WEBVTT - The Hard Truth About Penis Size: What Most Men Get Wrong 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:01.680 Let's talk about it. 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:05.040 Let's talk about the Man. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:05.400 Hero. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:13.880 Let's talk about it. Let's talk about the Man Hero. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:22.400 Welcome to the Man, Welcome back to the mail room 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.759 with doctor Jesse Mills. I am Doctor Jesse Mills, and 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.040 I am staring in the handsome brown eyes of Jordan 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.120 run Top, my man on the street, my man in 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.040 the studio. I gotta be honest, I'm a little nervous 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.839 about this episode today, Jordan. I just think, you know, 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.400 I don't get nervous very often, as you know, but 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.199 I don't know if this episode is going to measure up. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.080 To what we normally do there it is. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.480 Yeah, I'm afraid that we are going to talk about 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.400 something that I think is nearer and dear, potentially tragic 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.040 to a lot of guys. And so obviously we're going 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.840 to do it in our normal way of demystifying what 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.680 out there, trying to make guys feel pretty good about 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.200 what's going on in their lives. And what we're talking 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.160 about is is penis size Today? Yeah, we're going to 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.120 do a whole episode on what's up with the penis? 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.080 And you know, I don't know this triggered because when 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.280 we had our guest on a little bit ago, Jordan 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.679 Ritter Khan one of the one of the guys in 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.319 that book American Men, which please guys go out. You know, 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.960 it's a secondary plug, but it is. It truly is 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:30.280 a phenomenal book. But a guy named Gideon, who was 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.920 the West Point graduate, really it, you know, resonated with 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.440 a lot of guys, I'm sure, because he was fixated 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.039 on comparing his penis to the other lovers that his 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.520 both wife and again a little bit later in the 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.680 book girlfriend and then future wife had and it just 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.400 you know, he was fixated on it. Yet he had 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:54.800 a very greater than two standard deviations, larger penis than average, 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.920 and so he had really nothing to worry about, which 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.640 means basically that we all have either something to worry 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:04.279 about mentally but not physiologically. So that's the long intro 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.600 to what we're doing today, which is it's all about 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:07.240 the penis. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:08.639 Jordan, what's that man? 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.480 Not too much, But I'm glad you mentioned that book 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.960 American Man, because it's incredibly powerful and that whole section 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.480 with Gideon was really what got me thinking about doing 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:18.160 this episode. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.840 Yeah, yeah, so the American Well, actually we'll just say, 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:25.040 the penis in general is, boy, it's it's there's a 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:26.839 lot of history here we're going to go into. There's 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.720 a lot of perceptions we're going to go into, and 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:31.720 then there's a lot of my own personal bias in 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.079 terms of what I see in the clinic on a 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.799 daily basis, the history being you know, I mean, think 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.720 about Michelangelo's David, right, this specimen of a man. But 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.240 you know, I think most of us we'll look at 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.080 those pecks and tries and delts on that statue and 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.320 not so much as penis, which is you know, pretty 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:53.480 flaccid and pretty pretty average looking. And it's really the 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.679 penis has gone through multiple phases really almost a lot 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.640 like obesity and well, I should say body habitus has 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.720 gone through phases like there were times in history when 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:08.880 smaller penises were associated with better social status, better brains, 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.079 and a large penis was considered you know, animalistic and 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:15.640 almost disgusting. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.480 And not desirable. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.919 And so you know, boy, that is not twenty twenty 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.120 six or even nineteen ninety six, and so so what 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.160 happened with all of that? And we're going to talk 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.520 about that a little bit about my own thoughts, but 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.760 the history of it is truly fascinating, and that that 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:38.840 guys forever have wanted to measure their penis to everybody 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.960 around them, either in the locker room or on the 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.960 battlefield or anywhere else. And it used to be, as 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.360 I was saying, good good penises were kind of what 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.600 we would consider very average, too small these days, and 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.720 large penises were considered a lot more I don't know, 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.760 be steal and we'll we'll leave it there. 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.200 I'm really fascinated by that because you look through the 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.000 ages and you see the changing beauty standards, and there 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.880 was that time when being pale was considered more beautiful 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.880 than being tan, because it meant you could afford to 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.480 be indoors and not out in the fields working as 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.240 a laborer. So the cultural history of beauty standards is 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.880 really fascinating. But I think back through the years and 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.000 I just remember seeing these ceremonial statues that were very 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.120 ancient and were meant to represent fertility, and they were 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.679 all very large. So I always assumed it was pretty 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.040 consistent through the years that to be blunt, bigger was better. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.159 Yeah, no, yeah, I mean, you know, big penis small brain. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.000 I think was for a long time, and we had 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:41.200 to try to correlate, but it really really doesn't. So 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.360 I don't know where do you think this is all 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.240 coming from. I guess you're sort of surprised that I 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.960 even made that historical nod that, in fact, it wasn't 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:53.520 always cool to have be packing something below the belt there. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.600 But I think it's pornography. I really do. I mean, 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.839 I think when you see a guy an adult in 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.159 obviously he's an athlete of sorts, he's an actor, and 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:08.720 he often is incredibly well endowed, greater than the standard deviations, 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.080 which we'll get into, and I think if that's our 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.840 benchmark for the average guy, especially for kids, and i'd 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.039 say kids that really start their introduction to porn on 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.000 our phones is you know, nine years old, ten years old, 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.400 sometimes earlier, and so then you think, okay, well that's 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.400 what I'm going to grow into someday. And I think 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.320 we have to figure out how to stop that dialogue. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.880 And I don't know, we don't do this in professional athletics, right, 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.159 I mean, when you look at a professional football game, 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:37.800 you're not thinking, man, I got to go out and 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.480 throw darts like Tom Brady or some of the greats 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.320 and basketball. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:42.800 Same thing. 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.560 I mean, it's you can really appreciate the athleticism and 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.080 the fact that that person is a gifted athlete. So 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.680 maybe if we apply that in mentality to what we're 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.479 watching in adult entertainment, it is great. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.240 But also would I would take the athletic. 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.360 Thing a little bit further this metaphor if you will, 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.160 And I promise I'm not going where you might think 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.239 I'm going with this next comparison, But let's talk about 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.000 three of the all time NBA greats, Steph Curry, Lebron, 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:10.359 James Shaquille O'Neil. Steph Curry is about six', two, Right 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.960 lebron is six' nine, six' ten and chack is over. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.520 Seven feet tall they're. All time greats they have, completely, 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.120 different sizes right they're, one's you, know my height and 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.719 one is and one is a FOOT taller. Than i 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.240 am and yet they're all professional athletes and they're all. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.760 Fantastic at it so before you Think of, what I'm 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.800 thinking what i'm actually trying to say. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.160 Is that that all of these guys. 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:37.120 Are amazing performers which means that penises of all sizes can. Also, be, 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.240 amazing performers right they all get the job done with 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.400 the body they've been given and they know how. To, 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.320 work it, so you know let's talk about penises in. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.560 THAT same context i have. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.360 A, question for you what year did you, begin PRACTICING 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.920 urology because i imagine that would correlate to roughly when 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:58.039 pornography became extremely widely Available. On THE internet and i 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.760 was curious if you notice a change in men's preoccupation 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.880 with size from the beginning of your practice. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.360 Until, more recently, yeah you know we're going to talk 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.840 about another thing in pornography that that drives me crazy 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.280 as a as a physician that specializes in this in terms, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:17.400 of unreasonable standards and that is. An EJACULATORY endurance, and 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.080 i know the, PENIS size thing i think has been 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.080 has always been around in terms of people, thinking that, 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.080 they you know they need, to be bigger and, THE surveys, 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.000 go i mean the, answers your question, by the way 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.600 is about two thousand and ONE is when i, Got 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.040 into urology, AND you're right i mean that's sort of 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.240 when internet porn started to. Really take off so maybe 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.040 maybe it's just A fact that i've grown up professionally 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:41.240 in a time when when access to visuals of large penises. 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:45.720 Has BEEN prevalent but i think that the real issue 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.360 is that these standards have been there really not that 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:53.160 long that people have have had this this, what is 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.760 it almost fixation, with penis size and yet they really 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.120 don't know what. They're dealing with and so if you 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.560 look at a lot of surveys and what we've what 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.560 we've found is that, the you know the average penis, 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.760 size fully erect is. About FIVE inches and i think 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.480 if you, ask most, men in fact people have done 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:12.000 this and they think average penis size should be about six, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.320 to seven inches and then large it would be. Greater than, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.520 eight and so, first of all then we already have 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.280 an unfair standard of where we know scientifically that a 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.400 fully erect penis is really not as big as most 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.360 people think. It should be and the other crazy thing 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.800 is that eighty percent of guys are not satisfied with 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.560 the size of their penis according. To some studies some 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.600 studies say it's not, quite that high but there are 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.680 a lot of guys out, there, that like, MAN you 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.839 know I wish that i had this, had more girth 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.040 more linked and we'll talk about you know some of 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.480 the ways that guys can get in trouble chasing that, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.920 ideal body metric and also some of the ways that, 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:46.040 guys you know might be able. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:47.360 To do, it but. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.160 Truly there's only a pathology when a guy's penis is 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.600 well under that five inch standard of what we look, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.840 at as scientifically we say that a guy that has 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:02.640 a small penis has two and a half standard deviations below, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.800 that five inches which kind of means that anybody with 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.480 an erect penis less than three inches definitely has. Potentially, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.400 a problem now why do we need, To, Label, that jordan, 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.360 WELL you know i think it's only because if a 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.800 guy does have what is sometimes referred to as a 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.720 micro penis or, a small penis that there actually are 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.840 things we can do. For THOSE men and i definitely 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.920 don't want that to for guys to suffer in silence 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.920 if in fact there may be, something to do and. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:28.400 So we'll talk about. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.000 That as, well in fact actually i'll just get into 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:31.800 IT now because i was just. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.680 Thinking about this not. THAT long ago i had a 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:35.040 guy in my. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.959 Clinic who is in, HIS mid twenties i think it was, 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:42.800 about twenty five and he came to me because he 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.920 actually had problems with his testicle, not fully descending which 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.320 is also you know what. We just had we Just 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.120 Had on brad snyder who talked about his battle with 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.800 his pediatrician on. His undescended testicle this guy had had 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:01.400 some issues with smaller than average testicle and then also 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:05.319 actually never really fully. Developed in puberty and he came 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.959 to my office really mostly from a testicular concern and 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.520 that's why his doctor sent, him to me but also 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.000 on his physical examine obviously in, talking to him he 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.760 truly had. A micro penis his penis was very much 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:21.920 the size of, a neonatal size and he was twenty, 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.800 five years old and he was. Also super tall and 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:29.800 so if somebody out listening, fits that description you really 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.640 need to find a urologist and probably an endocrinoledge to 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.199 help take. Care of that because this guy. Had delayed 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.600 puberty he never actually fully, went through puberty and it 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.160 was because he lacked the precursor hormones in the brain 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.000 in the pituitary gland to actually stimulate him to. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.000 Go through puberty so can you. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.720 Imagine at twenty five walking around at six 't two a, 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:54.679 full grown man, no facial hair high voice still and 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:59.280 then below the belt no, adult secondary characteristics and so 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.400 those are. Not at, uncommon but somehow even in this, 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:03.840 day and age he made it all the way to 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.439 twenty five without somebody really. Working this up, and you 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:10.200 know it came from a farming Community, in central california 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:14.559 really not great, access to care and it probably had at, 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.920 sometimes some, poor you, know documentation status and, so you 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.200 know he was ACTUALLY working when, i saw him had 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.880 a job and was getting at least state, covered health 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.000 insurance and so he'd kind of done all the right 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.320 things from a governmental standpoint to finally come in. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:29.800 And see me the. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.920 Cool thing about it is that that that guy actually 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.520 just through some pretty, EASY blood work i figured out 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.800 the problem and was able to cause him to go 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.920 through puberty even as a twenty five or twenty six 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.160 year old, at that point and then he grew to 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.319 a normal penis size and he started developing. Secondary sexual 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.800 characteristics and that's not like a crazy. Medical miracle story 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.600 those guys are out there and there's a few reasons 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:55.719 for why we have. That delayed puberty so that was. 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.800 Kind of cool and so that is why if you 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.560 truly have. A micro penis you really need, to, get 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.520 help right because there are things. We can do it's 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.400 very rare that we can't find something to stimulate some 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.920 kind of pubertial growth or. Pen out growth and the, 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.640 younger you are the more. Successful it is. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.880 That's incredibly fascinating i've never heard a. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:13.120 Case. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.560 Like, that wow yeah That's something, called calman syndrome which 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.120 we talk about all the time, in pediatric endochronology and 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.520 it's just basically where your pituitary gland doesn't really develop 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.760 the hormones or the anatomy to actually start all. Signaling 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.760 the testicles all we have to do is put that 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:34.839 guy in replacement hormones to start stimulating testicular and. Pen 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.280 out growth so that's kind. Of a win but again. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.520 That's micro penis so those are the guys that truly 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:45.040 have very. Very, small penises now how important do you 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:46.040 think penis size is? 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.680 The, SEXUAL function well i was just going. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.720 To ask you that at what point is it more 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.200 for the guy's self esteem rather than any kind of 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.680 sexual function or pleasure for the person in. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.120 The receiving end the, answer is, yes OF course because i. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.280 Set you up, but the yeah but really both in 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:06.120 same sex as well. As heterosexual, relationships you know we can, 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.280 do so much and we'll start on the heterosexual, side of, 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.119 things but really the majority of women do not climax. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:14.760 Through penetrative intercourse usually it's. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.160 Through clteral stimulations so only about twenty percent of women 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:22.520 actually have vaginal derived. Or penetrative orgasms and, so you 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.160 know it's really not not what you do, with your 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:26.840 penis but it's what you do. With everything else and 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.800 it's kind of the entire inclusive aspect. 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:31.160 Of what a. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.439 Sexual experience is and even in same sex couples there 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.559 is a little bit, of that too where depending on 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.240 how men engage with sex with other men will depend 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.920 on whether penis size. Is that important and the truth 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:46.800 is is that most, of the time even, in those, 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.920 relationships you know they figure out. Ways around, it and 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.760 again it's so rare that that guys truly have incredibly 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.760 small penises that it makes a. Lick, of DIFFERENCE anyway 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.920 maybe i shouldn't say, Look a, difference so anyway we'll 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:05.520 just let. That one drop so the answer is, that 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:06.200 it's okay. 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.760 You can laugh. It's, on radio, there you go. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.240 Don't, mute yourself no, BUT seriously, THOUGH i mean i 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.920 think that we do have to kind of get rid. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.480 Of this thought and again going back to our Previous, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.600 guest and gideon, AND they thought i mean, this, is 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.520 real right that this. Is penal dysmorphism just, like YOU 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.200 know if i only did a few, more bench presses 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:27.880 my chest, Would BE bigger if i only did a, 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.400 few more curls my biceps. 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.600 Would get BIGGER what can i do to? 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:36.200 Enhance PENAL size and i think that's that's really going 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.800 to be what is we think and to change how 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.400 we engage with the medical community as well as these 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.000 sort of quasi or, ersatz medical community because there have 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:50.040 been pills out for generations that that purport to, improve 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:51.160 penole size and there. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.960 Have been techniques have you everard? Something called jolking does 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.160 that sound familiar in any? Of your? 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:03.320 Feeds, sounds dangerous yeah as a joking j. E lqi 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.000 ng it's probably. A scrabble word. 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:05.600 I don't know you have to. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:06.800 Look it up it'd be. A good one, IF it 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.360 isn't i don't. Have a u It is a arabic term. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.320 And it does it dates back probably five, hundred plus 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.600 years and it's essentially a systematic way that guys can 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.720 manually stretch their penis with quite a, bit of force 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.240 and it's something they do almost like physical therapy, for 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.720 the penis where they start. At the base there's a lot, 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.400 of different Ways and actual i'm not going to teach 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:27.640 people how, to do it because THE last thing i 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.080 want you to take, from this Podcast kind and fairy 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.080 listener Is to say mills taught me. How TO jolke 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.040 because i am not going to teach you. HOW to 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:35.560 joke i don't even want you to look it up 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:40.040 other than to know, that it's interesting an interesting practice 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:45.000 in certain communities that has widespread availability with the advent, 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.480 of the internet and it actually can be. KIND of, 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.240 dangerous i mean there are guys that try to increase 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.480 their penis eyes, just by stretching and just, like you know, 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.880 there are. ATHLETES professional athletes i remember meeting a couple 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:02.880 of professional wide receivers, in my career, and those guys even, 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.520 when they're teenagers will start pulling on their fingers like really, 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.160 hard every day thinking they're going to kind of stretch 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.800 the growth plates and grow bigger fingers so they can catch. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.120 The FOOTBALL better and. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.800 I don't know i Mean the guys i've met In the, 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.120 hands I've shook and i've got, pretty big hands those 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:21.080 guys can envelop my entire. Hand with theirs and so 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.760 maybe there's something to this idea of longitudinal traction can 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.640 improve the growth of certain. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.920 Organs and fingers. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.440 And so there are all these devices that are either 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.440 vacuum erection devices traction devices that can maybe stretch. That 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:42.320 flaccid length the real problem with joking or penile traction 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.800 not only can they be dangerous of. Not used, APPROPRIATELY 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:46.840 in fact i just had a guy the other day 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:47.800 in the emergence. 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.440 Room who joked himself into. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.920 A penile fracture and remember all the five p's, of 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.080 the pinocalypse that was, one of them a penile fracture 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.880 where he actually tore the membrane that keeps his erections 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:04.159 intact and needed surgery in order to fix that injury 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.280 that he caused himself through aggressive stretching. Of his Penis 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.960 pen attraction i've just been, around FOR decades actually i 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.159 should say. A thousand, years i mean there are weights 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.159 that people would hang on their penis way back in 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.159 the day to help improve the. For the length, in 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.920 those cultures that thought that penile length and was as associated, 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.200 with THE virbility which, i already, said you know was kind, 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:29.240 of culturally dependent and so attraction is just a more modern. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.840 Version of that and we use traction to treat a 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.119 Medical condition, called perrone's disease which is that curvature of 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.560 the penis to help kind of. Splint it straight and 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.120 if you do it in a medically indicated way for 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.120 a finite, amount of time usually no more, than thirty 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.720 minutes then it can be a safe adjunct to some 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.920 of the things we do to help. Improve penal curvature 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.320 but if you go rogue with it and leave that traction, 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.639 device on, overnight for example it can, cause nerve, injuries 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:56.880 stretch injuries and so again. 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.160 Not really recommended it also never really. 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.919 Been studied on label or studied with a good a 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.400 good randomized trial that it does do anything to really. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.240 Improve penut length and THE other problem i have with 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.199 is it just kind of a simple geometric problem is 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.760 that you have a flaccid cylinder that if you increase 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.960 the length, of the cylinder then you're going to not, 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.080 Change the volume you're going to. Decrease the circumference and 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.400 so certainly we see that with traction devices that you're 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.320 not if you're going to get, a longer penis then 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.080 you're going to get a. Less girthy penis and if 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:30.399 you ask most, recipients of, penises if anything it's the 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.960 girth that makes more of a difference in terms of 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.760 filling the orifice that one is penetrated in the length 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.760 and especially in penis. And vagina, intercourse you know the 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.960 average vaginal canal is between three and five, inches at 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.719 most and so if you're trying to stuff eight inches 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.480 of stretch penis into a, four inch canal there's a 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.119 lot that's going to be left on the table or 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.359 at least. In the SHEETS and so i think, from that, 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.920 perspective you know girth might be a bigger deal which 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.879 is going to go us right. Into okay miles so 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.160 you're saying that there's no good way to link them 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.600 a penis, short of surgery and even surgery will get 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.879 into the. Problem with, that but again what we're talking 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.320 about is not how do you increase. The erect penis 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.560 there is actually no way to increase. Erect penile size 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.479 there's only a way to increase flacid penl size OR 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.119 give what i call a, locker room penis meaning that 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.200 you can look pretty good walking around, the locker room 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.399 if that's what you're, trying to impress but really not, 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:27.720 a sexual partner because, nothing we do either penile fillers which, 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.600 we'll talk about or even implants that can, expand the 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.680 girth really do anything to. Increase penl length so let 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.239 that sit. For a second so there's nothing you can 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.920 do to increase. Erect penile length that's. A fixed structure 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.840 and why? Is that so anatomically the penis is made 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:49.840