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Speaker 1: She's hulking out, but only when she wants to hulk out.
Speaker 1: She is Rosy Night. Hello.
Speaker 3: Yes, the power control, self control, How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing well, Rosie. How are you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good. I'm glad. I'm glad that we've seen
Speaker 3: she Hulk. I feel like we've been talking about it
Speaker 3: for so long and it was just so great, so
Speaker 3: I'm just stoked to talk about it.
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Speaker 3: that I really care about and respect, and from my
Speaker 3: friends like you, and there's loads of good stuff. So
Speaker 3: I feel very lucky, and I'm very excited to hopefully
Speaker 3: try and do more stuff with all of our soon.
Speaker 3: So I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2: About what a talented human being, action packed episodes.
Speaker 1: Let's jump in.
Speaker 2: War Warner Brothers Discovery News folks. First of all, the
Speaker 2: CW has been sold next to our Media Group, the
Speaker 2: largest television station owner in the US, is set to
Speaker 2: acquire a seventy five percent stake in that television network.
Speaker 1: Of impossibly beautiful.
Speaker 2: Actors taking part in various stories many of them DC adaptations.
Speaker 2: The CW has been co owned by Warner Brothers Discovery
Speaker 2: in paramount since two thousand and six, when the WBN
Speaker 2: upn MERSI into one channel. Each original partner will retain
Speaker 2: a twelve point five ownership stake and will continue to
Speaker 2: produce contact for the network. The CW famously not profitable
Speaker 2: despite the many, many fans that it has.
Speaker 1: Of your thoughts on this, Rosie, I.
Speaker 3: Find this to be a very interesting choice. We've talked
Speaker 3: quite extensively about this deal, and one of the big
Speaker 3: things that we've taken away, especially from the investi cale
Speaker 3: and just general reporting. Zaslav the new head of and
Speaker 3: kind of predominant owner of WB with WB Discovery. He
Speaker 3: loves linear TV aka broadcast TV, channel TV channel TV
Speaker 3: that you don't stream or select, So this to me
Speaker 3: just seems absolutely mind blowing. I love the CW. I
Speaker 3: feel like even the stuff that I don't necessarily love,
Speaker 3: Like I'm not the world's biggest Arrowverse fan, but I
Speaker 3: will proudly say, and you can quote me on this,
Speaker 3: like there is no DCEU in the way it is today.
Speaker 3: Without that, nobody knows who the flash is. If you
Speaker 3: don't have that show. Nobody knows what the multiverse is
Speaker 3: if you don't have legions of families and moms and
Speaker 3: dads and grandparents watching these crossovers where they introduce these
Speaker 3: ideas like crisis on Infinite Earth. I think this is,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, a missed opportunity if it was up
Speaker 3: to me. You know, we talk about this a lot,
Speaker 3: like let us do it, But if it was up
Speaker 3: to me, I would have taken ownership of the CW.
Speaker 3: The reason the CW has never been profitable as a channel,
Speaker 3: though the shows on it were incredibly profitable with a
Speaker 3: second window deal they had with Netflix. For example, CW
Speaker 3: doesn't exist in other countries. Riverdale or the Aravus shows,
Speaker 3: those are Netflix shows in other countries and they made
Speaker 3: a lot of money doing that. The CW has an
Speaker 3: app called CW Seed, and every single show on both
Speaker 3: on the channel goes to either CW Seed or the
Speaker 3: CW main app twenty four hours afterwards. If you take
Speaker 3: that away, people will just watch it on the channel
Speaker 3: right Like to me, in my opinion, I would have
Speaker 3: made a DCTV show or basically just rerunning Batman, the
Speaker 3: animated series. Also, you know, Wonder Woman potentially trying to
Speaker 3: get the Batman sixty six for that space, the old
Speaker 3: Shazam show. There's so much syndicate stuff that they could
Speaker 3: syndicate before you even get to the arrow Verse and
Speaker 3: all that other stuff. I think this will in the
Speaker 3: future be seen as a mistake. But I also I
Speaker 3: watch a lot of the Next Star channels now they
Speaker 3: do a lot of syndicated sitcom channels and movie channels,
Speaker 3: so like I like broadcast TV, I'm sure it'll be interesting,
Speaker 3: but it's a missed opportunity. There is no comic book
Speaker 3: TV network right now in an age where that is
Speaker 3: so profitable.
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time on the Island of
Speaker 2: Leon you with Oliver, although I did check out in
Speaker 2: later seasons. But you have to say, I mean, you're
Speaker 2: absolutely right about it. Yeah, one no DCEU without Errow.
Speaker 2: Also mean the only successful adaptation of Crisis on Infed
Speaker 2: Earth's for the screen happened in the Flash in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: and it might be the only one we see for
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 3: Literally and not just that. Like it's hard to explain
Speaker 3: if you haven't watched these shows, because it feels very overwhelming, right,
Speaker 3: But like Legends of Tomorrow is one of the queerest,
Speaker 3: most inclusive, experimental, weird TV shows on TV, full stop.
Speaker 3: It Without that, we don't get a lot of other
Speaker 3: things like Doom Patrol, Like there's these there's these different
Speaker 3: spaces that they've been able to navigate and explore through
Speaker 3: the lens of Oh it's a superhero show, and Legends
Speaker 3: of Tomorrow is that also. I just have to say,
Speaker 3: in ten years, people will look back at Riverdale, which
Speaker 3: is an archie comics show but was made by Warner
Speaker 3: Brothers and did run on the seat.
Speaker 2: Way truly one of the most unhinged telling they will say,
Speaker 2: like I ever have it. We just let's just like
Speaker 2: for a moment, let's just like drill down on how insane.
Speaker 2: I don't watch it, but I have people that watch it,
Speaker 2: who have who keep me abreast of just.
Speaker 1: How off the real nuts that show has become.
Speaker 3: It's so experimental, it's so weird, it's incredibly queer, it's
Speaker 3: totally outrageous. I mean, just the first the logline for
Speaker 3: the first season was obviously like Archie meets twin Peaks, right,
Speaker 3: so you already start there. First first season is like
Speaker 3: a murder mystery quite standard. By the second season, you're
Speaker 3: on your like third serial killer. By the third season,
Speaker 3: it's a Dungeons and Dragons game that's taken over the town,
Speaker 3: made everyone addicted to like a kool aid drug. And
Speaker 3: also they have a drug called Jingle Jangle that is
Speaker 3: like a legit problem in Riverdale. There's also a part
Speaker 3: where Hiram laud Shoes, Veronica's dad is trying to sell
Speaker 3: the town to turn it into like a supermax prison.
Speaker 3: Then that stuff is all very minor when you get
Speaker 3: to the stuff nowadays where you're talking about alternate universes
Speaker 3: that have to be saved and ended by certain people
Speaker 3: having sex together, bombs, Archie being a criminal. Oh also okay, so,
Speaker 3: and that's before we even get to the fact that
Speaker 3: that's all ended spoiler alert by like Jughead having to
Speaker 3: write the comics, the Archie comics. That's how like he
Speaker 3: stops the time. It's unbelievable stuff. And it also is
Speaker 3: like it's hard to put into words how brilliantly weird
Speaker 3: the show is, and how Roberto Aguaisakassa, who's just totally
Speaker 3: brilliant comics creator and was CEO of Archie and is now,
Speaker 3: you know, was running show running Riverdale, which was his project.
Speaker 3: He plays it so sincere. Like there's a really famous
Speaker 3: moment where Archie goes to prison, like like a youth jail,
Speaker 3: but it kind of looks more like an old fashioned
Speaker 3: jail because time is very mixed up there, and he's
Speaker 3: talking to the kids in the prison yard and he's like,
Speaker 3: you didn't go to high school, you know, because you
Speaker 3: were like a drug mule or whatever bad stuff having
Speaker 3: to and he's like, that means that you never experienced,
Speaker 3: you know, the unbelievable highs and devastating lows of high
Speaker 3: school football. Like it's so well played. There's also an
Speaker 3: episode where Archie fights with a bear, so it's just
Speaker 3: it's unbelievable, and I feel like that is gonna be missing.
Speaker 3: That show has like twenty four episodes a season. It's
Speaker 3: a full season show. Like those kind of things get
Speaker 3: lost in the streaming world and that I'm sad about it.
Speaker 3: I think it will be fine, but I think this
Speaker 3: was a missed opportunity. And also I think it shows
Speaker 3: once again that what's going on at Warner Brothers now
Speaker 3: there is at least some kind of misunderstanding of how
Speaker 3: the DC brand has stayed relevant because a big part
Speaker 3: of it is is tell these shows.
Speaker 1: The latest in Nezra Miller.
Speaker 2: Notably, last week, The Hollywood Reporter published a story talking
Speaker 2: about the three strategies that Warner Brothers had on deck
Speaker 2: to deal with the ongoing and continuing the Ezra Miller incidents,
Speaker 2: and one of them was, Ezra goes into counseling, and
Speaker 2: this provides a pathway for WB to WB Discovery to
Speaker 2: save the flash movie. And just a few days ago,
Speaker 2: Ezra release a statement saying essentially that they've gone into counseling.
Speaker 2: It reads, in part quote, having recently gone through a
Speaker 2: time of intense crisis, I now understand that I'm suffering
Speaker 2: complex mental health issues, and I've begun ongoing treatment. I
Speaker 2: want to apologize to everyone that I have alarmed and
Speaker 2: upset with my past behavior. I am committed doing the
Speaker 2: necessary work to getting back to a healthy, safe, and
Speaker 2: productive stage in my life. So it looks like we're
Speaker 2: going with that strategy now I've been. It's I was
Speaker 2: thinking about, man, you know, like I know, two hundred
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars is a lot of money, Like an
Speaker 2: amount of money that it's you can't even you actually
Speaker 2: fat that you can't comprom and how much money that is.
Speaker 2: But it still feels like, man, why try and save this?
Speaker 2: And you know, I was the more I was reading
Speaker 2: about The Flash and its position in the DCEU, it's
Speaker 2: it's the Connector movie. It's like an Avengers movie. It's
Speaker 2: the movie that was going to bring in all the
Speaker 2: various Batman and Batman characters. It was going to be
Speaker 2: the movie that the rest of the ongoing DCEU film
Speaker 2: offerings were going to be in part based upon. And
Speaker 2: it would have been like having to recast like Captain
Speaker 2: America Civil War without Chris Evans and figure out like
Speaker 2: how do you do it without Chris Evans? So this
Speaker 2: I think, let's I'm not excusing it, but I but
Speaker 2: this is why I think they are going so to
Speaker 2: the mat to try and save this movie that by
Speaker 2: any kind of like reasonable standard, because you know, the
Speaker 2: allegation against Ezra are incredibly serious, like incredibly serious, and
Speaker 2: not at all resolved, So it would seem to be
Speaker 2: like the you know, the responsible thing would be just like, okay,
Speaker 2: let's scrap this movie. The reason, in my opinion that
Speaker 2: they can't is because it is. You know, we often
Speaker 2: refer to movies as tent poles. It's like the tent
Speaker 2: pole holding up the entire tent of DC movies, and
Speaker 2: if you pull that one out, now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you have to do a bunch of surgery on those movies.
Speaker 2: And now you're talking about billions of dollars. That's my theory. No,
Speaker 2: But all of which is to say, man, this is
Speaker 2: still troubling, still extremely troubling.
Speaker 1: What do you think of my theory?
Speaker 3: I think your theory is right from everything that I
Speaker 3: understand about this movie, that I've heard about it, that's
Speaker 3: been rumored about it, that has been replied about it.
Speaker 3: This was supposed to be that movie. I think the
Speaker 3: reason I think that is the reason that they are
Speaker 3: working so hard to save it. I also don't understand
Speaker 3: that from the place where we are now, which from
Speaker 3: what I understand what zaz Levs said is like they
Speaker 3: want to start something new, like a ten year plan
Speaker 3: with the MCU. This is the opposite of that that
Speaker 3: MCU did not begin with a giant team up movie
Speaker 3: that included fifty different versions. Now, what I wonder is
Speaker 3: building off your theory I wonder if this was going
Speaker 3: to connect everything together and essentially end it. I wonder
Speaker 3: if that's what their prison is or pree crisis or something,
Speaker 3: and then you everything after this is separate, you know,
Speaker 3: I wonder if that's also it. This strange thing is
Speaker 3: as well from reports that girl was supposed to be
Speaker 3: in this movie as part of a new Justice League.
Speaker 3: What happens now that movie's not happening. There's so many
Speaker 3: questionable things, but you're definitely right. I have heard many
Speaker 3: things about the different eras of DC that will be
Speaker 3: bought into this movie and the way they're going to
Speaker 3: use different characters, so that would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: But also, like you said, my biggest takeaway from this
Speaker 3: is just like it is unresolved. We do not this
Speaker 3: this statement. My feelings on this statement are I hope
Speaker 3: that it is true because I want Ezra to get help,
Speaker 3: But I also want to know whereas Takota Ironize, the
Speaker 3: child that they were taking around with them while all
Speaker 3: this was going on. You know, where are the family
Speaker 3: that was living at Ezra's house in Vermont and who
Speaker 3: hasn't been heard on social media or kind of been
Speaker 3: heard from since July I very much hope that Ezra's
Speaker 3: getting help, but I also hope the people that their
Speaker 3: behavior and their crisis is impacted are getting help. And this,
Speaker 3: to me, it reads a little bit more like a
Speaker 3: that studio plan the Hollywood Reporter laid out, because the
Speaker 3: idea was that the idea is Ezra makes a statement,
Speaker 3: Ezra gets counseling, and then you can use Ezra in
Speaker 3: limited press for the movie. I don't I just don't
Speaker 3: wish this possible. That's just it's still not possible. And
Speaker 3: is this movie really going to come out in June
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three? This movie is almost like to me,
Speaker 3: this is like the New New Mutants. I will not
Speaker 3: believe this movie comes out until the day we see
Speaker 3: it come out, till the days as I will be questioned.
Speaker 2: And New Mutants, by the way, just a normal bad movie.
Speaker 2: That's all just like a normal studio studio stuff like
Speaker 2: that's all just like a normal bad movie. Let's talk
Speaker 2: comics for a second, Rosie. I have been letting my
Speaker 2: stack grow and grow and grow and grow and grow
Speaker 2: and grow and grow and go grow except for problem,
Speaker 2: except of course, for God Silver Spatra. I carve got
Speaker 2: time of course to peruse that piece of genius. But
Speaker 2: I have been diving back into my stack and most
Speaker 2: notably my ex family, and I just wanted to shout
Speaker 2: out because the current act Day of Judgment crossover series crossover.
Speaker 1: Event is happening now.
Speaker 2: I haven't got to that yet, but I wanted to
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, paved get on the road
Speaker 2: that paves the way towards that crossover. So I've been
Speaker 2: reading Immortal x Men, which is kind of like the
Speaker 2: fallout from a bunch of Krakoa stuff.
Speaker 1: When it seemed like.
Speaker 2: The very tightly held secret mutant intel that mutants are
Speaker 2: now immortal, able to be reborn again and again and
Speaker 2: again on the island of Kakoa, which is a state secret.
Speaker 2: No one knows that on Earth. That almost got out
Speaker 2: because of the endeavors of one intrepid reporter who then
Speaker 2: had his mind wiped. But that information is still out there.
Speaker 2: And this leads into a Mortal x Men, which has
Speaker 2: been running now four or five issues. So I started
Speaker 2: reading Imortal x Men, and I just want to say,
Speaker 2: Mortal x Men is fucking great.
Speaker 1: It's so good, it's it's great.
Speaker 3: I actually got to like, I got sometimes at Polgon
Speaker 3: they run I mean, they run this month of Polygon,
Speaker 3: but sometimes I get to write them where you write
Speaker 3: about like a first issue, and I got to write
Speaker 3: about issue one of the Mortal x Men and it
Speaker 3: was just so good. It's like if you're an ex fan.
Speaker 3: One of the things in the X Men community people
Speaker 3: had wanted for a long time was this a book
Speaker 3: about the Quiet Council, which is the council that runs Prokoha,
Speaker 3: the secret mutant community. And this book begins with that concept,
Speaker 3: but the question of who is on the council, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what is the council's role, the many machinations of the
Speaker 3: different people who want to be on the council. It's
Speaker 3: very cool stuff, and there's I mean, this whole book
Speaker 3: just makes me so happy because I love destiny and
Speaker 3: I love destiny a mystique, and this is a big
Speaker 3: even from the stuff that led into this. This is
Speaker 3: a big destiny and mystique kind of arc. And then yeah,
Speaker 3: this leads into the current big crossover AX, which is
Speaker 3: going to be a really big deal because it's Avengers,
Speaker 3: x Men, Eternals, So you can kind of grass from
Speaker 3: that the groups that may be important coming into the
Speaker 3: MCU and into the kind of new phase of Marvel.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm loving about Immortal and the kind of
Speaker 2: fallout from Krokoa that's led into Immortal and X Men
Speaker 2: Red and stuff. Is that, you know, for previous to
Speaker 2: the Krocoa events, the X Men, for like twenty years,
Speaker 2: there's been some great runs, but like since the two
Speaker 2: thousands as and this is nothing new, the X Men
Speaker 2: have kind of been on their ass. They were almost white,
Speaker 2: all the mutants were almost wiped out, and then they
Speaker 2: had to run this like shadow war against various extremist groups,
Speaker 2: and then they had to bring mutants back and that
Speaker 2: was a whole thing. And the great thing about where
Speaker 2: the X Men and the mutant community is now is,
Speaker 2: first of all, they have assumed they're rightful place in
Speaker 2: the Marvel Commics universe, which is just a power center,
Speaker 2: a powerful nation of super beings.
Speaker 1: And two.
Speaker 2: So it's really cool is and this is something we've
Speaker 2: never quite seen before. It's that classic problem of now
Speaker 2: the enemy is us now. It's they're so powerful. You
Speaker 2: have all these different groups vying for control, moving making
Speaker 2: secret moves. You have various secrets that are hidden from
Speaker 2: even the top, you know, leadership of the Mutant community,
Speaker 2: and it's just really great stuff.
Speaker 1: It's really really great stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so much fun. And I think something that
Speaker 3: they do that I know you would have loved, but
Speaker 3: like something that kind of blew me away about the
Speaker 3: first issue. And they play with this a lot as
Speaker 3: they go in. But one of the comics that we
Speaker 3: were just absolutely loving was Hellians, which sent had a
Speaker 3: really big, like funny mister sinister kind of storyline in it,
Speaker 3: and in a more X Men, we get to get
Speaker 3: that funny, sassy mister sinister. So they're kind of building
Speaker 3: in all these different bits of character that we've gotten
Speaker 3: from these different Kurkoha books to this the ultimate current
Speaker 3: X membook. And for such a big, sprawling line, it
Speaker 3: can be hard to know what to read. But I
Speaker 3: feel like a MOrTL X Men is, especially from number one,
Speaker 3: is like is quite a good jumping on point because
Speaker 3: you get introduced to everyone and you kind of start
Speaker 3: to see the pieces come together. So it's just such
Speaker 3: a joy to read. It's so much fun.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to keep going up. Next the triumphant Return
Speaker 1: of Ask. The Master.
Speaker 2: Dragons are coming to HBO Max. The new HBO original series,
Speaker 2: House the Dragon is a prequel set two hundred years
Speaker 2: before the events of Game of Thrones, tells the story
Speaker 2: of House Targarian, locked in an epic battle for the
Speaker 2: Iron Throne and power over the Seven Kingdoms. The epic
Speaker 2: series promises more drama and betrayal than ever. That's a
Speaker 2: tall order, but they're gonna do it. Listen to the
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Speaker 2: pot podcasts hosted by myself in wb z's Greta Johnson.
Speaker 2: And to celebrate we're back, We've emerged from the Citadel
Speaker 2: to answer your questions. Producer Chris bring us the scroll
Speaker 2: of questions.
Speaker 4: All right, Dear Master. From my understanding, the dragons in
Speaker 4: the book were much larger than the ones in the
Speaker 4: HBO Game of Thrones series. I've heard conjecture rounding of
Speaker 4: the difference to production concerns and the fact that Danaris's
Speaker 4: dragons were still juvenile and thus not full grown. Will
Speaker 4: the dragons in this new series be larger? Sincerely, Sherry Jerry,
Speaker 4: Either're going to be larger.
Speaker 2: Genaris's dragons wild, you know, pretty huge. They were like
Speaker 2: you know, preteens. I guess in Dragon Lord, dragons just
Speaker 2: keep on growing and growing. There are seventeen dragons confirmed
Speaker 2: in the show, and at least one of them, Vagar,
Speaker 2: is immense, slee large and very very old. Vagar was
Speaker 2: formerly the mount of Queen Visnya, was one of King
Speaker 2: Agon the conquerors, two queens who were both.
Speaker 1: Also his sisters.
Speaker 2: You know how they roll in a different way, those Targariots.
Speaker 2: There's also Karaxies, the mount of Damon Targarian, so club
Speaker 2: called the Bloodworm because it's very very red and lean.
Speaker 2: This was formerly the dragon of Amon Targarian, third son
Speaker 2: of old King Jaharis, who was gonna be the heir
Speaker 2: to the throne. And then various things happened because old
Speaker 2: King Jaharris sadly went like, oh for thirteen on children.
Speaker 1: On children, a said nick to the iron Throat. Very
Speaker 1: tough stuff for him.
Speaker 2: By the time of the show, Damon Targarian, who is
Speaker 2: the brother of King Visari's, has claimed Kraxies Melis or Melli's,
Speaker 2: once belonged to Illicit Targarian. One of Jaharis's daughters, Mellis,
Speaker 2: has uh is currently in the in the employ of
Speaker 2: Princess Raynee Targer aka the Queen who Never Was. I
Speaker 2: would assume they're gonna be lots of course, there are
Speaker 2: gonna be lots more, including some wild dragons who you
Speaker 2: know live along the coastal regions, maybe along dragon Stone there.
Speaker 1: Uh, there's gonna be a lot of dragons. Gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: Next question, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Master j which Valerian steel swords might be featured
Speaker 4: on the show. Also, I saw a dagger in the trailer.
Speaker 4: Are we to believe that is the Cat's pot dagger?
Speaker 4: Thank you from Daniel.
Speaker 2: That is the cat'spot dagger. That is the the weapon
Speaker 2: most famously used in the attempt on brand Stark's life
Speaker 2: in season one of Game of Thrones. We know that
Speaker 2: two Valerian steel swords from House Targarians weapon room are
Speaker 2: in use at this time. Blackfire, the sword of targeting
Speaker 2: king since the time of Agon you can actually see
Speaker 2: in the trailer, is in the possession of King Vissaris.
Speaker 2: Dark Sister Wants, the personal weapon of Agon's sister Vissenya,
Speaker 2: one of the legendary Targarian trouble making ladies, is currently
Speaker 2: in the possession of Damon Targari and again the brother
Speaker 2: of King Vassaras, who is also himself a troublemaker.
Speaker 1: Fun facts about those two sorts.
Speaker 2: Blackfire gave its name to the series of civil wars
Speaker 2: known as the Blackfire Rebellion. Because King Agon the Fourth,
Speaker 2: who was the worst of the Targarian Kings, at least
Speaker 2: the biggest dummy of the Targarian Kings and certainly a
Speaker 2: guy who liked to party more than do responsible shit
Speaker 2: running the realm, he gave the sword to his bastard
Speaker 2: son Damon. He also had a lot of bastard kids
Speaker 2: that he then legitimized, causing this huge, you know, friction
Speaker 2: within the realm of multiple groups now vying for power.
Speaker 2: And because he had given his bastard son the sword
Speaker 2: of kings, a lot of people were like, oh, I
Speaker 2: guess that guy should be. King Damon ended up dying
Speaker 2: in one ninety six at the epic Battle of Red
Speaker 2: grass Field, which basically ended the first Blackfire Rebellion. His
Speaker 2: brother ag Or Bitter Steel Rivers, another bastard, took the sword,
Speaker 2: fled to Esos, and founded the Golden Company, a famed
Speaker 2: mercenary company which you will recall from later seasons of
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones the sword was last known to be
Speaker 2: in his possession, so maybe still in Esos somewhere. Dark
Speaker 2: Sister was last in the possession of Brindan Rivers. Another
Speaker 2: Targarian bastard, another bastard of egg On the fourth, this
Speaker 2: one who stayed loyal to the crown, now Brendon, former
Speaker 2: hand to the King, took the black and went with
Speaker 2: our good friend Amon Targarian aka Master Amen to the wall,
Speaker 2: and you might know Brindan River is better as the
Speaker 2: Three Eyed Crow aka Blood Raven aka the guy that
Speaker 2: brand Stark met under the tree and talked to question.
Speaker 1: Did Brendan take the sword with him to the wall?
Speaker 1: We don't know.
Speaker 2: No one knows where it is, but there's a chance
Speaker 2: other Valerian still weapons that maybe we'll see Lady Forlorn,
Speaker 2: which is the sword of House Corbret from the Fingers
Speaker 2: along the coast of the Veil. They call him the
Speaker 2: Fingers because little peninsulas peninsulas that look like fingers.
Speaker 1: Fun fact.
Speaker 2: During the Battle of the Red Grass fieldwat Gawayne, Corbret
Speaker 2: fought a famous duel against Damon Blackfire, so it was
Speaker 2: Valerian's Sword against Valerian Sword House Horlaw of the Iron
Speaker 2: Islands has nightfall. I think it's an off chance that
Speaker 2: we see that one. And then, of course how Stark
Speaker 2: has Ice, the great sword of Lord Stark's from time immemorial,
Speaker 2: and that is a c of centuries away from being
Speaker 2: melted down in the events of Game of Thrones.
Speaker 4: Next up, Hi, Jason, very excited to hear you talk
Speaker 4: about west Ros and maybe get to hear some updates
Speaker 4: and some hot takes from his dar from Marine. My question,
Speaker 4: do you think at any point we actually get to
Speaker 4: see Eggon's conquest and a flashback or do you think
Speaker 4: they want to do it as its own show or
Speaker 4: season from Brandon.
Speaker 1: Thank you Brandon, Brandon, Brandon the Builder. My guess is no.
Speaker 2: I over the course of the series, does it happen
Speaker 2: to we get a flashback?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 2: I guess there's a chance. But to this point in
Speaker 2: the books, Egon has been kind of a blank slate,
Speaker 2: we don't really know what drives him. We know more
Speaker 2: at the more about the personalities of his sisters Visinya
Speaker 2: and Rainey's than we do about egg On the Conqueror,
Speaker 2: And I think that feels very purposeful, and it feels
Speaker 2: like that mystery is not going to be revealed until
Speaker 2: you know later things in the books that's just a guess.
Speaker 4: Okay, And next seems like just yesterday I was reading
Speaker 4: asked the Master calms every Wednesday at or episode of
Speaker 4: Game of Thrones. My question after your tour of West
Speaker 4: Rosa's pod, I started thinking about s Os and other
Speaker 4: locations around the world. What new or old locations across
Speaker 4: the Narrow Sea are you most excited to see in
Speaker 4: the new show Banks from Max.
Speaker 2: That across the Narrow Sea? You know, I think my
Speaker 2: sense is we're not going to see too much across
Speaker 2: the Narrow Sea. But I will tell you what old
Speaker 2: location I'm excited could be on the table for us
Speaker 2: in the House of the Dragon, and that is the
Speaker 2: Castle of storms End. Folks who listen to Bnjabud will
Speaker 2: know that I'm a big fan of castles, and I
Speaker 2: am a big hater of weak castles. I hate a
Speaker 2: weak castle. There's nothing worse than a fucking weak castle.
Speaker 2: Castles made of wood, Like, why are we doing this
Speaker 2: in this day and age? Anyway, here's a strong castle
Speaker 2: storms End, the seat of the House Barathion, and before
Speaker 2: them in the pre conquest year is the Durand and
Speaker 2: storm Kings. It's maybe the strongest castle in West Ros.
Speaker 2: People talk about the Eerie in the Veil as being
Speaker 2: impregnable all the bitch Bron famously said, but that's primarily because.
Speaker 1: It's just high, high, high, high.
Speaker 2: Up in the mountains of the Moon, and nobody wants
Speaker 2: to fucking go up there. Plus, the Iry is really
Speaker 2: really small, and it's only inhabited during the summer because
Speaker 2: you know, it's up there in the mountains. In wintertime
Speaker 2: it just gets too cold. Storms End is huge. It's
Speaker 2: right there in the mix on the continent itself, like
Speaker 2: on the coast, where you know Dornish raiders are always
Speaker 2: coming in, other invaders, earths coming.
Speaker 1: From the sea.
Speaker 2: Over the years, lots of folks have made war in
Speaker 2: the storm Lands, but usually people just avoid laying siege
Speaker 2: to storms End because it is such a major fucking
Speaker 2: pain in the ass. It has this it's dominated by
Speaker 2: this huge drum tower that rises from the center of
Speaker 2: the castle, which it must be extremely striking. We've never
Speaker 2: seen it in Game of Thrones, and I would love
Speaker 2: to see that during Robert's rebellion up Stanis Barrathian, famed
Speaker 2: fun guy status. Barrathian held the castle for a year
Speaker 2: against the power of the Reach and others with only
Speaker 2: like a skeleton crew of soldiers and no food, like
Speaker 2: they were eating fucking rats in there, until Davo Seaworth
Speaker 2: smuggled in a bunch of supplies and shouts to him.
Speaker 2: Legend says that much like the Wall in the North,
Speaker 2: that the curtain wall of storms End was built woven
Speaker 2: with spells and stuff that keep it protected. We again,
Speaker 2: we never got to see it in Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping we get to see it here in House
Speaker 2: of the Dragon. Fun fact. In the books, some news
Speaker 2: from storms End in the books. In Dance of the Dragons,
Speaker 2: last we heard of storms End a young a young
Speaker 2: man from Essos named Agon Targarran who is either an
Speaker 2: actual Targarian right or a pretender fake in it. Fagon
Speaker 2: as the fans call him, was last known to be
Speaker 2: moving on Storm's End after taking the Castle of Griffin's Roost,
Speaker 2: also on the storm winds. So did they take it?
Speaker 2: Were they successful? Find out when Winds of Winter drops?
Speaker 2: Hopefully soon, folks, this has been really fun. Stay tuned
Speaker 2: for more Ask the Master, and don't miss the new
Speaker 2: HBO original series House of the Dragon, premiering this Sunday.
Speaker 2: This Sunday, August twenty first on HBO Max. Want to
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Speaker 1: In the lead up to this year's mid terms.
Speaker 2: Folks were stepping out of the airlock and into the
Speaker 2: courthouse to discuss the latest MCU show.
Speaker 1: She Hulk Turn Along Rosie.
Speaker 5: The show is fun, It's so good, it's so fantastic
Speaker 5: and just like silly and do you know what they're
Speaker 5: on a streak of It feels really different to anything
Speaker 5: we've had in the MCU. This actually again does this
Speaker 5: is like a relatable, funny calm show that really.
Speaker 3: Leans into those legal roots. Those comparisons to ali mcbeil
Speaker 3: were not wrong. And if you don't know who Aliu
Speaker 3: mcbeil is, then google it because well, but like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's fun. It's so fun.
Speaker 2: A director by kat Koiro, written by Jessica Goo.
Speaker 1: Here is our recap.
Speaker 2: We open in Los Angeles. We opened on Jennifer Walters
Speaker 2: immediately breaking the fourth wall. She's staring at us. She's
Speaker 2: the cousin of famed gamma radiation expert and vega Bruce Banner,
Speaker 2: and she is practicing her closing argument for an upcoming case.
Speaker 2: The argument is about stop me if you heard this before, Rosie.
Speaker 2: It's about the balance between power and responsibility. Jen says, quote,
Speaker 2: those were the most power of the most to answer
Speaker 2: for her colleague Nikki Ramos, a part legal is her
Speaker 2: a major supporter at work. Her fellow lawyer Dennis.
Speaker 1: Is like, I'm a man, so you should let me
Speaker 1: close out the case. Shut up, Dennis.
Speaker 3: I just I love like his name's Dennis Pikowski, and
Speaker 3: I feel like Fanny. Women who watched who are watching this,
Speaker 3: who've had to listen to men talk about how much
Speaker 3: they love Charles Bakowski. There's just it's so good. It's
Speaker 3: just it works, and it's big shop Dennis energy.
Speaker 1: This episode big big time. Shut up Dennis Energy.
Speaker 2: Jen and Nicky head to the courtroom, and NICKI quite
Speaker 2: you know in a in a in a quick private moment, suggests, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: if we don't get our judgment, maybe you should just
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Hulk out.
Speaker 2: And that's right, folks. This is how we learn that
Speaker 2: Jennifer Walters is a hulk. And the fourth wall shatters
Speaker 2: and Jen tells us how she became a hulk. And
Speaker 2: here is where we should pause for a moment, Rosie
Speaker 2: and play that play that extra vision was right sound again,
Speaker 2: because we were right once again. We were right once again.
Speaker 2: Some months previous, Jen was taking a wonderful road ship
Speaker 2: with her cousin Bruce uh. And here is where we
Speaker 2: were right. Bruce's endgame arm injury, which he suffered, of course,
Speaker 2: while snapping his fingers with the nano infinity glove on
Speaker 2: his hand has almost fully healed, and he's created a
Speaker 2: device which now wears on his wrist and inhibitor which
Speaker 2: keeps him from transforming into the hull can reckon shit.
Speaker 2: Conversation then turns to whether Steve Rogers ever got it in?
Speaker 1: Did he ever get it in? Folks? What do we think?
Speaker 2: Wasn't he too busy to fuck? Wasn't there too much
Speaker 2: going on? He was going from crisis to crisis to crisis, Rosie,
Speaker 2: before we reveal what the episode actually reveals, before this
Speaker 2: were what was your opinion on whether Steve Rogers cherry
Speaker 2: was intact or popped?
Speaker 3: So this is your first hint to me of something
Speaker 3: that we will that you will see going through this season.
Speaker 3: This is a show that knows what the fans are
Speaker 3: in conversation about, because this is a question I personally
Speaker 3: am of the belief. Look, I'm a Stucky shipper. I
Speaker 3: believe step and Bucky were in love. I believe they've
Speaker 3: probably found a time to share some romantic time. I'm
Speaker 3: not one to comment on the nature of virginity, a
Speaker 3: made up thing that somebody just said happens when you
Speaker 3: have sex, But look I was very impressed to see
Speaker 3: Sheehlck turn what we've seen in the MC on its head,
Speaker 3: which is a lot of conversations about this stuff about
Speaker 3: the nature of relationships, about people's sex lives, about their
Speaker 3: potential to have kids, to settle down that has been
Speaker 3: focused on women and very specifically black widow. So it
Speaker 3: was kind of great to see them not only pull
Speaker 3: this fan conversation out there and show that she Holck
Speaker 3: is in a space where if these characters were real,
Speaker 3: people would still be shipping them and still be having
Speaker 3: these conversations, would still be theorizing what do you think
Speaker 3: you think? Busy?
Speaker 2: Well, listen, we went very deep on this back in
Speaker 2: my Bingebow days with Malory Rubin, and we both were
Speaker 2: of the opinion that absolutely Steve Rogers fuck. And here's
Speaker 2: my philosophy, Number one, I get it. Steve was very,
Speaker 2: very busy. Everybody was busy. It was a time of crisis.
Speaker 2: It was World War Two, and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden it was you know, the invasion of New York,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it was the Civil War,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden Shield is hired. A
Speaker 2: lot of shit going on of course, who has the time.
Speaker 2: Let me say this, we are here the human race,
Speaker 2: for better or worse, because we found time to fuck
Speaker 2: in caves outside with lions running around anywhere we could.
Speaker 2: That's why we're here. And I think Steve found the
Speaker 2: time and that's going to be confirmed later on a stinger.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it again when we get there. Back
Speaker 2: to our story, Bruce, of course, it doesn't want to
Speaker 2: necessarily talk about his you know, conversation with Cap. That's
Speaker 2: protected Avengers stuff. You know, what's what? What is said
Speaker 2: in the Avenger's mansion doesn't stays in the Avengers.
Speaker 1: When suddenly.
Speaker 2: A Sakarian spaceship appears on the highway, what causing Jen
Speaker 2: to lose control of the car.
Speaker 1: The car crashes.
Speaker 2: Jen slashes her arm escaping the wreck, and in the
Speaker 2: midst of pulling Bruce free of this wreck, some gamma
Speaker 2: radiated blood gets into her wound and you know what
Speaker 2: happens next.
Speaker 1: Rosie, what do we think this Sakarian spacecraft means? So fast?
Speaker 3: Of all, this is a big deal, This is very cool.
Speaker 3: This is a big change from Gen's comic book origin. Yep, big,
Speaker 3: But what actually pays homage to so in Jen's comic
Speaker 3: book Origin is literally like happens over a couple of pages.
Speaker 3: She's a lawyer, she gets shot by the mob. Bruce
Speaker 3: decides he's gonna do it. Blood transfusions save her life.
Speaker 3: Lo and behold she becomes the Hulk. That wouldn't necessarily
Speaker 3: make sense for mc us Bruce, because why would he
Speaker 3: want her to go through this terrible thing that he's
Speaker 3: gone through. But what is very similar about this origin
Speaker 3: is they just get right to it. They're like, five
Speaker 3: minutes in you found out this is happening. She's she Hawks,
Speaker 3: so they kept that spirit alive. Now, why is there
Speaker 3: a Sakarian ship? It's very smart to use this just
Speaker 3: Sakarian ship because this circular ship looks very similar to
Speaker 3: the one from Thor Ragnarok, which we saw Bruce, Thor
Speaker 3: and Valkyrie escape from, which I believe was the grand
Speaker 3: Master's like sex ship. So so immediately people are going
Speaker 3: to be like, oh, I think I readze that sex
Speaker 3: ship right like they have like there's like like sexy musically.
Speaker 3: So I think this is very clear to me. And
Speaker 3: this is a huge theory. But you can chalk this
Speaker 3: one down in the X Ray Oracle because I think
Speaker 3: we're going to be right about this one. Okay, why
Speaker 3: would a Sakarian ship appear like that in front?
Speaker 1: It's not for Johy Rusie.
Speaker 3: Why so in the comics, those good old Marvel comic
Speaker 3: books that we love so much, while Hulk was on Sakar,
Speaker 3: the planet we saw him on in the fighting arenas
Speaker 3: in Thoragnarok. In the comics, he was there during Planet Hulk,
Speaker 3: and he sired a child that he didn't know about,
Speaker 3: and after he left the planet, the child was born.
Speaker 3: The child's name was Scar skaa R and he was
Speaker 3: incredibly powerful. He grew very fast. He was actually born
Speaker 3: in a cocoon and then and became an adult within
Speaker 3: a couple of years, a teen within a year, and
Speaker 3: he was very angry at his father. I believe if
Speaker 3: you think of the timeline that we have since the blip,
Speaker 3: this is at least five or six years since Hulk
Speaker 3: was on Car, if not as far as seven or eight.
Speaker 3: But the timeline's a bit a bit jiggerly. I think
Speaker 3: that ship is telling Bruce that he has a son
Speaker 3: on Sacar and they need him to go back because
Speaker 3: his son is probably fucking shit because he's crazy, And
Speaker 3: the big question here is going to be are they
Speaker 3: going to do something really funny where Scar is already
Speaker 3: an adult when he gets there, or is this going
Speaker 3: to continue the tradition we've seen with Thor Love and Thunder,
Speaker 3: with Hawkeye as a character. You know, with Tony, most
Speaker 3: of the Avengers have kids at this point, the Corps Avengers.
Speaker 3: This would add Holp to that. So maybe in this
Speaker 3: version Scar will be a teenager, which would be easy
Speaker 3: to put him into a young Avengers or some kind
Speaker 3: of team. So yeah, the Sacarian Ship, I would almost
Speaker 3: guarantee that we will at least get a post seasoned
Speaker 3: stinger hinting that Bruce has a son.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, the events of Thor Ragnara,
Speaker 2: we're pretty much Planet Hulk the uh the a really
Speaker 2: incredible Hulk event that in many ways set the tone
Speaker 2: for like who the Hulk is right now in Marvel
Speaker 2: comics and is just one of the great recent semi
Speaker 2: recent Marvel comic events that event leads directly into World
Speaker 2: War Hulk. Does this make in which it's the World
Speaker 2: War Hulk? Is the Hulk the matter than he has
Speaker 2: ever been, ever, ever, ever before comes back to Earth?
Speaker 2: After all the stuff that went down in the car
Speaker 2: because he was on the car by the way, because
Speaker 2: his supposed friends had exiled him because he.
Speaker 1: Was causing.
Speaker 3: Seeing that in an you've seen that.
Speaker 2: And when he comes back, he is so mad that
Speaker 2: he fights everybody, every hero and wins. Does this make
Speaker 2: a World War Hulk event more or less likely to you?
Speaker 3: I think it makes it very light. So Thor Ragnarok
Speaker 3: was in all but name, a Planet Hawk movie. It
Speaker 3: came out of the events of Hulk being kicked off
Speaker 3: the planet by people that he trusted. It led to
Speaker 3: him landing on to car and becoming a famed fighter,
Speaker 3: and it looks like it will lead to him having
Speaker 3: a son. Now, Scar was introduced in World War Hulk five,
Speaker 3: I believe issue five. So I think this is a
Speaker 3: very reasonable guest, and I just want to shout out,
Speaker 3: like World War I mean Planet Hulk, that is probably
Speaker 3: the definitive Hulk story of all time, aside from like
Speaker 3: you know, his origin. But even then people aren't like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, don't forget about Rick Jones who ran in front,
Speaker 3: like what Planet Hawk is the story. It's one of
Speaker 3: the very successful Marvel animated movies, and it is just
Speaker 3: really radical. Rumor has it The reason that Marvel would
Speaker 3: not have just been able to make a Planet Hulk
Speaker 3: movie under that name is that the deal that they
Speaker 3: have with Universal is they cannot make it. They cannot
Speaker 3: make a named Hulk movie. So I think if Well
Speaker 3: War Hulk happens, you know, just like this is based
Speaker 3: on Greg Pak, Carlo Pajugien, and Aaron the Presty's amazing
Speaker 3: comic book series, I think we would see we could
Speaker 3: see wild War Hulk, especially post Shee Hulk, where it
Speaker 3: looks first of all, second Holk. We've got Shee Hulk,
Speaker 3: she exists. Now we've got we know from the trailers
Speaker 3: that abomination is going to be in this show. Who
Speaker 3: he's already in. He's already in shang Chi, but we
Speaker 3: know from the trailers is going to be part of
Speaker 3: this show. So we're already introducing what we would call
Speaker 3: the Hulk family. So the question is if Scar really
Speaker 3: is there and he's rebuilding Sakar like he is in
Speaker 3: the comics, and he's pissed at his dad or or
Speaker 3: maybe he wants to come and hunt down his dad
Speaker 3: or whatever, we could end up in a situation where
Speaker 3: then we would have four Hulk adjacent characters. And you know,
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about this a lot recently. Shea Hulk
Speaker 3: seems like a place where you could introduce more folks
Speaker 3: or re introduce them, you know. Having Tim Roth come
Speaker 3: back from that first Incredible Hulk movie, which many people forget,
Speaker 3: is like, that's the phase one of the MCU that
Speaker 3: makes it seem to me like they're not afraid to
Speaker 3: go back to that space that wasn't necessarily as loved
Speaker 3: at the time that it came out against Iron Man.
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't be surprised, you know. I'd like to
Speaker 3: see liv Tyler come back, maybe as a red she Hulk.
Speaker 3: You know, that's a really massive part of this kind
Speaker 3: of Hulk family, the Incredible Hulks arc She's the antagonist
Speaker 3: and you have all these different Hulks. So I think
Speaker 3: a version of World War Hulk. I don't know if
Speaker 3: our Bruce Banner would be the one to incite it,
Speaker 3: because he is very much in a great headspace, but
Speaker 3: maybe Scar is the one, and then Bruce has to
Speaker 3: bring in these other.
Speaker 1: Hulks to help.
Speaker 2: I love I love the idea that World War Hook
Speaker 2: would be Scar being super pissed, like, daddy, where the
Speaker 2: fuck have you been?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 2: So Jen hulks out, and when she wakes up, it's
Speaker 2: dark and she's somewhere by the side of the highway.
Speaker 2: She goes to a nearby bar where some really wonderful
Speaker 2: ladies are.
Speaker 1: Like, what happened? How don't let him treat you like this?
Speaker 2: And they give her some fresh coat of makeup and
Speaker 2: a little tease up with the hair, and they give
Speaker 2: her some new shoes, and Jenna's like, you laters are great,
Speaker 2: but I'm fine.
Speaker 1: I just need to call my cousin Bruce.
Speaker 2: She steps outside to make a call, and of course
Speaker 2: some meatheads step up to her and it's like that
Speaker 2: you know bar scene in Terminator Too. She hooks out
Speaker 2: and she just fucking crash tests dummies, these fucking dudes.
Speaker 2: When she wakes up again, she's in a nice, wonderful
Speaker 2: wood paneled bedroom, which we find out is in a
Speaker 2: beachside cabin, wonderful spread. There's Ultron's original Stark Tech helmet
Speaker 2: there as decoration. This we find out is Bruce's secret
Speaker 2: lab somewhere on the coast of Mexico, And of course
Speaker 2: Bruce has done a lot of in Mexico and Latin
Speaker 2: America in general since the days of Marvels the Incredible Hulk,
Speaker 2: and he's really done a lot of great stuff with
Speaker 2: this spot. Jen finds Bruce in Smart Hulk form down
Speaker 2: in his lab, which is like a combination of like
Speaker 2: Stark Lab meets the Danger Room from the X Men.
Speaker 2: Tony built the lab with his own funds, and apparently,
Speaker 2: and here is one of those wonderful nods to various
Speaker 2: conversations fans have been having over the years, has always
Speaker 2: threatened to like seize it back from Bruce.
Speaker 1: Tony a billionaire, if not.
Speaker 2: Trillionaire, and just a famously cheap individual no matter how
Speaker 2: rich he was.
Speaker 3: I love this as well, because, like it leans so
Speaker 3: much into that, you know, the conversation that famously broke
Speaker 3: my brain during Falcon in the Winter Soldier, which was
Speaker 3: the notion that nobody was getting paid and that Falcon
Speaker 3: wasn't only not getting paid by Tony, but he also
Speaker 3: wasn't getting paid by the government for all the black
Speaker 3: opsmissions he was doing. So I kind of love this
Speaker 3: idea that Tony like kept people sweet by just like
Speaker 3: building them something nice or giving them like a suit,
Speaker 3: but he wouldn't give them like a salary. And also
Speaker 3: if he was pissed off, he'd be like, eh, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if you're gone that the lab is it's probably
Speaker 2: the best version of all that stuff because absolutely powered,
Speaker 2: powered by arc reactor tech like free electricity. It's high tech,
Speaker 2: completely powered. It's not like on Tony's various properties.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd always like he has weird compound where
Speaker 1: you have to wonder if you're gonna see Tony.
Speaker 2: Like in his fucking bathrobe, catch him and like him
Speaker 2: pots like yeah, this is like this is Bruce's own spot,
Speaker 2: which is which is awesome.
Speaker 3: I will say, like this is another thing, Like we
Speaker 3: talk a lot about this notion of the fans and
Speaker 3: the conversations they're having, the way this show is very
Speaker 3: much made by fans. I mean, Zig worked on this show,
Speaker 3: our fellow lovely co host in general, and like this
Speaker 3: is in conversation with the fans. Something that I love
Speaker 3: about this is like it it is really funny. But
Speaker 3: those things that you mention this actually tells us so
Speaker 3: much about Bruce and Toni's relationship one of the most
Speaker 3: popular MCU ships. But like it tells us so much
Speaker 3: like this was a space that Tony made for Bruce
Speaker 3: so Bruce could live a good life, whether he needed
Speaker 3: to hide, whether he needed to work out how to
Speaker 3: become Professor Holk. This was actually a rare selfless thing
Speaker 3: that Tony did. It wasn't really done for the Avengers.
Speaker 3: It was done for his friend. And not only that
Speaker 3: they spent time together there.
Speaker 2: Tony a notably arrogant guy, and one of the really
Speaker 2: wonderful things about the Bruce and Toni relationship is like
Speaker 2: they this was a person who Tony felt was on
Speaker 2: his intellectual level, and that was a really big deal
Speaker 2: to Tony. There are not a lot of people in
Speaker 2: the MCU who Tony could just like cut loose scientifically with,
Speaker 2: and Bruce was absolutely one of them. And in fact,
Speaker 2: Bruce's work.
Speaker 1: On gamma is is.
Speaker 2: Some is one of those rare things that is beyond
Speaker 2: Tony's actual scope. Back to our sorry Bruce, lets Jen
Speaker 2: know that he spoke to her parents, they know that
Speaker 2: she is safe, and we find out from Bruce that
Speaker 2: this is where he spent the post blip years, you know,
Speaker 2: working to kind of knit together his personality with the
Speaker 2: Hulk's personality and the Hulk's physical form. And this is
Speaker 2: where Bruce says, Yeah, that spaceship that was a car
Speaker 2: that was from the Planet's a car there, he says,
Speaker 2: quote probably trying to deliver a message.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yeah, we think.
Speaker 2: But first, of course, before Bruce unpacks whatever is going
Speaker 2: on as a car, we got to figure out what's
Speaker 2: going on with Jen. So what's happening with Jen is,
Speaker 2: like Bruce, she has unique genetics which allows her to
Speaker 2: synthesize gamma radiation instead of, you know, like dying like
Speaker 2: everyone else would. Jen's blood is in fact quite useful
Speaker 2: Bruce Bruce, and this is very very quietly a big deal.
Speaker 1: Bruce says that he used Jen's blood to fully heal
Speaker 1: his injured arm, which is why he can be smart Hulk. Again.
Speaker 1: This feels.
Speaker 2: Like it's going to come back time and time and
Speaker 2: time again, as as the years roll by.
Speaker 1: In the MCU, there's gonna be more about.
Speaker 3: It has to be, especially because they play it really casual,
Speaker 3: so he sees it like it's this big moment and
Speaker 3: then she's like, so that means I'm bad than you.
Speaker 3: But but it feels huge because this is something that
Speaker 3: without Jen becoming Sheethulk Bruce would never have been able
Speaker 3: to do. He doesn't need to use the the thing
Speaker 3: to control himself. He's back being Professor Hull, something that
Speaker 3: we hadn't seen or as they call him in the
Speaker 3: MCU Smarthulk. I agree. It's it's big.
Speaker 1: It's it's big, big, big folks Bruce.
Speaker 2: Then he's talking about the blood and we see the
Speaker 2: vials of Gen's blood in this holding uh, this holding device,
Speaker 2: and Bruce uses lasers to destroy all the blood samples.
Speaker 2: He says he cannot risk this blood getting out of
Speaker 2: the world, creating more problems, potentially more Gama powered folks
Speaker 2: like Emil Blonski and of course Sam Stearn's aka the Leader,
Speaker 2: who we have not seen since the end of the
Speaker 2: Incredible Hulk movie.
Speaker 1: And Rosie, I think we both agree that we could
Speaker 1: see him. It feels it's feeling like.
Speaker 2: The way Bruce just ostentatiously destroyed all the blood lets,
Speaker 2: you know that blood is gonna get out.
Speaker 3: Not only he's not a bad way too, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, this is some like real Jurassic Park logic.
Speaker 3: Care because I've watching Holly Quin. They have a great
Speaker 3: bit about Jassic Park and I think a lot of
Speaker 3: park but I'm like, he's I feel like he smashed
Speaker 3: that stuff so recklessly. I'm like a Mesquio could have
Speaker 3: drunk some of that, but that got spilled out going
Speaker 3: and buying some people in time in them INNTO Hawks like,
Speaker 3: it's too reckless for reckless to not become a problem.
Speaker 1: And of course The Leader.
Speaker 2: We've been waiting since the end of the Incredible Hulk
Speaker 2: movie to find out what's going on with Sam Stearns,
Speaker 2: who had a gamma irradiated blood drip on his forehead,
Speaker 2: causing his brain to swell to Hulk like sizes, creating
Speaker 2: the super brilliant super villain The Leader. And of course
Speaker 2: we have not heard from him since. We'll see if
Speaker 2: that continues. Jen is like, Okay, we talked about my blood.
Speaker 2: We've talked about what's going on with me. Just fix
Speaker 2: me so I can leave, Give me the inhibited advice
Speaker 2: that you have or whatever, and let me get out here.
Speaker 1: Bruce is like, listen, you don't get it.
Speaker 2: I've been dealing with this for literally early years, for
Speaker 2: over a decade of meditation of various drugs of you know, psychotherapy,
Speaker 2: just trying to deal with the fact that I'm a hulk.
Speaker 2: You're a hulk now, and you're gonna have to You're
Speaker 2: gonna have.
Speaker 1: To take this seriously. So over some pancakes.
Speaker 2: Bruce preaches the gospel of isolation and self control. That
Speaker 2: means no more stressful stuff like being a lawyer. That
Speaker 2: means hang out with me in the jungle for several years,
Speaker 2: meditate all the time. Maybe you know, like get slapped
Speaker 2: by a jiu jitsu master like I had to do
Speaker 2: down in Brazil. Maybe doing a breathing exercises as you're
Speaker 2: getting slapped in the face by this jiu jitsu master.
Speaker 1: Jenna's like, that fucking sucks. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: Uh. And then Bruce is like, oh yeah, what look
Speaker 2: at this, and he slaps a huge binder of Hulk
Speaker 2: teachings on the table and she's like, well, how long
Speaker 2: is this.
Speaker 1: Gonna take it. He's like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've crunched numbers and I'm thinking, like fifteen years to
Speaker 2: get your book stuff out her.
Speaker 3: Control, dude, just like, no, what tells us like it's
Speaker 3: actually really small narrative storytelling. It's not in the nature
Speaker 3: that it's just hilarious and fun, but also like it
Speaker 3: tells us without expositioning it or having like some deep
Speaker 3: and meaningful chat, Bruce cares about Jen so much like
Speaker 3: this is his family. He's out there, he's making binders,
Speaker 3: he's planning to just he's like Avengers, never heard of him.
Speaker 3: I'm just here with you. Next fifteen years it's happening.
Speaker 3: And the funniest shit is like Jen, just as we
Speaker 3: will come to find out, just not in that place.
Speaker 2: It doesn't, it doesn't. Well, it's two things are going
Speaker 2: on right. One she truly is kind of naive to
Speaker 2: the implications.
Speaker 1: And two.
Speaker 2: She is an active human being with a job she
Speaker 2: does want to hang up the next fifty years.
Speaker 1: Okay, So.
Speaker 2: They go down to the lab and in the lab
Speaker 2: they run some danger room style exercises involving circular saws
Speaker 2: to figure out like Jen's transformational triggers, and she transforms,
Speaker 2: and we discover right away, surprise, surprise, surprise, and very
Speaker 2: surprising to Bruce that Jen maintains her personality in hulk form.
Speaker 2: No fractured psychees, no alter ego, no voices in the head,
Speaker 2: no need for this fifteen year journey, and Bruce is
Speaker 2: clearly jealous, like je Jelly.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very jelly.
Speaker 2: It took him again, like many years to get to
Speaker 2: the smart Hulk phase with Jen just skipped to Smart
Speaker 2: Hulk immediately just smart home.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's just like the comics basically, like just
Speaker 3: jenn has had a Savage phase, which was an original phase,
Speaker 3: but then by the time she's sensational, she's just casually with.
Speaker 2: It and it's very close and in recent Avengers' stories
Speaker 2: has kind of gone into a return to Savage.
Speaker 1: She holped.
Speaker 2: But yeah, for the most part, for the vast majority
Speaker 2: of her comics history, she's been the personality of Jennifer
Speaker 2: Walter was just in a near seven foot towering physical frame.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's still work to do though. We got
Speaker 1: to figure out, like what the.
Speaker 2: Transformation is about Jen. Notably, even though she has maintained
Speaker 2: her personality while and she hoped for him, she can't
Speaker 2: go back.
Speaker 1: She can't like consciously transform back into Jen. So how
Speaker 1: do we do this?
Speaker 2: And Bruce is like, well, I had various techniques. One
Speaker 2: of them was Natasha would sing to lullabies to.
Speaker 1: Me, just honestly, so funny, you know.
Speaker 2: Other times I would just kind of pass out, and
Speaker 2: Jen is not taking this seriously again.
Speaker 1: But Bruce, you know, he carries.
Speaker 2: This massive burden of being seen as a monster by
Speaker 2: basically the whole world because he destroyed Harlem, destroyed large
Speaker 2: portions Johannesburg and Asia, Ultron other things of that nature,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't want Jen to experience that. And he's
Speaker 2: very persuasive when he talks about, you know, how traumatized
Speaker 2: he is by those events. And so Jen agrees, Okay,
Speaker 2: train me how to be a hulk. So there's a
Speaker 2: lot of mindfulness and psychotherapy stuff being presented to Jen,
Speaker 2: but she's not super ready for that. So they're like, okay,
Speaker 2: we'll skip this. Let's we'll do this tomorrow morning. Bruce
Speaker 2: sneaks into Jen's bedroom, she is transformed back into Gen.
Speaker 2: He wakes her up by firing an airhorn interfere But
Speaker 2: this is an important discovery as well as being really
Speaker 2: really funny. When she turns into Chiolk and destroys the bed,
Speaker 2: we discover that, just like Bruce, if you slip into
Speaker 2: unconsciousness in hulk form, when you wake up, you're back
Speaker 2: in human form. So more mindfulness, some tai chi, we
Speaker 2: do some Hulk Wardrobe one oh one, where you learn
Speaker 2: the importance of stretchy.
Speaker 1: Clothes, clothing.
Speaker 2: We throw some boulders, we do some hulk jumping, we
Speaker 2: do some balancing, We destroy a couple of cliffs. There's
Speaker 2: more then the upside we learn about being a hulk.
Speaker 2: Hulks can drink forever, and they never get drunk. They
Speaker 2: get buzzed, but they never get drunk. So over countless
Speaker 2: drinks at the bar that Tony and Bruce built together, awe.
Speaker 3: And they even have a little love hop with tea
Speaker 3: and a b in it.
Speaker 2: Jen and Bruce blow off a bunch of steam and
Speaker 2: they just the next day we learned that while they
Speaker 2: don't get drunk, hulks actually do experience hangovers, at least
Speaker 2: in human form. And Jen hungover, kind of annoyed at
Speaker 2: all the hulk training. She's thrown the boulder, she's jumped around,
Speaker 2: We've done all that stuff. She's like, okay, I can
Speaker 2: go home now, right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 2: Bruce is like, listen, you're not ready, and Jen is like, actually,
Speaker 2: I'm ready. And Jen is both right and wrong. She's
Speaker 2: still you know she's right that you know just let
Speaker 2: her leave. But also, Jen, you do need to take
Speaker 2: seriously the fact that you can level like an entire
Speaker 2: city block if you want to.
Speaker 3: And from what we saw, much to Bruce's chagrin, you
Speaker 3: know she is equally as powerful already as Bruce, if
Speaker 3: not slightly more powerful. So this is you really do
Speaker 3: need to take your responsibility because you are throwing the
Speaker 3: rocks further. You are Hulk smashing harder.
Speaker 1: Well, Hulk did throw they threw.
Speaker 2: I will say that it seems like they're signaling that
Speaker 2: Hulk is still strongest because when they throw the rocks,
Speaker 2: but then he was like gets his back up because
Speaker 2: his cousin is doing better than him. And it's also
Speaker 2: immediately the smarter Hulk like out of the gate. Uh,
Speaker 2: And so he throws that one boulder that goes like
Speaker 2: into fucking space like you see, and it goes like
Speaker 2: it goes like tomorrow and shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I would say she's
Speaker 3: she's encroaching on his strength, worrying speed for Bruce.
Speaker 2: She's certainly much more agile than Bruce is at this
Speaker 2: particular time. Anyway, through this, they have an argument about
Speaker 2: being able to control one's anger, and then Jen makes
Speaker 2: a really great point that listen, I've been controlling my
Speaker 2: anger because I'm a woman in the world. I've been
Speaker 2: doing that my whole life. I've been doing it much
Speaker 2: more successfully and for longer than you have. And through
Speaker 2: this conversation we discovered that Jen can now transform it will,
Speaker 2: so this is a big deal. Jen leaves, insisting that
Speaker 2: she's not going to be a superhero, which Bruce doesn't
Speaker 2: quite believe, but he's like, whatever, go with God. Jen says, Listen,
Speaker 2: why be a superhero when I can just do my job,
Speaker 2: which is be a lawyer, which is help people in
Speaker 2: the context of just being a normal, everyday person. Bruce
Speaker 2: probably fairly points out that it's not healthy for Jen
Speaker 2: to just deny that she's a Hulk. They have a
Speaker 2: big fight which ends up just throwing the bar, which
Speaker 2: Jen feels badly about. She helps him fix it, and
Speaker 2: then the next day she leaves to return to her
Speaker 2: life as a lawyer. Back to the present, Jen hasn't
Speaker 2: turned into she Hulk since those days back in Mexico.
Speaker 2: Months back. Only her family and Niki shows you how
Speaker 2: close Nicki is to her know about Jen's jolly green secret.
Speaker 2: She says I was right and Brust was wrong, and
Speaker 2: I never need to be a hulk. Okay, show over, right, Rosie.
Speaker 1: That's it and the she Oak program and that's it.
Speaker 2: That's all, folks, though absolutely wrong. In the courtroom, closing
Speaker 2: arguments have taken place. The case is some kind of
Speaker 2: corporate thing in which some kind of corporate exec caused
Speaker 2: multiple deaths. But before we can really get to the
Speaker 2: bottom of that, Jen is about to make her closing argument.
Speaker 2: The supervillion Titanya comes blasting through the wall and Nicki
Speaker 2: is like, Jen, this is it.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it.
Speaker 2: Give me a slip off the shoes. You don't want
Speaker 2: to destroy the shoes, give me your jacket. But now's
Speaker 2: the time transformed shee Hook and Jen transforms into Sheehook
Speaker 2: and the fight is super brief because Jen is strong
Speaker 2: as fuck. She punches to ted Ya one time, into
Speaker 2: a wall and into a deep sleep and that's it.
Speaker 1: Show over.
Speaker 2: But we go to our stinger and folks, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take a small victory lap here.
Speaker 1: We know all about X ray vision is right.
Speaker 2: This is a take I had from before the x
Speaker 2: ray Vision days, from back in the bingemod days, we
Speaker 2: go back to the bar in Mexico, Jen pretending to
Speaker 2: be drunk, gets Bruce to admit how Steve lost his virginity,
Speaker 2: and folks, it is the exact way that I said
Speaker 2: Steve lost his virginity in binge mode when we were
Speaker 2: talking about Captain America the Winter Soldier.
Speaker 1: My theory was that.
Speaker 2: Listen, Steve had people throwing it at him, men and women,
Speaker 2: and when he was on tour in nineteen forty three,
Speaker 2: selling fucking bonds and promoting promoting the war, it just
Speaker 2: it just stands to reason that at some point in time.
Speaker 1: He got it in.
Speaker 2: It just would happen because people were coming at him left,
Speaker 2: right and center, and at some point it would have happened.
Speaker 2: And in the stinger of the first episode of She Hulk,
Speaker 2: Bruce admits that Steve lost is Shirley on that very
Speaker 2: nineteen forty three us. So to our folks, we called
Speaker 2: it and that is why you listen to this program,
Speaker 2: because you're going to get that kind of analysis from
Speaker 2: Rosie Knight and yours truly, folks.
Speaker 1: She Hulk.
Speaker 2: That was fun and I can't wait to talk about
Speaker 2: this show because you're getting a lot of stuff there
Speaker 2: is actually right, there's not just the connection to our
Speaker 2: legacy Avengers with Bruce playing a pivotal role in the pilot,
Speaker 2: but it's very clear that this is going to be
Speaker 2: the kind of show that that is going to push uh,
Speaker 2: the MCU lore and characters and stuff further. I mean
Speaker 2: you already said it, there's gonna be more Hulk characters. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because of this that that blood is getting out there, folks.
Speaker 2: There's no way Jen's blood just stays on the shelf.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And and like we said, you know, even if it does,
Speaker 3: I believe it will probably happen in this season. But
Speaker 3: if it doesn't, Bruce getting the message from Sakar that's
Speaker 3: it means Scar like these are the things like we
Speaker 3: saw we saw him in Thoragnarok, in his giant sexy
Speaker 3: skuyay with like his his fans. You know, I agree
Speaker 3: with you something that I kind of that blows my
Speaker 3: mind about this. And I can't say it one hundred
Speaker 3: yet because Wandervision exists, and that is one of the
Speaker 3: weirdest deep cut MCU shows ever with the amount of
Speaker 3: references they stuffed in. But I will say from this
Speaker 3: episode and what I've seen of the show so far,
Speaker 3: it does feel like it's gonna compete with One Division
Speaker 3: for introducing weird, deep cut, fun marvel law, and I
Speaker 3: actually think it might even get to do more because
Speaker 3: One Division, though it had so many fun references, a
Speaker 3: lot of it was just references. It didn't make stuff concrete.
Speaker 3: But even in this episode, we get canon nods to
Speaker 3: funny fan theories Steve Rodgers, you know, we get cementation
Speaker 3: of the idea that Bruce and TONI were actually much
Speaker 3: closer than we ever knew. I think you're right, it's
Speaker 3: going to push the boundaries of not only the tone
Speaker 3: and the humor. I mean, let's be real. Eternals was
Speaker 3: the first time that we saw people having sex in
Speaker 3: the MCU outside of an implied sex scene in Iron
Speaker 3: Man one, and that was very serious, and we've never
Speaker 3: really had people just joking about the adult realities of
Speaker 3: being a superhero. That is very much in the space
Speaker 3: of what Shee Hulk is doing. And I think that
Speaker 3: tone and freedom is going to bring a lot of
Speaker 3: new fani we a.
Speaker 2: Deep worf to the you know, we've talked a lot
Speaker 2: about potentially the West Coast Avengers coming together, potentially young Avengers,
Speaker 2: who are based in Los Angeles for a lot of time,
Speaker 2: potentially come together. And this is a show that takes
Speaker 2: place in California, in LA, which we haven't really been
Speaker 2: back to since the Tony Stark Iron Man movies with
Speaker 2: Tony's Malibu Fucking Barbie Dreamhouse sliding into the ocean. We
Speaker 2: haven't really been back there since then. Like most of
Speaker 2: Tony's stuff took place on the East Coast. Of course,
Speaker 2: the Avengers stuff took place there as well, So this
Speaker 2: is also an expansion of the kind of like power
Speaker 2: centers geographically of the MCU I think we're going to see. Obviously,
Speaker 2: we know Daredevil is in this, we're other heroes. We
Speaker 2: know that She Hulk at some point in time is
Speaker 2: going to defend Blonski. So this is more superheroes in LA,
Speaker 2: giving us a further expansion geographically of just places that
Speaker 2: superheroes hang out. We already know they hang out in
Speaker 2: New York, They're hanging out in LA too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would I'm very interested to see. So
Speaker 3: this takes very heavily from we can we can assume
Speaker 3: the dance slot YEP arc, especially because some some preview
Speaker 3: images and trailers have shown a different law firm or
Speaker 3: a law firm that Jen is going to work at
Speaker 3: gl K and H, which is from the Dance Slot stuff,
Speaker 3: which is the more superhero style law. It also takes
Speaker 3: very heavily from the Charles Saul Haveavier Polito run, which
Speaker 3: is really fun.
Speaker 1: In nowly fun.
Speaker 3: That's like my favorite.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 3: I've been reading both them. The Dance Slot one has
Speaker 3: so much great legal stuff. It's it's very of its time,
Speaker 3: so there's like good bits and bad bits. But the
Speaker 3: Saul stuff, there is a sequence that I'm so interested
Speaker 3: to see if they bring in Ari Daredevil right, dead Devil,
Speaker 3: he's Hell's Kitchens guy. But in the Charles Saul Dead Eve.
Speaker 1: Should we even talk about it now? I'm like wondering
Speaker 1: if that's if the case that they try is the case.
Speaker 1: Because it is, we shouldn't talk about it.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to get the cases too much,
Speaker 3: so I'm not going to get anything. There is a moment.
Speaker 3: This is a tone theory. Now that we've mentioned that case.
Speaker 3: If it happens, we're saying we're right.
Speaker 2: If it is not that that's a crazy for it's
Speaker 2: literally the colleagues.
Speaker 1: But still yeah, but you no, No.
Speaker 3: There's one moment in that version Jeen goes to ask
Speaker 3: Matt Murdock for help, but Matt is living in San
Speaker 3: Francisco and they sit on the top of the San
Speaker 3: Francisco and it's so fun, and I kind of wonder
Speaker 3: if we're even going to get that, Like it's a
Speaker 3: little bit more outside of LA It's just this expansion
Speaker 3: of that idea of the West Coast and what that
Speaker 3: looks like in the MCU outside of Tony's Mallaby dream House.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm very excited and I love I also
Speaker 3: think you mentioned West Coast Avengers. You mentioned these saying
Speaker 3: those stories have often been the more wacky stories, the
Speaker 3: most out their ideas, the kind of silly stuff. So
Speaker 3: I think that you're really on point there, especially as
Speaker 3: this is a nine episode series, so a little bit
Speaker 3: longer than what we've been getting recently, and we know
Speaker 3: it's going to be a courtroom drama, and we've already
Speaker 3: seen from the trailer that it's going to include wild,
Speaker 3: deep cut Marvel characters, so it feels like this could
Speaker 3: also be a place to potentially introduce some other heroes
Speaker 3: that might be connected to that even if not in
Speaker 3: the long term, in more of a way to just
Speaker 3: kind of establish that the West Coast has also had
Speaker 3: heroes this whole time.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to talk about it more as
Speaker 1: the show airs.
Speaker 2: That's it for our show. A big thank you to
Speaker 2: Rosie night, Rosie, what do you have to plug?
Speaker 1: Plug? Plug? Plug plug plug.
Speaker 3: I will have lots of cool Shee Hulk pieces coming
Speaker 3: out over the next few weeks. I will be talking
Speaker 3: about she Hulk with the creators. I will be doing
Speaker 3: explainers all that kind of stuff that will be it nerdiced.
Speaker 3: I will also be having some cool stuff coming out
Speaker 3: other spots, IGN NF Geek, all that kind of stuff
Speaker 3: for a bunch of different shows. We're about to get
Speaker 3: into the wildest TV season that we've seen in a
Speaker 3: long time, so it's gonna be able to come to us.
Speaker 3: And if you need extra stuff, you're gonna have Jason
Speaker 3: on House to the Dragon. You're gonna have me writing
Speaker 3: about House of the Dragon, Lord of the Rings, all
Speaker 3: that stuff, so that's really cool. You can find me
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