Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 2: All right, break it down.
Speaker 3: If you ever have feelings that you just fonts Amy
Speaker 3: and Cat gotcha covincking No, brother, ladies and folks, do you.
Speaker 2: Just follow an the spirit where it's on the front
Speaker 2: and real stuff.
Speaker 3: To the chill stuff and the m but Swayne, sometimes
Speaker 3: the best thing you can do it just stop you
Speaker 3: feel things. This is feeling things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Kat.
Speaker 2: And today for our feeling of the day, well, Kat
Speaker 2: and I both have one, and I feel like our
Speaker 2: feeling is going to be similar or even the same.
Speaker 2: So I just want to count to three and after
Speaker 2: three we just say our feeling and we see if
Speaker 2: it's the same. Okay, Okay, Am I gonna go one?
Speaker 2: Two three or three?
Speaker 3: Two?
Speaker 2: One? Should we count up or down?
Speaker 3: Does it matter? Okay?
Speaker 4: Up?
Speaker 2: Okay? One two three? Gosh, I mean that's similar.
Speaker 3: Because wait, make sure that they heard what you said.
Speaker 2: I said accomplished and I am feeling in awe of
Speaker 2: myself right and I know based on what we both
Speaker 2: got done and accomplished in our lives recently and how
Speaker 2: proud we are of ourselves. That's why I thought we
Speaker 2: may have the same word, and I was going back
Speaker 2: and forth between proud and accomplished and just all around
Speaker 2: awesome but a tiny bit confused because it's like I've
Speaker 2: asked myself a lot the last few days. Why am
Speaker 2: I this way? Why am I this way?
Speaker 3: Well, okay, back up, why do you feel you're not
Speaker 3: feeling in all of yourself? That's me? Why are you
Speaker 3: feeling accomplished?
Speaker 2: Well? Kat and I have been living a very similar life.
Speaker 3: It's like we're synced up in more ways than one,
Speaker 3: and we.
Speaker 2: Keep learning all these different ways. We're like, oh, it's
Speaker 2: another thing where we're the same, and it likely is
Speaker 2: just how our brains operate. Kat has been thinking about
Speaker 2: moving and some of that has been underway, which is great.
Speaker 2: But when things get you know, down to the wire
Speaker 2: and stuff is starting to get real. I mean the motivation,
Speaker 2: like the dopamine.
Speaker 3: The pressure. It's the pressure, but it's.
Speaker 2: Also exciting and I can't explain it. It's like there's
Speaker 2: rush and things that I know you've been putting off
Speaker 2: for a long time you finally were able to do.
Speaker 2: I'm not really moving, but for a few days I
Speaker 2: acted like I was because I found this house that
Speaker 2: came on the market. That is me.
Speaker 3: Were you looking on Zillo Yeah.
Speaker 2: As a hobby, Yeah, it's really fun. And then this
Speaker 2: house popped up and it spoke to me and I
Speaker 2: was like, this is so great. Yeah, everything about it
Speaker 2: is so perfect. And I did just move sort of recently.
Speaker 2: Me moving now does not make sense, but I was
Speaker 2: making it make sense, you know, Yeah, you just nag,
Speaker 2: nagel that, and I'm like, it'll be fine and this
Speaker 2: will be a good investment. And I was convincing myself.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Come to find out, during the week that I thought
Speaker 2: I was moving, I got so much done. But now
Speaker 2: I'm not moving. But the trick that I played on
Speaker 2: my brain during that week was epic.
Speaker 3: So anytime you need to get something done, you have
Speaker 3: to be like, I'm moving next week.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, like, I think it has to
Speaker 2: be kind of real. It feels now like it was
Speaker 2: a trick on my brain because of how it ended up,
Speaker 2: which ultimately came down to the wire because the house
Speaker 2: got another offer from somebody else. So then now it's
Speaker 2: like pressure's on. I need to put an offer in
Speaker 2: if like I'm for real, for real, And suddenly everything
Speaker 2: that was so perfect that I was seeing. I started
Speaker 2: to see flaws in the and started to see how
Speaker 2: this doesn't really make sense, and you know, silly things
Speaker 2: like capital gains, like who cares if I haven't owned
Speaker 2: my house for a year. And then it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's be responsible and not ridiculous. Although I do think
Speaker 2: what I were to if this is what I convinced myself,
Speaker 2: what I was going to lose in capital gains, i'd
Speaker 2: make back because this is such a perfect investment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you told me that it may take five to ten years,
Speaker 2: but it would be worth it.
Speaker 3: I had to stay in that house for that long, correct,
Speaker 3: So when you sent me because I was on vacation
Speaker 3: and you sent me that list of things you had
Speaker 3: to do, the punch list, Yes, And I never thought
Speaker 3: like in my head, I was like, wow, it's so random.
Speaker 3: Time for her to finally be putting knobs on her refrigerator.
Speaker 3: But good for her. I never thought like, she's probably
Speaker 3: trying to move because you literally moved a year ago
Speaker 3: and your house is like perfectly you like, maybe not perfect,
Speaker 3: but like you've updated it to make it your style.
Speaker 3: And then I was thinking moving is the worst. Why
Speaker 3: would you want to do that?
Speaker 2: Moving is awful, It's totally awful, Like, I don't know
Speaker 2: if I was just craving chaos. In fact, I texted
Speaker 2: my friend Claire and she just replied back, is it
Speaker 2: possible your brain is craving the dopamine hit of all
Speaker 2: of this?
Speaker 3: Lol?
Speaker 2: And I was like, interesting, trying nice about it. It's
Speaker 2: craving the dopamine hit or it's craving chaos, which you
Speaker 2: know I used to see chaos in relationship. Well, now
Speaker 2: if I don't have that, because my relationship is healthy too,
Speaker 2: am I seeking chaos? Just like create make life more
Speaker 2: complicated than it needs to be. But he took the
Speaker 2: kids to look at the house and they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is it was really cool great, took the boyfriend
Speaker 2: to look at it. He of course picked out small
Speaker 2: little details like things that bother like. He's like, look
Speaker 2: at this trim work, and I'm like, trimwork, trimwork.
Speaker 3: It's fine.
Speaker 2: He's like, why are the outlets this way? And I
Speaker 2: was like, I would never hopel that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, we'll get new plate covers like that.
Speaker 2: That's why He's like, well, but you have to look
Speaker 2: like if this is what you're spending, this is what
Speaker 2: you should be getting, and you want to pay attention
Speaker 2: to these things. He's like, I'm not saying this stuff
Speaker 2: is a is a no go or a no brainer.
Speaker 2: But he's just way more analytical and I'm more of like,
Speaker 2: but how about.
Speaker 3: The vibe, Like this wallpaper is really cool?
Speaker 2: Like what's the feeling you have right now? Because in
Speaker 2: the backyard, I was like, feeling.
Speaker 3: I have is the crown molding is off. It's like
Speaker 3: cheaply done, very really very Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's like, this is basically some two by four is
Speaker 2: just thrown up here and painted black to look chic,
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, it's giving, it's giving chic.
Speaker 2: It's giving chic and I like it. And the backyard
Speaker 2: was so zen.
Speaker 3: Well, in the backyard, I was like, was this an airbnb?
Speaker 3: It felt like I said, to you, this looks like
Speaker 3: a resort.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was quaint. It wasn't anything big or overwhelming.
Speaker 2: In fact, there was no real yard to take care of.
Speaker 2: Even though the yard was zen.
Speaker 3: It was like it was a zen garden. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: there was some.
Speaker 2: Plants that need to stay alive, but they had a
Speaker 2: little sprinkler system.
Speaker 3: Attached to that, so I was like, this is do
Speaker 3: aball person. Ye, well, would you have missed your backyard?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I think I would have really enjoyed that space. But
Speaker 2: congrats to whomever put in the offer that then made
Speaker 2: me decide I'm not willing to be in a competition
Speaker 2: for this house because it's really not for me. However,
Speaker 2: I'm very thankful for the week that I was gonna
Speaker 2: maybe do it, because yes, have I needed to pick
Speaker 2: out knobs and pulls from my kitchen drawers and cabinets
Speaker 2: for nine to twelve months, Absolutely, And have I had
Speaker 2: any urgency to do so, No, But then you make
Speaker 2: me make decisions and I can order curtains. I can.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously some of the things I had to
Speaker 2: hire people to do, but it's like the thought of
Speaker 2: spending that money was now like, it's okay, we just
Speaker 2: need to get this done. Although I will say I
Speaker 2: got a quote to paint my laundry room and it
Speaker 2: was ridiculous, So Sashira and I painted the laundry room myself,
Speaker 2: so that also felt good.
Speaker 3: You're in process of painting the launder room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's by the time this airs it will
Speaker 2: be being painted. Yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to keep you on it.
Speaker 2: But you started it, I did, Yeah, and it will
Speaker 2: be finished. Yeah, future me, it's finished.
Speaker 3: That's so funny that Alex said that when you brought
Speaker 3: him to the house, because when I brought my dad,
Speaker 3: not Patrick, because Patrick's brain's kind of like me. He's like,
Speaker 3: this is the best thing ever. I brought my dad
Speaker 3: to one of the houses we were looking at. I
Speaker 3: knew within thirty seconds. I was like, you hate this house,
Speaker 3: don't you. He's like, I don't hate it. My mom
Speaker 3: was like, just let him do his thing. He's like, well,
Speaker 3: you need a new water heater and he was like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go into the crawl space. He's like do
Speaker 3: you have a flashlight? And I'm like, you have one
Speaker 3: on your phone and like just say that you hate
Speaker 3: the house. And he was like, I don't hate the house.
Speaker 3: You just need to do this. You need to do this,
Speaker 3: You need to do this, you need do this. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of work and the floor sucks
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah blah. And I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: you hate the house. However, when I went to see
Speaker 3: that house for the second time, there's a dead bunny
Speaker 3: in the yard.
Speaker 2: Is that a sign?
Speaker 3: Yes? I said that to Patrick, I said, we can
Speaker 3: get this house, so dead bunny in the backyard. What
Speaker 3: if the.
Speaker 2: Dead bunny is good luck?
Speaker 3: Because would that be a sign of good luck?
Speaker 2: Because when I first bought this house, there was a
Speaker 2: dead blue jay a couple months after I moved here.
Speaker 2: And my dad is a blue jay. I know this
Speaker 2: is gonna sound psychotic, but you know how my mom
Speaker 2: is a cardin all, my dad is a blue jay. Well,
Speaker 2: then there was a dead blue jay right outside my
Speaker 2: back porch, like under this beautiful tree.
Speaker 3: Alive blue jay.
Speaker 2: Sure you would think. But then I googled the meaning
Speaker 2: behind it or what it could mean, and it was
Speaker 2: about new beginnings.
Speaker 3: Dead rabbit.
Speaker 2: Me. Well, we just need to look it up. You
Speaker 2: can make anything mean what you want it to mean.
Speaker 2: I'll figure it out.
Speaker 3: Don't worry. We didn't get that house, so I hope
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that house.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought that that was the one that was.
Speaker 3: The first house you're excited about. And also my dad
Speaker 3: does know a lot about houses. He builds houses, so
Speaker 3: I was like, dad hates it. Like I need to
Speaker 3: think about this again, and then yeah, you start to
Speaker 3: see things You're like, why isn't there any trim around anything?
Speaker 3: Or why is this this way? Or this bathroom would
Speaker 3: be a lot of work, and then you're putting together
Speaker 3: all the money you would pay to fix the things,
Speaker 3: and then you're like, why could just get a nicer house.
Speaker 3: So then we found another house and my dad liked
Speaker 3: it a lot better. But it was just funny that
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's perfect. My Dad's like, no, it's not.
Speaker 3: But that's another thing that was actually very helpful in
Speaker 3: this process of looking at houses, because I get so
Speaker 3: excited and I'm like, yeah, let's just sign the contract now.
Speaker 3: And then my brother was helping me look at houses,
Speaker 3: and he was like, not everything is perfect about this house.
Speaker 3: There are some great things about it, but it's not perfect.
Speaker 3: And so it helped me take some of the emotion
Speaker 3: out of it so I could make a wise decision
Speaker 3: and not just like be excited about the idea of moving,
Speaker 3: because I had to actually spend a whole session of
Speaker 3: my own therapy trying to figure out am I wanting
Speaker 3: to do this because the dopamine hit and I want
Speaker 3: something exciting and I want to be able to control
Speaker 3: something because a lot of my life is out of
Speaker 3: control and I can't plan a trip right now, or
Speaker 3: is this the right thing for me to do right
Speaker 3: now in my life? And it's the right thing.
Speaker 2: So it turns out that it is the right thing.
Speaker 2: That I think it's good that you took the time
Speaker 2: to process that. Whenever decisions we have going on, I
Speaker 2: think sometimes we can move too quickly with the emotion.
Speaker 2: Thankfully I had the other people that were swooping into
Speaker 2: buy the house because it allowed me to pause, because
Speaker 2: otherwise I was riding those emotions and they were rad
Speaker 2: and high.
Speaker 3: And then you would get this house and you'd be
Speaker 3: like shoot, and.
Speaker 2: I was like hop on, everybody, buckle up or buying
Speaker 2: a house, and most people were like, huh, this is weird,
Speaker 2: this is weird, But okay. I could also appreciate those
Speaker 2: that were being really supportive and excited too, because we
Speaker 2: could make it make sense. But you and I both
Speaker 2: are just thankful for the motivation and the dope mean
Speaker 2: that we got out of our situations. Because Kat has
Speaker 2: been selling things on Facebook marketplace left and right, and
Speaker 2: I want you to go over your list of things
Speaker 2: that you've been able to sell, because if people walk
Speaker 2: away from this episode with anything, it is that I'm
Speaker 2: in kisage right now from Facebook from a buyer from
Speaker 2: a buyer. She's been wheeling and dealing the whole time
Speaker 2: she's been at my house, and it's like, you can
Speaker 2: be a money magnet. You likely have things all over
Speaker 2: your house that you could sell and make an extra
Speaker 2: Oh shoo, hundred three hundred, or in Cat's case, she's
Speaker 2: made seven hundred dollars in the last week. What are
Speaker 2: you oh shooting?
Speaker 3: I was distracted and I'm being bad at Facebook Marketplace
Speaker 3: because I told somebody they could come get this furniture,
Speaker 3: but I already sold that set.
Speaker 2: Your rating's going down.
Speaker 3: Oh shoot, okay.
Speaker 2: Well we're doing a podcast, ight now.
Speaker 3: Let me read you Okay. I will say. If I've
Speaker 3: learned anything through this move, it's that I can make
Speaker 3: a buck fast by going through all my classes. And
Speaker 3: they had four sets of patio furniture in my backyard
Speaker 3: that I never sat in.
Speaker 2: Your backyard isn't even big.
Speaker 3: Where was this stuff? I have a nice size s
Speaker 3: backyard for where I live. It was all in the
Speaker 3: corner of my backyard, collecting dust.
Speaker 2: I wasn't like Dissy, your backyard sucks, no God, but
Speaker 2: I'm just clarifying for people. It sounds like you had
Speaker 2: four different patio sets, like how does al.
Speaker 3: Was piled together? It didn't look nice? Oh okay, yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: And I actually didn't buy any of them. They're all
Speaker 3: like patio furniture that my mom got new patio furniture
Speaker 3: and kept giving me her old stuff. So I really
Speaker 3: made a lot of money because I'm selling things that
Speaker 3: people gave to me for free.
Speaker 2: Smaller.
Speaker 3: But my friend told me, she said, write down everything
Speaker 3: you sell, because when you sell something for like five dollars,
Speaker 3: it feels like, oh, this is a waste of time.
Speaker 3: But then when you look at it, all I've made like,
Speaker 3: well if that if I would have told that person
Speaker 3: the right thing, I would have made like eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: We're in the seven hundreds. Do you want to know
Speaker 3: what I sold?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, you can sell anything. I sold a opened
Speaker 3: pack of bubbles for my wedding.
Speaker 2: I sold it like bottles with bubblic.
Speaker 3: Individual little We didn't use them because it rained.
Speaker 2: Did they say like Cat and Patrick Forever?
Speaker 3: No, they have like little hearts on the end of them.
Speaker 3: I don't know where the why some of them were
Speaker 3: taken because we didn't use them, but anyway, somebody bought those.
Speaker 3: I sold a digital camera that I bought when I
Speaker 3: was gonna start recording episodes of You Need Therapy, and
Speaker 3: then I was like, this is too hard, so that
Speaker 3: I sold an umbrella that I found in my storage bin.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know I had it. I never opened it.
Speaker 2: An umbrella like a I'm sorry, a patio brea.
Speaker 3: I could have sold umbrella. I sold patio furniture, rain boots,
Speaker 3: a clothing rack, disco ball planters, drink dispensers from my wedding,
Speaker 3: a sparkle backdrop wall and easel to hold a sign,
Speaker 3: my second option of shoes from my wedding that I
Speaker 3: never wore, two dresses from Anthropology, two alo sports bras,
Speaker 3: a purse, and sound panels well packing.
Speaker 2: That clothes were on there. I mean, I guess I've
Speaker 2: always thought poshmark for clothes and furniture and house goods
Speaker 2: for Facebook Marketplace or you know, bicycles or yeahs even
Speaker 2: but I didn't know dresses. So that's good information because
Speaker 2: then you don't have to pay the cut to Poshmark.
Speaker 3: No, but I will say I sold them for low dollar.
Speaker 3: I think I could have sold them for more on Poshmark, okay,
Speaker 3: and then lost that. I just wanted them gone gone.
Speaker 2: Because you were in You're in the mood, you're wheeling
Speaker 2: in dealing.
Speaker 3: Yes, And now I'm like, oh, I can get something
Speaker 3: nice for my new house and it will feel like
Speaker 3: it was free exactly girl the math.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh guess what I feel like because I didn't
Speaker 2: get that house. I have way more money.
Speaker 3: So I get that too. Like I was like, I've
Speaker 3: just made so much fun.
Speaker 2: I was like, so sure, do you want to go
Speaker 2: shopping because like, I just feel well, it was tax
Speaker 2: free weekends. So I also wanted to get her back
Speaker 2: to school things. But I felt like I shopped more
Speaker 2: for her with ease because I thought, look, all is funny.
Speaker 2: I just saved not moving. I didn't lose capital gains.
Speaker 2: This is amazing. What else do we need? I mean,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense at all. I get that it
Speaker 2: does for a second, It just like the feeling is different.
Speaker 2: And when I was at Target though, because I was
Speaker 2: trying to declutter my house, I was like not allowing
Speaker 2: myself to buy anything except for this one lamp that
Speaker 2: is going to look so cute in my living room.
Speaker 2: But then also my ADHD brain, which is why I
Speaker 2: am the way I am about the knobs and the polls,
Speaker 2: Like I don't want it's overwhelming to make a decision
Speaker 2: on which knobs, but I'm under pressure. I'll just make
Speaker 2: a decision about the knobs, which I was able to do,
Speaker 2: which is why I feel accomplished well with the lamp.
Speaker 2: I wanted to feel accomplished as well with that. So
Speaker 2: I get home and I bust open the box and
Speaker 2: it's a complicated situation. It's not there's three parts, and
Speaker 2: it's like one of those overhangs, like it's going to
Speaker 2: stretch over the couch and hang there with like three
Speaker 2: little and there is like shades. So I start putting
Speaker 2: it together, just assembling it willing only I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: this stan's okay, mm hm, just this way. I put
Speaker 2: it in the position where it's going to be behind
Speaker 2: the couch, and I start building it from the bottom up,
Speaker 2: and then I sort of get to the top and
Speaker 2: I'm stuck, and I think, okay, well that's fine, I'll
Speaker 2: go look at the instructions. Now that I'm to this point,
Speaker 2: so I look at the instructions and at the top
Speaker 2: it says in all letters, this is a two person assembly.
Speaker 2: Please do it on the floor, like a carpeted area
Speaker 2: on the floor near where you want it. I had
Speaker 2: it exactly where I wanted, standing straight up.
Speaker 3: But this is like on the hard way.
Speaker 2: They want you to lay it down on the carpet
Speaker 2: assemble it from the top down. So I had already
Speaker 2: done it all wrong and backwards, so all my hard
Speaker 2: work is undone, and then I'm over it at that point,
Speaker 2: so the lamp is just like that, not finished out
Speaker 2: there by the couch, and now I'm not selling my house,
Speaker 2: so I don't have the motivation to finish it, and
Speaker 2: I lost all my energy to do it. So I'm
Speaker 2: an idiot and didn't look at the instructions, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: why am I this way? So then I got hyper
Speaker 2: fixated on the position of my couch and for the
Speaker 2: next hour I kept inching it like you know, a
Speaker 2: quarter of an inch, half an inch, an inch to
Speaker 2: the left of the right front back until I got
Speaker 2: it in the right position, which if I dedicated that
Speaker 2: hour to breading the instructions and doing the lamp. The
Speaker 2: lamp would be done, but something about hyperfixating on the
Speaker 2: couch like felt better to me.
Speaker 3: Well, also, you want to the feeling of getting it done,
Speaker 3: like I think I got addicted to Facebook marketplace because
Speaker 3: like the feeling of making a sale. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 3: you know, yes, and so like the feeling of getting
Speaker 3: the couch where you want it, like that can happen
Speaker 3: faster than you having to redo the lamp, Like I
Speaker 3: want another easy task, but I know to.
Speaker 2: Read the instructions. I know this, but instructions are boring
Speaker 2: to me, and I'd rather do trial and error, which
Speaker 2: is what I'm in the middle of. And another reasons
Speaker 2: are overwhelming.
Speaker 3: Rather, you create chaos in your life by not reading
Speaker 3: the instructions of putting together your lamp than you moving.
Speaker 3: So if you need a little chaos, just go buy
Speaker 3: something that needs to be assembled and do it without
Speaker 3: the instructions.
Speaker 2: And then give up on it halfway and then it
Speaker 2: just leave it there, yeah, until Shannon helps me or something.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Shannon, she found the symbolism.
Speaker 3: Of a dead bunny. Oh am, I gonna like it.
Speaker 2: A dead rabbit can signify a loss, a need to
Speaker 2: let go of something, or transition in life like a relationship,
Speaker 2: a phase of life, or even a particular mindset. So
Speaker 2: I needed to let go of that house. Well, you
Speaker 2: needed to let go of some maybe that house. But
Speaker 2: also I felt like, in your house buying.
Speaker 3: Process, you can tell me your feedback.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have feedback here. I started to think. Halfway
Speaker 2: through my thought, I was like, I don't want this
Speaker 2: to come out rude. Yeah, because like I don't know
Speaker 2: you're I'm not trying to tell you.
Speaker 3: What to do.
Speaker 5: But you did have a little bit of a lack mindset.
Speaker 5: You did have a little bit of a lack mindset, yeah,
Speaker 5: And I wanted you to think with more abundance.
Speaker 2: So I just kept texting you. You're a money magnet,
Speaker 2: You're a house magnet. You make money, Circulating money brings
Speaker 2: you joy, which obviously these are just playful things. It's
Speaker 2: not totally real, but in case it is real, and
Speaker 2: keep saying it.
Speaker 3: I did have a black mindset because I didn't want
Speaker 3: to get myself. I'm doing a lot of things right
Speaker 3: now that are costing me a lot of money. Well,
Speaker 3: that costs a lot of money. So I also know
Speaker 3: myself and.
Speaker 2: They're important things.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, But I also am somebody who
Speaker 3: like I talked about. I don't know if it was
Speaker 3: last week or the week before, but I do things
Speaker 3: without thinking, and that usually works very well for me.
Speaker 3: But I don't do big financial risks without so I
Speaker 3: had to think about this stuff. And I don't know
Speaker 3: that I have like money trauma. I think I just
Speaker 3: like having money in the bank versus like But then
Speaker 3: my financial advisor even said, he said, what's the point
Speaker 3: of having money if you're not spending it? Like, what's
Speaker 3: the point of making money in your life and working
Speaker 3: really hard and then just like letting it sit there forever?
Speaker 2: You can't go to heaven with trailer hitch.
Speaker 3: That's what they say. That's what financial advisor was saying. That.
Speaker 2: Then who's the guy from Sugarland? The guy Christian? I
Speaker 2: was gonna say Christian Bale, but that's Batman, Christian Johnson,
Speaker 2: Christian Christian from Sugarland. I think he has a song
Speaker 2: like that. He had sugar Land the band, and then
Speaker 2: he had his own Christian Bush. Yes, that's it. I
Speaker 2: think he has a song literally called.
Speaker 3: Okay came to Heaven with the trailer, Hitch.
Speaker 2: Houston's probably gonna cut that out. Houston told us. Our
Speaker 2: producer told us the other day that for the podcast,
Speaker 2: sometimes Kat and I will start singing and he's like,
Speaker 2: just say, y'all know, I've been editing some of that
Speaker 2: out because we give him. We give him full control.
Speaker 3: And you said, wait what yes, editing out our jingles
Speaker 3: that go on for far too long? How dare you? Yeah,
Speaker 3: which is probably.
Speaker 2: Why we're no longer like a feeling of.
Speaker 3: The day, because I think it was quite annoying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Houston let us know because he does have
Speaker 2: full control for that, and we trust him and we
Speaker 2: don't go back and listen, and so we had no idea.
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, just so y'all know, I've been making
Speaker 2: the executive decision to cut out some of your singing.
Speaker 2: And we're like, oh, I literally did reply, Wait.
Speaker 3: What's on YouTube's still on YouTube? Yeah, because Kat diden
Speaker 3: edited out of there.
Speaker 2: But so yeah, if you want the singing YouTube.
Speaker 3: Subscribe to her YouTube channel. If we want to hear us, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we want the musical version subscribed to for our YouTube channel, like.
Speaker 2: And subscribe, which Cryocat's in here she does our video,
Speaker 2: and she was the one that helped me move my
Speaker 2: furniture to begin with. Like I was able to move
Speaker 2: it inch by inch by myself, like just rear, but
Speaker 2: to rearrange how I rearrange because I flipped it and
Speaker 2: put the couch on the other side in the chairs.
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm just putting this together. You guys did that
Speaker 3: by yourself. Just couch is so big?
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and cat, but I would say cat mostly,
Speaker 2: or it's not, it's not.
Speaker 3: Cats, like she just watched me.
Speaker 2: Well, what had happened was I have golfer's elbow, Oh,
Speaker 2: which is that's what they call pain in the inner
Speaker 2: part of your elbow. And it's not necessarily from golf.
Speaker 2: It's just like tennis elbow is the outside like a
Speaker 2: dull pain, like a throbbing pain. And like even right
Speaker 2: now when I press it, it's tender. Someone said it's
Speaker 2: brought on by perimenopause. This is when I was painting
Speaker 2: the laundry.
Speaker 3: Everything I feel like perrimonte. Pause. Now what if it's
Speaker 3: just like you that motion hurt your arm for it?
Speaker 2: I mean it could be, but also yes, I do
Speaker 2: agree with you that everything feels like perimenopause or ADHD.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in my life. So maybe this was just like
Speaker 3: because you were working.
Speaker 2: Well, you wait till you're forty four and then hit
Speaker 2: me out when you when you're mid forties, and it.
Speaker 3: I can still paint.
Speaker 2: Like for example, I was with my boyfriend on I
Speaker 2: guess this was this last weekend. So it was on
Speaker 2: a Saturday. Had it been a great day, great Saturday,
Speaker 2: you know the kind of Saturday we'd all held for
Speaker 2: and we had plans to just like go hang out.
Speaker 2: We were going to maybe go to the driving range,
Speaker 2: hit some golf balls, and then go grab a bite
Speaker 2: to eat, real low key way to wind down.
Speaker 3: Did you even with your golfer A yeah, wow, Well.
Speaker 2: I hadn't it. I we didn't, so you didn't know.
Speaker 2: We didn't go telling say you could hit golf balls,
Speaker 2: but you can't move the couch. Now, I haven't hit
Speaker 2: a golf ball, because I'll tell you what happened. Okay,
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, out of nowhere, like thirty minutes
Speaker 2: before we're about to go, I start to just get
Speaker 2: really uncomfortable. Everything is uncomfortable, and I am physically just fit.
Speaker 2: I don't know, can't explain it. I'm annoyed, I'm uncomfortable,
Speaker 2: and I'm aware. I'm like, what is happening. This does
Speaker 2: not feel right and we were just having a good day.
Speaker 2: I have nothing to be annoyed at. Then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I get sad, and then I really start
Speaker 2: to worry because I have nothing to be sad about.
Speaker 2: I even look at him and I just said, I'm
Speaker 2: uncomfortable and I feel sad and this is freaking me
Speaker 2: out because We've had a great day and life is good.
Speaker 2: I have nothing to be sad about. And then he's like, okay,
Speaker 2: so he starts kind of rubbing my shoulder like he's like,
Speaker 2: just take a few deep breaths, and I'm like and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, tears just start flooding down
Speaker 2: my face, like I can't stop them, and I'm just
Speaker 2: sitting there and I was like, I don't even know
Speaker 2: what's happening. I'm not sad right now, Like I don't
Speaker 2: feel sad, but I have to cry and I'm crying
Speaker 2: and I can't explain it. That's very menopausal.
Speaker 3: You can't tell me otherwise.
Speaker 2: So then he's like, well, maybe we need to just
Speaker 2: like what would feel good for you right now. And
Speaker 2: so I sat there, I cried as much as I could,
Speaker 2: and then you know, crying released his chemicals that helped
Speaker 2: you feel better. So I felt a little better, and
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe we should just go for a walk.
Speaker 2: So when we were at his house, so we just
Speaker 2: walked outside, went for a walk, and then his son
Speaker 2: was home and we were gonna end up if we
Speaker 2: hit golf balls. We were just going to eat by ourselves.
Speaker 2: And then his son was like going to figure something out,
Speaker 2: so we were like, let's just go, Let's take him,
Speaker 2: take him out to eat. He'd probably love that. And
Speaker 2: so we ended up doing a little mini family dinner
Speaker 2: with one of our five kids. And it was a
Speaker 2: totally different night than what we had planned, like our
Speaker 2: cute little date night got hijacked by my hormones. But
Speaker 2: it ended up being better was what I needed. But
Speaker 2: I have no idea why. I just started crying, and
Speaker 2: I was thinking, he's never experienced whatever that was, Like
Speaker 2: he's experienced me so nap a little bit at times.
Speaker 2: Not whatever that was was really weird, and he handled
Speaker 2: it like a champ. I must say, you've cried in
Speaker 2: front of him, yes, but there was a legit reason.
Speaker 2: If I've cried in front of him, it's been like,
Speaker 2: you know, going on like yeah, yeah, are kids ever
Speaker 2: going to get along? Or I'm going to meet your
Speaker 2: wife that passed away and spend the weekend with her family,
Speaker 2: and I'm overwhelmed by that, Like those are when I like,
Speaker 2: that's valid tears. This was unexplainable.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's different than like I was painting all day
Speaker 3: and then I got this injury, but it couldn't be
Speaker 3: from the painting. In that motion, it's probably from Perry,
Speaker 3: but that's different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I was saying like that's explainable, but also
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm.
Speaker 3: Maybe I could also be wrong. I'm not I know
Speaker 3: nothing about Perrymuntahause.
Speaker 2: Well, there's just fun things like that to look forward to,
Speaker 2: Like when do you and Patrick You're forty four and
Speaker 2: you and Patrick are going to be having the great
Speaker 2: day and you're about to go hit some golf balls
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you're like.
Speaker 3: Well, I had my week two what was it two
Speaker 3: weeks ago when I just was like crying, But you
Speaker 3: know why that's happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hormones too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was weird. I felt sad though this was
Speaker 3: it was so weird because I was like, I'm not
Speaker 3: sad right now, golf balls. I don't need any a
Speaker 3: kid who's like overtired, who's like I want to go by. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think if it was more was it like whiney.
Speaker 2: I was just more like purplay.
Speaker 3: Like I was like, you want to go do something,
Speaker 3: but then like you're feeling this way at the same time.
Speaker 3: That don't make sense.
Speaker 2: We're speaking a cry. Okay, we were talking about the
Speaker 2: golferslf on moving the furniture or whatever. But I was
Speaker 2: on the phone with her before I did that. She
Speaker 2: was like, what are you doing? And I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I think, Alex, I'm gonna go hit golf balls or whatever.
Speaker 2: And she was like do you like doing that? Like
Speaker 2: she goes, is this something you want to do? And
Speaker 2: I was like yeah, I went weird. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: if you're just like you're with the right person, great
Speaker 2: interest change.
Speaker 3: So I had a roommate. She's still one of my
Speaker 3: best friends, Kira. You've met her. She lived with me
Speaker 3: for like a year and she was dating her now
Speaker 3: husband and he's a big golf. For This was pre
Speaker 3: Patrick too, so I never had golfed in my life,
Speaker 3: and she would always like get dressed and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to the golf course with Jay whatever.
Speaker 3: And I remember multiple times being like that sucks. Like
Speaker 3: I remember being like, oh, you've just found your day
Speaker 3: at the golf course, and she's like, it's actually kind
Speaker 3: of fun. And then I met Patrick and I was like, Kyra,
Speaker 3: low key, I love golf. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 3: to do eighteen holes. You went and bought clubs. Okay,
Speaker 3: first of all, I did not buy clubs. Patrick bought
Speaker 3: me clubs, but that was a gift for him. It
Speaker 3: wasn't a gift for me. He wanted me to have
Speaker 3: my own clubs. You would like them, but I didn't
Speaker 3: like them. But they're purple, and I like going to
Speaker 3: do like nine holes. I really would love if they
Speaker 3: did like six holes. That would be sweet. This is
Speaker 3: where I lose interest. But when I gave a speech
Speaker 3: at Kira's wedding and one of the things I like
Speaker 3: had a list of things that had like learned from
Speaker 3: her and Jay, and one of them was about golf.
Speaker 3: And I said, I said, what you just said, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter as much what you're doing but the person
Speaker 3: that you're doing it with, because I now love golfing
Speaker 3: with Patrick. And it's not that I now love the
Speaker 3: game of golf, it's when you're doing something with somebody else,
Speaker 3: and I also get to see the joy Patrick has.
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh, I can kind of enjoy this,
Speaker 3: but I think I more so just like being with him.
Speaker 2: You know, it's exactly what it is. And you get
Speaker 2: to wear a cute outfit. Yes, And I was about
Speaker 2: to say, speaking of the outfits, I found some cute
Speaker 2: ones on Amazon. I'll have to send you the link.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're gonna say, Facebook Marketplace.
Speaker 2: I didn't know to look for clothes on there, but
Speaker 2: maybe I'll check it out because I look for other
Speaker 2: things on Facebook Marketplace, like I sell and I shop there, like,
Speaker 2: yeah all the time, like trying to look for things.
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of luck, but I have sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like there's a few things that I've missed. Oh like
Speaker 2: my dining room table and my chairs.
Speaker 3: That was clutch. That was a really goodbye, really good
Speaker 3: ye CEB two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're pretty much brand new. Speaking of cry,
Speaker 2: she went and carried that pick Oh.
Speaker 3: Really the truck too. Yeah, she picks up a mattress
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think she's my strong friend, strong friend. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it was forbidden because she's friends been too.
Speaker 2: So we were moving stuff.
Speaker 3: Hey I'm moving soon. You got cryokat.
Speaker 2: So you were on vacation, yes, which was really exciting,
Speaker 2: But I was on vacation.
Speaker 3: I was on real vacation.
Speaker 2: And you said you read a book there that you
Speaker 2: want to recommend because you have a book and I
Speaker 2: have a show.
Speaker 3: So I don't know about you, but I really get
Speaker 3: my like reading bug when I'm on vacation, and then
Speaker 3: I want to read every book after that and I can't.
Speaker 3: I've learned that this book has a sequel, Perfect Marriage.
Speaker 3: It was so good and well, I don't want to
Speaker 3: say anything. I don't want to say anything, but you give.
Speaker 2: It like five I'm not marriages out of five.
Speaker 3: I would give it a four point five out of five.
Speaker 3: That's good. And there's a sequel, so like, that's exciting.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be over yet. I read it
Speaker 3: so fast. I read it and like because the first
Speaker 3: maybe three or four days of vacation, I didn't read
Speaker 3: it all because I was playing you know, I.
Speaker 2: Go with your nieces and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so my nieces and nephews. It was really cute
Speaker 3: to watch them on the beach and like jump in
Speaker 3: the water with them. But then once people got their
Speaker 3: like playing jitters out, then I read three days finished
Speaker 3: it and I gasped at the end. I was sitting
Speaker 3: next to Patrick and I go ah, and he was like, well,
Speaker 3: now you have to tell me what happened.
Speaker 2: Well, that's how I feel about We Were Liars, because
Speaker 2: you're watching that right now, and when that ending happened.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out because I'm on I'm
Speaker 3: in the middle of the seventh episode and there's eight episodes,
Speaker 3: and I know something crazy happens, so I know it's
Speaker 3: not going to be what I think it is.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything because I don't want to run
Speaker 2: the rest of spoiling anything at all other than I
Speaker 2: also gassed. So You've Got the Perfect Marriage is a
Speaker 2: book that'll make you gasp, We Were Liars, which is
Speaker 2: on Amazon.
Speaker 3: Can I your gasp?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, I can't even guess.
Speaker 2: Because then other people.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to write it down after this and
Speaker 3: once we've had enough time, Oh.
Speaker 2: You could say it to me off Mike. I just
Speaker 2: don't want to ruin it everybody else.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to write it down so then
Speaker 3: I can read it on Mike and be like, see
Speaker 3: I guessed it right.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, We Were Liars is something you're watching. I've
Speaker 2: already finished, but that's not what I was going to recommend.
Speaker 2: I thought I was bringing something new to the table
Speaker 2: because this is also on Amazon.
Speaker 3: Is.
Speaker 2: When I finished We Were Liars, it rolled into like
Speaker 2: a different series, which is Shiny Happy People about the
Speaker 2: Dugger Family, a documentary. Yeah, and I mind blown, like
Speaker 2: things that I learned and saw. It was like unbelievable
Speaker 2: stuff that I've forgotten about their family. And it's just
Speaker 2: crazy that that the dad thought like I'm gonna put
Speaker 2: my family on TV and like this sort of stuff
Speaker 2: is going to be happening, and this is how I'm
Speaker 2: going to handle it. It's just sort of like that
Speaker 2: I'm the head of the house. Probably mentality of.
Speaker 3: Like, well, what I'm not going to occasion it's like
Speaker 3: a no, it's that weird.
Speaker 2: I can't remember. Maybe Shannon can look at the exact
Speaker 2: because I don't want to get that.
Speaker 3: It's very obedient.
Speaker 2: It's like a fundamentalist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So you were telling me that and I
Speaker 3: was like, I think i've I watched it when it
Speaker 3: came out.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not new. Come to find out. You were like,
Speaker 2: I feel like this's been out for a while. So
Speaker 2: I just googled it and it came out in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, so it's been out a couple of years.
Speaker 3: But I have I don't remember a lot of like
Speaker 3: you're saying all this and I'm like, what was shocking?
Speaker 2: And I forget, Oh, well, it's okay, so one thing,
Speaker 2: and this isn't spoiling anything. But the adult daughter, she
Speaker 2: is prominently in it, and then one of his nieces
Speaker 2: is talking about it. But the adult daughter and her cousin,
Speaker 2: I mean, they were kids when the show started, but
Speaker 2: as they matured and got older and they even got married,
Speaker 2: and then they were used on the show. They never
Speaker 2: got paid because he was the one that TLC had
Speaker 2: in the contract. They paid the dad and then I
Speaker 2: guess he could disperse. And there was a time where
Speaker 2: she was having a birthing episode where she was pregnant,
Speaker 2: specially giving birth and she was like I'm not I
Speaker 2: don't want cameras in there. Or her dad like the
Speaker 2: day before her wedding or something, he just casually like
Speaker 2: had the contract down on the table, was like, hey, babe,
Speaker 2: I need you to sign this, and she kind of
Speaker 2: ran by. And obviously she's a lot going on. She's
Speaker 2: getting married the next day, so she didn't pay attention
Speaker 2: to every detail and she signed it. Well, it was like,
Speaker 2: I'm making this up, but like say, it was a
Speaker 2: five year deal, well after her marriage, when she's pregnant
Speaker 2: with her first child, that's within that five year window.
Speaker 2: And then she's like, oh, well, we don't want cameras
Speaker 2: in but part of the contract was well you don't
Speaker 2: have a choice, and.
Speaker 3: She wasn't getting paid.
Speaker 2: And then she was like, well TLC, can y'all give
Speaker 2: up us money for this because and they're like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: our deal is with your dad and we're paying him handsomely.
Speaker 2: So then they went to the dad and said we
Speaker 2: would like payment, and he said I can pay you
Speaker 2: ten dollars an hour. Oh isn't that into Okay?
Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't finish it because I don't remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just crazy stuff like that that feels very I llegal,
Speaker 3: especially with the kids. I think now I don't know.
Speaker 2: What the laws are, but they were adult that's why.
Speaker 3: Right. But in California there there's some law that's changed
Speaker 3: about like influencers and stuff where if you're using your
Speaker 3: kids as part of whatever, you have to pay them.
Speaker 3: So that's why a lot of people are moving out
Speaker 3: of California. I feel like, I don't know that they
Speaker 3: can like so they don't have to do because they
Speaker 3: lose money. There's some weird law that like you are
Speaker 3: losing people.
Speaker 2: That like you are losing money protect children, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I mean that's weird.
Speaker 3: I'm not condoning it. I'm just saying I think there's
Speaker 3: something like that going on.
Speaker 2: It's okay, let's see Dugger religion independent Fundamentalist Baptists affiliated
Speaker 2: with the Institute and basically Principles. That's well IBLP, Yes, IBLP,
Speaker 2: a conservative Chritian organization. And then there's that one guy.
Speaker 2: I feel like the church I grew up too. They
Speaker 2: would listen to stuff by him, but there was a
Speaker 2: lot of his seminars that he would do and they
Speaker 2: were very much in alignment with his stuff. And that
Speaker 2: guy was just like spreading his.
Speaker 3: But it's like a kind of cult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels a little a little weird.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, maybe I'll watch this again, even though it's
Speaker 3: an old wreck.
Speaker 2: Apparently there's a season two of something that season one.
Speaker 3: But is it about a different family.
Speaker 2: Potentially it could be about something completely different.
Speaker 3: Well that makes me sad, though, because I watched was
Speaker 3: it nineteen Kids in Counting? Yeah, where they kept changing
Speaker 3: that or actually I watched that and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this family seems so nice.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's a mess. I remember the brother he
Speaker 2: like did inappropriate things with the sisters. And then the
Speaker 2: one of the sisters that it had happened to, she's
Speaker 2: the one that is now part of the documentary, and
Speaker 2: was saying, oh, yeah, I never got paid like she's
Speaker 2: she even oh she did. I would maybe find that interesting.
Speaker 2: She seems like a really sweet person, and I'm glad
Speaker 2: that her and her husband are kind of out of that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, nothing about that seemed healthy. And they
Speaker 2: interviewed other people that were watching the show that were
Speaker 2: part of that religion and they or had grown up
Speaker 2: in that religion, or at least were married to men
Speaker 2: like that in the religion, and they felt very suppressed,
Speaker 2: and they were like, no way TLC is putting this
Speaker 2: on there because they know what life is like really
Speaker 2: when the cameras aren't rolling, because they know how these
Speaker 2: homes work, and so they're having to watch it and
Speaker 2: being like, oh my gosh, like this is my life.
Speaker 2: But in america's like eating this up and these people
Speaker 2: are gaining fame. But when it's just not a healthy situation.
Speaker 3: That's a lesson though that. I mean, it's hard because
Speaker 3: if the content's interesting, we want to watch it. But
Speaker 3: it's that John and Kate plus eight like that was
Speaker 3: nothing what it seemed. Did you not watch that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I loved that show, but like I think, what.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just interesting. You're like I loved
Speaker 2: nineteen Kids Accounting and John in Place, John and Kate,
Speaker 2: let's say.
Speaker 3: And I love No Mom. I loved Breaking Amish too.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh that one was cool. They I guess when you're
Speaker 3: Amish you get to have like this experience, I mean,
Speaker 3: says this show. I don't know if this is actually true,
Speaker 3: but you could have this experience where you go into
Speaker 3: the real world and then they have to make the
Speaker 3: decision do I want to come back into my amish
Speaker 3: world or do I want to live here? But if
Speaker 3: I live out in the real world, I'm cut off
Speaker 3: from everybody. So you're watching these teenagers or like young
Speaker 3: adults go and experience things for the first time, like
Speaker 3: going to a movie theater or drinking or just like
Speaker 3: going to a mall. Stuff like that. Like with Freedom,
Speaker 3: I bet a lot of it was not true now
Speaker 3: that I'm talking about it.
Speaker 2: Or maybe it was much like fuck, you'll believe anything.
Speaker 3: Actually, Okay, Now I watched this in like middle school. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because it's.
Speaker 2: Like twelve fast forward to the you now, like you
Speaker 2: are very skeptical.
Speaker 3: Which is why I'm a skeptic, because breaking.
Speaker 2: Homage, which is why you wanted to do our Mel
Speaker 2: Robin's Deep Dive.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this is a good transition into the really cool
Speaker 2: voicemail that we got. So this is a good transition
Speaker 2: into the really cool voicemail that we got from a
Speaker 2: fellow licensed therapist. She's a listener from Florida, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna play her voicemail. No, and this is about the
Speaker 2: Mel Robin's Deep Dive episode that we did about the
Speaker 2: Leton theory.
Speaker 1: I usually never called because I feel leaving voicemails, but
Speaker 1: I think the greeting really put me at ease.
Speaker 4: For one, but I'm listening to the Mill Robin seep
Speaker 4: Dive and I'm not even all the way done, but
Speaker 4: I felt so inclined that I had to pause it and.
Speaker 1: Came because as a therapist, I, like some therapists in Florida,
Speaker 1: I'm finding myself saying yes, oh my gosh, yes, I'm
Speaker 1: putting my finger on exactly why I've been struggling with
Speaker 1: the self help world, because at first I thought maybe
Speaker 1: I was jealous that people are so successful in this
Speaker 1: realm and maybe I'm not at that level, but I
Speaker 1: really have a hard time finding a way to monetize
Speaker 1: the help and the fact that therapy really isn't all
Speaker 1: that sexy and it's a really slow process to create
Speaker 1: lasting change.
Speaker 4: So I just thank you for the conversation. I appreciate
Speaker 4: it great things.
Speaker 2: So that was nice and from someone that's in the
Speaker 2: space that you're in that sometimes can be challenging.
Speaker 3: And I like that she said. A part of her
Speaker 3: was like, maybe I'm just jealous because this person's successful,
Speaker 3: because I've had to ask myself that a lot of like, well,
Speaker 3: is this just like a jealous not able to be
Speaker 3: like happy for other people, or is this skeptical because
Speaker 3: there feels like there's some manipulation or there's some false advertising.
Speaker 3: So I feel that too sometimes, Well.
Speaker 2: You did a great job with the Deep Dive, I
Speaker 2: gotta say. I went back and watched it on YouTube,
Speaker 2: and I was a little nervous, especially because I was
Speaker 2: the Mel Robbins fan, and I think I've said five
Speaker 2: hundred times I didn't want to feel like a bash
Speaker 2: session because also we don't want to be mean grel
Speaker 2: known for just like not having space for everybody or
Speaker 2: putting people down. And also we can be a space
Speaker 2: where research can be done and information can be shared.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people didn't know about the plagiarism controversy,
Speaker 2: and I just assumed because that's part of our algorithms,
Speaker 2: and I fed that a lot that most people knew.
Speaker 2: We got so many notes from people that had no idea,
Speaker 2: and then a lot of the similar vibe to the
Speaker 2: caller the voicemail of like I kind of just always
Speaker 2: knew something was a little off, but I can quite
Speaker 2: put my finger on it, so thank you for now
Speaker 2: giving an explanation to like what was not sitting well
Speaker 2: with me. I'll read an email that we got, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, if you want to call and leave
Speaker 2: a voicemail. And I love that she said at the beginning.
Speaker 2: I usually never call because I feel weirdly being voicemails.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people feel that way, which
Speaker 2: I thought a lot of people would like to call. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's just we get more emails than voicemails. But
Speaker 2: if you feel inclined, eight seven seven two o seven
Speaker 2: two oh seven seven is the number, and then you
Speaker 2: can email Hey, they're at Feeling Things podcast dot com,
Speaker 2: like Beth did. Here's what Beth wrote in Hey Kat
Speaker 2: and Amy. I'm a long time listener of Four Things,
Speaker 2: like from the very first episode, as in I still
Speaker 2: make my bed to this day because of Amy, and
Speaker 2: it changed my life for good. I never knew how
Speaker 2: to journal, and then I bought the Four Things Journal
Speaker 2: because it felt accessible, and it slowly change my life,
Speaker 2: as in I now journal a full page almost every day.
Speaker 2: The transformation from Kat joining the show as a guest,
Speaker 2: to her own podcasts and the Fifth Thing to Feeling
Speaker 2: Things has been so cool to watch and cheer on.
Speaker 2: It feels like watching two good friends find the very
Speaker 2: best versions of themselves.
Speaker 3: I had actually stopped.
Speaker 2: Listening to four things and was only doing the fifth
Speaker 2: thing due to time constraints, and the decision to become
Speaker 2: feeling things has been such a gift to me, So
Speaker 2: thank you, Amy. It's been such a joy and encouragement
Speaker 2: of my own journey to watch you learn, grow and
Speaker 2: change your mind. And I'm gonna insert myself here and
Speaker 2: this is not the email any talking, but and that's
Speaker 2: where I feel about Mel, because I did talk about
Speaker 2: her so much, and that that was another thing, like
Speaker 2: an Instagram dms that I was seeing from people, was
Speaker 2: like I only started following Mel because of you, or
Speaker 2: I learned about Mel from you, And then I felt like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 2: you know it just it's a weird place to be
Speaker 2: in when you've hyped someone up and then again that
Speaker 2: veil is lifted and then you feel like, now you're
Speaker 2: bringing this other information. But then when I got that
Speaker 2: line from Beth, that was very encouraging to me because
Speaker 2: I am allowed to learn, grow and change my mind
Speaker 2: and she put change in all caps. So Beth, thank you.
Speaker 2: So much for that specific line, and then she went
Speaker 2: on to say some nice things about me blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and then she went on to which thank you Beth
Speaker 2: for that words of affirmation or my love language, but
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read them for everybody else. And
Speaker 2: then she said the Mel Robins episode, thank you for
Speaker 2: the Deep Dive. I was introduced to her through you
Speaker 2: and initially liked what she.
Speaker 3: Had to say.
Speaker 2: However, recently with the let them stuff, it just didn't
Speaker 2: sit right with me. I didn't even know about the
Speaker 2: plagiarism part. It went against everything I've been doing in
Speaker 2: my healing and therapy journey. And while it wouldn't have
Speaker 2: bothered me if you still followed or quoted her firm
Speaker 2: believer that we all have different journeys, it did make
Speaker 2: me feel connected and seen that you also felt disenfranchised
Speaker 2: as well. So I truly appreciate y'all's Deep Dive episode.
Speaker 2: It was so refreshingly transparent. Thanks for everything you both
Speaker 2: have done for me in ways you'll never know. Hope
Speaker 2: you have the day you need to have, Beth Duncan,
Speaker 2: so thank you Beth for that, and thank you Kat
Speaker 2: for the thoughtful deep dive because that was all you,
Speaker 2: and you executed it beautifully, exceeded any expectations I had,
Speaker 2: and I think I had a lot of expectations on
Speaker 2: how I wanted it to play out, and you killed
Speaker 2: it well.
Speaker 3: Thanks. And I was thinking as you were reading that
Speaker 3: you changing your mind in this area is brave too.
Speaker 3: It's I think there's courage in that to say like, oh,
Speaker 3: not that you were wrong, because it's that you learned
Speaker 3: more information, but I think you putting yourself in that position,
Speaker 3: you could have just been like, no, I love mel Well.
Speaker 2: I still found myself struggling with like saying that I'm
Speaker 2: not like exactly. I think there are things I still like.
Speaker 2: And again I think I learned more from guests that
Speaker 2: she has on now than her. But I did find myself,
Speaker 2: even though I was I'm increasingly more just about her,
Speaker 2: I still wanted to be like, I mean, it's not
Speaker 2: that I'm not a fan, it's just like, this is information,
Speaker 2: and do with it what you will, like am I probably?
Speaker 2: Am I going to be like? I started to read
Speaker 2: her last book and I couldn't finish it. If she
Speaker 2: puts out another book, now, it's like the next phase
Speaker 2: of my relationship with hers. I'm probably not even gonna
Speaker 2: own that book or ask for it as a gift
Speaker 2: because I told my sister, oh yeah, I would love it,
Speaker 2: so she got it for me. I did see someone
Speaker 2: left us a comment on Instagram. They're like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 2: what do I do about my let them tattoo that
Speaker 2: I got? And I was like, well, people were.
Speaker 3: Getting those tattoos. There was a whole when I was
Speaker 3: doing my research. Apparently there was a movement when that
Speaker 3: poem came out that people were getting those tattoos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because so Cassie Phillips had gotten tattoos, Bill wet them.
Speaker 3: Tattoo can And I hope that this was clear. Let
Speaker 3: them works in a certain context. It just isn't as
Speaker 3: overarching life changing and works in every area of your
Speaker 3: life like some of the stuff that has been coming
Speaker 3: out lately about it. It has limitations, but it's just
Speaker 3: like we talked about any of the other little things
Speaker 3: we have, like the weight to worry and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: those still can be meaningful to you.
Speaker 2: So I replied to that person and I said just that,
Speaker 2: like it wasn't like take the information we shared, but
Speaker 2: your tattoo can still be special and be very fitting
Speaker 2: in certain cases. But it made me think about our tattoos,
Speaker 2: because we want to get some of ours lasered off.
Speaker 2: Like I've got joy and a spat and they're bleeding
Speaker 2: so bad. Like I want to get on lasered off,
Speaker 2: but I have a summer tan, or you can't have
Speaker 2: sun on your skin.
Speaker 3: I don't think, oh when you get them, well, I
Speaker 3: just don't want to pay for it right now, cause
Speaker 3: am I having other things? I'm having one? Do you
Speaker 3: say I have a limited you'ring lack? You have a
Speaker 3: lack mindset. Maybe if I just start getting my tattoos
Speaker 3: lasered off, I'll just be a money magnet and we'll
Speaker 3: just come to me.
Speaker 2: You already are like sell a fee things on Facebook
Speaker 2: for your tattoo removal.
Speaker 3: Please buy this patio furniture. I'd like to get my
Speaker 3: dad tooo removed.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's girl. Math sometimes is like, Okay, what
Speaker 2: am I not using right now? What can I offload?
Speaker 2: And then boom, well what do I.
Speaker 3: Want more than? What do I want more? This couch
Speaker 3: or my arm back?
Speaker 2: Well, it depends, is it like the main couch you
Speaker 2: sit on or is it when your mom gave you.
Speaker 2: That's sitting in the corner.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I might I could sit on the ground.
Speaker 2: Like I have this rocker chair under my tree in
Speaker 2: my backyard.
Speaker 3: It's red.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen it. It's like a glider.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so do you sell it for you? Well,
Speaker 3: I'll take you percent. Listen, Oh is it from your mom?
Speaker 2: It was my mom's.
Speaker 3: Oh, then you can't sell that.
Speaker 2: But well, I was thinking about stuff your mom gave
Speaker 2: you and how you're selling.
Speaker 3: It, and oh, I know, wayfair.
Speaker 2: I know this is totally different. I'm just telling you
Speaker 2: the thought I had. You know how one thought leads
Speaker 2: to another thought.
Speaker 3: You know that. Yeah, I've heard that cyber too.
Speaker 2: Okay, So when you're talking about that, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: thinking about my patio furniture from my mom, which I
Speaker 2: don't love the color red, but my mom loved red.
Speaker 2: So I've thought for a long long time I need
Speaker 2: to paint it. So I really need some sort of
Speaker 2: dopamine hit or motivation to get that painted. But also
Speaker 2: I was seeing the other day, do I have to
Speaker 2: hold onto this like I have some of her jewelry?
Speaker 2: That means a lot to me that I wear all
Speaker 2: the time. I don't even know that I really like
Speaker 2: the glider. I just keep holding on to the dang glider.
Speaker 2: It's sitting out underneath the tree facing a fence, like
Speaker 2: if you were to sit in it. There's nothing enjoyful
Speaker 2: like what you're gliding. And you're like, look at my
Speaker 2: neighbor's fence and is it dirty?
Speaker 1: Look?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's dirty. The paint is peeling.
Speaker 3: Okay. But but but you could repurpose that into a
Speaker 3: beautiful piece of furniture. There are people that do that.
Speaker 3: I watch them on TikTok all the time. They take
Speaker 3: like a dresser they found on the side of the
Speaker 3: road and they turn it into like this beautiful work
Speaker 3: of art. So I think that could be a metaphor
Speaker 3: of something refresh in your life. I couldn't be me,
Speaker 3: because I would just spray paint it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I was gonna do with spray paint
Speaker 2: it like dark brown or not black.
Speaker 3: I think we can find you somebody who can like Okay, Well,
Speaker 3: we then we have to sell some things to be
Speaker 3: able to pay for the refurbished chair.
Speaker 2: It's okay, I would invest in it if it like
Speaker 2: makes my mom's peace special, Like, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: Circulating money brings me joy. Anytime you divide anything, just
Speaker 2: tell yourself that, because when you're paying money to somebody else,
Speaker 2: it's like you're giving.
Speaker 3: Your helping them exactly, helping them live the life that they.
Speaker 2: Were, and then that brings you joy. So therefore it's
Speaker 2: a it's the whole system.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's find somebody and if you're listening and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I do that and you'll live in
Speaker 3: the area, maybe they can come fix your chair. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: don't it. This was Wayfair furniture, not like a family
Speaker 3: heirloom ordered it.
Speaker 2: I mean I have pieces. This light in here that
Speaker 2: I love is from Wayfair.
Speaker 3: It's baller, I know. I think I might buy it.
Speaker 2: I sent you the Wayfair. I think, yes, it's so cute.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know the brand of it. My
Speaker 2: moms could easily be from Wayfair. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: It's not some like precious.
Speaker 3: She isn't used to glide in it, and you would
Speaker 3: watch her glide on.
Speaker 2: Her back packet. That means I should sit in it.
Speaker 3: My mom never sat in this. I don't think my
Speaker 3: mom ever sat in this French shore. I don't have
Speaker 3: like a memory, but there are things that I have.
Speaker 3: As we're removing stuff, I kept being like, oh, I
Speaker 3: have a box of rolled coins in a shoe box,
Speaker 3: duct taped. It's so heavy. There's like two hundred dollars
Speaker 3: of rolled coins in this box. I will never cash
Speaker 3: it in because I found it in the closet of
Speaker 3: my grandfather's house when we were cleaning their house out
Speaker 3: after my grandma died. He had passed away before her,
Speaker 3: and we have memories of rolling coins with our grandfather
Speaker 3: when we were little, and so I took all of
Speaker 3: the rolled coins and I divide them out between four
Speaker 3: because I have three siblings, and which that was the
Speaker 3: hill of money in his closet, because what is that
Speaker 3: six hundred dollars And I will never we are moving it.
Speaker 3: Patrick's like what is this? And I'm like, We're never
Speaker 3: taking that to the bank. I will have that until
Speaker 3: the day I die because it is a memory, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's to that.
Speaker 3: If I just found rolled coins in my parents' kitchen,
Speaker 3: I'd take them to the bank. I don't have a
Speaker 3: memory with that, but.
Speaker 2: Make your grandkids are for sure cashing that in.
Speaker 3: No, do not take this to the bank. This is
Speaker 3: a memory of your great great grandfather, your great grandfather.
Speaker 2: I was featuring Stashia finding that, and she'd be like.
Speaker 3: Yes, grandfather's grandfather.
Speaker 2: Feet don't fail me now, she'd catch that stuff in
Speaker 2: so fast. Okay, well.
Speaker 3: That's that.
Speaker 2: This is our episode. There's a lot of feelings in
Speaker 2: this episode. We have feelings of we were in awe,
Speaker 2: we felt accomplished, we feel sentimental, yeah, proud, feel confused
Speaker 2: by hormones and weird cries, and I feel pain in
Speaker 2: my elbow. Lots of feelings and we hope that you
Speaker 2: enjoyed the mail Robins Deep Dive and appreciate it again.
Speaker 2: I'll say one more time, Cat, you did an excellent job.
Speaker 2: We have requests for more deep dives, so we got
Speaker 2: to figure out who if y'all would like to send
Speaker 2: in your request. We've already gotten some, but you could
Speaker 2: send in people you would like them on and we
Speaker 2: can work on that.
Speaker 3: Things can be things on a cult or some kind
Speaker 3: of trend or something like that golfer's elbow. Ye deep,
Speaker 3: I know that anybody would listen to that, but maybe
Speaker 3: we could make it fun.
Speaker 2: I mean A deep dive on perimenopause would be so helpful,
Speaker 2: but I feel like we would need an expert. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, not that's beyond our scope. And speaking of
Speaker 2: our ADHD showed up a lot in this episode too,
Speaker 2: so I know that a deep dive on that would
Speaker 2: be appreciated, but from an expert. So some of our
Speaker 2: deep dives maybe from us, or we'd have to bring
Speaker 2: in experts, but we're open to anything. So yes, send
Speaker 2: in whatever topic she would like looked into with the microscope. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, we hope you have it.
Speaker 1: We have, you have, I have.
Speaker 3: We are having the day you need to have.
Speaker 5: Bye.
Speaker 1: Bye