Speaker 1: Can you believe it's already August? My friend? How in
Speaker 1: the world did that happen? Are we just lamenting that
Speaker 1: winter wouldn't end? And here we find ourselves in deep summer,
Speaker 1: thinking about snow banks and ice storms and remembering they
Speaker 1: weren't really that bad. How is your summer going? Are
Speaker 1: you soaking up the sun or you sitting in front
Speaker 1: of the A C unit? Wherever you find yourself, I
Speaker 1: hope there has been some creativity, some productivity, some contemplation,
Speaker 1: a whole lot of relaxation, and at least one or
Speaker 1: two good books on your summer schedule. And music, music, music,
Speaker 1: definitely music. What kind of music do you turn to
Speaker 1: when the days are long the sun is high? Feel
Speaker 1: good tunes are high on my list, as are all
Speaker 1: those nostalgic songs that take me back to my high
Speaker 1: school days. And I gotta admit a little hard rock
Speaker 1: makes a long car trip a whole lot more fun.
Speaker 1: Today's guest on love Someone is doing his part to
Speaker 1: add to our catalog of musical options. He is a
Speaker 1: prolific singer songwriter who just released his twelve studio album.
Speaker 1: You'll probably know him from his breakthrough, multi platinum hit
Speaker 1: Come On Get Higher from the album Some Mad Hope.
Speaker 1: If you're a sugar Land fan, maybe you heard him
Speaker 1: perform Run with Them from his critically acclaimed album Modern Love,
Speaker 1: which also included another huge hit, Faster Sings. His sad
Speaker 1: Heart spawned the hit single used to Be, which was
Speaker 1: also a chart climber. Quite possibly you've heard his music
Speaker 1: watching your favorite TV shows. He's been featured on in
Speaker 1: c I s On, Private Practice, Women's Murder, Uh, Scrubs,
Speaker 1: Men and Trees, One Tree Hill, and so many more
Speaker 1: shows and movies. He's performed on The Howard Stern Show.
Speaker 1: He's performed on Ellen, Jimmy Kimmel, Alive, Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 1: Rachel Ray, and the CMA Awards, to name a few.
Speaker 1: Matt Nathanson's blend of folk and rock and roll appeals
Speaker 1: to a wide wide audience. I love his lyrics. His
Speaker 1: lyrics get me in the heart every time he is
Speaker 1: a lyricist. They're meaningful, some might say magical, relatable, and
Speaker 1: so very very real. Matt's as authentic as it gets.
Speaker 1: He's also adorable. He is a delight to watch perform,
Speaker 1: which he does often solo, strumming an acoustical guitar in
Speaker 1: his signature style. More often he's accompanied by longtime collaborator
Speaker 1: and music director Aaron tapp Air and his on guitar
Speaker 1: and backup vocals, And sometimes you'll see him with a
Speaker 1: few bandmates who had percussion and bass to the lineup.
Speaker 1: What you will always see is Matt Nathanson smiling a
Speaker 1: genuine smile. He has a compelling desire to connect with others.
Speaker 1: I am so happy to welcome Matt aboard today to
Speaker 1: talk about his latest album. It's called Boston Accent. Didn't
Speaker 1: know he was born on the East Coast. A few
Speaker 1: of the singles have caught my attention, and his upcoming
Speaker 1: tour is going to be a whole lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: my friends with me on Love Someone today is uh
Speaker 1: such a cute e pie. I can't flirt with you though,
Speaker 1: um number one because this is like a professional show.
Speaker 1: And number two, you're married with a baby today. Our
Speaker 1: guest is the amazing the soundtrack for our life, Mr
Speaker 1: Matt Nathanson. I'm psyched to be here with you. Ps
Speaker 1: you can still flirt. Okay, what I'm saying, we got
Speaker 1: it and that's it's what makes the world spin good.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I've got my baby all of a
Speaker 1: sudden is like eleven. So she's like a powerhouse. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean like she went from being hold
Speaker 1: her in my arm. I've seen pictures of you with
Speaker 1: baby in arms. Now she's a big It's crazy. I
Speaker 1: think she has an apartment that she rented during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: I think that, like the pandemic has affected all of
Speaker 1: us in certain ways, but my literally my, when she
Speaker 1: was in fifth grade when it started, or fourth grade
Speaker 1: when it started, I think about mid fifth grade, she
Speaker 1: secretly got an apartment that she rents to get away
Speaker 1: from us. Yeah. Yeah, I have a thirteen year old
Speaker 1: who's um a little bit sassy. It's built into their
Speaker 1: genetic I don't understand I would have gotten it. Would
Speaker 1: I would be you would have gotten down. Oh I
Speaker 1: would have been. It would have been finished. And my
Speaker 1: kids says things that i've First of all, they're incredibly smart,
Speaker 1: they're incredibly sassy and uh and yet there's no way
Speaker 1: I would have survived growing up with that mouth. No, no,
Speaker 1: mine doesn't do the mouth. She does the eyes. I said,
Speaker 1: do not talk back to me like that. She says,
Speaker 1: I didn't say a word. Is that I saw you?
Speaker 1: Oh it's the eyes, the eye roll, and the glare
Speaker 1: she does, the stare off into space. When I'm giving
Speaker 1: her direction with her mouth half open, like, uh, I
Speaker 1: just can't hear a word you're saying, mom. And then
Speaker 1: when I get angry, like she will push my buttons
Speaker 1: until I get angry, and then it's the eye roll, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I am dealing with a psychopath. Totally. I've never felt
Speaker 1: more out of control in my life than I do
Speaker 1: when I'm getting mad. I'm like, So I went to
Speaker 1: pick my daughter up. She went to theater camp. That
Speaker 1: was one of her camps this summer. And so she
Speaker 1: went to one of the and she found her people
Speaker 1: right like these kids that she you know, singing rent
Speaker 1: and you know, singing, uh Hamilton and Hamilton's Hamilton's amazing. Oh,
Speaker 1: it was super amazing. So I went to go pick
Speaker 1: her up at this friend's house and the mom answered
Speaker 1: the door and I said, Hi, nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: I'm coming to pick up my daughter, you know, and uh,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, down the stairs like really fast,
Speaker 1: and then out the door. My kid just bolts for
Speaker 1: the car, and I go, Bubba, can you say like
Speaker 1: thank you? And she goes thank you and then goes
Speaker 1: to the car and I walk over and I go,
Speaker 1: what happened. Was it not a good hank? No, it
Speaker 1: was amazing. And I said, why did you run out
Speaker 1: of the house. She goes, I didn't want to stay
Speaker 1: too long because I was afraid we're gonna say something stupid.
Speaker 1: And I was like, dude, I'm functioning. I'm functioning almost
Speaker 1: fifty year old person. She's like, you have no filter.
Speaker 1: She's like, and I don't know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, my job is to interact
Speaker 1: with human beings like I can do this, you know,
Speaker 1: And she was not having any not having any part.
Speaker 1: This is all paid back for me because when I
Speaker 1: was growing up, my mom would wear curlers all day
Speaker 1: long and then take him out. Right before dad came home.
Speaker 1: She would she did that, you know, like the poster
Speaker 1: you see or the ads you see from the sixties.
Speaker 1: The she had the housecoat, dressed thing and curlers in
Speaker 1: her hair all day and then right before dad came home,
Speaker 1: she'd take the curlers out, comb her hair and make
Speaker 1: it look so pretty. But she would think it was
Speaker 1: appropriate to go out in public so long as she
Speaker 1: had red lipstick on, she was okay, even though there
Speaker 1: were curlers in her hair, and I would be like, Mom,
Speaker 1: could you just like drop me off here? No, she said,
Speaker 1: school is up there. I know, but high need X.
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to walk a little bit.
Speaker 1: Says it's raining. Uh oh, look there's billy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: run in over there in time. Damn. And now it's
Speaker 1: payback was in. We're not embarrassing. Oh, I'm so embarrassing
Speaker 1: to my kids. Look what we do. Like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: they don't know what we do. They don't know that.
Speaker 1: Your daughter does not know you're Matt Nathanson, heart throb
Speaker 1: of the nation, that you are the singer songwriter of
Speaker 1: every soundtrack of every TV show or movie I happen
Speaker 1: to bump into. Yeah, she definitely has zero cares about that.
Speaker 1: And I'll be like, she'll she'll do something and I'll say, well, Bubba,
Speaker 1: let me help you. I know how to do that.
Speaker 1: And she's like, you don't know how to do that,
Speaker 1: like in singing or something. And I'll be like, no,
Speaker 1: but I can. You know that it's my job kind
Speaker 1: of to do this, to do this. I know a
Speaker 1: little bit about this. She's like, no, you don't know.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Does does you have a son
Speaker 1: or a dog. Have seven sons and eight daughters, but
Speaker 1: I have five that are home. So the thirteen year
Speaker 1: old and the six year old are the ones that
Speaker 1: are now doing the I roll. Yeah. Yeah, they know
Speaker 1: more than we do as well. And the scary thing
Speaker 1: is they really do. They really do know a lot
Speaker 1: more than me. I blame the Internet. It is the Internet.
Speaker 1: It is totally the Internet. And there circle of friends. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they talk about headier stuff than we did. Yeah, much.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Like, I walked in on my
Speaker 1: seventeen year old the other day. She was having a
Speaker 1: sleepover because she was going back to the state that
Speaker 1: we adopted her out of to visit family and her godparents,
Speaker 1: and so she's like, can I have somebody spend the night.
Speaker 1: I'm like, sure, honey, who do you want to have?
Speaker 1: And then she listed off sixteen people and I like,
Speaker 1: that's that's not somebody, that is somebody's that's an army battalion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that our houses and that pig. She's look, that's okay,
Speaker 1: we'll crowd in my room. Maybe we'll sleep out on
Speaker 1: the trampoline. So she ended up having three girls spend
Speaker 1: the night, and I walked into their conversation and they're
Speaker 1: using the word intentional. Oh yeah, yeah, it's Mike. At five.
Speaker 1: My kid was using words that were like way advanced.
Speaker 1: And she still she'll process. She's a very quick processor,
Speaker 1: so she's able to sort of sum up what's going
Speaker 1: on and come up with kind of a night. And
Speaker 1: I've been teen. All I wanted to know was what
Speaker 1: David Cassidy still marry me even though I was a
Speaker 1: foot taller than him. Totally. I was lip sinking to
Speaker 1: Deaf Leopard at her age, like in my mom's room,
Speaker 1: pretending I was Joe Elliott the singer and deaf Leppard, like,
Speaker 1: and my mom had these leather pants and I was like,
Speaker 1: Joe Elliot wears leather pants. So I'm like on the
Speaker 1: floor of her bedroom trying to put on women's leather
Speaker 1: pants to lip sync to Deaf Leppard and she's talking
Speaker 1: about like the state of the Union. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: what is happening? I was drinking sprite and like, far
Speaker 1: did you know? Like, and she doesn't. She's just I'm
Speaker 1: doing stupid, I think, and she's just like advanced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kids today they blown me away. So what was the
Speaker 1: best thing that came out of COVID for you. So
Speaker 1: I think it's still emerging, but I think, um so
Speaker 1: everybody that I know, and I'm sure this is for
Speaker 1: you as well. Everybody started to um COVID ended, and
Speaker 1: then everybody has started to get Everyone saw their mortality,
Speaker 1: and everybody saw that they don't actually control much of
Speaker 1: anything in the world, and everybody started to get really
Speaker 1: kind of conservative in the true sense of the word, right,
Speaker 1: Everybody started conserving there, like, so we're living in a
Speaker 1: time where people's bandwidth is sort of taxed, and then
Speaker 1: everybody's feeling their limitations as humans, whether they know it
Speaker 1: or not. And for me, what's really happened is I've
Speaker 1: been able to figure out what's important to me more
Speaker 1: so than I ever have in my life, and I've
Speaker 1: started to kind of ratchet down on There's only a
Speaker 1: few things on my plate, and I'm only going to
Speaker 1: keep a few things on my plate, and that within
Speaker 1: that I can sort of find all the satisfaction and
Speaker 1: all the all the fulfillment that I need. So it's
Speaker 1: like my family making music and playing music and that's
Speaker 1: pretty much it, and my friends and and it was
Speaker 1: like before it's funny, before the pandemic, I used to
Speaker 1: do all these things and expand all this energy and
Speaker 1: all these directions, and I couldn't believe. I said to
Speaker 1: my wife this morning. I said, like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: I had time to do any of those things. Like
Speaker 1: life is short and precious and like we have to
Speaker 1: do the things we love. And I've just been focusing
Speaker 1: on that so hard, and it's continuing every day that
Speaker 1: I get further outside of it. I still feel this
Speaker 1: commitment to simplicity in a way that I think I
Speaker 1: knew in theory before, but I didn't know now. And
Speaker 1: I have this idea that people fetishize the idea of
Speaker 1: like moving to the woods and like simplifying and like
Speaker 1: just like bringing their own water. And you know this idea,
Speaker 1: Like on Instagram and on TikTok, you see people like
Speaker 1: living in cabins, like off the grid and they're like,
Speaker 1: this is the way to live. And I feel like
Speaker 1: people do that, like and I know, no shade on
Speaker 1: people that do that, but we were fetishizing that as
Speaker 1: a thing because we're not drawing boundaries in our own life.
Speaker 1: That's kind of an extreme way to draw a boundary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's to have boundaries drawn for you essentially right like,
Speaker 1: but sometimes sometimes that were I mean that worked for
Speaker 1: me during during the pandemic. I decided, I am not
Speaker 1: going to be stuck here, shut off from the world,
Speaker 1: with five kids who are going crazy. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do it. So I did just what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I went to our ranch, which it does have running
Speaker 1: water and it does have electricity, but not much else.
Speaker 1: But then you came back. So and this is my
Speaker 1: point is that I think as humans, it's our job
Speaker 1: to deal in human collision and deal with each other,
Speaker 1: and that we and the idea of moving somewhere and
Speaker 1: sort of like piecing out is wonderful, and I back it,
Speaker 1: except that it's like we're not using our machines in
Speaker 1: the right way. It's like, in order for society to
Speaker 1: continue and to evolve and to move in a direction
Speaker 1: of like community and togetherness, we have to be involved.
Speaker 1: And so this is the part that I think is
Speaker 1: really important. It's like you have to show up. And
Speaker 1: part of showing up is like not only for your family,
Speaker 1: which is one aspect of showing up, but as a
Speaker 1: community and as a group. And and I'm the first person.
Speaker 1: I'm probably the worst team player you've ever seen. But
Speaker 1: like I have to tell you that I think that
Speaker 1: the only way that the world is going to move
Speaker 1: out of where we are is we have to show
Speaker 1: up for human beings and we have to show kindness
Speaker 1: and we have to be in the mix. At least
Speaker 1: that's how I feel. And so as much as I
Speaker 1: love the idea, love the idea, we have some land
Speaker 1: and we're build a house, you know, this kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and I really put it into like fast forward, like
Speaker 1: let's do this, so let's move to New Hampshire, like
Speaker 1: let's go because that's where I grew up. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's awesome. Our kid will be psyched,
Speaker 1: it'll be the best. And then and my wife was
Speaker 1: the one that was like, no, no, no, we're here,
Speaker 1: like this is what we do, like it's our job
Speaker 1: to sort of show up. And I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah yeah this is She's You're right. So
Speaker 1: but I back. I back a good vacation. But your music,
Speaker 1: your music is definitely touching, Matt and inspiring. And like
Speaker 1: I said, I don't have TV in my house, but
Speaker 1: I do have guilty pleasures and so after my show
Speaker 1: is over at night, I you know, I'll watch something
Speaker 1: on you know, one of the one of the streaming services. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and every time I turn it on, there you are.
Speaker 1: Oh it's fun. I love soundtracking, the the soundtrack of
Speaker 1: our life. Yeah. Yeah, that's the other thing. Covid. I
Speaker 1: got a studio down the street from my house in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I can walk to it. It's got a
Speaker 1: live room and it's got my room, and then I
Speaker 1: share it with another kid who's got a live room
Speaker 1: on the other side. And I've just made a lot
Speaker 1: of music, more music than I've ever made before. You
Speaker 1: used to have to fly somewhere to co write, and
Speaker 1: now zoom has made it so I can co I
Speaker 1: co wrote all through the pandemic. I started like a
Speaker 1: side band with a couple of writers. I put out
Speaker 1: a YouTube covers record of my favorite record on the
Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary. I feel like technology has made it so
Speaker 1: that we can do these kind of you can you
Speaker 1: can do your show from a barn. It's like it's
Speaker 1: kind of a magical time. I can do my show
Speaker 1: from and you where. How awesome is that? But so yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'll play you some songs. Maybe, uh, I have
Speaker 1: a song called the new record. I've got a song
Speaker 1: called Pictures, my favorite yeah, about the beauty of and
Speaker 1: I think you asked about what the pandemic has taught me.
Speaker 1: It's like that there's beauty. I'm always in pursuit of
Speaker 1: some sort of something and that that is going to
Speaker 1: somehow be the answer. And what I realized is that
Speaker 1: the answer is here right now in every minute that
Speaker 1: I'm in when I'm in the shower, if I can
Speaker 1: just focus on my feet, on the on the ground
Speaker 1: and the water on my neck, it's like that that's
Speaker 1: a beautiful miracle of a moment. And so Pictures is
Speaker 1: a song about you know, people paint pictures of places
Speaker 1: like this, People dream dreams of the life that we live.
Speaker 1: That idea that people don't realize that you're living in
Speaker 1: this moment. You know. Again, we sort of fetishize the
Speaker 1: other as this, oh my god, well what they have
Speaker 1: is great. But I got to walk down to my
Speaker 1: studio today and then I opened the door, and I
Speaker 1: have a place where I can make music. You know,
Speaker 1: I get to be with my wife and wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning with my wife. It's like everything we
Speaker 1: do I get to drink tea. I have tea in
Speaker 1: this mug that I love, and it's like I got
Speaker 1: to put and it's like everything is kind of a
Speaker 1: wonder And I don't mean to be so hippie to
Speaker 1: be about it, but it's a it is true. We're
Speaker 1: in these meat suits, like on a rock, like hurling
Speaker 1: through space and we get to do this magical stuff.
Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible. I love that song. I love Pictures.
Speaker 1: I love the whole album, but that was by far
Speaker 1: my favorite. Because I'm a lyricist, I listen for words. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love the stories. I love the stories when they're
Speaker 1: woven together, especially the way you do it so cleverly,
Speaker 1: like thanks. You could be a country artist. You twist
Speaker 1: a word you play Like when I listen to your music, Matt,
Speaker 1: I hear you playing with words. That's super rad. I
Speaker 1: I and the country thing is incredibly thank you. I
Speaker 1: take a lot of time and I invest a lot
Speaker 1: of energy into lyrics because, like you, they're super important
Speaker 1: to me as a listener. They're the thing that I mean.
Speaker 1: I love a good journey guitar solo, or I love
Speaker 1: a good you know sing along. Course, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: But but when the lyrics move in a way that
Speaker 1: you can follow and invest in, I think that's really
Speaker 1: important in pictures. There's a song on this record called
Speaker 1: German Cars. I made this record growing up in Boston
Speaker 1: and then moving to California. I've always tried very hard
Speaker 1: to not be from Boston. I tried very hard to
Speaker 1: like distance myself from my family. Oh it's the ps
Speaker 1: it is the best. But when you grow up there,
Speaker 1: you want to get I wanted to get as far
Speaker 1: away as I could, and I was never My family
Speaker 1: was always a little bit um. Now. I was in
Speaker 1: as a young kid. I was put into school at
Speaker 1: age nine, and so I was I was never really
Speaker 1: around my family. And then summers I would spend two months.
Speaker 1: Awhere did you go to school? You were in boarding school? Yeah,
Speaker 1: from the time I was fifth grade on. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I went and I wasn't rich, but I went to
Speaker 1: school with very rich people. So I went to school
Speaker 1: with like Kennedy's and Kawasaki's and and I like to
Speaker 1: say it was like most of these kids were the
Speaker 1: jewelry that their parents brought out during like holidays, right
Speaker 1: like they would put them in the you know, put
Speaker 1: them away and then they bring them out. You've lived
Speaker 1: some very opposite not just opposite ends of the country,
Speaker 1: but opposite lifestyles totally. And so I wrote this record
Speaker 1: as it's called Boston Accent, and it's kind of it's
Speaker 1: kind of a celebration of my roots because I find
Speaker 1: I have a song on the record called Boston Accent,
Speaker 1: and it was I wrote it based on every time
Speaker 1: I hear someone who even has a twinge of a
Speaker 1: New England accent, I get like, I feel like I
Speaker 1: can trust them. I feel like I'm home. I feel
Speaker 1: like I've got these like dare my people. They could
Speaker 1: be serial killers and as long as they're like if
Speaker 1: they got a Boston accent and they're like dude, how
Speaker 1: you doing? My god? You know what, I hug them.
Speaker 1: But you know, Dedam is like, that's what's all about.
Speaker 1: So you know what I disc when I lived there
Speaker 1: is it was hard to get to know people. I
Speaker 1: will talk to Advince Post and it was hard to
Speaker 1: get to know people because they're like, Wow, there's that
Speaker 1: crazy woman outside talking to the raccoons again. Um. But
Speaker 1: once they let you in for it's like it's a prison.
Speaker 1: You know, you are there forever. It's like if I
Speaker 1: say I'm not going to be there for thingsgiving or whatever,
Speaker 1: They're like, what do you mean, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1: That's how my relatives, all of my relatives that it's
Speaker 1: that's the way it is. They're super They want to
Speaker 1: know exactly what's in Boston. Everybody's in everybody's business, everybody.
Speaker 1: Once you're in, once you're in, if you're not in,
Speaker 1: forget about it. You could be you know, they could
Speaker 1: be stealing your cattle. That the converter and broad Daylight.
Speaker 1: Nobody would even tell you. They wouldn't. They'd be like, dude,
Speaker 1: use the other saw. That's not gonna cut it. That's
Speaker 1: totally how it would work. We've always hated that guy.
Speaker 1: Just cut it out. But once you're in, Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It is the fiercest love I've ever felt. I agree,
Speaker 1: and and it's funny. So my best friend is still
Speaker 1: my friend from when I was five. My guitar player
Speaker 1: in my band I've known for thirty years. He worked
Speaker 1: with me and we grew up in the same town.
Speaker 1: My wife and I have been together for thirty one years.
Speaker 1: It's like I definitely adopted that that part of who
Speaker 1: I am is there. I'm surrounded by people who have
Speaker 1: known all my life, Like that's just really how I
Speaker 1: do it. And I realized how much of what Boston
Speaker 1: is is inside of me, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And so this record, yeah, and so this record is
Speaker 1: like a celebration of that. There's a song called German
Speaker 1: Cars that's about going to school with rich kids, and
Speaker 1: the chorus says and finding sort of someone you can like,
Speaker 1: summer love in Boston to me is like the ultimate,
Speaker 1: Like I was in love with this girl and we
Speaker 1: used to swim in Walden Pond like because we you know,
Speaker 1: Lexington is so close to Waldon Pond. So growing up
Speaker 1: in Lexington where the Revolution happened, I would walk by
Speaker 1: every day of my life houses that were from seventeen
Speaker 1: seventy you know what you name it, and it was
Speaker 1: all lost on me. And then going to school with
Speaker 1: these kids that were like not being the they're the
Speaker 1: the lyric in the song that I wanted to that
Speaker 1: I think you'd appreciate. We hated the way everybody talked
Speaker 1: about their father's money and their summer jobs, princes and
Speaker 1: princesses trying to get lost in German cars that their
Speaker 1: parents bought. Right. That was like this idea of growing
Speaker 1: up with rich kids who were sort of like wayward
Speaker 1: and sort of broken and disassociate disconnected from their community,
Speaker 1: finding their own communities, and then myself finding my own
Speaker 1: community outside of them because I didn't feel like I
Speaker 1: related to what they were doing, and it's like it's
Speaker 1: just all about The pandemic really got me thinking about
Speaker 1: who I am and where I'm from on a literal
Speaker 1: level and on like a metaphorical heady level. So it
Speaker 1: did the same thing to me so much that I
Speaker 1: went back to my hometown and bought the radio station. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about about, the first station I
Speaker 1: was ever on that. Yeah, it was. It was, And
Speaker 1: it has been an amazing year reconnecting with teachers that
Speaker 1: I had, and like you, the people that surround me
Speaker 1: have been around me my whole life. That's our power center.
Speaker 1: It is because those are the people that that can
Speaker 1: see through the bs, that can see through everything and
Speaker 1: call you out on stuff and say no, you need
Speaker 1: to you know, you need to do this. You need
Speaker 1: to or you need to not do this, or why
Speaker 1: are you putting all your energy into that thing when
Speaker 1: that's that's not even something you love. Well. Trust the
Speaker 1: trust element is the important part, right, and that's the
Speaker 1: other thing. Just salute back to the pandemic idea. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you can trust the humans that you've got, that's
Speaker 1: a small circle of people, like very small, it's a handful,
Speaker 1: And so you want to really double down on loving
Speaker 1: those people, you know what I mean, as much as
Speaker 1: you can and spend. And since energy is finite, you
Speaker 1: don't want to push that energy out to people that
Speaker 1: may or may not be able to even understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying, right, like interpret everything you do wrong. The
Speaker 1: people that are in your inner circle are forgiving, and
Speaker 1: they understand the language you have created together, and you
Speaker 1: have your own language. Yeah, when you say love to them,
Speaker 1: they know what love means. That when you say friendship
Speaker 1: to them, they know you know everybody else it's like
Speaker 1: up for grabs. Yeah, you are a very very fortunate man,
Speaker 1: and so are you. I am. I am. I tell
Speaker 1: people all the time, I am the most fortunate woman
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Speaker 1: The tour was rescheduled four times because of COVID. We
Speaker 1: kept kind of moving it. And the record release Boston Accent,
Speaker 1: this album was finished in so all this stuff has
Speaker 1: been you know, long time coming, perculating, marinating. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, something that just gets better. And the more
Speaker 1: it's see it's like it's all the flavor seeps in.
Speaker 1: And also the thing, I played a show this weekend,
Speaker 1: just like a one off private show, but I remembered
Speaker 1: how important it is to be with human beings and
Speaker 1: to be like communing and being able to sing and
Speaker 1: laugh and be together. And that's the kind of thing
Speaker 1: again that we but that muscle got really weak during
Speaker 1: the pandemic because everybody got to be insular. Everyone was
Speaker 1: told to stay in, stay on your couch, don't go out.
Speaker 1: And so playing the show and being on stage with
Speaker 1: people playing music and then interacting with the humans in
Speaker 1: the crowd and and having this sort of cyclical thing.
Speaker 1: I came home the next day and I woke up
Speaker 1: and I felt whole in a way that I hadn't
Speaker 1: felt whole in a I was hesitant to even admit
Speaker 1: how important it was to me to have that connection
Speaker 1: because it's it's energy. It's energy. Yeah, we need that
Speaker 1: energy as humans. Some people need time away to fill
Speaker 1: their energy, you know, reservoirs. You and I we need
Speaker 1: to be on stage, communicating and connecting in a heart
Speaker 1: way with people to get that energy filled. I call
Speaker 1: it the human collision. And I'm an introvert extrovert, so
Speaker 1: I do need time away. But like once I'm in it,
Speaker 1: I think that humans are best when they are a
Speaker 1: team and and that's really what happens on stage is
Speaker 1: like not only am I a team member with my band,
Speaker 1: but I'm a team member with like everybody in the room,
Speaker 1: and we're and we're elevating this thing together to this
Speaker 1: place where we could never get to without each other. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's true. And I see that when whenever you're performing
Speaker 1: or I watch any of your anything, you know, I
Speaker 1: see that connection and I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: I also love pictures like a yeah yeah. But the
Speaker 1: fact that so many people I talked to hundreds of
Speaker 1: people a week on the show. So many people are
Speaker 1: waiting for that thing to make them happy, waiting for
Speaker 1: the marriage, waiting for the right person, waiting for their
Speaker 1: kids to finish high school and get out on their own,
Speaker 1: waiting for waiting for the degree to be finished, waiting
Speaker 1: for their time in the military to be up, waiting
Speaker 1: for whatever the you know, the happiness is just or
Speaker 1: like right out of reach. I talked to a lady
Speaker 1: last night, Oh my gosh, I must have talked to
Speaker 1: her for half an hour, who had a thousand things
Speaker 1: that she thought she needed before she could be happy.
Speaker 1: What you're saying is the thing is you were talking
Speaker 1: about being fortunate. We are all incredibly fortunate to have
Speaker 1: the time that we have, and like COVID taught us,
Speaker 1: that time is finite and we don't actually control anything,
Speaker 1: and so all we get to control is how we
Speaker 1: interpret the experience we're having and then an action that
Speaker 1: we take after that. That's it. That's all we've got,
Speaker 1: and live in it living fully. Every time I hear
Speaker 1: the word metaverse, it just just like fingernails on a chalkboard.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why do you want to live in a
Speaker 1: pretend world where our world is so beautiful? It's incredible.
Speaker 1: You get to brush our teeth, like we have literally
Speaker 1: a thing that makes our teeth clean and we get
Speaker 1: to do It's like the stupidest things are these a miracles? Dogs? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we get to we get to have
Speaker 1: dogs at our house. We get to have cats living
Speaker 1: with us that we feed and they do their thing,
Speaker 1: and it's like even and you know, it's just incredible.
Speaker 1: We are all fortunate, and it's just a matter of
Speaker 1: if we're able to see it, and especially those of
Speaker 1: us that have our hierarchy of needs met, then it's
Speaker 1: like it should be all sky from from here on
Speaker 1: out for us. Yeah, it should be. But you would
Speaker 1: be shocked and you wouldn't but to hear people call
Speaker 1: me night after night, day after day who are waiting
Speaker 1: to be happy. Be happy. Now find your joy. Now,
Speaker 1: go get Matt's new album, listen to it and really
Speaker 1: listen to the lyrics and try to live in that moment.
Speaker 1: That's going to be my advice and my Delilah dilemmas
Speaker 1: for the next month. I love it, Matt. Thank you
Speaker 1: for all your time and thank you for Salila. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. I so love hanging with you. Thank
Speaker 1: you for spending all this time with us. God bless you,
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see it in concert. Awesome.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you. Thanks so much, Talila,
Speaker 1: it has been so great having Matt join us today.
Speaker 1: His newest album, Boston Accent, is out right now. Tickets
Speaker 1: are on sale for his upcoming tour that kicks off
Speaker 1: in St. Louis, Missouri, August one, heads east from there,
Speaker 1: winds up back on the West Coast in October, concluding
Speaker 1: on October nine in Los Angeles. If you are into
Speaker 1: the authenticity of the singer songwriter experience as much as
Speaker 1: I am, you will not want to miss the opportunity
Speaker 1: to catch up with this amazing man. You can find
Speaker 1: all things Matt Nathanson related, including tour information, at Matt
Speaker 1: Nathanson dot com m A T t in A T
Speaker 1: h A N s O N dot com. Matt's pretty
Speaker 1: prolific on social media. To find him on Facebook, on Instagram,
Speaker 1: on TikTok, doing his thing, making music, being silly, being vulnerable,
Speaker 1: and doing his best to connect with each of us,
Speaker 1: one heart at a time, while trying to help make
Speaker 1: sense of this chaotic, beautiful world. I'll keep trying to
Speaker 1: do the same, bringing inspiring guests alongside on this podcast,
Speaker 1: sharing my evenings with you on the radio, and sending
Speaker 1: a few minutes of love your way each weekday with
Speaker 1: my new daily podcast, Hate It's Delilah. While the summer
Speaker 1: is heating up, remember to stay cool, drink lots and
Speaker 1: lots of water, and take some time to slow down
Speaker 1: and love someone