1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Joe with LaVar Aarings had rating win and Jonas Knox 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: on Box fours Radio. 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 2: We've got ourselves a game seven left over in the 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: NBA with the NBA Finals, will see a game seven. 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: After the Indiana Pacers rose from the ashes last night 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: and said, you know what, LeVar Arrington, we're gonna I'm 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: not gonna let you shovel during on us just yet. 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: We're going out there and we're going to put on 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: a show. And they had a willing participant in the 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: whole matter because the Oklahoma City Thunder looked awful, looked 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: awful turning the ball over, and that game was a 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: complete wipeout almost from start to finish. And so we 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: get ourselves a game seven, and the man of the hour, 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: Tyrese Halliburton. People wondering whether or not he was going 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: to come back and whether or not he was going 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: to be ready to go. He spoke following the game 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: about the Pacers heading to Game seven. 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: It's about the margins, like it's about taking care of 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: the ball and rebounding. Those are the most important things, 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: you know. 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: You gotta control the controller balls and let. 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: The cards fall where they may. You know, it's a 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: one game series now, and man, we believe you know, 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: we got a lot of faith in this group. So 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: take care of my bodies. Get ready at the Game 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: seven NBA Finals. What more can you ask for it? 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: And now as it stands, right now, the Oklahoma City 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: Thunder are eight and a half point favorites in Game seven. 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: Gut feeling, do you like OKC minus the eight and 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: a half or you're taking the points with the Indiana Pacers. 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the points with the Pacers. I agree, 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the points with. 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: It's a one game situation. You could see something crazy happen, 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: like SGA gets into foul trouble early and they've got 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: to sit them for a couple of minutes because they can't. 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: Run the risk. 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: And then Indiana goes on a run and next thing 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: you know, they're trailing. And then maybe he can't be 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: as aggressive going to the hole because he's already got 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: three four Just like now you've left everything for chance, 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: Like now you've opened up the door just a little 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: bit for Indiana. That a bounce goes here, a missque 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: happens here, and now Indiana's got a real shot to 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: win this thing. There's a real possibility now to where 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: if you're Oklahoma City, you just don't turn the ball 47 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: over last night. You know you've got a compromise player 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: in Tyrese Halliburton. Now he didn't get stretched out. It 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: wasn't like they had to play him until the final 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: whistle because they were trying to win a tight game. 51 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: He didn't have to play a whole bunch of minutes. 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: He's got a few days rest, or at least a 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: couple of days rest until that time. And now he 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: gets ready to go, and you try and go on 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: the road and do what you've already done in the 56 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: series before, which is win in Oklahoma City. To me, 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: everything's on the table in this game, and I'm just 58 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: hoping it's tight down the stretch because if it's if 59 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: it's close down the stretch, I feel like, okay, see, 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: you might play a little bit tighter. Just knowing they 61 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: were supposed to win. Nobody gave Indiana chance. When we 62 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: were talking about this series from the get go, I 63 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: think you and I were on the same page, going, man, 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: this isn't gonna be the wipeout everybody thinks it's gonna 65 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: be Nobody gave Indiana chance, and yet here we are 66 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: in a Game seven. 67 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: And the NBA has to be super pumped up in 68 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: a static about it because now you can't say this 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: was a lopsided final. You can't say that this was 70 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: no parody. And so you look at both of these teams, 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: and they are teams that could be good for years 72 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: to come because of how young some of these guys 73 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: are on these teams. But I think the the ultimate 74 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: to me, the ultimate storyline here is that it is 75 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: a Game seven and in that they have really, in 76 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: a lot of ways, wrapped the storyline around Tyrese Haliburton, 77 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: and I find it to be kind of curious and 78 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: strange for the simple fact that it was a lot 79 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: of things, a lot of other elements outside of Halliburton 80 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: that was the reason why that game went the way 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 3: that it went. I think it's commendable that he got 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: out there, you know, banged up. But if you're looking 83 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: at who the catalysts of all of this was, I 84 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: would say in this game, it's the coach. The coach 85 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: was the catalyst of this game because the strategy. I 86 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: believe that they executed against the OKC thunder was sound. 87 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: You know, you came into the topic talking about they played. 88 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: You know, OKAC was careless with the bull and you know, 89 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 3: they did things that kind of you would say again, 90 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: SGA even said at his own admission that they sucked. 91 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: But when you take a look at it, if you're 92 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: breaking it down, did they suck because they just played bad? 93 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: Or were they forced into the scenarios and the situations 94 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: that played out? And I think you got to take 95 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: your hat off to the coaching staff because the way 96 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: they played defense against Oklahoma, it really limited them in 97 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: the opportunities and the options that they had. And they 98 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 3: also took advantage of a deep bench, a very deep bench, 99 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: which is interesting because OKC took advantage of their bench too. 100 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: I think there was only one player on OKC that 101 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: didn't score. Everybody else got points in the game. I 102 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: just think that this last game now sets the stage 103 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: where you don't know if David or Goliath is going 104 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: to win the fight. You just don't know. And that's 105 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: the best scenario that the NBA could have ever hoped 106 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: or wished for in a finals that didn't boast like 107 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: what we would consider to be the biggest names or 108 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: the biggest brands in the game, the biggest markets and 109 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: the most historic and you know, recognized franchises. That isn't 110 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: what you had. 111 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: I mean you mentioned Rick Carlisle. If it comes down 112 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: to coaching and experience, in Game seven, overwhelmingly favors Rick 113 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: Carlisle won an NBA title in twenty eleven with the MAVs, 114 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: was the coach there. He's obviously a champion as a 115 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: player way back in the eighties when he was with Boston. 116 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: But he's been doing this a long time. He's coached 117 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: a lot of playoff games. And you can tell that 118 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: we've talked about this before in other sports to where 119 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: you know, did he lose the locker room. You can 120 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: tell that locker room has full faith in him because 121 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: they could have easily walked. 122 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: Out last night. 123 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: Maybe you know who knows just looked at the situation 124 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: and been like, hey, we'll do our best, but if 125 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: it gets tight, then we're gonna No. 126 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: They didn't. 127 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: They came out. They were overwhelmingly the better team. The 128 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: fact that they're able to stay in games as opposed 129 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: to mailing it in, and all those comebacks they had 130 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: in previous series and all the big shots and all that. Like, 131 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle's done a masterful job with the team, and 132 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: he's been speaking about this team even going back to 133 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: last year to where it look when they got swept 134 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference Finals by the Celtics. Anybody who 135 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: watched that series realized and that was a lot closer 136 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: than people want to give Indiana credit for. They lost 137 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: a close game early in the series, a game they 138 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: probably should have won, and then Boston ultimately ran with it. 139 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle had that team bounce back this year. They 140 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: were a much better team down the stretch of the seas, 141 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: they got on a roll. They're a problem and so 142 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: if it comes down to a couple of things coaching 143 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: wise late in that game, you gotta favor the guy 144 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: who's got the experience, and that would be Rick Carlisle. 145 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: You have to at this point. 146 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: I think it's great reasoning, it sound reasoning, and I 147 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: think that that could be an advantage that Indiana has 148 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: going into the game. Obviously it's been made mention of 149 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: in the show and probably a ton of times that 150 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: it is a home game for OKC. So there's the 151 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: idea having the friendly confines of being at home. But 152 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: if I were to say, coming out of last name 153 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: A last night's game, the probability of OKC recovering from 154 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: the game last night, I don't know that it's a 155 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: high percentage because it's the way Indiana played the game 156 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: last night. It's like it was a moment to grab 157 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: an unexpected momentum. It's almost like it's almost like if 158 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: you you same boat is running the two hundred meters 159 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: and and okay, see is you same boat? And they 160 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: get out there and they know that they're superior physically 161 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 3: to everybody else that's in the field, and you're running 162 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: and at some point you're like, oh, I got this, 163 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: like I'm gonna win. And you're rounding that corner for 164 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: the last one hundred meters of the race, and somebody 165 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: comes in your periphery and they're they're they're going so 166 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: fast and they're eating up so much so much track 167 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: and and so much distance that you can't even really 168 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 3: comprehend or measure why it's happening. And before you know it, 169 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: they done ran up on you and you don't have 170 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: the ability to be able to hold them off. And 171 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 3: I just wonder if that happened last evening, because if 172 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: you're talking about saving your best effort, you gotta believe 173 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: the pacers saved their best effort for last night to 174 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: keep the series alive. Is it a situation where Usain 175 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: sees it and can adjust to it and still win 176 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: the race even though you lost the lead that you 177 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: had or is it one of those things where you 178 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: couldn't you couldn't match it when the kick came in. 179 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: The kick was too good, that got in front of you, 180 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 3: and now you couldn't you couldn't finish the race. That 181 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: is this a situation where okay, see can't finish the race? 182 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: Isn't that kind of what happened with Shador and the cops, 183 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: Like he was. 184 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: Trying to get away, But I don't know if that 185 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: last kick, if he was trying to get away, they 186 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: would have arrested him, I would assume. But with that 187 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 3: being said, I don't know, because there is a girlfriend 188 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: that that's out there. She's right beside him, but they're 189 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: not right beside each other. Their park on the side 190 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 3: of the road. Now she's getting warning, he's getting a citation. 191 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: I don't know that this is the perfect comparable to 192 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 3: what's going on in the NBA playoffs. 193 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: Here's what I would say. Look, I think we all 194 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: agree Game seven in the in the NBA Playoffs, in 195 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: the NBA Finals is exactly what everybody wants. It's going 196 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: to be featured on Sunday Night, and it's going to 197 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: be the ratings are going to be great. Everyone's going 198 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: to be enthralled by Game seven. I could almost assure 199 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: you that Steven A. Smith's not going to be playing 200 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: back a rat or whatever he was playing on his 201 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: phone while that. 202 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: Game is going Solitaire. 203 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: Solitaire, Hey, he won't even be playing That could be 204 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: the the the iPhone version of Clue, all right, he 205 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: who cares about Colonel Mustard. Steven A is going to 206 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: be locked in on the Pacers and the Thunder for 207 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: Game seven in the NBA Finals. But I'd like to 208 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: point this out. It's taking a little bit too long. 209 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: The NBA playoffs started before Easter. What the f are 210 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: we doing? Like literally, like why is. 211 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: It so long? 212 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: It's just too much? 213 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa. 214 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: Like no, yeah, just the playoffs. 215 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: The playoffs. 216 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: Okay, enought LeVar but. 217 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: Said, like you're talking about NBA Q the playoffs bad 218 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: my bad, My bad, my bad. 219 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 2: The playing tournaments started April fifteenth. It shouldn't take this long, 220 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: Like we're almost in fourth of July, and this is 221 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: But it's the most interesting. 222 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: It's the most interesting part of the season. But you 223 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 3: could have gotten here the end season tournament not so much. Nice. 224 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: Try the regular season not so much. No, try, the 225 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: playoffs is the most it's the most entertaining. It's the 226 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: most interesting aspect of the season. 227 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 2: So dragon, you could have gotten here longer, or you 228 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: could have gotten here quicker. 229 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: It's just it on out. I mean, the amount of 230 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: days in between, like, Okay, they won yesterday, play tomorrow, 231 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 3: thank you tomorrow. Yes, they don't want to do they 232 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: didn't want to do that. They want to they want 233 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: to max it out. For what max it out? 234 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: I know, how Like you're not competing against anything right 235 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: now really for the most part. I mean, there's there's 236 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: soccer tournaments going on, there's baseball, there's all that. There's 237 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: you're not so what do you Why are you trying 238 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 2: to space this out even more to create discussion. 239 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: Duration of time? You know, duration of time, that's all 240 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: this is. 241 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: But this is the problem. This is why if every 242 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: round is a seven game series, and you've got to 243 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: play in tournament. It drags on and on and on, Like. 244 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a long ass playoff. It's no doubt 245 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: about it. If you were long ass playoffs. 246 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: If I were to tell you Eastern Day, you're you're on, 247 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: You're unwrapping a Cadbury egg, and I'd be like, by 248 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: the way, these games they won't be over until late June. 249 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: You'd be like, yeah, whatever, No, no, no, seriously, We've 250 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: now talked about Joey Chestnut returning for the Hot Dog 251 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: Eating Contest in the time that it's taken the NBA 252 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: to finish their effing playoffs. Get it together, state it up, 253 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: making a five game series. One, wrap it up between 254 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: let's go, I'm to wrap it up. Come on, man, 255 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: let's go. 256 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: End of the segment, wrap it up. 257 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: Under lay. 258 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: We ain't gonna stop. Take that, Take that, Take that. 259 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: Oh oh, I bet. 260 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 261 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and 262 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays. It's six am Eastern, three am Pacific 263 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 264 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: By the way, I know we were we were kind 265 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: of giving Lee to Lapar executive producer, a hard time 266 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: last hour. It should be pointed out that we're lucky 267 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: to have him here today because he was nearly eaten 268 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: alive by a pack of coyotes. 269 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: Uh straight pack that he. 270 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: Sent over video evidence. 271 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: Lee like twenty of them mother lovers. 272 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: Lee's hanging out in his car at a pack of 273 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: five coyotes roll up to him. 274 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: Lee what like? 275 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: So this was actually, uh coyotes like booze that much. 276 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: Lorena actually with the assist, saved me on this one. 277 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: I was giving her a ride to the Burbank Airport 278 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: and she was parked behind me, and she's and. 279 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: I was like, the way they talk about each other 280 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: is so crazy. Bro, Got they don't end up married. 281 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: Got, Well, she just she texted me, or actually she 282 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: called me. We were in separate cars, and she says, 283 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 4: you should probably look up. Look up, and there's there's 284 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: a coyote look at me right in the face. 285 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: But why would you be looking down. 286 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: I was on my car, I was on my phone, 287 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: as everyone does. No, it was no as you can 288 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: see in the video, I said you we were all 289 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 4: we were both parked part in the neighborhood, and I was, uh, 290 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: you know, I was there before she was. I was 291 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: just on my phone waiting for it so that I 292 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: could give her a ride to the airport. 293 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: How does she know to tell you to get your 294 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: head out. 295 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, she pulled up behind me and she said, uh, 296 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: look up. 297 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: So you guys are like Shador and his girlfriend. 298 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: Getting sound and it sounds just as incongruent as that story, 299 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: I guess. I was, yeah, look up and see all 300 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: these coyotes from behind, like you would not make it 301 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: in a horror flick. Lee, you just taking a guess. 302 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: Which, by the way, that is a big safety uh 303 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 4: tip to everyone out there. They always say, don't stop. 304 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 305 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: People are getting targeted who are on their phones in 306 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 4: their cars because everyone just sits in their car looks 307 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: at their phone and stuff like that. 308 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: People are going out. Oh that That's one of my 309 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: big pet peeves that people will pull up to a 310 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: house and just still be scrolling on their phone. Like 311 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: I can understand if you're listening to something on the 312 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: rate like a lot of you know, this show does 313 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: that for a lot of people. They want they want 314 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: to listen to the end of a segment so bad 315 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: that they're willing to sit in their car and listen 316 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: to the end of it. But there's some people who 317 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: just pull up and will just continue to scan on 318 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: their phone. Get out of the car, just do it inside. 319 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: What do you got better Wi Fi? And you're in 320 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: your civic get out and just go inside. Why are 321 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: you hanging out in your car unless you know you're 322 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: you're you're doing some shenanigans, which that teach their own. 323 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: But Lee's just minding his own business and he's got 324 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: five coyotes rolling up a. 325 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 3: You know, maybe that's what the coyotes wanted in all 326 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: the fun. 327 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: It depends on who you are, you know, but there's 328 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: been Yeah, maybe, but it does you know, beg the question. 329 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: You know, there was that thing that was popular a 330 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: few weeks ago where it was can one hundred men 331 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: kill a gorilla? A silver back gorilla? Can one lead 332 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: to lap kill five coyotes? 333 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: Easy done? All you gotta do is take out the 334 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: first one and then they're scattered. 335 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, man, Oh give me a chance. 336 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: Is considered to be a pack Yeah, I don't know. 337 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. You probably get some good 338 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 3: licks off on them, like you know, a couple of 339 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: kicks here and there. But if they keep, if they 340 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: if they pack you out, that's going to be a 341 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: hard one for you to win because they're gonna they're 342 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 3: gonna bite you up pretty good. No, I have confidence 343 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: in myself. 344 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: My question would be, would I be able to defend 345 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 4: because I got two little dogs that I let into 346 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 4: the front yard? 347 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: Oh those are still yeah, those are sacrificed for the Yeah, 348 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: cause yeah, exactly? 349 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: Can I can I defend? 350 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 4: How I defend two dogs that gets a pack of coyotes? 351 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: No, because you can't defend yourself. Lee, That's what I'm 352 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: trying to tell you. I know you could be confident 353 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 3: you but five coyotes and they didn't. They weren't small, No, 354 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: they were healthy too. There were a couple of them 355 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: that were pretty big. 356 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: Welly, send the video out on social media so people 357 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: can see why you nearly were eating alive. 358 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: By the odies, A couple of them bad boys was 359 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: pretty big, man. I just don't one or two. Yes, 360 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: you can defend yourself. Five that's too many. 361 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: Bro, By the way, what a story? 362 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: So how do you go? 363 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: Five coyotes got him? 364 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: He was drinking. 365 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: He was drinking out of a flask at eight fifteen 366 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: in the morning, and five coyotes rolled up and took 367 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: it from him and then ate him alive. 368 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: I got out after this video and confronted one of them. 369 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 3: They didn't do anyth they didn't like. Skywa fronted one 370 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 3: of them. Well, they're they're you know, they're flighty. You know, 371 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: they're more like foxes than they are like wolves. Like 372 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: they're not They're not going to you know, they're not 373 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: going to engage you unless they felt like they needed 374 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: to engage, Like if they were hungry, like hungry hungry, 375 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: they might, they might pack you out. You gotta be carried. 376 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: Don't be taking that light bro. 377 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: By the way, I thought I thought coyotes were just 378 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 2: a California thing. 379 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: They're in every state, They're everywhere. 380 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: They're everywhere everywhere, So everybody's got a problem, especially when 381 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: the weather gets warmer, because they don't want to take 382 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: their animals out during the day, so they'll take them 383 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: on walks at night, and the coyotes just lurk and 384 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: they're just waiting for something small somebody to be dilly 385 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: daling on their phone. Leash gets away from them and 386 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: next thing you know that coyotes chewing on your poodle. 387 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: That's how that works. So there you go. Good luck 388 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: to all the poodles and puppies out there. 389 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: Man, So you got to get a get a real dog. 390 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: You don't have those problems unless it's a skunk. But 391 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: it is. 392 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: The show does not have great luck. Raccoon Craft and 393 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: Brady's pool. LaVar got skunk, League got attacked by coyotes. 394 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 3: Me and mister Sticks got skunked. He got it bad. 395 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: It was all in his mouth. He put that stink 396 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: in that my my baby's he put it in my 397 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 3: dog's mouth. Pause your mouth. 398 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: Wait, we do have Uh. Lee has sent out the tweet. 399 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 2: I believe it at Lee to lap is where they 400 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: can find that. That is your social media so U 401 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: so you can see for yourself why Lee nearly was 402 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: eaten by coyotes. All right, So, uh, speaking of issues, 403 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: the New York Jets had some issues over the past 404 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: couple of years, and uh, the quarter the quarterback with 405 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers, apparently was vocal about 406 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 2: these issues. 407 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: Uh. 408 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: He and Mark schlare Fox Sports One host are friends 409 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: and Mark Schlareth was talking about a situation Rogers was 410 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: venting about in New York on his Stinking Truth podcast, 411 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen. 412 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 5: One thing that Aaron and I had a conversation about 413 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 5: when he was with the Jets was how abysmal their 414 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 5: running game was and how schematically it made no sense. 415 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 5: And I brought up the conversation. I started the conversation, 416 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 5: and then Aaron went on for about a twenty five minute. 417 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 3: Diet dribe on just their run game. 418 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 5: I asked Aaron about it, just about the run game 419 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 5: in general. I said, Man, this is like, it's really bad, 420 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 5: and he went on this diet drive just about you know, 421 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 5: the dysfunction of what we're trying to accomplish and all 422 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 5: these different things. 423 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: And so apparently Rogers, even while in the mix there 424 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: in New York, was not happy about some of the 425 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: the decision making, some of the ideas on how to 426 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: how to fix the run game, so on and so forth. 427 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: And just the more that you hear about this time 428 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: in New York for Rogers and everybody involved, the more 429 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: you realize that was just an awful idea, Like that 430 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: was an awful idea. His chance to succeed in New 431 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: York ended four plays. 432 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: Into the season. 433 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: When he first got there, it was over because then 434 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: everybody's timeline was off. 435 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: He was out for the year. 436 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: It was going to take him into the very next 437 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: year to try and get back to full health. And 438 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: by that time there had already been a coaching change 439 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 2: and all sorts of crap going on with the Jets. 440 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: That moment when he went down with the injury, it 441 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: was a wrap they were never going to get. You 442 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: needed everything to be perfect, You needed the timing for 443 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: everybody to be perfect. With a coach potentially on the 444 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: hot seat and a quarterback this late in his career, 445 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: and four plays into the season, the timing got thrown 446 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: off and it was a mess ever since then. It 447 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: was never going to work after that. 448 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: Who was that making the quote talking about it, Markschlairth, 449 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: Mark Sting. I just you know, for me, I always 450 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 3: think when when bad mouthing of an organization or of 451 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 3: a quarterback, excuse me, a coach, whatever it may be, 452 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 3: when that comes out after they've left, I just find 453 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: it to be disingenuous. I find it to be convenient, 454 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: and it doesn't hit the same. It just doesn't. If 455 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: you had these these feelings, and you had these these 456 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: conclusions and these thoughts, then let it out, let it 457 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: be made known, because after the fact, it's late. There's 458 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: no reason to give us, you know, that type of 459 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: information and and that have to be disseminated because conclusions 460 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: have already been been written, they've already been been drawn 461 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: that it's already happened. So I just feel like the 462 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers experiment in New York did not work and 463 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: it's over. Like what happens next? Does Justin Fields make 464 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: this New York Jets better a better team? Does Aaron 465 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: Rodgers make the Pittsburgh Steelers a better team? Again? This 466 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: is why the National Football League is the greatest reality 467 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: TV show that has ever existed. Oh, we put Aaron 468 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: Rodgers in one of the biggest media markets in the country, 469 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 3: in the world, and it didn't work out. But you 470 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 3: know what, Hey, let's put them in a different media market. 471 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: Let's see if it works out in Pittsburgh. Oh, now 472 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: we can cross reference and bring that back and wrap 473 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: it into New York City. Oh, we brought in Justin 474 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: Fields from Pittsburgh. He didn't get it done in Pittsburgh. 475 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 3: Let's take him out of that market. Let's put them 476 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: in New York. Now we got a cross referencing of stories. 477 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: How did this work? One side may do better, one 478 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 3: side may do worse. One player may do better, one 479 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: player may do worse. Both players may stink, both players 480 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: might be great. No matter how this all plays out, 481 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 3: the storyline still exists to be able to write them 482 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: in a very entertaining way, which is why the NFL 483 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: continues to win. 484 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: Do you think because the way Mark Schlaer kind of 485 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 2: laid it out was he reached out to Rogers and 486 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: noticed that there was some questionable decisions as far as 487 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: their scheming goes with the offensive line, and then Rogers 488 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 2: went on to vent about what it is that they 489 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: were doing. I just so, I don't know if it 490 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: was necessarily Rogers airing out the organization so much. I 491 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: think he did a lot of that on the Pat 492 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: McAfee show. 493 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: And he's about to say he has aired him out. Yeah, 494 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 3: that's not that won't be anything anything new, but go ahead. 495 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: I just. 496 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: Like we've seen this before to where like when the 497 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: cole tired Jeff Saturday, it was like, wow, this could 498 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: be cool. We were on the air. I think that 499 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: was our first year in the show together when the 500 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: Colt tired Jeff Saturday, and it was like, well, let's 501 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: see how this works. Let's see how this works, because 502 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: this is a bold, different approach. It doesn't feel like 503 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: it's gonna work, but let's just see. And they win 504 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: the first game and you're thinking to yourself, man, maybe 505 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: the Colts knew something. And then upon further review, the 506 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: idea was preposterous. It just didn't like it just it 507 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: just didn't like it was never gonna work because the 508 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: timing of everything, like you're you're asking a guy to 509 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: walk off a TV set and take over a team 510 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: that he hasn't been around, Like it was never gonna work. 511 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 2: But it didn't take until afterwards where all of your 512 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: initial thoughts were confirmed. And when Rogers joined the Jets. 513 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: I think I speak for a lot of people where 514 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: it was Okay, it's Rogers, it's the Jets. We've seen 515 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 2: this with Farv. It didn't work with him, It's never 516 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: seemingly worked with any quarterback with the Jets. But let's 517 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: give it a shot. And literally running out with the 518 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: American flag on Monday Night Football and four plays later 519 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: it was over. He was he was after that and 520 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: you know this from going through the Achilles injury. When 521 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: did he look close to himself? Even last year? 522 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I was geeking out was going to 523 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: come back this season? I watch I'm so excited for 524 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 3: this again, you and c If anybody can do, it's 525 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: going to be Aaron Rodgers. He's coming back. Did you 526 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: hear that he's coming back? He was on the field 527 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: before the game warming up. Is he going to suit out? 528 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: And now that you look back on it, now that 529 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm taking, like taking a step back, and I'm hearing 530 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: him vent to Mark Schlaret about the run game and 531 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: all these other I just realized, Man, that was it. 532 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: I remember where I was watching it when he went 533 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: down with the injury. I remember thinking to myself, Oh God, 534 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: there's no way it's going to be over this quick, 535 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: but then thinking, well, maybe he'll come back that year, 536 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: and maybe it'll be a bounce back year the year after. 537 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: It's like, no, the timeline got thrown off completely. You 538 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: needed everything to be perfect. You had the coach on 539 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: the hot seat, You had an organization who was desperate, 540 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: You had an owner who was desperate. You had a 541 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: quarterback who wanted to prove people wrong and move away 542 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: from his previous organization and do what the guy who 543 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: preceded him did in Brett Farbe, but do it differently. 544 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: And four plays in Gone, all but Gone, I completely 545 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: wiped out. 546 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: And it makes me. 547 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: Feel dumb that I was thinking this entire time while 548 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: Rogers is in New York like no, no, no, but 549 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: maybe but and it just dysfunction after dysfunction. It was 550 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: just it was never gonna work. The parents crazy. 551 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: It is so like this is like a one sided 552 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: rant going on right now, right like we're talking about 553 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: it from Aaron Rodgers' perspective. Imagine how you felt if 554 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: we're the New York Jet. Oh my god, like you 555 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: got some nerve to be talking about our your frustrations 556 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: about us? What about us? Aaron Rogers, You ever stopped 557 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: to think about the pain and heartache you caused us. 558 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: Take some cotton dorm responsibility over yourself. It's just like 559 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: your mother, lover. 560 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: It's like two hot heads dating each other. Like you 561 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: got two hot heads dating each other's where'd you guys 562 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: meet at a bar drinking? Oh well, yeah, everything will 563 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: be fine and they get married. It's a shotgun wedding, 564 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: they get married, and then you know, five six months later, 565 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it didn't work out. 566 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: No way, you don't don't have your wedding ring on. 567 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: Oh you don't say, it's like, what's going on here? 568 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: How's the missus what? 569 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: That's why, that's why I truly believe that Rogers in 570 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh will be better than Rogers in New York, just 571 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: because that situation was never gonna work, like, it was 572 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: never gonna happen. 573 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: Well, let's be clear here, Mike Tomlin knows he needs 574 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: to have a good year. There's no I mean, there's 575 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 3: no mistaken. He doesn't need a crystal ball or somebody 576 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: to tell him. He knows going into this he needs 577 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: to have a good year. Rogers feels the same way, 578 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: maybe doesn't feel as much of a sense of urgency 579 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: as it applies to what he needs to do, just 580 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: based off of the fact he's already had a first 581 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: ballot Hall of Famer career, but he's still playing, which 582 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: means that he still feels like there's something to prove. 583 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: And so you take that and you add in the 584 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 3: element of Mike Tomlin seemingly having a very very strong, 585 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: domineering type of personality and the way he runs his 586 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: team and how this thing is all, you know, kind 587 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: of constructed in Pittsburgh. It just appears that Aaron Rodgers, 588 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: while he will continue to still be a lightning rod 589 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: and still be a major topic of conversation from the media, 590 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: it just seems like this would be the right place 591 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: where a coach can handle the type of person and 592 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: the type of elements that come along with Aaron Rodgers 593 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: being on your team, and that could pay dividends for 594 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: both the team and for the player. But it could 595 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: also end very very bad. I mean, it also has 596 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: the potential of crashing and burning very badly as well. 597 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: So again, it's it's it's reality television, and it's must 598 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: see TV. I know I'm gonna be locked in. 599 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait. 600 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be locked I can't wait. 601 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: And it's also kind of leading to what you're saying. 602 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: It's two entities who've been through a lot of crap 603 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: the past couple of years, dealt with a lot of crap, 604 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: and they're probably like, look, can we just play ball? 605 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: Like I just want to play ball. I just I 606 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: want to go out. I want to play ball. I 607 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: want to have an understanding of what it is that 608 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: we're doing, and I don't want to deal with all 609 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: the chaos like that's it. That And and I think 610 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: that's probably good news for the Steelers who are probably 611 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: hoping for some good news, and you get justin fields 612 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: week one. It's great good for the NFL. 613 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 614 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 615 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 616 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 2: So there is maybe a little bit of a problem 617 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: going on in Seattle. 618 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: Now. 619 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: This is you know, there's just been some reports that 620 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: have come out of you know, Seahawks mini camp and 621 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: whatnot that maybe Sam Darnold has struggled a little bit, 622 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: you know, you struggling again. This is you know, mini camp, 623 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: these are OTAs, these are we're not even at training camp. 624 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: And some people have said it hasn't looked all that great. 625 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: He's trying to get adjusted to a new place, new system, 626 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: new teammates, all of that. And then there was the 627 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: report that came out from Mike Silver of The Athletic 628 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: who said the following quote, the Seahawks pursuit of Sam 629 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: Darnald snuck up on many nfl observers and proceeded in 630 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: rapid fire fashion. While some believed the Las Vegas Raiders 631 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: would try to sign Donald, minority owner Tom Brady, a 632 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: seven times Super Bowl winning quarterback whose opinion held great Sway, 633 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 2: was not in favor of that approach, according to a 634 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: source familiar with the franchise's internal discussions. So basically, Man, 635 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: the Raiders chose the player the Seahawks didn't want anymore, 636 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 2: and the Seahawks chose the player the Raiders didn't want. 637 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 3: So if they were aware of this, I mean at 638 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: least that who Tom Brady didn't want. 639 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: Look, we kind of throughout the question what's really the 640 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: difference between Geno Smith and Sam Donald? And if you 641 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: had to go by a body of work, who's done 642 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: it more? Smith has done more, Totally agree, Totally agree, and. 643 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 3: You don't really know what you're going to get from 644 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 3: Sam Donald because there's not enough of a sample size. 645 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 3: And that's just reality. Great great one season run and 646 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: really showed that being able to pull it together at 647 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 3: the right time can lead to opportunities. But that does 648 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 3: not necessarily mean that you've crossed the threshold of being 649 00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 3: you know what that what that positive season represented to 650 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 3: the entirety of your career. He's got to he's got 651 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 3: to go into Seattle knowing that if he you know, 652 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: if what he hasn't done already isn't enough for him 653 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: to be okay with himself as a career, he's he's 654 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 3: got to put together at least one to two more 655 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: seasons before you can He's got to put together this season. 656 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: Let's start there, before you can say he is a 657 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: legitimate good football player in the National Football League, like 658 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 3: it's stamped because he was able to do it two 659 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 3: years in a row. Anything after two years in a row, 660 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 3: it's okay. They've established themselves and and this is the 661 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 3: standard we've come to expect. This is the sample size. 662 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 3: And now you've earned whatever it is that you get 663 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 3: accolades wise, whatever the conversations are as it applies to 664 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 3: your contract, whatever it may be, those are now conversations 665 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: that are more comfortable to have versus feeling some type 666 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: of trepidation as it applies to how you feel and 667 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 3: how you say things about that player, in particular, in 668 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 3: this case it's Sam Donald. You don't know what you're 669 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 3: gonna get. Like as much as you may think you 670 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: can put together the pieces and say this is the 671 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: type of performances you're gonna get from Sam Donald in Seattle. 672 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 3: Sam Donald might have been able to pull together one 673 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: good season for a lot of good reasons. There's a 674 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: lot of weapons where he just came from and a 675 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: hell of a play caller. Does that mean that he 676 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 3: can do it again? Maybe? Does it mean that he 677 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 3: was able to leverage that to get a nice little payday? Absolutely? 678 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 3: And I just wonder I. 679 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 2: Wonder if the fact that Tom Brady's the guy who 680 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: basically said, nah, I don't think that's a good approach. 681 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 2: I just wonder if that's because, look, it was early 682 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 2: in Sam Donald's career, it was his rookie season. Brady 683 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: played him a couple of times. I wonder if that 684 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: there's either that that he sees and says that's not 685 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 2: the right approach for us, or if his feeling is, Look, 686 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 2: Sam Donald excelled last year for the most part because 687 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 2: of what he had around him. He's not going to 688 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 2: have that same supporting cast around him here. This doesn't 689 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: make a lot of sense for us to go this 690 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: direction and. 691 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 3: Smith. But but I will know. 692 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: But I think that there it. This would tell me, 693 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: This would indicate to me that they believe more in 694 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: Geno Smith's ability to lead that team and have success 695 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: than they do Sam Donald's. Because the difference in the 696 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: contracts is not you know, off the top of my head, 697 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: I think it's right around the same. Like there's not 698 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 2: there's not a huge difference in the money that's out 699 00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: there and. 700 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: The money I don't want it. Maybe Sam Darnold want 701 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: it more, I don't. I don't know, this is what 702 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 3: I do know. What I do know is that Geno 703 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 3: Smith is going to face a very difficult season. He's 704 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 3: going to to I mean, he's gonna he's gonna have 705 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 3: a hard time having a successful season as it stands 706 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 3: so far with what the Las Vegas Raiders are. Is 707 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 3: it possible it's possible that that Seattle is personnel wise 708 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 3: a better team right now than the Las Vegas Raiders. 709 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, maybe close in comp now. 710 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 3: I will say this, the one thing that's really truly 711 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: working against Geno Smith is the division that he's in. 712 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 3: It's an unforgiving division, and if you're not up to snuff, 713 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 3: it's going to show. 714 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: But wouldn't that lead also then to why maybe that 715 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: was part of the thinking as well too, Who gives 716 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 2: us a better shot in this gunslinger division? Sam Darnold 717 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: or Gino Smith like that? 718 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 3: I just think there's question marks on both of them, 719 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 3: don't I agree that. I don't know that. To be 720 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: honest with you, I don't know that there is a 721 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 3: lesser evil between the situation. For the simple fact, all 722 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 3: I'll say is, yes, Gino Smith has more experience, He's 723 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 3: played more, he has a larger body of work, and 724 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 3: he has done some pretty good things in Seattle. But 725 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 3: with that being said, again, I still think that there 726 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 3: are question marks in terms of is Geno Smith. I 727 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 3: went and labeled Geno Smith a top tier quarterback that 728 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 3: could take a team to the super Bowl, And whether 729 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 3: that's fair or unfair, I'm just basing that off of 730 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,479 Speaker 3: what I've seen thus far in his career and whether 731 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: it's the franchise that he started with being the reason why, 732 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 3: whatever it is that has led to him being in 733 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 3: the category he's in right now, He's not far removed 734 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 3: from the same category as Sam Donald. And so to me, 735 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 3: when you have these conversations like Tom Brady was out 736 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 3: on Sam Donald and you were in on Geno Smith. 737 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like, damn, unless Geno Smith 738 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 3: has a phenomenal year, a story like this pops back 739 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 3: up and then you could sit there and be like, well, 740 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 3: what does Tom Brady know about player decisions with as 741 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 3: it applies to coming to a team, Because to me, 742 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 3: when you start inserting Tom into the conversations as to 743 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 3: what decisions were taking place and how decisions have been made, 744 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 3: then now you got to ultimately judge him based off 745 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 3: of the results that take place from hearing about what 746 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 3: those decisions were. 747 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 2: Now, I would say this, and I've thrown out this 748 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 2: idea before, but of course it was dismissed because you know, 749 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: the disrespect that I'm shown on this show and at 750 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: this network is just revolting. But I've mentioned that they 751 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 2: should know, they shouldn't disrespect is good. They should know, 752 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: they should know that there there needs to be one 753 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 2: game on every NFL team schedule that's open for some 754 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: switching out if you will, some some juggling. 755 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 3: If you will switch Hitt. 756 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 2: And not even from a standpoint of well it can 757 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: be flexed out to this night or no, no, no, no, 758 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 2: I mean an entirely different matchup. When these two moves 759 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 2: were made, somebody should have stepped in and said, Raider Seahawks, 760 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: get it somewhere on the schedule. Somewhere on the schedule. 761 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 3: We need this to happen. 762 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: We want storylines, we want juice. That's the NFL's next 763 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 2: evolution in adjusting their schedule for entertainment purposes. Only if 764 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: they want to do it. Now, these two teams are 765 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: going to meet in the preseason, but it's the preseason game. 766 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: I'd love to see Pete Carroll have his starters in 767 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 2: until midway through the fourth quarter, just to see what happens. 768 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 2: I would love to see that. But all of the backstory, 769 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: now this added in that Tom Brady said no to 770 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 2: Sam Donald, but they traded for Geno Smith. Sam Donald's 771 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 2: now in Seattle. You've got Pete Carroll and Gino Smith, 772 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 2: former Seahawks who are now in Las Vegas. The NFL 773 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 2: needs to step in, get a pair of balls, and say, 774 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 2: you know what, broadcasting partners, fan bases, you're going to 775 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 2: need to have to wait. 776 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 3: A little bit. 777 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 2: We're going to open it up for one game on 778 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 2: the schedule each year for each team that we decide 779 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 2: after all the moves have been made where these teams 780 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: are going to be meeting up and where they play, 781 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 2: because I would love to see Raider Seahawks in the 782 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: regular season. What do you think about that, Levarrington. 783 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a creative way of being able to 784 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 3: approach your matchups and you can get more. You know, 785 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 3: I think the key to growing your audiences in this 786 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 3: day and age is fan interaction, you know, the engagement 787 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 3: and being able to engage in these types of conversations, 788 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 3: holding polls, getting feedback, you know, them having creative input 789 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 3: on different things such as this, like follow the storyline. 790 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 3: They always say, follow the storyline, and if the storyline 791 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 3: is giving you something like this, there's again I mean 792 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 3: you were able to They were able to do that 793 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 3: with Peyton and Tom Brady. Yeah, you know so, I 794 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 3: mean I don't see there being any issue with with 795 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 3: that being something that you would work to try to 796 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 3: get to or to actually implement, where you can say, 797 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 3: even if it's not a team that is in the division, 798 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 3: you're supposed to play out of division, we still want 799 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 3: to make this a game because the storyline connected to 800 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 3: it is super compelling and it would deliver in terms of, 801 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 3: you know, the build up to the game. Yeah, I 802 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 3: mean I just think think it's it's I think it's Yeah. 803 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 3: I think it's a good deal. 804 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 2: There's there's a lot. I mean, just think about what 805 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 2: you can do in Cleveland. Like you could have the 806 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 2: you could have the Browns face the highway patrol in 807 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 2: like week three, you know if your door might be 808 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 2: starting by then, so you can see that whole, you. 809 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 3: Know part, or just hold a scrimmage all together during 810 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 3: training camp. Don't the don't the policemen. Don't they have uh, 811 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 3: don't they have their own football teams? I believe, I 812 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 3: believe they have football teams. 813 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 2: So Ohio State Troopers versus versus the Browns. Uh, the 814 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 2: practice the practice team, the scout team. Fair enough, bam, 815 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 2: all right, no whistles. You get two extra steps to 816 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 2: the quarterback winner gets to pick the speed limit. All right, 817 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 2: tenning's on the line. I mean people will watch that, 818 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 2: as you telling me you would watch that. I'll be 819 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 2: all in that or a w NBA game if they may. 820 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 2: You got it, I'm taking I'm taking. Seeing if these 821 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 2: cats is gonna win. Yes, I'm telling you, and for 822 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 2: what is work, what it's work, I pay for that. 823 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 3: I go on pay per view to see if Cleveland's practiced, 824 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 3: how cleve this practice squad did against the State Troopers. 825 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 2: I mean you mentioned the coverage that would get. I mean, 826 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 2: everybody'd be there, Fox Barrett. 827 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 3: Everybody donate the proceeds to the State 828 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: Trooperswhere you go, Bam Barrett Sports