WEBVTT - She-Hulk Premiere + Ask the Maester! 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:00.800 Warning. 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.280 This podcast contains spoilers for the first episode of She 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.160 Hulk Attorney at Law and a little bit of thor 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.520 Love and Thunder. So definitely, if you have not watched 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:12.720 the first episode of She Hulk Attorney at Law, go 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:13.600 watch that right now. 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:33.040 You have been warned. Hello, Welcome. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:35.440 My name is Jason Conceepcio, and welcome to x R 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.919 Vision The Crooked Podcast, where we dive deep into your 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.880 favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. In today's episode, 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:47.760 in the previously on the latest from the WB Discovery saga, 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:52.919 the latest news on Ezra Miller, We're gonna talk some acts, comics, 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:58.720 crossover event news, some X Men, and the triumphant return 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:03.240 of the Ask. The May segment actually its first appearance 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.200 here on x ray Vision. In the airlock, we'll be 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.639 talking about She Hulk episode one of Fantastic and Fun 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:16.120 thirty minutes of Disney Plus Television, and of course to 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.120 talk about all of that with me. Today is the 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.880 number one she Hulk herself, the number one comics expert. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.640 She's hulking out, but only when she wants to hulk out. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.280 She is Rosy Night. Hello. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:35.360 Yes, the power control, self control, How you doing. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.120 I'm doing well, Rosie. How are you? 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.679 Yeah, I'm good. I'm glad. I'm glad that we've seen 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.319 she Hulk. I feel like we've been talking about it 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.400 for so long and it was just so great, so 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.240 I'm just stoked to talk about it. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.760 How is the reception on Godzillabin. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.840 It's actually been just really amazing. I feel very lucky. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.120 We got so much great support from people who listen 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.400 to the show and from the x ray vision community. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.600 Loads of really lovely reviews I have been told about. 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.279 I got some really cool feedback, I think from people 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.280 that I really care about and respect, and from my 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.400 friends like you, and there's loads of good stuff. So 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.920 I feel very lucky, and I'm very excited to hopefully 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.040 try and do more stuff with all of our soon. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:19.560 So I'm feeling good. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:24.480 About what a talented human being, action packed episodes. 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:25.240 Let's jump in. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.160 War Warner Brothers Discovery News folks. First of all, the 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:36.440 CW has been sold next to our Media Group, the 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.680 largest television station owner in the US, is set to 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:45.720 acquire a seventy five percent stake in that television network. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.840 Of impossibly beautiful. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:55.000 Actors taking part in various stories many of them DC adaptations. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.960 The CW has been co owned by Warner Brothers Discovery 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.360 in paramount since two thousand and six, when the WBN 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.400 upn MERSI into one channel. Each original partner will retain 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.160 a twelve point five ownership stake and will continue to 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:12.560 produce contact for the network. The CW famously not profitable 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.480 despite the many, many fans that it has. 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:19.079 Of your thoughts on this, Rosie, I. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.600 Find this to be a very interesting choice. We've talked 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.760 quite extensively about this deal, and one of the big 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.120 things that we've taken away, especially from the investi cale 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:34.359 and just general reporting. Zaslav the new head of and 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.520 kind of predominant owner of WB with WB Discovery. He 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:41.840 loves linear TV aka broadcast TV, channel TV channel TV 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.880 that you don't stream or select, So this to me 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.600 just seems absolutely mind blowing. I love the CW. I 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:54.480 feel like even the stuff that I don't necessarily love, 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.200 Like I'm not the world's biggest Arrowverse fan, but I 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.000 will proudly say, and you can quote me on this, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.680 like there is no DCEU in the way it is today. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.320 Without that, nobody knows who the flash is. If you 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.200 don't have that show. Nobody knows what the multiverse is 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.360 if you don't have legions of families and moms and 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.320 dads and grandparents watching these crossovers where they introduce these 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.680 ideas like crisis on Infinite Earth. I think this is, 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.440 in my opinion, a missed opportunity if it was up 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.960 to me. You know, we talk about this a lot, 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:26.320 like let us do it, But if it was up 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.600 to me, I would have taken ownership of the CW. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.600 The reason the CW has never been profitable as a channel, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.440 though the shows on it were incredibly profitable with a 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.360 second window deal they had with Netflix. For example, CW 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.479 doesn't exist in other countries. Riverdale or the Aravus shows, 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.000 those are Netflix shows in other countries and they made 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.880 a lot of money doing that. The CW has an 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.719 app called CW Seed, and every single show on both 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.680 on the channel goes to either CW Seed or the 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.240 CW main app twenty four hours afterwards. If you take 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.960 that away, people will just watch it on the channel 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.080 right Like to me, in my opinion, I would have 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:08.919 made a DCTV show or basically just rerunning Batman, the 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:13.800 animated series. Also, you know, Wonder Woman potentially trying to 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.120 get the Batman sixty six for that space, the old 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.000 Shazam show. There's so much syndicate stuff that they could 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.599 syndicate before you even get to the arrow Verse and 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:26.560 all that other stuff. I think this will in the 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.480 future be seen as a mistake. But I also I 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.760 watch a lot of the Next Star channels now they 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.039 do a lot of syndicated sitcom channels and movie channels, 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.720 so like I like broadcast TV, I'm sure it'll be interesting, 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.480 but it's a missed opportunity. There is no comic book 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.920 TV network right now in an age where that is 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.120 so profitable. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.880 I spent a lot of time on the Island of 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.280 Leon you with Oliver, although I did check out in 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.360 later seasons. But you have to say, I mean, you're 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.120 absolutely right about it. Yeah, one no DCEU without Errow. 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:05.839 Also mean the only successful adaptation of Crisis on Infed 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:11.160 Earth's for the screen happened in the Flash in twenty nineteen, 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.080 and it might be the only one we see for 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:13.960 a while. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.640 Literally and not just that. Like it's hard to explain 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.840 if you haven't watched these shows, because it feels very overwhelming, right, 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.920 But like Legends of Tomorrow is one of the queerest, 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:30.240 most inclusive, experimental, weird TV shows on TV, full stop. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.640 It Without that, we don't get a lot of other 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.520 things like Doom Patrol, Like there's these there's these different 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.960 spaces that they've been able to navigate and explore through 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.920 the lens of Oh it's a superhero show, and Legends 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.280 of Tomorrow is that also. I just have to say, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.640 in ten years, people will look back at Riverdale, which 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.479 is an archie comics show but was made by Warner 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:52.960 Brothers and did run on the seat. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.680 Way truly one of the most unhinged telling they will say, 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.880 like I ever have it. We just let's just like 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.600 for a moment, let's just like drill down on how insane. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.839 I don't watch it, but I have people that watch it, 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.040 who have who keep me abreast of just. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.320 How off the real nuts that show has become. 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.520 It's so experimental, it's so weird, it's incredibly queer, it's 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.600 totally outrageous. I mean, just the first the logline for 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.240 the first season was obviously like Archie meets twin Peaks, right, 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.240 so you already start there. First first season is like 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.600 a murder mystery quite standard. By the second season, you're 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.400 on your like third serial killer. By the third season, 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:36.440 it's a Dungeons and Dragons game that's taken over the town, 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:41.320 made everyone addicted to like a kool aid drug. And 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.520 also they have a drug called Jingle Jangle that is 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.160 like a legit problem in Riverdale. There's also a part 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:52.600 where Hiram laud Shoes, Veronica's dad is trying to sell 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.080 the town to turn it into like a supermax prison. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.720 Then that stuff is all very minor when you get 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:03.280 to the stuff nowadays where you're talking about alternate universes 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.480 that have to be saved and ended by certain people 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:11.120 having sex together, bombs, Archie being a criminal. Oh also okay, so, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.200 and that's before we even get to the fact that 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.280 that's all ended spoiler alert by like Jughead having to 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.880 write the comics, the Archie comics. That's how like he 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.920 stops the time. It's unbelievable stuff. And it also is 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:28.320 like it's hard to put into words how brilliantly weird 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.320 the show is, and how Roberto Aguaisakassa, who's just totally 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:35.680 brilliant comics creator and was CEO of Archie and is now, 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.199 you know, was running show running Riverdale, which was his project. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.800 He plays it so sincere. Like there's a really famous 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.360 moment where Archie goes to prison, like like a youth jail, 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.120 but it kind of looks more like an old fashioned 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:52.200 jail because time is very mixed up there, and he's 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.280 talking to the kids in the prison yard and he's like, 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.040 you didn't go to high school, you know, because you 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.000 were like a drug mule or whatever bad stuff having 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.920 to and he's like, that means that you never experienced, 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:06.400 you know, the unbelievable highs and devastating lows of high 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.000 school football. Like it's so well played. There's also an 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.600 episode where Archie fights with a bear, so it's just 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.560 it's unbelievable, and I feel like that is gonna be missing. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.360 That show has like twenty four episodes a season. It's 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.640 a full season show. Like those kind of things get 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.680 lost in the streaming world and that I'm sad about it. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:28.640 I think it will be fine, but I think this 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.040 was a missed opportunity. And also I think it shows 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.680 once again that what's going on at Warner Brothers now 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:40.200 there is at least some kind of misunderstanding of how 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.440 the DC brand has stayed relevant because a big part 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:47.240 of it is is tell these shows. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:48.400 The latest in Nezra Miller. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:53.560 Notably, last week, The Hollywood Reporter published a story talking 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:58.080 about the three strategies that Warner Brothers had on deck 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:05.800 to deal with the ongoing and continuing the Ezra Miller incidents, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:12.240 and one of them was, Ezra goes into counseling, and 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:16.520 this provides a pathway for WB to WB Discovery to 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:21.760 save the flash movie. And just a few days ago, 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:27.000 Ezra release a statement saying essentially that they've gone into counseling. 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.320 It reads, in part quote, having recently gone through a 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.600 time of intense crisis, I now understand that I'm suffering 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.240 complex mental health issues, and I've begun ongoing treatment. I 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.319 want to apologize to everyone that I have alarmed and 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.360 upset with my past behavior. I am committed doing the 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.600 necessary work to getting back to a healthy, safe, and 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.640 productive stage in my life. So it looks like we're 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:50.400 going with that strategy now I've been. It's I was 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.400 thinking about, man, you know, like I know, two hundred 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.840 fifty million dollars is a lot of money, Like an 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.520 amount of money that it's you can't even you actually 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.320 fat that you can't comprom and how much money that is. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.440 But it still feels like, man, why try and save this? 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.640 And you know, I was the more I was reading 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:12.559 about The Flash and its position in the DCEU, it's 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.640 it's the Connector movie. It's like an Avengers movie. It's 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.200 the movie that was going to bring in all the 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.680 various Batman and Batman characters. It was going to be 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.000 the movie that the rest of the ongoing DCEU film 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.839 offerings were going to be in part based upon. And 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:36.440 it would have been like having to recast like Captain 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:41.880 America Civil War without Chris Evans and figure out like 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.720 how do you do it without Chris Evans? So this 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.920 I think, let's I'm not excusing it, but I but 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:52.000 this is why I think they are going so to 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.040 the mat to try and save this movie that by 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:59.520 any kind of like reasonable standard, because you know, the 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:05.120 allegation against Ezra are incredibly serious, like incredibly serious, and 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.040 not at all resolved, So it would seem to be 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.360 like the you know, the responsible thing would be just like, okay, 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:16.640 let's scrap this movie. The reason, in my opinion that 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.680 they can't is because it is. You know, we often 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.120 refer to movies as tent poles. It's like the tent 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.720 pole holding up the entire tent of DC movies, and 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.040 if you pull that one out, now, all of a sudden, 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:31.040 you have to do a bunch of surgery on those movies. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:37.160 And now you're talking about billions of dollars. That's my theory. No, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:41.520 But all of which is to say, man, this is 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.559 still troubling, still extremely troubling. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:44.559 What do you think of my theory? 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.160 I think your theory is right from everything that I 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.480 understand about this movie, that I've heard about it, that's 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.480 been rumored about it, that has been replied about it. 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.640 This was supposed to be that movie. I think the 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.880 reason I think that is the reason that they are 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.599 working so hard to save it. I also don't understand 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.520 that from the place where we are now, which from 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.760 what I understand what zaz Levs said is like they 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.920 want to start something new, like a ten year plan 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.280 with the MCU. This is the opposite of that that 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.720 MCU did not begin with a giant team up movie 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.880 that included fifty different versions. Now, what I wonder is 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.080 building off your theory I wonder if this was going 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.040 to connect everything together and essentially end it. I wonder 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.440 if that's what their prison is or pree crisis or something, 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.720 and then you everything after this is separate, you know, 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.000 I wonder if that's also it. This strange thing is 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.960 as well from reports that girl was supposed to be 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.720 in this movie as part of a new Justice League. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.600 What happens now that movie's not happening. There's so many 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.360 questionable things, but you're definitely right. I have heard many 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.800 things about the different eras of DC that will be 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:56.839 bought into this movie and the way they're going to 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.520 use different characters, so that would make a lot of sense. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.000 But also, like you said, my biggest takeaway from this 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.599 is just like it is unresolved. We do not this 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:12.000 this statement. My feelings on this statement are I hope 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.680 that it is true because I want Ezra to get help, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.640 But I also want to know whereas Takota Ironize, the 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.120 child that they were taking around with them while all 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.480 this was going on. You know, where are the family 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.160 that was living at Ezra's house in Vermont and who 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.360 hasn't been heard on social media or kind of been 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:37.160 heard from since July I very much hope that Ezra's 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.760 getting help, but I also hope the people that their 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.640 behavior and their crisis is impacted are getting help. And this, 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.160 to me, it reads a little bit more like a 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.120 that studio plan the Hollywood Reporter laid out, because the 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.200 idea was that the idea is Ezra makes a statement, 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.560 Ezra gets counseling, and then you can use Ezra in 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.480 limited press for the movie. I don't I just don't 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.440 wish this possible. That's just it's still not possible. And 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.280 is this movie really going to come out in June 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.760 twenty twenty three? This movie is almost like to me, 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.400 this is like the New New Mutants. I will not 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.760 believe this movie comes out until the day we see 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.840 it come out, till the days as I will be questioned. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.920 And New Mutants, by the way, just a normal bad movie. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:24.800 That's all just like a normal studio studio stuff like 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.880 that's all just like a normal bad movie. Let's talk 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.360 comics for a second, Rosie. I have been letting my 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.040 stack grow and grow and grow and grow and grow 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.160 and grow and grow and go grow except for problem, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:43.280 except of course, for God Silver Spatra. I carve got 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.840 time of course to peruse that piece of genius. But 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.360 I have been diving back into my stack and most 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.040 notably my ex family, and I just wanted to shout 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:59.320 out because the current act Day of Judgment crossover series crossover. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:00.240 Event is happening now. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:02.640 I haven't got to that yet, but I wanted to 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:06.400 kind of like, you know, paved get on the road 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.360 that paves the way towards that crossover. So I've been 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.800 reading Immortal x Men, which is kind of like the 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.800 fallout from a bunch of Krakoa stuff. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.760 When it seemed like. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:23.960 The very tightly held secret mutant intel that mutants are 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.680 now immortal, able to be reborn again and again and 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.680 again on the island of Kakoa, which is a state secret. 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.320 No one knows that on Earth. That almost got out 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:38.200 because of the endeavors of one intrepid reporter who then 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.080 had his mind wiped. But that information is still out there. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.240 And this leads into a Mortal x Men, which has 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.120 been running now four or five issues. So I started 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:49.920 reading Imortal x Men, and I just want to say, 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:51.960 Mortal x Men is fucking great. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.320 It's so good, it's it's great. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.480 I actually got to like, I got sometimes at Polgon 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.720 they run I mean, they run this month of Polygon, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.720 but sometimes I get to write them where you write 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.680 about like a first issue, and I got to write 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.240 about issue one of the Mortal x Men and it 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.120 was just so good. It's like if you're an ex fan. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.320 One of the things in the X Men community people 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.280 had wanted for a long time was this a book 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.040 about the Quiet Council, which is the council that runs Prokoha, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:23.960 the secret mutant community. And this book begins with that concept, 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.520 but the question of who is on the council, Yeah, 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:31.040 what is the council's role, the many machinations of the 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.400 different people who want to be on the council. It's 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.800 very cool stuff, and there's I mean, this whole book 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.320 just makes me so happy because I love destiny and 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.159 I love destiny a mystique, and this is a big 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.600 even from the stuff that led into this. This is 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.560 a big destiny and mystique kind of arc. And then yeah, 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:55.000 this leads into the current big crossover AX, which is 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.560 going to be a really big deal because it's Avengers, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.480 x Men, Eternals, So you can kind of grass from 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.320 that the groups that may be important coming into the 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.600 MCU and into the kind of new phase of Marvel. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.159 Here's what I'm loving about Immortal and the kind of 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.439 fallout from Krokoa that's led into Immortal and X Men 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:17.879 Red and stuff. Is that, you know, for previous to 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.920 the Krocoa events, the X Men, for like twenty years, 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.200 there's been some great runs, but like since the two 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.359 thousands as and this is nothing new, the X Men 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.440 have kind of been on their ass. They were almost white, 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.280 all the mutants were almost wiped out, and then they 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:37.000 had to run this like shadow war against various extremist groups, 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.879 and then they had to bring mutants back and that 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.199 was a whole thing. And the great thing about where 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.480 the X Men and the mutant community is now is, 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.600 first of all, they have assumed they're rightful place in 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.359 the Marvel Commics universe, which is just a power center, 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.400 a powerful nation of super beings. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:18:59.160 And two. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.960 So it's really cool is and this is something we've 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:07.159 never quite seen before. It's that classic problem of now 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:11.000 the enemy is us now. It's they're so powerful. You 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:16.560 have all these different groups vying for control, moving making 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.800 secret moves. You have various secrets that are hidden from 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:25.200 even the top, you know, leadership of the Mutant community, 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.320 and it's just really great stuff. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:29.760 It's really really great stuff. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.199 Yeah, it's so much fun. And I think something that 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.280 they do that I know you would have loved, but 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.280 like something that kind of blew me away about the 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:37.919 first issue. And they play with this a lot as 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.560 they go in. But one of the comics that we 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:45.199 were just absolutely loving was Hellians, which sent had a 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.200 really big, like funny mister sinister kind of storyline in it, 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.960 and in a more X Men, we get to get 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.440 that funny, sassy mister sinister. So they're kind of building 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.040 in all these different bits of character that we've gotten 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:02.520 from these different Kurkoha books to this the ultimate current 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.919 X membook. And for such a big, sprawling line, it 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.000 can be hard to know what to read. But I 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.920 feel like a MOrTL X Men is, especially from number one, 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.120 is like is quite a good jumping on point because 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.000 you get introduced to everyone and you kind of start 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:20.040 to see the pieces come together. So it's just such 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:21.560 a joy to read. It's so much fun. 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:26.399 I'm excited to keep going up. Next the triumphant Return 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:27.480 of Ask. The Master. 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.640 Dragons are coming to HBO Max. The new HBO original series, 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:36.800 House the Dragon is a prequel set two hundred years 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.760 before the events of Game of Thrones, tells the story 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.439 of House Targarian, locked in an epic battle for the 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.119 Iron Throne and power over the Seven Kingdoms. The epic 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:51.239 series promises more drama and betrayal than ever. That's a 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.520 tall order, but they're gonna do it. Listen to the 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.760 official Game of Thrones podcast House of the Dragon on 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.720 HBO Max, the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.720 pot podcasts hosted by myself in wb z's Greta Johnson. 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:08.120 And to celebrate we're back, We've emerged from the Citadel 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:14.240 to answer your questions. Producer Chris bring us the scroll 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:15.840 of questions. 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.680 All right, Dear Master. From my understanding, the dragons in 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.240 the book were much larger than the ones in the 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:26.080 HBO Game of Thrones series. I've heard conjecture rounding of 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.040 the difference to production concerns and the fact that Danaris's 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.960 dragons were still juvenile and thus not full grown. Will 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:37.680 the dragons in this new series be larger? Sincerely, Sherry Jerry, 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:39.879 Either're going to be larger. 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.840 Genaris's dragons wild, you know, pretty huge. They were like 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.879 you know, preteens. I guess in Dragon Lord, dragons just 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.879 keep on growing and growing. There are seventeen dragons confirmed 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:56.840 in the show, and at least one of them, Vagar, 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:04.560 is immense, slee large and very very old. Vagar was 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.920 formerly the mount of Queen Visnya, was one of King 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:11.760 Agon the conquerors, two queens who were both. 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:12.800 Also his sisters. 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:16.280 You know how they roll in a different way, those Targariots. 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:22.760 There's also Karaxies, the mount of Damon Targarian, so club 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.280 called the Bloodworm because it's very very red and lean. 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:31.240 This was formerly the dragon of Amon Targarian, third son 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.359 of old King Jaharis, who was gonna be the heir 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:37.600 to the throne. And then various things happened because old 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:42.880 King Jaharris sadly went like, oh for thirteen on children. 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.960 On children, a said nick to the iron Throat. Very 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:49.200 tough stuff for him. 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:52.199 By the time of the show, Damon Targarian, who is 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:57.040 the brother of King Visari's, has claimed Kraxies Melis or Melli's, 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:02.440 once belonged to Illicit Targarian. One of Jaharis's daughters, Mellis, 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:07.879