1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Bridgewater is a production of I Heart Radio three D 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Audio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Mankey for a 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: full exposure listen with headphones. Listener discretion advised. Yes, yes, Linda, 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: thank you, and I'm sorry. I mean, you're the dean. 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I should have called you earlier, and I'm sorry for 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: not giving you the advanced notice because obviously it put 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: you in a spot. But no, no, no, it's it's 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: not exactly resolved, but I think the emergency part of 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 1: the family emergency is over at this point. But anyway, Yeah, 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate it. No, no, no no, no, no, 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: I I don't think a leave of absence is necessary. 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: We caught up on quite a lot this morning, and 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: I should be back on schedule by the end of 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: the week. Oh really, who's the publisher. Oh that's fantastic. No, 15 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have any completed chapters that I 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: could share just yet, but I, um, how how soon 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: do they want that? I could try to do that? 18 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: So hold on, So just two or three sample chapters 19 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: and outline whole book. Okay, yeah, okay, I'm going to 20 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: get right on that. Thank you, Thank you, Linda. Okay, Bye, Jeremy, Hey, 21 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: what are you doing here? Were you ever going to 22 00:01:38,160 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: tell me that celestis dead? Ship? Can you please close 23 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: the door? What the hell happened the other night? You 24 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: were supposed to protect her? How exactly was I supposed 25 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: to do that? You gave me nothing to go on 26 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: and was all set up anyway? You were? You were 27 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: never worried about her, of course I was. She didn't 28 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: seem all that surprised to see us. You sent us 29 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: there under false pretenses. Yeah. I may not have given 30 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: you the whole picture, but I was concerned about what 31 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: she was going to do. I knew she wanted you 32 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: for the ritual, and I thought, I mean, okay, when 33 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: she told me her plan, I just assumed you were 34 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: an anchor for your dad, that she could help him 35 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: pass over. Yeah, well that is not what happened. So 36 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: what did happen? What did she tell you she was 37 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: going to do? There? The veil, it had been getting 38 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: weaker and weaker for a long time, and she thought 39 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: there was finally going to be a way to close it. 40 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: She thought Thomas was stuck, like he was holding the 41 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: doorway open because he wasn't willing sacrifice. So you knew, 42 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: you knew that my father had been murdered by the 43 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: gathering by the children of Tituba. There was something else, 44 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: something twisted and wrong, that is not No, I didn't 45 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: know until that night. She told me to come get you, 46 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: to send you an end to her at the ledge. 47 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: She she was going to push Thomas through, finally closed 48 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: the gate for good. But she she lied? Didn't she 49 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: that she could close the gate without anyone else getting hurt? 50 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what she was thinking, but yes, she jumped. 51 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Was she happy? What not? Okay, maybe happy 52 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: isn't the right word. But did she did she want 53 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: to be doing it? I don't know, I I think so. 54 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: We tried to stop her. I tried to call out, 55 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: I tried to pull her back, but there was the 56 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: wind and it was all this massive storm and that 57 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: like what happened very fast? Wait? Wait, wait, what do 58 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: you mean there was a store? Yeah, there was a store. 59 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: Don't you remember. I don't think there was a store 60 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: anywhere else? Right, of course you should have told me, Honestly, Katie, 61 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: I didn't even it didn't occur to me. I mean, 62 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: the last three days have been I don't know how 63 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: to begin to describe them to you, and I'm not 64 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: going to, so don't ask. I just I know that 65 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: Celeste should have been more on my mind, but I 66 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: feel like I haven't had a chance to breathe. I 67 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: am sorry, she's gone me too. How did you find out? 68 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: I haven't see in the papers anywhere they I mean 69 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: they called me. Yeah, I guess I was listed as 70 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: one of her emergency contacts. They couldn't get a hold 71 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: of any of the others, so eventually they hit my 72 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: name on the list. Do you know who the others were? 73 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: Other members of the gathering? I would assume once from 74 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: other places, maybe people Celeste used to know, and none 75 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: of them answered. Is this the end of the gathering? 76 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: Do you think Celeste was the leader? Right? Yeah? For 77 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: our chapter at least. And things have been scattered the 78 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: last few days. But I've heard what's celested. The sacrifice 79 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: she made, it should have calmed everything down. But there's 80 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: been whisperings of another chapter leader coming to Bridgewater to 81 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: deal with the fallout. What fallout? I don't know. I mean, 82 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: it's not over yet, is it, Honestly, Katie, I I 83 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: have no idea. I'm just trying to get back to 84 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: my life and too, I don't know, start getting to 85 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: know that the new the new life that this whole 86 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: situation brought me. Right. So, wait, who is this other leader? 87 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: Someone from Virginia? The triangle down there, the historic Triangle, 88 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: you know it? Yeah, of course, it's very well known 89 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: area in the folklore circles. Well, I guess that makes sense. 90 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: More supernatural activity means more members of the gathering, and 91 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: they're they're coming here because something went wrong with Celeste's ritual. Yeah, 92 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: I guess do you know who it is? A woman 93 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: named Peyton Blake. She's the youngest leader in the history 94 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: of the gathering, apparently barely thirty, apparently very knowledgeable. Do 95 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: you think you could give me her contact information? I mean, 96 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: see what I can dig up, But I should tell 97 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: you I'm not going to try to seek out why not. Look, 98 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: I joined the gathering as a way to process my 99 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: grief about my mom, and maybe I don't know, maybe 100 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: I started to believe some of it the longer I 101 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: was part of it. But I'm in way over my 102 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: head now and I'm not sure I want to be. Yeah, 103 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: I know how you feel, but I'll try to track 104 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: her down for you. I mean, as much as I 105 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: want to put all of this behind me, you might 106 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: not be able to. Yeah, Katie, I'm sorry you have 107 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: to find out how's the last from the police. But you, 108 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. You can't expect me to be upfront 109 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: with you when you haven't been up front with me. 110 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: I guess that's fair. Maybe, um, you and I could 111 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: just try being honest with each other from now on. 112 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: If this it really isn't over, then I I think 113 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: we probably want to say thing and what's that to 114 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: make sure that whatever is on the other side that 115 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: you all are always talking about doesn't come out? Uh wait? 116 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Did Sless make a believer out of you? After all? 117 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: I think there is a lot more going on in 118 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: the Bridgewater Triangle and I originally thought let's just say 119 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: that welcome to the club. Look, okay, I know that 120 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: we don't always see but Marian and I we want 121 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: to help. I'm not going to go out of my 122 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: way to get involved. But if you need people to 123 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: help you, we're here. Thank you. But actually I think 124 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm good. I've already got a crack team on it. 125 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the plaid is going to make him 126 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: look like the original brownie towel man. Not now that 127 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: the mustache is gone. Oh thank god, you're You're the 128 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: who immediately assumed you recognized him from that hipster coffee shop. 129 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: It's the same. No, I think the mustache could have 130 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: been a strong choice, too strong that had to go 131 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: liked too bad. Hey, maybe you can grow a beard. 132 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: Beards are so in and it would cover your face more. Maybe. Hey, so, um, 133 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: is this what you expected for a granddaughter grandfather bonding? 134 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: Oh right, you mean did I expect to be spending 135 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: my Friday helping my dead grandpa, who's only like eight 136 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: years older than we shop for skinny jeans. No, not exactly. Well, 137 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: Olivia is right, it's somehow still too brawny towel guy. Okay, 138 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: the pants are good, though, way better than the bell bottoms. 139 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: I never wore bell bottoms. Okay, Oh, try the button 140 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: down and the sweater next. Hey, thank you for coming, 141 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: by the way, I know this whole thing is super weird. 142 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, no, I am happy to do it. I 143 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: wasn't sure I was ready for the full one on 144 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: one with a total stranger and biologically related to Yet 145 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: trust me, I get it. I barely want one on 146 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: one time with my grandparents, and I've known them my 147 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: whole wife. What do you all right? What do you? 148 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: What do you think? WHOA, holy sh it, you look what? 149 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: I can't look that ridiculous? Can I? We had collared 150 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: shirts and sweaters in the seventies. No, No, you look fine. 151 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: You just you look you just you look just like Jeremy, 152 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: really just like him. I mean it is creepy, all right. 153 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: So no, on the sweater. How do you feel about Henley? 154 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea. Great, try it on, 155 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: that's say, okay, try it with that bomber jacket and 156 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: and the black jeans. So you're not so cozy with 157 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: the other Karanas? Oh no, I mean they're fine. I 158 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: mean they're not super thrilled that I'm spending my life 159 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: doing research on made up stories for children. That's what 160 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: they say. But you know how it is. They're old. Yeah, 161 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: my dad's parents are kind of like that too. I 162 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: never understood my dad working in tech, and so I 163 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: understand me even less. How about your parents? Do they 164 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: think it's all made up nonsense? Oh? Yeah, they're religious Hindu, 165 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: which is how I was raised. Actually, Um, actually became 166 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: really obsessed with religion when I was a teenager. I 167 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: went to church and temple and the mosque, Buddhist centers, 168 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: basically anything I could find. It drove them crazy. That 169 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: is a lot that you ever settle on any of them. 170 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: I still celebrate the Hindu holidays with them, but I 171 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I've always had a hard time believing in 172 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: God's The idea of a more powerful being having an 173 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: effect on all of us just felt strange. Ideas about 174 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: the soul or karma or universal forces, even magical creatures 175 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: or monsters like those always made more sense to me. 176 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: So I get Hinduism more than a lot of other religions, 177 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: but none of it really feels right. Yeah, exactly. I 178 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: guess that's what led me to all of the crypto zoology. 179 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: I do think there's an explanation for most of the 180 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: weird stuff that's happened in the world, for the miracles 181 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: and the ghosts and the myths. I just think that 182 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: maybe our scope of understanding it is limited. For some 183 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: people that leads them to religion, and for me, let 184 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: me do what my parents consider bigfoot hunting. I've never 185 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: been able to make them see that I'm just seeking 186 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: out the same answers that they are with their faith. 187 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: You know, Oh, I can totally picture you as a 188 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: religion obsessed fifteen year old. Yeah yeah, I mean it's 189 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: it's all kind of part of that historical narrative that 190 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: you're always talking about. Right, So the stories that we 191 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: tell ourselves in religious texts, you know, they aren't that 192 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: different from the myths that we make up to explain 193 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: the unexplainable. See, you should talk to my parents from me. 194 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: So I guess a lot of those things are explainable 195 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: now because monsters are real. Well, I'll be sure not 196 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: to mention that part to them. So you know, you 197 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: should probably um ask me out first before you go 198 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: introducing me to your parents. Um, I feel ridiculous, like 199 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm pretending to be Jim Morrison or something. Maybe if 200 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: you kept the shaggy haircut. But I think you look perfect. Really, 201 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't look anything like myself exactly. And hey, Jeremy, 202 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: our things at the university a little rocky, They're okay. 203 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: My Dean was weirdly not thrilled that I missed the 204 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: last two days of classes without any morning, but I 205 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: think I was actually able to smooth things over, would 206 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: you tell her? I told the truth. Then I had 207 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: a family emergency. I didn't get specifics. I couldn't exactly 208 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: tell her that my dad came back from the dead, 209 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: and I didn't literally did not know what day of 210 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: the week. It was fine, it's okay. Where is he? Oh, 211 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: he's out with Olivia and Vippen? Why do we want 212 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: shopping and getting a haircut? Why? The kids thought it 213 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: might be a good idea for Thomas to you know, 214 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: blend in a little bit more, I guess, and Vivin 215 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: went with them. Yeah. I think he might really like Olivia. 216 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: I actually think she asked him to come along. I'm 217 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: not sure she was ready to go out with Thomas 218 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: on her own, but you know, yeah, juicy gossip. Yeah, 219 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: how's he doing? Man? You saw him this morning, Jeremy, 220 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, no, but I mean, hey, thank 221 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: you for letting me crash on your couch. I think 222 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not really ready to like you don't 223 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: want to let him out of your side? I get it. 224 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: Does he seem off to you at all? Off? How? 225 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like this morning he was sort of 226 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: still half asleep and he seemed a little bit disoriented. 227 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe he's just not a morning person. 228 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: I know he always liked mornings. Maybe he's just, you know, 229 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: he's just not used to sleep and yet or something, right, 230 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: I guess that makes sense. I mean, like his food, things, 231 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: his his whole body has to be adjusting. Jesus, would 232 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: that have been my room? What your guest room? Would 233 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: that have been? That was gonna be my room, wasn't it? Ah? Yeah, yeah, 234 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: that was the plan. Shelley would have stayed with us 235 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: in our room while she was a baby, and then 236 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: you guys might have shared for a little bit before 237 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: we could uh ford a bigger place, and then you 238 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: never needed a bigger place? Huh? I didn't? And what what? 239 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: What happens? Now? Where do we go from here? I 240 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: have no idea. Does he get a job? Does he 241 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: go back to working on the forest? Am I gonna 242 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: fucking die before him? Or is he just going to 243 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: disappear one day in two years from now? Because this 244 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: is all just borrowed time. I mean, sweetie, you're spiraling? 245 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: How are you not? The man? The man you love 246 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: is back? But and he's forty years younger than you. Thanks. 247 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: I noticed. I mean, how does any how does any 248 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: of this work? I don't know. I mean we did it. 249 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: You know, we got him back. It's more than I 250 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: could have ever hoped for. Yeah, you don't feel like 251 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a monkey's paw or something. Well, sure I do. 252 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: I mean I got him back, but I can't get 253 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: the last four decades back to spend with them. Oh, 254 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: we miss an entire life together. I can't mean, you know, 255 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: I know that we can't be together now, not really, 256 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: but I mean there's no life for us to build. 257 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't it like eat you up? Of course it does. 258 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: But me come into terms with the cruel irony of 259 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: my situation is not the same as you waiting for 260 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: the other shoe to drop. It's just if there's one 261 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: silver lining to me missing out on my life, it's 262 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: that the two of you have gotten yours ahead of you. 263 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you're the one that got robbed, Jeremy. I'd 264 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: give up a lot more for you and Shelley to 265 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: have time with your dad. Oh my god, Shelly, what 266 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: are you going to tell her? I don't know, I 267 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, Olivia doesn't want me to keep 268 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: it from her she doesn't think it's fair. Yeah, I'm 269 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: inclined to agree, But what of telling her I'm putting 270 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: her in danger. I mean, there's still something roaming around 271 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: out there, and maybe it's not our problem anymore. What Look, 272 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: Katie Frank's came to see me earlier, and she says, 273 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: there's this new gathering leader who's on our way up 274 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: from Virginia and maybe she can just take care of this. 275 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that we can rely on a stranger 276 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: from another state to fix things here. I also met 277 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: someone outside of Oakley Farms. You did? Why didn't you say? Well, 278 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I just got distracted. It 279 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: wasn't really much of anything. It's just another hobbyist. But 280 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: she's part of this group of legend trippers who have 281 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: all They've come to Bridgewater to look into all the 282 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: strange stuff that's been happening. So maybe we can just 283 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: like keep an eye on them and hear about any 284 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: other attacks and then just like I don't just go 285 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: from there. I I I don't know. I just think 286 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: that we can maybe afford to do a little outsourcing here, Okay, 287 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: And if all of this really is the Fay realm, 288 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: like Vippen and Olivia think, doesn't that mean we're dealing 289 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: with much bigger issue here? I don't know, maybe, but 290 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: Fay myths are incredibly broad and until we have something concrete, 291 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: and I know my dad wants to get all dan 292 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: out and he wants to figure out what's going on 293 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: with the in between but come on, it took us 294 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: forty years to get him out. Don't you think we've 295 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: done enough? Pass the pepper? Here you go. So you 296 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: really think that all of this the in between space? 297 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: What happened to me? It's fairies? Um, yep, that's the 298 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: working theory. I thought fairies were tiny and armless. That's 299 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: the modern Disney version of them. But the Fay realm, well, 300 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: depending on when and where the myth is from, it 301 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: can encompass so much exactly. And the version that's small 302 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: and ambish, like luring children into the woods, that appears 303 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: in so many different cultures, like fairies and hobgoblins in Europe. 304 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: Puckweges here, right, everyone using different language to describe the 305 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: same thing. Then which version of the myth that we 306 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: think is correct? I don't think it's about one group 307 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: of people getting it all right. It might be all 308 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: true to some degree. I mean, it's like the Abrahamic religions, right. 309 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: The God is the same across Christianity and Judaism and Islam, 310 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: but a lot of the details are different. So what's 311 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: the God in this situation? The one unifying thing the Phayreom. 312 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: I guess it appears basically in every myth tradition, just 313 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: not always in the same way. The other side. That's 314 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: what the gathering calls it, right all right, I think 315 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: it's a place where spirits are in the afterlife essentially. 316 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: I guess the only other soul I saw was Alden. 317 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: It's not always just about the afterlife, though. A Mount 318 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: Olympus could be considered the other world, even though they 319 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: had the underworld too, or Valhalla or ryugu Jo, a 320 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: Japanese land of dragons under the sea. There there's actually 321 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: a whole folk story about a man who went to 322 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: Ryo Gujo for three days and then came back to 323 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: his life years had passed. Sounds familiar. And that's not 324 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: even including the liminal spaces, the river sticks, Purgatory, chin 325 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: vet Bridge. Sometimes they're not even places but times. The 326 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: day of the dead, all Hallow's eves seances, even any 327 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: place or time that connects this side to the other side, 328 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: whatever the other side might be. So we think that 329 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: in between space that Thomas was in was really like 330 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: a halthway to the other side, like riversticks. It would 331 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: make sense. Right where did you guys learn all this stuff? Well, 332 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm getting my PhD in it, so I kind of 333 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: have to know it all. But Olivia, you don't work 334 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: in folklore like Jeremy Ryan. No, but I have access 335 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: to the Internet. Oh did Jeremy explain the Internet to you? 336 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: It sort of honestly sounds just as made up as 337 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: the Fay Realm or some idea of monsters coming over 338 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: a kind of bridge, at least that stuff I've actually experienced. 339 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: Don't worry, we'll work up to the dark web. What 340 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: everything seems mysterious when you're first learning about it. We 341 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: think of the pay realm and monsters is something magical 342 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: and impossible. But what if they're just another species that's 343 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: just really different from ours, like those fish that live 344 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: in the bottom of the ocean, another species that lives 345 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: in another dimension with a bunch of supernatural beasts. I know, 346 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: I know, it sounds far fetched. You're dead. Grandpa's currently 347 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: dipping a French fry into his milkshake, so it's delicious. Yeah, no, 348 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: I can safely say I will never confirm that for myself. 349 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 1: You're missing out hip him. Wait, what what does that 350 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: make magic? I mean Celeste and the children of Titsubo 351 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: were able to open up the gate, So so there's 352 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: something at work here. Whatever it is, magic or physics, 353 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: we don't understand. It has to have rules. We just 354 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: need to find out what they are. Okay, well, we 355 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: know that things happen on a forty years cycle, and 356 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: then it seems to need two souls at any given time. 357 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: There was someone with all them before I appeared. He's 358 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: always had someone with him until now. Celest didn't get 359 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: all the way through. She broke one of the rules. 360 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: I broke them, and we have no idea what the 361 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: consequences of that are going to be. Come on, but 362 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: let's get out of here, um fippin. We'll drop you 363 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: off at Years on our way, on our way to 364 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: what to deal with some of the consequences. Jeremy, I 365 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: don't think Thomas is going to see it that way. 366 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: He feels responsible to all that but what about his 367 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: responsibility to us, to himself. Well, we can't spend the 368 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: rest of our lives trying to control the Bridgewater Triangle 369 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: because it's out of control. How about starting with trying 370 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: to learn more about it? Okay, don't you still have 371 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: a book to write? Honestly, I don't. I don't even 372 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: know how I'm supposed to write a book now. The 373 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: entire premise of it was that people in the Bridgewater 374 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: Triangle have this unique relationship to myth, and they're spending 375 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: centuries stealing legends from the Wampanoag and bringing legends of 376 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: their own, then mixing them together to create something particular 377 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: to this place. How many times have I said this 378 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: place and it was all about urban legends influencing culture 379 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: and vice versa. Accept that, Dada. It turns out they 380 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: weren't really legends at all, because people in the Bridgewater 381 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: Triangle have been and are being attacked by real fucking monsters. 382 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: By entire life's work is all bullshit. I've been made. 383 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: Reality has turned me into a complete fraud. And on 384 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: top of all that, I'm the same fucking age as 385 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: my father. I'm sorry, I just like I feel like 386 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: I can't even breathe and m hm. I understand. I 387 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: get that, Jeremy, I really do, I really do. But 388 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: what about Alton? Okay, is just a kid, I know, 389 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: but for all we know there is nothing that we 390 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: can do about it. Right? But then what about the 391 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: balance that Celeste was always talking about? If whoever whatever 392 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: controls the triangle or the gate or the fucking in 393 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: between whatever this is, isn't happy with the way things are, 394 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: I am quite confident that they're going to make it known. Okay, 395 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: then don't you think we should get ahead of this? 396 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand what is this about? What is it? 397 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: Why are you so eager to find more problems? Yeah? 398 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Aren't you tired? Of course? Of course I am, Honey. 399 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: This is what I do. I figure things out, you know, 400 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I fix them. Yeah. But as you were 401 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: just talking about, and you missed your entire life because 402 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: of its fair, it isn't And you're right, my dad 403 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: and I we have a chance now to really get 404 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: to know each other. Yeah, yes, So why the rush, right? 405 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: I mean, we can figure all of this out and 406 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: then you can have that time. But I know that 407 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: you'll both be safe and I'm sick of trying to 408 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: change things that I can't control. Do you really think 409 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: that we can figure this out enough to fight against it? 410 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: Celeste did the ritual wrong, We're definitely not going to 411 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: do it right. We need to enjoy this while we can, 412 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: while we can. What if it takes him back? Wait? What? 413 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: This is so much bigger than any of us, and 414 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: I can't I can't to wrap my head around it 415 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: at all. And it was literally, this was literally my 416 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: job to understand all of this crap. But now it's 417 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: it's real. The cycle, the balance, the Faye round, the 418 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 1: goddamn dog all. Then it's all so beyond my scope 419 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: that I don't even see the point. I don't see 420 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: the point in trying what I do see, I see, 421 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: I see a chance at a second chance, And for 422 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: whatever reason, I'm getting that at and having a dad, 423 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: and until something happens that forces me to confront all 424 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: of this other shit, that is what I am going 425 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: to focus on. Jeremy is not going away again. You don't. 426 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: You can't say that you don't know that, And that 427 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: is the whole point. None of us know anything. Celeste 428 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: is dead, She's not somewhere else. So if everything is 429 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: still fucked up that we have a ticking clock here. 430 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just what the hell? Power search, earthquake? 431 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: Get away from the windows, and what's happening? I don't know? 432 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: And and what do we do? What do we do? 433 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: I don't know? I don't know. Do you hear that? What? Nothing? 434 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: There's nothing? Are you sure this is a good idea? 435 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: We have to rip the band aid off sometime, you know, 436 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: especially if knowing everything could help her stay safe. So 437 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: the sooner the better. But while she's working, I figure 438 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: it lowers the freak out chances, trust me, okay, because 439 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: banks are just nice and quiet. Knock knock, live, Hi, honey, 440 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: what are you doing here? Sorry for the unexpected drive by, 441 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: but we were in the neighborhood and um, did you 442 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: finish whatever you were helping your nana with? Oh? Sorry, Hi, 443 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: who's this? Mom? This is Um Thomas. Hello Thomas, I'm Shelley. 444 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm Olivia's mom. Yeah I know, so, mom. This is 445 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: UM Thomas Bradshaw. Oh hi, okay, Bradshaw is in Jeremy's brother. 446 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know he had a brother. Oh no, 447 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: this is not his brother. So I'm just gonna tell 448 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: you some stuff, and I need you to know that 449 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm not messing with you. Live. What are you talking about? 450 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: Does the name Thomas Bradshaw sound to get all familiar 451 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: to you? That was Mom's old partner, right, the one 452 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: who died well missing. It turns out I'm still very 453 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: much alive you. Uh, okay, I don't understand, okay right? 454 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: So um, all that stuff Nana told you growing up 455 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: about Bridgewater and how weird it is and how something 456 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: happened to her partner, something that defied explanation, Yeah, that 457 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: was all true. And so this is Thomas Bradshaw who 458 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: went missing in except he wasn't so much missing as 459 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: he was trapped in a magical to mention where time 460 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: didn't really pass, which is why he looks closer to 461 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: your age than Nana's, even though he's really old enough 462 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: to be your father. And by old enough, I mean 463 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: he is your father and my grandfather. So that's what's happening. 464 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: What hi, lif Um, I don't really understand what you're doing. 465 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: I know it's allowed to take it for me too, 466 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: and I know Anne would want to talk to you 467 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: explain everything, but I couldn't wait to meet you. I've 468 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: been waiting to meet you for forty uh no, no, 469 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: you're crazy and you're you're some sort of scammer or 470 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: a creep. But and then middle Mom, this is real, Olivia, 471 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: it is I promise Shelly. You can ask me anything 472 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: you want and I'll tell you everything that I can. Really. Okay, listen, 473 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what your game is here, but you 474 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: are going to stay away from my daughter. Mom, Olivia. 475 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: It's not your fault, honey. This man is clearly praying 476 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: on you, and so I will just stop it. Stop. 477 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: You will get out of here right now, Shelly. Please, 478 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: if you do not leave in the next five seconds, 479 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: I am pressing my panic along. Oh my god, Mom, 480 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: he's not trying to rob the player, and then the 481 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: police will be dragging your sick predator asked to jail 482 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: before you can blink. So you have options. Mom. It's okay. 483 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: I'll go fantastic And if you so much as look 484 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: at my daughter again, I won't wait for the police. 485 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Do you understand me? Yeah, Okay, just go back to Nanna. No, 486 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: do not go near my mother. Mom. He's gonna go okay, 487 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: and and and you and I will talk. I mean it, 488 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: stay away from my family, Okay, I understand. I am 489 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: so sorry for springing this on you, Shelley. I'm so 490 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: sorry for so much. I don't understand. How is this happening? 491 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. This is not a natural quiet Dad, Jeremy, 492 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: hey you okay? Well, actually I need to talk to 493 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: both of you. We need to talk to you too. 494 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: Something just happened. What do you mean? Wait, what what's 495 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: going on? Why is everything? Why can't I hear anything? 496 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: We don't know. There was this earthquake and then everything 497 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: went quiet inside. So we came out here and it 498 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: was the same thing, an earthquake. I don't know that's 499 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: what it felt like. Was it was it quiet when 500 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: you were walking on I don't know. I wasn't paying 501 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: attention really, so I guess I would have noticed. This 502 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: is God, Wait, this happened before when you went missing, 503 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: and you remember we were combing free down for you 504 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: and yes, and it was unnaturally quiet, like we were 505 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: somewhere else, entirely the in between. How is that possible? 506 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: You can't just wander into another dimension. Maybe we didn't. 507 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't about us going into the in between, 508 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 1: but it was about it coming out to us. Maybe ah, 509 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: oh dead, Hey, Okay, what's going on? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Thomas, Okay, 510 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm fine. I just got a bit dizzier Dad death. 511 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren Shippen and 512 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: directed by Brendan Patrick Hughes assistant director Sarah Klein. Sound 513 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: designed by Vincent the Johnny rema Il Kali, Josh Thane, 514 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: and Trevor Young, with music by Chad Austin, starring Misha 515 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan 516 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: Tutick as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen Sony as Vipen Corona, Sabra 517 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: May as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl Umania as Officer Bautista, Will 518 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: Wheaton as Captain Haddock, Tricia Helfer as the Legend Tripper, 519 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: Stephen Guarino as Dr Edwards Nandamisu Demba as Peyton Blake, 520 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: Hilary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Nicki McCauley as Celeste Then, 521 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: Victoria Grace as Katie Franks, with additional voice acting by 522 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: Greta Gould, Shelby Young, Adam oh Byrne Monty, Markham, Charlie Bergman, 523 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: and Tern Westbrook. Executive producers Aaron Manky, Misha Collins, Lauren Shippin, 524 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: Matt Frederick and Alexander Williams. Supervising producers Josh Thane and 525 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: Trevor Young. Bridgewater was created by me Aaron Mankey and 526 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 1: is a production of Grim and Mild and I Heart 527 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: three D Audio. Learn more about the show over at 528 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: Grimm and Mild dot com, slash Bridgewater and find more 529 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: podcasts from I Heart Radio on the I Heart Radio app, 530 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows, 531 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: and as always, thanks for listening.