1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. I'll look out and I'll see a 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: lot of faces. I recognize it. And every one of 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: those people we joke about this from the stage. Every 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: one of those people has an origin story with me. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: None of them. None of those origin stories came from 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: the radio or a fancy write or a fancy soundtrack. 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: It came from one of their friends, usually dragging them 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: out and saying, hey, you got to listen to these guys. 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Taking a Walk podcast, the podcast hosted 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: by Buzznight, who talks with musicians and insiders and gets 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: the stories behind the music. On this episode, Buzz speaks 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: with underground indie artist Adam Ezrak. Adam has built a 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: fan community, one fan at a time, and he creates 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: great music, great events, all benefiting important causes. Adam has 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: collaborated with John Oates of Hall and Oates Fan and 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: he tells us about that and much more now on 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: Taking a Walk with Buzz Night. 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: So, Adam, thanks for being on Taking a Walk, and 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: thanks for all the great, amazing work you do for 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: so many communities. Where did you first get inspired to 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: build community as a musician? 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a really uh, that's a that's a 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: good question, h and a quick answer. It's it's you know, 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: my my mom is uh, it's a musician as well. 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: When I was growing up, she was a music educator, 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: but she was also a songwriter and uh and friends 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: with a ton of folk musicians. She would play music 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: constantly in the house, but she was also connected to 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: people that were they were They were out there making 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: a difference to the music that they made. 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: That's wonderful. Do you remember the first time you went 32 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: to see music performed in a concert setting? Oh? 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: Man, I mean she, I mean there were there were 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: a couple of formatives. First there my very first concert 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: she actually took me to because I was a little 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: kid and I loved Weird Al Yankovic, and she took 37 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: me to a Weird Al and the Monkeys were playing 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: over at Great Woods, down the roads from our house 39 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts, and I went to see that. But I 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: would say years years later. The more formative moment I 41 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: think was, you know, as a sixteen year old just 42 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: getting my license in high school, heading out again to 43 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: green Woods. But we would go down all summer long 44 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: to see that. The concerts that came through the Alman 45 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: Brothers and Steve Miller, right, like just these these and 46 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: I would go to these places, twenty thousand people and 47 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: I was just a kid. I didn't anybody there, right, 48 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: but suddenly I felt this right connection with to everybody, 49 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: and I just I felt like so strange to be 50 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: in a field with twenty thousand strangers, but none of 51 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: them you don't like strangers by the end of the night. 52 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: And and that was that was an amazing impactful That 53 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: was an amazing pactful, impactful thing for me to experiences 54 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: as a young fella. 55 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: Do you remember the ad for Maxell, the one where 56 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: the guys sitting in the chair. 57 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: And yes, with the with with with the drink, that 58 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: wind is blowing the drink into his hand while. 59 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: He's just you know, knocked out, almost you know, literally 60 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: blown away. Yeah, So was there was there a moment 61 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: one of those Great Woods shows that you just, you know, 62 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: to this day kind of go, I can't believe I 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: saw this band there, Whether it was the Allman Brothers 64 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: on their shows or Steve Miller or you know, is 65 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: there one that sticks out as that Maxell moment? Almost? 66 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, it might have been on when I'm thinking 67 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: about early concerts, that I experienced it really like blew 68 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: me away. I remember seeing the Black Crows at the 69 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: Orphan in Boston, a pretty small theater for those guys 70 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: at the time, sure, and they were just they were 71 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: like they were just larger than life. That band was though, 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: smoking and it was and it was. It had this 73 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: classic music sound that was rock and roll and heavy 74 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: and also not taking itself too seriously and it was 75 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: and they were also doing things that were totally original. 76 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: The whole thing was like, Oh that is the sound, 77 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: that is that is thing for me, you know. And 78 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: I remember that concert pretty vividly as like, Okay, that's 79 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: that's my kind of rock and roll right there. 80 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back to weird Al for a second 81 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: because I find it really interesting that he's as big 82 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: as he was back then. What do you think is 83 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: the right he's a phenomenal What do you think is 84 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: the key to an artist, a musician having longevity? 85 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: I think so one. I mean it for for Al, 86 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: it's a number of factors, right, super smart songwriter. Right, 87 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: his stuff has always been like well well done, like 88 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: thoughtfully put together and and and funny. But he is 89 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: also really capitalized throughout time throughout his career on the 90 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: biggest artists that were trending right before, you know, before 91 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: there was a term trending that that everybody used. He would, right, 92 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: he would. He was a He was a master at 93 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: finding that biggest, most right groundbreaking artist and then having 94 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: fun with it. Right. I mean it's the same right, right, 95 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift will come out with an album and there'll 96 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: be a million there'll be a there'll be a million 97 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: posts of people singing that one of her songs, right, 98 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: and there'll be a million people listening to those versions 99 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: of that. He had it all figured out way ahead 100 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: of time. But in addition, it's it seems like, and 101 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: I really you might know more about this than me, 102 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: but it seems like the way he's gone about it 103 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: is also super respectful with all of those artists he 104 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: has always Uh, it sounds like he's a kind of 105 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: guy that's always kind of gone out of his way 106 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: to get permission to be respectful, to be guchen on 107 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: an artist, but not in a way to denigrate the artist, 108 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: but in a way that somehow celebrates that artist. And 109 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: right it became almost it almost became a sign that 110 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: you were a successful artist that weird out did a 111 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: spoof on one of your songs. Right, he was, He 112 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: was brilliant. He still is brilliant at that exact time. 113 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: Very astute analysis, Adam, I really, you know, it's funny 114 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: how I had to go back to him, But I 115 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: was thinking about that career of his, and I think 116 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: you're a you're a student of the business of music. 117 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: In fact, I don't know if you know this, but 118 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: your name came up with a previous guest on taking 119 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: a walk. Who brought you? This guy named John Oates. 120 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: Oh, my buddy and buddy and a hero of mine. 121 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: So he he brought you up and as as we 122 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: did an episode. 123 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: And isn't he a nice guy? 124 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: He's a tremendously nice guy. But I think you two 125 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: have something else in common. He is is a true student. 126 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: You know of music, you know the history of it, 127 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: a deep understanding of it, which I believe you also have. 128 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: Is that o No, no, my my, uh. My knowledge 129 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: of music and music history pales in comparison to he is. Uh. 130 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: He is such a student. He is such a brilliant 131 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: student of music, old styles and and and and and 132 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: pop styles. Throughout the years. He can play anything. He 133 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: is incredibly versatile and uh and he just his his 134 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge is inspiring me. I mean, you know, 135 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: I'm a guy that never learned how to read music. 136 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: And I sat down on a on a guitar because 137 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: and I started writing writing songs because I because they 138 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: made me feel like me more than anything else in 139 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: my life. And uh and and that's how it came. 140 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean, John, I think has spent a lifetime really 141 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: truly as you described, a student, a student of music 142 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: and uh and it's one of the reasons why it's 143 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: so inspiring to get that, to write with him and 144 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: to work with him. 145 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: So tell me how that collaboration came about and uh 146 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: and what it was like, you know, uh working with him? 147 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know. H So we for a brief 148 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: point in time, were managed by the same fellaw uh, 149 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: a guy named Brian Doyle out of New York. And Uh, 150 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: I was I had just signed up to work with Brian, 151 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: and I was just as uh as is still the case, 152 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: always always writing, always writing songs, always writing songs, and 153 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: uh and I would share these songs. I would just 154 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: keep sending me songs, uh to Brian and our management 155 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: team and uh. And Brian is you know. At one 156 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: point I was like, you know what, Adam, I got 157 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: to connect you. You and John are gonna, I think 158 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: your brothers and you just don't know it yet. And 159 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: uh and he sent John h he sent John some 160 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: of my demos that I'd been sending him and uh 161 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: and John said, yeah, I like I like this music. 162 00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: Why don't we Why don't we bring him down to 163 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Nashville medism writing and uh and so, uh, you know, 164 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: Brian told me that. I said, uh, yeah, I will 165 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: do you that. I remember going down he met. I 166 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: had to meet him at this studio called Addiction Sound. 167 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it still exists, but it was a 168 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: private studio owned by Jonathan Kane Journey and uh and 169 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: it was like this beautiful. It was like compared to 170 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: any studio I've ever been in. It was like a 171 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: palace to me, right, Like it was just gorgeous. And 172 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: the whole upstairs was this private apartment with these like 173 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: practice rooms and spaces. And I remember them. I remember 174 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: them meeting me at the door and taking my guitar 175 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: and leading me upstairs and John sitting, you know in 176 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: one of these rooms. I was I was buzz I 177 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: was so nervous. I mean, I'm a guy that was 178 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, I spent my career playing playing bars, you know, 179 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: and I was just building this band community, one person 180 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: at a time, and it's been an inspiring, amazing journey. 181 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: But here I am meeting this rock and roll hall 182 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: of paymer to write songs. And you know, he stood 183 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: up right away and he said, Adam's great to meet you. 184 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: What have you been working on? We sat down that day, 185 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: we wrote that afternoon, we wrote two songs. And the 186 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: next day he was so excited. He's like, man, this 187 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: is great. I'm gonna get some session guys together. Let's 188 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: do some recording tomorrow. And the next day I met 189 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: him downstairs in the same studio and these Nashville session players, 190 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: some of the best around were there, and we just 191 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: we took you know, we took a couple of the 192 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: songs we've been working on, and we just recorded right 193 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: down the spot. It was one other cooler experiences I've 194 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: ever had as a musician. And in fact, that very 195 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: first song that we wrote is called All I Am, 196 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: and John just uh just recorded and produced his own 197 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: version of that song that he released on his latest album. 198 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm super super honored by that. 199 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: And the album is great, you know the great The 200 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: album is great. I love his treatment of John Prime, 201 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: you know, which. 202 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: He is so special and and and and how cool 203 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: is it, right Buzz that this pop icon in his 204 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: solo career decides I'm going to dig into roots. I'm 205 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: going to dig into the roots of the music that 206 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: made me famous. Right, And that's been his story since 207 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: the beginning of his right, his his own solo musical releases. 208 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: He ain't he ain't going for what Strenden, He's going 209 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: for what, you know, what, what inspired him first as 210 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: an artist and what created the art form that that 211 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: made made his success. 212 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: So who else is on the wish list to collaborate with? 213 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean, I mean there's so many, 214 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: I guess you know, uh you know, I mean, I 215 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: mean it's this. Is this like is this a realistic 216 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: wish list? Or is this like an edition? Or is 217 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: this like uh you know? Because right, I would be 218 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: able to be able to die happy if I could 219 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: get the room and write a song with Bruce Right 220 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: or paulse Simon, right, is I mean I would be 221 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: too intimidated probably to write songs with Paul Simon can 222 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: see using chords that I don't understand. But but Bruce 223 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: is a Bruce was a you know, he's he started 224 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: out as a bar guy like I did. And uh 225 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: and uh and you know, but I mean these days there, 226 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's so many great artists out there, and uh, 227 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: that didn't that inspired me? You know, I listen, you 228 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: had you had one of the Wood Brothers on the 229 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: other day. I love listening to those I love listening 230 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: to those guys. I love their son. I love to 231 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: write song. I mean, I'm basically I write songs. I 232 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: try to write songs with as many artists as I 233 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: can along the way, whether they're opening up for us 234 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: or we're opening up for them. Writing music with other 235 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: people isn't inspiring them and the song the song doesn't 236 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: always come out great, but I always feel like I 237 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: become a better writer. Fortunity. 238 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: That's awesome. Where did you learn this grassroots approach to 239 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: building an audience one by one? I'm fascinated by this. 240 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: I had Actually I haven't put the episode out yet, 241 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: but by the time this episode hits, it'll have been out. 242 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: I had Rebecca and Meghan Level from Lark and Poe 243 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: on and Lark and Poe has built a fan base 244 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: very similarly. I won almost where did you think of 245 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: and learn that technique? Because I think it's fascinating. 246 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: You act like it was intentional buzz. I mean, honestly, right, 247 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: I was always I was a guy that right that that. 248 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: I was a guy that was right that that never 249 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: had a record. I never had somebody with big music 250 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: connections point their finger at me and say, hey, you're 251 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: the one. I played in nasty bars because they were 252 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: the only places that could hire me for many many years. 253 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: Right that. I wasn't being hired to play concerts. I 254 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: was hired to keep people drinking and uh and it 255 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: was I don't regret that at all, because right, one 256 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: by one, and sometimes it was literally one person at 257 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: a time turning around and listening to or me and 258 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: my bandies and connecting with us and that journey because 259 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: it happened so slow, over time it became it became 260 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: deeply personal to me. I have the honor of knowing 261 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: this community of people. They're poem my music. I mean, 262 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: it's getting bigger and bigger. So now right like these days, 263 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: we will play shows and the vast majority of people 264 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: like I won't know, but I'll look out and I'll 265 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of faces I recognize. And every one 266 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: of those people we joke about this from the stage. 267 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: Every one of those people has an origin story with me. 268 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: None of it. None of those origin stories came from 269 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: the radio or a fancy right or a fancy soundtrack. 270 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: It came from one of their friends, usually dragging them 271 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: out and saying, hey, you got listening to these guys, 272 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: And it was. And most of their origin stories are 273 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: us playing in some weird, weird place a backyard or 274 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: a parking lot, or a charity event or something that 275 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: is non traditional. But it was out of necessity buzz 276 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: because we didn't have any other options. And and now 277 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: we now that we get to tour around the country, 278 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: and now that we are playing in inspiring places to 279 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: play music, inspiring stages and festivals. Is never lost. What 280 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: a magical gift that is that people want buy a ticket, 281 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: come and hear me play music. And it is uh 282 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: and it is an incredible thing. And we do a 283 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: lot of activism through music, and to that, the community 284 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: has really engaged with the band and with a ton 285 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: of different causes at any one of our shows, the 286 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: fan oftentimes have organized some kind of activism component, and 287 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: I think all of that, all of that story mushed together, 288 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: creates this connection, whether it's with their first time person 289 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: coming out to see us, or a person that sees 290 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: us fifty times a year, and there are people that 291 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: see us fifty times a year, and there becomes this 292 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: sense of community at our shows that certainly inspired me 293 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: every single time. And you know, like I said, but 294 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily by design. It's just it's just what 295 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: happened one show at a time over the years. 296 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: I think it's wonderful. And I want you to I 297 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: want you to brag a little bit about some of 298 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: the work and the good work that you're doing. I 299 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: know you were a guest with Lynn Hoffman on our 300 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 3: Panion podcast Music Save Me, But I want you to 301 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: brag a little bit about some of your successes and 302 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: great work that you've done for so many communities. 303 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: Oh Man, Well, thank you for giving me an opportunity 304 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: to talk about some of that work. I will I 305 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: will try to keep it somewhat brief, and I will 306 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: just mention the reason why this particular week is a 307 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: really exciting one. Two weeks ago. Three weeks ago, we 308 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: hosted our own festival for the fifteenth time. There's a 309 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: fifteenth annually we called the Ramble here in the Northeast, 310 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: and it is a festival that I started through a 311 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: nonprofit organization. I began a nonprofit organization called Rally Sound. 312 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: Every year, Rally Sound hosts this festival. It's essentially a briefest. 313 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Anyone can come to this festival. They can donate what 314 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: ever they want or whatever they can, and the festival 315 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: has a mission, and the mission is to put an 316 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: end veteran homelessness in the Northeast. There are some things 317 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: that are super unique about the festival, and that all 318 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: the artists that come out to the festival every year, 319 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: I invite them myself. They all donate their time in 320 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: their family. The festival is run by an army a volunteer, 321 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: just people like you, fans that have come together and 322 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: engaged and decided they want to be a part of this. 323 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: We had over two hundred volunteers running the Rambo this year. 324 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: And this tiny little grassroots festival that no one's ever 325 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: heard of before. This year, we just found out this 326 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: week we raised one hundred and fifty one thousand dollars 327 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: for our veterments. We work with an organization called the 328 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: New England Center and Home for Veterans and through them, 329 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: and while every case is different, on average, for every 330 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: thousand dollars we raise, they're able to help one of 331 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: our vets off the streets and in the safe and 332 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: dignified housing. So one hundred and fifty one veterans we help. 333 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: The homeless population for veterans in New England hover somewhere 334 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: between one thousand and fifteen hundred these days, and so 335 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: this underground little movement is impacting right a significant It's 336 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: having a significant impact on those numbers these days. It's 337 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: something that I am so so grateful that I get 338 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: to be just a little part of it. All it 339 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: is is a humbling thing to get to experience. 340 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: A congratulations, My God, that's amazing, that's so wonderful. 341 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I appreciate it. 342 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 3: In closing, Adam, I mean, in a time where there's 343 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: you know, everything is so crazy and divided, and there's 344 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: so much tension in the world and in the country, 345 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: how does it make you feel thinking about how you 346 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: your work, your community all in and around. Music is 347 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 3: such a unifying force in a divided time. How does 348 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 3: it make you feel? 349 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: Oh, man, I mean you're hitting on you're hidden on 350 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: the core, the hitting on the core of everything. With 351 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 1: that question, for me, I feel that I feel that 352 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: same thing, buzz. I think we all do. And and 353 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: it also know if you feel this too, But it 354 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: just feels like the vastness of the reach of the 355 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: loudest voices, it has away the twenty four hour news cycle, 356 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 1: the social media feeds. They have this way of making 357 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: me at least feel a little just as a person, 358 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: as a regular person, making me feel we see so 359 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: much of the worst of humanity shown to us every day, 360 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day. We can see it all 361 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: right there. It's boom, it's right there. It's hitting us 362 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: in the face every day that it's like getting pummeable 363 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: a little bit every single day. I think, you know, 364 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: at least it feels that way to me. And it's 365 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: not all bad, it's not a negative, but it's man, 366 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: it is hard to feel to feel impactful in this world. 367 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: But you know, I believe that the most important impact 368 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: that we can have is the kind of impact that 369 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: happens to one person at a time, and the kind 370 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: of impact that reminds us that there's more about us 371 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: that is the same, then it's different. And music has 372 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: always done that to me. It's always it's always communicated 373 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: the experience of being human in a way that right, 374 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: I can go to a show and I can feel this, 375 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: whatever I am feeling from a song, I can know 376 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: that everybody else or most people there are feeling it 377 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: on some level. The reminder that we're connected and uh, 378 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: and the fact that I get to I get to 379 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: be a small part of that process. I think it's 380 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: it's mine. It's my life's work and uh, and it's 381 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: uh and it's my life's honor to get to do it. 382 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: And so uh it feels to answer your question real simply, 383 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: it feels real good, buzz. It feels. It feels real 384 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: good to be doing what we're doing these days, even 385 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: as a even as an underground indie indie band. Uh. 386 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: Getting to throw these punches and impact people one person 387 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: at a time, it's it's a work. It's it's work 388 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: that fills me up. 389 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: Well. 390 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful to be able to talk to folks 391 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: like you, to meet new friends like you and to 392 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 3: you know, hopefully shine a little light on not only 393 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: your great music, but your great heart and soul. So 394 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: for all of that, we thank you. 395 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Buzz, thank you for wanting to spread these 396 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: stories out there. I think I think podcasts like this 397 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: to talk about real stuff with artists that are trying 398 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: to create things in the world. I think they're important 399 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: and I'm really glad you're out there. 400 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 3: Doing I'm stand thanks, Adam, appreciate it. 401 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, cheers. 402 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 403 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: Walk podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 404 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: and follow us so you never miss an episode. Taking 405 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: a Walk is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 406 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: and wherever you get your podcasts. 407 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: E