WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: Married at First Sight 2001

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Pod meets Tworld, a podcast that began with

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars, wandered through castles, survived beaches, and

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<v Speaker 1>spent an entire season debating the social hierarchy of cocktail parties,

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<v Speaker 1>and along the way, Will and I riffed on what

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was an entirely hypothetical observation, maybe arranged marriage

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the worst idea. Well, apparently our producers were listening.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we're watching Married at First Sight season twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>a show where complete strangers meet at the altar, say

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and only then begin the awkward process of

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<v Speaker 1>discovering whether they have anything whatsoever in common. We are Wilfredell,

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<v Speaker 1>who loves love and believes marriage should be about the marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>not the wedding, and Rather Strong, who also loves love

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<v Speaker 1>and made one observation about arranged marriage and is now

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<v Speaker 1>being forced to defend it for an entire television season.

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<v Speaker 1>Join us as experts, therapists, family members, and complete strangers

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<v Speaker 1>all attempt the oldest social experiment in human history with confessionals.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Pod meets Twirled.

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<v Speaker 2>All or Nothing. How's it going, Will.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good rider? How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>You're excited? To be moving out of the city.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I have my bags packed and I

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<v Speaker 4>will jump right into an arranged marriage to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the hell out of the city.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I had no idea that when we riffed

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<v Speaker 1>on this and we said, like, wish there should be

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<v Speaker 1>a thing where there's a panel of people that pay

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<v Speaker 1>this exists, and this show exists. You have watched the

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<v Speaker 1>show before. I have never even heard of this show.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense that the show exists. I am so

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<v Speaker 1>on board with it. But tell me your history.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your history with Merit at first sight?

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<v Speaker 4>I started as Sue and I think found it during

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<v Speaker 4>the pandemic maybe or how young.

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<v Speaker 2>Has it been? So twenty seasons?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I think so, but you know they do two

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<v Speaker 4>or three a year. It's only been around for four

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<v Speaker 4>or five years. I think, oh, okay, okay, as my guess,

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<v Speaker 4>and this came out. I started watching at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>So this came out around the same time as Love

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<v Speaker 4>is Blind on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 3>This was first.

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<v Speaker 2>This was first. This was first because I have seen

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<v Speaker 2>Love is Blind.

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<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, my son got really into it last

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<v Speaker 1>year and right around the time that one guy quoted

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<v Speaker 1>to Panga without giving I mean quoted Corey into Panga

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<v Speaker 1>without giving them credit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whatever, that that we were watching it around that.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy got really into it, and I didn't really like

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<v Speaker 1>that show that much. It seems like a better version.

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<v Speaker 3>Way better than Love Is Blind. This is way way

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<v Speaker 3>better to me than.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you and your wife started watching it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was buying television in the US for twelve years.

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<v Speaker 4>Married at First Sight has been on okay, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but I believe we didn't start right at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we did.

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<v Speaker 4>We again, I haven't seen them all. We weren't one

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<v Speaker 4>of those people where it's like, ooh, Married at First Sight.

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<v Speaker 4>But we've definitely done probably five or six seasons of

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<v Speaker 4>this show. Yeah, and there's some of them where I think, like, legit,

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<v Speaker 4>the people are still together and have kids and every

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<v Speaker 4>other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's fascinating, man, I'm so sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited to see it because it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming from the Bravo verse, from coming from in the City,

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<v Speaker 1>which was you know, the sense like the judgment, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the process of judging, which we talked about, is

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<v Speaker 1>like part of the fun, right, You're getting into the gossip,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of judging you're comparing yourself to the people

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<v Speaker 1>on screen. It was all sort of, you know, intentionally superficial.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the point is like it's not really that big

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<v Speaker 1>of a deal. The drama, the stakes are.

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<v Speaker 2>Low in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating, Like, I am so curious how because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not only are the people themselves weighing in on like

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<v Speaker 1>what they're looking for in a partner, what they think

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<v Speaker 1>about love, and we're getting to see that play out

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<v Speaker 1>whether what they're saying matches their actions and their behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>we also have this like these experts weighing in and

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<v Speaker 1>making the match making decisions, and like, I'm really curious

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<v Speaker 1>about some of their choices, Like I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with them.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it always these same two people or well, no,

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<v Speaker 4>these so they might have been on for a few seasons,

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<v Speaker 4>these were not the ones I knew.

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<v Speaker 3>The ones that I knew. There was literally a woman

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<v Speaker 3>her name.

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<v Speaker 4>Was doctor Pepper, so that's not even a joke. Doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Pepper was on for a long time. And then there

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<v Speaker 4>was a pastor who was the other one, so there's

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<v Speaker 4>like a spiritual side to it as well, and actually

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<v Speaker 4>sat next to him on a plane once.

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<v Speaker 3>No way, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't want to times like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>bother him on the plane, but I literally sat next

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<v Speaker 4>to him on a flight once, the guy the guy

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<v Speaker 4>from But no, there, it's it's super interesting. I'd love

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<v Speaker 4>to know all the criteria. They go over it a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit, but I'm sure they go very much in depth.

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<v Speaker 3>But I have to imagine from everything I've heard about

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<v Speaker 3>the dating culture nowadays, of everything everybody meeting online, they're

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<v Speaker 3>all dating apps. People are lying. It's terrible. I bet

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<v Speaker 3>you there's a ton of people that are like.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want I don't want to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to have a tribunal if people go

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<v Speaker 4>pick myself. Yeah, I mean I imagine that's that to

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<v Speaker 4>me is no weirder than all the dating that got

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<v Speaker 4>with the apps and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the problem with the apps is that

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<v Speaker 1>like it, they operate on this assumption that you can

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<v Speaker 1>like explicate your likes and dislikes, and and that those

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<v Speaker 1>that aligning with another person, like oh, we listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the same music, we watch the same TV shows, we

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<v Speaker 1>do the same active that that is like what makes

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<v Speaker 1>a good relationship or makes love? And I think it

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<v Speaker 1>can but I definitely do not think it's that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I actually I'm on the line now. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>the speed dating model, which again is opposite of this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know within thirty seconds whether you will

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<v Speaker 1>ever ever be able to kiss a person have a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with them. And I think it's way more instinctual.

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<v Speaker 2>Than we want to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, I would love to intellectualize and say,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love my wife for X Y D and

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<v Speaker 1>I do, right, But I don't think that's like the

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<v Speaker 1>real reason, like the real reason for whatever reason my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and I at some point we just connect it

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<v Speaker 1>and we rationalize the parts.

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<v Speaker 2>That don't work, do you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we all are so delusional.

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<v Speaker 1>I think humans are so delusional, like fundamentally, and we

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<v Speaker 1>want to convince ourselves we're in control when we're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think we're just animals, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>so instinctual, and I think we rationalize whatever decision we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like make.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we also lie to ourselves all the time so

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<v Speaker 4>much so it's the problem is that you're on a

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<v Speaker 4>dating side or whatever, you might think you're being honest

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<v Speaker 4>with what you want or you might think you know

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<v Speaker 4>yourself well enough, but at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of other people looking at you going like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it's interesting you said that to me, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>believe that for a second is probably going to be

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<v Speaker 4>more beneficial than you trying to self actualize what you're

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<v Speaker 4>looking for in a partner.

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<v Speaker 3>And so there is something too.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I always it's a weird correlation, but my

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<v Speaker 4>voiceover auditions. I if I am left to my own

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<v Speaker 4>devices and I do a voiceover audition in my booth

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<v Speaker 4>by myself, I do two takes and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm the man, and I walk out so good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm great at this.

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<v Speaker 4>Whereas when I have a booth director and somebody knows

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<v Speaker 4>what they're doing, they'll be like, what the hell was

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<v Speaker 4>that take?

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<v Speaker 3>And they're right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of those things where occasionally you need somebody

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<v Speaker 4>just going you're not as awesome as you think. You're

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<v Speaker 4>also maybe not as crappy as you think, and so

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<v Speaker 4>you need somebody there kind of going, no, this is

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<v Speaker 4>maybe we need to look at this, or maybe you did,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe it seems like what you said was was this,

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<v Speaker 4>but it sounds like you really look looking for this,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're going to try this because obviously you're now

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<v Speaker 4>thirty five, you've never had a steady relationship, so what

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<v Speaker 4>you're doing isn't working, So let me give it a

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<v Speaker 4>shot and see what happens it. Part of me is like, brilliant, brilliant, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I get out of my hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I would totally love that advice too, I think. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know if it works, Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it matters.

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<v Speaker 1>But even after this one episode, we've only done seen

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<v Speaker 1>three couples, and I think it's a complete roll of

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<v Speaker 1>the dice.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, there's well there's some of them where I think

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's a roll of the dice at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's doomed. I think it's doomed from the start.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm so curious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, well, okay, so the show begins with

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<v Speaker 1>a preview of the entire season.

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<v Speaker 2>I skipped this. I did not want to watch this, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want spoilers, man, I also don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be teased with like mister X.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate trailers.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to love trailers when I was a kid. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if I hear about a movie that is good, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch the trailer. I do not want to know

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer. It's like, oh, if I'm a and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that, that means I might not like. But I

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<v Speaker 1>I basically get my movie taste from people's recommendations, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I do not want to see because if I

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<v Speaker 1>see a trailer, I remember every minute, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching the movie, I'm like, oh, I don't got

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<v Speaker 1>to the park where this happens, So I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Even worse, when they show something in the trailer that's

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<v Speaker 4>not in the movie and then wait a minute, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing that's by death.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to do that all the time the nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember, because they would just be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that would joke work, but we're not going I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>so pissed off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's an extra footage that they just decided to

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<v Speaker 4>put in. It's like, come on, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So our show opens. We meet Marissa. She loves love,

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<v Speaker 1>been to six weddings.

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<v Speaker 3>And she says eight later, so she's already.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't trust her, I don't trust.

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<v Speaker 1>We meet Felippe, who says he's been a goo most

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<v Speaker 1>of his life.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard this phrase. Have you heard this? Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's just us us who have heard of it.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy's funny, man.

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<v Speaker 1>He talks about how he's attractive now because he's worked

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<v Speaker 1>out and he's getting hit on NonStop because women are

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<v Speaker 1>just a superficiless man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, it's also just.

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<v Speaker 3>It's thought about your looks.

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<v Speaker 2>He's This guy's funny, he's got a great personality.

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<v Speaker 3>But do you also notice that he cannot stay still?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean he's like moving the whole time and

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<v Speaker 4>shaking around. I mean, I don't know if he's ADHD

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever, but this guy cannot sit still.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's a he's a mover and a shaker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and he's definitely like found his call in

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<v Speaker 1>with a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's so like he.

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<v Speaker 3>Seems to be right and right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we meet Adam, who we will find out

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<v Speaker 1>later as a tech guy. There's Mecca who cleans porta

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<v Speaker 1>potties right out of the gate. I'm like, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on there, Devin. We only meet for a second. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a professional rugby player. I guess we'll get back to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Rugby is a sport, by the way, Yeah that's just

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<v Speaker 4>that's Is there rugby in America?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, it's a not hugely involved in it, but watching it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he's technically probably cricket in America, but we

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>We find out Felipe runs an Italian restaurant that he

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<v Speaker 1>brings dates to his own restaurant, and they have this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation where Felipe talks about forgetting.

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<v Speaker 2>That he cheated. It's just the weirdest thing. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>so you just drank too much and then.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like I didn't even know about it till years later.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you not know you cheated on somebody?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe he's like he just lied to himself

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<v Speaker 1>and like believed his own lie after a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, Okay, weird?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>We meet Bella Jolie who wants to be a leading

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<v Speaker 1>lady Courtney who used to be a bodybuilder.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we'll find out more about her in another episode, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We get Adam's backstory about being a tech bro lives

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<v Speaker 1>in a cabin jet Skis this guy's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he doesn't jet ski. He rips the jet skis.

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<v Speaker 3>We just ripped. We just ripped jet skis man.

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<v Speaker 1>So he said sourking about how he used to want

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<v Speaker 1>to he was always serious and got tired of girls

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<v Speaker 1>who parted, and that he's really into discipline.

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<v Speaker 2>This comes up a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he sits down to play piano. First's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>warm his fingers up. We at the fire, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he breaks into the Moonlight Sonata, and then we get

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<v Speaker 1>this guy Nick, who was like, you're really good at

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<v Speaker 1>thet but that's a long song, and he's like, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just play one more.

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<v Speaker 3>Just I don't think Adam.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think Adam needs a spouse because he's so

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<v Speaker 4>in love with himself. With him, Oh, this guy is

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<v Speaker 4>one giant, literal six foot five giant walking red flag.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there was so easy to see some of

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<v Speaker 4>the comments this dude makes. You're just like, are you

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<v Speaker 4>kidding me? With some of the ship you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's so funny because the way the episode starts,

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<v Speaker 1>when they start presenting him, you're like, why hasn't this

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<v Speaker 1>guy been able to find somebody he's a catch, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're like, dang, yeah, this is why.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty it's not the.

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<v Speaker 3>Biggest one for me. Yeah, it's where I was like, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's a little it's a bummer. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was a downfall. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was interesting, like he's really figured out a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of his life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, no, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be around anybody else, Like you don't want anybody else's.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, especially if you're not going to rip jet skis man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>We get the ladies doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Shots, shots, shots, shot shots.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love that. Who is it is it? Marissa?

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<v Speaker 3>That's like everyone hates them, everyone hates them. If you

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<v Speaker 3>can do It's like, I haven't done a shot shots anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I was disgusted.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to fake doing shots. I was just like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you throw it over your shoulder.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do shots when I was twenty two. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean again, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, dude, it's the dumbest thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>You're still doing shots in your thirties. You need to

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<v Speaker 3>look at yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just my big agree man, it's not a not

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<v Speaker 1>a great, great lifestyle choice.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, then we get our first matchmaking session with

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<v Speaker 1>Paul and doctor Lisa. I would like to know a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about these people in the show is

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<v Speaker 1>giving me. I mean, they just agreed, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they've been hosting for a while, so.

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<v Speaker 2>But I kind of I don't know, Like I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to know a little bit more about, like where they

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<v Speaker 2>come from.

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<v Speaker 3>What they said the same thing because he said I

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<v Speaker 3>was a matchmaker on the UK version, Okay, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, but are you a professional matchmaker?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any Do you just talk together like

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<v Speaker 2>a couple's coach too? I was like, is that a

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<v Speaker 2>like how is that different than a couple's therapist? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like a coach? Yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor, a doctor of what, Like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>your first name.

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<v Speaker 3>Could have done research, seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll change my name legal the dr period exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure we could have done research and

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<v Speaker 1>been professional podcasters, but.

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<v Speaker 3>That's no fun. We like to jump in naked.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's so Maddy to do.

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<v Speaker 3>She can tell us about it later, I'll say, so,

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Carrick Brunson from Merredith Firstite is certified.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a certified life coach. Okay, and trained under prominent

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<v Speaker 4>matchmaking experts.

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<v Speaker 2>Certified life coaches certified.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a life coach organization out there? I need

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<v Speaker 1>to make my own life.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach organization and give out certificates.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need to write her. You're now certified. Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>I just certified you a life coach.

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<v Speaker 4>You're good to go if I just started the LLC

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<v Speaker 4>Will's Life Coach Certification dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, all right, Uh so he's a life coach

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<v Speaker 2>and what else?

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<v Speaker 3>What is she do? We know what she does. Doctor

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<v Speaker 3>Lisa Paz is a relationship expert, board certified sex therapist,

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<v Speaker 3>and licensed marriage and family therapists based in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>So she has some creds. Okay, so she's a sex

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<v Speaker 2>therapist and okay, that's a yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'm really curious about this whole process. I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, I'm dubious about I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I all have to see. I mean I know

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<v Speaker 1>I have to see because.

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<v Speaker 4>Therapist is Hopefully they don't start with the same question

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<v Speaker 4>that Freud always did, which is tell me about your mother,

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<v Speaker 4>because I think that would be an entirely.

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<v Speaker 3>Different thing I'm talking about. But yeah, no, we again.

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<v Speaker 3>All I can tell you from the previous episode of

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<v Speaker 3>previous seasons that I've watched is some of these couples

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<v Speaker 3>have been are still together and have kids and have

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<v Speaker 3>been together for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, some of these couples have worked out. But

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<v Speaker 1>is it better than chance? That's my question.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great question because I don't know. If you

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<v Speaker 3>pick fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Couples for a show or whatever and two of them

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<v Speaker 4>stay together, isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>That just odds? Isn't that actually when you suck you do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder, like, I wonder if somebody's done the and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to do it now because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to ruin the show, but I do think at

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<v Speaker 1>some point we should see if somebody has written an

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<v Speaker 1>article or done the stats and like said, how much

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<v Speaker 1>this show has actually resulted.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe Susan and I looked it up once. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember what it was, but we had that same

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<v Speaker 3>question because there was things where it's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>you had ten couples on one of them is still together?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you need experts for that or can you just

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<v Speaker 3>throw darts?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't remember, but you don't remember. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, I honestly don't. I don't remember what else.

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<v Speaker 4>If memory serves, they had it was, it was they

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<v Speaker 4>had a much bigger ratio of not working out than

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<v Speaker 4>they did working out.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>My instinct is it's chance. Like that's my sense of

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<v Speaker 2>the world is that you could just you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, pick somebody in the same sort of category, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that's like that you're of the same age, in

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<v Speaker 1>the same sort of in the same like worldview.

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<v Speaker 2>Ish, did you see that? Just what?

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<v Speaker 3>They have an eighteen percent success rate?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what is how does that compare to like

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<v Speaker 1>other dating apps or.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the world?

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<v Speaker 2>What the world?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, eighteen percent doesn't seem good like at all? No,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, got my god, if you're if you gonna

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<v Speaker 3>come out of the doctor with an eighteen percent chance

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<v Speaker 3>to live, you're right in your will that day. So

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that it's like, I mean again, you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>are these what does it take to be an expert?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he certified a life coach and trained under

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<v Speaker 3>prominent matchmaking experts. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I kind of like for the first all right,

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<v Speaker 1>here we got more stats. Seventy nine couples have been matches,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen couples are still together.

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<v Speaker 4>That seems kind of like a terrible ratio. But that's

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<v Speaker 4>a great question.

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<v Speaker 3>What I mean, what's the control?

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have a control? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And how many how many you know dates do people

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<v Speaker 3>normally go on before they find a part?

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<v Speaker 2>But it's interesting because when they were doing their matchmaking

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<v Speaker 2>sessions and discussing these couples, I agreed with their insights.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that they were picking up on kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the right things about these people. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting because that's I think that's the fun of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, right, see now that plays.

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<v Speaker 2>Out or not?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I have a bit of a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not a problem, but it's a weird way

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<v Speaker 4>to look at it where and I get why because

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<v Speaker 4>it's TV. But nobody's unattractive, I know, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like it seems like you should just go pick a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of people I mean that are average people and

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<v Speaker 4>just go marry you know, try to marry them off.

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<v Speaker 3>Connect to actual people, and I think.

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<v Speaker 2>That would just be an immediate like people just wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But aren't these aren't people that look like this?

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<v Speaker 4>Aren't the vast majority of people that look like this

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<v Speaker 4>the people that get matched on these these apps anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>because they're good looking, they're successful. I mean, isn't the

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<v Speaker 4>point like the people that the apps are like they

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<v Speaker 4>never match me with anybody. I can never find anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody swipes left or right, whatever the hell the way

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<v Speaker 4>is on me.

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<v Speaker 2>It does seem to be that a conceit of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Are a tenant of the show is that these aren't

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<v Speaker 1>people who are having a hard time finding dates.

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<v Speaker 2>These are people who are having a hard time finding

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<v Speaker 2>a life partner, right right, right? Yea almost said some

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<v Speaker 2>version of that.

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<v Speaker 1>They all said some version of like basically, I could

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<v Speaker 1>get late if I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for a marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for you know, And that I think that

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<v Speaker 2>is the class of people for the show, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, it's not a show that's just finding

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<v Speaker 1>love or finding it's finding a life partner, it's marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's about like I'm gonna we're gonna find you

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<v Speaker 2>the person who's going to be your monogamous, lifelong partner.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that I think it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's what I mean, like part of me. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>love to see the people that don't get swiped on.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't get dates.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody wants to I don't have this. I have an

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<v Speaker 4>average job. I'm an average guy, and nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 4>date me. I want to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Show married a first sight. I'll go edition.

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<v Speaker 5>Sponsored by to get married wearing uds because all there again,

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<v Speaker 5>they're all beautiful people, and I get it, it's you

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<v Speaker 5>have to do it, I understand, But I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean also because I had the same question about Love

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<v Speaker 2>is Blind.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait a minute, no, And it was

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<v Speaker 1>like but because no one would do the show otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you literally were doing Love is Blind, and

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<v Speaker 1>and that is even more like the point of the

0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.600
<v Speaker 1>show should be that there are some ugly ducklings thrown

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<v Speaker 1>in because it's about their personality, or people that are overweight,

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<v Speaker 1>but there never are.

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<v Speaker 2>They never are. They're always beautiful, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, but that's.

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<v Speaker 4>With them without looking at them, and then you actually

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<v Speaker 4>fall in love with them. It doesn't matter who runs out.

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<v Speaker 2>But that show makes no sense to me. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a whole other conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah we have. We'll talk about that later, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>But this one, we're gonna trust the experts at least

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<v Speaker 1>a little while and see how it plays out.

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<v Speaker 2>They've chosen Adam and Marissa for each other. We learned,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that Adam wants someone fit, he's disciplined, he's rich.

0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.919
<v Speaker 1>Paul asks Adam that goes out to Adam's cabin and

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<v Speaker 1>asks him the obvious, like why are you here? And

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<v Speaker 1>Adam says, basically what we were saying is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not hard to meet people, it's just hard to find

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<v Speaker 1>the right person. And Paul says the sentence, you're very controlled,

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<v Speaker 1>which I didn't know how he meant it, like whether

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<v Speaker 1>that means a compliment or what. But that is to

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<v Speaker 1>me the biggest red flag.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, and to me, controlling, that's what I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to say. To me, it's saying he's controlled is

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<v Speaker 4>one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's controlling is the thing that's if he said one

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<v Speaker 4>more time, either the word train or where he's like, oh,

0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.480
<v Speaker 4>I've taught a number of people how to be great athletes.

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<v Speaker 3>What what does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, it's there's so many red flags.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the guy who like gets obsessed with like

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<v Speaker 1>teaching his German shepherd, like all the commands in German.

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<v Speaker 2>So he can do all that, and it's just like okay, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>like you you've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got power, Yeah, you got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You are.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the guy to me that checks your phone

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<v Speaker 4>and tells you to give me your phone and I

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<v Speaker 4>want to see who you're dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this, there are so many red He's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be counting the calories of what she is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, like that, she says, the one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>He says that by the end of the episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>watching him reveal himself throughout the course of this episode

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<v Speaker 1>was fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Fascinating because you're like, yeah, you are.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so it's and it's an interesting study, like in

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<v Speaker 1>how you know you're like, oh, man, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the red flags just keep popping up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so Paul does.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing where he makes him call this girl that

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<v Speaker 1>he's been saying he's been on like five days with her,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh, I could just send her a

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<v Speaker 1>text but he makes him make the call. And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this was interesting because she was upset. You know,

0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:24.399
<v Speaker 1>she's like, my question.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I have a theory about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because this is the only person we saw where

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<v Speaker 4>this they specifically went another way to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, you need to call, you need to do this,

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<v Speaker 3>you need to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't want to give the theory away right now,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'll give it away at the end of it,

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<v Speaker 4>because it comes back at the end and Okay, now

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna let you know what I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Because I thought the point of this was just that.

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<v Speaker 1>What he thought of as a casual situation with this woman,

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>this woman clearly thought a little bit more of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that Paul sort of wanted to prove that to

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<v Speaker 1>him by being like, you have to have this comment.

0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:58.639
<v Speaker 2>You have to break up with this girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that he was surprised by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that she wouldn't have been cool with just a text

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<v Speaker 1>that she was upset.

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<v Speaker 2>Indicates I think that he's a little delusion.

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<v Speaker 1>We all are, you know, Like at this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, yeah, dude, that's like I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have found themselves in a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>they think it's casually, the other person thinks it a

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<v Speaker 1>little more seriously. And I think that's especially if men

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<v Speaker 1>and women, and you know, on the male side, they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're staying out, you sleep together every once in a while,

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and the woman's like hoping that maybe it'll be a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This was like a classic situation where I'm like, dude,

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.399
<v Speaker 1>you're delusional about what was going on there. So I

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 1>thought that was a kind of an interesting moment. So

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<v Speaker 1>then Paul describes Adam as a knight in shining armor

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<v Speaker 1>and he has.

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<v Speaker 2>To take the armor off and that he is, uh and.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be easier to rip a jet ski about the armor.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the cool part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Then Paul, in his meeting with Lisa says they

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 2>talk about how he has.

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<v Speaker 1>This giant cat. He wants a woman who can handle cats.

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<v Speaker 1>Marissa loves dogs but allergic to cats. Would find out

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<v Speaker 1>learn that her parents had a messy divorce. She no

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>longer talks to her dad and Lisa. Paul call Adam

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<v Speaker 1>the tin man without a heart.

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 2>So now we have this metal.

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>He's a knight in shining armor. He's a tin man

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<v Speaker 1>without a heart. He's got the heart exterior.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, man, a lot of ways of saying

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 4>this guy might be an issue.

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like you're you're like RoboCop, Like what with

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 3>the metal outside? You know you?

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 4>It's like what And Marissa, by the way, we figured

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 4>it out soon and I were watching and we're like, God,

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:37.119
<v Speaker 4>who does she remind us of?

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Who does she remind us of? Totally reminds us of

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.199
<v Speaker 3>a more grown up Millie Bobby Brown? Oh yeah, and

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 3>so yeah, we were like, that's who she reminds us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So I guess the idea is that she's

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna open at him up. She's gonna make him more emotional,

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:56.120
<v Speaker 1>more vulnerable, and reveal his his his heart or his.

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 4>It's exactly what you want in a relationship as a

0:24:57.960 --> 0:24:59.919
<v Speaker 4>partner that's going to come in to try to change you.

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting that the matchmakers are sort of relying

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:04.679
<v Speaker 2>on that, but maybe I don't know.

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:05.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know either.

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>But then Adam talks about how his parents are hiking

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>in Iceland. They're not they're not gonna come, his sister

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>thinks he's crazy, his grandmother is refusing to fly.

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't think anybody wanted to be involved anyone from

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 4>his family wanted to be involved in it. I think

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.439
<v Speaker 4>I think not only does he done well. This is

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 4>my totally just complete speculation. I think not only has

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:27.400
<v Speaker 4>he done well in business, but I think he grew

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 4>up with money, and I think probably his parents are like, dude,

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 4>we're not gonna we're not gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Be considering that they're on like a three country Yeah,

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>He's like, that's always the way they are, you know,

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 1>like that kind of thing.

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 4>So my guess is he grew up with money and

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 4>they're like, dude, we're not going on to watch you

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 4>get married on.

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 2>A reality show.

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Like it's not going to happen, right, So because for

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 3>nobody to show up, I mean, come on. Yeah.

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's interesting because then we cut to her and

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>she's got not a dissimilar situation.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, she no longer talks to her dad.

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, we get kiss kissed me by

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>sixpence on the suir while she walks on the steps,

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a little on the nose, say a little a little

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>bit of a I would say, come on, guys, we

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>can do it better. We can do better than I

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 1>actually recreating she's all that never got that band really

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>this is a sweet song.

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 3>Never got it.

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I saw them live went back in the day and

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>they used to do the song they do a cover

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>of there she goes yea was yeah yeah.

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Their next big show.

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, okay, okay, okay, all right.

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>She gets Marissak, walks down the stairs and then she

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>gets a package from Adam which is a pickleball, ski

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.880
<v Speaker 1>goggles and a kill switch.

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:42.679
<v Speaker 3>Worst gift package. For first, I was like, is this

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 3>a dog leash?

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 2>That's what I thought it was at first.

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Put this sleech, which also kind of.

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Works, But I was like, did he just give her

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 1>a dog leash? And I thought at first maybe because

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh he wanted the dogs. They talked

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>both dog about wanting animals and do you want somebody?

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>But that was like, yeah, maybe that's really about And

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>then it's a kill switch, which also just sounds weird,

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 1>but it just jet.

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Ski kill switch because that's the jet Ski.

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 6>Man.

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 2>This is this is.

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Classic, Like that you think that these activities are going

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to excite somebody.

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, I'm sorry, there's nothing even close to sentimentality.

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:26.719
<v Speaker 4>No, like something something, a flow, anything that's reeks of

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 4>some sentimentalism.

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I care about what you think. Yes, like literally say

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 2>these are my activities. I'm gonna teach you how to

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 2>do them. You better like them, you.

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Get them what I'm into.

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Who cares what you're all about doing? Ask her about herself?

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>And I get it.

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the point of this exercise. But it's interesting that

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 1>the other other couples didn't do this. So is this

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>something they've done before?

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 2>Do you know?

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's all they always do, like the early gift.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 4>But I mean it's also supposed to be like a

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 4>little bit for us, a little bit for you, like

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 4>the diet.

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 2>He gives him a drama.

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's like we're gonna start our We're gonna start

0:27:58.560 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 4>our story together.

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 3>And I wrote the first page.

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, He's like, these are goggles, Adam. I'm gonna teat

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:11.640
<v Speaker 3>you pickle ball.

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna teach you in the back of my jet ski.

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 2>You don't get to drive, get in the back.

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to train you to be an athlete. Like

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 3>what the hell?

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 2>Dude over at his camp. He opens it up and

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 2>she's given him a bottle.

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't drink. He's like, that's a red flag.

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Is she supposed to know you don't drink, dude, Yeah,

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 4>I know, how's that a red flash?

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Just be like yeah, that's cool.

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>And also, like you, it's not like you you just

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>stopped drinking a couple of years ago.

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>You said, like you're it's fine like other people can.

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 4>You also did it because you didn't like what it

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 4>was doing in your body. It wasn't like, oh I

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 4>was an alcoholic or I was dealing with an issue.

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.719
<v Speaker 3>He was like inflammation. And it's like, I know.

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, she gives him this journal and her first entry

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and references microwavable mac and cheese and afternoon naps, which awesome,

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>cancer causing chemicals to the microwavy plastics.

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 3>But we can educate her.

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 2>On that he was so dude, Adam bro.

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, exactly where I was, like mac and cheese

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 4>and naps.

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I've already I have trained multiple people to be athletes.

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's gonna suck.

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Dude, for poor Marissa. That's all I have to say

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 3>is for Marissa.

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 2>All Right, We cut to to Tori and Felipe. Yes,

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>we've learned before. He runs a restaurant.

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>He goes out a lot, seems like kind of a partier,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>but he does shower a bunch. Apparently in Brazil they

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>shower a lot.

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Four times a day. I guess it makes lady, but

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 3>it makes sense great.

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 4>And it's so funny because Sue all of a sudden

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 4>was an expert on that. I don't know how, but

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 4>he's like, shower four times a day And she's like, oh,

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 4>it's because of the humidity in Brazil.

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, it's because of the humidity.

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what did that come of knowledge?

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>It's Google showers in Brazil.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 3>It was so weird.

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 4>It's like, okay, yeah, that information at your fingertips, which

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 4>is odd, but all right.

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>And Torri she they asked her what she would want

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to say to somebody or potential burner. She says that

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not crazy. I'm not crazy, which is the first indication.

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, these people might be good for each other,

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, because he seems like a little wild, you know,

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, who this is going to be

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the person for this. We find out that she likes boxing.

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Then he says that he likes girly girls.

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>We cut to her saying she likes traditional men.

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 1>All right, she likes good food, hosting, having things be

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a little chaotic. She has this thing where she says

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>a family tradition is the cops getting called. So I

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, wk, Yeah, these two are actually on

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>paper saying the right things. She talks about how she

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>grew up poor and that it's like mandatory that that

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the family, that the family is important. He says, she

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>has to get along with his mom. So these people

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>are lining up pretty well, and you know, compared to

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Adam and Marissa, like the whole family being important, which

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>to me seems like a kind of a generic thing.

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>But obviously with Adam and Marissa, it's not like, you know,

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and that's so interesting.

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>You know. I go back and I go back and forth.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>About this because I mean, I obviously, like I have

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>a great relationship with my family. My family's actually very small,

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>though I don't have a big same family, same and

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted a big family. I've ended up only

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>having one kid. But I like the idea of big family,

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like my wife's family is bigger. I love it,

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>like I But that said, I've never had one, so

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how, you know, I'm sure maybe it

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>would try me crazy if I had like a million

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>cousins and tons of siblings and you know, because family

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>can be.

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Tough, can't people Just my cousins were just here from Germany.

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 4>It's so great to have I mean again very close

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 4>to my family, so seeing that is great. But we

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 4>also don't have twenty five cousins and you know, thirteen

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 4>aunts and uncles.

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean we were just never like that. So but yeah,

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the family is important.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's a littld Chris rockbit where he talks

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 4>about where he's like, you can't you know, if you

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 4>need to have the same interests you need to lead

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 4>if you go to church, they need to go to church.

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 4>It can't be like one can't be a church goer

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 4>or the other can't be a crackhead.

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 3>He's like, it doesn't work. If it doesn't work, and

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 3>they're right.

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean at these two when I started, when I

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 4>really started, and then we'll get to it.

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 3>When they actually got married, I was.

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 4>Like, Okay, this could be the kind of couple of

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 4>the show so far where it's like maybe they got

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 4>this one right.

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.959
<v Speaker 3>It seemed like they really met, you know, meshed.

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were working on paper.

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.239
<v Speaker 1>It was just for me a question of like how

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>they were going to respond to each other in person.

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Right, we'll get there, yep. Yeah.

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>So Paul meets with Felipe and points out that he

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>was late to both of their meetings and that he

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>missed a zoom he parties. And what I like about

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>this is that it sounded almost like, you know, Paul

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>was chastising him or pointing out something that might need

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to change about him, But actually I think he was

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of highlighting Felipe's personality and style like lifestyle, which

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I think actually does match in this case with Tory

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>because she says, like a family tradition is the cops

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>get called, right, so like it actually like it was

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>it was an interesting thing to be like.

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 2>And he didn't really apologize.

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>He didn't say like you know, He's just said like

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I show up when it's important, but this is my lifestyle,

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>like I run a restaurant that you know. And I

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>thought it was interesting, Like it wasn't like a job

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>interview where you have to let just who you are.

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>It was more like Felipe, you are, you seem to

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>be this type of person and.

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah he is.

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I think that might.

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Actually work for Tory, which is super interesting. I'm rooting

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>for him, and so Lisa doctor Lisa talking to Paul.

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>They you know, she says he has a certain love

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>of life, his family, friends, and she has this great

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>line she says, Tory will be the lead guitarist and

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>he will be the lead sign her, which I was like,

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>I like that that'll work.

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got a little page plant thing going on,

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 3>that'll work.

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 1>We see Tory getting ready talking about how she's a

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>spray tanded little gremlin.

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh that was She's funny.

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 1>And this is where she first expresses that she's nervous

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that he will run away.

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 2>This comes back a.

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 3>Lot, this several times.

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Super interested. I was like, yeah, she means it literally.

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>She means it literally. She has like a fear of

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>him literally looking at her and turning and running in

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the opposite, which is so fascinating, Like of all the

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>things she says, like she repeats it.

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Like there's like a trauma. She had a nightmare. At

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>some point, well.

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Started going like even family members sargo that She's like

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 3>what if he runs away? And they're like that could happen.

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 4>It was like wait, wait what your you're it's no,

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 4>it's not gonna happen where she's going to turn and

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 4>run on camera.

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 3>That could happen, That could happen, Like no, oh.

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh god?

0:34:58.239 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

0:34:59.000 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>With Felipe, his sister, dad and mom come to visit him.

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>They're very emotional, the exact opposite of Adam.

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this guy needs.

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>To be with his family. He needs her to fit

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>in with his family. We see the same thing with

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>her family again. She asks if he's gonna run, and

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>we cut to bel Jo Lee, who's a Sara songwriter.

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Amazing voice, Oh my god, cut to her singing.

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, she's not.

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, she's got great talent. Definitely an artist. She

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>teaches dance, she does she's a makeup artist. She has

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 2>all these different jobs. And then they cut to Mecca

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 2>saying that he would love to have someone who sarenates him.

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 2>So we're like getting onto the same page.

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>And she talks about how she needs somebody with ambition,

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and then we cut back in are reminded that Mecca

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>cleans toilets.

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but we learned later he cleans toilets for his

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 4>family's business.

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 4>So it's you know that's first of all, as a

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 4>sanitation worker, you make very good money. But now if

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 4>it's also you're doing that for your family business, it

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 4>also means you could own the business some day.

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>See this is This is I think is super interesting

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.919
<v Speaker 1>because I I think that's exactly what she's not looking for.

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 3>You think like a blue collar worker, yeah, or just

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 3>a steady like she does not.

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 2>She actually wants an artistic sort of right right right right,

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 2>And this is one of those things.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Like because Alex and I talked about this a lot,

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>because we're both artists, we're both like job to job freelancers,

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>we both are multi hyphenits, and there are a lot

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>of people around us who wouldn't want one of when

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>one wouldn't want to be in a relationship like that,

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Like sure, they think of that, and they think of

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 1>that as chaos. And I see a lot of people

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>who are like one person's an artist, the other one's

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>a more stable job like lawyer and an actor or

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and I totally get that, Like I could see that,

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and I could see myself in this situation. I actually

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>could probably be with somebody who wanted to be more stable. Sure,

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if Alex is the same way. I

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:50.720
<v Speaker 1>think she probably would only want an artist or somebody

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>who is. I don't she's only pretty much dated.

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh, people like me, you know the people who are.

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 4>But maybe she's only dated people like you because as actors,

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of what we're you're her two year round

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 4>and what you're used to.

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Where No, she broke her I will say that her

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>first boyfriend, which was a long term relationship she moved

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>in with him, like during college and stuff, was more

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>of a steady sort of like he was like military

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>than like super like regular. I forget what he does,

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>but it's something you know, lawyer e. They something very

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 1>like good job, stable, and she left him partly because

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>of that, you know, because she was like at twenty

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>three or whatever, staring down the barrel of.

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh no, I couldn't. I don't want this in

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>my life. So but I think I could be.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I could be with somebody who is like

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.719
<v Speaker 1>a lawyer or maybe even doesn't have a job, you

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like I'm not, but I'm And

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>so I look at Belle jo Lee and I was like,

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna hate this about this?

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh you think?

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Wait, which is interesting because I think personality wise, he

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>is her type he's flashy, he's interesting, he's funny, he's

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 1>got tons of personality, so he's like, he's like artistic

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>in his personality.

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 3>He was getting a little much towards.

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>The end, I know, but but I can see why

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>they were like sholl over the fact that he cleans

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>toilets because he's a steady paycheck. But I disagree. I

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think she cares about that. I think she's gonna

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>want somebody. Okay, that's my hot take on I immediately

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I was reminded that he cleaned toilets. I was like, shit,

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 1>he's good for her in every other way, but I

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>think she's not.

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 4>Gonna Like artistic people tend to gravitate towards other artistic people.

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I think it can go because I would,

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a regular paycheck would be nice for

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of our course. To know that somebody is

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>stable and that that's gonna be there for you is

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 1>like the other side of its magic.

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, he does say at this point, he references that

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 1>he's a model, which they don't get into too much.

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 2>So maybe he is kind of artistic. I don't know.

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 3>He talked about how he's a good looking.

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.919
<v Speaker 1>Guy and he wants a female version of him, which

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I was like a little weird, but then got to

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>her and she says she wants matching outfits, so I

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, these guys are kind of aligning.

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Can I also tell you a new trend that seems

0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 4>to be happening in the last year or so?

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 3>I can't stand is the things on the teeth.

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.879
<v Speaker 2>I know for a while, has it been longer than that.

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I just it's like the distracting.

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 3>It's distracted.

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.240
<v Speaker 4>It's all I'm staring at is these like fake diamonds

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 4>on teeth, and I've seen them in a bunch of

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:14.280
<v Speaker 4>reality shows.

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Now it's all all the island.

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 4>People are doing where they're putting these things, and it's

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 4>just like, dude, knock it off.

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I can't handle face tattoos either.

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't like face tattoos either. No, it's but I'm

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 4>also you and I disagree. I also don't like nose rings.

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can handle piercings. I don't like. I don't

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>like nose rings.

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I like you. I like all face piercings are fine

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 2>for me. Oh yeah, to me draw your attention. That's

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:39.800
<v Speaker 2>that's problem with the face tattoos.

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Your nose the while I don't I don't do.

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 3>It, but yeah I do. It's like, why why are

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:47.439
<v Speaker 3>you doing that?

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, uh we find out that, uh, Mecca grew up

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>in a broken home. His step mom then left his

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>dad and took his brother and sister with her, which

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 1>sounds awful and tragic for him.

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 4>And there's a story there because it's like why split

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:04.399
<v Speaker 4>up the kids something.

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Belle Julie her mom is her best friend, but she

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>also just did not have a relationship with her dad.

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 1>So you know, these guys are kind of in this

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.240
<v Speaker 1>in similar ways, Like they seem like they have similar

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>broken home backgrounds ish things. They both kind of want

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to rewrite their families, which is that they want to

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>stay together for their kids. So yeah, on paper, you know,

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.479
<v Speaker 1>Paul and Lisa they're like putting, you know, putting these things,

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:32.320
<v Speaker 1>these people together.

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 2>And then they say this line. I think it's Lisa says.

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:41.240
<v Speaker 1>It that Mecca at his most actualized might be perfect

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>for Bellejoly and that was interesting.

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's a weird way.

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 3>I thought so too, I thought, but I love how

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 3>the other how how.

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Paul was he's like, that's the way Yep, yep.

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 3>He's like pointing out earlier, Yep, that's that's a great

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 3>way to say it. That's a great way to say it.

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's similar to like what you said about

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the Adam thing.

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 1>They're they're expecting somebody to change somebody else or or

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>in this case, for somebody to change, like he will

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 1>have to actualize himself in order to be in this relationship.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 2>That's a risk, man. I don't know about that.

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I agree.

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 4>The one of the things that Susan and I always

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 4>talk about is the fact that one of the things

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 4>we loved about each other from right from right away

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 4>and then grew is that other than little things, which

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 4>is totally normal, neither of us had to change the

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 4>person we are to be with the other person, right

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 4>Like we didn't have to change napping during the day.

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 3>All that stuff worked.

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like, Okay, I want to be with you

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:34.439
<v Speaker 4>and I love you, but you've got to change blah

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 4>blah blah blahlah.

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 3>It's like none of that totally. And again, little things happen,

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 3>but that's it.

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 2>A lot of that is being older too.

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 1>When you meet do you know what I mean, because

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys you were already in your thirties, right, Well, no,

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>when we first met in late twenties.

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 3>I was twenty three twenty four when I first.

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Met, okay, But again then it was you know, we've

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 4>been together now fifteen years. So the second time we

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 4>were together and started really dating, it was that's when

0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 4>we really got into it. And it was one of

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 4>those things where it was it was just like, I

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 4>don't need her to change anything about herself, and she

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 4>doesn't need me to change anything about myself, and that

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 4>was one of the best parts about it. So, yeah,

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 4>the idea of like she's gonna be good for you

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 4>because she's gonna make you better at the blah blah blah,

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 4>it's like, don't I agree.

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I agree, it's a bad omen.

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think here's what here's what I'll

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 2>say to that.

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.839
<v Speaker 1>I think actually, you and Susan probably did change a lot,

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>it was just not conscious.

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:27.479
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the problem is conscious change. If you're consciously

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>like I need to change who I am to be

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>with this person, or I need that person needs to

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.760
<v Speaker 1>change to be with me, that's where you are problems.

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>But I do think we make adjustments, we just don't

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>do it consciously.

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe you're right. I don't know, because I

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 2>was thinking about it. I was like, I think I

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:45.919
<v Speaker 2>probably did change a lot.

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And you know, from the outside, people might say like,

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>oh that, but if you have to, if it's a

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.320
<v Speaker 1>conscious thing, that's where I think you run into problems

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>because you start having resentment.

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 2>But I think if you just adjust to each other's speed,

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean?

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Because like I just like, like I find it funny,

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>like I walk so much faster than my wife, and

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:04.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's such a thing, do you know what

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Like you just like people have different different paces.

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>And then I walk with like I go because we

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 1>like we go hiking, right, we go backpack and we

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>go hiking. I'm always like half a mile ahead of her.

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>And then I go backpacking with like my guy friends.

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you're like I am the slowest hiker, and

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like you just realize, like, yeah, we all have

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:24.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of a pace, do you know what I mean?

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 1>And we either like meet each other, we like match up,

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>or we don't. But if we left to our own devices,

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>we really do.

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Just like get miles apart from each other.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I think if you like, if you're expected

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>to make conscious effort and you're like really have to

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like run to keep up, it might be too much,

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. But if you can just fall into a

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>pace together and be like, oh, you know what I

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>mean this metaphorically like in the relationship, in all the

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.399
<v Speaker 1>different ways, you just like, I don't know, that's my take,

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 1>but I get it.

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:50.359
<v Speaker 2>I can't think you changed a lot.

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Probably I probably and maybe just didn't know it.

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is the best way, right, It just happens.

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like a little Yeah.

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>So I worry about these sort of conscious like we're

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna bring these two people together because this bring out

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the best or the worst. But anyway, bel Jolie's getting ready.

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>She says, if he wore white, that'll mean he's an artist.

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 2>And he is wearing white. He's also not wearing.

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Socks socks, he's got spiky shoes on. But I do

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like his confidence with his friends, and he's like, as

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>we again, no, I'm not wearing socks, like you know.

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because he's confident in all these like out

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>talkie ways, but then it seems like he has some

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 1>central insecurities, you know, like he's really worried about not

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>being accepted.

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a lot going on there, and I think

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 4>by the end the personality was starting.

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 3>To push a little bit, I know, just a little bit.

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think he was nervous. I think it was.

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure. I'm sure.

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Back to Torrian Felipe wedding time, he walks out immediately

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.080
<v Speaker 1>just says hi everyone, and he keeps he keeps putting

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>everybody at ease, which I just think is totally his personality.

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 4>And I wonder if they asked the cast here to

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 4>change up something that has been in the show a lot,

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 4>because some of the couples, not all, but some of

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 4>the guys would walk down the aisle and instantly turn

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.879
<v Speaker 4>and introduce themselves to either the dad or the mom

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 4>of their future partner. Hi, I'm so and so none

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 4>of them did that. They stood up there and they're

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 4>like hi, but none none of them walked over. And

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 4>we're like, hey, I just wanted to do it, and

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 4>that's happened several times in the past, and I don't

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 4>understand why you wouldn't do that. So I'm wondering since

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 4>none of them did it if it was a producer

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 4>note of like we're gonna stop doing the introducing yourself

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 4>to parents they just wanted.

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 2>To up there, didn't or like maybe no risk.

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 4>But again, it's one of those things where there were

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 4>several couples in the past a lot where the you know,

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 4>the guy especially would walk out because he's out there

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 4>first and instantly go over to the dad or the mom,

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 4>introduce himself, shake their hand like it was very respectful.

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 3>And none of them did that this time.

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 4>So I'm curious if that was a producer note or

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 4>if they just didn't do it.

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting.

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm curious too, because I mean, if it's a

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.319
<v Speaker 1>producer note, they did it in order to protect the

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:58.919
<v Speaker 1>people who show up without their family with maybe yeah,

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and which is in two of the three couples, yere

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I have complicated family situations where it would be maybe

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 1>awkward if they did that.

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 2>So interesting.

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, anyway, I thought it was interesting the way that

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Philippe was Felipe was just immediately like trying to make

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody else feel good.

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Just immediately put himself in a hosting mode. Yeah, I

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, this guy's great, this guy's funny.

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 3>And then well, that's what he does that. You know,

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:35.720
<v Speaker 3>he probably in the front of the house of the restaurant.

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 3>That's what he does.

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 2>And then she she's back backstage. I wanted to say,

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 2>by the way, I guess it's backstage in a way.

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 3>She brings up that he might run away again.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just like, oh my god.

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 3>She is got this on the brain.

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm dying to know how many people have literally turned

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 4>and run from her.

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, he turns around as she walks down the aisle

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and says, you're stunning because she is. You laugh.

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 2>They immediately are He's.

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Open, He's funny. She makes this comment about being happy

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.760
<v Speaker 1>that so many friends and family showed up for Felipe.

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Is he the one He's the one who said wow.

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, She's just like wow, and everyone started to laugh.

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 3>It's great. Yeah.

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:20.240
<v Speaker 1>He makes a little speech about you know, when we argue,

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I will probably try to win, but I will get

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you the best table in the house and the dessert

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that you want, which I thought it was great, you know,

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And then they have this b moment where there's some

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 1>in her veil and.

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 3>He calls her babes.

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 1>He's like, your babes, that that's funny because that could

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:36.879
<v Speaker 1>be either one of those things.

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 3>It's going to drive her crazy or that's what he's

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 3>going to call her.

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I love that. Somebody says like, oh, he's

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 2>already rescuing.

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:46.359
<v Speaker 3>It was the efficient already rescuing you yep.

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>So they're pronounced and he says, let's hug. They hug,

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:53.240
<v Speaker 1>but then they kissed too, and I think they have chemistry.

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:53.399
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.839
<v Speaker 1>I think that's pretty great, you know. And as we're

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 1>walking away, she says, you're so hot in private, which

0:47:59.200 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>was nice.

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 2>You know that she sort of saved it for when

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 2>it was.

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 4>Just them because I was worried about that. I was like, oh,

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:06.359
<v Speaker 4>is she not as attracted to him as he is

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:08.439
<v Speaker 4>to her? Yeah, because I did I know you didn't

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 4>listen to the preview, and I don't want to ruin anything.

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 4>And frankly, I don't know who it is. You hear

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 4>a voiceover in the preview of a woman telling a man,

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 4>and I have no idea who it is, but a

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 4>woman telling a man I'm not I'm not physically attracted

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.359
<v Speaker 4>to you. Oh no, Yeah, So it's like I don't

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 4>know who what couple that is.

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:27.959
<v Speaker 2>But when I first saw it was like hell yeah.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 4>But then she's like, you're so hot, and I think

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 4>she was genuine when she said that. So I think

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 4>they're I think they're attracted to they're right now my

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 4>favorite couple.

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, they seem like they seemed like well paired on

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>paper and they felt you feel chemistry.

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, agreed.

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, cool, Like so yeah, I'm optimistic

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 2>about these two.

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know too.

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>All right, Then we see Mecca getting ready. He's got like,

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of a rowdy group of guys, lots

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 1>of laughter, and then he's alone with his dad and

0:48:56.000 --> 0:49:00.760
<v Speaker 1>his grandma and the you know, they they seem sweet.

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>His dad got to be a little much by the

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 1>end of the episode, but at this point, I.

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 4>Wait, too much, like he was like trying to make

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 4>it about himself wedding and stuff like that.

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Dude, sit out. I was seriously like, sit down.

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little weird. It's a little weird that he

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 2>like got up and gave a speech.

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know when they cut to Belgiolie and

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 1>she's got like her flashy jewelry on her necklace, I

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, these dudes do seem right for each other

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and they have like a lot of the but she

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>does not want to kiss on the lips.

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 2>She's insisting on the cheek.

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Kiss fair then yeah, But then Mecca's dad says, if

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:41.240
<v Speaker 1>she gives you the cheek, it's weak sprung man sprung,

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 1>and he's really just set his son up for not

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 1>a great situation. It yeah gives she says in the car,

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:49.839
<v Speaker 1>She's like, she's not going to do it. I hope

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't turnish his ego. She's already made the

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>decision and Mecca's trying to play it by ear with

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>his pressure from his dad. So this ends up being

0:49:57.640 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of a.

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Loaded situation, which is ye, yeah, yeah. It feel like if.

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Nobody had talked about this, yes, let it be, the

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 1>probably would have worked itself out.

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 2>You just would have not kissed and not thought about it,

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 2>or kissed and not overthought it.

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 3>But now it literally says, oh, if he gives you

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 3>the she gives you the cheek.

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:14.919
<v Speaker 4>It's so like Jesus, you're already there's already you're saying

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 4>it's bad if you don't.

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 3>She doesn't want to kiss me right there at the wedding, Yeah,

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 3>he's yeah, did the first couple kiss. Yeah, they did. Okay,

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 3>that's what he.

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>They so Felipe said, let's go for a hug. They

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:29.040
<v Speaker 1>hugged and then he pulled out kissed her on the

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 1>cheek while he went in for the hug, and then

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:31.799
<v Speaker 1>they actually He's like, OK.

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Let's kiss.

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 1>So they kind of checked with each other, so they

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 1>did like a hug cheek, then they actually kissed. So yeah,

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:40.839
<v Speaker 1>but Mecca is super nervous and bouncy.

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:42.359
<v Speaker 2>She comes in.

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 1>She says, Jesus helped me. Everybody laughs. There seem to be,

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, into one another. They're both beautiful people, you

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like they're there they clothing in

0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 1>terms of their types.

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 2>That's like, these guys seem right.

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 4>But I feel like, I don't know it felt you

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 4>think you think it's still gonna be it's gonna be

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 4>his job.

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just like I don't know. I think

0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the job is a big thing, but it's gonna become

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel like he's trying too hard

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.240
<v Speaker 1>in this moment, and I'm hoping that he can calm

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it down because like she talks about being a foodie

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and he immediately says like I'll lead tentacles or whatever,

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, I don't know if that's the right,

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Like he goes too far, you know, and I think

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:27.240
<v Speaker 1>it's nerves.

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think ultimately.

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Like there might be something about him that just rubs

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:35.680
<v Speaker 1>her the wrong way and able to say is cleaning toilets,

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 1>but in part it might be cleaning toilets.

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:39.960
<v Speaker 4>I get kind of the same vibe a little bit

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 4>with Mecca as I do with Adam, And I don't

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 4>mean anything red flaggy about Mecca, but what I mean

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:48.760
<v Speaker 4>by that is how they look on camera is also

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 4>in their mind, Whereas Felipe to me, seemed like he

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 4>was kind of all in, like he was just kind

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 4>of there where these guys are like pushing it for

0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:57.359
<v Speaker 4>the camera as well, like.

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Adam needs to be the cool, in control guy.

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 4>And Mecha kind of needs to be the fun, like

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:03.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm cool kind of guy.

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:04.399
<v Speaker 3>But it's like.

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 4>It it matters how they come off on camera, and

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:11.200
<v Speaker 4>that's a whole different vibe than if you're just there

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 4>to get married, yea. And it seemed like Felipe was

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 4>just kind of about getting married and not about being

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:18.360
<v Speaker 4>on the show. And they're also thinking about being on

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:20.239
<v Speaker 4>the show, and I think that taints it.

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a good way to put it, actually, yeah, I

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:27.840
<v Speaker 1>would say just try hard, right, yes, yes, exactly exactly. Well,

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>they have their kiss moment and she really kind of

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>sticks to her cheek thing, like pointing cheeky geek, So

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he respects that, and then she has this moment of like, hey,

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I just met you, and they sing together this is crazy,

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:42.280
<v Speaker 1>which is cute.

0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:45.239
<v Speaker 2>That song comes on the soundtrack.

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:50.120
<v Speaker 1>And they walk out, and then he immediately starts expressing insecurity,

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>saying that the family seems like they hate me. Yeah,

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and then he brings back the cheek week tongue sprung

0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 1>thing from his dad, which is haunting him. And I

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:03.400
<v Speaker 1>really really blame his dad for yes, bringing this up. Also,

0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:06.359
<v Speaker 1>like you said, kind of overtaking the ceremony itself, making

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it about.

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Him standing up and making a speech. It's like you

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:10.919
<v Speaker 3>make your speeches after it's not about you right now.

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 1>We cut to Marissa and Adam mom with Marissa. She

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 1>gives her a diamond bracelet. She didn't Marissa did not

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 1>invite her dad to the wedding. We don't know the

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:28.799
<v Speaker 1>exact history, but she says, we don't talk anymore. So

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking like, yeah, you know, this kind of

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 1>works with Adam's situation. But then she's bringing out all

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>these little alcohol bottles to be shot with.

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Her friends, and I was like, oh, this is not

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 2>going to go over there.

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:40.799
<v Speaker 3>No, here's the other thing.

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:45.280
<v Speaker 4>If you're thirty, you should never take a fireball shot

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 4>in your life. Fireball is for when you're nineteen and

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 4>you rated somebody's liquor.

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Cac she was, I know, if she was doing champagne,

0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I was exactly a deal, because it's like, you're just

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 1>a classy drinker who happens to be with a guy

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 1>who might not drink. But when you're doing five ball

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:02.600
<v Speaker 1>shots at your friends and this is it might be

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 1>more of a like you're a you're like a party drinker.

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:07.319
<v Speaker 2>This is what you do for fun and this.

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.919
<v Speaker 3>Is like gas station and this.

0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Is yeah, that's not gonna fly with with you know,

0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:15.799
<v Speaker 1>the guy who's worried about chemicals and the microwavable plastics like.

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:18.759
<v Speaker 3>And it's just again, it's just the whole thing.

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:21.240
<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of like this is all not not.

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Going This is gonna be bad. This is going to

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 3>be bad.

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>And then he cuts to Adam and they're like, how

0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:27.359
<v Speaker 1>did you feel about the gives And he goes, oh,

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 1>she got me a journal, but I read a lot.

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a gentleman and a scholar. Six' five by the, way.

0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 1>What, yeah they give off your height when you're trying

0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to describe yourself as a, reader, gentleman, Scholar he, says

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:42.600
<v Speaker 1>six to five by the, Way like those things don't

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 1>counteract when it's, like what are you talking?

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:49.880
<v Speaker 3>About everything this guy says is horrifying so. Much, dude

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:50.439
<v Speaker 3>what are you?

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Doing?

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Dude, yeah what are you?

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:56.279
<v Speaker 3>Doing? Yeah, yeah He you.

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Know it's funny because he talked about how he doesn't you,

0:54:58.640 --> 0:55:00.960
<v Speaker 1>know he's always been so seriou about, wife so he

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't go to like frat, parties and he didn't want

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to go to like BUT i actually think that's probably

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.280
<v Speaker 1>where he would meet the type of woman he actually,

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:11.279
<v Speaker 1>wants which is probably someone like kind of younger who

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 1>wants somebody who will mold them into a better per.

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Submissive yes, exactly you, know a better person into his, version.

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>But that they will let, him you, know that somebody

0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:24.360
<v Speaker 1>who's just LIKE i NEED i need a sort of

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.680
<v Speaker 1>father figure, Person like that's where you meet those, women,

0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Dude like you actually meet them at the parties and,

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:33.279
<v Speaker 1>like you know WHAT i, Mean like the sorority he's

0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>like is going the wrong, way like by trying to

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:37.960
<v Speaker 1>find a, matchmaker who's gonna find like somebody good On

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want somebody good on. Paper, now you want

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's like a blank slate who's probably on the younger,

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 1>side not physically but, mentally do.

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:44.759
<v Speaker 2>You know WHAT i?

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Mean and probably not the person in the world exactly

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 4>somebody loves.

0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Exactly you're, smart you're like a. Genius, yes, YEAH i don't.

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:55.120
<v Speaker 2>THINK i don't.

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Think somebody who wants to contribute to her own, pages

0:55:57.600 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to a journal with him is what he's looking.

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 4>For and he's given her goggles because he wants to

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:02.680
<v Speaker 4>rip it on the jet.

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Skis it's like she wants he.

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Wants he wants somebody with her arms wrapped her around.

0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Him well he drives the jet Ski, yes you know

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that she's just along for the.

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Ride that is his.

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Life, yeah and he even wrote bonus points if you

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:17.520
<v Speaker 4>can tell me what the red thing is and the

0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 4>thing you're, like, really come, on, dude.

0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Pop quiz qu here you.

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:28.560
<v Speaker 6>Go can you tell me the calorie content of microwavable?

0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 6>Popcorn if you can answer that, question Then i'll have

0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:33.520
<v Speaker 6>some with. You but only, yeah only a quarter of

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:35.759
<v Speaker 6>a serving Because i'm. Counting, no this is, yeah you're.

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Exactly this is the guy who is, like you're not

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 4>having dessert tonight and would pull the dessert away from

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:41.160
<v Speaker 4>Her like that's this.

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Guy it's like, No AND i wonder how much of

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:47.320
<v Speaker 1>his family just finds him insufferable and that's why they're not, coming.

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah or they're all like.

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:51.600
<v Speaker 1>This, well he ends up walking down the aisle with

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 1>his friend's, girlfriend which is just. WEIRD i was kind

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 1>of like just walked on the island by. HERSELF i don't.

0:56:56.560 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Know she's worried that her friends might be drunk again

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 1>on a great.

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Sign not a good. Sign and then.

0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:09.360
<v Speaker 2>She pulls, up walks out and they know each other.

0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:14.879
<v Speaker 3>Around and she, SAYS i know. Him, okay my.

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Theory here's my.

0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:22.480
<v Speaker 4>THEORY i think the girl that he called earlier is

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 4>going to be one of her, friends even tangentially obviously

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 4>not a good enough friend to be invited to the,

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<v Speaker 4>wedding but somebody where she's gonna be, like, oh he

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<v Speaker 4>like date he was kind of like with a friend

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<v Speaker 4>of like SOMEBODY i knew, from which is why they

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<v Speaker 4>put it in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Show, interesting that's My it's a total shot in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Dark but that was WHAT i said To. Susan she's,

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<v Speaker 4>like oh my, GOD i wonder if that's.

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<v Speaker 1>It that's a good call BECAUSE i just think they're

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<v Speaker 1>so LIKE i don't, KNOW i don't know how the show,

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<v Speaker 1>works But i'm, like could they just call it off right?

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<v Speaker 2>Now if they know each? Other wait?

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<v Speaker 3>SOON i said the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing it's, like can they, say, hey we dated years,

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<v Speaker 4>AGO i we don't like each.

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<v Speaker 2>Other. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah saying what you're saying is more interesting because there

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a reason for them to have not

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<v Speaker 1>even considered dating each.

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<v Speaker 2>Other do you know WHAT i?

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, like because OTHERWISE i would, say like the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they, reacted if they know each, other that they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not into, it like they they would have pursued

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<v Speaker 1>it if they could, have so it might just be.

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<v Speaker 3>Over it was such a good ending to the. EPISODE

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<v Speaker 3>i was so.

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<v Speaker 1>Pissed, As, oh they're just gonna have turned around and that's,

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<v Speaker 1>It and THEN i was, like, no they're gonna turn

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<v Speaker 1>around and set us. Up all, right we're in in

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<v Speaker 1>line and sinker my.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend all, right, well this is gonna be a good. Season.

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<v Speaker 2>Man i'm really think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Too i'm very. Curious SO i think we were in.

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<v Speaker 1>Agreement Then adam And, marissa it's never gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Work, ever gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Work Mecca beljerlely probably not gonna. Work probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Not BUT i Am.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the. THING i really like Both belgilely And, YES

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<v Speaker 2>i actually like.

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<v Speaker 1>Them both as, people AND i THINK i think THAT

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<v Speaker 1>i understand why the matchmakers made the choices.

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<v Speaker 2>They, did BUT i think they messed it. UP i

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they're Gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's one THING i will say about the shows That

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<v Speaker 4>i've watched. Before it's usually the couple you don't don't

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<v Speaker 4>think have a chance that are still. Together, Right it's

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<v Speaker 4>the weirdest. Thing but, Yeah i'd also like to start

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<v Speaker 4>a new little, segment if that's, okay called what an?

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<v Speaker 3>Arrangement and what it is you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to, say Like tony d?

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<v Speaker 3>Arrangement oh, no it is some of the most famous

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<v Speaker 3>arranged marriages throughout.

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<v Speaker 2>History oh, Great so.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to start today With Marie antoinette And louis

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<v Speaker 4>the Sixteen, yes both partners in the arrangement had parents

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<v Speaker 4>before them looking to wheel power and For Marie antoinette

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<v Speaker 4>and The Austro hungarian, kingdom marriage With louis the sixteenth

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<v Speaker 4>Of france was intended to push back efforts By prussia

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<v Speaker 4>And Great britain during the eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>Century the two were married by.

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<v Speaker 4>Proxy their union was one that was built the unity

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<v Speaker 4>of two, kingdoms but later devolved into scandal and then

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<v Speaker 4>both were eventually executed during The French.

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<v Speaker 2>Revolution by? Proxy does that mean they got married without

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<v Speaker 2>even seeing each? Other?

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<v Speaker 4>Correct so we would get married and what you would

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<v Speaker 4>literally stand with somebody else and they give your, vows

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<v Speaker 4>and somewhere else in another kingdom they do the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing and then you'd find each other in the. Middle

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<v Speaker 3>so that's how it.

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<v Speaker 4>Happened but they the rumors were that they grew to

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<v Speaker 4>be very much in love even when all the scandals

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<v Speaker 4>and The French. Revolution that apparently it worked and then.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost their. Heads, wow is?

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<v Speaker 3>It what an? Arrangement what are the reach old.

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<v Speaker 6>All?

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<v Speaker 2>Right you've been listening to the pod meets?

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<v Speaker 1>Twirled the vows have been spoken, of the experts have

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<v Speaker 1>weighed in and our completely off hand conversation has now

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<v Speaker 1>become a season long.

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<v Speaker 2>Commitment we'll see you next. Time trap your smoking

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<v Speaker 3>The colog