WEBVTT - Chapter 14: Borrowing Trouble 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:04.520 Bridgewater is a production of iHeartRadio three D Audio and 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:08.240 Grimm and Mild from Aaron Mankey for full exposure. Listen 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:11.400 with headphones. Listener discretion advised. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.439 Yes, yes, Linda, thank you, and I'm sorry. I mean, 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:18.520 you're the dean. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.160 I should have called you earlier, and I'm sorry for 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:24.880 not giving you the advanced notice because obviously it put 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:25.600 you in a spot. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:31.320 But no, no, no, it's not exactly resolved. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.440 But I think the emergency part of the family emergency 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:36.960 is over at this point. But anyway, Yeah, thank you, 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:41.200 I appreciate it. No, no, no, no, no, I don't think 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.360 a leave of absence is necessary. We caught up on 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.639 quite a lot this morning, and I should be back 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:47.960 on schedule by the end of the week. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:01:00.960 Oh really, who's the publisher? Oh well, that's fantastic. No, 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:01.640 I don't. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.559 I don't have any completed chapters that I could share 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:05.800 just yet, but I. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:13.000 How how soon do they want that? I could try 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:13.319 to do that? 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:19.640 So hold on, So just two or three sample chapters 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.800 and outline whole book. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.480 Okay, yeah, okay, I'm going to get right on that. 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:36.160 Thank you, Thank you, Linda, Okay, bye. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.120 Jeremy, Hey you What are you doing here? 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.520 Were you ever going to tell me that Celestia is dead? 0:01:40.560 --> 0:02:17.400 Shit? Can you please close the door? 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.760 What the hell happened the other night? You were supposed 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:21.440 to protect her? 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.079 How exactly was I supposed to do that? You gave 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.239 me nothing to go on. It was all set up anyway. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:30.280 You were never worried about her, of course I was. 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.160 She didn't seem all that surprise to see us. You 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.040 sent us there under false pretenses. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:35.359 Yeah. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.240 I may not have given you the whole picture, but 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.600 I was concerned about what she was going to do. 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.160 I knew she wanted you for the ritual, and I thought, 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.240 I mean, okay, when she told me her plan, I 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.400 just assumed you were an anchor for your dad, that 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:51.880 she could help him pass over. 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.400 Yeah, well that is not what happened. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:55.440 So what did happen? 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.760 What did she tell you she was going to do? There? 0:02:59.360 --> 0:02:59.679 The viil? 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.919 It had been getting weaker and weaker for a long time, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.640 and she thought there was finally going to be a 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.200 way to close it. She thought Thomas was stuck like 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.720 he was holding the doorway open because he wasn't. He 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.520 wasn't what willing sacrifice. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:20.639 So you knew you knew that my father had been 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.760 murdered by the gathering. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:26.000 By the children of Titchuba. There were something else, something 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:31.440 twisted and wrong, that is no, I didn't know until 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:36.120 that night. She told me to come get you, to 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.920 send you an an to her at the ledge. She 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.600 she was going to push Thomas through, finally closed. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:43.200 The gate for good. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:49.640 But she she lied, didn't she that she could close 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.280 the gate without anyone else getting hurt. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:56.280 I don't know what she was thinking, but yes, she jumped. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:56.800 I'm sorry. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:58.120 Was she happy? 0:03:58.360 --> 0:03:58.920 Was she what? 0:03:59.600 --> 0:03:59.760 Not? 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.960 Okay, maybe happy isn't the right word. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:03.400 But did she. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:06.560 Did she want to be doing it? 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:11.440 I don't know, I think so. We tried to stop her. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.160 I tried to call out, I tried to pull her back, 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.680 but there was the wind, and there was all this 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:16.920 massive storm. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.920 And that it would happen very fast. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.320 What do you mean there was a store? 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.040 Yeah, there was a storm. Don't you remember. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.200 I don't think there was a storm anywhere else? 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:33.400 Right, of course, you should have told me, honestly, Katie, 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.240 I didn't even it didn't occur to me. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:38.960 I mean, the last three days have been. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.279 I don't know how to begin to describe them to you, 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.000 and I'm not going to so don't ask. I just 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.440 I know that Celeste should have been more on my mind, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.800 but I feel like I haven't had a chance to breathe. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:58.359 I am sorry, she's gone me too. How did you 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.839 find out I haven't seen in the papers anywhere? 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:07.479 Well, they, I mean they called me. Yeah, I guess 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.600 I was listed as one of her emergency contacts. They 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.440 couldn't get a hold of any of the others, so 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.719 eventually they hit my name on the list. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.480 Do you know who the others were? 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.400 Other members of the gathering? I would assume once from 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.160 other places, maybe people Celesti used to. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.680 Know, And none of them answered. Is this the end 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:33.360 of the gathering? Do you think Celesti was the leader? Right? 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:34.120 Yeah? 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:38.400 For our chapter at least. And things have been scattered 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:39.240 the last few days. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.000 But I've heard read what. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:46.800 Celested, the sacrifice she made, it should have calmed everything down. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.120 But there's been whisperings of another chapter leader coming to 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.800 Bridgewater to deal with the fallout. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.240 What fallout? 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:01.159 I don't know. I mean, it's not over. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:01.600 Yet, is it. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:06.080 Honestly, Katie, I have no idea. I'm just trying to 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.160 get back to my life and to I don't know, 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:16.440 start getting to know that the. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:19.120 The new life that this whole situation brought me. Right. So, wait, 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:20.320 who is this other leader? 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.320 Someone from Virginia? The triangle down there. 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:27.239 The historic Triangle, you know it? Yeah, of course, it's 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.560 a very well known area in the folklore circles. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:35.039 Well, I guess that makes sense. More supernatural activity means 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:36.600 more members of the gathering. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:41.000 And they're coming here because something went wrong with Celeste ritual. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.599 Yeah, I guess. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.040 Do you know who it is? 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:51.479 A woman named Peyton Blake. She's the youngest leader in 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:56.320 the history of the gathering, apparently barely thirty, apparently very knowledgeable. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.040 Do you think you could give me her contact information? 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.680 I mean, see what I can dig up. But I 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.760 should tell you I'm not going to try to seek 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:06.080 her out. 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:07.320 Uh why not? 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.760 Look, I joined the gathering as a way to process 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:16.040 my grief about my mom, and maybe I don't know, 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.480 maybe I started to believe some of it the longer 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.000 I was part of it. But I'm in way over 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.680 my head now and I'm not sure I want to be. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:27.600 Yeah, I know how you feel, but I'll try. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.120 To track her down for you. I mean, as much 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:32.720 as I want to put all of this behind me, 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:33.600 you might not. 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:34.040 Be able to. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:42.200 Yeah, Katie, I'm sorry you had to find out how 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.720 to celast from the police, but you, I don't know. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.040 You can't expect me to be upfront with you, and 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:49.160 you haven't been upfront with me. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:50.760 I guess that's fair. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.400 Maybe you and I could just try being honest with 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.480 each other from now on. If this really isn't over, 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:01.320 then I think we probably want the same things that 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.520 to make sure that whatever's on the other side that 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.280 you all are always talking about doesn't come out. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.320 Wait, did Sless make a believer out of you? 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:14.840 After all? 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.000 I think there is a lot more going on in 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.880 the Bridgewater Triangle, and I originally thought let's. 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.600 Just say that welcome to the club. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.160 Look, okay, I know that we don't always see I I, 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:33.680 but Maria and I we want to help. I'm not 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.880 going to go out of my way to get involved, 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.920 but if you need people to help you, we're here. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.080 Thank you. But actually I think I'm good. I've already 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:45.400 got a crack team on it. 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.240 I'm telling you, the plaid is going to make him 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:54.959 look like the original brownie towel man. 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.480 Not now that the mustache is gone. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.920 Oh thank god, Hey, you're you're the. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.760 Immediately assumed you recognized him from that hipster coffee shop. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:04.439 It's the same. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.160 No, I think the mustache could have been a strong choice. 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.160 Too strong, that had to go. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.760 I liked my mustad too bad. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.120 Hey, maybe you can grow a beard. Beards are so 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:19.680 in it and it would cover your face more beard maybe. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.160 Hey, so is this what you expected for a granddaughter 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:25.319 grandfather bonding? 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.880 Oh right, you mean did I expect to be spending 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.120 my Friday helping my dead grandpa who's only like eight 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.360 years older than me shop for skinny jeans? No, not exactly. 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:40.280 Well, Olivia is right, it's somehow still too brownie towel guy. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.000 Okay, the pants are good, though, way better than the 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:44.680 bell bottoms. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.400 I never wore bell bottoms. 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.120 Okay, Oh, try the button down and the sweater next. Hey, 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.480 thank you for coming, by the way, I know this 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.280 whole thing is super weird. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.079 Oh gosh, no, I am happy to do it. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.760 I just I wasn't sure I was ready for the 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.599 full one on one with a total stranger i'm biologically 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:04.080 related to. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.360 Yet trust me, I get it. I barely want one 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.040 on one time with my grandparents, and I've known them 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:10.920 my whole wife. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.360 What do you all right? What do you what do 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:13.800 you think? 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:14.880 WHOA? 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.280 Holy shit? You look well. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.319 I can't look that ridiculous, can I? We had collared 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:20.920 shirts and sweaters in the seventies. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.520 No, no, you look fine. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:27.040 You just oh you look just you look just like Jeremy. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:28.360 Really just like him. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.600 I mean it is creepy, all right, So no on 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:32.160 the sweater. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:33.800 How do you feel about a Henley? 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.680 I don't know, I have no idea. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:37.560 Great, try it on. 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:39.160 That's a Henley. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:45.840 Okay, try it with that bomber jacket and the black jeans. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.920 So you're not so cozy with the other coronas. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.880 Oh no, I mean they're fine. I mean they're not 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.440 super thrilled that I'm spending my life doing research on 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.800 made up stories for children. That's what they say now. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.360 But you know how it is. They're old. 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.720 Yeah, my dad's parents are kind of like that too. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.080 Never understood my dad working in tech, and so I 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.640 understand me even less. How about your parents? Do they 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.400 think it's all made up nonsense? 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:14.920 Oh? 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:20.520 Yeah, they're religious Hindu, which is how I was raised. Actually, actually, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.920 became really obsessed with religion when I was a teenager. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:28.000 I went to church and temple and the mosque, Buddhist centers, 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:32.120 basically anything I could find. It drove them crazy. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.960 That is a lot. Did you ever settle on any 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:35.320 of them? 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.480 I still celebrate the Hindu holidays with them, but I 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.400 don't know. I've always had a hard time believing in gods. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.040 The idea of a more powerful being having an effect 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.920 on all of us just felt strange. Ideas about the 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:54.680 soul or karma or universal forces, even magical creatures or 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:59.400 monsters like those always made more sense to me. So 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.920 I get Hinduism more than a lot of other religions. 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.360 But none of it really feels right. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.000 Yeah, exactly. I guess that's what led me to all 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.680 of the cryptozoology. I do think there's an explanation for 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.080 most of the weird stuff that's happened in the world, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.360 for the miracles and the ghosts and the myths. I 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.920 just think that maybe our scope of understanding it is limited. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.800 For some people, that leads them to religion, and for 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.640 me it led me to what my parents consider bigfoot hunting. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.440 I've never been able to make them see that I'm 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.320 just seeking out the same answers that they are with 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:36.240 their faith. You know. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.480 Oh, I can totally picture you as a religion obsessed 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.480 fifteen year old. Yeah yeah, well, I mean it's all 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.240 kind of part of that historical narrative that you're always 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.840 talking about. Right, So the stories that we tell ourselves 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.679 in religious texts, you know, they aren't that different from 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.800 the myths we make up to explain the unexplainable. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.040 See, you should talk to my parents for me. Oh okay, 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:06.200 So I guess a lot of those things are explainable 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.760 now because monsters are real. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.040 Well, I'll be sure not to mention that part to them, though. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:16.160 You know, you should probably ask me out first before 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.640 you go introducing me to your parents. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:23.080 But I feel ridiculous, like I'm pretending to be Jim 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:23.880 Morris or something. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.560 Oh maybe if you kept the shaggy haircut. But I 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.599 think you look perfect. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.400 Really, I don't look anything like myself exactly. 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:54.680 And hey, Jeremy, how are things at the university Little Rocky? 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:59.200 They're okay. My Dean was weirdly not thrilled that I 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:00.000 missed the last. 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.000 Two days of classes without any morning, But I think 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.360 I was actually able to smooth things over? 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:05.440 Would you tell her? 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.800 I told her truth that I had a family emergency. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.679 I didn't get specifics. 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.079 I couldn't exactly tell her that my dad came back 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:15.520 from the dead, and I didn't. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.760 Literally did not know what day of the week it was. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.040 But it's okay. Where is he? 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.080 Oh, he's out with Olivia and Vippen. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:28.280 Why doing what? 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:29.960 Shopping? 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:30.600 No? 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.720 Getting a haircut? Yeah? 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:34.200 Why? 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.080 The kids thought it might be a good idea for 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.520 Thomas to you know, blend in a little bit more. 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:38.960 I guess. 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:46.120 Yeah, I think he might really like Olivia. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.560 I actually think she asked him to come along. I'm 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.320 not sure she was ready to go out with Thomas 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:51.360 on her own, but you. 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.360 Know, yeah, juicy gossip. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:58.920 Yeah, how's he doing? Man? You saw him this morning, Jeremy, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:14:59.480 I mean. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:04.080 I know, I know, but I mean, hey, thank you 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.160 for letting me crash on your couch. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.200 I think I'm just I'm not really ready to. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.720 Like you don't want to let him out of your side? 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:15.280 I get it. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.880 Yeah, does he seem off to you at all? 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:20.360 Off? 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.760 How? I don't know, Like this morning, he was sort 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.120 of still half asleep, and he seemed a little bit disoriented. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:27.360 I don't know. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.920 Maybe maybe he's just not a morning person. I no, he. 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:35.400 Always liked mornings. Maybe he's just you know, he's just 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.080 not used to sleep when yet or something? 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:37.600 Right? 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.240 I guess that makes sense. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.920 I mean, like his food thing. His whole body has 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:46.680 to be adjusting. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:53.440 M Jesus. Would that have been my room? What your 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:54.480 guest room? Would that have been? 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:55.200 That? 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:56.720 That was gonna be my room, wasn't it? 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:57.360 Uh? 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:02.600 Yeah, yeah, that was the plan. Shelley would have stayed 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.440 with us in our room while she was a baby, 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.160 and then you guys might have shared for a little 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.640 bit before we could afford a bigger place. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.000 And then you never needed a bigger place? 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.280 No I didn't. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.360 And what what happens? 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:19.560 Now? 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:20.560 Where do we go from here? 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:21.960 I have no idea. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.520 Does he get a job? Does he go back to 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.880 working on the forest? Am I gonna fucking die before him? 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.720 Or is he just going to disappear one day in 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:36.000 two years from now? Because this is all just borrowed time? 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.120 I mean, see, you're spiraling? 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:40.200 How are you not? 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:40.840 The man? 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.760 The man you love is back? But man, he's forty 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:46.640 years younger than you. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:48.600 Yeah, thanks, I noticed. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.840 I mean, how does any how does any of this work? 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.200 I don't know. I mean, we did it. You know, 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.400 we got him back. It's more than I could have 0:16:59.440 --> 0:16:59.920 ever hoped for. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.240 You don't feel like it's it's a monkey's paw or something. 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:11.440 Well, sure I do. I mean I got them back, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.119 but I can't get the last four decades back to 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:18.400 spend with them. Oh. We miss an entire life together, 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:23.160 and I mean, you know, I know that we can't 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.679 be together now, not really, but I mean there's no 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:28.920 life for us. A build. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.000 Doesn't it like eat you up? 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.439 Of course it does. But me coming to terms with 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.639 the cruel irony of my situation is not the same 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.640 as you waiting for the other shoe to drop. 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:46.720 It's just a. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.879 If there's one silver lining to me missing out on 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.439 my life, it's that the two of you have gotten 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.919 yours ahead of you. I mean, you're the one that 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:02.080 got robbed, Jeremy. I'd give up a lot more for 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.680 you and Shelley to have time with your dad. 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:09.080 Oh my god, Shelley, what are you gonna tell her? 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.760 I don't know, I don't know. I mean, Olivia doesn't 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.680 want me to keep it from her. She doesn't think 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:15.080 it's fair. 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.440 Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, But what. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.879 If telling her I'm putting her in danger. I mean, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.520 there's still something roman around out. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.720 There, and maybe it's not our problem anymore. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:29.000 What Look, Katie Franks came to see me earlier, and 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.080 she says, there's this new gathering leader who's on our 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:35.720 way up from Virginia and maybe she can just take 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:36.320 care of this. 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.880 I'm not sure that we can rely on I'm stranger 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.640 from another state to fix things here. 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.280 I also met someone outside of Oakley Farms. You did? 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:48.840 Why didn't you say? 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:49.359 Well? 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:49.760 I don't know. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.800 I guess I just got distracted. It wasn't really much 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:53.919 of anything. It's just another hobbyist. But she's part of 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.639 this group of legend trippers who've all they've come to 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.480 Bridgewater to look into all the strange stuff that's been happening. 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.440 So maybe we can just like keep. 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.240 An eye on them and hear about any other attacks 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.320 and then just like, I don't know, just go from there. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:13.280 I I don't know. I just think that we can 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.640 maybe afford to do a little outsourcing. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:20.400 Here, Okay. And if all of this really is the 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.960 Fay Realm like Vipen and Olivia think. Doesn't that mean 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.040 we're dealing with much bigger issue here? 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:30.359 I don't know, maybe, but Fay myths are incredibly broad 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.560 and until we have something concrete. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.040 And I know my. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.399 Dad wants to get Alden out and he wants to 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.480 figure out what's going on with the in between but 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:46.159 come on, it took us forty years to get him out. 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:52.720 Don't you think we've done enough? Ah? 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:53.560 Tassa pepper. 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:54.919 Oh, here you go. 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.399 So you really think that all of this the in 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:02.120 between space? What happened to me? It's fairies? 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:03.919 Yep, that's the working theory. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.200 I thought fairies were tiny and harmless. 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.080 That's the modern Disney version of them. But the Fay realm, well, 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.560 depending on when and where the myth is from, it 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.480 can encompass so much. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.679 Oh exactly on the version that's small and impish, like 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.840 luring children into the woods, that appears in so many 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:26.480 different cultures, like fairies and hobgoblins in Europe, Puck wedgies here. 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.920 Right, everyone using different language to describe the same thing. 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.560 Okay, then which version of the myth do we think 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:33.119 is correct? 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.600 I don't think it's about one group of people getting 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.320 it all right. It might be all true to some degree. 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:42.600 I mean, it's like the Abrahamic religions, right. The God 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.359 is the same across Christianity and Judaism and Islam, but 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:47.959