1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Bridgewater is a production of iHeartRadio three D Audio and 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Grimm and Mild from Aaron Mankey for full exposure. Listen 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: with headphones. Listener discretion advised. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Linda, thank you, and I'm sorry. I mean, 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: you're the dean. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: I should have called you earlier, and I'm sorry for 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 3: not giving you the advanced notice because obviously it put 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: you in a spot. 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: But no, no, no, it's not exactly resolved. 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: But I think the emergency part of the family emergency 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: is over at this point. But anyway, Yeah, thank you, 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. No, no, no, no, no, I don't think 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: a leave of absence is necessary. We caught up on 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 3: quite a lot this morning, and I should be back 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: on schedule by the end of the week. 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Oh really, who's the publisher? Oh well, that's fantastic. No, 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: I don't. 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 3: I don't have any completed chapters that I could share 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: just yet, but I. 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: How how soon do they want that? I could try 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: to do that? 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: So hold on, So just two or three sample chapters 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: and outline whole book. 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, I'm going to get right on that. 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Linda, Okay, bye. 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: Jeremy, Hey you What are you doing here? 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: Were you ever going to tell me that Celestia is dead? 28 00:01:40,560 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: Shit? Can you please close the door? 29 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: What the hell happened the other night? You were supposed 30 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: to protect her? 31 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 5: How exactly was I supposed to do that? You gave 32 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 5: me nothing to go on. It was all set up anyway. 33 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 5: You were never worried about her, of course I was. 34 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: She didn't seem all that surprise to see us. You 35 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 5: sent us there under false pretenses. 36 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 37 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 4: I may not have given you the whole picture, but 38 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: I was concerned about what she was going to do. 39 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: I knew she wanted you for the ritual, and I thought, 40 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 4: I mean, okay, when she told me her plan, I 41 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: just assumed you were an anchor for your dad, that 42 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: she could help him pass over. 43 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that is not what happened. 44 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: So what did happen? 45 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: What did she tell you she was going to do? There? 46 00:02:59,360 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: The viil? 47 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 4: It had been getting weaker and weaker for a long time, 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: and she thought there was finally going to be a 49 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: way to close it. She thought Thomas was stuck like 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: he was holding the doorway open because he wasn't. He 51 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: wasn't what willing sacrifice. 52 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: So you knew you knew that my father had been 53 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: murdered by the gathering. 54 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: By the children of Titchuba. There were something else, something 55 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: twisted and wrong, that is no, I didn't know until 56 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: that night. She told me to come get you, to 57 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: send you an an to her at the ledge. She 58 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: she was going to push Thomas through, finally closed. 59 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 6: The gate for good. 60 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: But she she lied, didn't she that she could close 61 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: the gate without anyone else getting hurt. 62 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what she was thinking, but yes, she jumped. 63 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 64 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 7: Was she happy? 65 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: Was she what? 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 8: Not? 67 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: Okay, maybe happy isn't the right word. 68 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 9: But did she. 69 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: Did she want to be doing it? 70 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, I think so. We tried to stop her. 71 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 5: I tried to call out, I tried to pull her back, 72 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 5: but there was the wind, and there was all this 73 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 5: massive storm. 74 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: And that it would happen very fast. 75 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: What do you mean there was a store? 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a storm. Don't you remember. 77 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: I don't think there was a storm anywhere else? 78 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: Right, of course, you should have told me, honestly, Katie, 79 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: I didn't even it didn't occur to me. 80 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: I mean, the last three days have been. 81 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: I don't know how to begin to describe them to you, 82 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: and I'm not going to so don't ask. I just 83 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: I know that Celeste should have been more on my mind, 84 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: but I feel like I haven't had a chance to breathe. 85 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 3: I am sorry, she's gone me too. How did you 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: find out I haven't seen in the papers anywhere? 87 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 4: Well, they, I mean they called me. Yeah, I guess 88 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 4: I was listed as one of her emergency contacts. They 89 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: couldn't get a hold of any of the others, so 90 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 4: eventually they hit my name on the list. 91 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: Do you know who the others were? 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: Other members of the gathering? I would assume once from 93 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: other places, maybe people Celesti used to. 94 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: Know, And none of them answered. Is this the end 95 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: of the gathering? Do you think Celesti was the leader? Right? 96 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 6: Yeah? 97 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: For our chapter at least. And things have been scattered 98 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: the last few days. 99 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 7: But I've heard read what. 100 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: Celested, the sacrifice she made, it should have calmed everything down. 101 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: But there's been whisperings of another chapter leader coming to 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: Bridgewater to deal with the fallout. 103 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: What fallout? 104 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, it's not over. 105 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: Yet, is it. 106 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: Honestly, Katie, I have no idea. I'm just trying to 107 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: get back to my life and to I don't know, 108 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: start getting to know that the. 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: The new life that this whole situation brought me. Right. So, wait, 110 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: who is this other leader? 111 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: Someone from Virginia? The triangle down there. 112 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 3: The historic Triangle, you know it? Yeah, of course, it's 113 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: a very well known area in the folklore circles. 114 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 4: Well, I guess that makes sense. More supernatural activity means 115 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 4: more members of the gathering. 116 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: And they're coming here because something went wrong with Celeste ritual. 117 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess. 118 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: Do you know who it is? 119 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 4: A woman named Peyton Blake. She's the youngest leader in 120 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 4: the history of the gathering, apparently barely thirty, apparently very knowledgeable. 121 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: Do you think you could give me her contact information? 122 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: I mean, see what I can dig up. But I 123 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: should tell you I'm not going to try to seek 124 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: her out. 125 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: Uh why not? 126 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: Look, I joined the gathering as a way to process 127 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: my grief about my mom, and maybe I don't know, 128 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: maybe I started to believe some of it the longer 129 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: I was part of it. But I'm in way over 130 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: my head now and I'm not sure I want to be. 131 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know how you feel, but I'll try. 132 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: To track her down for you. I mean, as much 133 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: as I want to put all of this behind me, 134 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: you might not. 135 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: Be able to. 136 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie, I'm sorry you had to find out how 137 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: to celast from the police, but you, I don't know. 138 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: You can't expect me to be upfront with you, and 139 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: you haven't been upfront with me. 140 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: I guess that's fair. 141 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: Maybe you and I could just try being honest with 142 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: each other from now on. If this really isn't over, 143 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: then I think we probably want the same things that 144 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: to make sure that whatever's on the other side that 145 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: you all are always talking about doesn't come out. 146 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: Wait, did Sless make a believer out of you? 147 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 7: After all? 148 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: I think there is a lot more going on in 149 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: the Bridgewater Triangle, and I originally thought let's. 150 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: Just say that welcome to the club. 151 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 10: Look, okay, I know that we don't always see I I, 152 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 10: but Maria and I we want to help. I'm not 153 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 10: going to go out of my way to get involved, 154 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 10: but if you need people to help you, we're here. 155 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: Thank you. But actually I think I'm good. I've already 156 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: got a crack team on it. 157 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 6: I'm telling you, the plaid is going to make him 158 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 6: look like the original brownie towel man. 159 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 7: Not now that the mustache is gone. 160 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 6: Oh thank god, Hey, you're you're the. 161 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 7: Immediately assumed you recognized him from that hipster coffee shop. 162 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 9: It's the same. 163 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 7: No, I think the mustache could have been a strong choice. 164 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 6: Too strong, that had to go. 165 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 11: I liked my mustad too bad. 166 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 6: Hey, maybe you can grow a beard. Beards are so 167 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 6: in it and it would cover your face more beard maybe. 168 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 7: Hey, so is this what you expected for a granddaughter 169 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 7: grandfather bonding? 170 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 6: Oh right, you mean did I expect to be spending 171 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 6: my Friday helping my dead grandpa who's only like eight 172 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 6: years older than me shop for skinny jeans? No, not exactly. 173 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 7: Well, Olivia is right, it's somehow still too brownie towel guy. 174 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 6: Okay, the pants are good, though, way better than the 175 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 6: bell bottoms. 176 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 11: I never wore bell bottoms. 177 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 6: Okay, Oh, try the button down and the sweater next. Hey, 178 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 6: thank you for coming, by the way, I know this 179 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 6: whole thing is super weird. 180 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 7: Oh gosh, no, I am happy to do it. 181 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 6: I just I wasn't sure I was ready for the 182 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 6: full one on one with a total stranger i'm biologically 183 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 6: related to. 184 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 7: Yet trust me, I get it. I barely want one 185 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 7: on one time with my grandparents, and I've known them 186 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 7: my whole wife. 187 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 11: What do you all right? What do you what do 188 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 11: you think? 189 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 7: WHOA? 190 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 6: Holy shit? You look well. 191 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 12: I can't look that ridiculous, can I? We had collared 192 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 12: shirts and sweaters in the seventies. 193 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 6: No, no, you look fine. 194 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 7: You just oh you look just you look just like Jeremy. 195 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 6: Really just like him. 196 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 11: I mean it is creepy, all right, So no on 197 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 11: the sweater. 198 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: How do you feel about a Henley? 199 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 11: I don't know, I have no idea. 200 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 6: Great, try it on. 201 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 11: That's a Henley. 202 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 6: Okay, try it with that bomber jacket and the black jeans. 203 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 6: So you're not so cozy with the other coronas. 204 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 7: Oh no, I mean they're fine. I mean they're not 205 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 7: super thrilled that I'm spending my life doing research on 206 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 7: made up stories for children. That's what they say now. 207 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 7: But you know how it is. They're old. 208 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, my dad's parents are kind of like that too. 209 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 6: Never understood my dad working in tech, and so I 210 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 6: understand me even less. How about your parents? Do they 211 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 6: think it's all made up nonsense? 212 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: Oh? 213 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, they're religious Hindu, which is how I was raised. Actually, actually, 214 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 7: became really obsessed with religion when I was a teenager. 215 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 7: I went to church and temple and the mosque, Buddhist centers, 216 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 7: basically anything I could find. It drove them crazy. 217 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 6: That is a lot. Did you ever settle on any 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 6: of them? 219 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 7: I still celebrate the Hindu holidays with them, but I 220 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 7: don't know. I've always had a hard time believing in gods. 221 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 7: The idea of a more powerful being having an effect 222 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 7: on all of us just felt strange. Ideas about the 223 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 7: soul or karma or universal forces, even magical creatures or 224 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 7: monsters like those always made more sense to me. So 225 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 7: I get Hinduism more than a lot of other religions. 226 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 6: But none of it really feels right. 227 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. I guess that's what led me to all 228 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 7: of the cryptozoology. I do think there's an explanation for 229 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 7: most of the weird stuff that's happened in the world, 230 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 7: for the miracles and the ghosts and the myths. I 231 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 7: just think that maybe our scope of understanding it is limited. 232 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 7: For some people, that leads them to religion, and for 233 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 7: me it led me to what my parents consider bigfoot hunting. 234 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 7: I've never been able to make them see that I'm 235 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 7: just seeking out the same answers that they are with 236 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 7: their faith. You know. 237 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 6: Oh, I can totally picture you as a religion obsessed 238 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 6: fifteen year old. Yeah yeah, well, I mean it's all 239 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 6: kind of part of that historical narrative that you're always 240 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 6: talking about. Right, So the stories that we tell ourselves 241 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 6: in religious texts, you know, they aren't that different from 242 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 6: the myths we make up to explain the unexplainable. 243 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 7: See, you should talk to my parents for me. Oh okay, 244 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 7: So I guess a lot of those things are explainable 245 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 7: now because monsters are real. 246 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 6: Well, I'll be sure not to mention that part to them, though. 247 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 6: You know, you should probably ask me out first before 248 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 6: you go introducing me to your parents. 249 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 12: But I feel ridiculous, like I'm pretending to be Jim 250 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 12: Morris or something. 251 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 6: Oh maybe if you kept the shaggy haircut. But I 252 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 6: think you look perfect. 253 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 11: Really, I don't look anything like myself exactly. 254 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 9: And hey, Jeremy, how are things at the university Little Rocky? 255 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: They're okay. My Dean was weirdly not thrilled that I 256 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: missed the last. 257 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: Two days of classes without any morning, But I think 258 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: I was actually able to smooth things over? 259 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 9: Would you tell her? 260 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: I told her truth that I had a family emergency. 261 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 2: I didn't get specifics. 262 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 3: I couldn't exactly tell her that my dad came back 263 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: from the dead, and I didn't. 264 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: Literally did not know what day of the week it was. 265 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: But it's okay. Where is he? 266 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 9: Oh, he's out with Olivia and Vippen. 267 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: Why doing what? 268 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 9: Shopping? 269 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: No? 270 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 9: Getting a haircut? Yeah? 271 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Why? 272 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 9: The kids thought it might be a good idea for 273 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 9: Thomas to you know, blend in a little bit more. 274 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 9: I guess. 275 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he might really like Olivia. 276 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 9: I actually think she asked him to come along. I'm 277 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 9: not sure she was ready to go out with Thomas 278 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 9: on her own, but you. 279 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, juicy gossip. 280 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, how's he doing? Man? You saw him this morning, Jeremy, 281 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 9: I mean. 282 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: I know, I know, but I mean, hey, thank you 283 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: for letting me crash on your couch. 284 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: I think I'm just I'm not really ready to. 285 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 9: Like you don't want to let him out of your side? 286 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 9: I get it. 287 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, does he seem off to you at all? 288 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 9: Off? 289 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: How? I don't know, Like this morning, he was sort 290 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: of still half asleep, and he seemed a little bit disoriented. 291 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 292 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he's just not a morning person. I no, he. 293 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 9: Always liked mornings. Maybe he's just you know, he's just 294 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 9: not used to sleep when yet or something? 295 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: Right? 296 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: I guess that makes sense. 297 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: I mean, like his food thing. His whole body has 298 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: to be adjusting. 299 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: M Jesus. Would that have been my room? What your 300 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: guest room? Would that have been? 301 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: That? 302 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: That was gonna be my room, wasn't it? 303 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 8: Uh? 304 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that was the plan. Shelley would have stayed 305 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 9: with us in our room while she was a baby, 306 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 9: and then you guys might have shared for a little 307 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 9: bit before we could afford a bigger place. 308 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: And then you never needed a bigger place? 309 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 9: No I didn't. 310 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: And what what happens? 311 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: Now? 312 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: Where do we go from here? 313 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 9: I have no idea. 314 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: Does he get a job? Does he go back to 315 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: working on the forest? Am I gonna fucking die before him? 316 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: Or is he just going to disappear one day in 317 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: two years from now? Because this is all just borrowed time? 318 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 9: I mean, see, you're spiraling? 319 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: How are you not? 320 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: The man? 321 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: The man you love is back? But man, he's forty 322 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: years younger than you. 323 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks, I noticed. 324 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: I mean, how does any how does any of this work? 325 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 9: I don't know. I mean, we did it. You know, 326 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 9: we got him back. It's more than I could have 327 00:16:59,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 9: ever hoped for. 328 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: You don't feel like it's it's a monkey's paw or something. 329 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 9: Well, sure I do. I mean I got them back, 330 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 9: but I can't get the last four decades back to 331 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 9: spend with them. Oh. We miss an entire life together, 332 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 9: and I mean, you know, I know that we can't 333 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 9: be together now, not really, but I mean there's no 334 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 9: life for us. A build. 335 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: Doesn't it like eat you up? 336 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 9: Of course it does. But me coming to terms with 337 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 9: the cruel irony of my situation is not the same 338 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 9: as you waiting for the other shoe to drop. 339 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: It's just a. 340 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 9: If there's one silver lining to me missing out on 341 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 9: my life, it's that the two of you have gotten 342 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 9: yours ahead of you. I mean, you're the one that 343 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 9: got robbed, Jeremy. I'd give up a lot more for 344 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 9: you and Shelley to have time with your dad. 345 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Shelley, what are you gonna tell her? 346 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 9: I don't know, I don't know. I mean, Olivia doesn't 347 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 9: want me to keep it from her. She doesn't think 348 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 9: it's fair. 349 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, But what. 350 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 9: If telling her I'm putting her in danger. I mean, 351 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 9: there's still something roman around out. 352 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: There, and maybe it's not our problem anymore. 353 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: What Look, Katie Franks came to see me earlier, and 354 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: she says, there's this new gathering leader who's on our 355 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: way up from Virginia and maybe she can just take 356 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: care of this. 357 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 9: I'm not sure that we can rely on I'm stranger 358 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 9: from another state to fix things here. 359 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: I also met someone outside of Oakley Farms. You did? 360 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 9: Why didn't you say? 361 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: Well? 362 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 363 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: I guess I just got distracted. It wasn't really much 364 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: of anything. It's just another hobbyist. But she's part of 365 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: this group of legend trippers who've all they've come to 366 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: Bridgewater to look into all the strange stuff that's been happening. 367 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 2: So maybe we can just like keep. 368 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: An eye on them and hear about any other attacks 369 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: and then just like, I don't know, just go from there. 370 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: I I don't know. I just think that we can 371 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: maybe afford to do a little outsourcing. 372 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 9: Here, Okay. And if all of this really is the 373 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 9: Fay Realm like Vipen and Olivia think. Doesn't that mean 374 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 9: we're dealing with much bigger issue here? 375 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe, but Fay myths are incredibly broad 376 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 5: and until we have something concrete. 377 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 11: And I know my. 378 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 3: Dad wants to get Alden out and he wants to 379 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: figure out what's going on with the in between but 380 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 3: come on, it took us forty years to get him out. 381 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: Don't you think we've done enough? Ah? 382 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 6: Tassa pepper. 383 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 7: Oh, here you go. 384 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 12: So you really think that all of this the in 385 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 12: between space? What happened to me? It's fairies? 386 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 7: Yep, that's the working theory. 387 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 11: I thought fairies were tiny and harmless. 388 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 7: That's the modern Disney version of them. But the Fay realm, well, 389 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 7: depending on when and where the myth is from, it 390 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 7: can encompass so much. 391 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 6: Oh exactly on the version that's small and impish, like 392 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 6: luring children into the woods, that appears in so many 393 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 6: different cultures, like fairies and hobgoblins in Europe, Puck wedgies here. 394 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 7: Right, everyone using different language to describe the same thing. 395 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 11: Okay, then which version of the myth do we think 396 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 11: is correct? 397 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 7: I don't think it's about one group of people getting 398 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 7: it all right. It might be all true to some degree. 399 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 7: I mean, it's like the Abrahamic religions, right. The God 400 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 7: is the same across Christianity and Judaism and Islam, but 401 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 7: a lot of the details are different. 402 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 11: So what's the God in this situation? The one unifying thing. 403 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 7: The fay Realm. I guess it appears basically in every 404 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 7: myth tradition, just not always in the same way. 405 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 11: The other side. That's what the gathering calls it, right, right, 406 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 11: I think it's. 407 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 6: A place where spirits are and the afterlife essentially. 408 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 11: I guess the only other soul I saw it was 409 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 11: all the It's not. 410 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 7: Always just about the afterlife, though, Mount Olympus could be 411 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 7: considered the other world, even though they had the underworld too, 412 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 7: or Valhalla or reu Gujo, a Japanese land of dragons 413 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 7: under the sea. There's actually a whole folk story about 414 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 7: a man who went to reu Gujo for three days 415 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 7: and then came back to his life three hundred years 416 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 7: had passed. 417 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 11: Sounds familiar. 418 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 7: And that's not even including the liminal spaces, the river sticks, Purgatory, 419 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 7: chinwit Bridge. Sometimes there are not even places but times, 420 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 7: the day of the dead, all hallows, eve seances, even 421 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 7: any place or time that connects this side to the 422 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 7: other side, whatever the other side might be. 423 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 6: So we think the in between space that Thomas was 424 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 6: in was really like a halfway to the other side, 425 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 6: like river sticks. 426 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 7: It would make sense. 427 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 11: Right where did you guys learn all this stuff? 428 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 7: Well, I'm getting my PhD in it, so kind of 429 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 7: have to know it all. 430 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 11: But Olivia, you don't work in folklore like Jeremy. 431 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 6: Right, No, but I have access to the Internet. Oh 432 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 6: did Jeremy explain the Internet to you? 433 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 12: It sort of honestly sounds just as made up as 434 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 12: the favor realm or some idea of monsters coming over 435 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 12: a kind of bridge, at least that stuff I've actually experienced. 436 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 6: Don't worry, we'll work up to the dark web. 437 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 7: What everything seems mysterious when you're first learning about it. 438 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 7: We think of the Fey realm and monsters as something 439 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 7: magical and impossible. But what if they're just another species 440 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 7: that's just really different from ours, like those fish that 441 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 7: live in the bottom of the. 442 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 6: Ocean, another species that lives in another dimension with a 443 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 6: bunch of supernatural beasts. 444 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 7: I know, I know, it sounds far fetched. Your dead. 445 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 7: Grandpa's currently dipping a French fry into his milkshake. 446 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: So it's delicious. 447 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I can say if we say, I will 448 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 7: never confirm that for myself. 449 00:22:59,320 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 11: You're missing out. 450 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 6: Wait, what does that make magic? I mean Celeste and 451 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 6: the children of Titchubo were able to open up the gate. 452 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 6: So there's something at work here. 453 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 7: Whatever it is, magic or physics, we don't understand. It 454 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 7: has to have rules. We just need to find out 455 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 7: what they are. 456 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 12: Okay, Well, we know that things happen on a forty 457 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 12: year cycle, and that it seems to need two souls 458 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 12: at any given time. There was someone with Alden before 459 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 12: I appeared. He's always had someone with him until now. 460 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 12: Celeste didn't get all the way through. She broke one 461 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 12: of the rules. I broke them, and we have no 462 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 12: idea what the consequences of that are going to be. 463 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 6: Come on, but let's get out of here. If it, 464 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 6: Ben will drop you off at years on our way, 465 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 6: on our way to what to deal with some of 466 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 6: the consequences. 467 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 9: Jeremy, I don't think Thomas is going to see it 468 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 9: that way. He feels responsible to all of them. 469 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 5: I know that, But what about his responsibility to us, 470 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: to himself. Well, we can't spend the rest of our 471 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 5: lives trying to control the Bridgewater Triangle because it's out 472 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 5: of control. 473 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 9: Okay, how about starting with trying to learn more about it? Okay, 474 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 9: don't you still have a book to write? 475 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't even know how I'm supposed to write 476 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 5: a book now. The entire premise of it was that 477 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 5: people in the Bridgewater Triangle have this unique relationship to myth. 478 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 5: They're spending centuries stealing legends from the Wampanoague and bringing 479 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 5: legends to of their own, then mixing them together to 480 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 5: create something particular to this place. How many times have 481 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 5: I said this place? And it was all about urban 482 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 5: legends influencing culture and vice versa. 483 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: Except not da da. 484 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 5: It turns out they weren't really legends at all, because 485 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 5: people in the Bridgewater Triangle have been and are being 486 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 5: attacked by real fucking monsters. 487 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: By entire life's work is all bullshit. I've been made. 488 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 5: Reality has turned me into a complete fraud. And on 489 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 5: top of all of that, I'm the same fucking age 490 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 5: as my father. I'm sorry, I just like I feel 491 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 5: like I can't even breathe. 492 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 9: Anne, I understand. I get that, Jeremy, I really do, 493 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 9: I really do. But what about Alton? Okay, he is 494 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 9: just a kid. 495 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: I know, but for all we know, there is nothing 496 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 2: that we can do about it. 497 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 3: Right? 498 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 9: But then what about the balance that Celeste was always 499 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 9: talking about? 500 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 5: If whoever whatever controls the triangle or the gate or 501 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 5: the fucking in between whatever this is, isn't happy with the 502 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 5: way things are. 503 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: I am quite confident that they're gonna make it known. 504 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 9: Okay, An, then don't you think we should get ahead 505 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 9: of this? 506 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: I don't understand what is this about? What is it? 507 00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: Why are you so eager to find more problems? Aren't 508 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: you tired? 509 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 11: Of course? 510 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 9: Of course I am, Honey. This is what I do. 511 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 9: I figure things out, you know, I mean I've fixed them. 512 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, but as you were just talking about, and you 513 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 5: missed your entire life because of it. 514 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: That's not fair, really, it isn't. 515 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 5: And you're right, my dad and I we have a 516 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 5: chance now to really get to know each other. 517 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, So why the rush, right? I mean, we 518 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 9: can figure all of this out and then you can 519 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 9: have that time. But I know that you'll both be safe. 520 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 5: And I'm sick of trying to change things that I 521 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: can't control. Do you really think that we can figure 522 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 5: this out enough to fight against it? Celeste did the 523 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 5: ritual wrong, We're definitely not going to do it right. 524 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: We need to enjoy this while. 525 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 9: We can, while we can. 526 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: What if it takes him back? 527 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 6: Wait? 528 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 9: What? 529 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: This is so much bigger than any of us, and 530 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 5: I can't I can't wrap my head around it at all. 531 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 5: And it was literally this was literally my job to 532 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 5: understand all of this crap. But now it's th real, 533 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 5: the cycle, the balance, the Faye realm, the goddamn dog, 534 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 5: all in It's all so beyond. 535 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: My scope that I don't even see the point. 536 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 5: I don't see the point in trying what I do see. 537 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: I see. 538 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 5: I see a chance at a second chance, and for 539 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,239 Speaker 5: whatever reason, I'm getting that and having a dad, And 540 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 5: until something happens that forces me to confront all of 541 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 5: this other shit, that is what I am going to 542 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 5: focus on. 543 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 9: Jeremy is not going away again. 544 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 5: Don't You can't say that you don't know that, And 545 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 5: that is the whole point. None of us know anything. 546 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 5: Celeste is dead, She's not somewhere else. So if everything 547 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: is still fucked up that we have a ticking clock here. 548 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I just. 549 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: What the hell? Power search? Earthquake? 550 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 9: What get away from the windows? 551 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: And what's happening? I don't know? 552 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: And and what do we do? What do we do? 553 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: I don't know? 554 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 555 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 9: Do you hear that? 556 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 5: What? 557 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: Nothing? 558 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 11: There's nothing? Are you sure this is a good idea? 559 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 6: We have to rip the band aid off sometime, you know, 560 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 6: especially if knowing everything could help her stay safe. So 561 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 6: the sooner the better. But while she's working, well, I 562 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 6: figure it lowers the freak out chances, trust me, okay, 563 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 6: because banks are just nice and quiet. 564 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 8: Knock knock, I have high honey, what are you doing here? 565 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 6: Sorry for the unexpected drive by, but we were in 566 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 6: the neighborhood. 567 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 8: And did you finish whatever you're helping your nana with? Oh? Sorry, Hi, 568 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 8: who's this? 569 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 6: Mom? This is Thomas. 570 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 8: Hello Thomas, I'm Shelley. I'm Olivia's mom. 571 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I know, so mom. 572 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 6: This is Thomas Bradshaw. 573 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 8: Oh hi, okay, Bradshaw is in Jeremy's brother. I didn't 574 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 8: I didn't know he had a brother. 575 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 6: Oh no, this is not his brother. So I'm just 576 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 6: going to tell you some stuff, and I need you 577 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 6: to know that I'm not messing with you live. 578 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 8: What are you talking about? 579 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 6: Does the name Thomas Bradshaw sound they get all familiar 580 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 6: to you. 581 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 8: That was Mom's old partner, right, the one who died 582 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 8: well missing. 583 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 11: It turns out I'm still very much alive. 584 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 8: You Okay, I don't understand. 585 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, right, So all that stuff Nana told you 586 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 6: growing up about Bridgewater and how weird it is and 587 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 6: how something happened to her partner, something that defied explanation, 588 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 6: yeah that was all true. And so this is Thomas 589 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: Bradshaw who went missing in nineteen eighty, except he wasn't 590 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 6: so much missing as he was trapped in a magical 591 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 6: dimension where time didn't really pass, which is why he 592 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 6: looks closer to your age than Nana's, even though he's 593 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 6: really old enough to be your father. And by old enough, 594 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 6: I mean he is your father and my grandfather. So 595 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 6: that's what's happening. 596 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 7: What HI. 597 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 8: With. I don't really understand what you're doing. 598 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 12: I know it's a lot to take in from me too, 599 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 12: and I know Anne would want to talk to you 600 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 12: explaining everything, but I couldn't wait to meet you I've 601 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 12: been waiting to meet you for. 602 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 8: Forty No, no, you're crazy and you're here's some sort 603 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 8: of scammer or a creep. 604 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 6: But and then no, no, mom, this is real, Olivia. 605 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 6: It is I promise, Shelley. 606 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 11: You can ask me anything you want and I'll tell 607 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 11: you everything that I can. 608 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 8: Really. Okay, listen, I don't know what your game is here, 609 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 8: but you are going to stay away from my daughter, Mom, Olivia. 610 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 8: It's not your fault, honey. This man is clearly praying 611 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 8: on you, and so I will now just stop it stop. 612 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 8: You will get out of here right now, Shelley. Please, 613 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 8: if you do not leave in the next five seconds, 614 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 8: I am pressing my panic along. 615 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 6: Oh my god, Mom, he's not trying to rob the. 616 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 8: Place, and then the police will be dragging your sick 617 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 8: predator asked to jail before you can blink. So you 618 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 8: have options, Mom. 619 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 11: Olivia, It's okay. 620 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 8: I'll go fantastic, and if you so much as look 621 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 8: at my daughter again, I won't wait for the police. 622 00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 8: Do you understand me? 623 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 9: Yeah? 624 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 6: Okay, just go worked. 625 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 8: And animal, No, do not go near my mother. 626 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 7: Mom. 627 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 6: He's gonna go okay, and and you and I will. 628 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 8: Talk I mean it, stay away from my. 629 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 11: Family, Okay, I understand. I am so sorry for springing 630 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 11: this on you. 631 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: Shelley. 632 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 11: I'm so sorry for so much. 633 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: I don't understand. How is this happening? 634 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 9: I don't know. 635 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: This is not a natural quiet Dad, Jeremy, hey you okay? 636 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 11: Well, actually I need to talk to both of you. 637 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 9: We need to talk to you too. Something just happened. 638 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 11: What do you mean, Wait, what's going on? Why is everything? 639 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 11: Why can't I hear anything? 640 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 2: We don't know. There was this earthquake and then everything 641 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: went quiet inside. 642 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 9: So we came out here and it was the same thing. 643 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 11: An earthquake. 644 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: I don't know that's what it felt like. It was 645 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: it quiet when you were walking on I don't know. 646 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 11: I wasn't paying attention really, so I guess I would 647 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 11: have noticed. This is God, Wait, this. 648 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 12: Happened before when you went missing, and you remember we 649 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 12: were combing Freetown. 650 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 9: For you and yes, and it was unnaturally quiet, like we. 651 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 11: Were somewhere else, entirely the in between. 652 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: How is that possible? You can't just wander into another dimension. 653 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 11: Maybe we didn't. 654 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 12: Maybe it wasn't about us going into the in between, 655 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 12: but it was about it coming out to us. 656 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: Maybe, ah, whoa dad? Hey you okay, what's going on? 657 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 11: Yeah? 658 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah yeah, Thomas you okay. 659 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 11: I'm fine. I just got a bit dizzy, dad, Dad. 660 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren Shippen and 661 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: directed by Brendan Patrick Hughes Assistant director Sarah Kleine. Sound 662 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: designed by Vincent de Johnny rema El Kali, Josh Thane, 663 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: and Trevor Young, with music by Chad Law. Starring Misha 664 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan 665 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: Tudick as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen Sony as Vipen Kurana, Sabra 666 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: May as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl Umanya as Officer Bautista, Will 667 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: Wheaton as Captain Haddock, Tricia Helfer as the Legend Tripper, 668 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: Stephen Guarino as Doctor Edwards nand Misiu Dambe as Peyton Blake, 669 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Nicky McCauley as Celeste, 670 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: and Victoria Grace as Katie Franks, with additional voice acting 671 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 1: by Greta Gould, Shelby Young, Adam O'byrn Monte Markham, Charlie Bergman, 672 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: and Tarren Westbrook. Executive producers Aaron Manke, Misha Collins, Lauren Shippen, 673 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: Matt Frederick and Alexander Williams. Supervising producers Josh Thain and 674 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: Trevor Young. Bridgewater was created by me Aaron Manke and 675 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: is a production of Grim and Mild and iHeart three 676 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: D Audio. Learn more about the show over at Grimandmild 677 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: dot com, slash Bridgewater and find more podcasts from iHeartRadio 678 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen 679 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows, and as always, thanks for listening.