1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving. Weird thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: for being a listener here on the Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. You're listening to the best of Clay 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome back in our number three 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: hanging out with us. So as you listen to the 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: music that is bringing us back here at the top 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: of the hour, a lot of you have the same 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: reaction that we have had over the years. For decades, 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Rush's theme song has reminded everyone out there truth and 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: clarity on the way. It's an iconic song forever that's 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: going to be attached to Rush Limbaugh and everything that 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: he represented. As we come up on the one year 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: anniversary of this show, these songwrites are expiring and we 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: wanted to take this time. Buck and we talked a 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: lot about this behind the scenes. As this songwrites are expiring, 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: take the time to find a song for this show 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: that could be as iconic and irreplaceable in the future, 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: and also that would feature a band that really loves 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: and respects what our political beliefs are. Because there's a 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: lot of you out there. Know there are a lot 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: of bands that do not respect what we believe in 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: every day, and so we spend a lot of time 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: on this book. And for us, this is really like 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: retiring the jersey in sports, because Russia stem song is 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: forever attached to his memory, everything he built, and we 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: deeply honor that his legacy, and that song is a 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: part of his legacy. Of course, So with all of 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: that in mind, and given as we said that the 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: songwrites are expiring soon, we found this amazing band. Clay 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: is actually friends with the individuals in this band Lit. 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: You may know the band Lit. The song we've landed 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: on is called My Own Worst Enemy. It has tens 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: of millions of YouTube plays. There are hundreds and hundreds 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: of rock stations that we're playing it. When it first 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: came out in nineteen ninety nine, which I will say 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: is a great year, a phenomenal year, maybe the greatest 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: year of all time. And Clay, a really great thing 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: is it's rare to find a rock band that honestly 40 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: doesn't have the politics of a bunch of evil commies, 41 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: no matter how good their music may be. These guys 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: are patriots. They love America, you know them. They listen 43 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: to the show, Yeah, I listen. I know them personally, 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: and so I'll give you a I'll give you a story. 45 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: They live here in Nashville. The band is lit again. 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: The song is My own Worst Enemy. If you are 47 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: a fan at all of nineteen nineties era music, this 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: is one of the most iconic songs that came out 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: of the nineties. I met these guys many times over 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: the years here in Nashville, and actually I was over 51 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: at their house once and I walked in and they 52 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: had a college football game on as Utah was playing, 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: and we're number one in Salt Lake City, so shout 54 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: out to the Utes, and I just thought that was interesting. 55 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: I watched every college football game, but they were they 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: had Utah on, and I walked in and Jeremy Popoff, 57 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: who is one of the members of the band, his 58 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: son was a student manager for the Utah Utes football team. 59 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: So I got to know the family really well, and 60 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: in fact, their son was one of the interns for OutKick, 61 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: and I've gotten to know them so well. And we 62 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: were making this decision. Buck was really important to me 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: that we feature music from people who were respect and 64 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: love and have the same political beliefs as us. These 65 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: guys moved to Tennessee from California because they were so 66 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: frustrated with the direction that California politics had gone, and 67 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: they are going to be long time listeners of this show. 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: They woved Rush, and when we had this conversation with them, Buck, 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you should have seen their faces and how 70 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: excited they were to be able to bring their music 71 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: to this audience and connect their brand and their spirit 72 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: with the spirit and the brand of the greatest radio 73 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: show audience that has ever existed in American history. So 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: we spent a lot of time on this. When they 75 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: told us this song was expiring, that the contract was 76 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: running out, that they wanted to make sure that it 77 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: was forever iconic and connected to Rush, that we could 78 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: find our own version of this. And I'm confident that 79 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: you guys are going to like it in the same 80 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: way my city was gone to find Rush again. I 81 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: think your analogy is a good one, Buck of retiring, 82 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, sort of, the Jersey will always be proud 83 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: of our affiliation with Rush in that theme song, but 84 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: we hope that this new song will also be a 85 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: big part of our listening family. I think we're going 86 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: to day and on Monday. It may take some time 87 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: for people to get used to, but we wanted to 88 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: directly address this with you instead of just flipping a 89 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: switch and suddenly you guys are like, what the world happened? 90 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: We we we live every day on this show to 91 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: serve this audience, the audience that Rush built, and everything 92 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: we do keeps in mind that legacy and all that 93 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: he built over decades. So we make decisions here with 94 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: that as a as a load stars, as a guiding 95 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: point for us. And so with that in mind, we 96 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: are retiring the jersey. So to speak of a great song, 97 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: a song, let's be honest that Rush made great. Actually, 98 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: I think that that's fair to say. It is really 99 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: associated with Rush more than anything than anything else about 100 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: that song. And now we're going to be introducing folks 101 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: to LIT and we think that they will. We hope 102 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: they'll enjoy it. We want to hear from you, by 103 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: the way, as we say we serve you. We serve 104 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: this audience every day. That's why we're here. And it's 105 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: an honor. Honestly, it is a privilege. And I've said 106 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: this before and I think you can tell Clay and 107 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. We really mean it. We're 108 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: lucky to be able to do this show every day. 109 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: It's a great blessing for all of us to be 110 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: able to talk to all of you. So I want 111 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: to hear for some of you. Of you are if 112 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, lid, if you're excited about the prospect of 113 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of some nineties music being thrown into 114 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: the mix here, you've already heard some nineties here and there. 115 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we're you know, we want to keep it 116 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: just from an audio and music lover perspective, keep it, 117 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: keep it fresh and moving, and introduce you to new 118 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: things in general. And so if you have any thoughts 119 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: on this one eight two two two eight eight two, 120 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: we would love to chat with you about it and 121 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: hear what you think about it, and know that we 122 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: know that it's a transition and for some of you 123 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: might take a little bit of getting used to. But 124 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: we're excited about it and it will be I think 125 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: something we all look back on and say, this is 126 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: kind of a fun It's a fun thing. It's a 127 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: fun thing to get to have a relationship with this 128 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: band this way and to have a sound that will 129 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: be associated with us in my neighborhood. Buck, I sent 130 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: you this video. We had a nineties tribute band come 131 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: out and play here in Nashville, and the very first 132 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties song that the tribute band played was My 133 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: Own Worst Enemy, and so I took I mean, there's 134 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, several thousand people at this event. It was 135 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: great out here in Franklin and h and I took 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: a video of it. And actually in downtown Franklin probably 137 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, I was at a charity 138 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: event and Lit came and played My own and Worst Enemy, 139 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: and the entire place just went crazy. So I know, 140 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: everybody's got different musical interest and just different musical taste. 141 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: And when you came of age, you may think is 142 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: the greatest music of all time, regardless of when you 143 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: came of age. So for Buck and Eye, the nineties 144 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: are basically the best era of music that ever exists. 145 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: And you know, we did a little testing. I mean, 146 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: I try to convince some maybe my acapella rendition of 147 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: the Machina would be a good way to go and 148 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: that would really fire people up. But apparently, you know, 149 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: that wasn't really gonna make it quite as effect. I 150 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: don't think I've told you this, buck, but I am 151 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: tone deaf like I can't. This may not surprise people 152 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: because I don't necessarily do great when it comes to pronunciations. 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: But I was in chorus in high school and I 154 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: was so tone deaf in terms of being able to 155 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: sing that the chorus teacher said, you mouth the words. 156 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: I've never heard of a chorus teacher doing this before. 157 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: He stood in front of the basis till he could 158 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: find out who was messing up the pitch, and he said, 159 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: you have a good speaking voice. He said, you will 160 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: announce from now on. In course, you had to take chorus. 161 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: You had to take an art to graduate. The mind 162 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: was chorus. He said, from now on, you will announce 163 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: the songs that we sing, but you will actually just 164 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: mouth the words. We don't need. You've ever heard of 165 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: anybody being told that who's a member of a choral group. 166 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: You announced you have a good voice, good speaking voice. 167 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: You could announce what we're going to sing, but you 168 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: can no longer sing. This reminds me of when I 169 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: was short for a short period time trying to play 170 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: ice hockey in the third grade, and they told him 171 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: and I told the counselor or the coach my helmet 172 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: was too small for my huge head, and it was 173 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: and he's like, no, it's not and he put it 174 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: on my head and he goes, yeah, I know it 175 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: is too small. So I couldn't. I had to sit 176 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: on the side because my big ass head would have 177 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: fit into that kill You could have been the next 178 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Mark Messier done. That helmet issue was a monster issue. 179 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: I needed a different helmet and I never actually even 180 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: got it, and my ice hockey career didn't last fair. 181 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: I think it lasted about three weeks. So yeah, man, 182 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: we've all we've all got those memories, Clay. I just 183 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: have never heard of anybody being you know, they always 184 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: say like anybody can get better. I've never heard of 185 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: a chorus teacher. Mister Scandrick, God rest his soul. At 186 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Magnet in Nashville, there's a lot of 187 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: witnesses stopped right in front. You could just see his eyes. 188 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: He was so disappointed Buck that the choral group in 189 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: the bases when he was standing in front of him 190 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: were not in unison singing well. But I did do 191 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: a really good job announcing all those songs that year. 192 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: So we all have our benefits, we all have our talents. 193 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, I'm telling you, the lit guys 194 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: are super excited and we will do an event. I 195 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: don't know when it will be good, but at some 196 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: point we gotta we gotta get them to show up 197 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: and do live, live stuff for us in Nashville. We're 198 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: talking about, you know what we could do. I need 199 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: to get them on I need to text them and 200 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: see what their schedule looks like around the mid terms 201 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: because we're doing our event in Nashville to celebrate what 202 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: should be a red tide for the midterms. Need to 203 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: get the guys to show up and sing my own 204 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: worst enemy for us at that event. That would be 205 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: pretty badass. I need to see what their schedule is, 206 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: see what I am feeling better and better because we 207 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: we'd like to give you. We gotta tell you what's 208 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: going on and what the challenges are in the country. 209 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: And look the Biden administrations in charts. There's a lot 210 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: of stuff that's messed up right now, There's no question 211 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: about it. But we are planning a midterm election party, 212 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: not a call in you know, oh this state that 213 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna let other people do that. They can sit 214 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: there at the decision desk or whatever, and they can 215 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: make their calls. We're gonna be rocking out and maybe 216 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: really rocking out, because it is looking like it will 217 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: at least be a restoration of sanity in the November election. 218 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves, 219 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: but it's looking pretty good right now, and so if 220 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: we could have Lit play there, I mean, honestly, I 221 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,479 Speaker 1: don't know if there is a band that can transport 222 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: you to the late nineties faster with a song. I mean, 223 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: they're right, you know, you're right up there. It's iconic 224 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: in the way that like Bittersweet Symphony and some of 225 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: those other great songs. We'll play it for you. If 226 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: it's not already hute up. I hope it is. We'll 227 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: see if we can play it for you coming out 228 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: of the next break as we come in for the 229 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: next segment. If you guys haven't yet heard or not 230 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: exactly sure of what that song sounds like, it's the 231 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: choral right that you will hear as we start each 232 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: of the hours going forward, I believe on Monday. So 233 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know where it was 234 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: coming from why it was happening the background there. And 235 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: we continue to thank you guys for supporting the show 236 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: as we continue to grow and continue to fight the 237 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: battles that Rush would be fighting himself if he were 238 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: still with us today. Welcome back everybody to play and 239 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: Buck loved the movie Top Gun, Maverick, as you will know, 240 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: and we said, you know, we should get somebody who 241 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: actually know something. There was a whole heck of a 242 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: lot about flying. Joining us now is Joe Flatley. He 243 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: was a real life Top Gun fighter pilot instructor. He's 244 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: a third generation naval aviator, retired Navy FA eighteen Strike 245 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: and Fighter pilot and F five adversary pilot. Joe, thanks 246 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: for calling into Clay and back. We appreciate it. Oh yeah, 247 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. Thanks. So what was you 248 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: actually were the guy or among the guys I should say, 249 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: training folks in Top Gun. What was some of the 250 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: best stuff that you saw in the movie, I mean 251 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: in terms of the flying, the way they depicted the program. 252 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: We just want to know what did you think? Yeah, Well, 253 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: it was a good movie. It was a great, great 254 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: sequel to the first one, which came out when when 255 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: I was just going through advanced jet training, so just 256 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: about to finish up pilot training and getting ready to 257 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: go off to fly F eighteen. So yeah, it was 258 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: the first movie was and this was a great sequel, 259 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: and and the flying scenes in this I thought were 260 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: much better. Um, yes, it was kind of hard to 261 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: tell actually how much CGI was going on there. Obviously 262 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: some of the flying scenes well not obviously probably to 263 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: the labor person, but you know, the airplanes, the proximity 264 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: they had in the movie, they air planes to each 265 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: other they were fighting, Probably not that realistic, but for 266 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: cinemagraphic reasons, that's that's the way you have to present it. 267 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: But still very very well done. I thought kind often 268 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: hard to tell what the CGI was in there, except 269 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: maybe in a couple of instances. So if there was something, 270 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure there was. So Joe. When nineteen eighty six, 271 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: when the original Top Gun came on on, I believe 272 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: the overall naval recruiting for went up like five hundred percent. 273 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: For people who have forgotten what an unbelievable hit that 274 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: movie was back in nineteen eighty six, as a guy 275 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: who was training as a Top Gun pilot, back in 276 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six, What was it like for that movie 277 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: V two come out? And did everybody think you were 278 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: lying when you were out at the bars and you 279 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: would say, Hey, you know, I'm actually a top gun 280 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: fighter pilot. Because I imagine that became a pretty popular 281 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: line for guys to be dropping all over the place. Yeah, 282 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: I think you know, it gave us all sund be 283 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: full of ourselves about not that we weren't all ready 284 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: but um, but yeah, it was the timing was good 285 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: for a guy like me. And then then and like 286 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: you said, recruiting boom and m and that lasted a while. 287 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: And it's funny. After that, I got to go to 288 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: the premiere out in San Diego and it was it 289 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: was all Navy, some civilians. We're out there, but basically 290 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: they ran the premiere for the Navy people that put 291 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: it on. And one of the discussions afterwards was was 292 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: that this was probably gonna be another boost for for 293 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: naval aviation, with the comment being that that you know, 294 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: this war that we're we're now pretty much out of, 295 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: um the beginning or all through actually fairly good recruiting 296 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: for special ops, whether or you know, share service. It 297 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: was and that I don't know that naval aviation has suffered, 298 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: but I think they're right for another recruiting boom. Now 299 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: with this movie, Joe, what do you tell us about 300 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: the selection process into Top Gun? I mean, since you 301 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: were a top Gun instructor, obviously you had a number 302 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: of people coming through in those classes. How does one 303 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean for some of them. We probably have some 304 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: people listening right now. By the way, we have a 305 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: huge military audience, both active and former military, current and 306 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: former military, so we might have somebody who's you know, 307 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen listening goes you know, I want to go 308 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: into a top gun program. How does that work? Well? 309 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: Just to clarify, it was a top Gun trained adversary pilot. 310 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: Then they run course and I don't know what the 311 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: latest is on timing wise, but back in my day 312 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: it was a ten week course and then I went 313 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: through the first five weeks as an adversary pilot. Then 314 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: I was qualified to go out and teach as an 315 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: adversary on the adversary. So adversary being we're the bad guys. 316 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: We drew out and simulate enemy forces is whether Russian 317 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: or or whatever, tactics and and we were right now 318 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: like Merlin in the original movie, right, isn't that there? 319 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: There you go? Perfect? Yeah, that was exactly. It's flying 320 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: the F five, which which was which the bad guys 321 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: are flying in the first movie, so which is still 322 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: being flown as an adversary today. But um, so that's 323 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: what I did. But yeah, to get there, you know, 324 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: obviously it's the cream of the crop and the top 325 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: gun instructors themselves or next level. You know, probably a 326 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: terrible comparison, but it would be like you know, a 327 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: doctor specialist versus positions assistant the family practice, you know, 328 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: terrible comparison, but the top gun instructor versus an instructor 329 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: like myself. But to get there, you know, selection you've 330 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: got to do well. You've got to be um basically 331 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: recommended for that job, and then you got to get 332 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: through it. And that's a pretty arduous, arduous program those 333 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: guys go through just to teach the classes that they 334 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: teach from the top gun program. Joe Flatley, everybody, mister Flatley, 335 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: thank you very much, sir for calling into Clay and Buck. 336 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Hey, thanks for having me that that 337 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: you beer, Thanks so much. Third Generation Fighter pilot. That's 338 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: pretty badass. Buck, that's as badass as it gets. Yeah, 339 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's crazy to think about, right, Your grandfather 340 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: fought against the Japanese and the Pacific and then all 341 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: the way up through the movies today and everything else. 342 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's your grandfather was in the Navy, but 343 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: he was on the USS Batan, so he was at 344 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: lat Gulf. Didn't talk about it very much until later on. 345 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: Then he would talk about it occasionally. Second hour of 346 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show starts now. Thanks 347 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: everybody for joining or for hanging with us. If you're 348 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: with us in the first hour, remember the Clay and 349 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: Buck podcast a great place to catch up if you 350 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: missed any part of what we're talking about here. Clay 351 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: and Buck dot com also for transcripts and all the rest. 352 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: But if you go to the Clay Traps and Buck 353 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 1: Sexton Show on the iheartapp great thing to do a 354 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: bit of general advice, and it is whenever you see 355 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: that there is a show with a ninety plus percent 356 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: audience score and sub fifty on the critics, it's a 357 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: show you want to see because it means that everyone 358 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: loves it. But the critics hated for some reason that 359 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with whether or not it's entertaining, 360 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: and an example of this would be Clay. Have you 361 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: seen The Terminal List yet? I've heard it's great. No, 362 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: I have not. Have you watched it? I have watched 363 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: every episode of The Terminal List. Jack Carr is a friend. 364 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: I've known Jack for a few years. So explain, Explain 365 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: this show, because I bet there's a lot of our 366 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: audience that would like it. Explain this show for people 367 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: like me who know it exists but have no concept 368 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: of what it's about. So it's a The main character 369 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: is played by Chris Pratt, is a Navy seal named 370 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: James Reese who comes home after some special operations abroad. 371 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: They're ambush. I don't want to give much away, but 372 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: there's a sinister plot that goes to the heart of 373 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: the military industrial complex, and basically Chris Pratt is running 374 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: around taken out bad guys. Lots of the tactical sequences 375 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: are very well done. They bring in seals and people 376 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: with similar expertise so that the actual gun battles and 377 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: everything look really cool. I mean, they do a good 378 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: job with that. As entertainment but they they hate it 379 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: because there's there's no wokeness. Okay, there's no there's no 380 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: social it's in that way. It's like Top Gun Maverick, 381 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: which has been in theaters for some odd seventy some 382 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: odd days and is now the most successful paramount movie 383 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: of all time. It passed Titanic, that's how successful it is. 384 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: But I mean, even that movie Clay, just to be fair, 385 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: who's the bad guy. It's like a make believe country 386 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: in Eastern Europe or something. I mean, you know, they work. 387 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Look they're going for the global market. I get it. 388 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: And apparently we don't make movie anymore. We're fighting other countries. 389 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: It wasn't woked. Even in the original Top Gus, we 390 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: didn't know who the bad guy was. It was, I 391 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: mean everyone, it was the Soviet Union right with the 392 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: red star on the helmets. But um yeah, I'm just 393 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: saying it's it wasn't woke. But it wasn't like, it 394 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: wasn't Team America World Police either, you know what I mean. 395 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't going too hard with the stars 396 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: and stripes, uh and the and the flag. But okay, 397 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: but so so Rotten Tomatoes ninety four percent audience score 398 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: for this. Um, it's a good show because one thing 399 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: that Carrie and I have been struggling with is we're 400 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: trying to find a show to watch that we can 401 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: both enjoy together, and it's you watch, you watch stuff 402 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: and you go, am, I is everything just green lit 403 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: by the editorial team and MSNBC. Now, I mean, it's 404 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: all so, it's such trash. It's so and ten years ago, 405 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: I feel like Netflix and HBO there was this golden 406 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: age where they were just making amazing program They're just 407 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: making great series. Uh you know, whether Breaking Bad and 408 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones and Narcos and you know, they're making 409 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: all these great shows. Now, of course, the corporations that 410 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: are behind all this or oh we want to be 411 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: progressive and social justice and their show suck, which is 412 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: not surprising. But I will say in fairness, we did 413 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: find one show that I A one movie I should 414 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: say that I would recommend to everybody. I made Carrie 415 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: watch this movie The Outfit a couple of weeks ago 416 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: that wasn't really worth That was okay. It was like 417 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: a B minus, wasn't woke, but just wasn't really that good. 418 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: It was okay, but we watched this thirteen lives. Have 419 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: you seen this? Are you familiar with this one? It's 420 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: about the Tie Youth boys. Yeah, I was fascinated by 421 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: that story. For everybody out there. This was the soccer 422 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: team that got caught in the cave and they flooded 423 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: and they weren't able to get out. How is the 424 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: Ron Howard made this one right? The movie is excellent, Yeah, 425 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: highly highly watchable, really moves along. And the way they 426 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: film this that they originally as I read a little 427 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: bit about Excel, I was curious they were actually trying 428 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: to film a lot of it in the caves, but 429 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: they weren't able to do that for reasons I don't 430 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: even know now, So they moved that I think to 431 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: Queensland in North Australia because the obviously the actual cave 432 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: is in Thailand. But it's amazing. I'll say this, there 433 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: are a few things in the world that I would 434 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: find more terrifying than having to spend six hours underwater 435 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: five and a half six hours underwater in a cave 436 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: with fast moving currents where at some points the cave 437 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: is about shoulder width, so you've got darkness, claustrophobia, the 438 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: imminent prospect of death when you if you run out 439 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: of oxygen, or if you just you know, hit your head, 440 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: and I mean there's any number. It is really well done. 441 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: I've I've been trying to tell folks about it. I 442 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: remember that story. The story is even more in any 443 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: ways unbelievable and in the in the end inspiring that 444 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: I remembered it from the news reports. It's crazy what 445 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: they did to get I mean, not crazy as I 446 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: mean they should have done anything, but I mean what 447 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: they managed to pull off with those kids to get them. 448 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to give it all away. Is I 449 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: think everybody knows the kids Yeah that's a true story, 450 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: because it's a true story. But but yeah, that story 451 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: was captivating to follow and such an ennobling story because 452 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: every day you thought, oh, they're going to find the 453 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: kids and they're not going to be alive. That was 454 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: sort of the subtext of this is a flooded cave. 455 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: There's no way these kids are going to have survived 456 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: for this long. And when they finally found them, then it's, oh, 457 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: my goodness, how in the world are we ever going 458 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: to get them out of here? And they managed to 459 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: do it. Speaking of the Terminal List. I was there's 460 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: an article up at OutKick one of our good writers 461 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: that we hired recently, David Hookstead. If you haven't already, 462 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: we had an incredible month. But OutKick is kind of 463 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: like Mona from Heaven. If you're a sports fan or 464 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: just a fan of pop culture and you think everything 465 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: has gone woke, they've got we've got a good article 466 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: about it. If that went up today about the Terminal List, 467 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: one point six billion minutes of viewership on Netflix only 468 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: show was the most recent show, Stranger Thing season four 469 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: is the only show that's beaten it in terms of popularity. 470 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: So I'll just point this out. Culture is important in 471 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: terms of what it's saying about what society is interested 472 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: in right now. Yellowstone is by far the most popular 473 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: show on television other than Sports. Doesn't get nominated for 474 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: any Emmy's wildly popular Terminal List, evidently on Netflix, insanely popular, 475 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: Top Gun, Maverick. What do all three of those movies 476 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: and or shows have in common? Relatively limited woke material 477 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: and or USA USA USA, right, That is what they 478 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: are overall selling is United States excellent, and I think 479 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: there's a huge demand for that. You can tell very 480 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: quickly in a lot of these shows. I mean, to 481 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: this point, Clay, I could even take a I think 482 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: there's a step even before that, when you're talking about 483 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: is the manifestation of or the way that the show 484 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: actually tells the story? Right? Is that it folcus in 485 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: on those things. I think it really also comes down 486 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: to when they're sitting in the writer's room, is the 487 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: most important thing that they want to intain, entertain and 488 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: engage the audience or is it that they want to 489 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: get a pat on the back for the agenda and 490 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: the messaging behind this, because I think you see a 491 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: lot of shows where they start with a premise which is, oh, 492 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: let's make this about you know, let's make this about 493 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: some left wing, woke agenda item instead of is this 494 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: going to be a good story? Is this going to 495 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: really bring people in? And you know, you brought up 496 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: what was the huge show that everyone's oh my gosh, 497 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: why is it such a success? Similar numbers I think 498 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: to Yellowstone from years ago was The Walking Dead? Right? 499 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: And The Walking Dead's a show where you take a 500 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: graphic novel and you're just trying to make the most 501 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: engaging entertainment possible. There's some broader lessons about parenting and 502 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, survival and other things in their right. But 503 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: overall you're not getting a political lecture. You know, with 504 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: The Walking Dead, you're just watching something that's meant to 505 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: entertain you. Whenever they do that, their success when they're 506 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: giving you a lecture about walk politics. People. Increasingly you're saying, 507 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: I just don't want to watch this. Yep, And I'll 508 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: give you. I know, we got people who listen in Hollywood, 509 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: We've got a big audience in la I'll continue to 510 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: give this out. If you want to look like a 511 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: genius and you want to have the number one streaming 512 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: show or the number one television show, the number one 513 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: show in America, turn on Daunted Courage by Steven Ambrose, 514 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: a phenomenal book about the Lewis and Clark expedition. Turn 515 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: it into a mini series, into a I believe it 516 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: would be a television event the likes of which we 517 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: have not seen twenty years. Right in terms of a 518 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: historical connection to America pro America, Now you can say 519 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones was a television event. I love that show. Yeah, 520 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: it's a fantastical show about you know, about dragons, and 521 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: medieval times. Effectively, I'm talking about something that is rooted 522 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: in American history, that is unabashedly patriotic, that tells a 523 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: triumphal story of an overwhelming difficult and success. I'm sorry, 524 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: Clay to get this made. The Meriwether Lewis is going 525 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: to have to be a gender fluid pan sexual and 526 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: William William Clark is going to have to go around 527 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: begging forgiveness from the Native peoples for the future disrespect 528 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: and betrayal of the colonists. Even otherwise, we can't make 529 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: that show. Politics is downstream of culture, which is a 530 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: great quote from Andrew Brypart, and I do think it's 531 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: true if you're out there and you're looking at what 532 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: the political message is coming through the cultural success stories 533 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: out there, whether it's Terminal Lists, whether it's Yellowstone, whether 534 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: it is Certainly, as you break it down, how much 535 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: demand there has been for Top Gun Maverick, the most 536 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: successful movie of all time from Tom Cruise's history, it's 537 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: because people want pro America, anti woke programming, and there 538 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: isn't enough of it. Did you see I know you're 539 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: on vacation and you're having a great time with the 540 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: fan which was very important. You've come back rested in 541 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: the fight. But did you happen to catch because I 542 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: see you sneaking on to Twitter a little bit when 543 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: you're on vacation. I was, I still have to manage 544 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: out Kick. Yeah, I didn't do TV, I didn't do radio, 545 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: but I'm still managing our stories at out So you 546 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: probably saw that they had a ninety million dollar right 547 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: off with a completed filmagirl. I mean, how now the 548 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: thing is, I want to see that movie so badly 549 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: because they wrote down when they took over, they three 550 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars CNN plus they said this is an 551 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: unmitigated disaster. It's done, and now ninety million dollars Batgirl. 552 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: And you know how popular superhero movies are, you could 553 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: basically get one hundred million dollars. I would think just 554 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: by advertising a lot to get people to come watch. 555 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: I screenwriter or a producer making a superhero movie and 556 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: you lose basically one hundred million dollars on it, you 557 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: really should learn to code, like you should find another 558 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: profession you should would be equivalent to. It's a great point. 559 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: You're making a superhero movie. The studios are all behind it. 560 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: You almost cannot fail because there's such demand for superhero movies. 561 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: And they watched your superhero movie and they said it 562 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: was so bad, we're just going to take a ninety 563 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: million dollar right off. They didn't even put it on 564 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: the streaming service. That's one thing if they say, hey, 565 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: this is not worthy of going to the movie theaters. 566 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: They said it's so bad that they don't even want 567 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: their brand associated with it. In other fields, I'm not 568 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: even sure I can think of an equivalent. I could 569 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: just I could just see this though, like like a 570 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: Batgirl movie where Batgirl swoops in the bank robbers and 571 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, look at this. Look at this Broad. 572 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: We're in a costume. She's like, excuse me, sir, Broad, 573 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: are you assuming my pronouns? Like you could actually do 574 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: a great send up of this thing. I mean you 575 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: could do a great Uh. There's a little bit of 576 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: send up of the overall culture that goes on in Deadpool, 577 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: which has been very popular as as a movie. But buck, 578 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: think about all the people that are cast in this movie. 579 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: They're saying, Hey, this is gonna be career altering for you. 580 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: You can't go wrong. You get into a superhero movie, 581 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: or the next Robert Downey Junior. I can completely do 582 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: the pitch that they would have been getting in their 583 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: Hollywood talent agencies, and then they get a call and 584 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: they say, yeah, this movie is so bad that even 585 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: though we spent ninety million dollars, we're basically just going 586 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: to burn it. I guarantee you we we could write 587 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: a better screenplay than whenever that was which in the 588 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: two of us in forty eight hours. Honestly, that's why 589 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: I want to see I feel cold play Travis buck 590 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: Sexton show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 591 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton is now an engaged man. Congratulations, Buck, I 592 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: believe based on the photo that I saw you did 593 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: it from? Is that your apartment building in New York 594 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: City that I have seen amazing view up there? What 595 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: was it like to actually you've never proposed before, Nope, 596 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: you are a forty year old man who has never 597 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: been engaged, never married. What was the experience like and 598 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: how quickly has the wedding apparatus shifted into full speed? 599 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you, when I got engaged many years ago, 600 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: the thing that most stunned me about it was how 601 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: much knowledge women all carry in their head about weddings 602 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: that I had never given a thought to. How quickly 603 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: that process was underway soon after I got engaged. Give 604 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: you a couple of things, and then I promised, we'll 605 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: talk about the news for everybody. People are good, people 606 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: want to hear about this, Yes, they do. So. Uh. 607 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: The one thing I will say is pretty pretty funny. 608 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: But she had absolutely no idea. So I had met 609 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: with her dad because I went asked for the hand. 610 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: I went down to Asheville, where her family has a home. Yes, 611 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: and obviously Asheville was a memorable experience for many reasons, 612 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: and I asked for her hand from her father. I 613 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: would do that. By the way, how did you end 614 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: up isoed? Were you asked him to take me to 615 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: see a piece of property that they were thinking about? Smart? Yeah, 616 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: we kind of went the woods, yeah, you know. Yeah, 617 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: and uh, so I asked for the hand and then, uh. 618 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: The plan was to just find a perfect sunset on 619 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: the rooftop when nobody nobody would be up there. Yeah, 620 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: and uh and I you know, I went up there. 621 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: She had no idea. So I went down was Saturday night? 622 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: Is this Saturday after Saturday night? Saturday night. Yeah, it 623 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: was really nice. I actually saw two listeners who were 624 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: visiting New York City from Chicago on our way to 625 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: the restaurant and they're like, hey, Buck, I was like, 626 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: I just got engaged, Like we listened all the times. 627 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: That was great. We had some visitors from I saw 628 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: the picture go out on social media too. You texted 629 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: Ali who also, by the way, we should mention engaged 630 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: like last week too. I know love is in the 631 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: air on the Clay and Buck Show. Yeah, there's producer 632 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: Ali is engaged a couple of weeks ago. I'm engaged now. 633 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: So as for the wedding stuff, I will tell you, man, 634 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: the our basic approach to this and and then we 635 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: have to start trashing Joe Biden. Our basic approach to 636 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: this is, we're gonna try to throw a big, fun 637 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: engagement party at New York City for everybody. You'll be invited, 638 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: the team, you know, We'll just we just want to 639 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: throw a big party in New York and then we're 640 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: gonna have a immediate family and you know, best man, 641 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: best what do you not best one? What do you 642 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: call it? And brought made of honor or whatever. Yeah, 643 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: but like just very small ut at a church suoner 644 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: rather than later, Like what's the time frame, like get 645 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: in the next six months, which is the next six months? 646 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, because this is my understanding, and I'm sure 647 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there listening know this. This 648 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: is the busiest year for weddings on record. I believe. 649 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: I actually was down when I was at Rosemary Beach 650 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: one of the times Buck I was working out in 651 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: the gym and the guy next to me was a 652 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: big fan and he owned wedding venues all over the country, 653 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: West Coast primarily, and he was talking so, I know, 654 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: working out there in the in the gym, I was 655 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: designed him for fifteen or twenty minutes on the machine 656 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: and uh, and he was talking about how busy all 657 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: of it is every day of the week. Basically, people 658 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: are getting married now because so many people couldn't in 659 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty twenty one because of COVID, and twenty 660 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: twenty two is supposedly the biggest wedding year ever. So 661 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: this is this is stressing me out a little bit. Now, Yeah, 662 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'll figure all this stuff out, but yeah, 663 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: we canna get married, so there we go. So let's go, Well, congratulations. 664 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: The pictures are up on social media. They should be 665 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: up on Clay and buck dot com if they're not already. 666 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: If you want to go see Buck proposing to the 667 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: Lovely Carry and Carry as a producer at Fox News 668 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: for anyone who's wondering. So that's how Carrie and I 669 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the connection, that's how we know each other, 670 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: and that's how it all got going. That's awesome. Well, 671 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: and her dad is a third generation fighter pilot. So 672 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: you thought you were kind of a badass because you're 673 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: a CIA analyst formerly, and good to be humbled in 674 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,479 Speaker 1: law is way bigger of a badass, let's be honest. 675 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: Good to be humbled. So