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Speaker 1: game and give you the predictions that you need before
Speaker 1: we get to that game. So that's everybody doing this morning,
Speaker 1: doing great, Derek, good, outstanding, good, good, wonderful, wonderful. All right,
Speaker 1: we got a lot that we're gonna get into today.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about some different things on the game. Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little game today. If see on. No,
Speaker 1: I think Camber has that ready for us, and I
Speaker 1: think Nick, I don't know. I think you have a
Speaker 1: story for us. Yeah, I got a story. You got
Speaker 1: a good story for us. Uh, debatable on that. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't ever like you don't tell bad stories. So, well,
Speaker 1: you have a story. It's a good one. Right, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell the story
Speaker 1: backwards today. Tell that should be interesting. Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting. Ends up being hate. When someone says that
Speaker 1: I got a good idea, you're like, hold on, let's
Speaker 1: we'll see. If you see, we'll see. All right. So
Speaker 1: let's let's get into the Cowboys and the Rams. Let's
Speaker 1: start first with some injury talk. Um, Dave, you have
Speaker 1: a look like you want to say something about injuries.
Speaker 1: So tell us what's going on with the injuries with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It's a very specific look. It's impressive that
Speaker 1: you know that. I know. Um, well, I think the
Speaker 1: big thing for this game as Shaun Lee, and this
Speaker 1: is one of those situations I'm just gonna try my
Speaker 1: best to predict the future. I think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: ruled questionable on today's injury report. I would imagine he'll
Speaker 1: either be limited or did not participate, And I don't
Speaker 1: think we'll know for sure what he's gonna do until
Speaker 1: ten thirty am on Sunday. You know, I would lean
Speaker 1: toward no, but he's an all pro and this isn't
Speaker 1: a serious, serious hamstring strain, so if he feels good
Speaker 1: on Sunday, they might let him go. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: really it's just like Odell Beckham, there's really no way
Speaker 1: to know for sure until he gets out there on
Speaker 1: Sunday and decides how he feels. So that's the big
Speaker 1: thing I think. I think everybody else on this team
Speaker 1: is going to be good to go. I know Cavon
Speaker 1: Frazier popped up as limited yesterday. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a big deal. Same thing with Jordan Lewis. I know
Speaker 1: they kind of limited him, but I think they feel
Speaker 1: good about his hamstring. Were you not at all? And
Speaker 1: I mean this question for all you guys, but were
Speaker 1: you all? Were you guys at all concerned that Lewis
Speaker 1: was not on the injury on Wednesday but then popped
Speaker 1: up yesterday as limited or do you just think it
Speaker 1: was one of those things they had to walk through
Speaker 1: so he wasn't limited for a walkthrough, but yited for
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly it. Yeah, I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to read between the lines a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I think it's more a case of all right,
Speaker 1: this is a full practice. We're not going to ask
Speaker 1: you to do the whole thing. But I get the
Speaker 1: feeling that they expect him to play. Okay, yes, um
Speaker 1: you're right, Nick, Cheeto, Cheeto. I don't think will be
Speaker 1: ready for this game, but I sort of went into
Speaker 1: this week thinking that, so no one Carroll, though no
Speaker 1: one Carroll will be there, he'll be available. Um, so
Speaker 1: you'll have the majority of your defensive backs I think
Speaker 1: are ready to go. Stephen Paia is another guy, But
Speaker 1: again I think that's just his life right now. I
Speaker 1: don't think, you know, I think he's probably gonna be
Speaker 1: limited most weeks and suit up on Sunday. I think
Speaker 1: the interesting thing for for Sean Lee and this team
Speaker 1: is what happens at linebacker. Do they did work out
Speaker 1: some guys? Do they sign anyone? Because if he doesn't go,
Speaker 1: now you're down and Hitchens is not going to play obviously,
Speaker 1: but Hitchens is getting better. There's a chance for Hitchens
Speaker 1: maybe next week, maybe maybe the week after what I'm hearing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, if Lee doesn't play, now you're down
Speaker 1: to four linebackers on the roster that they can go.
Speaker 1: Beef beef, Yeah, beef. I don't know. I talk about
Speaker 1: Keith Smith, the fullback beefy, Keith Smith coming back on defense.
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. I'm excited. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's actually gonna play in the game. Stakes Ober here,
Speaker 1: that is beef, right, Kent. I mean, without without Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: without Anthony Hitchins for this game, you're definitely limited. If
Speaker 1: Sean Lee can't go, you probably start. You start justin
Speaker 1: Durant at will you start, Jalen Smith at Mike Damien
Speaker 1: Wilson is your do everything, Sam Slash back up everywhere else.
Speaker 1: Kyle Wilber does what he can do. And then seriously,
Speaker 1: Keith Smith is probably your emergence Mary, you know Glass
Speaker 1: if ever, if something happens. Yeah, So my point was,
Speaker 1: I think that Shaun Lee could probably be active to
Speaker 1: even if he's not. Now I know that that's kind
Speaker 1: of he's not the easiest guy to probably to sit
Speaker 1: like in that situation. But but I think you might.
Speaker 1: It might be something where he could play or at
Speaker 1: least be active, dress out and see see if he
Speaker 1: can go. He can go because you don't have it's
Speaker 1: not like you're you're sitting another guy for him. Now
Speaker 1: the guy you're sitting is like a defensive end or
Speaker 1: corner or something like that. He did say, And I
Speaker 1: think I remembered you guys saying that. Sean said in
Speaker 1: the locker room earlier this week that the hamstring is
Speaker 1: one of those things where go either it fires or
Speaker 1: it doesn't. All right. It's not like, yeah, I can
Speaker 1: kind of do it. It's it's either it's firing or
Speaker 1: it's not. And if it's not, you just can't go.
Speaker 1: Here's a guy that decided not to play and with
Speaker 1: two million dollars sitting on the table and decided not
Speaker 1: to play because he couldn't go and uh, twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: season finale. So I mean, if he can't go, he
Speaker 1: can't go, right, not the you know, it's not like
Speaker 1: a sore ankle, like you can't shoot it up with
Speaker 1: a painkiller and go play through it. You can't run
Speaker 1: if your hamstrings not right, so so I don't know
Speaker 1: that if if that's the case, it would be hard
Speaker 1: to consider him the emergency, even if you know he
Speaker 1: would kind of like let him dress and then if
Speaker 1: it doesn't fire, it just doesn't fire in you, right,
Speaker 1: Keith Smith really is your only recourse unless you're gonna
Speaker 1: pull somebody up, right, which mark there's nobody to pull
Speaker 1: Martin Zaches of San Francisco forty nine ers they signed.
Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't have said pull up. You have
Speaker 1: to go and get somebody, which you have to go
Speaker 1: and find somebody in sign it's for Brinkley. Good luck
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, it's Friday. I think it's too late
Speaker 1: to do that and expect what they're doing. So um seriously,
Speaker 1: can't didn't bust a drop on you right there if
Speaker 1: Sean If Sean Lee can't go, I think you go.
Speaker 1: You go really light with four and then Keith Smith
Speaker 1: is there, right, they all stay out, just say it's
Speaker 1: the RAMS, dude, MS dude, not because that's not all right.
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about it in active. I think there
Speaker 1: are three and this is gonna sound weird, but I
Speaker 1: do think there are only three this week that I
Speaker 1: feel like there are no question marks about, and I
Speaker 1: want to get your opinions. You may think they're more,
Speaker 1: but I think there are three. Cooper Rush, Jonathan Cooper,
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins. I think we feel very certain that those
Speaker 1: three will not play this week. You got a running
Speaker 1: back debate you want to have or I kind of do? Okay,
Speaker 1: And here's the question I have about the running back position.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to do this or whatever it's
Speaker 1: worth about. Go ahead. I think that there is more
Speaker 1: that they can expect or want from their backup running back.
Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is because you
Speaker 1: do see on a lot of teams where even when
Speaker 1: you have a really good running back, the second guy
Speaker 1: comes in and when he gets an opportunity, he is
Speaker 1: able to give you a little something, a little something
Speaker 1: more than I think what we've seen from Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: here in these first couple of games. Do you guys
Speaker 1: agree with that premise first of all? And if so,
Speaker 1: do you think there's another running back on this team
Speaker 1: that possibly could give them a little bit more as
Speaker 1: the backup running back than what they're getting right now
Speaker 1: from Alfred Morris. It's like a trick question here. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just really I'm just asking because I
Speaker 1: think it's worth a discussion. Yeah, I think that the
Speaker 1: every team should play more than one running back. I
Speaker 1: believe that he is as great as Zeke is. I
Speaker 1: think he needs a little bit of relief now and
Speaker 1: then whoever it is, So are you Are you happy
Speaker 1: with what you're getting right now from Outfred Morris in
Speaker 1: that role. No, he hasn't done anything, so no, you
Speaker 1: can't be happy with it. They didn't even play him
Speaker 1: last week, you know, you know, I feel I think
Speaker 1: McFadden would be a better for this role and would
Speaker 1: I would rather see him in there. But I do
Speaker 1: even if it's Morris. I mean, whoever it is, I
Speaker 1: think I don't think Zeke should get every carry, get
Speaker 1: every rep. I mean, at least get a guy in
Speaker 1: there to block and just get him off the field something.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was stronger in the fourth quarter, but
Speaker 1: I still think that he needs a little bit of
Speaker 1: a break. But I would go McFadden if they do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna make change this week,
Speaker 1: but I would If you're not gonna play Morris at all.
Speaker 1: I think McFadden could give you a snap or two.
Speaker 1: I don't care about this. I mean that they clearly
Speaker 1: like Morris more than McFadden, and they didn't even play
Speaker 1: him last week. Like what am I supposed to make
Speaker 1: of that? I don't even you picked him, You specifically
Speaker 1: picked him, put him up and put McFadden down, and
Speaker 1: then didn't play him. You gave Rod Smith one one
Speaker 1: touch or one snap. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're doing there. I'm tempted to believe right now
Speaker 1: that that they want to keep McFadden fresh if they
Speaker 1: need him, if something happens with Zeke's legal issues. That's
Speaker 1: really because we still really don't know, because we don't
Speaker 1: um and there's gonna be a hearing on Monday, right
Speaker 1: or he's not a hearing or a decision. I don't know, No,
Speaker 1: not a decision. There's supposed to be a hearing. There's
Speaker 1: more developments to come, and everything they're doing a backup
Speaker 1: running back doesn't make sense to me. And I'm starting
Speaker 1: to think that they want to have McFadden fresh and
Speaker 1: healthy if they need him. Otherwise, none of this makes sense.
Speaker 1: Your backup running back is one of two guys that
Speaker 1: didn't get into that game on Monday. That doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense to me. Having said that, Zeke's an all pro,
Speaker 1: and I don't really care as the whole thing's dumb.
Speaker 1: This is matter to you, Amber, I mean, at this point,
Speaker 1: I just really believe that it they're relatively similar to
Speaker 1: each other with what they've done. I don't think one
Speaker 1: is really much better than the other one. So I'm
Speaker 1: good with either one. Honestly, they can do whatever there.
Speaker 1: I haven't been doing whatever they want. So if a
Speaker 1: guy that's not Ezekiel Elliott, it's gonna line up in
Speaker 1: the backfield and do running back stuff. I want to
Speaker 1: see more of Ryan Switzer back there as a shotgun guy.
Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. Yeah, let me ask you
Speaker 1: this question, as they start to kind of go through
Speaker 1: this and this whole thing with injuries and kind of
Speaker 1: figure out who's active who's inactive, if they get into
Speaker 1: a pinch, would there ever be the consideration on your part,
Speaker 1: like as far as you guys see it, and maybe
Speaker 1: sit down both those older guys and keep Rods Smith
Speaker 1: up because Rods, especially if they're not going to play
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris you know, Rod Smith's gonna play special teams
Speaker 1: take that extra spot and put it on another position,
Speaker 1: so at least you have an extra guy somewhere else
Speaker 1: where you may need it, because right now they're not.
Speaker 1: They didn't at least this last game, they didn't use
Speaker 1: that position. You're just asking for it though, that that
Speaker 1: is just asking it. That's when something bad happen. Thing
Speaker 1: face and then you don't have anyone, Well, you go
Speaker 1: with two. You go with two quarterbacks, right, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's why. And that right there is why Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore is the guy that's active and not Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: because they want the guy that's actually played in the
Speaker 1: NFL to have to go in if he has to.
Speaker 1: But worst case scenario, you lost both those running backs
Speaker 1: in the game, you still got Keith Smith that could
Speaker 1: played him in that role at times. I mean, you
Speaker 1: still got other options if you got into it like
Speaker 1: you just had to run somebody out there. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: if Zeke goes down, the likelihood of your offense being
Speaker 1: able to run the way it needs to no matter
Speaker 1: who those other three of those other three guys is
Speaker 1: in there, it's probably not going to be the same, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: we need to be able to run the football. See,
Speaker 1: I think if Zeke were to go down, either Morris
Speaker 1: or McFadden would be fine if he was given twenty carries.
Speaker 1: That's all that's there. Don't think Rod would would be
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know. I mean maybe, but if you
Speaker 1: don't have Morris or McFadden active, then you're talking about
Speaker 1: giving the ball either way. Keith or Rod. Those guys
Speaker 1: have combined for like three NFL carries. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: just gets not the experience makes me a little queasy. Okay,
Speaker 1: but all right, Um, it's one thing to have a
Speaker 1: thousand yard rusher as inactive, but to have two. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. I mean, they're keeping killing Moore a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. You think, No, they're not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: And not even with the running back position. If they're
Speaker 1: doing that with quarterback position, which I don't even want
Speaker 1: to get into, but you know how they are, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be over protective at quarterback. They're certainly not gonna
Speaker 1: do it at running back. All right, let's let's talk
Speaker 1: about the defensive end for the translation. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: you got two guys and there's one that will probably
Speaker 1: be inactive. Last week it was Charles Tapper. Any chance
Speaker 1: this week it's Taco Charlton or do you think they
Speaker 1: stick with keeping Tapper as the inactive guy? Taco. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna sit Taco. He's the first round pick.
Speaker 1: He needs snaps to get better. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: they'll do that. Yeah. I like it, can't can't pick it.
Speaker 1: You like Taco? I like it Taco. You think Taco
Speaker 1: got the happy fingers today? Yeah? I mean I think
Speaker 1: so he gives you. I think he's more, he's more versaally,
Speaker 1: can play a little bit more if you needed to.
Speaker 1: He has done some stuff on the inside, and this
Speaker 1: is all about the development with him. I mean, he
Speaker 1: needs to keep playing. This is your first round pick.
Speaker 1: Who's better right this second? It's probably it's probably you
Speaker 1: think it's tappering. I don't think there's probably about it.
Speaker 1: I think Tapper is a better player, right Why, He's
Speaker 1: done more, He's got an NFL sack, He's done more
Speaker 1: stuff in the two games that he's played. He's done
Speaker 1: more than Taco. Okay, I don't think he's clearly better,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter who's got more upside. I mean Tacco,
Speaker 1: I would have hope it has more upside, or you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have taken them where they did. So this isn't
Speaker 1: about who's going to start, and this is about who
Speaker 1: the backup is. I think you need to get that
Speaker 1: guy ready to play, keep him out there. I completely
Speaker 1: agree with you. I just think Tapper's better right now.
Speaker 1: But that's what happens when you draft a guy in
Speaker 1: the first try. You're gonna make him active, You're gonna
Speaker 1: give him every chance to get better. Tapper did a
Speaker 1: nice job of getting up the line that I mean,
Speaker 1: was it who was it? Eli? Yeah? I mean Eli
Speaker 1: said okay, like he wasn't gonna take a hit. I
Speaker 1: mean it wasn't like it was like the greatest play ever.
Speaker 1: But he did a nice job of getting up the field.
Speaker 1: And he's but I don't know if he's clearly better.
Speaker 1: Maybe he is. He's just done more than Tacco right now. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta get what you're saying, Nick, Like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: could say he's done more, he's got one more sack,
Speaker 1: but look at when you look at the body of
Speaker 1: body of work. I don't know if I agree that
Speaker 1: he's done more. I think they're about the same. And
Speaker 1: the discussion we just had about running back, I think
Speaker 1: it probably applies here to let's agree that there's not
Speaker 1: a spiritual difference. Let's let's do some blind taste testing.
Speaker 1: Then if they were just both dudes and one of
Speaker 1: them wasn't a first round pick, who would sit just no, Again,
Speaker 1: I think it would be based on whoever the coaches
Speaker 1: thought had the biggest like Nick was saying, whoever has
Speaker 1: the biggest potential to grow from being act and right?
Speaker 1: Whoever you think has the bigger upside between the two. Well,
Speaker 1: and you can only have so many guys active of
Speaker 1: the game. Okay, if the guy starts playing in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, who has a better chance to get hurt
Speaker 1: and get out of the game. I mean, who has
Speaker 1: a better chance? I mean, because I know this, every
Speaker 1: defensive end that was getting hurt, it wasn't Taco. He
Speaker 1: had a little bit of a back issue, but he
Speaker 1: practiced the next week, the next day he was like
Speaker 1: he was out there the whole time. You can't say
Speaker 1: that for Tapper, And so from a reliability standpoint, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's the edge would be Taco. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to arguing about backups here. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to hate on Taco Charlton because I think he's going
Speaker 1: to be a good player. I've defended him against people
Speaker 1: who think he's a bust already time and time again.
Speaker 1: But right now, I think Tapper is a better player,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with him being active because he's
Speaker 1: a first round pick. If he's going to live up
Speaker 1: to his potential, he needs to play and get better
Speaker 1: and on and at the end of the day, even
Speaker 1: if Tapper is better right now, it's a negligible difference
Speaker 1: to them. I mean, you know, Tapper's not von Miller,
Speaker 1: so I think that's the point. Yeah, if he has
Speaker 1: to set, that's fine, because you've spent a twenty eighth
Speaker 1: overall pick on Taco. Okay, let's move on to the
Speaker 1: cornerback position. The assumption is that at least one of
Speaker 1: these guys will be inactive Banaban, Wickery, um A Woozier
Speaker 1: or Carol. Which of those three do you assume is
Speaker 1: going to be inactive? Cheetah, Cheetah. And that's just because
Speaker 1: he's just not ready. The hamstring is just not ready.
Speaker 1: That's the vibe I get, and even if it is
Speaker 1: sort of ready, you've got to eat. It was out
Speaker 1: like three weeks of training camp, and then he comes back,
Speaker 1: he plays a game and a half and he gets hurt,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't think they want him to
Speaker 1: just rush anything back into it. So okay, um, and
Speaker 1: then that leaves you one more spot. Yeah, we're at six.
Speaker 1: So so Cooper Rush are running back, Jonathan Cooper, Anthony Hitchens,
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins, Alls, Tap ARLs Tapper, and then in Cheetah
Speaker 1: receiver Cheeto. I mean, I think it has to be Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it probably should be. I mean, in a
Speaker 1: nice play last week. But the thing about it is
Speaker 1: is that you know he had Terrence and he had
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler banged up. Uh, there haven't. I don't believe
Speaker 1: if they have Throw on the injury report this week,
Speaker 1: they're not really They're still practicing, so I didn't see
Speaker 1: him on the injury report. I think I just think
Speaker 1: six receivers is too many. I don't think you need
Speaker 1: that many in the game. Well, what about Sean Lee?
Speaker 1: Are we just assuming he's gonna be good? That's the
Speaker 1: other option is that? But I don't know that they're
Speaker 1: going to know that until Sunday morning. Right, Sure, So
Speaker 1: let's assume for a second. If he is the one,
Speaker 1: then obviously he's your seventh inactive Brown. If he's not,
Speaker 1: then who's your guy? Probably Noah Brown if Sean Lee
Speaker 1: can go. But I'm I'm I'm gonna be bold and
Speaker 1: say I think Sean Lee's gonna sit this week. I
Speaker 1: we'll see. I might be wrong, but okay, Michael fifty,
Speaker 1: I mean what else would Shaun Lee be? All Right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna go first break like DeMarcus Ware. Yeah. When
Speaker 1: we come back from our break, I have a couple
Speaker 1: of questions for you guys about the matchup. We'll get
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Speaker 1: think might be relevant. First question, who will be the
Speaker 1: bigger challenge? Where the cowboys this weekend? Aaron Donald or
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley? Wait? I didn't hear you what you say?
Speaker 1: I don't know they turn you off? Are you guys
Speaker 1: hearing her? I it sounds like your mic is off. Amber.
Speaker 1: That's okay, all right, Amber, said Gurley. I'll translate for Amber,
Speaker 1: since I speak Spanish. The best out of them there,
Speaker 1: you go. Good. Not that she's speaking Spanish. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Aaron Donald Donald. They do a pretty
Speaker 1: good job against most backs, I mean, and when they tackled,
Speaker 1: when they tackled, it they're final. What was going on
Speaker 1: in Denver. They didn't tackle well. They were getting to
Speaker 1: the football for the most part. But Donald's gonna be
Speaker 1: a tough one for him. Although your best tackler and
Speaker 1: best linebacker is a threat to not play in this
Speaker 1: game perfect, I mean, that's that's tricky. But I still
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Donald is one of the five best
Speaker 1: defenders in football right now. Like he's he's on that level,
Speaker 1: I really think, and like I'm in when I previewed
Speaker 1: their defense yesterday. He can play everywhere. So it sounds
Speaker 1: sexy to say, like Donald versus Martin, like move him
Speaker 1: over on Chaz Green. Let him let Chaz Green deal
Speaker 1: with that. And that could be really problematic. I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk about offensive line being a problem, not being
Speaker 1: able to get your running game going, that could be
Speaker 1: a big time problem. So a guy of that caliber
Speaker 1: who can get into the backfield the way he can,
Speaker 1: has a chance to mess up your whole offense. And
Speaker 1: you know, the defense has been really, really good through
Speaker 1: three weeks, but I still think of the offense as
Speaker 1: the reason why this team is going to win games.
Speaker 1: So I'm more worried about something disrupting the offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you made a stop point there because one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that Nick you talked about it the
Speaker 1: day after the game. One of the reasons why they
Speaker 1: had such a problem in Denver was because Sean Lee
Speaker 1: had his worst game. I don't think that was a coincidence.
Speaker 1: And so you now play without Lee. How does that
Speaker 1: affect their ability to be able to stop the run
Speaker 1: because he is such a big part of your run defense.
Speaker 1: So I think that's something to be to be concerned
Speaker 1: about a little bit, because you are talking about a
Speaker 1: really good running back here, who is every game the
Speaker 1: season's gotten a little bit better than he did the
Speaker 1: week before. I think that's something definitely gonna be concerned about.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad point. Then the difference is too,
Speaker 1: is I mean why the pick for Girley makes sense too,
Speaker 1: is that you're combating that with maybe an injured Shaun Lee,
Speaker 1: if if him at all. Aaron Donald is going to
Speaker 1: face the best guard in football this week. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Donald versus Zach Martin. You've got same draft, right,
Speaker 1: I mean you've got two picks apart. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe three. I mean these guys are you know, they're
Speaker 1: the best at what they do. Right now, they got
Speaker 1: one of the young just dominating quick off the ball
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. And I thought about something else too last night. Actually,
Speaker 1: I was watching they got DeMarcus Ware doing all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff on I guess it was NFL Network, And uh,
Speaker 1: he said, this, this four three defense, this three four
Speaker 1: D defense is really like a four to three. He's
Speaker 1: playing it like like Wade is playing this like a
Speaker 1: four to three. It's not really like a three or four. Really,
Speaker 1: everybody's at the line. And I was like, well, Dave
Speaker 1: said that, and then William mc ginnis comes over and says, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, Yeah, you can try to play like
Speaker 1: the Broncos did, but not everyone has the personnel for that.
Speaker 1: It's just like that. We said that too, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna be on the NFL network next week. We're smart.
Speaker 1: They just listen to what we say and then they
Speaker 1: turn it into a segment the Rams. The Rams do
Speaker 1: not have the secondary of the Broncos or even the
Speaker 1: even they don't have one of one cornerback caliber of
Speaker 1: those cornerbacks in down that's altitude won't be the same
Speaker 1: there at the state. It's some different we do not
Speaker 1: open the roofing. No, No, WHOA why it's not cool enough.
Speaker 1: It'd be like eighty degrees. Let's go. We don't need
Speaker 1: all that all right. Here's the next question. Sammy Watkins
Speaker 1: is a full go from from the concussion protocol. Does
Speaker 1: he change your thoughts on Dallas's chances for success? Now
Speaker 1: Here are some of his numbers from the first two
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Week one, he had five catches
Speaker 1: fifty eight yards. Week two, he had two catches for
Speaker 1: thirty yards. Here's the big one. Last week against San Francisco,
Speaker 1: he had six catches for one hundred and six yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns with a forty seven yard long catch,
Speaker 1: and his average was seventeen point seven yards per catch.
Speaker 1: Does that change anything about how you feel about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys chances for success against this team? No, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why. Ye. Larry Fitzgerald caught fifteen passes for
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty six yards and a touchdown. Arizona
Speaker 1: still didn't break twenty points. I think a big part
Speaker 1: of that is because they couldn't run the ball. So
Speaker 1: I still look at Todd Gurley. If Todd Gurley is
Speaker 1: doing his thing, then it's all that doesn't matter anyway.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be rough, I think, but this team can
Speaker 1: absorb passing games like that. That's what they did against
Speaker 1: the Cardinals like there. I mean, this isn't the Broncos.
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna give up some chunk plays. They've given up.
Speaker 1: They've given up chunk passing plays in two of the
Speaker 1: three games so far, and they did it all last year.
Speaker 1: It's a matter of not allowing it to turn into touchdowns.
Speaker 1: So Sammy Watkins will probably have some decent production in
Speaker 1: this game, if I had to guess. But if you're
Speaker 1: doing a good job against early, that doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think he's done a nice job
Speaker 1: of coming in and being productive early. Usually when you
Speaker 1: get traded like that, you know at the time that
Speaker 1: he did. It takes a long time for these guys
Speaker 1: to kind of develop into that system. But they've done
Speaker 1: a good job with him quickly. He's been a factor.
Speaker 1: So um, But I don't I don't think it'll be
Speaker 1: a big issue. I mean, you know, they they've got
Speaker 1: some weapons. I mean, I'm always scared of the little
Speaker 1: speedy guys. I think if Austin is doing some things
Speaker 1: that could be tough. Who else did you say? Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup Cup Robert Woods is the other guy they got
Speaker 1: from Mob Buffalo who's played pretty decent for him this year.
Speaker 1: But you know this solid, This is like the Falcons
Speaker 1: game from two years ago. You know, if DeVante Freman
Speaker 1: just went off and they couldn't stop him. So if
Speaker 1: girls like that where they're having a hard time, then
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna look good. Everyone's gonna get in the mix
Speaker 1: and and make plays. But I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. I think Shanlee's gonna play. I really do.
Speaker 1: I think he will play in this game. I saw
Speaker 1: him yesterday on the field pretty good. I just looked
Speaker 1: at it like, okay, that's Thursday. I think you'll play.
Speaker 1: I mean, all pros played by a different set of
Speaker 1: rules from everybody else. Like h Like I said, you
Speaker 1: never want to bet against him? Yeah? And were you
Speaker 1: concerned about the secondary against a guy like Sammy Watkins? No?
Speaker 1: I think WHOA that really loud? That's good? Okay, Sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: I just sound really really loud online. Anyways, I think
Speaker 1: they'll be fine. Um, I've all my prediction. I mean
Speaker 1: My guess is that this game is gonna rely on
Speaker 1: both offenses. Cowboys offense and the Rams offense. They're both
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. I just think they won't be
Speaker 1: good enough to the point to beat the Cowboys. But
Speaker 1: having him how he is right now, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about him. Okay, all right, final question. If Dallas loses
Speaker 1: this game, the thing that will have been the biggest
Speaker 1: problem will be one couldn't stop the run, Two couldn't
Speaker 1: run themselves, or three gave up too many big plays.
Speaker 1: If they lose this game, I'm going one like if
Speaker 1: I mean they couldn't stop Girly. If Gurly really goes
Speaker 1: off and I mean one hundred and twenty rushing yards,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns and then another you know, four or five receptions.
Speaker 1: You know, if he's got one hundred and fifty all
Speaker 1: purpose yards and helps them get to twenty twenty seven
Speaker 1: thirty points something like that, I could see that being
Speaker 1: a hard hold to dig out of, especially if they
Speaker 1: get up on them early. That would surprise me because
Speaker 1: the Rams defense isn't overly impressive. But if it's another
Speaker 1: situation where they can just tee off on Dac and
Speaker 1: the run game isn't as as important as it is
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys if they aren't allowed to lean on
Speaker 1: it that way, I could see that being a problem. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think it's the second one. I guess they can't
Speaker 1: run it because if they can't run, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: allow it's gonna allow the Rams to kind of do
Speaker 1: some things. They're gonna have good field position, the Rams
Speaker 1: are gonna be able to be, you know, more flexible
Speaker 1: in what they do in their play calling. I think
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys can't run, then that's where the issues are.
Speaker 1: But if they run the football like I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to run it, then I don't think
Speaker 1: Girley will even get you know, I don't think Girley
Speaker 1: will be a huge factor in the running game. He'll
Speaker 1: still be out there as a pass catcher. But I
Speaker 1: think it's all gonna be about the Cowboys run. If
Speaker 1: they don't run the football, then it's gonna open up
Speaker 1: other things. That's a tough one. I'm in between the
Speaker 1: first two. I believe it would be more tours Cowboys
Speaker 1: not being able to run the ball. Girly. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of concerned, especially with the whole shanleee thing if he's
Speaker 1: not there and stuff. But at the same time, I'm like, ah,
Speaker 1: there's too much fuss around him, kind of expecting the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to be able to hopefully stop him. But I
Speaker 1: would say most likely would be because Zeke wasn't able
Speaker 1: to be as productive as we expect him to be.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a coincidence that the game
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys the worst game we've seen the Cowboys
Speaker 1: play in a year, and however many games, three games
Speaker 1: this season, happened in a game where they could not
Speaker 1: run the ball, And so I think that everything everything
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do results from how they run the ball.
Speaker 1: They can't run the ball. I don't think they pass
Speaker 1: as effectively. I don't think they play defense as effectively.
Speaker 1: I think running is what they do, and if they
Speaker 1: can't do that, everything else suffers. And so I think
Speaker 1: in every game it's probably the same. That would probably
Speaker 1: be the same answer for me, unless proven otherwise. That
Speaker 1: would be the same answer for me, probably for every
Speaker 1: game that unless they can run the ball, all bets
Speaker 1: are off, because when we've seen them run it effectively,
Speaker 1: they tend to win. When we've seen them not run
Speaker 1: it effectively. They struggle and a pretty convincing argument, and
Speaker 1: so I think that's really kind of what it comes
Speaker 1: down to this week and probably for a few weeks
Speaker 1: to come right. All right, Nick, it's all just before
Speaker 1: the show or in the first segment, you told us
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell us a story, and you actually told
Speaker 1: us you're gonna tell us a story backwards, which I
Speaker 1: don't really understand how that works, but I'm assuming you're
Speaker 1: about to let us convinced it's gonna work. All right,
Speaker 1: So let's let's go back. This is um six years ago. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is beautiful. I love the music. Okay, So the
Speaker 1: monday you've got this is the monday after the game
Speaker 1: they played against the Rams. Okay, Jason Garretts walking in
Speaker 1: the hall, he sees one of these veteran scout Chris
Speaker 1: Hall has been around forever, seez Chris Hall and says, hey, Chris,
Speaker 1: I thought about you all day yesterday when what an
Speaker 1: awesome game. Congratulations to the scout, and the scout was
Speaker 1: kind of taken back, gives him a high five and says, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was great, coach. Things. So that goes Sunday, we'll
Speaker 1: take reverse it back into Sunday. DeMarco Murray against the Rams.
Speaker 1: Two hundred and fifty three rushing yards against the Rams.
Speaker 1: It's just me and New because everyone else is on
Speaker 1: the front. But yeah, right, two hundred and fifty three
Speaker 1: yards for DeMarco Murse set the Cowboys all time rushing record,
Speaker 1: I mean for a single game, ninety one yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable and came out of nowhere, didn't even
Speaker 1: start the game. So that takes the reason why Garrett
Speaker 1: had said that to Chris Hall as it goes back
Speaker 1: to the previous April as in the draft, because they
Speaker 1: had him rated up high as we need a high
Speaker 1: second round pick, and here they are early in the
Speaker 1: third round and he's the best guy on the board.
Speaker 1: But Jason's getting a little antsy because Stephen Ridley from
Speaker 1: LSUS there and maybe we take him, and he looks
Speaker 1: pretty good, and he's you know, Jason just can't make
Speaker 1: a decision sometime. Well, Chris Hall is getting upset because
Speaker 1: it's like, this is why we have one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty seven meetings. He's up there, he's the guy. Let's
Speaker 1: take him. We don't need to call Barry Switzer anymore.
Speaker 1: He's the guy, you know, let's take him. And the
Speaker 1: clock's running down. They're on the clock. Garrett turns, looks
Speaker 1: at Jason Garrett. I mean, he looks at Chris Hall
Speaker 1: and says, we're in the meadow Lands, January, first, fourth
Speaker 1: and one on the goal line. Does he score? And
Speaker 1: Chris stands up and goes, listen, because this is twenty
Speaker 1: and eleven. They've just taken Tyron Smith. He's like, listen,
Speaker 1: you give him the damn ball. Run his ass behind
Speaker 1: the guy you just draft, and he'll score every time.
Speaker 1: And then Jason Garrett just turns in the card and says,
Speaker 1: de Marco Murray and that's that's. There we go, and
Speaker 1: there we go, and it worked out and that was
Speaker 1: a big you know when you're a young scout like that,
Speaker 1: or he is a young scout, but he you know,
Speaker 1: any scout and you get a win like that. And
Speaker 1: then then Garrett remembers what six months later he scores.
Speaker 1: He's thinking about that guy that told him, you know,
Speaker 1: the NFL draft, that was a great story told backwards.
Speaker 1: That was a good job. There you go. The NFL
Speaker 1: Draft is just the best because there's a story like
Speaker 1: that for every player, even the ones that don't turn
Speaker 1: out to be good. But it's even better when the
Speaker 1: guy actually turns out to be an All Pro and
Speaker 1: an Offensive Player of the Year. And it's really interesting
Speaker 1: when you start and I know you guys have heard
Speaker 1: some of the footage. I know it was. There have
Speaker 1: been times when I've been able to kind of be
Speaker 1: a fly on the wall to hear some of the
Speaker 1: things that are being talked about inside the war room
Speaker 1: and how they they make, some of the picks that
Speaker 1: they make, and it's just to me, it's really fascinating
Speaker 1: just how some of this cut goes down. It's not
Speaker 1: as as clear cut as people think it is all
Speaker 1: the time. There's a lot of discussion that happens. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are involved in those discussions.
Speaker 1: Really fascinating. Let's shamelessly plug ourselves and our guy, Knt
Speaker 1: Garrison for a minute, who went and for the Dak
Speaker 1: humentory that we made, went and found that war room
Speaker 1: footage and he showed it to me, and it's like
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett talking about how Dak processes defenses and how
Speaker 1: he throws and all this type of stuff. And Kent
Speaker 1: was like, you think we can use this, and I
Speaker 1: was like, would be better? No. Well, I was like,
Speaker 1: there's no way they're gonna let us use that, and
Speaker 1: Kent was like, I'm gonna ask anyway, and sure, now
Speaker 1: here we go made it into our movie and it
Speaker 1: was freaking awesome. But that's the thing, Like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: Barry Switzer, but when in that draft, I remember I
Speaker 1: was actually I was in another part of the building
Speaker 1: and we were taping some stuff from the war room,
Speaker 1: and so I heard a part of that call when
Speaker 1: they talked to Barry Switzer about DeMarco Murray and him
Speaker 1: kind of tell them that you know, this guy's legit.
Speaker 1: You take him, you're gonna be happy with him, and
Speaker 1: just kind of selling them on it. But that's the thing.
Speaker 1: There's so many opinions that happen that are given about
Speaker 1: players as they make a decisions. It's not as simple
Speaker 1: as like you know people think about their fantasy draft.
Speaker 1: They just think you look on your on your own
Speaker 1: little sheet and you say, okay, I'll take this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot more than that that goes into it
Speaker 1: on draft day, not just all the stuff before which
Speaker 1: we all know, but on draft day, it's a lot
Speaker 1: more complex than that. Yeah, because because this is the
Speaker 1: ultimate keeper League, right yeah, really, they stay with you.
Speaker 1: That's the reason that I just said that real quick,
Speaker 1: that story and how it pertains is that Zeke's gonna
Speaker 1: break that record this weekend. But that's really why I
Speaker 1: did that. So he's gonna go for two sixth Oh,
Speaker 1: we got a crazy prediction right now? What do you have, Dave? Oh?
Speaker 1: I just it's funny because that is the way a
Speaker 1: lot of fans approach it is. They're like, we need
Speaker 1: a cornerback, look down the list of names, and like, little,
Speaker 1: who's our top guy at cornerback? Little? Do they know
Speaker 1: the guy that they're pounding on the table demanding the
Speaker 1: Cowboys draft has been off their board for like eight
Speaker 1: weeks for whatever reason. Right, Yeah, it's way more complicated
Speaker 1: than it looks. Absolutely all right, let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: real quick take our final break. When we come back,
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Speaker 1: that set up for us. We'll also take some questions,
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. I thought somebody would have
Speaker 1: something to say about it. I'm trying to see if
Speaker 1: we can just get through it. Tommy John read without
Speaker 1: it being a thing. Okay, I guess we did that time.
Speaker 1: We got through it without saying something else. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go. We're gonna have a game. And can you
Speaker 1: hear me? Okay what I was checking it? You're back
Speaker 1: on now? Yeah? Yeah, all right? Good? What do you
Speaker 1: have for us? Okay you guys ready see ready? The
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence and again these are all just random and
Speaker 1: some of them are just kind of guessing. So anyways,
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence keeps his sack sack streak going. Why
Speaker 1: is that funny when you say sack streak, we're talking
Speaker 1: about multiple sacks in a game. Well, I'm still thinking
Speaker 1: about Tommy John. Wow, I guess we didn't get mine
Speaker 1: out of the gutter. All right. He keeps his little
Speaker 1: streak going, Wow, this is just that's worse, all right,
Speaker 1: he keeps his streak of multiple multiple sacks per game.
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? Okay, all right, so I say, see, no,
Speaker 1: see he gets I think he's gonna get one. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, no, no way, for a month.
Speaker 1: Only been one that's done it in the history, a
Speaker 1: month's worth. I don't know. It's one of one of those.
Speaker 1: It's one of the two. I don't know. I thought
Speaker 1: I remembered you saying that two in the press box
Speaker 1: when you're talking to remember which one. It's a hair thing,
Speaker 1: you know, realize all three of these guys have some much. Yeah, Demarker,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, he's got some hair. Gastinel Green, Gastel had longer.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what, Oh it was the long the
Speaker 1: end dark here. Yeah, I'm going one sack, one sack,
Speaker 1: not too not too amber. We'll seek play like seek again.
Speaker 1: What is like Zeke. You didn't think he played like
Speaker 1: Zeke last week? We're talking about twenty sixteen, seek like, yes,
Speaker 1: he was, d Zeke, this is this is gonna be
Speaker 1: the best rushing day of the year so far. See
Speaker 1: see it's gonna look like it's gonna look good to see.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. Hey, real quick, before you
Speaker 1: got the next question, what do you guys think of
Speaker 1: was Zeke? You said yesterday in the locker room about Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he's asked about you know, what do you say
Speaker 1: to people who who say you've you've lost a step?
Speaker 1: And he said, shut up? What do you guys think
Speaker 1: about that? Ah? I thought it was kind of funny,
Speaker 1: but I think, um, you know, the critics who say
Speaker 1: that he's got maturing to do, like, I mean, that
Speaker 1: doesn't paint him as like the most mature guy in
Speaker 1: the world in my opinion. I mean, it's it's funny
Speaker 1: and I think it's harmless. But but at the same time,
Speaker 1: I think he's been hearing that a lot, right, seeing
Speaker 1: that a lot, and he gets to a point like
Speaker 1: it's hard to keep your mouth shut when people are
Speaker 1: coming at you. You know. Well, that's also my question, like,
Speaker 1: do you think it bothers him. Do you think that, yes,
Speaker 1: this bothers it? Yes, yeah. I can't believe I just
Speaker 1: said yeah, yeah. I'm sure it does bother him. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not gonna say it because I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it sounds arrogant, but I'm sure it's frustrating not
Speaker 1: just balling out for one forty every week like he
Speaker 1: did last year. You know, like you get used to that.
Speaker 1: I hate questions like that. I don't even know who
Speaker 1: asked that, And I've gotten in trouble before by saying
Speaker 1: by saying that, you know, when I don't know who,
Speaker 1: and then you find out it was some one of
Speaker 1: your friends. No, I find out it was other people.
Speaker 1: But I just don't like that. I don't like that
Speaker 1: question because it's like, you know, people are saying people
Speaker 1: like who, Like that's when Zeke should be like, who
Speaker 1: are you saying it? Are you saying? Are you calling
Speaker 1: me fat? Because they do that all the time, Like
Speaker 1: there's people that are saying that you've done this, or
Speaker 1: people are saying you guys quit on that. But are
Speaker 1: you saying he's fat? Right now? He's too fat? I
Speaker 1: don't think he's fat for whatever. No, but I'm torn.
Speaker 1: I'm torn between thinking it's funny and wanting football players
Speaker 1: to say funny things and being like, come on, zee,
Speaker 1: you don't need that sound bite. But whatever. Oh well,
Speaker 1: well you know shut people up then too. That's another
Speaker 1: way to run by people and score. And I thought
Speaker 1: it was pretty interesting the game, the thirty yard run
Speaker 1: he had last week. When you think back to other
Speaker 1: times this last season, he breaks free, I mean he's
Speaker 1: going to the house. I mean there's there's nobody that's
Speaker 1: gonna catch him. That's his mentality. He's his speed guy,
Speaker 1: and he's even though he looks big, he is big.
Speaker 1: He can run. But go back to that game, he
Speaker 1: was looking for cuts. He was looking for ways that
Speaker 1: he could he wasn't gonna get caught from behind it
Speaker 1: because he had he had the ability to go, but
Speaker 1: he didn't think he could get there, so then he
Speaker 1: started making cuts and all that. That to me tells
Speaker 1: me that either that particular play he couldn't go all
Speaker 1: the way, or he doesn't feel like he's got the speed.
Speaker 1: Because the speed guy's getting the open field like that
Speaker 1: that they're they're gone. When they start looking around, then
Speaker 1: that they they're like, all right, I gotta cut here,
Speaker 1: and I gotta take angles away from people. But the
Speaker 1: fast guys don't really worry about that. I'd like to
Speaker 1: look at that play kind of believe that, But I
Speaker 1: also think that there's a part of that that you
Speaker 1: might be missing that maybe he thought a guy had
Speaker 1: an angle. Yeah, I want to look at that. That's
Speaker 1: less about his own his own speed and more about
Speaker 1: I think this guy's got the angle on me, so
Speaker 1: let me try to make a move so I can, yeah,
Speaker 1: make as much out as I can. That run was
Speaker 1: like from inside their own twenty right. It was kind
Speaker 1: of back on that side. Not a lot of players
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Tyreek Hill comes to mind, but there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of players in the NFL that are
Speaker 1: going to house the ball from eighty five yards away,
Speaker 1: like just but Zeke is one of those. Would you
Speaker 1: not last year you don't think he was that kind
Speaker 1: of guy. He had a couple of sixty yard yes,
Speaker 1: that's it wasn't like they were gonna catch him in
Speaker 1: the last ten or fifteen if it would have been
Speaker 1: eighty five. From my memory, the one he had against Detroit,
Speaker 1: he had to dive into the end zone to get
Speaker 1: there in front of the guys. That one he had
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati, he ran straight up the middle and just
Speaker 1: ran everybody right train size hole down the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. And it was Yeah, but I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the speed of the secondary to close on him. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like he was way faster than they were. You're
Speaker 1: running that far, I think, Okay, I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna when you're running that far. I think as soon
Speaker 1: as maybe ten yards away, the guy that's falling Zeke
Speaker 1: or they're running, it's not gonna catch up. They usually
Speaker 1: give up when they're that far. I still, I guess
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is I don't think of
Speaker 1: him as a as like a ball. I just don't
Speaker 1: think of him as a burner, like that guy that's
Speaker 1: definitely always going to get away from the defense. He
Speaker 1: can do it and has done it on occasion. But
Speaker 1: that's not that's not the strength of his games. I
Speaker 1: get your point. I mean, basically, what you're saying is
Speaker 1: he's not He's not that guy that's that His game
Speaker 1: is predicated on speed, right, It's like a combination of things,
Speaker 1: and he has good speed, but he's not like the
Speaker 1: game's not just predicated. The Cincinnati play, he literally took
Speaker 1: the ball, went right up the middle, didn't have to
Speaker 1: change course or anything. This Arizona play, he's making a
Speaker 1: man missing the hole, he's cutting, he's you know this
Speaker 1: is obviously semantics, but yeah, probably and I canna score.
Speaker 1: I don't think of Twitter. I just pull up Zeke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cardinals thirty. And I don't think he's a step slower
Speaker 1: because he didn't score on that play. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: he could of they were and they were close. Twenty
Speaker 1: seven was closing in on him. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: he probably made the right decision breaking out to the outside.
Speaker 1: You know, it's probably the right thing to do. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get the next question. He's fine. Do you guys
Speaker 1: think that they will run any wildcat plays with Switzer?
Speaker 1: No wildcat O, Your wildcat is back that. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: he is the guy. I mean, the wildcat started when
Speaker 1: you have quarterbacks that aren't very athletic and you need
Speaker 1: some kind of ways to trick it up. But when
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback who can run and throw, I
Speaker 1: mean that touchdown that he had was a wildcat type
Speaker 1: of play. So I don't I could see some different
Speaker 1: types of plays with Switzer, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's necessarily wildcat. I say, no, I'm not trying yeah, no, sorry,
Speaker 1: not trying to take it. Is Whitnen's blocking becoming a liability, No,
Speaker 1: I don't call it a liability. Watch the touchdown, the
Speaker 1: one that Zeke's last touchdown that that was a really
Speaker 1: nice play by all three of those guys on the
Speaker 1: right side. Liability means he's hurting the team. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's blocking is hurting the team now, I don't.
Speaker 1: I also, I'm not one that believes that that Jason
Speaker 1: Witten as a blocker is as good as Jason Witten
Speaker 1: the blocker five years ago. But I don't think he's
Speaker 1: a liability, not at all. He definite he had a
Speaker 1: play in that game where he let up on a
Speaker 1: block that resulted in not as good of a game
Speaker 1: that it could have been. Right, I don't think of
Speaker 1: him as a liability either. He's just a He's an
Speaker 1: all around good player. He's not Martellis Bennett in the
Speaker 1: run game like, He's not this just maller tight end
Speaker 1: block right. And you know, over the time that I've
Speaker 1: been here, he's probably good for a flag or so
Speaker 1: every game or two. I mean, you know, you hear,
Speaker 1: you get he gets flagged on a somewhat regular basis,
Speaker 1: But you overlook those things because he's he is a
Speaker 1: damn good all around player. I certainly don't think of
Speaker 1: him as a liability at all. I think when guys
Speaker 1: get older in their career, they or not even older.
Speaker 1: I mean when they're trying to get off the ball
Speaker 1: so quick that that that's going to happen. I mean
Speaker 1: you were trying to anticipate. Because he knows that he
Speaker 1: going up against defensive ends that are twenty four to
Speaker 1: twenty five years old. I mean, he's gotta take every
Speaker 1: half second he can. And you know, but von Miller
Speaker 1: does the same thing as far as like I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta do this and results in a flag, of
Speaker 1: results in a flag. But I think I think those
Speaker 1: penalties have gone up for Witten as the years have
Speaker 1: gone up here, it makes sense, But your makes liability, No,
Speaker 1: not at all. I don't think. I think a liability
Speaker 1: is a way too strong word for that. Um. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I think I think they're plays. I mean,
Speaker 1: you go back to every game you can find plays
Speaker 1: where his blocking isn't the greatest and so, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it's when you look at the whole full
Speaker 1: picture of what he does and especially their ability to
Speaker 1: kind of that's the thing like when some guys come
Speaker 1: in the game, you pretty much know what they're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing. You know, if ja if Hannah comes in
Speaker 1: the game, you know what he's going to be doing.
Speaker 1: The fact that Jason Witten is a versatile tight end
Speaker 1: that can block and catch passes and do both of them, well,
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes him special. So no way
Speaker 1: would end and there's still not many tight ends in
Speaker 1: the game that are getting open enough like as receivers,
Speaker 1: but then go to the line of scrimmage and play
Speaker 1: that way, right. I think Kelsey's a good blocker, okay,
Speaker 1: think and I think that's what's kind of the same thing,
Speaker 1: the same thing as Jason though it's it's he's an
Speaker 1: okay blocker, But how many how many tight ends you
Speaker 1: put him on a defensive end and they're gonna really
Speaker 1: be able to block that guy, Like that's already a mismatch, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did you watch the game late enough last night
Speaker 1: to hear Romo talking about Winton. Yeah, that was pretty
Speaker 1: cool about how good, like how he could have been
Speaker 1: he was the beneficiary, Yeah, but he was. But he
Speaker 1: was talking about like how on third and eight He's like,
Speaker 1: I know this is an eight yard comeback route, but
Speaker 1: run it past the sticks. And Nance said he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Witten did that a few times, like yeah, understatement, yeah, romo. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you every time. It was a good chance
Speaker 1: to watch and listen to him even more. And he's
Speaker 1: he's he's really good. I mean, he's just really good
Speaker 1: at what he's doing. I mean, this is this is
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to be doing. I think. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not. It wasn't a great quarterback,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying at this stage, I think this
Speaker 1: is this is perfect for him. He actually like he
Speaker 1: really enjoys it too. Sorry, no, I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I actually think when Saul sitting down, I'm talking twenty
Speaker 1: thirty years from now, he will be more remembered as
Speaker 1: a commentator than he will as a quarterback. And that
Speaker 1: says a lot because I mean, think about John Madden.
Speaker 1: John Madden won a Super Bowl as a coach. I
Speaker 1: think most people today know him more for Madden the
Speaker 1: Game and for and as a commentator than they do
Speaker 1: with him as a coach. And that's what I that's
Speaker 1: the point I'm making is I think he will be
Speaker 1: so good at that that his legacy will be more
Speaker 1: around the fact that he was a really, really great commentator.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but because that's what people you know, young people,
Speaker 1: that's how young people relate to older players. You know,
Speaker 1: there's young people don't know anything about George Hollis really
Speaker 1: or Tom Landry yea, but no Lombardi because it's the trophy.
Speaker 1: And they know Madden because they play the game and
Speaker 1: maybe they've watched him in But Michael Irvin's on TV
Speaker 1: every day and right now, if you ask young people
Speaker 1: what they thought of Michael Irvin, they're probably gonna still
Speaker 1: think of him as a wide receiver more than they
Speaker 1: think of him as a TV personality. Would you not
Speaker 1: say that's accurate or I think you might be the
Speaker 1: issue guy. I think you might be a little too
Speaker 1: close to properly comment on that. I think you think
Speaker 1: you think most people still young people think they don't
Speaker 1: think of him as a well a great wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Young and young people who aren't lifelong Dallas Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: probably not what Yeah, but that's what I guess. That's
Speaker 1: the point. I'm not talking about just the average person
Speaker 1: on the street, because if you do that, then yeah,
Speaker 1: most people that are just average person think think of
Speaker 1: him and Smith as a gallon dancing with the stars.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's that. I'm saying. If you're
Speaker 1: a football fan, if you're a Cowboys fan, how do
Speaker 1: you how do you relate to that? How do you
Speaker 1: know that guy? In Oakland Raiders fan? Do you think
Speaker 1: they still think of John Madden more as a coach
Speaker 1: than they do as a that's the game or as
Speaker 1: the commentator? I think, I mean, keep like Michael Irvin.
Speaker 1: Kids who are going into college right now have no
Speaker 1: memory of Michael Irvin playing, so they probably think of
Speaker 1: him as a TV host who they know was a
Speaker 1: good wide receiver because he always talks about it and
Speaker 1: like Daz is his son and all that type of
Speaker 1: And that's the thing too, Tony talks about it a
Speaker 1: lot on there. I think, you know, the Patriots are
Speaker 1: probably going to play the Chiefs and the AFC Championship Game,
Speaker 1: and that's where whoever's going to be an AFC champ
Speaker 1: that's where Tony. That's gonna be the biggest moment to
Speaker 1: me for for how people will be watching that game
Speaker 1: right there. And I do believe that they have the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl as well, but I'm not even counting that
Speaker 1: because no one listens to the commentator because they're at parties,
Speaker 1: so that that's probably not going to be as big
Speaker 1: a moment. I mean, he'll have some opportunities in the
Speaker 1: playff super Bowls. I think NBC has is it? I
Speaker 1: thought it was CBS and maybe not, But either way,
Speaker 1: he'll be at the AFC Championship game. They don't have
Speaker 1: parties for that usually we're watching that. He'll have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to really show the world like how good he
Speaker 1: is and it's NBC. Is it okay? Next year? No?
Speaker 1: I don't remember what the question was about Romo. Oh
Speaker 1: it was about wow we got we got there from blocking? Yeah,
Speaker 1: way to go. It's close enough right now. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: only been one game. But has Demontre Moore made made
Speaker 1: any difference on the D line? I thought he was good, see,
Speaker 1: I mean he had a nice he had a nice
Speaker 1: takedown on Carson Palmer, seemed like you got some pressure.
Speaker 1: He's got the versatility to play some tackle if they
Speaker 1: need him to, which is important if first of all,
Speaker 1: because they're short there anyway, and also because Pie has
Speaker 1: been banged up. So see, I'll say everybody's overshadowed by
Speaker 1: Malik into Marcus right now. But I don't think he's
Speaker 1: been bad. Yeah, I'll say, see, I mean he's done
Speaker 1: some things. You're right if you're not. If you're not
Speaker 1: getting sacks, it's easy to say, well, you're not doing anything.
Speaker 1: But but I'm sure he's been fine. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's made an impact yet. I mean, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: been fine. I don't think he's made an impact yet.
Speaker 1: And quite frankly, I think and that may be because
Speaker 1: my expectations. I expect him to make more of an
Speaker 1: impact as this season wears on he gets back in
Speaker 1: the flow of things, mainly because I expect those other
Speaker 1: two guys to take a lot more attention and that
Speaker 1: will create opportunities for him. And I think he's one
Speaker 1: of the few on this defensive line that can take
Speaker 1: advantage of a one a man to man matchup and
Speaker 1: be able to beat that guy and get to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of pressures and took down the
Speaker 1: quarterback and his first game back from suspension. So I
Speaker 1: think that's pretty good. I mean, that's fine. I feel
Speaker 1: like I just feel like y'all are kind of selling.
Speaker 1: I'm sure right now. Honestly, to be honest with I
Speaker 1: just he goes back to a lot of other conversations
Speaker 1: we've had today. I guess this is kind of that day.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: significant amount. I mean, I think he was okay. I
Speaker 1: thought he was fine. I didn't say it was a
Speaker 1: significant amount. He's just the question was impact. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I say impact. So whatever, Derek, Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean he's good. We're just haven't seen enough. See
Speaker 1: see Barron Jones plays Wait, Barron Jones better playing closer
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage. Hmm, I see. I'd certainly
Speaker 1: there's a big hesitation. Why the hesitation for everybody? The
Speaker 1: hesitation is because I haven't seen a lot of great
Speaker 1: plays at the line of scrimmage, But have you seen
Speaker 1: a lot in the back end? He made He made
Speaker 1: a nice play on them on the would be touchdown
Speaker 1: in Denver and the guy got concussed. That was but
Speaker 1: and and I know he. I saw him with my
Speaker 1: own eyes make some great plays from center field at
Speaker 1: training camp. It has not translated to the regular season yet.
Speaker 1: But earlier in his career they were playing him around
Speaker 1: the line of scribbage a lot, and he tended. I
Speaker 1: thought he was playing pretty well in that kind of role.
Speaker 1: That's why they were putting up So so we've kind
Speaker 1: of seen moments of both. That's what that was my
Speaker 1: hesitation at least. And I don't know that I've seen
Speaker 1: either one consistently or either one like this season in
Speaker 1: these three games. He is an all around, very talented
Speaker 1: guy who hasn't put it all together yet. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a good way to put it. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: good way it is. Yeah, let's good to put it.
Speaker 1: Did you answer, um, are you playing? Ember loves to
Speaker 1: call Nick out. Let's call any one of them. I'm
Speaker 1: not just Nick. Yeah, I think he's probably better at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. But I mean who cares? I mean,
Speaker 1: who cares at third and three? I mean, like that
Speaker 1: part of the field, no one really cares. They care
Speaker 1: when it's forty yards down the field, and you didn't
Speaker 1: make the play, That's what I mean. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's better right here, but his job is
Speaker 1: to also be back here and be center field. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of the issue, That's what I mean. And
Speaker 1: this one is kind of a prediction type of thing. Well,
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley fumble and the Cowboys RecA the turnover. Now,
Speaker 1: we have not talked about that all week. Well, Nick said,
Speaker 1: you know, Nick, Nick said, he came up with his
Speaker 1: story in the shower. He does his best thinking in
Speaker 1: the shower. I do my thinking when I walk my dog,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about that while I was walking
Speaker 1: my dog this morning. They have what one takeaway this year?
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, Anthony Brown and Anthony Brown. You're right, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry they have two and Millie Collins at the one.
Speaker 1: What a Millie Collins Denver? Oh? Oh so they have Okay,
Speaker 1: they have I guess they have three on the season.
Speaker 1: Won a game, right, but none in the last game.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, which I'm two. Marinelli's goal is forty
Speaker 1: and they're woefully they're woefully short right now. They I mean,
Speaker 1: that would be great, get some takeaways. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's if Gurley is gonna fumble, but he's been
Speaker 1: having some fumble issues this year. I know golf has
Speaker 1: been awesome, but pick this dude off, even if it's
Speaker 1: because you're he's throwing while he's getting hit or something
Speaker 1: that get a takeaway that would make me feel a
Speaker 1: lot better about your chances to win. Yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: have much time left, so let's get some quick predictions.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the game, member, Amber. Why don't we start
Speaker 1: with you give us your your prediction for this game?
Speaker 1: Who wins? What's the score? I hate saying this again
Speaker 1: because I've been saying it almost every week about Switzer,
Speaker 1: but I'm just like waiting for him to just go
Speaker 1: for it. And you're just like it's like roulette, Like
Speaker 1: it's like red red red with it. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: that's yeah. I'm learning from the cowboys with some of
Speaker 1: these guys. That's what they call it, gambler's fallacy, for
Speaker 1: whatever that's worth. But staying on ten, they don't realize
Speaker 1: that the probabilities stay the same about it every single
Speaker 1: time it resets. Yeah, learned that in math class. Well
Speaker 1: that's my my crazy little prediction, which I'm still waiting
Speaker 1: for it to happen. It's very simple. Switzer, first touchdown,
Speaker 1: He's just gonna grab that ball and run for it
Speaker 1: and then let me see it. Twenty eight, twenty three,
Speaker 1: thirty eight seventeen. Dallas, they just they're thirty eight seventeen.
Speaker 1: They're just gonna kick their ass. I'm gonna say one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five total yards for Zeke total, one
Speaker 1: seventy five. He's gonna go off baying about one thirty. See,
Speaker 1: I've been sticking with Switzer, you've been sticking with one
Speaker 1: thirty five all purpose yards. They can win by three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I think we're about to see the difference between the
Speaker 1: quality and cornerbacks that Dez Bryant has been facing. I
Speaker 1: think if you own him in fantasy, start him. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking eight catches, one twenty in a touchdown something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be quite as bad. But
Speaker 1: I think, honestly, the Cowboys I think are better across
Speaker 1: the board. The Rams have better defensive linemen, but I
Speaker 1: consider that a wash, and I think they're gonna crack
Speaker 1: thirty points this week, thirty one, thirty one, twenty ish,
Speaker 1: something like that. That's interesting. You guys took both things.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was gonna say the running game.
Speaker 1: I think this is a game. Talking about what you
Speaker 1: talked earlier in the week, Dave, about how aggressives this
Speaker 1: defense is. I think this is going to create some
Speaker 1: lanes for Zeke that he hasn't really seen yet this year,
Speaker 1: and I do think that. I think he's tired of
Speaker 1: hearing the talk, and I think he has I think
Speaker 1: this offensive line is tired of people kind of doubting them.
Speaker 1: I think this is a game where they will create
Speaker 1: those lanes. Zeke will exploit them. He'll have a big day.
Speaker 1: I also agree that Dez is going to have a
Speaker 1: good day too, because he is not This is the
Speaker 1: first week where he is not facing a cornerback that
Speaker 1: is the caliber of the guys he's already faced. So
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a good week for him. I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys win thirty one sixteen. I think they
Speaker 1: blow them out. I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 1: really that close by the time you get to the
Speaker 1: third and fourth quarter. All Right, guys, appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday. We'll tell you what went
Speaker 1: right and what went wrong for the Cowboys till then
Speaker 1: for Nick, even Dave hellmant amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagels
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