1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Good. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: All right, break it down. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 3: If you ever have feelings that you just fonts Amy 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: and Cat gotcha covincking No, brother, ladies and folks, do you. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: Just follow an the spirit where it's on the front 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: and real stuff. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: To the chill stuff and the m but Swayne, sometimes 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: the best thing you can do it just stop you 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: feel things. This is feeling things with Amy and Kat. 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Kat. 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: And today for our feeling of the day, well, Kat 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: and I both have one, and I feel like our 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: feeling is going to be similar or even the same. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: So I just want to count to three and after 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: three we just say our feeling and we see if 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: it's the same. Okay, Okay, Am I gonna go one? 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: Two three or three? 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: Two? 19 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: One? Should we count up or down? 20 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: Does it matter? Okay? 21 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 4: Up? 22 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Okay? One two three? Gosh, I mean that's similar. 23 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: Because wait, make sure that they heard what you said. 24 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: I said accomplished and I am feeling in awe of 25 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: myself right and I know based on what we both 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: got done and accomplished in our lives recently and how 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: proud we are of ourselves. That's why I thought we 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: may have the same word, and I was going back 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: and forth between proud and accomplished and just all around 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: awesome but a tiny bit confused because it's like I've 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: asked myself a lot the last few days. Why am 32 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: I this way? Why am I this way? 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: Well, okay, back up, why do you feel you're not 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: feeling in all of yourself? That's me? Why are you 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: feeling accomplished? 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: Well? Kat and I have been living a very similar life. 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: It's like we're synced up in more ways than one, 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: and we. 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: Keep learning all these different ways. We're like, oh, it's 40 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: another thing where we're the same, and it likely is 41 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 2: just how our brains operate. Kat has been thinking about 42 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: moving and some of that has been underway, which is great. 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: But when things get you know, down to the wire 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: and stuff is starting to get real. I mean the motivation, 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: like the dopamine. 46 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 3: The pressure. It's the pressure, but it's. 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: Also exciting and I can't explain it. It's like there's 48 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: rush and things that I know you've been putting off 49 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: for a long time you finally were able to do. 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: I'm not really moving, but for a few days I 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: acted like I was because I found this house that 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: came on the market. That is me. 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 3: Were you looking on Zillo Yeah. 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: As a hobby, Yeah, it's really fun. And then this 55 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: house popped up and it spoke to me and I 56 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: was like, this is so great. Yeah, everything about it 57 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: is so perfect. And I did just move sort of recently. 58 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: Me moving now does not make sense, but I was 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: making it make sense, you know, Yeah, you just nag, 60 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: nagel that, and I'm like, it'll be fine and this 61 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: will be a good investment. And I was convincing myself. 62 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: Well. 63 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: Come to find out, during the week that I thought 64 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: I was moving, I got so much done. But now 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: I'm not moving. But the trick that I played on 66 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: my brain during that week was epic. 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: So anytime you need to get something done, you have 68 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: to be like, I'm moving next week. 69 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: But here's the thing, like, I think it has to 70 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: be kind of real. It feels now like it was 71 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: a trick on my brain because of how it ended up, 72 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: which ultimately came down to the wire because the house 73 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: got another offer from somebody else. So then now it's 74 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: like pressure's on. I need to put an offer in 75 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: if like I'm for real, for real, And suddenly everything 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: that was so perfect that I was seeing. I started 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: to see flaws in the and started to see how 78 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: this doesn't really make sense, and you know, silly things 79 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: like capital gains, like who cares if I haven't owned 80 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: my house for a year. And then it's like, yeah, 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: let's be responsible and not ridiculous. Although I do think 82 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: what I were to if this is what I convinced myself, 83 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: what I was going to lose in capital gains, i'd 84 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: make back because this is such a perfect investment. Yeah, 85 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: you told me that it may take five to ten years, 86 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: but it would be worth it. 87 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: I had to stay in that house for that long, correct, 88 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: So when you sent me because I was on vacation 89 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: and you sent me that list of things you had 90 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: to do, the punch list, Yes, And I never thought 91 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: like in my head, I was like, wow, it's so random. 92 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: Time for her to finally be putting knobs on her refrigerator. 93 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: But good for her. I never thought like, she's probably 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: trying to move because you literally moved a year ago 95 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: and your house is like perfectly you like, maybe not perfect, 96 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: but like you've updated it to make it your style. 97 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: And then I was thinking moving is the worst. Why 98 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: would you want to do that? 99 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: Moving is awful, It's totally awful, Like, I don't know 100 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 2: if I was just craving chaos. In fact, I texted 101 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: my friend Claire and she just replied back, is it 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: possible your brain is craving the dopamine hit of all 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: of this? 104 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: Lol? 105 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: And I was like, interesting, trying nice about it. It's 106 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: craving the dopamine hit or it's craving chaos, which you 107 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: know I used to see chaos in relationship. Well, now 108 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: if I don't have that, because my relationship is healthy too, 109 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: am I seeking chaos? Just like create make life more 110 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: complicated than it needs to be. But he took the 111 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: kids to look at the house and they were like, oh, 112 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: this is it was really cool great, took the boyfriend 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: to look at it. He of course picked out small 114 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: little details like things that bother like. He's like, look 115 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: at this trim work, and I'm like, trimwork, trimwork. 116 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: It's fine. 117 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: He's like, why are the outlets this way? And I 118 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: was like, I would never hopel that. 119 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: I'm like, we'll get new plate covers like that. 120 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: That's why He's like, well, but you have to look 121 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: like if this is what you're spending, this is what 122 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: you should be getting, and you want to pay attention 123 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: to these things. He's like, I'm not saying this stuff 124 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: is a is a no go or a no brainer. 125 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: But he's just way more analytical and I'm more of like, 126 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: but how about. 127 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: The vibe, Like this wallpaper is really cool? 128 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: Like what's the feeling you have right now? Because in 129 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: the backyard, I was like, feeling. 130 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: I have is the crown molding is off. It's like 131 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: cheaply done, very really very Yeah. 132 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: He's like, this is basically some two by four is 133 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: just thrown up here and painted black to look chic, 134 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: and I was like, well, it's giving, it's giving chic. 135 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 2: It's giving chic and I like it. And the backyard 136 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: was so zen. 137 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: Well, in the backyard, I was like, was this an airbnb? 138 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: It felt like I said, to you, this looks like 139 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: a resort. 140 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was quaint. It wasn't anything big or overwhelming. 141 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: In fact, there was no real yard to take care of. 142 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: Even though the yard was zen. 143 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: It was like it was a zen garden. Yeah, Like 144 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: there was some. 145 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: Plants that need to stay alive, but they had a 146 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: little sprinkler system. 147 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: Attached to that, so I was like, this is do 148 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: aball person. Ye, well, would you have missed your backyard? 149 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 5: No? 150 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: I think I would have really enjoyed that space. But 151 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: congrats to whomever put in the offer that then made 152 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: me decide I'm not willing to be in a competition 153 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: for this house because it's really not for me. However, 154 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: I'm very thankful for the week that I was gonna 155 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: maybe do it, because yes, have I needed to pick 156 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: out knobs and pulls from my kitchen drawers and cabinets 157 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: for nine to twelve months, Absolutely, And have I had 158 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: any urgency to do so, No, But then you make 159 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: me make decisions and I can order curtains. I can. 160 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously some of the things I had to 161 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: hire people to do, but it's like the thought of 162 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: spending that money was now like, it's okay, we just 163 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: need to get this done. Although I will say I 164 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: got a quote to paint my laundry room and it 165 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: was ridiculous, So Sashira and I painted the laundry room myself, 166 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: so that also felt good. 167 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: You're in process of painting the launder room. 168 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's by the time this airs it will 169 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: be being painted. Yeah, thanks for that. 170 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to keep you on it. 171 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: But you started it, I did, Yeah, and it will 172 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: be finished. Yeah, future me, it's finished. 173 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: That's so funny that Alex said that when you brought 174 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 3: him to the house, because when I brought my dad, 175 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: not Patrick, because Patrick's brain's kind of like me. He's like, 176 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: this is the best thing ever. I brought my dad 177 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: to one of the houses we were looking at. I 178 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: knew within thirty seconds. I was like, you hate this house, 179 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: don't you. He's like, I don't hate it. My mom 180 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: was like, just let him do his thing. He's like, well, 181 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: you need a new water heater and he was like, 182 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go into the crawl space. He's like do 183 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: you have a flashlight? And I'm like, you have one 184 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: on your phone and like just say that you hate 185 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: the house. And he was like, I don't hate the house. 186 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: You just need to do this. You need to do this, 187 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 3: You need to do this, you need do this. It's 188 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of work and the floor sucks 189 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: and blah blah blah blah. And I was like, Okay, 190 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: you hate the house. However, when I went to see 191 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: that house for the second time, there's a dead bunny 192 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: in the yard. 193 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: Is that a sign? 194 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: Yes? I said that to Patrick, I said, we can 195 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: get this house, so dead bunny in the backyard. What 196 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: if the. 197 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: Dead bunny is good luck? 198 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: Because would that be a sign of good luck? 199 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: Because when I first bought this house, there was a 200 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: dead blue jay a couple months after I moved here. 201 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: And my dad is a blue jay. I know this 202 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: is gonna sound psychotic, but you know how my mom 203 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: is a cardin all, my dad is a blue jay. Well, 204 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: then there was a dead blue jay right outside my 205 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: back porch, like under this beautiful tree. 206 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: Alive blue jay. 207 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: Sure you would think. But then I googled the meaning 208 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 2: behind it or what it could mean, and it was 209 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: about new beginnings. 210 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: Dead rabbit. 211 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: Me. Well, we just need to look it up. You 212 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: can make anything mean what you want it to mean. 213 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. 214 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: Don't worry. We didn't get that house, so I hope 215 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that house. 216 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought that that was the one that was. 217 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: The first house you're excited about. And also my dad 218 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: does know a lot about houses. He builds houses, so 219 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: I was like, dad hates it. Like I need to 220 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: think about this again, and then yeah, you start to 221 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: see things You're like, why isn't there any trim around anything? 222 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: Or why is this this way? Or this bathroom would 223 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 3: be a lot of work, and then you're putting together 224 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: all the money you would pay to fix the things, 225 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: and then you're like, why could just get a nicer house. 226 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: So then we found another house and my dad liked 227 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: it a lot better. But it was just funny that 228 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's perfect. My Dad's like, no, it's not. 229 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: But that's another thing that was actually very helpful in 230 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: this process of looking at houses, because I get so 231 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: excited and I'm like, yeah, let's just sign the contract now. 232 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: And then my brother was helping me look at houses, 233 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: and he was like, not everything is perfect about this house. 234 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: There are some great things about it, but it's not perfect. 235 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: And so it helped me take some of the emotion 236 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: out of it so I could make a wise decision 237 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: and not just like be excited about the idea of moving, 238 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: because I had to actually spend a whole session of 239 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: my own therapy trying to figure out am I wanting 240 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: to do this because the dopamine hit and I want 241 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 3: something exciting and I want to be able to control 242 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: something because a lot of my life is out of 243 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: control and I can't plan a trip right now, or 244 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: is this the right thing for me to do right 245 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: now in my life? And it's the right thing. 246 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: So it turns out that it is the right thing. 247 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: That I think it's good that you took the time 248 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: to process that. Whenever decisions we have going on, I 249 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: think sometimes we can move too quickly with the emotion. 250 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: Thankfully I had the other people that were swooping into 251 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: buy the house because it allowed me to pause, because 252 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: otherwise I was riding those emotions and they were rad 253 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: and high. 254 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: And then you would get this house and you'd be 255 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: like shoot, and. 256 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: I was like hop on, everybody, buckle up or buying 257 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: a house, and most people were like, huh, this is weird, 258 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: this is weird, But okay. I could also appreciate those 259 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: that were being really supportive and excited too, because we 260 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: could make it make sense. But you and I both 261 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: are just thankful for the motivation and the dope mean 262 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: that we got out of our situations. Because Kat has 263 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: been selling things on Facebook marketplace left and right, and 264 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: I want you to go over your list of things 265 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: that you've been able to sell, because if people walk 266 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: away from this episode with anything, it is that I'm 267 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: in kisage right now from Facebook from a buyer from 268 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: a buyer. She's been wheeling and dealing the whole time 269 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: she's been at my house, and it's like, you can 270 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 2: be a money magnet. You likely have things all over 271 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: your house that you could sell and make an extra 272 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: Oh shoo, hundred three hundred, or in Cat's case, she's 273 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: made seven hundred dollars in the last week. What are 274 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: you oh shooting? 275 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: I was distracted and I'm being bad at Facebook Marketplace 276 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 3: because I told somebody they could come get this furniture, 277 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: but I already sold that set. 278 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: Your rating's going down. 279 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 3: Oh shoot, okay. 280 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: Well we're doing a podcast, ight now. 281 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: Let me read you Okay. I will say. If I've 282 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 3: learned anything through this move, it's that I can make 283 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 3: a buck fast by going through all my classes. And 284 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: they had four sets of patio furniture in my backyard 285 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: that I never sat in. 286 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: Your backyard isn't even big. 287 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: Where was this stuff? I have a nice size s 288 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: backyard for where I live. It was all in the 289 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: corner of my backyard, collecting dust. 290 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: I wasn't like Dissy, your backyard sucks, no God, but 291 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: I'm just clarifying for people. It sounds like you had 292 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: four different patio sets, like how does al. 293 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 3: Was piled together? It didn't look nice? Oh okay, yeah yeah, 294 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: And I actually didn't buy any of them. They're all 295 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 3: like patio furniture that my mom got new patio furniture 296 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: and kept giving me her old stuff. So I really 297 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: made a lot of money because I'm selling things that 298 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: people gave to me for free. 299 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:39,239 Speaker 2: Smaller. 300 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: But my friend told me, she said, write down everything 301 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: you sell, because when you sell something for like five dollars, 302 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: it feels like, oh, this is a waste of time. 303 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: But then when you look at it, all I've made like, 304 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: well if that if I would have told that person 305 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: the right thing, I would have made like eight hundred dollars. 306 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 3: We're in the seven hundreds. Do you want to know 307 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: what I sold? 308 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 309 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: Okay, guys, you can sell anything. I sold a opened 310 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: pack of bubbles for my wedding. 311 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: I sold it like bottles with bubblic. 312 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: Individual little We didn't use them because it rained. 313 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: Did they say like Cat and Patrick Forever? 314 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: No, they have like little hearts on the end of them. 315 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: I don't know where the why some of them were 316 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: taken because we didn't use them, but anyway, somebody bought those. 317 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: I sold a digital camera that I bought when I 318 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: was gonna start recording episodes of You Need Therapy, and 319 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: then I was like, this is too hard, so that 320 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: I sold an umbrella that I found in my storage bin. 321 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: I didn't even know I had it. I never opened it. 322 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: An umbrella like a I'm sorry, a patio brea. 323 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: I could have sold umbrella. I sold patio furniture, rain boots, 324 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: a clothing rack, disco ball planters, drink dispensers from my wedding, 325 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: a sparkle backdrop wall and easel to hold a sign, 326 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: my second option of shoes from my wedding that I 327 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: never wore, two dresses from Anthropology, two alo sports bras, 328 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: a purse, and sound panels well packing. 329 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: That clothes were on there. I mean, I guess I've 330 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: always thought poshmark for clothes and furniture and house goods 331 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: for Facebook Marketplace or you know, bicycles or yeahs even 332 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: but I didn't know dresses. So that's good information because 333 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,479 Speaker 2: then you don't have to pay the cut to Poshmark. 334 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: No, but I will say I sold them for low dollar. 335 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: I think I could have sold them for more on Poshmark, okay, 336 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: and then lost that. I just wanted them gone gone. 337 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: Because you were in You're in the mood, you're wheeling 338 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: in dealing. 339 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: Yes, And now I'm like, oh, I can get something 340 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: nice for my new house and it will feel like 341 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: it was free exactly girl the math. 342 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh guess what I feel like because I didn't 343 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: get that house. I have way more money. 344 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: So I get that too. Like I was like, I've 345 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: just made so much fun. 346 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: I was like, so sure, do you want to go 347 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: shopping because like, I just feel well, it was tax 348 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: free weekends. So I also wanted to get her back 349 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: to school things. But I felt like I shopped more 350 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: for her with ease because I thought, look, all is funny. 351 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: I just saved not moving. I didn't lose capital gains. 352 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: This is amazing. What else do we need? I mean, 353 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense at all. I get that it 354 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: does for a second, It just like the feeling is different. 355 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: And when I was at Target though, because I was 356 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: trying to declutter my house, I was like not allowing 357 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: myself to buy anything except for this one lamp that 358 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: is going to look so cute in my living room. 359 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: But then also my ADHD brain, which is why I 360 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: am the way I am about the knobs and the polls, 361 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: Like I don't want it's overwhelming to make a decision 362 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: on which knobs, but I'm under pressure. I'll just make 363 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: a decision about the knobs, which I was able to do, 364 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: which is why I feel accomplished well with the lamp. 365 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to feel accomplished as well with that. So 366 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: I get home and I bust open the box and 367 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: it's a complicated situation. It's not there's three parts, and 368 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: it's like one of those overhangs, like it's going to 369 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: stretch over the couch and hang there with like three 370 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: little and there is like shades. So I start putting 371 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: it together, just assembling it willing only I'm like, oh 372 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: this stan's okay, mm hm, just this way. I put 373 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: it in the position where it's going to be behind 374 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: the couch, and I start building it from the bottom up, 375 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: and then I sort of get to the top and 376 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm stuck, and I think, okay, well that's fine, I'll 377 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: go look at the instructions. Now that I'm to this point, 378 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: so I look at the instructions and at the top 379 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: it says in all letters, this is a two person assembly. 380 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: Please do it on the floor, like a carpeted area 381 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: on the floor near where you want it. I had 382 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: it exactly where I wanted, standing straight up. 383 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: But this is like on the hard way. 384 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: They want you to lay it down on the carpet 385 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: assemble it from the top down. So I had already 386 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: done it all wrong and backwards, so all my hard 387 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: work is undone, and then I'm over it at that point, 388 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: so the lamp is just like that, not finished out 389 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: there by the couch, and now I'm not selling my house, 390 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 2: so I don't have the motivation to finish it, and 391 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: I lost all my energy to do it. So I'm 392 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: an idiot and didn't look at the instructions, and I'm like, 393 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: why am I this way? So then I got hyper 394 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: fixated on the position of my couch and for the 395 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 2: next hour I kept inching it like you know, a 396 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: quarter of an inch, half an inch, an inch to 397 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: the left of the right front back until I got 398 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: it in the right position, which if I dedicated that 399 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: hour to breading the instructions and doing the lamp. The 400 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: lamp would be done, but something about hyperfixating on the 401 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: couch like felt better to me. 402 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: Well, also, you want to the feeling of getting it done, 403 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: like I think I got addicted to Facebook marketplace because 404 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: like the feeling of making a sale. Yeah, it's like 405 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: you know, yes, and so like the feeling of getting 406 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: the couch where you want it, like that can happen 407 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 3: faster than you having to redo the lamp, Like I 408 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 3: want another easy task, but I know to. 409 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: Read the instructions. I know this, but instructions are boring 410 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: to me, and I'd rather do trial and error, which 411 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: is what I'm in the middle of. And another reasons 412 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: are overwhelming. 413 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: Rather, you create chaos in your life by not reading 414 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: the instructions of putting together your lamp than you moving. 415 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: So if you need a little chaos, just go buy 416 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: something that needs to be assembled and do it without 417 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: the instructions. 418 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: And then give up on it halfway and then it 419 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: just leave it there, yeah, until Shannon helps me or something. 420 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: Speaking of Shannon, she found the symbolism. 421 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: Of a dead bunny. Oh am, I gonna like it. 422 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: A dead rabbit can signify a loss, a need to 423 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: let go of something, or transition in life like a relationship, 424 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: a phase of life, or even a particular mindset. So 425 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: I needed to let go of that house. Well, you 426 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: needed to let go of some maybe that house. But 427 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: also I felt like, in your house buying. 428 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 3: Process, you can tell me your feedback. 429 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I have feedback here. I started to think. Halfway 430 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: through my thought, I was like, I don't want this 431 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: to come out rude. Yeah, because like I don't know 432 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: you're I'm not trying to tell you. 433 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: What to do. 434 00:19:53,800 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 5: But you did have a little bit of a lack mindset. 435 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 5: You did have a little bit of a lack mindset, yeah, 436 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 5: And I wanted you to think with more abundance. 437 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: So I just kept texting you. You're a money magnet, 438 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: You're a house magnet. You make money, Circulating money brings 439 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 2: you joy, which obviously these are just playful things. It's 440 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: not totally real, but in case it is real, and 441 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: keep saying it. 442 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 3: I did have a black mindset because I didn't want 443 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 3: to get myself. I'm doing a lot of things right 444 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: now that are costing me a lot of money. Well, 445 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: that costs a lot of money. So I also know 446 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 3: myself and. 447 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: They're important things. 448 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, But I also am somebody who 449 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: like I talked about. I don't know if it was 450 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: last week or the week before, but I do things 451 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 3: without thinking, and that usually works very well for me. 452 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: But I don't do big financial risks without so I 453 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: had to think about this stuff. And I don't know 454 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 3: that I have like money trauma. I think I just 455 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: like having money in the bank versus like But then 456 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: my financial advisor even said, he said, what's the point 457 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: of having money if you're not spending it? Like, what's 458 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: the point of making money in your life and working 459 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: really hard and then just like letting it sit there forever? 460 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: You can't go to heaven with trailer hitch. 461 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 3: That's what they say. That's what financial advisor was saying. That. 462 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: Then who's the guy from Sugarland? The guy Christian? I 463 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: was gonna say Christian Bale, but that's Batman, Christian Johnson, 464 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: Christian Christian from Sugarland. I think he has a song 465 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: like that. He had sugar Land the band, and then 466 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: he had his own Christian Bush. Yes, that's it. I 467 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: think he has a song literally called. 468 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: Okay came to Heaven with the trailer, Hitch. 469 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: Houston's probably gonna cut that out. Houston told us. Our 470 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: producer told us the other day that for the podcast, 471 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 2: sometimes Kat and I will start singing and he's like, 472 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: just say, y'all know, I've been editing some of that 473 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: out because we give him. We give him full control. 474 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: And you said, wait what yes, editing out our jingles 475 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: that go on for far too long? How dare you? Yeah, 476 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: which is probably. 477 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: Why we're no longer like a feeling of. 478 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: The day, because I think it was quite annoying. 479 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, in Houston let us know because he does have 480 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: full control for that, and we trust him and we 481 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: don't go back and listen, and so we had no idea. 482 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, just so y'all know, I've been making 483 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 2: the executive decision to cut out some of your singing. 484 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: And we're like, oh, I literally did reply, Wait. 485 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: What's on YouTube's still on YouTube? Yeah, because Kat diden 486 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: edited out of there. 487 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: But so yeah, if you want the singing YouTube. 488 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 3: Subscribe to her YouTube channel. If we want to hear us, Yeah, 489 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: we want the musical version subscribed to for our YouTube channel, like. 490 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: And subscribe, which Cryocat's in here she does our video, 491 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: and she was the one that helped me move my 492 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: furniture to begin with. Like I was able to move 493 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: it inch by inch by myself, like just rear, but 494 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: to rearrange how I rearrange because I flipped it and 495 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: put the couch on the other side in the chairs. 496 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: Wait, I'm just putting this together. You guys did that 497 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: by yourself. Just couch is so big? 498 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, me and cat, but I would say cat mostly, 499 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: or it's not, it's not. 500 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: Cats, like she just watched me. 501 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: Well, what had happened was I have golfer's elbow, Oh, 502 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: which is that's what they call pain in the inner 503 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: part of your elbow. And it's not necessarily from golf. 504 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: It's just like tennis elbow is the outside like a 505 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: dull pain, like a throbbing pain. And like even right 506 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: now when I press it, it's tender. Someone said it's 507 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: brought on by perimenopause. This is when I was painting 508 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: the laundry. 509 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: Everything I feel like perrimonte. Pause. Now what if it's 510 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: just like you that motion hurt your arm for it? 511 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: I mean it could be, but also yes, I do 512 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: agree with you that everything feels like perimenopause or ADHD. 513 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, in my life. So maybe this was just like 514 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 3: because you were working. 515 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: Well, you wait till you're forty four and then hit 516 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: me out when you when you're mid forties, and it. 517 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: I can still paint. 518 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: Like for example, I was with my boyfriend on I 519 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: guess this was this last weekend. So it was on 520 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: a Saturday. Had it been a great day, great Saturday, 521 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: you know the kind of Saturday we'd all held for 522 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: and we had plans to just like go hang out. 523 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: We were going to maybe go to the driving range, 524 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: hit some golf balls, and then go grab a bite 525 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: to eat, real low key way to wind down. 526 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: Did you even with your golfer A yeah, wow, Well. 527 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: I hadn't it. I we didn't, so you didn't know. 528 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: We didn't go telling say you could hit golf balls, 529 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: but you can't move the couch. Now, I haven't hit 530 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: a golf ball, because I'll tell you what happened. Okay, 531 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, out of nowhere, like thirty minutes 532 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: before we're about to go, I start to just get 533 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: really uncomfortable. Everything is uncomfortable, and I am physically just fit. 534 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, can't explain it. I'm annoyed, I'm uncomfortable, 535 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: and I'm aware. I'm like, what is happening. This does 536 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 2: not feel right and we were just having a good day. 537 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: I have nothing to be annoyed at. Then all of 538 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: a sudden, I get sad, and then I really start 539 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: to worry because I have nothing to be sad about. 540 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: I even look at him and I just said, I'm 541 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: uncomfortable and I feel sad and this is freaking me 542 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: out because We've had a great day and life is good. 543 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: I have nothing to be sad about. And then he's like, okay, 544 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: so he starts kind of rubbing my shoulder like he's like, 545 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: just take a few deep breaths, and I'm like and 546 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, tears just start flooding down 547 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: my face, like I can't stop them, and I'm just 548 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: sitting there and I was like, I don't even know 549 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: what's happening. I'm not sad right now, Like I don't 550 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: feel sad, but I have to cry and I'm crying 551 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 2: and I can't explain it. That's very menopausal. 552 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: You can't tell me otherwise. 553 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 2: So then he's like, well, maybe we need to just 554 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: like what would feel good for you right now. And 555 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: so I sat there, I cried as much as I could, 556 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: and then you know, crying released his chemicals that helped 557 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: you feel better. So I felt a little better, and 558 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: I was like, maybe we should just go for a walk. 559 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: So when we were at his house, so we just 560 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 2: walked outside, went for a walk, and then his son 561 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: was home and we were gonna end up if we 562 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 2: hit golf balls. We were just going to eat by ourselves. 563 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: And then his son was like going to figure something out, 564 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: so we were like, let's just go, Let's take him, 565 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 2: take him out to eat. He'd probably love that. And 566 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 2: so we ended up doing a little mini family dinner 567 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 2: with one of our five kids. And it was a 568 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 2: totally different night than what we had planned, like our 569 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 2: cute little date night got hijacked by my hormones. But 570 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: it ended up being better was what I needed. But 571 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: I have no idea why. I just started crying, and 572 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 2: I was thinking, he's never experienced whatever that was, Like 573 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: he's experienced me so nap a little bit at times. 574 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 2: Not whatever that was was really weird, and he handled 575 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: it like a champ. I must say, you've cried in 576 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: front of him, yes, but there was a legit reason. 577 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: If I've cried in front of him, it's been like, 578 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: you know, going on like yeah, yeah, are kids ever 579 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: going to get along? Or I'm going to meet your 580 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: wife that passed away and spend the weekend with her family, 581 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: and I'm overwhelmed by that, Like those are when I like, 582 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 2: that's valid tears. This was unexplainable. 583 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: Okay, that's different than like I was painting all day 584 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 3: and then I got this injury, but it couldn't be 585 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: from the painting. In that motion, it's probably from Perry, 586 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: but that's different. 587 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I was saying like that's explainable, but also 588 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm. 589 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: Maybe I could also be wrong. I'm not I know 590 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: nothing about Perrymuntahause. 591 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: Well, there's just fun things like that to look forward to, 592 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: Like when do you and Patrick You're forty four and 593 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: you and Patrick are going to be having the great 594 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: day and you're about to go hit some golf balls 595 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you're like. 596 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: Well, I had my week two what was it two 597 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: weeks ago when I just was like crying, But you 598 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: know why that's happening. 599 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hormones too. 600 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was weird. I felt sad though this was 601 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: it was so weird because I was like, I'm not 602 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: sad right now, golf balls. I don't need any a 603 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: kid who's like overtired, who's like I want to go by. Yeah, 604 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 605 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: I think if it was more was it like whiney. 606 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: I was just more like purplay. 607 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: Like I was like, you want to go do something, 608 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: but then like you're feeling this way at the same time. 609 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: That don't make sense. 610 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: We're speaking a cry. Okay, we were talking about the 611 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: golferslf on moving the furniture or whatever. But I was 612 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: on the phone with her before I did that. She 613 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: was like, what are you doing? And I was like, well, 614 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: I think, Alex, I'm gonna go hit golf balls or whatever. 615 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 2: And she was like do you like doing that? Like 616 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: she goes, is this something you want to do? And 617 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: I was like yeah, I went weird. Yeah, I guess 618 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: if you're just like you're with the right person, great 619 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: interest change. 620 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: So I had a roommate. She's still one of my 621 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: best friends, Kira. You've met her. She lived with me 622 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: for like a year and she was dating her now 623 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: husband and he's a big golf. For This was pre 624 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: Patrick too, so I never had golfed in my life, 625 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: and she would always like get dressed and I was like, 626 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to the golf course with Jay whatever. 627 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: And I remember multiple times being like that sucks. Like 628 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: I remember being like, oh, you've just found your day 629 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: at the golf course, and she's like, it's actually kind 630 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: of fun. And then I met Patrick and I was like, Kyra, 631 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: low key, I love golf. I mean, I don't want 632 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: to do eighteen holes. You went and bought clubs. Okay, 633 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: first of all, I did not buy clubs. Patrick bought 634 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: me clubs, but that was a gift for him. It 635 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: wasn't a gift for me. He wanted me to have 636 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: my own clubs. You would like them, but I didn't 637 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: like them. But they're purple, and I like going to 638 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: do like nine holes. I really would love if they 639 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: did like six holes. That would be sweet. This is 640 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: where I lose interest. But when I gave a speech 641 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: at Kira's wedding and one of the things I like 642 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: had a list of things that had like learned from 643 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: her and Jay, and one of them was about golf. 644 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: And I said, I said, what you just said, it 645 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: doesn't matter as much what you're doing but the person 646 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: that you're doing it with, because I now love golfing 647 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: with Patrick. And it's not that I now love the 648 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: game of golf, it's when you're doing something with somebody else, 649 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: and I also get to see the joy Patrick has. 650 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh, I can kind of enjoy this, 651 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: but I think I more so just like being with him. 652 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: You know, it's exactly what it is. And you get 653 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: to wear a cute outfit. Yes, And I was about 654 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: to say, speaking of the outfits, I found some cute 655 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: ones on Amazon. I'll have to send you the link. 656 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: Oh, you're gonna say, Facebook Marketplace. 657 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: I didn't know to look for clothes on there, but 658 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: maybe I'll check it out because I look for other 659 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: things on Facebook Marketplace, like I sell and I shop there, like, 660 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: yeah all the time, like trying to look for things. 661 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of luck, but I have sometimes. Yeah, 662 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: Like there's a few things that I've missed. Oh like 663 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: my dining room table and my chairs. 664 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: That was clutch. That was a really goodbye, really good 665 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: ye CEB two. 666 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're pretty much brand new. Speaking of cry, 667 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: she went and carried that pick Oh. 668 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: Really the truck too. Yeah, she picks up a mattress 669 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: for you. 670 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 671 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: I think she's my strong friend, strong friend. Oh yeah, 672 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: I think it was forbidden because she's friends been too. 673 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: So we were moving stuff. 674 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 3: Hey I'm moving soon. You got cryokat. 675 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: So you were on vacation, yes, which was really exciting, 676 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: But I was on vacation. 677 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: I was on real vacation. 678 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: And you said you read a book there that you 679 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: want to recommend because you have a book and I 680 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: have a show. 681 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: So I don't know about you, but I really get 682 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: my like reading bug when I'm on vacation, and then 683 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: I want to read every book after that and I can't. 684 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: I've learned that this book has a sequel, Perfect Marriage. 685 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: It was so good and well, I don't want to 686 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: say anything. I don't want to say anything, but you give. 687 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: It like five I'm not marriages out of five. 688 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: I would give it a four point five out of five. 689 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: That's good. And there's a sequel, so like, that's exciting. 690 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be over yet. I read it 691 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: so fast. I read it and like because the first 692 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: maybe three or four days of vacation, I didn't read 693 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: it all because I was playing you know, I. 694 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: Go with your nieces and. 695 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so my nieces and nephews. It was really cute 696 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 3: to watch them on the beach and like jump in 697 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: the water with them. But then once people got their 698 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 3: like playing jitters out, then I read three days finished 699 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: it and I gasped at the end. I was sitting 700 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: next to Patrick and I go ah, and he was like, well, 701 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: now you have to tell me what happened. 702 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: Well, that's how I feel about We Were Liars, because 703 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: you're watching that right now, and when that ending happened. 704 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: I guess. 705 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out because I'm on I'm 706 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: in the middle of the seventh episode and there's eight episodes, 707 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 3: and I know something crazy happens, so I know it's 708 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: not going to be what I think it is. 709 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything because I don't want to run 710 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: the rest of spoiling anything at all other than I 711 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: also gassed. So You've Got the Perfect Marriage is a 712 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: book that'll make you gasp, We Were Liars, which is 713 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: on Amazon. 714 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: Can I your gasp? 715 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: No? 716 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: No, I can't even guess. 717 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: Because then other people. 718 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to write it down after this and 719 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: once we've had enough time, Oh. 720 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: You could say it to me off Mike. I just 721 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: don't want to ruin it everybody else. 722 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to write it down so then 723 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: I can read it on Mike and be like, see 724 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: I guessed it right. 725 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, We Were Liars is something you're watching. I've 726 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: already finished, but that's not what I was going to recommend. 727 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: I thought I was bringing something new to the table 728 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: because this is also on Amazon. 729 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: Is. 730 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: When I finished We Were Liars, it rolled into like 731 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: a different series, which is Shiny Happy People about the 732 00:33:54,280 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: Dugger Family, a documentary. Yeah, and I mind blown, like 733 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: things that I learned and saw. It was like unbelievable 734 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: stuff that I've forgotten about their family. And it's just 735 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: crazy that that the dad thought like I'm gonna put 736 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: my family on TV and like this sort of stuff 737 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 2: is going to be happening, and this is how I'm 738 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 2: going to handle it. It's just sort of like that 739 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm the head of the house. Probably mentality of. 740 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: Like, well, what I'm not going to occasion it's like 741 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 3: a no, it's that weird. 742 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: I can't remember. Maybe Shannon can look at the exact 743 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: because I don't want to get that. 744 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: It's very obedient. 745 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: It's like a fundamentalist. 746 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So you were telling me that and I 747 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: was like, I think i've I watched it when it 748 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 3: came out. 749 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it's not new. Come to find out. You were like, 750 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: I feel like this's been out for a while. So 751 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: I just googled it and it came out in twenty 752 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: twenty three, so it's been out a couple of years. 753 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 3: But I have I don't remember a lot of like 754 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: you're saying all this and I'm like, what was shocking? 755 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: And I forget, Oh, well, it's okay, so one thing, 756 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: and this isn't spoiling anything. But the adult daughter, she 757 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: is prominently in it, and then one of his nieces 758 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: is talking about it. But the adult daughter and her cousin, 759 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: I mean, they were kids when the show started, but 760 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: as they matured and got older and they even got married, 761 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 2: and then they were used on the show. They never 762 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 2: got paid because he was the one that TLC had 763 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: in the contract. They paid the dad and then I 764 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: guess he could disperse. And there was a time where 765 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: she was having a birthing episode where she was pregnant, 766 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: specially giving birth and she was like I'm not I 767 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: don't want cameras in there. Or her dad like the 768 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: day before her wedding or something, he just casually like 769 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 2: had the contract down on the table, was like, hey, babe, 770 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: I need you to sign this, and she kind of 771 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: ran by. And obviously she's a lot going on. She's 772 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: getting married the next day, so she didn't pay attention 773 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: to every detail and she signed it. Well, it was like, 774 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: I'm making this up, but like say, it was a 775 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: five year deal, well after her marriage, when she's pregnant 776 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: with her first child, that's within that five year window. 777 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 2: And then she's like, oh, well, we don't want cameras 778 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 2: in but part of the contract was well you don't 779 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: have a choice, and. 780 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 3: She wasn't getting paid. 781 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: And then she was like, well TLC, can y'all give 782 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: up us money for this because and they're like, oh, well, 783 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: our deal is with your dad and we're paying him handsomely. 784 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: So then they went to the dad and said we 785 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: would like payment, and he said I can pay you 786 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: ten dollars an hour. Oh isn't that into Okay? 787 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't finish it because I don't remember that. Yeah, 788 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 3: just crazy stuff like that that feels very I llegal, 789 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: especially with the kids. I think now I don't know. 790 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: What the laws are, but they were adult that's why. 791 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 3: Right. But in California there there's some law that's changed 792 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: about like influencers and stuff where if you're using your 793 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: kids as part of whatever, you have to pay them. 794 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 3: So that's why a lot of people are moving out 795 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 3: of California. I feel like, I don't know that they 796 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 3: can like so they don't have to do because they 797 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 3: lose money. There's some weird law that like you are 798 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 3: losing people. 799 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: That like you are losing money protect children, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, 800 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's weird. 801 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 3: I'm not condoning it. I'm just saying I think there's 802 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 3: something like that going on. 803 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: It's okay, let's see Dugger religion independent Fundamentalist Baptists affiliated 804 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 2: with the Institute and basically Principles. That's well IBLP, Yes, IBLP, 805 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: a conservative Chritian organization. And then there's that one guy. 806 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 2: I feel like the church I grew up too. They 807 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 2: would listen to stuff by him, but there was a 808 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 2: lot of his seminars that he would do and they 809 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 2: were very much in alignment with his stuff. And that 810 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: guy was just like spreading his. 811 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 3: But it's like a kind of cult. 812 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels a little a little weird. 813 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 3: Okay, well, maybe I'll watch this again, even though it's 814 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 3: an old wreck. 815 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: Apparently there's a season two of something that season one. 816 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 3: But is it about a different family. 817 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 2: Potentially it could be about something completely different. 818 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 3: Well that makes me sad, though, because I watched was 819 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: it nineteen Kids in Counting? Yeah, where they kept changing 820 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: that or actually I watched that and I was like, oh, 821 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: this family seems so nice. 822 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: No, no, it's a mess. I remember the brother he 823 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: like did inappropriate things with the sisters. And then the 824 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 2: one of the sisters that it had happened to, she's 825 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 2: the one that is now part of the documentary, and 826 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: was saying, oh, yeah, I never got paid like she's 827 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: she even oh she did. I would maybe find that interesting. 828 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: She seems like a really sweet person, and I'm glad 829 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: that her and her husband are kind of out of that. 830 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, nothing about that seemed healthy. And they 831 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 2: interviewed other people that were watching the show that were 832 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: part of that religion and they or had grown up 833 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 2: in that religion, or at least were married to men 834 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: like that in the religion, and they felt very suppressed, 835 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: and they were like, no way TLC is putting this 836 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: on there because they know what life is like really 837 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: when the cameras aren't rolling, because they know how these 838 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: homes work, and so they're having to watch it and 839 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 2: being like, oh my gosh, like this is my life. 840 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: But in america's like eating this up and these people 841 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: are gaining fame. But when it's just not a healthy situation. 842 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 3: That's a lesson though that. I mean, it's hard because 843 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 3: if the content's interesting, we want to watch it. But 844 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 3: it's that John and Kate plus eight like that was 845 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 3: nothing what it seemed. Did you not watch that? Yeah? 846 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 3: I loved that show, but like I think, what. 847 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just interesting. You're like I loved 848 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: nineteen Kids Accounting and John in Place, John and Kate, 849 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 2: let's say. 850 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 3: And I love No Mom. I loved Breaking Amish too. 851 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: Oh I don't know. 852 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 3: Oh that one was cool. They I guess when you're 853 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 3: Amish you get to have like this experience, I mean, 854 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 3: says this show. I don't know if this is actually true, 855 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 3: but you could have this experience where you go into 856 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 3: the real world and then they have to make the 857 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 3: decision do I want to come back into my amish 858 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 3: world or do I want to live here? But if 859 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 3: I live out in the real world, I'm cut off 860 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 3: from everybody. So you're watching these teenagers or like young 861 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 3: adults go and experience things for the first time, like 862 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 3: going to a movie theater or drinking or just like 863 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 3: going to a mall. Stuff like that. Like with Freedom, 864 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: I bet a lot of it was not true now 865 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 3: that I'm talking about it. 866 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: Or maybe it was much like fuck, you'll believe anything. 867 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 3: Actually, Okay, Now I watched this in like middle school. Yeah, 868 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 3: because it's. 869 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: Like twelve fast forward to the you now, like you 870 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 2: are very skeptical. 871 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: Which is why I'm a skeptic, because breaking. 872 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 2: Homage, which is why you wanted to do our Mel 873 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: Robin's Deep Dive. 874 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 875 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: So this is a good transition into the really cool 876 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: voicemail that we got. So this is a good transition 877 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: into the really cool voicemail that we got from a 878 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 2: fellow licensed therapist. She's a listener from Florida, and we're 879 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 2: gonna play her voicemail. No, and this is about the 880 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: Mel Robin's Deep Dive episode that we did about the 881 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: Leton theory. 882 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: I usually never called because I feel leaving voicemails, but 883 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: I think the greeting really put me at ease. 884 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 4: For one, but I'm listening to the Mill Robin seep 885 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 4: Dive and I'm not even all the way done, but 886 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 4: I felt so inclined that I had to pause it and. 887 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: Came because as a therapist, I, like some therapists in Florida, 888 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm finding myself saying yes, oh my gosh, yes, I'm 889 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: putting my finger on exactly why I've been struggling with 890 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: the self help world, because at first I thought maybe 891 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: I was jealous that people are so successful in this 892 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: realm and maybe I'm not at that level, but I 893 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: really have a hard time finding a way to monetize 894 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: the help and the fact that therapy really isn't all 895 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: that sexy and it's a really slow process to create 896 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 1: lasting change. 897 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 4: So I just thank you for the conversation. I appreciate 898 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 4: it great things. 899 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: So that was nice and from someone that's in the 900 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: space that you're in that sometimes can be challenging. 901 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 3: And I like that she said. A part of her 902 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 3: was like, maybe I'm just jealous because this person's successful, 903 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: because I've had to ask myself that a lot of like, well, 904 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 3: is this just like a jealous not able to be 905 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: like happy for other people, or is this skeptical because 906 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 3: there feels like there's some manipulation or there's some false advertising. 907 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 3: So I feel that too sometimes, Well. 908 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: You did a great job with the Deep Dive, I 909 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: gotta say. I went back and watched it on YouTube, 910 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 2: and I was a little nervous, especially because I was 911 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: the Mel Robbins fan, and I think I've said five 912 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 2: hundred times I didn't want to feel like a bash 913 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 2: session because also we don't want to be mean grel 914 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 2: known for just like not having space for everybody or 915 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: putting people down. And also we can be a space 916 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: where research can be done and information can be shared. 917 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: And a lot of people didn't know about the plagiarism controversy, 918 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 2: and I just assumed because that's part of our algorithms, 919 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: and I fed that a lot that most people knew. 920 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: We got so many notes from people that had no idea, 921 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 2: and then a lot of the similar vibe to the 922 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 2: caller the voicemail of like I kind of just always 923 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 2: knew something was a little off, but I can quite 924 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: put my finger on it, so thank you for now 925 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 2: giving an explanation to like what was not sitting well 926 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 2: with me. I'll read an email that we got, which, 927 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 2: by the way, if you want to call and leave 928 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: a voicemail. And I love that she said at the beginning. 929 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: I usually never call because I feel weirdly being voicemails. 930 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people feel that way, which 931 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 2: I thought a lot of people would like to call. Yeah, 932 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: but that's just we get more emails than voicemails. But 933 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 2: if you feel inclined, eight seven seven two o seven 934 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 2: two oh seven seven is the number, and then you 935 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: can email Hey, they're at Feeling Things podcast dot com, 936 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: like Beth did. Here's what Beth wrote in Hey Kat 937 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 2: and Amy. I'm a long time listener of Four Things, 938 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: like from the very first episode, as in I still 939 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 2: make my bed to this day because of Amy, and 940 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 2: it changed my life for good. I never knew how 941 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 2: to journal, and then I bought the Four Things Journal 942 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 2: because it felt accessible, and it slowly change my life, 943 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 2: as in I now journal a full page almost every day. 944 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 2: The transformation from Kat joining the show as a guest, 945 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 2: to her own podcasts and the Fifth Thing to Feeling 946 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 2: Things has been so cool to watch and cheer on. 947 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 2: It feels like watching two good friends find the very 948 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: best versions of themselves. 949 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 3: I had actually stopped. 950 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 2: Listening to four things and was only doing the fifth 951 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 2: thing due to time constraints, and the decision to become 952 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 2: feeling things has been such a gift to me, So 953 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 2: thank you, Amy. It's been such a joy and encouragement 954 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 2: of my own journey to watch you learn, grow and 955 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 2: change your mind. And I'm gonna insert myself here and 956 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 2: this is not the email any talking, but and that's 957 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 2: where I feel about Mel, because I did talk about 958 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 2: her so much, and that that was another thing, like 959 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 2: an Instagram dms that I was seeing from people, was 960 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 2: like I only started following Mel because of you, or 961 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 2: I learned about Mel from you, And then I felt like, oh, shoot, 962 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 2: you know it just it's a weird place to be 963 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 2: in when you've hyped someone up and then again that 964 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 2: veil is lifted and then you feel like, now you're 965 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 2: bringing this other information. But then when I got that 966 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: line from Beth, that was very encouraging to me because 967 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 2: I am allowed to learn, grow and change my mind 968 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 2: and she put change in all caps. So Beth, thank you. 969 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 2: So much for that specific line, and then she went 970 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: on to say some nice things about me blah blah blah, 971 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 2: and then she went on to which thank you Beth 972 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 2: for that words of affirmation or my love language, but 973 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 2: I'm not going to read them for everybody else. And 974 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 2: then she said the Mel Robins episode, thank you for 975 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 2: the Deep Dive. I was introduced to her through you 976 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: and initially liked what she. 977 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 3: Had to say. 978 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 2: However, recently with the let them stuff, it just didn't 979 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 2: sit right with me. I didn't even know about the 980 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 2: plagiarism part. It went against everything I've been doing in 981 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 2: my healing and therapy journey. And while it wouldn't have 982 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: bothered me if you still followed or quoted her firm 983 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 2: believer that we all have different journeys, it did make 984 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 2: me feel connected and seen that you also felt disenfranchised 985 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 2: as well. So I truly appreciate y'all's Deep Dive episode. 986 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 2: It was so refreshingly transparent. Thanks for everything you both 987 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,959 Speaker 2: have done for me in ways you'll never know. Hope 988 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 2: you have the day you need to have, Beth Duncan, 989 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 2: so thank you Beth for that, and thank you Kat 990 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 2: for the thoughtful deep dive because that was all you, 991 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 2: and you executed it beautifully, exceeded any expectations I had, 992 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 2: and I think I had a lot of expectations on 993 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 2: how I wanted it to play out, and you killed 994 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 2: it well. 995 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 3: Thanks. And I was thinking as you were reading that 996 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 3: you changing your mind in this area is brave too. 997 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 3: It's I think there's courage in that to say like, oh, 998 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 3: not that you were wrong, because it's that you learned 999 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 3: more information, but I think you putting yourself in that position, 1000 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 3: you could have just been like, no, I love mel Well. 1001 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,919 Speaker 2: I still found myself struggling with like saying that I'm 1002 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 2: not like exactly. I think there are things I still like. 1003 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 2: And again I think I learned more from guests that 1004 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 2: she has on now than her. But I did find myself, 1005 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 2: even though I was I'm increasingly more just about her, 1006 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: I still wanted to be like, I mean, it's not 1007 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 2: that I'm not a fan, it's just like, this is information, 1008 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 2: and do with it what you will, like am I probably? 1009 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 2: Am I going to be like? I started to read 1010 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 2: her last book and I couldn't finish it. If she 1011 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 2: puts out another book, now, it's like the next phase 1012 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 2: of my relationship with hers. I'm probably not even gonna 1013 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,760 Speaker 2: own that book or ask for it as a gift 1014 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 2: because I told my sister, oh yeah, I would love it, 1015 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: so she got it for me. I did see someone 1016 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 2: left us a comment on Instagram. They're like, oh, shoot, 1017 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: what do I do about my let them tattoo that 1018 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 2: I got? And I was like, well, people were. 1019 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: Getting those tattoos. There was a whole when I was 1020 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 3: doing my research. Apparently there was a movement when that 1021 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 3: poem came out that people were getting those tattoos. 1022 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because so Cassie Phillips had gotten tattoos, Bill wet them. 1023 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 3: Tattoo can And I hope that this was clear. Let 1024 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 3: them works in a certain context. It just isn't as 1025 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 3: overarching life changing and works in every area of your 1026 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 3: life like some of the stuff that has been coming 1027 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 3: out lately about it. It has limitations, but it's just 1028 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 3: like we talked about any of the other little things 1029 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 3: we have, like the weight to worry and all that stuff, 1030 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 3: those still can be meaningful to you. 1031 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 2: So I replied to that person and I said just that, 1032 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 2: like it wasn't like take the information we shared, but 1033 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 2: your tattoo can still be special and be very fitting 1034 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 2: in certain cases. But it made me think about our tattoos, 1035 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,439 Speaker 2: because we want to get some of ours lasered off. 1036 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 2: Like I've got joy and a spat and they're bleeding 1037 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 2: so bad. Like I want to get on lasered off, 1038 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 2: but I have a summer tan, or you can't have 1039 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 2: sun on your skin. 1040 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 3: I don't think, oh when you get them, well, I 1041 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 3: just don't want to pay for it right now, cause 1042 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 3: am I having other things? I'm having one? Do you 1043 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 3: say I have a limited you'ring lack? You have a 1044 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 3: lack mindset. Maybe if I just start getting my tattoos 1045 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 3: lasered off, I'll just be a money magnet and we'll 1046 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 3: just come to me. 1047 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 2: You already are like sell a fee things on Facebook 1048 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 2: for your tattoo removal. 1049 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 3: Please buy this patio furniture. I'd like to get my 1050 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 3: dad tooo removed. 1051 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 2: I mean, that's girl. Math sometimes is like, Okay, what 1052 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 2: am I not using right now? What can I offload? 1053 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 2: And then boom, well what do I. 1054 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 3: Want more than? What do I want more? This couch 1055 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 3: or my arm back? 1056 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 2: Well, it depends, is it like the main couch you 1057 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 2: sit on or is it when your mom gave you. 1058 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 2: That's sitting in the corner. 1059 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. I might I could sit on the ground. 1060 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 2: Like I have this rocker chair under my tree in 1061 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 2: my backyard. 1062 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 3: It's red. 1063 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen it. It's like a glider. 1064 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. And so do you sell it for you? Well, 1065 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 3: I'll take you percent. Listen, Oh is it from your mom? 1066 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 2: It was my mom's. 1067 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 3: Oh, then you can't sell that. 1068 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 2: But well, I was thinking about stuff your mom gave 1069 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 2: you and how you're selling. 1070 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 3: It, and oh, I know, wayfair. 1071 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 2: I know this is totally different. I'm just telling you 1072 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,439 Speaker 2: the thought I had. You know how one thought leads 1073 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: to another thought. 1074 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 3: You know that. Yeah, I've heard that cyber too. 1075 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So when you're talking about that, I was like, oh, 1076 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 2: thinking about my patio furniture from my mom, which I 1077 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 2: don't love the color red, but my mom loved red. 1078 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 2: So I've thought for a long long time I need 1079 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 2: to paint it. So I really need some sort of 1080 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 2: dopamine hit or motivation to get that painted. But also 1081 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 2: I was seeing the other day, do I have to 1082 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 2: hold onto this like I have some of her jewelry? 1083 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 2: That means a lot to me that I wear all 1084 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 2: the time. I don't even know that I really like 1085 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 2: the glider. I just keep holding on to the dang glider. 1086 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 2: It's sitting out underneath the tree facing a fence, like 1087 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 2: if you were to sit in it. There's nothing enjoyful 1088 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 2: like what you're gliding. And you're like, look at my 1089 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 2: neighbor's fence and is it dirty? 1090 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: Look? 1091 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 2: Yes, it's dirty. The paint is peeling. 1092 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 3: Okay. But but but you could repurpose that into a 1093 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 3: beautiful piece of furniture. There are people that do that. 1094 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 3: I watch them on TikTok all the time. They take 1095 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 3: like a dresser they found on the side of the 1096 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 3: road and they turn it into like this beautiful work 1097 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 3: of art. So I think that could be a metaphor 1098 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 3: of something refresh in your life. I couldn't be me, 1099 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 3: because I would just spray paint it. 1100 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I was gonna do with spray paint 1101 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 2: it like dark brown or not black. 1102 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 3: I think we can find you somebody who can like Okay, Well, 1103 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 3: we then we have to sell some things to be 1104 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 3: able to pay for the refurbished chair. 1105 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 2: It's okay, I would invest in it if it like 1106 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 2: makes my mom's peace special, Like, I'm okay with that. 1107 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 2: Circulating money brings me joy. Anytime you divide anything, just 1108 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 2: tell yourself that, because when you're paying money to somebody else, 1109 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 2: it's like you're giving. 1110 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 3: Your helping them exactly, helping them live the life that they. 1111 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 2: Were, and then that brings you joy. So therefore it's 1112 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 2: a it's the whole system. 1113 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's find somebody and if you're listening and 1114 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I do that and you'll live in 1115 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 3: the area, maybe they can come fix your chair. Yeah, yeah, 1116 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 3: don't it. This was Wayfair furniture, not like a family 1117 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 3: heirloom ordered it. 1118 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 2: I mean I have pieces. This light in here that 1119 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 2: I love is from Wayfair. 1120 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 3: It's baller, I know. I think I might buy it. 1121 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 2: I sent you the Wayfair. I think, yes, it's so cute. 1122 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know the brand of it. My 1123 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 2: moms could easily be from Wayfair. I have no idea. 1124 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 2: It's not some like precious. 1125 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 3: She isn't used to glide in it, and you would 1126 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 3: watch her glide on. 1127 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 2: Her back packet. That means I should sit in it. 1128 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 3: My mom never sat in this. I don't think my 1129 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 3: mom ever sat in this French shore. I don't have 1130 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 3: like a memory, but there are things that I have. 1131 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 3: As we're removing stuff, I kept being like, oh, I 1132 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 3: have a box of rolled coins in a shoe box, 1133 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 3: duct taped. It's so heavy. There's like two hundred dollars 1134 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 3: of rolled coins in this box. I will never cash 1135 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 3: it in because I found it in the closet of 1136 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 3: my grandfather's house when we were cleaning their house out 1137 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 3: after my grandma died. He had passed away before her, 1138 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 3: and we have memories of rolling coins with our grandfather 1139 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 3: when we were little, and so I took all of 1140 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 3: the rolled coins and I divide them out between four 1141 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 3: because I have three siblings, and which that was the 1142 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 3: hill of money in his closet, because what is that 1143 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 3: six hundred dollars And I will never we are moving it. 1144 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 3: Patrick's like what is this? And I'm like, We're never 1145 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 3: taking that to the bank. I will have that until 1146 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 3: the day I die because it is a memory, you know. 1147 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's to that. 1148 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 3: If I just found rolled coins in my parents' kitchen, 1149 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 3: I'd take them to the bank. I don't have a 1150 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 3: memory with that, but. 1151 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 2: Make your grandkids are for sure cashing that in. 1152 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 3: No, do not take this to the bank. This is 1153 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 3: a memory of your great great grandfather, your great grandfather. 1154 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 2: I was featuring Stashia finding that, and she'd be like. 1155 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 3: Yes, grandfather's grandfather. 1156 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 2: Feet don't fail me now, she'd catch that stuff in 1157 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 2: so fast. Okay, well. 1158 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 3: That's that. 1159 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 2: This is our episode. There's a lot of feelings in 1160 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,879 Speaker 2: this episode. We have feelings of we were in awe, 1161 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 2: we felt accomplished, we feel sentimental, yeah, proud, feel confused 1162 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 2: by hormones and weird cries, and I feel pain in 1163 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 2: my elbow. Lots of feelings and we hope that you 1164 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 2: enjoyed the mail Robins Deep Dive and appreciate it again. 1165 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,479 Speaker 2: I'll say one more time, Cat, you did an excellent job. 1166 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 2: We have requests for more deep dives, so we got 1167 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 2: to figure out who if y'all would like to send 1168 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 2: in your request. We've already gotten some, but you could 1169 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 2: send in people you would like them on and we 1170 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 2: can work on that. 1171 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 3: Things can be things on a cult or some kind 1172 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 3: of trend or something like that golfer's elbow. Ye deep, 1173 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 3: I know that anybody would listen to that, but maybe 1174 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 3: we could make it fun. 1175 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 2: I mean A deep dive on perimenopause would be so helpful, 1176 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 2: but I feel like we would need an expert. Yeah, 1177 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 2: for sure, not that's beyond our scope. And speaking of 1178 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 2: our ADHD showed up a lot in this episode too, 1179 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 2: so I know that a deep dive on that would 1180 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: be appreciated, but from an expert. So some of our 1181 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 2: deep dives maybe from us, or we'd have to bring 1182 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 2: in experts, but we're open to anything. So yes, send 1183 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 2: in whatever topic she would like looked into with the microscope. Yeah, 1184 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 2: and uh yeah, we hope you have it. 1185 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: We have, you have, I have. 1186 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 3: We are having the day you need to have. 1187 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 5: Bye. 1188 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: Bye