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Speaker 1: Bis Shrip's Unfiltered Episode twenty two. We are joined with

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Speaker 1: Isaac Zuoit my co host, and we have Eli Sussman

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Speaker 1: along here with us because we have a lot to

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Speaker 1: unpack today. First of all, Isaac, how are you? We

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Speaker 1: have a cool interview coming up with Troy Johnson. It

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Speaker 1: was a good time, so I'm excited for the listeners

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Speaker 1: to listen over to.

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Speaker 2: That doing swell. Is that the Eli Susman that was

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Speaker 2: mentioned on Swings and Misses. He's he's a pretty relevant guy.

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Speaker 3: I guess yeah, I got a name drop there.

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Speaker 4: Thanks as always for Craig and the time joining us

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Speaker 4: on the video side because no camera for Isaac, so

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Speaker 4: to make sure that people get a double dose of

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Speaker 4: smiling faces, Glad's be in front of the screen with

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Speaker 4: you guys on this one. And of course, as Kevin

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Speaker 4: just mentioned, interview with Troy Johnston is a consensus top

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Speaker 4: thirty Marlins prospect. It's probably like a tip three hitting

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Speaker 4: a pure hitter in the Marlins organization, and he is

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Speaker 4: about as hot. I can't even give enough praise for

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Speaker 4: who he is as a person and the way that

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Speaker 4: he was able to get to all the questions that

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Speaker 4: you guys had for him, So stay tuned for that

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Speaker 4: later in the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so pretty much. You know, we have some breaking

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Speaker 1: news actually right before we started filming this. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about Gary Denbo. We're going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Herald article that came out from Craig Mission. This is

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Speaker 1: a dedicated article to pod to Craig Mission. Then we're

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Speaker 1: going to get into some swings and Missions stuff that

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Speaker 1: he spoke about that caught her eye. But first or

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Speaker 1: he's still there placed on the il ten day il

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Speaker 1: We all know it's due to the back issues he's

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Speaker 1: been having. He's been having this for months. You could

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Speaker 1: really go back to that Milwaukee series at home where

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Speaker 1: he told us that he was having back issues, but

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Speaker 1: you know, he's been playing through them. He's been playing

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Speaker 1: a lot of DH. A lot a lot of DH

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Speaker 1: is what he's really been going at. And then Donnie

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Speaker 1: during the home stand again, it was that second game

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Speaker 1: against Colorado where he mentioned that hole hit Hilaria is

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Speaker 1: not one hundred percent, but he's still playing him out there,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I guess it got to the point

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Speaker 1: today in Washington where he just couldn't bear it anymore.

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Speaker 1: We are expecting a couple of roster moves today, Joey Wendell.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this first of all on July first, so

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Speaker 1: this will be coming out July second. We're expecting one

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Speaker 1: to come back out today. We're expecting a corresponding move

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Speaker 1: to Solaire. So Isaac, your initial reactions on Solaire going

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Speaker 1: on the I L and what type of roster moves

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Speaker 1: do you expect, because there are actually a couple options,

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Speaker 1: and you know we're talking about your are, but Urre

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Speaker 1: can't play left field, so it's a it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a weird situation there. He doesn't play left

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And you have Cooper and you have Agular,

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Speaker 2: those two sort of switching between dh you like you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: you have Wendell coming back you expect for Game one

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Speaker 2: of the National Series. So you know, what we're talking

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Speaker 2: about pre show was just you know, simply put Wendell

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Speaker 2: obviously left field in this case, and you have John

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Speaker 2: Burdi who's just been playing out of his mind. He'll

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Speaker 2: be the every day second basement while Jazz is on

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Speaker 5: Mike you Row at short. They could go that route.

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Speaker 2: They could also bring up, you know, another guy like

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Speaker 2: a Bladet, but I don't see them doing that quite yet.

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Speaker 2: Maybe post All Star break, but that is another option.

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Speaker 2: But the way I see it, I think that they're

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Speaker 2: play third every day. He'll be the corresponding move and

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Speaker 2: you'll have Brian Anderson play a lot of wet field,

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Speaker 2: you know. And Brian Anderson just let's just remember that

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Speaker 2: he was one of the hottest hitters on this team,

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Speaker 2: one of the most consistent hitters on this team prior

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Speaker 2: to his injury.

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Speaker 5: So I think that will play out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Isaac mentioned Billaday, this would have to be a

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Speaker 1: situation where we add him to the forty man elif

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Speaker 1: I'm correct. Is there still forty man spot open or

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Speaker 1: is that now officially gone? In What type of move

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Speaker 4: And this particular time, I think they're filled up again

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Speaker 4: at the moment, we were anticipating it to be opened

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Speaker 3: They could dfa Eric.

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Speaker 4: Gonzalez, who is on the roster at this time, as

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Speaker 4: him fill the soul their spot. I don't think that

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Speaker 4: I think that's just lazy, and that is like the

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Speaker 4: bare minimum that they could do. There's really no excuse

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Speaker 4: for holding down Gerar anymore. I mean, you mentioned something

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Speaker 4: but all these pieces move around. When you're taking away

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Speaker 4: at left field and sometimes at DH as well. When

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Speaker 4: so Lair's going out, that I should mention that the

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Speaker 4: And with those spots open, you can shift a VI

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Speaker 4: more than you would think the way that you can

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Speaker 4: shuffle them around to actually have more than nine playable

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Speaker 3: Be a liability.

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Speaker 4: There will be opportunities in the corner of olefield spots

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Speaker 4: There's a bunch of ways you could approach it. We

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Speaker 4: should mention Charles LeBlanc as well, because, aside from being

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Speaker 4: He plays more left field than and Carnacion does, not

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Speaker 4: thing I keep harping on is guys that have some

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Speaker 4: real playing time in case of a situation just like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also really quick just add I think one

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Speaker 2: Are you know with jazz Gun they really are locking

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Speaker 5: Another leftil Day would make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: You know, he can play the corner of field spots

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Speaker 2: he's been playing well enough to earn a promotion of

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Speaker 1: And not only that, at some point you have to

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Speaker 1: five draft. You know, I think he's eligible for that

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Speaker 1: which you at this point, you already know what the

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Speaker 1: good stuff. But Gary denbo out as it's player it's

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Speaker 1: VP of player development and scouting, if I'm correct, that

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Speaker 1: is the rule he took when Derek Jeter stepped in.

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Speaker 1: He was pan picked by Derek Jeter. He's a Yankee guy.

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Speaker 1: Just the other day he was let go or he

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Speaker 1: parted ways, whatever happened. But we'll get more, we'll do

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Speaker 1: more deeper analysis into the denbo era when it comes

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Speaker 1: to you know, the swings and missious portion of this.

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Speaker 1: But you know, just some guys that were that were

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Speaker 1: Max Meyer, Zach mccambley, DA's Fulton. Uh, he was a

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Speaker 1: great guy when it came to developing pitchers. That's something

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Speaker 1: we've noticed. You know, just some of the guys that

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Speaker 1: you know, he just couldn't develop hitters. That's something that's

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Speaker 1: the big trend we noticed Connor, Scott, jaj Bleday and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he you know, he was there for all

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Speaker 2: developing was you know, that's his job, and you can't

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Speaker 5: Job, unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: You know, no one's maybe aside from Nick Fortes in

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Speaker 2: That was them sort of saying, Okay, let's let's not

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Speaker 2: a high school heavy draft in twenty eighteen, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know what I see it. But obviously that plan

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Speaker 2: hasn't worked out at all. You have guys like Riley

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Speaker 5: You have CJ. Abrams already the big league.

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Speaker 2: So you can say that the draft strategy or any

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Speaker 2: of the development has really gone well at all. Unfortune obviously,

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Speaker 2: Marlins did make the postseason in twenty twenty. They were

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Speaker 2: give too much credit there. But unfortunately, just things did

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Speaker 2: not go well for Denbo in the Marlins and the

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Speaker 2: way it was discussed on swings and missions, you can

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Speaker 2: just see that, you know, not the most likable person

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Speaker 2: played into it as well.

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Speaker 1: So this is something that Craig did on his show,

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Speaker 1: and we'll do here too, the positives and negatives of

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Speaker 1: I want you to start with the positives. I mean,

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Speaker 3: He was put in a tough spot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Isaac just pretty much let's go with the

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Speaker 2: No, I think the negatives have been well documented, whether

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Speaker 1: So now let's go into the bigger question here, what

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Speaker 4: DJ is a very impressive person. Having spoken to him.

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Speaker 1: To the Craig Mischh Herald article. Just some quick takeaways.

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Speaker 1: The trade deadline is one that was mentioned on there.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we'll get into buyers and sellers later,

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Speaker 1: So let's get into the names that were mentioned. First

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Speaker 1: looking for relievers. So what would he Anthony Bass trade

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Speaker 1: look like and the possibilities of that especially, you know,

437
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Speaker 1: this is thinking that the Martins are sellers in.

438
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Speaker 4: The trade that I do think that Bess is their

439
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,919
Speaker 4: most valuable reliever trade asset that they have because of

440
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Speaker 4: his track record and because of what he's doing this year.

441
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Speaker 4: The peropherals kind of back up the performance too. It's

442
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 4: not f looky, he is missing more bets, he is

443
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 4: keeping the ball in the ballpark, which was kind of

444
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 4: an issue last year, inopportunity times, allowing home runs. He's

445
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 4: just been terrific. He's been even better lately than he

446
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 4: was at the start of the year, Like he is

447
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 4: getting stronger, and that is the thing that dictates trade

448
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 4: value a lot. It's just recent performance as well, not

449
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 4: even the current season, but basically the month of July

450
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 4: is a bit long audition for almost every single reliever

451
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 4: on a non winning team. That goes so much into

452
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 4: what their value is and what the potential fits there are,

453
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Speaker 4: so he could get them a decent amount by reliever standards.

454
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Speaker 4: I don't think the Nick Anderson trade is necessarily a

455
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Speaker 4: fair comp to make. With Anderson, his strikeout rate was

456
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Speaker 4: off the charts in a way that even Basses isn't,

457
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Speaker 4: and he had so many more years of control at

458
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Speaker 4: the lowest possible salary, whereas Bass is affordable but not

459
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Speaker 4: quite to the same caliber. So you're not going to

460
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Speaker 4: get another Hait Sustanchez.

461
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Speaker 3: I don't think.

462
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Speaker 4: I don't see a route towards necessarily getting that done

463
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Speaker 4: to somebody that could be real reliable, every day outfielder.

464
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Speaker 4: I think you at the set your sites a little

465
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Speaker 4: bit lower, but it could be multiple prospects that are

466
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 4: inside your top thirty that still need another year or

467
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 4: two to develop.

468
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Speaker 3: Like a there's.

469
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Speaker 4: Substantial packages that would really improve the pharmac system in

470
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Speaker 4: a meaningful way for sure, And I think really the

471
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Speaker 4: sexier idea is making packages that involve one reliever in

472
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Speaker 4: maybe one of these veteran bats on the Marlins that.

473
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Speaker 3: Would feel doesn't really fit moving forward.

474
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Speaker 4: I think that's really the direction that I think the

475
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Speaker 4: Marlins themselves would probably look into as well. It's trying

476
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Speaker 4: to package multiple veterans that they feel they can replace

477
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 4: internally and in doing so, getting somebody really interesting in return.

478
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Speaker 4: That's what I have my mind on. That's usually more

479
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 4: difficult to pull off than you hope for, it's still

480
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 4: a possibility. And so Bass, he's really put himself in

481
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Speaker 4: this position and it's unfortunate for him. Always done is

482
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 4: do his job extremely well, and yet that makes him,

483
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Speaker 4: I would say, pretty likely to change teams within the

484
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Speaker 4: next month.

485
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Speaker 2: My mouth sorry, just you know, package, I was gonna say,

486
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Speaker 2: on a package of Kurts and Bass. You know, for

487
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Speaker 2: any team that has there's a bullpin shortage already in

488
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: the lefty that would you'd think that could command a

489
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Speaker 2: pretty decent prospect in return. But that's just pure speculation.

490
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Speaker 2: This is obviously they're gonna trade both of them in

491
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Speaker 2: the same trade. That would mean Miami is completely pumping

492
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Speaker 2: on this season, of course.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. And I'll plug in nose pod. I think

494
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Speaker 1: it's called water Relief and that last week, so tune

495
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Speaker 1: into that before he possibly gets traded. So the Oscar as.

496
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Speaker 4: You mentioned that, the next guest lined up for that

497
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Speaker 4: happens to be Stephen Oker, so we should be able

498
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Speaker 4: to get that done before for the possible deal with

499
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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to that one that should be coming

500
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Speaker 4: out perhaps next Thursday, but we'll have a more exact

501
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Speaker 4: date once that gets recorded.

502
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Speaker 3: Looking forward to it.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the last player mentioned in that article was Aguilar.

504
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, his production just hasn't been there to

505
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: what many expected, and like the twenty twenty one production

506
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Speaker 1: just didn't go on to twenty twenty two. He had

507
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Speaker 1: moments where he looked like he was getting it going,

508
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: but just did down in production. And in the Swings

509
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: and Missions podcast it was mentioned that Aguilar is someone

510
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Speaker 1: who really needs to get it going if they're looking

511
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Speaker 1: to get some type of value out of him. What

512
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Speaker 1: type of value could the Martins get out of a

513
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 1: guy like Haes who's Aguilar for now? You know, if

514
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: it made more sense in twenty twenty one when he

515
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: worked trying to trade him or this team was selling

516
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: to trade him to an American League team, because that

517
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Speaker 1: was DH. He could provide these spots in the DH

518
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Speaker 1: in first space, he gives you decent defense at most,

519
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: he has some plays there here and there, but the

520
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: DH is really where it looked. So now that there's

521
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Speaker 1: DH in both sides, his value kind of dips a

522
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Speaker 1: little bit, although there's still teams that may want a

523
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Speaker 1: power back DH, so Eli, you know what type of

524
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Speaker 1: value could Aguilar bring? Bearing in mind that there's now

525
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: a DH in the NL and the AL.

526
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Speaker 4: That's really the only saving grace here is that there's

527
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Speaker 4: a universal DH and there are more potential fits. But

528
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 4: he's just not a very impactful player right now. He's

529
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: always been had these limitations both defensively and as a

530
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 4: base runner that should not be undersold, just how slow

531
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Speaker 4: he is and how much of it. That's a real

532
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: dent in what he can contribute as a player, respectfully

533
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Speaker 4: to Aguilar. Last year he was in such good groove

534
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 4: in terms of delivering in run scoring situations. We know

535
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Speaker 4: that he was leading the National League in RBIs for

536
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Speaker 4: a big chunk of the year and hasn't been quite

537
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 4: the same magic this year. His raw power is just

538
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 4: like not on the same level as a lot of

539
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 4: other first baysmen in DH out there. The biggest factor

540
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Speaker 4: influencing his value is his salary. He is earning seven

541
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Speaker 4: and a half million this year. He is a mutual

542
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 4: option for next year, but those are rarely picked up anyway,

543
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Speaker 4: So it's just about being basically a rental for whoever

544
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Speaker 4: gets him as a pending free agent, and I think

545
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Speaker 4: to get even in a best case scenario, even if

546
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 4: he lights it up in July, I think the Marvels

547
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 4: would have to pay down some of his salary to

548
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Speaker 4: make him valuable to another team, because I don't think

549
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 4: there are contending teams that see him as an everyday

550
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 4: player the way that the Marlins have been using him.

551
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 4: I've been surprised that the Marlins themselves have been sticking

552
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: with him as an everyday player themselves, even right now,

553
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 4: no matter, because he's just not quite that's not really

554
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: what he is. That he's being miscast and putting in

555
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 4: putting being put into a position that doesn't quite belong

556
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 4: in at the moment. So I have really low expectations

557
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 4: for what they would get in return. But I think

558
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 4: for everybody's case, you just hope he performs well because

559
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 4: right now they're giving him a whole lot of at bats,

560
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 4: and that's I don't think his history at this point

561
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 4: is going to help him that much. It's going to

562
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 4: be about what he's doing lately, and lately just has

563
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 4: has been pretty mediocre this season.

564
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I guess now it's a good time to

565
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: move into the podcast time. What they were talking about

566
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: on the pod it was more or less a summary

567
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: of their Herald of the Herald article, but went into

568
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: a lot more and there's actually a lot of pointers.

569
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Speaker 1: I know they mentioned John Birdy as a possible you know,

570
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Speaker 1: I think Jeremy mentioned that the miss MISSI immediately said

571
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Speaker 1: he he gets the sense that Birdie will not be traded,

572
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: but he does get the sense in the offseason one

573
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: of the many infielders that they have will get traded.

574
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: So you know, there's Maggie, there's Joey Wendell, Jazz who's

575
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: not getting traded. John Birdie is also in. They're Brian Anderson,

576
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: so Isaac, you know, out of all these guys, who

577
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: looks like the odd man out? I mean, could it

578
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: be Brian Anderson? Could be maybe a Joey Wendell. I mean,

579
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Speaker 1: I know Craig mentioned prior to the season starting that

580
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: they may be even looking to trade Joey Wendell without

581
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: him even playing a single game in a Marlins uniform.

582
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Speaker 1: That's how it looked like at one point. But what

583
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on kind of that portion of the

584
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: podcast and what he was mentioning there.

585
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first of all, a very happy birthday to

586
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Speaker 2: haesiuz Aguie Laar. You know, he shares a pretty cool

587
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: birthday himself. It was yesterday, June thirtieth. And yeah, he

588
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: creditated an interesting point regarding the infield, because they are

589
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: They're just congested everywhere, you know, in the infield, and

590
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: then at first base they're congested, and the miners and

591
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: in the majors and Miguel Rojas. I think they're just

592
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: gonna keeprought with him one because I don't see a

593
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: replacement shortstop.

594
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: It's just a one year deal.

595
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 6: To keep that in mind, He's also would.

596
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: Do five million dollars next year, so he's gonna be

597
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: an expensive player. So I'm not saying this is the

598
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: correct move or you know, the one that I would

599
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: agree with, but I think that Brian Anderson would be

600
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: the one.

601
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Speaker 5: That they would move on from. They just really haven't sort.

602
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: Of, you know, given him any safety like saying like, oh, hey,

603
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: we want him in the future.

604
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 5: They really haven't gone out.

605
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: They haven't approached him about anything, which obviously right with

606
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: his injuries and just not the many at bats going forward,

607
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: he hasn't been given that opportunity yet, But I think

608
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: I love you know, the ad miser hats the situation

609
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: wiwise right now it looks like the Marlins fleeced the Rays.

610
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 5: Maybe that doesn't happen too often. But yeah, you have Wendo,

611
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 5: You're gonna have me yet short for.

612
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: The time being, and you know you have Jazz and

613
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: John Berry. I think, unfortunately, the one that would be

614
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: expendable would be Brian Anderson. And even though I think

615
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: he has the highest floor of an offensive player maybe

616
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: him and Wendell of anyone that in that in field.

617
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 5: So it'd be tough. It'd be a tough loss because

618
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 5: I think he's a really good player.

619
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll pretty much go to the same question that

620
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: Eli here. I mean, do you have a different answer

621
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: or is it also Brian Anderson for you?

622
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 4: My bold prediction on your show before the season was

623
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: that Brian Anderson during the season, and I think that's

624
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 4: still possibility. It's the emphasis is about just the lack

625
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: of team control on these guys and escalating salaries where

626
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 4: unless you feel they're really special combination, like an elite combination,

627
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: I don't think it makes sense to write it out

628
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: with all them for next year and wait until they

629
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: have no trade value left. So it leads to those

630
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: tough decisions, and really the only way that you feel

631
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: good about the decision is if either you internally or

632
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: somehow you make a different trade that gets you some

633
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: sort of elite player at shortstop which they haven't been

634
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 4: able to get, and simply Jazz getting back healthy at

635
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: second base would help a lot. So naturally, it's Wendell

636
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: and Brian Anderson being in this situation where they're free

637
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: agents after next year, and they both do a significant

638
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: amount of money, as versatile as they are, as much

639
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 4: as they help in a variety of other ways, I

640
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: think long term, not really in the near term future,

641
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: you can see why they may potentially be swapped for

642
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: players that fit in a little bit better. Yeah, in

643
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: terms of which one of those is absolutely the most

644
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: likely to go, Yeah, They've had so much of an

645
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: opportunity to extend Brian Anderson's contract and haven't made substantial

646
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 4: progress to it. I think you just have to point

647
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: to that, so the lack of action they've made there

648
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: and assume that they're not really all that high on

649
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: him moving forward, and that he would be the one

650
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: potentially that is out the door, and of course he

651
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: being one of the few guys still that was from

652
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: the Laura era that made his debut even before this

653
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Speaker 4: new ownership variety doesn't have as many allies within this

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Speaker 4: organization as some of the more recent acquisitions do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on board with both of you here. I

656
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Speaker 1: think Brian Anderson unfortunately as young man now because he's

657
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Speaker 1: a cool guy and he really one of the big

658
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Speaker 1: big blocks of this build rebuild. Towards the start one

659
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Speaker 1: he was the one pretty much playing. He was the

660
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Speaker 1: best player in twenty nineteen. He had an amazing year

661
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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, and injuries pretty much just screwed him

662
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Speaker 1: over year by year. In twenty twenty he got screwed

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Speaker 1: with COVID. I'm pretty sure he was one of the

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Speaker 1: players with COVID, and then twenty twenty one he also

665
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Speaker 1: got screwed with injuries.

666
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Speaker 6: Barely played.

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Speaker 1: Now this year he just came back from an injury.

668
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Speaker 1: So it sucks to see, but we'll move on here.

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Speaker 1: Craig Mish also mentioned some minor leaguers that can be

670
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Speaker 1: making their debut in the second half of the season.

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Speaker 1: This was kind of when he was mentioning Bass, he

672
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Speaker 1: mentioned Josh Simpson and Injury Nardi. These are guys that

673
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Speaker 1: are good buddy, Alex Carter Fish on the Farm has

674
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Speaker 1: been raving about Josh Simpson has been having himself a

675
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Speaker 1: season three point five to three ERA three thirty five

676
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Speaker 1: point two innings pitched, sixty two strikeouts, one point zero

677
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Speaker 1: nine to three whip and then Injury Nardi two two

678
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Speaker 1: three ERA thirty six point one inning pitches pitched, fifty

679
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Speaker 1: four strikeouts, zero point nine zero eight whip. These are

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Speaker 1: guys who also are Rule five eligible. So Eli, I mean,

681
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Speaker 1: are these some guys that definitely need to be up

682
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Speaker 1: soon or would you more expect towards the second half

683
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Speaker 1: of the season, just like Craig has been expecting for.

684
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Speaker 3: People watching on YouTube.

685
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Speaker 4: The previous highlight package was Jeff Simpson, and this one

686
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Speaker 4: right now is Andrew Nardi. Nardi's with Triple A Jacksonville,

687
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Speaker 4: and Simpson this year has been with Double A Pensacola.

688
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Speaker 4: They're they're both good prospects, both intriguing prospects. I wouldn't

689
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Speaker 4: say that they're slam dunk, high leverage relievers in the

690
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Speaker 4: big leagues right now. I don't see a huge rush

691
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Speaker 4: to get them up before, like right after the deadline,

692
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Speaker 4: or even before the deadline.

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Speaker 3: So I like them.

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Speaker 4: I would I wouldn't say they're the Marlins had what

695
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Speaker 4: was kind of the ideal relief pitching prospect a few

696
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Speaker 4: years ago in alex Vesia, and I don't see either

697
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Speaker 4: of these guys being quite on that level of dominance

698
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Speaker 4: overall and setting the expectations as high. But they're worth

699
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Speaker 4: keeping an eye on. As you mentioned, Rule five draft eligible,

700
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Speaker 4: so they're going to be make a decision to be

701
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Speaker 4: on the forty man roster by the end of the year.

702
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a slam dunk that they are, though,

703
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Speaker 4: if they're just relief only type of players. We've covered,

704
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Speaker 4: I think, even on your pod and on various platforms,

705
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Speaker 4: all the different prospects in this organization that are going

706
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Speaker 4: to be Rule five draft eligible, including a lot of

707
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Speaker 4: everyday players and potential starting pitchers, those guys get priority

708
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 4: over relievers because of relievers just being more difficult to project,

709
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Speaker 4: more inconsistent. I like them, and I think it's worth

710
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Speaker 4: bringing up that they should be near the front of

711
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Speaker 4: the line if and when some of these key relievers

712
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Speaker 4: on the current major league roster get traded. I wouldn't

713
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Speaker 4: say that they are a huge influence on what the

714
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Speaker 4: Marlin should be doing right now, that they need to

715
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Speaker 4: make the most appropriate decisions without necessarily feeling that these

716
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Speaker 4: internal options are going to solve what's been holding back

717
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Speaker 4: this team at various points this season.

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Speaker 1: But I want to go back to the Gary Denbo

719
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Speaker 1: stuff here because there's some stuff to take away from

720
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Speaker 1: that as well. You know, this was the quote, the

721
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Speaker 1: big quote that was even mention on fish Stripes that

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Speaker 1: it was the beginning of the end for Gary Denbo.

723
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Speaker 1: That was when Mike Hill was let go. Eli, did

724
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Speaker 1: you see it as that the minute Mike Hill was

725
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Speaker 1: like go, that this was kind of the end for

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Speaker 1: Gary Denbo. And I guess we all expected Gary Dunbo

727
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Speaker 1: to especially go when Derek Jeter was you know, when

728
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Speaker 1: Derek Jeter left the team and all that stuff.

729
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Speaker 4: Well, I was not a fan of them letting Mike

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Speaker 4: Hill go. I thought it made a lot of sense

731
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Speaker 4: to bring in Kim Ang to work in collaboration with

732
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Speaker 4: Michael Hill, and that they didn't need to be a

733
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Speaker 4: one or the other situation. They made their choice, and

734
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Speaker 4: the question was exactly how Kim Ang would mesh with

735
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Speaker 4: these other executives that she was brought in to work with.

736
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Speaker 4: They didn't necessarily give her a huge opening to build

737
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Speaker 4: her own front office. It was working with a lot

738
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Speaker 4: of the other familiar faces who stayed behind because, aside

739
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Speaker 4: from Hill, a lot of the other influential people that

740
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Speaker 4: were part of the decision making process the first three

741
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Speaker 4: years of the rebuilt stayed around to work under Kim

742
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Speaker 4: and I didn't have great insight into what direct that

743
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Speaker 4: would go. And now we find out in hindsight, at

744
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: least in Gary Denbo's case, that relationship was not as

745
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Speaker 4: functional as they needed to be in order to make

746
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Speaker 4: all the right decisions and to work efficiently and get

747
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Speaker 4: the most that they could out of this organization. So

748
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Speaker 4: looking back on it, that was in the time, it

749
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Speaker 4: felt like a pretty significant moment, and as the years

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Speaker 4: go on it does seem of course that led to

751
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: this inevitable change. And of course the final nail in

752
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Speaker 4: the coffin was Derek Cheater leaving four months ago. Was

753
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Speaker 4: expected at that point that Denbo would be out and

754
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Speaker 4: still wait to see exactly what other Jeter people eventually

755
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Speaker 4: go out the door as well, because he snuck that

756
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Speaker 4: news on people shortly before the start of the season.

757
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Speaker 4: Most of them stuck around, having actual jobs with the

758
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 4: team and having certain salaries. They weren't going to walk

759
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: away on principle just because they're big geter fanboys.

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Speaker 3: The bigger test is how many of.

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Speaker 4: Them stay for twenty twenty three, And we'll find out

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Speaker 4: about that in just a few months, I imagine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And something interesting also mentioned was that it said

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Speaker 1: that Gary denbo looked like he had absolutely no impact

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Speaker 1: from the last six eighty months on moves made. This

766
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: was all Kim Mang. So what type of moves? Well,

767
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Speaker 1: we look back before Kim Man. You know how satisfied

768
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Speaker 1: Isaac were you with the trades that he had made

769
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Speaker 1: and all these moves, because some of them did hit.

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Speaker 1: You know, that Starlind Marte trade was good. The jas

771
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Speaker 1: Chishom trade, I don't know how much of that was him,

772
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Speaker 1: but that was another good trade. So now you look

773
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Speaker 1: at Kim Man, what she's been doing, these trades that

774
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Speaker 1: she's been making. On the signings, you know that's still

775
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Speaker 1: layer the AVI signing that looked like it was all her.

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Speaker 1: Is what we're all hearing that you know, Kim Mang's

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Speaker 1: been the one in charge of everything. But how satisfied

778
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Speaker 1: were you, you know? Or unsatisfied were you with all everything?

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Speaker 2: I just told you, well, you like correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong. But I don't think den Bo, you know,

781
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: was too much in charge about the trades.

782
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Speaker 5: Maybe he was.

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Speaker 1: I think they said he was.

784
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: We're never gonna know precisely for sure. I would say

785
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 4: that the industry expectations that he was involved in that

786
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 4: process as well. The question is whether he was really

787
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Speaker 4: the shadowed inneral manager or if it was something less

788
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: than that. So it wouldn't seem responsible to put any

789
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 4: of those transactions all on Denvo one way or another.

790
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Speaker 4: As we covered before, his bigger role was in remaking

791
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: what it meant to be a Marlins minor leaguer and

792
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: redesigning everything involved with that process, and bringing in a

793
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Speaker 4: lot of the coaches to at the minor league levels

794
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 4: and determining what values that Marlins would have developing players

795
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Speaker 4: and changing it. From that standpoint, I don't want to

796
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 4: get too into those transactions. We know there's a lot

797
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 4: of hit or miss. The biggest hit of all was

798
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Speaker 4: at the start of the rebuilder acquiring Sandy in that

799
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Speaker 4: trade from the Cardinals, and we know on the low

800
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Speaker 4: ends some of the very forgettable deals as well, there

801
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: was a lot on the line and they misfired. So

802
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: I think he added all up. And it's not that

803
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: the team was exceptionally lucky or unlucky, or good or

804
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 4: bad in those deals. A lot of it just comes

805
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 4: back to the fact that they have a tight budget

806
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 4: at the highest level when it comes ownership, and it

807
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 4: just puts a lot of pressure to get these moves right.

808
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 4: And their organizations historically like the Rays that do nail

809
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 4: these at a much higher success rate than everybody else.

810
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: And for teams like the Marlins, they just find themselves

811
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 4: in these situations where they weren't able to make all

812
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 4: the pieces fit together.

813
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: To answer one question that I know for a fact

814
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Speaker 2: that Gary Dendo had a big, big role in was

815
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: the first draft under this regime twenty eighteen. Connor Scott

816
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: was basically a hand picked selection by Denvo. I, like

817
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: you like mentioned, I'm not sure how involved Philik was

818
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: at that point, but I do know that this was

819
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Speaker 2: Gary Denbo's player. This was Gary Denbo's choice, and you

820
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: know there was some there were some nice names on

821
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: the board when he was taking Logan Gilbert was taken

822
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 2: right after him first in Cassas got drafted twenty six.

823
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: I know, our great friend man on second Joe Ersarro

824
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: was a big advocate for that selection, American heritage draftee

825
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: he and he you know, was taken later on by

826
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: the Boston Red Sox. And so I think that's a

827
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Speaker 2: there you could sort of say, hey, Okay.

828
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 5: Denmoll had a big part in that.

829
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Speaker 2: Four years later Conna Scott gets traded and he's not

830
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: exactly lighting the world on fire. So you have to

831
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Speaker 2: you know, when you're like Eli mentioned, when you're a

832
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: very limited team fiscally at the major league level, you

833
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 2: really have to hit on these draft picks, and they haven't.

834
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Speaker 2: So I think that's a situation where we can be

835
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: unsatisfied with Denbo's moves.

836
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: Well, we could say they haven't hit on the hitting side.

837
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: On the pitching side, it looks like they've true.

838
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: They haven't yet, you know, has made it to the

839
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: major league yet. We'll have to write Mike Smeier obviously

840
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: looks like a good one, but you know, we have

841
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: no idea.

842
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is right where we will end it.

843
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Speaker 1: This was episode twenty two. The Troy Johnson Interview will

844
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: be rolling right after this. So this week I guess

845
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: we have a couple of fish strip slaves Angels, and

846
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: then we have the Mets. No Jeopardy is coming up.

847
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: We have the Noah's Pod. What a relief coming up

848
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: with Stephen Okert. That'll be episode number two and from

849
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Speaker 1: Isaac from Elin myself, thank you guys for watching Peace Out,

850
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Go Fish and hopefully you enjoyed the Troy Johnston Interview.

851
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: Troy Johnston of the Pensacola Blue Wall, Who's the Double,

852
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: a affiliate of the Miami Ones that just recently clinched

853
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: a playoff spot. Troy the season is having one of

854
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: his best seasons of his career. Two ninety six batting average,

855
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: three fifty six OBP four fifty nine, slugging eight fifteen ops,

856
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: eight homes, one RBIs, seventy one hits.

857
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Speaker 7: And the pitch I swing in a drive into deep

858
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 7: right center field. It is back and unbelievable. Troy Johnston

859
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 7: his second homer of the game. It ties us up

860
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 7: here in the bottom of the ninth. Troy Johnston is

861
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 7: on another planet right now.

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00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: Troy thank you for coming on the show. It's an

863
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: honor to have you today.

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00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 6: Man, thank you very much. Excited to be here.

865
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just let's get right into it. Man, your thoughts

866
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: on you know, this Double A season so far for

867
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: you as as an individual one as a team itself.

868
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Speaker 3: How has that been for you?

869
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 8: Well, being at the Double A level, It's definitely been,

870
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 8: you know, a challenge at the beginning, kind of getting

871
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 8: used to it.

872
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 6: Definitely interesting.

873
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 8: My first real season playing in Florida, so it's a

874
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 8: little bit different.

875
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 6: But other than that.

876
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 8: The team atmosphere when I walk into the clubhouse is

877
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 8: absolutely fantastic. There's some fantastic guys that make it just

878
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 8: a real pleasure and a really fun time to play

879
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 8: here in Penn School.

880
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. The next thing I want to ask you was

881
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: your time at Gonzaga. You spent a couple of years there,

882
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: so how was that you know, just a little bit

883
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: on gun Zaga.

884
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 8: Gonzega was by far the best fit for me out

885
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 8: of every school that I visited. I'm definitely a more

886
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 8: down to earth, I feel like a small school kind

887
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 8: of guy, and that just fit my fit, my uh,

888
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 8: you know, repertoire, my character a little bit better.

889
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of people don't actually know there's

890
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 6: a baseball team at Gonzaga.

891
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 8: They always see, you know, the basketball players and all

892
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 8: that kind of stuff, And I don't know, you saw

893
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 8: Chet Holmgreen go what number two?

894
00:40:59,560 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 6: Overall?

895
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, but yeah, being there and you know, being in Spokane.

896
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 8: Actually my grandparents lived a couple of blocks down from

897
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 8: the campus, so I pretty much grew up around around

898
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 8: Spokane and around Gonzaga my whole life.

899
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 6: It's just pretty much a match pain and has for

900
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 6: me to go to john Zaga.

901
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 8: But you know, it was an absolutely fantastic time learned

902
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 8: when I needed to, got my degree and met some

903
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 8: great people along the way.

904
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 5: That's awesome.

905
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask you, so, if you know

906
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: you're draft in twenty nineteen college bat coming out, you know,

907
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: coming too the draft, what was your you and your

908
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: family's reaction and you know, funny I got drafted a

909
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: seventeenth round. To sort of you and your family's reaction

910
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: to getting the news and how did you find out?

911
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 6: Well, for me, I actually didn't find out from the

912
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 6: Marlins right away.

913
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 8: I was I didn't think I was going to go

914
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 8: in the first two days, just because I was hurt

915
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 8: my sophomore year and then kind of a breakout junior year.

916
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 6: But that last uh, that last third day, I got.

917
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 8: A text from one of my players' Casey, like Amina,

918
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 8: who's with the twins right now? It's like, hey, congrats,

919
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 8: So I'm being drafted, And I said who did I

920
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 8: get drafted by? So I didn't even hear anything yet,

921
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 8: and so but he was like, oh, the Marlins. And

922
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 8: instantly as that text coming in, I got a call

923
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 8: from Scott Fairbanks and you know, telling me that I

924
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 8: was going to be a Marlin and all that fun stuff.

925
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 8: But my parents were super excited. They're they're both teachers

926
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 8: and my my parents are my biggest fans, and so

927
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 8: they were just so excited, and you know, I was

928
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 8: blessed to be drafted into such a good organization. But

929
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 8: you know, we were we were a little bit not

930
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 8: sure what was going on yet, because of course, you know,

931
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 8: you hear stories of people that get drafted and what's

932
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 8: the next step and what's going on. But for us,

933
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 8: you know, we just kind of took it one day

934
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 8: at a time and you know, try to learn them.

935
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: Lo there we go, with baseball being a summer sport.

936
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: Have your parents been able to come out and watch

937
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 2: you play a good amount or it's.

938
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 8: Actually funny, they're actually here right now watching they're they're

939
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 8: coming in their vacation.

940
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 6: You know, kind of sucks for him. It's raining the

941
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 6: whole time here in Pennsacola.

942
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 8: I keep talking about how great the beaches and you know,

943
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 8: the atmosphere, but it's kind of rain and whatnot.

944
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 6: But no, my parents, they they usually come once or

945
00:42:59,400 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 6: twice a year.

946
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 8: You know, I am from the state of Washington, so

947
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 8: coming all the way across the country, it's a little

948
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 8: bit of a long travel. But yeah, my parents they come.

949
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 8: They watched just about every game, follow follow fish stripes

950
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 8: on Twitter. They know all everything that's going on there

951
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 8: and so but yeah, they you know, they get they

952
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 8: get to come out when they were able to.

953
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 6: That's awesome.

954
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 5: That's awesome. I guess.

955
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: Just so, this is your third year of professional baseball,

956
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: is there any sort of you know, memory, whether it's

957
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: your you know, professional debut, or just what memory of

958
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: moment has.

959
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 5: Really set out to you so far in your in

960
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 5: your three season.

961
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: I know twenty twenty was was missed unfortunately, but you know,

962
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: just in your three seasons, what has really been a

963
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: memorable moment for you?

964
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 8: I think I think the biggest memorable moment for me

965
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 8: was actually when I got that call from Jeff de

966
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 8: Groat when I was going to the Arizona Fall League,

967
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 8: because that was one of my big goals for myself.

968
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 6: Was I really wanted to plan that.

969
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 8: I've I've heard so many good things about it and

970
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 8: there's how much fun it was.

971
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 6: And when I got that.

972
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 8: Call, I was like, I was shaky, and I was like, oh,

973
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 8: this is so exciting, Like I you know, it was

974
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 8: one of my goals and I met it a lot

975
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 8: earlier than I thought I was going too. But it

976
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 8: was just, you know, that was that was one of

977
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 8: the points in my career where was I was like,

978
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 8: you know this, you know, I kind of am excited

979
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 8: about this and looking forward and having that opportunity.

980
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to ask you, you've, you know,

981
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: these past couple of weeks, you've been in left field,

982
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: So how has that changed been for you? And you know,

983
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: how did that come to be going from first base

984
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: the left field.

985
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 8: So if you guys remember at the start of my

986
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 8: career in twenty nineteen, I actually was drafted as an outfielder,

987
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 8: and so I played pretty much right in left field

988
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 8: that whole first season, didn't play first base at all.

989
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 8: And then in twenty twenty one it came over and

990
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 8: they pretty much handed me at first base club and

991
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 8: said here you go, we're going to make you a

992
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 8: first baseman. And so played all a first base in

993
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 8: twenty twenty one and now they're kind of like, well,

994
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 8: now that you prove that you play first base a

995
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 8: little bit, now we're going to put you back in

996
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 8: the outfield for a little bit, kind of see how

997
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 8: you do and all that kind of stuff. But the

998
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 8: transition has been fairly easy. It's a little bit interesting

999
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 8: getting the angles and everything right if you're.

1000
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 6: Not playing for so long.

1001
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 8: But I did get a little bit of a taste

1002
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 8: of it this fall and definitely in the spring, just

1003
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 8: taking some reps here and there. But you know, they

1004
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 8: got a plan for me, and I'm gonna, you know,

1005
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 8: fit wherever I fit, wherever I go.

1006
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and my last question on my end is the

1007
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: batting sense. It's a little bit white, you know, like

1008
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: it's like a weird batting sense where your feet are

1009
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: completely wided out. I noticed that just the other day.

1010
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: What how did that batting stance come to be? And

1011
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: how does it help you at least with your hitting.

1012
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 8: So, yes, it's very funny because a lot of people

1013
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 8: will make fun of me for it. It's just it's

1014
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 8: a feeling, you know, the real versus feel kind of thing.

1015
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 8: For me, it's just a feeling kind of thing. So

1016
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 8: I have a big problem with sliding my hips forward,

1017
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 8: and that means my head goes forward, my hands, everything,

1018
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 8: everything drags. And so with having my feet that way,

1019
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 8: I actually pretty much coil into my back hip so

1020
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 8: that I can stay there a little bit more and

1021
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 8: so I can create a little bit more power, a

1022
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 8: little bit more consistency. But one of the ways that

1023
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 8: I feel that and I feel the quirk and the

1024
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 8: already pretty much the the set of my back hit,

1025
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 8: I feel it by having my legs so far apart

1026
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 8: like that, and so like coming having essentially my foot

1027
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 8: come in to a step versus going forward. That's more

1028
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 8: where I feel that a little bit better, and I

1029
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 8: feel kind of that corkscrew into that back hit.

1030
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 6: And so it's a little bit interesting, but I hope

1031
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 6: it does the job.

1032
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: So far, it's been doing the job, and that's been progressively,

1033
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: you know, getting better offensively. So just serious, what aspect

1034
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: of your game do you feel needs the most improvement

1035
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: And at this point, you know you're one of the

1036
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: hottest hitters in minor league baseball.

1037
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 6: Just what do you feel of Stilney's work if anything?

1038
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 8: Definitely, I've been noticing, at least this last couple of weeks,

1039
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 8: I've been chasing out of the zone a little bit.

1040
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 6: And maybe that's me being greedy.

1041
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 8: And wanting to get more hits and more more of everything,

1042
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 8: and so, you know, taking more of what the pitcher

1043
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 8: gives me versus trying to make things happen a little

1044
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 8: bit more. Is I think the biggest thing that I

1045
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 8: need to work on, because clearly my walks are a

1046
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 8: little bit down this year.

1047
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 6: I definitely want to start walking a little bit more,

1048
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 6: taking better.

1049
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 8: Pitches, swinging at better pitches because as of right now,

1050
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 8: hitting in a three hole, I mean a little bit better,

1051
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 8: uh season so far, you know, pictuers are going to

1052
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 8: understand that they're gonna be like, okay, let's you know,

1053
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 8: pick the corners with this guy instead of just giving

1054
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 8: him pitches over the plate. And so I think that

1055
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 8: is where I need to grow a little bit more

1056
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 8: in the sense of being a little bit more picky

1057
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 8: of a hitter.

1058
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, as we're saying, as we're seeing on the screen

1059
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: that has some serious opposite oppositive field pop that you got.

1060
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 8: Man, So oh yeah, well, hey, I love it. That's

1061
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 8: that's my power spot when I'm when I'm not going well,

1062
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 8: I mean, everything's going the other way. So that's that's fantastic.

1063
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 8: That's my that's my sweet spot, my bread and butter.

1064
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 5: I love it, love it.

1065
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: And I guess the last thing I just want to

1066
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: ask you is just you know you've been with Pensacola.

1067
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: Which player, whether it's a pitcher, a hitter, which players

1068
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: we stood out to you and been like you think

1069
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: to yourself, well this guy, you know, he's nasty. It

1070
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: was like you've been the most impressive players so far.

1071
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: I mean one of your guys's favorites of course, Ji A. Perez,

1072
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: I call him. I call him me Nino because me

1073
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: and him hang out all the time. Yeah exactly, there

1074
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: you go. Me and him hang out all the time

1075
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: and bug each other and all this. Actually have a

1076
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: signed Yuri Perez Baseball and I'm going around. I'm like, well, guys,

1077
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be rich here in about two years. So,

1078
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: but he is one of my favorite characters on the team.

1079
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: I love having him around. Great clubhouse guy and of

1080
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: course very impressive on the mound at nineteen years old. Yeah,

1081
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: anyone's on the offensive side, by any chance that you

1082
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: know is really stood out.

1083
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 8: To offensive side. I Paul McIntosh another guy you get.

1084
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 8: I mean, just fantastic on both sides, quick hands, very consistent. Again,

1085
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 8: I'm bug him quite a bit, so we we actually

1086
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 8: will wrestle every once in a while, just because he

1087
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 8: thinks he's tougher than me.

1088
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 6: But I can't let him know that. But he's pretty

1089
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 6: he He's.

1090
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 8: One of those players that you're like, okay, this this

1091
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 8: guy can play a little bit. He's going to be

1092
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 8: hanging around for quite a long time. And it's really,

1093
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 8: you know, impressive that I get to be his teammate.

1094
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And my last question before we wrap this

1095
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: up is I want to ask, you know, my double

1096
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: A is one of the hardest leagues to hit him,

1097
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: So which picture has really stood out stood.

1098
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: Out to you?

1099
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: You know, when you face with someone that you just

1100
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: it's I guess the hardest pitcher you've ever faced in

1101
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: the minor league so far.

1102
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 8: Hardest pitcher I've ever faced. So I actually didn't face

1103
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 8: him if I can remember, right. There's two guys. The

1104
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 8: first one I would have to say is Daniel Espino

1105
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 8: from the Cleveland Indians. You know, ninety nine to one hundred.

1106
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 8: He's still pretty young twenty twenty one. But I faced

1107
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 8: him last year, and when I first faced him in

1108
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 8: twenty nineteen, it was his very first time got brought up.

1109
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 8: You know, we saw, we get the Skyder report, It's like,

1110
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 8: oh he's ninety eight to one hundred and one, great, okay, whatever,

1111
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 8: you know, we see that every day. Sure, but he

1112
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 8: comes in and he pretty much only had one pitch.

1113
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 8: It was pretty much a fastball. Can't locate his curveball,

1114
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 8: slide or anything. Came in twenty twenty one, saw him

1115
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 8: again at the very end of the season. He had

1116
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 8: four pitches he could throw for a strike, and I

1117
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 8: thought that was the most impressive development I've seen out

1118
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 8: of a young pitcher. And so that's that's definitely a

1119
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 8: guy you need to watch out for. Another one that

1120
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 8: I've seen is as of Lacey. Another guy that's you know,

1121
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 8: a good lefty arm, got four or five pictures you

1122
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 8: can throw for strikes.

1123
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 6: Everything's been in the.

1124
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 8: Other way away from lefties, and then I'll come in

1125
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 8: with a little two seam.

1126
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 6: But those are pretty much the two guys that have

1127
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 6: stood out. But this year in.

1128
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 8: Double A, you know, it's been a long season already.

1129
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 8: I haven't I don't remember. None of the Double A

1130
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 8: pictures this year stood out as much, just because I

1131
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 8: think most of the really, really good pictures are on

1132
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 8: the Marlins right now.

1133
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: So so yeah, that's the perfect spot to end to Troy.

1134
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: Thank you, if any any last words from you to

1135
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: the fans or anything you may want to tell us before.

1136
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 8: I mean, I just I appreciate everything that you guys

1137
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 8: have been doing. You guys do a great job, and

1138
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 8: you know, go Marlins.

1139
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: No, no, we'll wrap it up from from Isaac, from Troy,

1140
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Eli and the ones and twos in myself Kevin about it.

1141
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: We'll see you guys on the next one. Beat out

1142
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: and go Fish