WEBVTT - The Best of The Dan Patrick Show 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.560 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.680 Sports Radio. Please welcome front of the show. 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:18.680 Marcus spears Marcus, Yeah, right there, Marcus looks like he's 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:20.200 in game shape. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:22.439 Do you think you give me a couple of downs? 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.799 Yeah? Yeah. My wife a couple of weeks ago was like, 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:26.880 I'm tired of you being. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:30.360 Fat, but you made a living being that way. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:32.680 You didn't make a change then, yeah, yeah, but I 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:34.599 don't have to make that living anymore. So you know, 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:37.319 it's a it's a it's a heavy burden to try 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:38.040 to get weight off. 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:42.760 Man. The biggest player you played against was who Larry Allen? Okay, yeah, 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.320 but he was just a teammate. Yeah, that was practice. Yeah, 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:47.919 that was double teams in practice. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:49.920 That was that's a bad day. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:53.480 Yeah. My first game actually was against Willie Rolfe when 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.560 he was in Kansas City. Now he was one hundred 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.320 years old, but it did not feel like it. It 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.560 did not feel like it felt like he was twenty. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.200 So what's different about somebody that size? Well, yeah, I mean, look, 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.639 my job in my defense was to hold those guys 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.640 up so our linebackers could make plays. So imagine somebody 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:18.120 asking you to hold up four hundred pounds sixty times 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.880 like we you know, I was in the league when 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.240 we when they ran the football all game like I 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.480 wish I played now, probably be a lot healthier and 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.640 a lot more mentally stable, but ultimately it was it 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.959 was what I had to do. Wait, yeah, yeah, the 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.440 game made me that way really Yeah, how some because 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.000 you had to psych yourself out, damn like you know 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.280 that man like you was covering it with. You had 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.400 to psych yourself out to play against like Willie RoAF 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.600 and take double teams from Flosia Adams and Larry Allen 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.080 every day in practice, and you know Clint Ports and 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:58.320 Washington running it sixty times and Ron Dane hitting you 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.120 in the face mass every time. You know, look green Bay, 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:06.560 we here in Green Bay, as BJ Roger. How it was, Yeah, 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:07.760 it was? It was different. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.440 What was the game? What was the day after game day? 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.280 Like lay in the bed, It was just a it 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.920 was a lay in the bed fast and like it 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.600 took me a couple of years for me to believe 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:24.320 my strength and conditioning coaches about you need to move 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.680 when you feel horrible. So it was very difficult for 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.119 me to like put my mind around go and take 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.320 like jogs and lift some weights the day after the game. 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.400 But as you get older, you realize it worked for you. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.200 So I were Jerry Jones, I guess he's all in 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.880 now with maybe what they're gonna do with the you know, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:43.880 with trades here with the draft. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.959 We couldn't get five minutes, six minutes. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.920 And but well you played, you played with the Cowboys, 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.000 and that's the only that's the only reason why I 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.000 bring that up is trying to understand the inner workings 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:53.680 here of. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.799 But it's like it's like a It's like when you're 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.000 in a relationship and the man keep telling the woman 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:03.840 I'm gonna get better, right, and she realized, like it's 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.480 we're fifteen years in now you still trying to do 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.640 those things that you said you will go get better at. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.480 I'm just going to wait and see with Jerry Man, Like, but. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.200 Why even teas that you might do that? Why not 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:17.760 where's the element of surprised? 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.919 Because Daan Patrick is going to ask me about it, Like, listen, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.720 it is I think the intentions are good, and I 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.919 say that all the time, right, their intentions are good. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.760 And then Jerry gets off on another tangent and he 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.720 forgets that he has to run a football team. So, yeah, 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.320 it's unfortunate. There's something I gropple with most of the 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.840 year since I decided to do this job. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.119 Okay, cam Ward goes number one. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:44.200 Yeah. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.440 Daniel Jeremiah said that it's a certainty that Travis Hunter 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.760 is going to that leaves the Giants in kind of 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.640 an interesting situation. Yeah, because I like Abdul Carter, but 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.520 I need to know more about Abdul Carter with his foot. Ye, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.400 but I wonder if they're open for business of maybe 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.600 somebody going up and getting Ashton Genty a little bit higher. 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.720 And three, why not just throwing it. This is the 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.000 rebirth of the running. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:17.520 Back I know, but they just you know, first I 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.600 let miss I think they'll go. I think they'll take 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.080 Abdue Carter. Okay, let me say that. Let me put 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:27.320 that out there. Ashton gent needs to reach out to 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.720 Saquan and Christian McCaffrey and Derreck Henery and be like, 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:36.040 I should appreciate y'all brothers man like for bringing us 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.400 back from the dead man. Two years ago, we were 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.760 having a conversation about running backs not being needed in 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.839 the NFL, Like it's a crazy world when they transitioned 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.400 like that. But I think you know what happened. You know, 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.520 defense has got smaller and faster, and everybody wanted to 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:51.120 get physical. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.000 And I said there would be a market correction because 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.640 all of a sudden, it's like, you can't stop our 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:01.239 running backs because on Wall Street will there be Yeah, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.800 I need your help. I'm struggling right now. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:10.520 No, look, man, I think generational pass rushers is what 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:15.359 they've attached to. Abdul Carter right, And he doesn't like 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.800 the comparisons of Michael Parsons, but unfortunately, when you turn 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.120 the field mo on, you can't tell them apart. And 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.560 Michaeh has given a really good sample size of what 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.320 that type athleticism, what that type of burse can do 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.479 in the defense. And him being opposite of Brian Burns 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.520 and big Dexter Lawrence in the middle, he'll get a 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.400 lot of one on ones. And last time we saw 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.800 the jo I know, Eli and a great play get 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:39.360 a lot of credit. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.039 But that d Lion won the Super Bowl for him. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.760 So it's hard to pass that up, man Like, it's 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.160 hard to pass that up, especially if you think you're 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.320 gonna get a guy that's gonna be a consistent ten 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.880 ten to twelve sacks a year. That's hard to pass up. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:58.479 And you not sure on because remember the Giants. Now 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.839 I made know at all season long, but they took 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:06.480 sa Quan second and that that was an impactful individual 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:11.440 position while he was healthy. But that D line is Hey, man, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.520 I tell people all the time, if you don't start 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.520 up front, I don't care if you got I don't 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:17.280 care who it is. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.640 Well, that's why I looked at the Eagles that you 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:23.760 put the combination of offensive defensive line start there. Everybody gets 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.160 caught up in quarterback or wide receiver whatever. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.600 Because it's boring, Dan, I know it's boring. It's boring 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:31.960 to talk about the big uglies. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.320 Okay, but how does that work on when you guys 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.680 do NFL live? Yeah, and let's say you do want 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.599 to talk about defensive line, because this is a draft 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.320 that's full of defensive line. That's not sexy. No, it's 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.800 not sexy. But I don't care, like I mean, yeah, 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:47.920 but they have a rundown here. 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.400 I don't screw the rundown, right, I got, you know, 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.760 I got, But honestly, man, like the people that I 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.760 work with, especially on NFL Live and not to cast 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.880 in this personal anybody else, because we get a deeper 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.600 dive of football like that show is getting into the 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.440 weeds and the nuts and bolsa football like Mina is 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.600 a D line in that heart, the smallest person on earth, 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.080 but she loves talking about the line of scrimmers. Dan 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.040 only wants to talk about quarterbacks, so he keeps us 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.720 a happy medium. Man RC played defense, so he gets 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.920 he understands played on one of the best defenses ever 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.920 in the in the league. So I think a lot 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.160 of times and I'll produce. I gotta get Mark Asman 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.000 a lot of credit, like he understands where I fall. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.000 When it comes to making sure that we get our 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.520 good conversation about what's happening upfront, I will not. I 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.960 will fight it to the death to talk about D 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.760 line and offensive line play more than more D line play. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.720 Though he's Marcus Spears. You were twentieth overall picks, so 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.800 you went before Aaron Rodgers. 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:52.920 Yeah, yeah, unfortunately, Yeah, Well why because I mean Dallas 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:54.200 was stupid not to take him. 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.920 Were they going to take No, No, there was no 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:58.880 thought of taking you. 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.480 No, they didn't need a didn't they didn't at that time. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.760 They didn't feel like they needed a quarterback, and Romo 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.560 turned out to be pretty good for some years. But 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.360 you know, it's hindsight twenty twenty, right, Like, if I 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:14.240 was drafting again, I would take Aaron Rodgers before me. Okay, right, basically, 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.200 what would you do with Romo? He probably would never 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.520 see the field, go somewhere else and play. You know, 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:21.600 I thought. 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.120 Romo was a very underrated quarterback. He was like, if 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:26.240 he doesn't get hurt. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.360 Yeah, he'll play five seven more years and have a 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:31.239 chance at the Hall. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.640 He might be a borderline yeah, borderline yeah. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:34.080 Yeah. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:39.439 Unfortunately got hurt. Fortunately he got signed by CBS. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:45.160 Cool. But you know what, the law. The law works 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:50.320 mysterious way. Buddy. Let me tell you something. If I 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:51.920 had to hurt my back to get that, I would 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:53.240 have did it. I would have done it too. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:53.960 Straight up. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:58.320 You'd fake an injury. Yeah, absolutely. But do you believe 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.760 anything you hear this week the. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:04.960 Draft in the next twenty four outside of the first guy, No, Like, 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:09.199 we kind of pretty much. That assimilates a couple of 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.160 weeks leading into it, and you start to realize, like, Okay, 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.400 this is for sure so I think the only shock 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:16.079 would be if cam Wore didn't go first. 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.240 Yeah, I think the Giants wanted to go up and 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:18.640 get him. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.240 Yeah, but yeah. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.920 Which leads me to believe they're not gonna. 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.200 I think they'll sit at three and wait for the 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:26.760 best player. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:33.559 If Shodoor Sanders was Shadoor Thomas. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:41.160 Uh, maybe it'll be different. Listen, here's my take on Shador. Right. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.040 It falls in a little bit of line with C. J. Stroud. Right, 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.800 we're talking about that athleticism, and he doesn't have that 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.160 eyepop and stuff that you see now in the league 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.960 where players are the Josh Allens of the world, George 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.679 Love here, Lamar, guys that can get out, create and 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.199 do phenomenal things. He plays the position at a high level, though, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.360 Like and I get it that it is Colorado and 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.160 he went to Jackson State. You gotta figure out what 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.320 the competition was like. But watching him play the position, 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.440 you see a lot of traits that translate. Now, is 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.560 it third overall translation? I don't think so. Like I didn't. 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:17.559 I didn't. I didn't think that that was that high. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.240 I didn't think Daniel Jones should have went six. But people, 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.800 you know, you either fall in love with these guys 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.280 or you don't. But I think Chador could be one 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.360 of those guys that ends up going late, goes to 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.880 a really good situation where he can develop and become 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:39.199 a really good starter in the league. Now, damn, ninety 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.319 eight percent of them fail. Like, this is my thing 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.040 about the draft. We all get here, like all these 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.240 dudes gonna turn into Hall of Famous, like four of 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.960 them do every every year, no matter what position, Like 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.920 four of them really turn out to be franchised changers. Right, 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.400 Most of these guys in the first round they end 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.720 up being really good starters or or they start and 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:05.080 they play well and they are important pieces to these organizations. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.240 But the conversation around the draft is if he gonna 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.240 is he gonna be the face of the franchise? Is 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.680 he gonna change the team trajectory? The answer most of 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.040 the time is hell no. Right, But when you're drafting 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.040 a quarterback, you're putting a lot of stock into this 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.400 guy becoming what you hopefully think he can become based 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.080 on your projections. I don't think Shador lacks any of 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.280 those things that you think you can turn him into 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.840 a really good starter. Now, it matters with coaching, it 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:37.040 matters with situation. It matters like even here right Green Bay. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.840 I remember how y'all were acting when George Love got drafted. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.560 I'm not gonna look I see the crowd over there, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.560 I'm not gonna look at us, right. But I was 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.400 one of the ones that said, like, at what point 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.280 do you start the contingency player? Like do we wait 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:56.719 till these guys literally die to get a new quarterback? No, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.840 you get a guy, you bring him in the system, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.080 you let him sit, you let him groom. He was 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.440 behind a guy that won two MVPs while he was 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.480 here and air, so it was it was perfect. Now 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.360 you walk into the Green Bay Stadium, it's number ten 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.800 jerseys everywhere, right, So I think there you should have 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:17.040 a plan. Pittsburgh is still waffling because they didn't have 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.720 a plan. Right. So if you gonna take these guys 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.079 late in the draft, or even if you're New York 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.640 and you just signed Russ and jamis right, and you 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:28.400 decide at some eleventh hour that Chador is gonna be 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.880 the guy, well he still can sit and learn, Like, 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.560 we're not paying these guys fifty million dollars before they 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.560 show up to the facility anymore. You could, you could 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.240 handle the financial part of it. So I don't, I don't. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:46.080 I don't see anything about Chador's game that tells me 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.800 he can't turn into a really good starting the league. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.480 I mean, think about it. Darreon Olowski played thirteen years. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.360 No, he was on a team for thirteen years. He 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.600 was on a team for thirteen years. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:12:59.040 What is that? 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.720 I mean so so a lot of teams thought he 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.080 was serviceable. 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.840 As a backup. I don't care, or a backup to 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:07.360 the backup. 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:08.920 That was just a shot that day. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.040 I know, Yeah, he takes enough shots he do. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.240 It doesn't stop. It's gonna be fair. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.240 But you know the only reason why bring up you 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.520 know when you talk about Shudor is in today's NFL. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.880 As Steve Young says every time he's on the show, 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.040 there is so much real estate out there for you 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.840 to go get. The defenses are giving this to you, 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.240 and if you don't have somebody who can go get that, 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.280 you got to find somebody who can. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.480 Go He can go get five to seven though, like bro, 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:35.480 think about it, So. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.440 He's where do the athleticism got? Leon took all of it. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.560 I know if any you know, the Lord was like, 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.720 I gave you all of it yours, but but you 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:50.200 skip a generations, like my dad is only five to ten. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:56.200 You know what I'm saying. That suns for him. But again, man, 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.880 like you look at you, look at you, look at 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.640 these we always have to be first of all, Steve 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.520 Young is Steve Young. So Steve was and people forget 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:11.120 like Steve Young was the first like dual threat killer 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.240 right in Randall Conneham. These guys have been around for 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:19.000 a long time. Like we it's so public now because 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.240 we got media everywhere that we think that Lamar and 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.280 Josh and all of these guys are first. The amount 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.520 of athletes that played quarterback were and you got to 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.000 think in the generation of most of those quarterbacks that 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.640 before this group of guys now they were all two 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.560 three sport athletes. That was the thing to do when 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.880 we were growing up. You played basketball, you played, you 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.840 ran track, you played so they weren't just quarterbacks. But 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.000 I look at it. Can you go get me five 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.760 yards on the third and four and we dropped back, 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.840 can you get me eight to ten? I think chaduer 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.440 can do that. He's not gonna break a home run. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.800 But how many of them really can? I mean, there's 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.160 a few of us, but man, we talking about like 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.880 six play it's thirty two teams. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.400 Okay, but those are the elite quarterbacks, those are the 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.560 teams in the playoffs, those are the teams winning super. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.280 I mean we would, we would all get them if 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.520 they were all out there. It's supplied to mad like 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.880 I just I don't. I don't. I can't subscribe. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.240 But that's my only hold up with sor. 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.400 Yeah but we but but how then? Literally what you 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.320 just said, right, thirty two of them is like seven 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.920 of those guys you're not gonna find. I don't think 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.040 cam Ward is a standout athlete. 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.920 He's pretty good. He is, He's always pretty good. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.280 But if you're gonna compare me yelling at each other, 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.640 I don't know you. You just made me mad. But 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:44.080 if you if you gonna compare them to Josh, you 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.120 gonna compare him to. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:50.360 I'm just saying, getting five yards is Steve meant? 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.680 I saw Jared Golf get eighteen yards? I saw uh, 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:59.520 I saw who else? I'm thinking about old old man 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.160 in La right now, Mate, Matt took off a couple 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.560 of times, like we don't have to. We don't have 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.720 to like think that these guys got to be four 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:12.240 four us and and you know we've been for years 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.280 trying to get Josh Allen not to run through people 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.200 face mask so we can watch him play for the 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.360 next fifteen years. Right, So yeah, Dan, stop man, Okay, 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.440 all right, all right, it's just not enough of them. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.480 Why don't you take this enthusiasm to NFL Live today? 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.160 I will all right, that's a tease. Yeah, he's a 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.800 Marcus Spears and uh he'll be with Dan Orlovsky's good 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.840 buddy Mina comes Ryan Clark Laura Rutledge today at for 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:42.600 Eastern and extended editions Thursday and Friday beginning at three Eastern. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.120 I love you man, always great to see you. 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:45.640 I love you brother. Thank you. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.520 Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:52.240 Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.480 on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio w APP. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.120 Matt Lafleur, the Packer's head coach who joins us on 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.720 the program, is in season. There, come on in Coach. 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:08.000 The Packers went eleven and six the number two seed Eagles. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.159 They lost to them. Hi Bud, good to see you. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.680 So sit down. We got a home field advantage here. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.680 I know, nine o'clock in the morning, drinking some beer. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.520 They only in Green Bay. 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.560 They started showing up at three point thirty in the 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.560 morning for tomorrow night's draft. Yeah, I know. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.600 So when it comes to draft week, are you any 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.840 different than you are in other weeks preparing for the draft? 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:34.800 Well, I mean you're juggling. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.679 We have our first phase of the off season programs, 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.720 so right now we're doing it virtually because of just 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:45.160 all the people that are congregating to Green Bay, and 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.400 so you're just kind of juggling that schedule and doing 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.200 the last second setting. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:51.320 Of the board. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.880 But in dealing with the media, in what you say 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.280 and how you say, because you don't want to tip 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:58.679 your hand, sure are you? 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.639 Like how good are you at lying? 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:05.280 Just depends who you're asking. 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.680 So, like, let me say, who are you drafting? 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.560 Well, that's a great question, you know, That's what I 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.240 usually say, who are we drafted? I'm sure you've done 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.480 a mock so no, no, no, I'm only somebody here. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.320 No, no, no, we do not. We are mock free. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:21.960 We are mockless. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.200 But some that I. 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.080 Watch and I look at and I'm like, I hope not. 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.600 And then there's others that I get really excited about. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.760 So but you have to It's almost like you're preparing 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.840 somebody for a deposition. You're just like, okay, let's create 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.359 a mock draft. Now how do we react to that? 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.880 So you would go through scenarios, probably in real time, 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.359 where somebody goes all right, cam Ward's off the board, 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:49.760 Travis off the board, Ash and Genty off the board. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.800 So then you get to where you guys are. 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.720 Yeah, you know that's something that our scouting department does 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.680 more than what we do as a staff. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.200 Oh So you wouldn't get together in a room and go, okay, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.320 if this happens, then we do this. 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.000 No, but our scouting department does all that. Okay, So 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.040 we focus more our time. Like I said, it's it's 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.760 phase one of our off season programs. So the majority 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.880 of our time this week is dedicated to our players. 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.120 I was talking to Mel Kuyper about this, and he said, 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:23.520 why do coaches and gms put more faith or credence 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.280 in things that happen after a season is over? 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.080 So they haven't these guys haven't played any games. 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.800 You know, maybe the Senior Bowl, and Mel said, you know, 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.400 you're trying to get guys playing against guys who will 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.639 play in the NFL, because there are guys who are 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.320 playing against guys who won't be in the NFL and 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.760 trying to understand just how good somebody is. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.080 So how difficult is that to go? 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.159 Ashton Genty, I see him and man, he's dominating, But 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.800 is he dominating against guys who will play in the 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:56.160 NFL or Shador Sanders playing against somebody or a wide receiver? 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.679 So how do you then kind of read between the 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.479 lines of that guy's legitimate. 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.800 Well, I think you always are looking for certain traits 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.080 at every position, and obviously there's a lot of testing 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.439 and the guys are doing less and less of that, 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.920 but you're just looking for traits. I do think it 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.119 becomes more of a challenge when you're maybe at some 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.960 of the lower levels, when guys just absolutely dominate the competition. 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.560 It's easier when you're looking at some guys that are 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.679