grandpa.

1023
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: Grandpa, dude, my great grandpa tried to give me money

1024
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 4: to buy in high school.

1025
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: I was like, Grandpa, I'm good, I'm scared.

1026
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that looks like.

1027
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: That is that is literally that is literally exactly what

1028
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: I'm going to do as a grandpa. That is exactly

1029
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do.

1030
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: H not by that time, you're gonna you're probably gonna

1031
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 4: have the WD forty for their you know robot.

1032
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, your robot. My grandma has longevity and

1033
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: her jeans. Her mom passed away at ninety three. She

1034
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: has some difficulty walking, but mentally she is okay, apart

1035
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: from being that crap crazy of course, So would I

1036
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: be the a hole if I sued my grandma and

1037
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: eventually kicked her out of my apartment. So that's the

1038
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: end of the story. But we we have to have

1039
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: this conversation, Sam, and ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna we're

1040
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: gonna see if we can get to the bottom of

1041
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: the big secret royal family in second here too, So

1042
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: stick around for that. But I honestly, I'm gonna be

1043
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: honest here, Sam. I think she kind of might be Yeah,

1044
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: definitely to herself. I think so too. I think so too.

1045
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: Like, while yes it is, you have inherited it, and

1046
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: so I guess legally you can do what you want.

1047
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: I think the fact that like the default was the

1048
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: Graham was staying there rent free. Kind of means that

1049
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: you inherited that problem when you inherited the apartment, you know.

1050
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and like I think it would be you know,

1051
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: what's a completely different scenario is hey, uh, you know

1052
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: me and my husband, we have a two year old,

1053
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: we have another baby. Hey, we're trying to roll in

1054
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: the dough. Yeah.

1055
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: If if it was a money issue, then I think

1056
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 2: that would be totally fine. But again, ops, like it's

1057
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 2: not a money issue. Yeah, I'm part of this royal

1058
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: Scottish family.

1059
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 4: Really Yeah, they said none of this is a perfect match.

1060
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: We got one in France, we got one in Scotland.

1061
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: All right, well yeh, chad if you if you got

1062
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 1: it like that, guess in the comments of his video,

1063
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: somebody go and and s we can find this out. Yeah,

1064
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: do your internet research and make your top like comment.

1065
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: I want to see that on this video. Yeah, that's

1066
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: all that's all I think.

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Speaker 2: Op, you're you're a little bit the a holepe And hey,

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Speaker 2: you know people disagree with us all the time.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: But your answers in the comments below, and with that,

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Speaker 2: I think that is the end of this episode. Yes, sir, so,

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Speaker 1: We love you and all