WEBVTT - MATT NATHANSON: "Boston Accent" 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:08.680 Can you believe it's already August? My friend? How in 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.119 the world did that happen? Are we just lamenting that 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:17.040 winter wouldn't end? And here we find ourselves in deep summer, 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.320 thinking about snow banks and ice storms and remembering they 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:27.160 weren't really that bad. How is your summer going? Are 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.960 you soaking up the sun or you sitting in front 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.920 of the A C unit? Wherever you find yourself, I 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:39.600 hope there has been some creativity, some productivity, some contemplation, 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.320 a whole lot of relaxation, and at least one or 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:48.559 two good books on your summer schedule. And music, music, music, 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:53.199 definitely music. What kind of music do you turn to 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.680 when the days are long the sun is high? Feel 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.360 good tunes are high on my list, as are all 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.240 those nostalgic songs that take me back to my high 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:07.040 school days. And I gotta admit a little hard rock 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.960 makes a long car trip a whole lot more fun. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.840 Today's guest on love Someone is doing his part to 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:18.240 add to our catalog of musical options. He is a 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:24.600 prolific singer songwriter who just released his twelve studio album. 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:29.200 You'll probably know him from his breakthrough, multi platinum hit 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.480 Come On Get Higher from the album Some Mad Hope. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.200 If you're a sugar Land fan, maybe you heard him 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:40.480 perform Run with Them from his critically acclaimed album Modern Love, 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.440 which also included another huge hit, Faster Sings. His sad 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.240 Heart spawned the hit single used to Be, which was 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:52.800 also a chart climber. Quite possibly you've heard his music 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.520 watching your favorite TV shows. He's been featured on in 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:01.440 c I s On, Private Practice, Women's Murder, Uh, Scrubs, 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.440 Men and Trees, One Tree Hill, and so many more 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:10.120 shows and movies. He's performed on The Howard Stern Show. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:16.120 He's performed on Ellen, Jimmy Kimmel, Alive, Dancing with the Stars, 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.240 Rachel Ray, and the CMA Awards, to name a few. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:25.480 Matt Nathanson's blend of folk and rock and roll appeals 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:29.959 to a wide wide audience. I love his lyrics. His 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.359 lyrics get me in the heart every time he is 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:38.760 a lyricist. They're meaningful, some might say magical, relatable, and 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:44.280 so very very real. Matt's as authentic as it gets. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.840 He's also adorable. He is a delight to watch perform, 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.800 which he does often solo, strumming an acoustical guitar in 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:56.959 his signature style. More often he's accompanied by longtime collaborator 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.760 and music director Aaron tapp Air and his on guitar 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.959 and backup vocals, And sometimes you'll see him with a 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.960 few bandmates who had percussion and bass to the lineup. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.080 What you will always see is Matt Nathanson smiling a 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:16.800 genuine smile. He has a compelling desire to connect with others. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.880 I am so happy to welcome Matt aboard today to 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:24.840 talk about his latest album. It's called Boston Accent. Didn't 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.880 know he was born on the East Coast. 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I can't flirt with you though, 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.880 um number one because this is like a professional show. 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.240 And number two, you're married with a baby today. Our 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:05.520 guest is the amazing the soundtrack for our life, Mr 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.520 Matt Nathanson. I'm psyched to be here with you. Ps 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.760 you can still flirt. Okay, what I'm saying, we got 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.360 it and that's it's what makes the world spin good. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.200 But yeah, so I've got my baby all of a 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.680 sudden is like eleven. So she's like a powerhouse. You 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.040 know what I mean like she went from being hold 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.440 her in my arm. I've seen pictures of you with 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.800 baby in arms. Now she's a big It's crazy. I 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.960 think she has an apartment that she rented during the pandemic. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.279 I think that, like the pandemic has affected all of 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.760 us in certain ways, but my literally my, when she 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.840 was in fifth grade when it started, or fourth grade 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.040 when it started, I think about mid fifth grade, she 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.600 secretly got an apartment that she rents to get away 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.760 from us. Yeah. Yeah, I have a thirteen year old 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:56.640 who's um a little bit sassy. It's built into their 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.200 genetic I don't understand I would have gotten it. Would 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.240 I would be you would have gotten down. Oh I 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.719 would have been. It would have been finished. And my 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.679 kids says things that i've First of all, they're incredibly smart, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.000 they're incredibly sassy and uh and yet there's no way 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.160 I would have survived growing up with that mouth. No, no, 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:20.000 mine doesn't do the mouth. She does the eyes. I said, 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.279 do not talk back to me like that. She says, 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:23.960 I didn't say a word. Is that I saw you? 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.680 Oh it's the eyes, the eye roll, and the glare 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.599 she does, the stare off into space. When I'm giving 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.600 her direction with her mouth half open, like, uh, I 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.080 just can't hear a word you're saying, mom. And then 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.040 when I get angry, like she will push my buttons 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.480 until I get angry, and then it's the eye roll, like, oh, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:49.159 I am dealing with a psychopath. Totally. I've never felt 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.720 more out of control in my life than I do 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.719 when I'm getting mad. I'm like, So I went to 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.159 pick my daughter up. She went to theater camp. That 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.680 was one of her camps this summer. And so she 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.120 went to one of the and she found her people 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.640 right like these kids that she you know, singing rent 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:12.040 and you know, singing, uh Hamilton and Hamilton's Hamilton's amazing. Oh, 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.240 it was super amazing. So I went to go pick 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.400 her up at this friend's house and the mom answered 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.480 the door and I said, Hi, nice to meet you. 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.440 I'm coming to pick up my daughter, you know, and uh, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.560 all of a sudden, down the stairs like really fast, 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.280 and then out the door. My kid just bolts for 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.480 the car, and I go, Bubba, can you say like 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.160 thank you? And she goes thank you and then goes 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:33.520 to the car and I walk over and I go, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.640 what happened. Was it not a good hank? No, it 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.920 was amazing. And I said, why did you run out 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.200 of the house. She goes, I didn't want to stay 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.360 too long because I was afraid we're gonna say something stupid. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.720 And I was like, dude, I'm functioning. I'm functioning almost 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.160 fifty year old person. She's like, you have no filter. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.400 She's like, and I don't know what you're gonna say. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.200 And I was like, well, my job is to interact 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.720 with human beings like I can do this, you know, 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.280 And she was not having any not having any part. 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.960 This is all paid back for me because when I 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:07.440 was growing up, my mom would wear curlers all day 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.880 long and then take him out. Right before dad came home. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.640 She would she did that, you know, like the poster 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.160 you see or the ads you see from the sixties. 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:19.640 The she had the housecoat, dressed thing and curlers in 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.720 her hair all day and then right before dad came home, 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.160 she'd take the curlers out, comb her hair and make 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.400 it look so pretty. But she would think it was 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.360 appropriate to go out in public so long as she 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.960 had red lipstick on, she was okay, even though there 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.199 were curlers in her hair, and I would be like, Mom, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:41.360 could you just like drop me off here? No, she said, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.760 school is up there. I know, but high need X. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:46.920 I feel like I need to walk a little bit. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.560 Says it's raining. Uh oh, look there's billy. I'm gonna 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:57.320 run in over there in time. Damn. And now it's 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:02.920 payback was in. We're not embarrassing. Oh, I'm so embarrassing 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.560 to my kids. Look what we do. Like, yeah, but 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.440 they don't know what we do. They don't know that. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.440 Your daughter does not know you're Matt Nathanson, heart throb 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.480 of the nation, that you are the singer songwriter of 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.200 every soundtrack of every TV show or movie I happen 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:20.320 to bump into. Yeah, she definitely has zero cares about that. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.679 And I'll be like, she'll she'll do something and I'll say, well, Bubba, 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.320 let me help you. I know how to do that. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:25.520 And she's like, you don't know how to do that, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.560 like in singing or something. And I'll be like, no, 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.680 but I can. You know that it's my job kind 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.520 of to do this, to do this. I know a 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.560 little bit about this. She's like, no, you don't know. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.880 That's the other thing. Does does you have a son 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.920 or a dog. Have seven sons and eight daughters, but 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.800 I have five that are home. So the thirteen year 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.800 old and the six year old are the ones that 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.880 are now doing the I roll. Yeah. Yeah, they know 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.040 more than we do as well. And the scary thing 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.400 is they really do. They really do know a lot 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.200 more than me. I blame the Internet. It is the Internet. 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.320 It is totally the Internet. And there circle of friends. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.440 they talk about headier stuff than we did. Yeah, much. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.120 That's the other thing. Like, I walked in on my 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.040 seventeen year old the other day. She was having a 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.000 sleepover because she was going back to the state that 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:17.800 we adopted her out of to visit family and her godparents, 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.640 and so she's like, can I have somebody spend the night. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.080 I'm like, sure, honey, who do you want to have? 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.360 And then she listed off sixteen people and I like, 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.800 that's that's not somebody, that is somebody's that's an army battalion. Yeah, 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.800 that our houses and that pig. She's look, that's okay, 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.640 we'll crowd in my room. Maybe we'll sleep out on 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.880 the trampoline. So she ended up having three girls spend 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:40.120 the night, and I walked into their conversation and they're 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:47.120 using the word intentional. Oh yeah, yeah, it's Mike. At five. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.920 My kid was using words that were like way advanced. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.199 And she still she'll process. She's a very quick processor, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.440 so she's able to sort of sum up what's going 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.640 on and come up with kind of a night. And 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.960 I've been teen. All I wanted to know was what 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.599 David Cassidy still marry me even though I was a 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.079 foot taller than him. Totally. I was lip sinking to 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.920 Deaf Leopard at her age, like in my mom's room, 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.800 pretending I was Joe Elliott the singer and deaf Leppard, like, 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:15.520 and my mom had these leather pants and I was like, 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.240 Joe Elliot wears leather pants. So I'm like on the 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.520 floor of her bedroom trying to put on women's leather 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.040 pants to lip sync to Deaf Leppard and she's talking 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.360 about like the state of the Union. Yeah, it's like, 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:31.040 what is happening? I was drinking sprite and like, far 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:32.880 did you know? Like, and she doesn't. She's just I'm 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:38.080 doing stupid, I think, and she's just like advanced. Yeah, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.680 kids today they blown me away. So what was the 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.240 best thing that came out of COVID for you. So 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.000 I think it's still emerging, but I think, um so 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.800 everybody that I know, and I'm sure this is for 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.840 you as well. Everybody started to um COVID ended, and 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.760 then everybody has started to get Everyone saw their mortality, 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.520 and everybody saw that they don't actually control much of 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.880 anything in the world, and everybody started to get really 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.560 kind of conservative in the true sense of the word, right, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.240 Everybody started conserving there, like, so we're living in a 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:15.319 time where people's bandwidth is sort of taxed, and then 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.200 everybody's feeling their limitations as humans, whether they know it 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:24.280 or not. And for me, what's really happened is I've 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:28.040 been able to figure out what's important to me more 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:29.839 so than I ever have in my life, and I've 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.520 started to kind of ratchet down on There's only a 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.360 few things on my plate, and I'm only going to 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.760 keep a few things on my plate, and that within 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:41.760 that I can sort of find all the satisfaction and 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.959 all the all the fulfillment that I need. So it's 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.640 like my family making music and playing music and that's 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.640 pretty much it, and my friends and and it was 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.920 like before it's funny, before the pandemic, I used to 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.000 do all these things and expand all this energy and 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.880 all these directions, and I couldn't believe. I said to 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.720 my wife this morning. I said, like, I can't believe 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.800 I had time to do any of those things. Like 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.920 life is short and precious and like we have to 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.920 do the things we love. And I've just been focusing 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:14.440 on that so hard, and it's continuing every day that 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.920 I get further outside of it. I still feel this 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.120 commitment to simplicity in a way that I think I 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.440 knew in theory before, but I didn't know now. And 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.880 I have this idea that people fetishize the idea of 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.560 like moving to the woods and like simplifying and like 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.920 just like bringing their own water. And you know this idea, 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.640 Like on Instagram and on TikTok, you see people like 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.360 living in cabins, like off the grid and they're like, 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.400 this is the way to live. And I feel like 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.560 people do that, like and I know, no shade on 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.199 people that do that, but we were fetishizing that as 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.560 a thing because we're not drawing boundaries in our own life. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:53.120 That's kind of an extreme way to draw a boundary. Yeah, 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.360 it's to have boundaries drawn for you essentially right like, 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.200 but sometimes sometimes that were I mean that worked for 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.600 me during during the pandemic. I decided, I am not 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.160 going to be stuck here, shut off from the world, 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.480 with five kids who are going crazy. I'm not going 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.720 to do it. So I did just what you're talking about. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.760 I went to our ranch, which it does have running 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.439 water and it does have electricity, but not much else. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.360 But then you came back. So and this is my 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.680 point is that I think as humans, it's our job 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.560 to deal in human collision and deal with each other, 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.280 and that we and the idea of moving somewhere and 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.360 sort of like piecing out is wonderful, and I back it, 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.800 except that it's like we're not using our machines in 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.360 the right way. It's like, in order for society to 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.120 continue and to evolve and to move in a direction 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:49.320 of like community and togetherness, we have to be involved. 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.600 And so this is the part that I think is 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.120 really important. It's like you have to show up. And 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.400 part of showing up is like not only for your family, 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.120 which is one aspect of showing up, but as a 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.080 community and as a group. And and I'm the first person. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.320 I'm probably the worst team player you've ever seen. But 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.480 like I have to tell you that I think that 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.720 the only way that the world is going to move 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.320 out of where we are is we have to show 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.480 up for human beings and we have to show kindness 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.280 and we have to be in the mix. At least 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.480 that's how I feel. And so as much as I 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.160 love the idea, love the idea, we have some land 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.000 and we're build a house, you know, this kind of thing, 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.280 and I really put it into like fast forward, like 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.280 let's do this, so let's move to New Hampshire, like 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.320 let's go because that's where I grew up. I was like, 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.480 oh my god, it's awesome. Our kid will be psyched, 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.720 it'll be the best. And then and my wife was 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.320 the one that was like, no, no, no, we're here, 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.240 like this is what we do, like it's our job 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.080 to sort of show up. And I was like, oh 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.080 my god, yeah yeah this is She's You're right. So 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:49.640 but I back. I back a good vacation. But your music, 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:55.760 your music is definitely touching, Matt and inspiring. And like 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.480 I said, I don't have TV in my house, but 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.320 I do have guilty pleasures and so after my show 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.000 is over at night, I you know, I'll watch something 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:08.720 on you know, one of the one of the streaming services. Yeah, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.400 and every time I turn it on, there you are. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.720 Oh it's fun. I love soundtracking, the the soundtrack of 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.600 our life. Yeah. Yeah, that's the other thing. Covid. I 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.400 got a studio down the street from my house in 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.000 San Francisco. I can walk to it. It's got a 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.280 live room and it's got my room, and then I 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.560 share it with another kid who's got a live room 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.320 on the other side. And I've just made a lot 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.960 of music, more music than I've ever made before. You 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.560 used to have to fly somewhere to co write, and 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.160 now zoom has made it so I can co I 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.760 co wrote all through the pandemic. I started like a 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.640 side band with a couple of writers. I put out 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.200 a YouTube covers record of my favorite record on the 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.840 thirtieth anniversary. I feel like technology has made it so 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.760 that we can do these kind of you can you 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.840 can do your show from a barn. It's like it's 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.360 kind of a magical time. I can do my show 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.840 from and you where. How awesome is that? But so yeah, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.119 so I'll play you some songs. Maybe, uh, I have 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.520 a song called the new record. I've got a song 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:13.439 called Pictures, my favorite yeah, about the beauty of and 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.679 I think you asked about what the pandemic has taught me. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.359 It's like that there's beauty. I'm always in pursuit of 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.240 some sort of something and that that is going to 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.919 somehow be the answer. And what I realized is that 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.879 the answer is here right now in every minute that 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.480 I'm in when I'm in the shower, if I can 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.080 just focus on my feet, on the on the ground 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.000 and the water on my neck, it's like that that's 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.359 a beautiful miracle of a moment. And so Pictures is 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.200 a song about you know, people paint pictures of places 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.800 like this, People dream dreams of the life that we live. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:49.359 That idea that people don't realize that you're living in 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.560 this moment. You know. Again, we sort of fetishize the 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.560 other as this, oh my god, well what they have 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.280 is great. But I got to walk down to my 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.159 studio today and then I opened the door, and I 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.240 have a place where I can make music. You know, 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.040 I get to be with my wife and wake up 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.520 in the morning with my wife. It's like everything we 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.879 do I get to drink tea. I have tea in 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.080 this mug that I love, and it's like I got 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.240 to put and it's like everything is kind of a 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.720 wonder And I don't mean to be so hippie to 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:21.000 be about it, but it's a it is true. We're 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.760 in these meat suits, like on a rock, like hurling 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.480 through space and we get to do this magical stuff. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.800 It's pretty incredible. I love that song. I love Pictures. 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:31.879 I love the whole album, but that was by far 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:37.560 my favorite. Because I'm a lyricist, I listen for words. Yeah, 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.760 I love the stories. I love the stories when they're 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.640 woven together, especially the way you do it so cleverly, 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.600 like thanks. You could be a country artist. You twist 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.320 a word you play Like when I listen to your music, Matt, 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:55.200 I hear you playing with words. That's super rad. I 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.320 I and the country thing is incredibly thank you. I 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.320 take a lot of time and I invest a lot 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.760 of energy into lyrics because, like you, they're super important 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.360 to me as a listener. They're the thing that I mean. 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.720 I love a good journey guitar solo, or I love 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:10.960 a good you know sing along. Course, don't get me wrong. 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.000 But but when the lyrics move in a way that 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.520 you can follow and invest in, I think that's really 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.000 important in pictures. There's a song on this record called 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:24.040 German Cars. I made this record growing up in Boston 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.000 and then moving to California. I've always tried very hard 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.840 to not be from Boston. I tried very hard to 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:34.760 like distance myself from my family. Oh it's the ps 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.320 it is the best. But when you grow up there, 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.000 you want to get I wanted to get as far 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:40.919 away as I could, and I was never My family 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.600 was always a little bit um. Now. I was in 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.720 as a young kid. I was put into school at 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.480 age nine, and so I was I was never really 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.440 around my family. And then summers I would spend two months. 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.600 Awhere did you go to school? You were in boarding school? Yeah, 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.119 from the time I was fifth grade on. Yeah, And 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.320 I went and I wasn't rich, but I went to 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.359 school with very rich people. So I went to school 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.000 with like Kennedy's and Kawasaki's and and I like to 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:07.920 say it was like most of these kids were the 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.960 jewelry that their parents brought out during like holidays, right 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.960 like they would put them in the you know, put 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.800 them away and then they bring them out. You've lived 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:20.400 some very opposite not just opposite ends of the country, 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:26.560 but opposite lifestyles totally. And so I wrote this record 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.280 as it's called Boston Accent, and it's kind of it's 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.200 kind of a celebration of my roots because I find 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.240 I have a song on the record called Boston Accent, 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.000 and it was I wrote it based on every time 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.480 I hear someone who even has a twinge of a 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:41.879 New England accent, I get like, I feel like I 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.720 can trust them. I feel like I'm home. I feel 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:46.840 like I've got these like dare my people. They could 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:48.959 be serial killers and as long as they're like if 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.879 they got a Boston accent and they're like dude, how 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:55.720 you doing? My god? You know what, I hug them. 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.320 But you know, Dedam is like, that's what's all about. 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.000 So you know what I disc when I lived there 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.400 is it was hard to get to know people. I 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.520 will talk to Advince Post and it was hard to 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.440 get to know people because they're like, Wow, there's that 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:13.560 crazy woman outside talking to the raccoons again. Um. But 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:17.600 once they let you in for it's like it's a prison. 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:20.919 You know, you are there forever. It's like if I 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.160 say I'm not going to be there for thingsgiving or whatever, 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:24.800 They're like, what do you mean, what are you talking about. 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.400 That's how my relatives, all of my relatives that it's 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:30.320 that's the way it is. They're super They want to 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:35.680 know exactly what's in Boston. Everybody's in everybody's business, everybody. 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:39.040