WEBVTT - The Awakening

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking down eighteen Street by six a past the

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<v Speaker 1>Metro pavilion, and I see this line outside and I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you guys doing? And they're saying, um, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to the chocolate show. I was like the chocolate show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Mark Christian, chocolate historian, critic, and philosopher. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get a pH d or anything like that. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I had earned a c h d. Chocolate Doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor of Chocolate without a doubt, without a doubt. Dr

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate is such a legend that a rave review from

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<v Speaker 1>him can propel a new bar to fame and fortune.

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<v Speaker 1>But back in the early few thousands, gourmet chocolate wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>on his radar. I get in there and I'm walking around.

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<v Speaker 1>I instantly I caught on that, you know what, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the same crowd as in Amsterdam the Cannabis. The

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<v Speaker 1>room was vibing almost the same, and they were such

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<v Speaker 1>a captive, passionate group. At the time, Mark was managing

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<v Speaker 1>events around the world, including the Cannabis Cup. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a non user, but my business partner is more than

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<v Speaker 1>a user. He's waking, bake and you know, and shake

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<v Speaker 1>the flake all day long, and as he poked around,

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<v Speaker 1>his Spidey sense told him that maybe he found the

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<v Speaker 1>next big recreational substance. I had an encounter with a

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman named Alessio Testier. He with his sister owned a

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<v Speaker 1>company called Ama Day. And this guy was speaking in

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<v Speaker 1>such you know, classic high falutint terms of this legacy

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<v Speaker 1>and lore of chocolate. And he's dressed in this Armandi

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<v Speaker 1>suit that's just you know, cut to the max. And

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<v Speaker 1>right away might BS detector went off, you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's sort of like, don't bullshit the bullshitter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? But he said no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't understand. He's telling me about how he has

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<v Speaker 1>this exclusive deal with this place called chew Wow, the

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<v Speaker 1>women who was primarily a woman led cooperative. They would

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<v Speaker 1>sun and dry the beans on the plaza of the church,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every season, and son there only seven acres.

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<v Speaker 1>And he went on and on and on and on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just saying, come on, chocolate is what's

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween candy? What are you talking about? So Alessio gave

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<v Speaker 1>markat Chuil Bar to try. It was massive. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Chewa is heavy on the bell. It's big. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>blueberry pie of chocolate. It's got massive blueberry appeal. Chua

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<v Speaker 1>was considered the greatest chocolate on earth at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and Alessio Tessiery had stolen it. He had tiptoed into

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<v Speaker 1>the den of Valona, the French kingpin of gourmet chocolate,

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<v Speaker 1>which once held exclusive control over the supply, and pride

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<v Speaker 1>it right out of their hands. Alessia was the bad

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<v Speaker 1>boy of chocolate, the Alfante rib the young Italian who

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<v Speaker 1>refused to play by the French rules, and he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>bullshitting the bullshitter. There really was only a tiny supply

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<v Speaker 1>of Chiuao beans coming from a single isolated valley on

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<v Speaker 1>the mountainous Venezuela coast, and it really was dried by

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<v Speaker 1>a hand by the women of Chuao on the town's

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<v Speaker 1>church plaza. And those three factors, the beans, the place,

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<v Speaker 1>and the care they set it apart. For years, Valarona

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<v Speaker 1>had enjoyed a lock on Chuao and on the world,

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<v Speaker 1>especially chocolate. It was the most famous company and Chuaw

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<v Speaker 1>was its most coveted bar. But it never paid that

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<v Speaker 1>much of a premium to the Chuow Cooperative for those beans,

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<v Speaker 1>because back then nobody paid more for beans just because

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<v Speaker 1>they tasted good. Cocat wasn't wine. It was treated more

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<v Speaker 1>like corn, a commodity, but changed the day Alessia Tessieri

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<v Speaker 1>stole you all away. What Alessio understood was that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a world of people who thought of chocolate like wine,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were willing to pay a lot for a

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<v Speaker 1>great experience, and that meant great cacaws like Chuaw were

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<v Speaker 1>worth way more than any of the chocolate companies realized.

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<v Speaker 1>And as everyone else in the chocolate business figured that out,

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<v Speaker 1>all eyes fell in Latin America, Cocao's birthplace. If there

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<v Speaker 1>were more choos out there, villages harboring beautiful old varieties

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<v Speaker 1>from cocao's pre industrial golden era, that's where they'd be.

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<v Speaker 1>The great cacao gold Rush was on. It was almost

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<v Speaker 1>a search of gold, but actually hit the cacaw is

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<v Speaker 1>the gold, and eventually it was going to lead to

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<v Speaker 1>right from Volka Lehman's Olivian doorstack and make him wonder

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<v Speaker 1>why he ever got sucked in in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I think all all days for Damn bar On.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking from Glidys Delvin i Heeart podcasts, this is obsessions

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<v Speaker 1>wild Chocolate. I'm Roman Jacobson, Chapter three, The Awakening. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that sabled place called chu Wow Wow che

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<v Speaker 1>Wow che wowca cow chocolate wow Wow. It's quite musical.

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<v Speaker 1>People elevated, levitated, as you know, the Vatican of Chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chuow Holy War began in when Alessio Tessiery and

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<v Speaker 1>his sister Cecilia launched their chocolate company am A Day

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<v Speaker 1>Ahma Day was this upstart out of Italy, a brother

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<v Speaker 1>and sister team, kind of like you know Phineas and

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Hilish right. Like most of all chocolate tiers, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't make its own chocolate. Instead, it bought

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<v Speaker 1>product from one of the handful of giant companies that

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<v Speaker 1>made chocola from beans. That practice is still common. Amini

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be a very high end chocolate tier, and

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<v Speaker 1>that meant they needed a supply of top notch chocolate,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the nine nineties, that meant doing something no

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<v Speaker 1>Italian ever wants to do. They needed to suck up

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<v Speaker 1>to France. French chocolate making goes back quite a ways,

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<v Speaker 1>and like everything of French couture, they regarded themselves at

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<v Speaker 1>the highest pinnacle in this case, there's no question where

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<v Speaker 1>the particular sucking up needed to take place. They go

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<v Speaker 1>to tan Lemitage, which is south of Leone in France,

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<v Speaker 1>to the house of val Roona. Bell Rona had the

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<v Speaker 1>best supply of Grand Crew level chocolate in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Val Rona had this la la reputation back then and

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<v Speaker 1>even still today. It's highly renowned, highly regarded. Very new

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate maker who wanted to enter the upper echelon had

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<v Speaker 1>to make the pilgrimage to detain hermitage and prostrate themselves

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<v Speaker 1>before the lords of chocolate. And that's what Alessie Cecilia did,

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<v Speaker 1>after waiting months for an appointment. The story goes, these

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<v Speaker 1>young Italians show up and the French snub them, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a national trait, you know, with all

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<v Speaker 1>apologies to the French people in the world. Uh, they said, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're too below our standard. We can't deal

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Sent away empty handed, you know, come back

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<v Speaker 1>when you've reached a sufficient level of cultural enlightenment. They

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<v Speaker 1>were feeling, as I said, snubbed. They went back to Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with their tails between their legs and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like hm, hmmm, we'll remember that. Not only did

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<v Speaker 1>they remember it, they devoted their lives to avenging the insult,

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<v Speaker 1>which basically what was kind of a declaration of war

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<v Speaker 1>as some people saw it. And you know what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when France and Italy clash. Let me think about you

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<v Speaker 1>got products and Hermes, you've got our money and Louis Vattan.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a rivalry. So Alessio and Cecilia came up

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<v Speaker 1>with a new business plan. Cecilia would learn to make

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate from the beans, and Alessia would figure out where

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<v Speaker 1>to get the good stuff. Alessia spent the hustling. He

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<v Speaker 1>traversed Latin America, meeting with farmers, tasting beans, doing everything

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<v Speaker 1>he could to make himself the ultimate insider, and that

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<v Speaker 1>work paid off. By the two thousands, Amaday was making

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most coveted single rigs and chocolate bars

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. But Alessio had just begun and he

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<v Speaker 1>was dead set on securing the most prized beans of all,

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<v Speaker 1>chew wow. He worked at it for years, slowly earning

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<v Speaker 1>trust on the ground, building relationships, buying new uniforms for

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball team. They do whatever, pretty much it takes

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak. Not only were they bearing gifts, but

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<v Speaker 1>they all pledged to pay in advance. That's pretty good. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>it came down to cold, hard cash. Amada offered to

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<v Speaker 1>triple the price of Varona was paying, and to pay

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<v Speaker 1>up front, and it worked. In two thousand four, the

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<v Speaker 1>coup was complete. The Chewaw Cooperative sent registered letters to

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<v Speaker 1>Valona and other chocolate makers. All of its beans will

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<v Speaker 1>be going to Amidae, and only Amada had the right

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<v Speaker 1>to use its name. For years, rumors have persisted that

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<v Speaker 1>this war got really nasty. We've heard all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>things that, you know, somebody got shot from Valona over this,

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<v Speaker 1>and not exactly What did happen was that in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand two, the director of Venezuela's coco buying network was

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<v Speaker 1>machine gunned in his car. There's no evidence it was

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<v Speaker 1>related to the battle for chihuah but Venezuela, along with

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<v Speaker 1>many other parts of Latin America, has come to lead

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<v Speaker 1>the world in violent crime and business. Even the chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>business can get caught up in it. The real lesson

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<v Speaker 1>of Chuao is that same companies were willing to go

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<v Speaker 1>to ridiculous lengths in an incredibly dangerous region. Simply to

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<v Speaker 1>tie up beans with great flavor because they knew that

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<v Speaker 1>flavor could set them apart. But why was that what

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<v Speaker 1>made those Chuao beings so special? Well, it certainly has

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<v Speaker 1>something to do with the valley, the rivers, the soil,

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<v Speaker 1>the trees themselves, But the real secret to Chua's greatness

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<v Speaker 1>it was those women handling the beans on the church plasma.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you've already figured it out. It all came down

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<v Speaker 1>to fermentation. How big a factor is the fermentation? Like

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<v Speaker 1>huge fermentation, man is definitely of the quality of the

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<v Speaker 1>final chocolate. Fermentation is critical. Okay, I know that word

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<v Speaker 1>has already popped up a few times, but believe it

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<v Speaker 1>or not, a lot of our story hinges on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to hear it again. Fermentation, fermentation, fermentation,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, what the hell is fermentation? This is the

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<v Speaker 1>first step the careful process of making the world's most

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<v Speaker 1>popular flavor. Just like grapes don't taste like wine, rock

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<v Speaker 1>at cow beans don't taste much like chocolate. You need

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<v Speaker 1>microbes to consume the raw material and transform it into

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<v Speaker 1>those wonderfully aromatic compounds. To cow seeds come out of

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<v Speaker 1>their pods covered in sweet sticky sugary pulp. When the

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<v Speaker 1>beans are removed from the pods, the sugary pulp surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>the bean begins to ferment. To keep up those beans

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<v Speaker 1>in a pile or put them in a wooden box,

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<v Speaker 1>wild geese in the environment will turn that sugar into alcohol,

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<v Speaker 1>and then bacteria will turn the alcohol into vinegar. The

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<v Speaker 1>acid breaks open the cells and the beans, spills the

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<v Speaker 1>contents together and initiates a lot of crazy chemistry. In

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<v Speaker 1>the process, heat is generated, and the overall effect of

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<v Speaker 1>this mild natural treatment is the development of a desirable

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<v Speaker 1>brown color of fine, full flavor. Within days, nutty, spicy, winey, fruity,

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<v Speaker 1>and laural notes appear from there. You just have to

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<v Speaker 1>get the beans nice and dried, give them a little

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<v Speaker 1>roast than a slow grind, and you've got chocolate because

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<v Speaker 1>of the ter war, because of how it's fermented, the

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<v Speaker 1>things in the air, the yeasts and the bacteria that

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<v Speaker 1>are contributing to fermentation, and the soil and all these

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<v Speaker 1>things you know you hear about in wine. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to taste the same thing with chocolate. But fermentation is

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<v Speaker 1>a delicate art. You mess up the fermentation process, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't do the turns on time. You can get absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting coco out of great raw material. And what does

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<v Speaker 1>that taste like. It's more like mushroom rotten socks, or

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<v Speaker 1>ham chocolate or cheese chocolate. You get some really nasty flavors,

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<v Speaker 1>wet sock chocolate, compost chocolate. Most coco farmers just want

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<v Speaker 1>to get their being sold as quickly as possible, so

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<v Speaker 1>they don't take the time to do a proper fermentation.

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<v Speaker 1>Those beans will always be bitter and boring. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>the right decision for the farmers. Remember this is a

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<v Speaker 1>dirt poor commodity. Time is money. Why go to extra

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<v Speaker 1>steps to improve flavor if you aren't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>paid anything extra. But Chua was different. When the chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>from Chiuao developed, his great reputation in the fermentation was

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<v Speaker 1>practically a lost art. The women of Chuah were one

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<v Speaker 1>of the few groups doing it properly, and it showed.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the two thousands, demand for great cacao was surging.

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<v Speaker 1>A new wave of upstarts like Amada was cutting out

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<v Speaker 1>the middlemen, scouring the Americas for the next Chua, making

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<v Speaker 1>their own chocolate from the beans and raising the art

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<v Speaker 1>of chocolate to new heights, and although that first wave

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<v Speaker 1>was European, it stayed small until it reached the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the Atlantic. There it found an eager market

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with quality and authenticity, and it became a full

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<v Speaker 1>blown tsunami. But have them tastes like grocery store chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>at first. Then I'd have them taste three bars that

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<v Speaker 1>tasted like people would be like, yep, we're in we

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<v Speaker 1>love it. We had fifty bars, we went to a hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a couple of years later we probably had

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred, and then you come full circle to today.

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<v Speaker 1>We have probably five fifty bars on the shelf. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't counted in a long time modeling. Every gold rush

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<v Speaker 1>brings winners and losers, and the craft chocolate revolution was

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<v Speaker 1>no difference. A lot of dinosaurs fell by the wayside,

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<v Speaker 1>too slow to react to the shift and taste, and

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<v Speaker 1>a few nimble players rushed in to fill the gap.

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<v Speaker 1>Most surprising of all was a small Delhi in Salt

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<v Speaker 1>Lake City that came out of nowhere to become the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate champion of wild chocolate. A Cinderella story. After the break,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to taste of some of this God level chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>We Got You Covered. Kalia Scop has joined forces with

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<v Speaker 1>Louise Abram and Stetler Chocolate to make a special box

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<v Speaker 1>to go along with its very podcast Taste One has

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<v Speaker 1>driven many to near madness at www. Dot Stetler dash

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate dot com. In the early two thousands, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Americans were having the kind of epiphany that Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Christian had at the Amide booth at the Chocolate Show,

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<v Speaker 1>including Matt Caputo. I discovered that good chocolate shouldn't just

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<v Speaker 1>taste like burned material deluded with loads of extra fat

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<v Speaker 1>and vanilla. Matt's the owner of Caputo's Market in Delhi

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<v Speaker 1>in Salt Lake City, and today he's the top importer

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<v Speaker 1>especialty chocolate in North America. We now seld over three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand wholesale accounts everyone from Whole Foods to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your mom and pop cheese shop on the corener in

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<v Speaker 1>all fifty states. But back into a thousand, we basically

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<v Speaker 1>had a really similar set to what you'd see in

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery store, just cheap stuff that I found out

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<v Speaker 1>later didn't taste like cacao. One of my friends that

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<v Speaker 1>I respected really well just kind of said you know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>your chocolate set is really embarrassing. Matt was crushed. Capudas

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just a market, It was an extension of his

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<v Speaker 1>own personal tastes, a reflection of his abilities as a curator.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew he had to get up to speed, so

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<v Speaker 1>he embarked on a pilgrimage to the one place where

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<v Speaker 1>he might find enlightenment. The fancy Food Show in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City. I'm walking the aisles of the Italian Pavilion,

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<v Speaker 1>and man, those Italians wear suits so well, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful suits. All these dudes and suits and ladies in suits,

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<v Speaker 1>and so here I am, this punk kid in my

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<v Speaker 1>you know t shirt from Salt Lake City and just

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<v Speaker 1>standing at the counters patiently waiting for someone to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Finally, a woman at one of the booths

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<v Speaker 1>to pity on him and sat him out at a

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<v Speaker 1>table and perform the ritual that has initiated many a

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<v Speaker 1>convert into the mystery cult of fine chocolate. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you taste these three chocolates. They only

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<v Speaker 1>have two ingredients, cocaw beans and sugar. She says, They're

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<v Speaker 1>all made on the same equipment with the same recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>The only difference is where the cocow beans come from.

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<v Speaker 1>She says. This first one that you're going to taste

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<v Speaker 1>is from Ecuador, and you're going to notice that it

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<v Speaker 1>is very earthy and very nutty, and there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of acidity. And so okay. I taste it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking to myself, like, wow, that's really uncanny

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<v Speaker 1>that that does taste like that. Now these beans, she said, again,

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<v Speaker 1>same ingredients, same percentage, produced on the same equipment, but

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<v Speaker 1>this time they come from the Samburano Valley of Madagascar.

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<v Speaker 1>This one will taste like fruit, like tart, raspberries and

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<v Speaker 1>and citrus. And I'm preparing myself for very slight differences.

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<v Speaker 1>I pop it in my mouth. It didn't taste like chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>It tastes like fresh tropical fruit. I could feel myself

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<v Speaker 1>like falling down the rabbit hole, and I knew this

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<v Speaker 1>didn't taste like candy. This tasted like the food of

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<v Speaker 1>the gods. When he headed home, Matt immediately got Capuda's

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<v Speaker 1>up to speed. I spent the next year, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>fleshing out our chocolate set, you know, say, picking the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty best producers that I had read about and again.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a lot of studying along the way, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of talking to experts in the industry, and doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of blind tasting, like truly blind tasting. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife would actually help me. We would do it in

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<v Speaker 1>a pitch black room and taste like sixteen different chocolates

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<v Speaker 1>at a time. The standouts went on the shelf of

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<v Speaker 1>codas brands like on a day DOMI at the time, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>those were the Italian ones, some of the French or

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<v Speaker 1>like Michelle quisel Bo, not Valona. Probably Sharpenburger was the

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<v Speaker 1>only American one at that time. I probably fleshed out

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<v Speaker 1>with about fifty bars, probably from about twenty producers, and

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<v Speaker 1>shelf kept getting bigger, and it probably took up instead

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<v Speaker 1>of two ft let's say, the new bars were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot prizier than the old ones, like ten bucks instead

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<v Speaker 1>of two. But to Matt's amazement, it didn't matter. All

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<v Speaker 1>he had to do was give customers one taste of

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<v Speaker 1>this brave new world, and they were loading up their

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<v Speaker 1>kurt with chocolate. Verst Viva La Revolution. Caputos was just

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<v Speaker 1>one of many stores across the States where that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of transformation was happening. In the mid two thousands, chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>could be an experience, and people were eager to have it,

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<v Speaker 1>to taste their way through Venezuela and Ecuador and the

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<v Speaker 1>Sambrano Valley, and websites like Mark Christians sprung up to

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<v Speaker 1>guide them. And then in the midst of all this

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<v Speaker 1>coco craziness, a new bar appeared. It was wild and refined.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't taste like any of the others, not even close.

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<v Speaker 1>While every other chocolate in the world was made with

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<v Speaker 1>cocao that had been domesticated and adapted to farms, this

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<v Speaker 1>was primordial and you're getting this taste of way back

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<v Speaker 1>when it's a time machine, and so unless you're the

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<v Speaker 1>age of like Methuselah or oldest Diamonds, even though had

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that before, nobody had. The bar had a

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<v Speaker 1>funny name. Instead of the ground Cruise of Valona and Bona,

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<v Speaker 1>this was Cruise Salvage Wild. It's time. It could not

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<v Speaker 1>have been better. It was about to become the buzziest

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<v Speaker 1>bar in the bush and dry Voker Layman even deeper

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<v Speaker 1>into the jungle in surger More the world. Gold raises

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<v Speaker 1>immediately the eyebrow of a person if you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have gold on my land, then everybody feels like

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<v Speaker 1>you're rich. But I know more people who got poor

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<v Speaker 1>than rich looking for gold. They didn't see the real

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<v Speaker 1>gold at for the break a whole hill of beans.

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<v Speaker 1>I never had a business plan then, like so many

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<v Speaker 1>tons and this, and then and then, and the full

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<v Speaker 1>blown business plan I never had. By two thousand five,

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<v Speaker 1>felsh Lean, the Swiss company that was making chocolate with

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<v Speaker 1>Vulcar beans, was so confident in the unique appeal of

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<v Speaker 1>crusavage that it was ready to roll it out at

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<v Speaker 1>full commercial scale. That meant no more cutes the experiments.

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<v Speaker 1>With four kilos, they needed as much as Vulgar could

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<v Speaker 1>possibly get. I said, yeah, okay, let's try with a

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<v Speaker 1>container first, and the shipping container holds fifteen tons of cacao.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the minimum Felshally needed to make the bars.

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<v Speaker 1>But for solo player like Vulcar, that's a huge hill

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<v Speaker 1>of beans. Ran Quila Dad could produce only a few tons.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest he was going to have to buy from

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<v Speaker 1>other harvesters in the region. Once again, he'd be navigating

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<v Speaker 1>land that was precious to some of the most dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>people in the world, ranchers, illegal loggers, and narcas, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to need a ton of cash. He

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<v Speaker 1>was going to have to build facilities in the rainforest

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<v Speaker 1>where the beans could be fermented to his specifications, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to have to spend all that money

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<v Speaker 1>many months before he'd finally get paid for the beans.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest problem getting finance to get like dollars together.

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<v Speaker 1>So he asked specially into front him some dough and

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<v Speaker 1>they were not interested. They've been around for a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years because they didn't let romance cloud their business vision.

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<v Speaker 1>They basically said, you get the beans, will pay you

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<v Speaker 1>a decent price, but the getting part that's on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually he scored alone from a Swiss company that special

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<v Speaker 1>liss and fair trade foods. They're getting me money, but

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<v Speaker 1>just on on my blue eyes. Yeah, and they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we hope you'll come back with kak. You'll know that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How to do that? Well? For starters, he bought himself

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<v Speaker 1>a dirt bike and rode hundreds of miles across the range,

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<v Speaker 1>visiting the towns in the region that had to cow

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<v Speaker 1>and setting up buying posts. It was a rough ride,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was better than the horse. He hired people

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<v Speaker 1>to buy for him in each town and told them

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<v Speaker 1>to use tarts to keep the beans dry. But the

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<v Speaker 1>only types they had were moth eaten ones made from

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<v Speaker 1>cow and jaguar skins, so he flew a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>new ones in from Santa Cruz and handed them out.

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<v Speaker 1>He kept in touch with everyone by short wave radio.

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<v Speaker 1>When the beans were ready, he drove his bike to

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<v Speaker 1>each town, loaded them onto a riverboat, and sent them

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<v Speaker 1>on a two thousand mile journey to Lapaz. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>lout la Pause and rented an old racquetball court to

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<v Speaker 1>use as a warehouse. He didn't sleep for a week

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<v Speaker 1>while he waited for the beans to arrive. Finally they

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<v Speaker 1>showed up. He immediately opened the sacks and not good.

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<v Speaker 1>About ten percent had turned moldy on the river trip,

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<v Speaker 1>so he hired eight people to help him, and they

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<v Speaker 1>spent the next two weeks on the floor of the

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<v Speaker 1>racquetball court sorting eighteen tons of tiny beans by hand.

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<v Speaker 1>When he had fifteen good tons, he packed them into

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<v Speaker 1>a container and trucked it over a fifteen thousand foot

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<v Speaker 1>mountain pass and along some of the world's most death

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<v Speaker 1>defying roads to the sea, where a feeder vessel took

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<v Speaker 1>it to Panama and loaded it onto a giant container ship,

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<v Speaker 1>which carried it through the canal, across the Atlantic and

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<v Speaker 1>into port in Rotterdam, where yet another feeder vessel carried

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<v Speaker 1>it up the Rhine to Switzerland, where at long last

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<v Speaker 1>felshly and transformed it into Cruisavage. It was an enormous feat,

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<v Speaker 1>and soon the pros were getting their hands on their

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<v Speaker 1>first ours. One of them was Matt Capuda. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly sure when I first heard of Cruisivage. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you hear of a bunch of things. You don't at

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<v Speaker 1>first know what is going to turn out to be

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<v Speaker 1>something legitimately super cool, or what's going to turn out

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<v Speaker 1>to be something that's you know, marketing, smoke and mirrors.

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<v Speaker 1>So Matt was skeptical. He tried Felshin's chocolate before and

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<v Speaker 1>never been that impressed, But that was about to change.

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<v Speaker 1>When I popped it into my mouth, I immediately recognized

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<v Speaker 1>that it was vastly more interesting than anything else that

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<v Speaker 1>they made that I had previously traded. You know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about chocolate like music, and this was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a classic symphony orchestra, justist beautiful. Matt wasn't alone.

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<v Speaker 1>The world's alcoholics went gaga for cruisivage, and felsh Lee

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<v Speaker 1>knew it needed more beans, this time thirty tons instead

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<v Speaker 1>of fifteen Tonquilda the quality. That was the part that

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<v Speaker 1>was most interested in, and Lene pushed me into the volume,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was never interested in the volume. Volker was worried.

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<v Speaker 1>He pulled off a miracle the first time, but he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know if he could do it again. But he

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<v Speaker 1>knew if he couldn't supply the beans to felsh Lean,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else would. So he made it happen, paying dozens

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<v Speaker 1>of middlemen to be his buyers, building fermentation houses in

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<v Speaker 1>the bush, charter excessence so you could check on quality,

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<v Speaker 1>renting storage rooms and ceedy towns, and paying guards to

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<v Speaker 1>watch them. Growing every year, o back into the business

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<v Speaker 1>and borrowing more. Besides, he'd become Bolivia's cacao kingpin. Any

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<v Speaker 1>of Olivia's cocaine kingpins would have recognized the fundamentals of

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<v Speaker 1>his business, and they had recognized the next development, too, competition.

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<v Speaker 1>As word got out about wild believing cocao, new players

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<v Speaker 1>jumped into the game. There were many copies, bad copies,

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<v Speaker 1>good copies of what I did, so it became actually

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<v Speaker 1>big big. Most of the newbies were nonprofits interested in

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable developments. They had lots of foundation money to spend

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<v Speaker 1>and little interest in turning a profit. The laws supply

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<v Speaker 1>and demand took its course. The price for wild boliving

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<v Speaker 1>cacao exploded from forty cents a pound to more than

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<v Speaker 1>two dollars. Things got totally out of hand. Prices went up,

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<v Speaker 1>sky rocking, and NGOs flooming in making projects. In a way,

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<v Speaker 1>this was mission accomplished. Volker's dream of creating a new

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<v Speaker 1>forest economy, one that preserved the environment while simultaneously bringing

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<v Speaker 1>money to the area had come true. The people were

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<v Speaker 1>getting real money for their cacao, their lives improved, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're interested in the chocolateales returned. It was textbook sustainable development,

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<v Speaker 1>except for everything it did for the rainforest. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable for Vulcar. Neither felt really nor any other commercial

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<v Speaker 1>buyer could afford to pay enough for the beans to

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<v Speaker 1>cover his costs, and by two thousand ten he found

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<v Speaker 1>himself priced out of the market he'd created. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like ten years of turmoil, and I said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not what I signed I signed for. He needed a

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<v Speaker 1>new supply cocao that hadn't yet exploded in price, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was one advantage he still had over the competition.

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<v Speaker 1>All these newcomers only knew how to buy beans from

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<v Speaker 1>the most obvious players. But Vulcar had twenty years of

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<v Speaker 1>connections all over the Bolivian Amazon, and he worked his

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<v Speaker 1>connections for any leads on new sources of wild cocao,

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<v Speaker 1>and finally he got a good one. On the Monterey River.

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<v Speaker 1>In Uraka, a tribal territory, were vast supplies of wild cocao.

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<v Speaker 1>He got in touch with the chief, who said that

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<v Speaker 1>Urakare had been selling to local dealers for very low

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<v Speaker 1>prices and they might be very interested in a new arrangement.

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<v Speaker 1>So Volker made plans for an expedition to make his pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>And that, of course, was when I got in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with him. And if he ever thought, well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty weird spot to bring a journalist, he never

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<v Speaker 1>told me. And your grandpa hold this, Yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way I watch your fingers that don't get in between.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck. The river village is called Elcombate, named for

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<v Speaker 1>a battle in one of Olivia's endless border squabbles with

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<v Speaker 1>its neighbors, and it still has the feel of a

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<v Speaker 1>place that doesn't really belong to anywhere. And the village

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<v Speaker 1>itself it's a disaster zone. A thin sheet of river

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<v Speaker 1>is flowing through the settlement. The boats are tied up

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<v Speaker 1>to the huts, chickens perched on posts, trying to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with plan B. I wasn't recording audio back on

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<v Speaker 1>that two thousand ten trip, but the memories are still

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<v Speaker 1>etched in Volker's mind. It was and from a production

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<v Speaker 1>point of view, in a miserable situation and mean from

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<v Speaker 1>the mango trees are bags of very sad looking cacao.

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<v Speaker 1>The coco was badly treated and due to the weather condition,

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I saw that the coca was wasn't so good. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was a little disappointing right there. But I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's talk to the people find out what are

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<v Speaker 1>their needs. We gather on a platform in the center

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<v Speaker 1>of the village and Vulgar makes his pitch. The argument

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<v Speaker 1>was mainly that I will come all the years and

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<v Speaker 1>I will buy the cow at their spot so they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to travel, and that we well, we were

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<v Speaker 1>working together and improving the quality because I needed a

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<v Speaker 1>better quality than what they have, and so I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do all this, then I can give you

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<v Speaker 1>a very good price. To sweeten the d l focused

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>brought entertainment from his pack. He produces some paper and

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<v Speaker 1>crayons and holds a CaCO drawing contest for the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, we give a price to the best

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>painting with the theme of cocao. What would you paint

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>about kaw? And I still have them somewhere. Soon dozens

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<v Speaker 1>of pages of golden pods and crazy cocoutry people are

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<v Speaker 1>covering the school benches and we're all laughing hysterically, and

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<v Speaker 1>that turns out to be the exact pitch Vulcar needed

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<v Speaker 1>to make. All along. The women have combat am been

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<v Speaker 1>watching us, and they're smiling at this goofy Germans drawing

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>cocao monsters with their kids, And soon they Involker are

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>chatting away like old friends, and then losing the tensions

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to the moms because finally the moms they all the

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>ladies they were in favor. By the next morning, we

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<v Speaker 1>leave Combati with a deal. Vulcan will build them a

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>fermentation center so they can dry their cocaw properly and

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>he'll send a boat to buy the cow on the

0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>spot at a premium price. We planned on spending the

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>night in a riverside hut that belonged to our guide's brother,

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>But when we arrive, we're greeted by scene out of

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a horror movie. Somebody has spent the day opening thousands

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>of pods there and drying the beans in the hut.

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Ants are swarming every service, gorging on the sugary juice.

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>By now, I have a healthy fear of Amazonian ants.

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<v Speaker 1>They move in waves across the jungle floor, attacking anything

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in their path. Bugs, frogs, lizards, journalists rowan. He came

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<v Speaker 1>with the flip flops, or sometimes he has, and I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is no good, and he did the ant dance.

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<v Speaker 1>True story years ago, a drunken man in Bolivia passed

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<v Speaker 1>out against a tree that contained a big ant nest.

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<v Speaker 1>He never woke up. These ants are I have no

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>pity the dawn, respect in the repellent or stuff like that.

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Damn the mh h. Just stay the night with these

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<v Speaker 1>ants would be suicide. We have to find another hut,

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<v Speaker 1>but we only have an hour before dark. Our guide

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<v Speaker 1>says he knows the place nearby downside channel of the river,

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>so we head for it. It's on stilts sticking out

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<v Speaker 1>of the flooded channel, and there's an old couple standing

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>in the open door staring at us in the shop,

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<v Speaker 1>and so are the piglets and chickens they've rescued from

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the flood. The funny part was that we had to

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>share our bedroom with some pickies. Yes, we're all in

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the one room hut together. We string our hammocks above

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the piglets and climb in. There smoked predecessors hanging from

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the raptors above us, and the mother pig was in

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>a different shed screaming all night, and they wanted the

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>babies like where are you? Where are you? And the

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>little piggies were answering, we're here, We're here. Bats beat

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the air in front of my face all night long

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>as they come and go through the open hut. I

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<v Speaker 1>lie wide awake, suspended between pig squeal and diig sausage.

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Vulcar stares contentedly beside me. There was a very very

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>special night. It never happened again. There was a very

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>very special moment in time. Yeah, I still have night venus.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time we drag ourselves back to try and

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>kill it dad. A few days later, Fulkers put himself

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ahead of the competition. If all

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>goes as planned, he'll have enough cocao to make felsh

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<v Speaker 1>Lean very happy to pay back his loans and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even to save a bit of money for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in his life. And the story I write about

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<v Speaker 1>him and our journey is going to help juice the

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<v Speaker 1>world of cacao hunting as a whole new generation of

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<v Speaker 1>extreme chocolate makers begins racing to get their hands on

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>incredible beans. But that's going to plunge them into the

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 1>deep end of their own forest, and at times they're

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>going to find themselves way over their heads. I don't

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>like guns, and I've never wanted us. Haven't gotten to me.

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>The idea of having a gun owned by the company

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>out in the company vehicle is terrifying. But I mean,

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you saw the stacks of cash in our office. We're

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:11.760
<v Speaker 1>going out there with thousands of dollars on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week we dive into the dark side of big

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