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Speaker 1: Days and now your host, Kyle Yeomans. It is the

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Speaker 1: Draft Show for another day, a Thursday Draft Show, the

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Speaker 1: second draft show of the week. Once again, I am

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Speaker 1: of the Draft Show. We've Kyle Yeomans on assignment Aisha Morrison.

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Speaker 1: I hope she gets to feeling better. She was. I

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Speaker 1: talked to her this morning. She is having fomo about

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Speaker 1: being missing the Draft show. And Bobby Belt was on

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Speaker 1: assignment as well. So for the Draft Show today, you

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Speaker 1: got a couple of guys from one oh five three

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Speaker 1: the Fan. Uh my guy, Zach Woolchuk is joining me

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Speaker 1: today to talk a little NFL draft. We're always happy

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Speaker 1: to have the opportunity to do this. Zach, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing this morning? You know me, I'm not very

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Speaker 1: good on the pleasantries of it all. Yeah. You like

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Speaker 1: It's like your phone calls. Yeah, anytime I have a

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Speaker 1: phone call with Brian, it's not Hello, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: It's all right, get straight to the point. Get straight

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Speaker 1: to the point. What do you think about this guy?

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Speaker 1: Did you watch Tank Dell? What do you think about

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Speaker 1: b Jean Robinson? Where are we today? Are we on resignment?

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Speaker 1: Are we on remote? Yeah? Fill out your brackets? Ye

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Speaker 1: had all that, but yeah, no, you've got me down.

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Speaker 1: And this is though, this is the time of year.

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Speaker 1: We're getting close. We're getting closer. We're starting to have

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Speaker 1: the the Pro days wind down, We're having free agency

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Speaker 1: for some positions, you know that teams are looking at.

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Speaker 1: But once we get done with these Pro Days, these

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Speaker 1: teams are going to go back into their war rooms

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Speaker 1: or the places where they evaluate players, and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: and then they're gonna get full on setting boards. And Zach,

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Speaker 1: I want to get in at least in the first

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Speaker 1: segment with you today. And by the way, the Draft

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Speaker 1: we always think everybody that's involved with the show. But

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Speaker 1: what I want to get into right off the jump,

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Speaker 1: and I've been doing this drafting stuff since nineteen ninety two. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've had a media career, I had a

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Speaker 1: scouting career. Been very fortunate in my life to have

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Speaker 1: two different careers, but still involved with the scouting stuff

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Speaker 1: the way that I do. And now having you involved

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Speaker 1: in Aisha and Bobby Belt and everybody in Kyle, everybody involved,

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Speaker 1: all the guys from the past that used to do this,

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Speaker 1: the Dame Burglars of the world and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: This is the one draft where I'm struggling in a

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Speaker 1: And this is a draft, as Jim Nance would say,

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Speaker 1: got clips of if you haven't seen Tank Dell, a man,

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Speaker 1: the Beamer has got Tank Dell highlights up. And he

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about it, it's not the elite kind

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Speaker 1: the other receivers are gone. Yeah, and Zay's the best

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Speaker 1: guy on your board, you know, McCarthy. And there was

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Speaker 1: came up and this is from Tim Webb. Tim Tim Webb.

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Speaker 1: Tim Webb asked this. He said, Uh, thoughts on Joe

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Speaker 1: tip Tipman from Wisconsin? Could he start a guard and

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Speaker 1: move the center if Tyler leaves next season? What do

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Speaker 1: you think about Joe Tipman? So Wisconsin Tipman, it has

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Speaker 1: the size to do that. But I saw him get

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Speaker 1: stood up at the line against bigger defensive tackles and typically,

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Speaker 1: you know Wisconsin, you love you love their lineman, right,

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Speaker 1: They've just got a history of producing good lineman. I

474
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Speaker 1: didn't see him get a lot of movement, but he is.

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Speaker 1: He's a competitive son of a gun, that guy. He's

476
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Speaker 1: always working good run blocker, doesn't lose ground, but and

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Speaker 1: always getting that knockback that you want. Sure as an

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman he can get to the second level. I

479
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Speaker 1: thought he worked the combo blocks well with the guard

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Speaker 1: next to him. Seemed like a smart football player. Can

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Speaker 1: get around and pull, but he's not super quick, so

482
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Speaker 1: you don't want him to have to go to That's

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Speaker 1: the one thing for me. If he kicked him outside

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Speaker 1: to guard, does he have the athleticism to be able

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Speaker 1: to pull and get out in space? If you wanted

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Speaker 1: to kick him over, and he's a guy. To me.

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Speaker 1: In my notes, I put he does end up on

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Speaker 1: the ground quite a bit and that annoyed me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the thing with him, he's a tall guy.

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Speaker 1: He's six six, he's three thirteen, and so maybe you

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Speaker 1: plays a little tall. And yeah, there are times when

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Speaker 1: this guy gets a little ragdald and I mean ragdal

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Speaker 1: like defenders grab him, yeah, and they shake him right,

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Speaker 1: and you talk about him being on the ground, but

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Speaker 1: I mean there's that he's just not gonna draw his

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Speaker 1: guy off the ball. I mean, he could be a

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Speaker 1: good blocker when he has the angle or the down

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Speaker 1: blocks or things like that, he'll shield this guy from

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Speaker 1: the ball. But his and I think you hit the

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Speaker 1: nail on the head. His balance tends to come and

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Speaker 1: go as a blocker, and I don't know if that

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Speaker 1: is so when he plays with his bass, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he's able to get set, he's good and he's able

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Speaker 1: to show his power off. But otherwise you're right, like

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Speaker 1: he'll get twisted around while blocking and he calls him

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Speaker 1: to lose his footing. Yeah, he'll have a little trouble

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Speaker 1: to him. The second level. He could be just a

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Speaker 1: step late, and sometimes that's because his balance gets askew

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Speaker 1: and then he's trying to fight and then you see

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Speaker 1: the linebacker clear on him and stuff like that. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: but thank you for that question. It was a good question.

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Speaker 1: All right. Jay wants to know and he's saying, tell

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Speaker 1: people why you would draft Gibbs or Bijean Robinson. The

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Speaker 1: first people seem to think you can get the same

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Speaker 1: ol on that. Yeah, are those I mean, those are

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Speaker 1: the two top backs that I have. Those are the

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Speaker 1: top two. And then there's a there's a gap from me, Okay,

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Speaker 1: give me, give me your best. Do you have a

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Speaker 1: third round back that you really like? Third rounder? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Roshan Johnson out of Texas. Okay, and then to me,

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Speaker 1: ty Jay Spears out of two lane, and you know

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Speaker 1: that you know that I love him. I'm talking give

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Speaker 1: the folks. Give the folks a little thumbnail on each

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Speaker 1: one of those players. Okay. So Roshan Johnson out of

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Speaker 1: Texas thick legs. To me, he's a three down back.

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Speaker 1: He can run between the tackles, can catch the ball

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Speaker 1: out of the backfield, and he can stay in. He

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Speaker 1: shows good blitz pick up in awareness. I think his

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Speaker 1: best football is ahead of him. He's a guy that

533
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Speaker 1: was a converted quarterback to running back there at Texas.

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Speaker 1: He's not the fastest guy, but he shows enough elusiveness

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Speaker 1: to make people miss tough runner. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: good athlete. He shows the ability to hurdle, which we're

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Speaker 1: gonna miss now that Zeke's gone. Yeah, but he can

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Speaker 1: be a really good value pick in this draft. We

539
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Speaker 1: worked in a tandem back with Bijon there at Texas,

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Speaker 1: so there's not a lot of wear and tear, not

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Speaker 1: a lot of mileage like a guy like zach Scharbonat

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Speaker 1: out of UCLA right, which might be a concern for

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Speaker 1: some teams. And I love Sharbonay, but this is a

544
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Speaker 1: dude that I think you're gonna get pretty fresh sometimes.

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Speaker 1: The vision was a little bit of a question for me.

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Speaker 1: I saw him maybe take a wrong running lane where

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Speaker 1: maybe he had a chance for a bigger play, but

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Speaker 1: you know, he'll try and kick it outside. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: always have the speed to get to the edge instead

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Speaker 1: of just turning it up inside. But that might have

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Speaker 1: just been me being a little nitpicky on the guy,

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Speaker 1: trying to find a flaw. But I liked him a lot, Spears.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think anybody that's gonna watch him

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Speaker 1: against UCLA is gonna fall in love with the kid, right.

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Speaker 1: But I watched him against against USC excuse me against

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Speaker 1: I watched him versus USC Houston and Cincinnati. The Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: game was that championship game. He played in every game

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Speaker 1: I saw him, he was the best player on the

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Speaker 1: football field. He was a workhorse back for them. He's

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Speaker 1: a playmaker. He's shifty, he's elusive, he's got home run ability.

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Speaker 1: He's got a toughness about him, even though he's kind

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Speaker 1: of a smaller framed guy. He runs with an attitude,

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Speaker 1: is not shy away from contact, which I absolutely loved.

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Speaker 1: And to me, he's got good balance, good vision. Can

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Speaker 1: beat you outside, can beat you inside. I loved his

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Speaker 1: play temperament. He was always finishing. I think he's got

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Speaker 1: some third down value as a receiver as well, and

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Speaker 1: he played big in the biggest moments. They needed a

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Speaker 1: game winning type of play. They looked at Ty je Spears.

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Speaker 1: If you needed a back and you wanted to wait

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Speaker 1: till the third round and he's there, I would have

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Speaker 1: an absolute party. Yeah, I man, I think you got

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Speaker 1: both those guys nailed. The one guy that I would

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Speaker 1: like folks to consider, and I think I've said this

575
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Speaker 1: name before, is Kenny macintosh from Georgia. Yeah, is one,

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Speaker 1: and I know you know everything about him screams complete

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Speaker 1: back and it's the ability to run, the ability to finish,

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Speaker 1: the toughness. He's got size, he's six foot, he's two

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Speaker 1: oh four, he's quick, he's elusive, and he catches the

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Speaker 1: ball really well. You see big time plays down the

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Speaker 1: field with this guy. And I like the backs that

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Speaker 1: you mentioned. Spears to me as fast and eight because

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Speaker 1: you're watching him play against USC and it's like this,

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Speaker 1: keep handing him the ball and you know, and and

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00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: he's kind of you know, they had to throw to

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Speaker 1: get back in that game. But this guy makes big

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Speaker 1: time place. You see him. You see him you know,

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Speaker 1: running with the ball and and and and making and

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Speaker 1: finishing runs, and you know, the championship games, the games

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Speaker 1: that they had to have in order to win the

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Speaker 1: conference and stuff like that. So it was it was

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Speaker 1: a really really good thing. I think you got both

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Speaker 1: those guys right with that. Um this comes from uh

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Speaker 1: from alf And have you looked at Tyler Scott we Cincinnati? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is you know? To me the question he's asking, I

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Speaker 1: believe is because we were talking about all the outlier guys,

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Speaker 1: and I kind of think that Tyler Smith might be

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Speaker 1: an outlier guy himself just with a size. But if

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Speaker 1: you had a choice, like I say, well, okay, tell

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Speaker 1: me what you think about Tyler Scott actually liked would

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00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: he be a better better choice if we're looking for

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Speaker 1: one of those those shorter receivers. So I like Scott

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Speaker 1: more than I like Downs. You know, I think he

604
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: can find holes in the zone, sits well, you know,

605
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: it goes ahead and just so he'll wait for the ball.

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Speaker 1: I think he can go deep. He's a good route runner,

607
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: moves all around the formation. He's another one of those

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00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: guys like a Jalen height. He's got long legs, doesn't

609
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Speaker 1: have elite speed, but he finds a way to win.

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Speaker 1: And he gets enough separation to go ahead and stack

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Speaker 1: to the cornerback to allow himself to make the play

612
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Speaker 1: on the ball. He can make plays after the catch.

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Speaker 1: If you play off of him, he's gonna kill you.

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Speaker 1: He reads coverages well. In my opinion, he did have

615
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: some drops, but he seems to have overall solid hands

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Speaker 1: and he tracks the ball well in the air where

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Speaker 1: my notes on Scott, I like the player quite a

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Speaker 1: bit him Anna Wiley on that Cincinnati offense. We're both

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Speaker 1: fun watches for me. Yeah, I think that to me

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Speaker 1: when you talk about Tyler, Scotty's six foot, he's one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven pounds out of Cincinnati. The thing

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Speaker 1: about him is he is a really smooth route runner

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Speaker 1: in and out of breaks, really really quick, no wasted

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Speaker 1: motion at all. You're right, he could put a defender

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Speaker 1: in a bad spot right off the snap, and you know,

626
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Speaker 1: he does a great job of driving at the defender,

627
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Speaker 1: getting him off balance and then coming back to the ball,

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Speaker 1: so he's able to create that space. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think the I think alf was asking in a relationship

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Speaker 1: of Scott or with Tank Dell that kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: I think I would go with Scott yea, even though

632
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Speaker 1: I think Tank Dell is. I mean, I see the playmaker,

633
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: I see the speed, the excitement there. But I think

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Speaker 1: Tyler Scott has a little less bust potential between the

635
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Speaker 1: two and the other thing. It's just the Turpin thing

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Speaker 1: scares me, right, And I know they haven't figured that

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Speaker 1: out that no. And I think Dell is a better

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Speaker 1: player than Turpin when it comes to just being a receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a better pure receiver than Kavante Turpin

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Speaker 1: showed in college. But I like Tyler Scott quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: If you wanted to take a flower on one of

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Speaker 1: the flyer on one of these guys outside around one,

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Speaker 1: He's at the top of my list of guys that

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Speaker 1: I would probably take. Are there any of these? Is

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Speaker 1: there's any one of these? Okay, we're focusing like on

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Speaker 1: these the positions with some of the wide receivers and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Just okay, Now talking with the cowboy

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Speaker 1: angle here is do you think they're still in the

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Speaker 1: market for one of these veteran receivers? And I'm not

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Speaker 1: hearing as positive about you know, we'll see what happens

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Speaker 1: with the guy in Arizona with trade. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to mention the name, but everybody kind of

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Speaker 1: knows who I'm talking about. But where do you think

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Speaker 1: they are on the veteran receiver, and where if they

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Speaker 1: should they should they now that they've got a corner,

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Speaker 1: you know with Gilmore, should that keep them from drafting

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Speaker 1: a corner at twenty six? Or if they get one

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Speaker 1: of these wide receivers through free agency or a trade,

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Speaker 1: should that keep them from drafting a wide receiver. I

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Speaker 1: think the thing that I've loved most about the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: is and maybe last year with Tyler Smith, they kind

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00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: of zero didn't on a guy and said, look, we

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Speaker 1: need a lineman. We like him a lot. If we

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Speaker 1: don't take him here, we're not going to get the player.

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Speaker 1: So you know, maybe that was a guy where they

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Speaker 1: didn't let the board necessarily fall to them and take

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Speaker 1: player available. It ended up being a smash home run pick.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tyler's fantastic. I love the way it plays

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Speaker 1: the game, and his rookie year was great. The only

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Speaker 1: time that I've really questioned was you know, Taco. I

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Speaker 1: feel like was a pick where they said, we need

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Speaker 1: a defensive end. He's the guy that fits all the profiles.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take him. Otherwise, I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: do an excellent job of putting themselves in a position

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Speaker 1: on draft night. Where they filled a lot of their

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Speaker 1: holes and they can let the board fall to them.

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Speaker 1: And at twenty six in this draft, and we mentioned yesterday,

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Speaker 1: maybe a receiver. If they decide, hey, we need to

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Speaker 1: go get a receiver, you might need to move up

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Speaker 1: to go get that guy, because I can see a

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Speaker 1: run right before they end up picking. But I think

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Speaker 1: that they need to add a veteran, there's no question

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Speaker 1: about it. But they're still in a position where I

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Speaker 1: think you could take a wide receiver or a corner

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Speaker 1: at twenty six, and if that's the best player on

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Speaker 1: your board, even alignment, I don't think there's any position

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Speaker 1: that they think, oh my gosh, we can't take this

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00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: guy because we're so stacked here. I think you can

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Speaker 1: take any position. But they desperately needed wide receiver help.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing with tight end. Right, a lot

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00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: of fans when we talked about tight end, it's like,

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Speaker 1: why why do they need to tight end? You got

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Speaker 1: fergus shot, right, got Ferguson and hender shot. Well, you

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Speaker 1: add another one of these guys. These are all this

695
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: is a rare tight end class and you talk about

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Speaker 1: just adding a pass catcher that might be the best

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Speaker 1: player that you have available that's better than some of

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Speaker 1: these wide receivers. And Dak loves to go middle of

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Speaker 1: the field to the tight end. So how are you

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Speaker 1: helping your quarterback go ahead and do that. So I

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00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are in a good place to let

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Speaker 1: the board fall to them. And just because they made

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00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: the move for Gilmore, I think you could still take

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Speaker 1: a corner even if they were to add or make

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Speaker 1: a trade for a receiver. I think you could still

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Speaker 1: take a wide receiver because I don't know how long

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00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: that receiver could be here. Yeah, that's the thing. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you're in a situation where I think the

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Speaker 1: things I know about Will McClay and I feel like

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Speaker 1: I know Will pretty well. I don't know everything. Every

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Speaker 1: Will's followed me in Jacksonville and then he followed me here,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean Will's outstanding at what he does.

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Speaker 1: He really really is, I mean highly respected. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got a good take on all these players and stuff,

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Speaker 1: very organized the way bills, his boards and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I always know that Will likes to protect himself, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know he likes to you know, when you go

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Speaker 1: out and you make the trade for a Gilmore, you

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Speaker 1: go out and you sign somebody. You know, he's always

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Speaker 1: trying to say, Okay, I going to get a veteran

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Speaker 1: guy here. But I don't think it. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it keeps him from going and getting one of these guys.

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Speaker 1: I know, whether it's you know, I really do feel

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Speaker 1: like at twenty six you got to let that board

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Speaker 1: come to you. They've done a good job with that

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Speaker 1: and they've hit on first rounders doing it. I just

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00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: don't see them. And we did that exercise yesterday where

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Speaker 1: we started to look at, you know, where wide receivers are,

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Speaker 1: where why you know, where could the first wide receiver go?

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Speaker 1: Could you know, could it go to the Texans at twelve?

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Speaker 1: I just don't see the Cowboys moving up for you know,

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Speaker 1: I see them saying, Okay, who is the best wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: Who is the best tight end, Who is the best

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Speaker 1: running back left? Who is the best cornerback, who's the

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00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: best defensive lineman. I could see them like looking at

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Speaker 1: their board and just taking whoever that best guy is.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. If it's if Zay

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Speaker 1: Flowers is the best receiver left, Emmanuel Forbes is the

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00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: best corner left, which one you're taken or do they

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Speaker 1: go with one of the tight ends if there's one

741
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: there instead, and they just say, we're not messing with this. Damn,

742
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Speaker 1: you're making me feel bad. Now, you're making me have

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Speaker 1: to feel about you said you mentioned the tight end, right, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's say you know can because I said, okay, Kaid's there,

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Speaker 1: you know you're you're top Guy's my mayor? Right, I'll

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Speaker 1: say it's it's it's mayor. Mayor's there. Okay, there, Zay Flower. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've got a first round grade on me me just

748
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Speaker 1: looking at my board. If I gave somebody a first

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Speaker 1: round grade, my intent is to take you. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna wind address my board. Got you if if if

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00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: for example, okay, say it was say it was Johnston

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Speaker 1: from TCU Mayor and then you know, maybe one of

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00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: the corners like we were talking about Florbes or something

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00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: like that. I got Johnston and Mayor both in the

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Speaker 1: first round. I think I'm taking Johnston, okay, is when

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the wide receiver from TC And that's probably

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00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: because receivers just thin compared to the other positions. I

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00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: just think, like, to me, I feel like, like I

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00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: say it, I don't think it's that. I just that

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Speaker 1: I if the way I would stack them, if you know,

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Speaker 1: when I go one to one ninety, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have Johnson over Mayor. Do you think the

763
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: criticism for Quinton Johnston has been fair? Seems like this

764
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: kid's being picked apart right now. And I don't see

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Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff in the knocks that people

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00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: are putting on him. No. Absolutely, this guy. This guy

767
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: can make plays down the field. You watch him. There's

768
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Speaker 1: a reason why TCU got to the National Championship game.

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00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: They were good on defense, Their offensive line blocked well,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback was out standing, was a Heisman finalist, and

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Speaker 1: then they had a really good runner, you know, and

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Speaker 1: then the wide receiver. Yeah, they had good players. Man.

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Speaker 1: The thing that is a little bit, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's these wide receivers. Usually they're plug and play, and

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Speaker 1: but the Cowboys saw last year, you know, their third

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Speaker 1: round was not a plug in play. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: one of those things you kind of worry about a

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Speaker 1: little bit. So all right, well, thank everybody for the

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and make Zach feel a little bit

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Speaker 1: lot of weight, well a lot of weight, nine pounds,

847
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: it's quite a bit. And what two weeks? Yeah, two weeks?

848
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: And then he also I'm capable of it too. He

849
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: looked really, really sluggish, and he didn't do any of

850
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: the combine and he knew yesterday was you know, when

851
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: you're at the combine and you tell the world, I'm

852
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: just gonna hear, you know, And he was going back

853
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: and forth two because of something you're you're gonna there's

854
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: an update about this off the field stuff. But before

855
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: you get to that, though, my man is struggling with

856
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: a lot of things in his life and and I

857
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: mean this in the struggle of you know, trying to

858
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: kind of get things going the right direction here before

859
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: the draft. He's got some news. Go ahead and read

860
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: the news. So this is from us Seth Emerson of

861
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: the Athletic who reported that Jalen Carter entered a deal

862
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: with Athens Clark County solicitors. According to his lawyer, he

863
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: has pled no contest and he's going to receive twelve

864
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: months probation, pay a thousand dollars fine, and perform eighty

865
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: hours of community service and finish a driving course. But

866
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: there will be no jail time for Jalen Carter. Okay,

867
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: So teams now have an understanding of where he's at. Again,

868
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned Jim Nagi, Naggi said yesterday because they were

869
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: asking Naggie about about what they thought that, you know,

870
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 1: where he would go, would he be falling? Naggie says,

871
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: everybody still got this guy in the top ten. He's

872
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: the best player on the draft for me. See, that's

873
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's just completely scary to me this

874
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: time of year. Yet you're trying to figure out we

875
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: I know. I called some people yesterday, some of these

876
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: football ops, guys and gals I know around college football.

877
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: The most terrifying thing to me is when you put

878
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: your board together, and especially the way it is now,

879
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: don't know the medical and I don't know all the

880
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: background stuff unless it's reported and so you know. And

881
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: the one and I actually was talking Aisha Worsen about

882
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: this morning, is when you're putting your board together and

883
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: you don't know when a guy's sliding, when you when

884
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: a guy is you have a guy in the third round,

885
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's the fifth round and

886
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: you're sitting there going you know, and Kyle asked that question, well,

887
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: who's the best player on your board left? And it's

888
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: somebody that you're you and you get to the point

889
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: where you're like, I don't even want to say his

890
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: name anymore because you know there's something there that you

891
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: didn't know about. And I think that's the thing that

892
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: all really the media scouts this time of year. You

893
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: get a little anxious about that that like, Okay, I'm

894
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: telling you guys, you need to draft this guy. Draft

895
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: this guy, draft this guy. And then all of a

896
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: sudden he starts to slide, and then it's like, well

897
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: what happened to so and so? And then you go

898
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: back and you're like, man, this happened, This happened, This happened.

899
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean a low Collins was a really good example

900
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, absolutely Loud Collins. You know with the Cowboys,

901
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys sent people to Baton Rouge. You know,

902
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: a lot of rumor, a lot of speculation. You know,

903
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: we don't have all the answers here, but at least

904
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: we have some answers, you know, with Carter and his

905
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: situation going forward. But you're you're you're not gonna You're

906
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: not if you were top ten, I'm taking the kid.

907
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: You're not even you're not even worried about it. Look

908
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: if I mean, there are things like people are saying,

909
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: like when Todd McShay said that about him really early

910
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: before the combine, Yeah, and everybody. And I'm kind of

911
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: thinking like, man, if you're McShay, you don't say that.

912
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: You have to say that, you you mean, But there's

913
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there's people that have called me up, Scouts

914
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: have called me up and said I told you, man,

915
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: I told you. And I'm like, going, all right, I

916
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: get it. Guy's not a great guy right now, right,

917
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: you know, you got to feel comfortable with it, right

918
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: if I meet with him and I don't feel a

919
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: certain type of way after visiting with the individual, and

920
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, we can get his head

921
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: in the right place. We can put a plan in

922
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: a struggle sure for him to succeed within our organization.

923
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: The Cowboys specifically have done this before. Yeah, I'm not

924
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: going to hesitate because the talent is tremendous with a

925
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. It's rare that you find a player that athletic,

926
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: that size and the quickest way to the quarterback is

927
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: up the middle, and Jalen Carter is an outstanding football player.

928
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: So for me, now I get it. Maybe the risk

929
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: is too much. Maybe I meet with him and I

930
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: feel like, now this kid's not he's not gonna get it.

931
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: I think that he's a guy that you know, these

932
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: issues are going to follow him to the next level.

933
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: If I feel that way, then then I go I

934
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: think I'd passed in the top ten, but without knowing that.

935
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: The talent to me outweighs the risk and I think

936
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: the reward is far greater. Yeah, this guy, he's so

937
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: impressive to watch on tape. You know, I get it. Man.

938
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 1: There were times last year where we were watching all

939
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: those guys you know that were they got drafted for

940
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: George Off that day, the first National championship team, you know,

941
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: and you're sitting there like, well, who's that number eighty eight?

942
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: Who's that guy? And then that happens to you a

943
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: lot as a scout. You're watching, you're watching this tape

944
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: and Jordan Davis last year, Yeah, yeah, who's the guy

945
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: next to him? Yeah? Yeah? Who? You know, you're going,

946
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: who is that guy? Who is that guy? And there'll

947
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: be a lot of times you're sitting in that my experience,

948
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: you're sitting in that draft room and it's real quiet,

949
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: and you're watching the tape and you're sitting next to

950
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: the guy that has that area and you lean over

951
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: you go, who's that number eighty eight? And he goes,

952
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: he's he's a sophomore. Yeah, he'll be a junior next year.

953
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: You'll you can watch him next year. You know that

954
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: kind of thing. You get the whispering going on, and

955
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter's that kind of guy with me. But it's

956
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: funny that there's all these people now or like, saying

957
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: stuff about him. Though they're saying stuff, they're like, man,

958
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: you need to dig in on this gat, you know,

959
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate what happened to him. I'm glad he

960
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: put it behind him. But you you you wonder, you

961
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: wonder how many more people in this draft or that

962
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: that type of you know where you're gonna where we're

963
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: watching the tape, we're watching the players and we're going, man,

964
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: this guy's a great player, right, and then all of

965
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: a sudden it comes out that, well, he had this

966
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: against him and he had that. And that's that's the

967
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: real danger about doing the job that we do here.

968
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's putting these boards together and talking about

969
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: it without And that's why I think that you know,

970
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: it's best that you try and ask these teams if

971
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 1: you know guys around the league, or you know these

972
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: college guys. That's the one advantage that I do have

973
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: for being as long as I have in this business

974
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: that you can call those people up and say, hey,

975
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: you know what's going on with my guys? You know

976
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: what's going on with Eli Ricks at LSU it went

977
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: to Alabama and stuff like that. I mean, you kind

978
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: of figure out some things along the way. Is what's

979
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: the what's the thing what is you get ready for

980
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: this first draft? For you what's the thing that makes

981
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: you really the most nervous, the most it gives you

982
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: apprehend about doing this job. I think some of it is, yes,

983
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: the unknown of you know, the makeup and the character,

984
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: because some of these guys like they want to the desire.

985
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: How much do you love the game? Yeah? You know,

986
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: the work ethic, that stuff. You don't know just by

987
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: watching the tape. I'm looking at a kid and saying, man,

988
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: he's a freak athlete just because he's a freak athlete,

989
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: and that helps him win in college. Everybody's a freak

990
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: athlete at the NFL. Yeah, you know, that's not going

991
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: to be enough to translate. Sometimes if a guy's not

992
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: going to be willing to put in the work, I

993
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: don't know that I want him. And I had that

994
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: problem with Paxton Lynch. I had that problem with Paxton Lynch,

995
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: and people will will know that about me. When we

996
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: were doing the quarterbacks and stuff, and if you're a

997
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: fan of the Draft show, I didn't know that Paxson

998
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: Lynch was the last in and first out guy. Yeah,

999
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: I just saw a football player, you know, And you

1000
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: start to talk about how much does a guy really

1001
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: love football? Yeah, you know, I think that's the big

1002
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: issues that we deal with right now. Well, and how

1003
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: about a guy like Micah Michael Parsons. You know, a

1004
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: player you didn't get to see him rush the passer

1005
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: in college. Shout out to the Cowboys and kudos to

1006
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn. They've tapped into arguably the best pass rusher

1007
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL or a top three to five guy

1008
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: by making that move and that transition to playing him

1009
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: at edge. But you saw him as predominantly an off

1010
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: ball linebacker. So when the Cowboys drafted him in the

1011
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: first round, I'm thinking, Manna, here we go, they're taking

1012
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: another off ball linebacker that I get super excited about it. No,

1013
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: not at all. But the way that they've been able

1014
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: to make him an edge rusher and use him as

1015
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: a chess piece in a variety of different ways, he's

1016
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: turned into arguably the best defensive player in all the NFL.

1017
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: And that's something I don't think a lot of people

1018
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: were able to see leading up to that draft. Yeah,

1019
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: that's the thing when I because when the pick was made,

1020
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: I remember because of Slater and stuff like that, and yeah,

1021
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: I wanted Slater to Bolton from Missouri, the linebacker and

1022
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: I was so upset that Sir Tan got taken. See

1023
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: was my my draft crush. I got a question for

1024
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: you there, Brian, on this Carter situation. Yeah, yeah, if

1025
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: he falls, he falls about Let's just say, I was

1026
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: just gonna ask this question. If Phi Philly has the

1027
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: number tenth pick, Yeah, do they take him or do

1028
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: they They're on the phone trying to get some more picks.

1029
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: They they've got, they've got. I was thinking, they've got

1030
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: ten thirty and sixty two. So two in the first

1031
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 1: one and the second, yeah, and then one of the third,

1032
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: and then they don't they have two in the seven,

1033
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: so they have a long gap. I was sitting there

1034
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: thinking that if he falls to ten, yeah, knowing what

1035
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: they have, did they take him? Well, they just they

1036
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: just resigned Fletcher Cox. Yeah, but they lost Hargrave right right,

1037
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: So then you've got two Georgie guys next to each.

1038
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, Man, I'll tell you what I I thought

1039
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: you were gonna ask the question. I thought you're gonna

1040
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: ask the question if he got past somebody at say

1041
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: he got past fifteen up, will you go You're gonna go?

1042
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you go? Is he the is he Okay,

1043
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: is he the only player in the draft that you

1044
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: would go for? You know I'm going for Jackson Smith

1045
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: and Jigba. We all know that I'm going for that guy.

1046
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: He's the best receiver in the draft. You need a receiver,

1047
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: Go get him. Would you run to the Star if

1048
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: we picked him, they'll already be here. That's a Kyle

1049
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeoman special. But but I'll do what every year? Would

1050
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: you would you? Would you go up for any of

1051
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: these corners? Porter, I'd go for Gonzales. Yeah, I'd go

1052
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: for Porter. I think Porter is the best guy. I

1053
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: go up for Porter. Otherwise I'd wait and let let's

1054
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: unless there's a run, which might happen, right, you get

1055
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: a run on these guys and you're like, man, you

1056
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: know Gonzalez is by far our best guy left. We

1057
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 1: gotta go get him. Otherwise I'd probably stay at twenty

1058
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: six and just let the board fall to me. But

1059
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: I'd go up and go get Porter because I think

1060
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna be that good. I think I think that

1061
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: it's interesting because and you you brought up and here

1062
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: in our final few minutes, you brought up the name

1063
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: Addison from USC Do you want to include him as

1064
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: an outlier guy. Yeah, he is. Because he's small, he's undersized.

1065
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: He definitely like six foot. He's not exactly like, he's

1066
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: not Zay Flowers. He's not tanked Dell, but he's skinny.

1067
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: The thing about him is his route running ability is

1068
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: so good that he's able to win and he's able

1069
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: to get separation. But there are times like that's the

1070
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: dude I've got the concern with. You watch him against

1071
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: for Gen right, Nashon Wright's brother at Oregon State, six

1072
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: foot two, big long pisner. Yeah, he made his day

1073
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: or night I should say they played a night game.

1074
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: I think it was at Oregon State. He worked Jordan

1075
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: Addison and that was a guy. At times, I think

1076
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: he can struggle to get off tight press coverage because

1077
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: he's a smaller player. But his route running so good.

1078
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: You watch him in certain games he just dominates, like

1079
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: against Utah before he got hurt in the regular season matchup.

1080
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: If he doesn't get injured, I don't think USC loses

1081
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: that football game. He was and that was against Clark Phillips, right,

1082
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: who is also going to be probably a second round

1083
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: pick from Utah, and he was. He was outstanding in

1084
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: that football game. So Addison's very I got some questions

1085
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 1: about Addison. He's probably the one I have the toughest

1086
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: read on. He's my number one wide receiver and I

1087
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: and I that's my problem. That's my problem that I have.

1088
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: I have confidence in who I who I have my board,

1089
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: But there's that did I see this guy the right way?

1090
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's terrible to have a little doubt about

1091
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: because if you have doubt, you shouldn't have him on.

1092
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have him as your best. You know what,

1093
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: I've see him, I got Addison Johnson. You're right about

1094
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba. See the thing that worries me about

1095
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba is his health this last year. I

1096
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: get that, you know, is it is? It gonna be

1097
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: one of those things and I always am, I gonna

1098
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: have to I know it didn't happen to him before,

1099
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: but it happened to him last year. And I get that.

1100
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: And I think that's what a lot of people's issue is,

1101
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: just the soft tissue. I think he was he knew

1102
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: I'm NFL ready, yeah, and he tried to come back.

1103
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: I got to go to that game against Iowa and

1104
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: watch them play live at the shoe. He tried to

1105
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: come back for that one, and you could tell he

1106
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: wasn't quite right and he retw the hamstring. From that

1107
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: point on, I think he just shut it down and said,

1108
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for the pros. Why am I coming

1109
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: to the realization there's not any players I would trade

1110
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: up for. I don't know. Do you think that maybe

1111
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: it's a lack of like, I don't know, I mean special,

1112
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, that's what I'm saying. I'm an

1113
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: eat guys. I think you got a lot of good player.

1114
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of really good players. I

1115
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: think you mentioned Porter Gonzalez. I love Wilson from Texas

1116
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: Tech Edge, the Edge, I love Bijean Robinson, the quarterbacks.

1117
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: You know you're you're probably not gonna do anything. Why

1118
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: am I just gonna let this board come to me here? Yeah,

1119
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: because I think that you've got a lot of I

1120
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: think you got a lot of good players. I don't

1121
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: know that there's any guys that you're like, Man, that

1122
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: dude's great, we gotta go get him. And to Beemer's point,

1123
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter would be one of those guys like that's

1124
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: an elite talent. If he starts to fall, he's too

1125
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: good to let somebody else have. He needs to be

1126
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: ours thinking of pain. To Ron Payne, I had him

1127
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: like as a top four or five guy there that

1128
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: we hear he came out of Alabama and means at

1129
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: what's seventeen to the commanders, right, something like that. But

1130
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, you got a point. I mean,

1131
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: so a lot of these guys are so close with

1132
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: the receivers, with the corners. You know, the gap between

1133
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: these guys is not overly huge to where you're thinking, man, Okay,

1134
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: if if this guy gets taken, fine, we got a

1135
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: fallback option. Yeah. I'm just kind of it's it's it's

1136
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: fascinating as you as you guys and gals billage boards

1137
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: out there, just kind of think about who you got

1138
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: and then you know, be confident to put them in.

1139
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: I know there's some of these guys you're going to

1140
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,479
Speaker 1: struggle with. You know, I'm struggling with some of these, uh,

1141
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: these outliers. But that's what the draft shows all about.

1142
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out, all right. That's uh, that's all

1143
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: our time for the day. Kind I could do this

1144
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: show all day, I really could. I loved talking about

1145
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: the Draft. But we'll be back next Wednesday here on

1146
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: the Draft Show to to once again. We'll be again

1147
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: one week closer. We'll be one week. We'll have some

1148
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: of these pro days knocked out as well. Have an

1149
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: idea of some of these guys have improved some of

1150
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: their times, maybe some guys stood on some of their

1151
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: times from the combine, But we'll sort it all out

1152
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: for you, for my guy, for Zach Walchuk, for Chris Beam,

1153
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: for Aisha Morrison, Kyle Yeoman's Bobby Bell. Thank you guys

1154
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: for always letting us come in and we're always here

1155
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: to try and investigate and educate you guys, and we'll

1156
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: see you next week on the Draft Show. This has

1157
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

1158
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,880
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