1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: Hike and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. You say it's urgent edition as 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: my broadcast partner Dave Lapham joins me for an emergency 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: podcast following breaking news out of Paul Brown Stadium. We'll 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: discuss surprises on the just announce starting offensive line, the 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie wide receiver who no longer has to worry 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: about making the cut, and lap will also field some 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: of your questions via Twitter. Plus two additional conversations. We'll 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: hear from John Ross, who practiced for the first time 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: since training camp began on Sunday, and I'll talk to 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: a player on the roster bubble who says Thursday's final 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: preseason game is, in his words, life changing. All of 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: that is straight ahead, but first, here's a quick reminder 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: that you can have the latest edition of this podcast 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the greatest invention since Thermocell's patio shield mosquito repeller. There 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: is no love on Earth that compares to the way 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: mosquitos love me. In the summer, I am a living, 20 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: breathing mosquito bite. Well, recently my wife purchased the Thermocell 21 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Patio Shield Mosquito Repeller, which claims to create a fifteen 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: foot zone of protection on your patio or deck. It's 23 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: easy to use, looks pretty cool, and there's no spray, 24 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: smoke or scent. We broke it out last night and 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: I am mosquito bite free. So as if now it 26 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: qualifies as a great invention, Let's get to football. As 27 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: you probably know, football coaches can be pretty evasive when 28 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: it comes to sharing information. For example, a head coach 29 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: might hold a news conference and answer every question with 30 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: we're onto Cincinnati, But it doesn't appear that Zach Taylor 31 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: will follow that formula. On Sunday, he was asked if 32 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: the Bengals had decided on a starting offensive line. He 33 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: said yes, and name the starters. Later, he was asked 34 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: about the battle for roster spots and wide receiver and 35 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: shared that undrafted rookie Damian Willis will start in the 36 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: season opener at Seattle. That all qualifies as breaking news, 37 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: and more or less demanded an immediate edition of the 38 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast Lap We've called for an emergency podcast 39 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: after rather extraordinary news conference from Zach Taylor on Sunday 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: where he was as honest and as direct as an 41 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: NFL head coach can be. This was very unlike Marvin 42 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Lewis for the last sixteen years, where he didn't feel 43 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: comfortable in sharing a lot of the information that Zach 44 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: Taylor shared on Sunday. But let's start with the offensive line. 45 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: When asked if he had decided who the guys are 46 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: going to be to start up front against Seattle, he 47 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: not only said yes, he laid it out and here 48 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: is the group. Corty Glenn left tackle, rookie Michael Jordan, 49 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: left guard, Trey Hopkins center not Billy Price, John Miller, 50 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: right guard, Bobby Hart right tackle. Your reaction, well, my 51 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: initial reaction is hopefully Corty Glenn left tackle is in 52 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: concussion protocol and what those situations, You never know it. 53 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: It could be dicey, you could be up in the air. 54 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: But I hope he's able to go at left tackle. 55 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: If not, Andre Smith will get the knot out there 56 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: at the left tackle position in Seattle. Tough place to 57 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: open up as a left tackle not having a whole 58 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: lot of snaps there, but that's way down the road. 59 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: I guess the thing about Michael Jordan Dan, his good 60 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: is very, very good. I mean when you see when 61 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: you see him at his best, his upside is monstrous. 62 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: Now his bad is pretty bad too. I mean it's like, 63 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's worrisome, but and there's gonna be some 64 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: some ups and downs that you're gonna have to deal 65 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: with with with a young player like that. But the 66 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: fact is his upside is so high that I think 67 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: that coach Jim Turner and everybody involved in the decision 68 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: making just said, you know, we gotta, we gotta, let's 69 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: roll with this guy. And he's physical, athletic. You know, 70 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: this guy's massive. I mean he's big, thick, broad white, 71 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: everywhere you can be big. He's big. And there's a 72 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: thirty two inch vertical jump. That's some explosion. When you 73 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: can get a body that size off the ground thirty 74 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: two inches and that's that's impressive. So arms along on 75 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 1: doing the one arm punch that we talked about before 76 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: that Jim Turner is employing and pass protections. His arm 77 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: is looks like it's got seventy inches a length to it. 78 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: The way he throws that thing out there and Stymi's people, 79 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: so I can understand why they're going there. Any An, 80 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: He's smart, you know, it's not like it's too big 81 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: for him mentally, so I think they feel good about that. 82 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: And then Trey Hopkins at the center position, very intelligent himself. 83 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: You know, he's been referred to as a football savant. 84 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: You know, he understands why, not just what they're doing, 85 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: but why they're doing what they're doing and how to 86 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: do it the right way. And he's he's going to 87 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: be great in terms of making calls and communicating with 88 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: the young you know, rookie left tackle, not that Billy 89 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: Price couldn't Billy's you know, same thing. Very smart, understands 90 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: the game and all that goes along with it. But 91 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: just right now, whether it's due to Billy's you know, 92 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: plan of phyciis that he's battling in his foot, or 93 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: it's it's due to Trey hopkins excellence or consistency, I'll 94 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: put it that way, because like we said, Trey's never 95 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: gonna blow your way like oh man, he's overpowering, but 96 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: he's not going to screw it up either. So you 97 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get. He may be the most 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: consistent player that they've had in the organization for the 99 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, snaps that he's been out there. His peaks 100 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: and valleys are not like, oh, what am I going 101 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: to get? I know exactly what I'm going to get 102 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: from him, whereas with Michael, you know, it's like, ooh, 103 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: and what am I going to get? The good is 104 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: going to be very good, but the bad might not 105 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: be so great, obviously. So it's interesting that they get 106 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: the nod and it speaks volumes to a lot of 107 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: a lot of organizations, gives lip service to It's not 108 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: you know how you got here, it's what you do 109 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: once you get here. Here you have a fourth round 110 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: pick and a college free agent entering the NFL in 111 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: that manner, and they're both starting lineman in the National 112 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Football League. So it sends a message. Sends a message 113 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: to not just those guys for being rewarded for their effort, 114 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: but their teammates that you know, if you're out here 115 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: thinking you've got a job and you're just taking it 116 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: for granted and you're rolling your helmet out on the 117 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: field of practice every day, you better pick it up, man, 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: because somebody's going to replace you, especially when the undrafted 119 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: guy is now starting in place of last year's first 120 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: round draft pick, no question about it. And you know, 121 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: it's if you have some guys that are are, you know, 122 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: kind of sitting back and cruising, and it's like, yeah, 123 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm good, nobody's good. You got you gotta every day, 124 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: you gotta go out there and compete, compete for your job. 125 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: And the other side of that is, you know, Billy 126 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: Price and others, compete and get your job back. You know, 127 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: if the decision has been made right now that these 128 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: are the guys starting the Seattle game doesn't mean it's 129 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: it's locked and loaded for sixteen games. I'm not saying 130 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: it's casting Jello, but I'm not saying it's casting the 131 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: stone either, you know. I mean, it's I think it's like, 132 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna go this way. We feel like they've earned it, 133 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: and over a long period of time of you know, 134 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: OTAs and mini camps and training camp and you know, 135 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: all those things, we feel like this is the way 136 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 1: we want to go. But I mean, there's no reason 137 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: to assume the fetal position and give up on the 138 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: fact that you couldn't have the job at some point 139 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: in time. And the thing is in this league with injury, 140 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: we talked about it many times. Every play one percent 141 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: injury risk to every single player. So you're doing yourself 142 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: and your team at disservice if you're not ready to 143 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: jump in there, whatever the case may be, if it's 144 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: due to injury or inconsistent or you know, not good 145 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: enough play. You get an opportunity, you better be ready 146 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: yourself to take advantage of an opportunity. You're doing a 147 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: disservice to everybody across the board. So I like that 148 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: that message is being sent. Everybody work, everybody work to 149 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: the best of your ability to work, and then let 150 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: the chips fall as they may. But you know, don't 151 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: take anything for granted. Don't coast, don't put it in 152 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 1: cruise control. I've arrived. I'm the guy dangerous. They've already 153 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: set the precedent, They've shown what can happen. And I'm 154 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: not saying that that happened to those guys. But if 155 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: you're in that mindset and you think that that you 156 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: know that I'm I'm good boy in this game. Never 157 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: think you're good. Always realize there's somebody you know dying 158 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: to take your job, talking about taking advantage of an opportunity. 159 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: Then there's Damian Willis, undrafted rookie wide receiver out of Troy, 160 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: typically the kind of guy that's going to play a 161 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: million snaps in the final preseason game, trying desperately to 162 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: make the roster, even the practice squad. Well again being 163 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: totally frank. On Sunday, Zach Taylor comes out and says 164 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: he's going to get the final preseason game off. He's 165 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: made the team right now, he is the starting X 166 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: receiver in Week one in Seattle. And you know, all 167 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: he does is he's a perfect example of what we 168 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: were just talking about. Go out there, give your best effort. 169 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: Don't overthink it, you know, don't assume all these variables 170 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: and start talking yourself out of things or into things 171 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. Just go out perform, know what you're doing, 172 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: how you're supposed to do it, and do it the 173 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: best your ability and let the chips fall as they may, 174 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately for the organization, but fortunately for him. 175 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: Aj Green got hurt forty five minutes into the first practice. 176 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: Aj Green will be the ex receiver if he wasn't injured, 177 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: but he's injured, so somebody has to feel that that 178 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: spot he went out and want it. God bless him. 179 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean, congratulations, that's one hell of a story and 180 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, everybody should take a look at that. John 181 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: Ross basically hasn't taken us this Sunday as we're speaking 182 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: at this practice. It's the first practice that John Ross 183 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: is going to be involved in, so two theoretically, you know, 184 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: two starters haven't even participated. So that gave him an opening, 185 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: but he gave everybody else an opening too. And he's 186 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: the one that rose to the top. He said, I'm 187 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: going to be the cream. I'm gonna rise to the top. 188 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: And you know, you hear the other receivers talking about him, 189 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: like when we talk to John Ross today, Dan he said, 190 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: this guy can do everything. And speaking of Damian Willis, 191 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: speaking of Damian Willis that I can't believe that he's 192 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: this talented and there was no buzz about him, absolutely 193 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: no buzz about this this guy because he can do everything. 194 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: That's from a you know, a guy in his position 195 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: group that he's going to be competing against. You know 196 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: now that now that Ross is back in the practice field, 197 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: but he respects him. I mean he's like, wow, look 198 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: at this, guys and everybody respect him, including the coaches, 199 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: and they made the decision he's not gonna play against 200 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: the Colts and he's gonna line up out there in 201 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: Seattle and get after the Seattle defense and that crowd 202 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: noise and try to make some plays and help win 203 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: a football game. And that's just in conversation with him. 204 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: He played quarterback earlier in his career. He's played not 205 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: only quarterback with a QUE, cornerback with a C. So 206 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: that's a good pedigree as a quarterback. He knows, you know, 207 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: what he's trying to look at to decipher things. And 208 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: then on the flip side, having played corner he knows 209 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: techniques that are going to be employed against him. Now 210 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: that he's a receiver and he can see read things 211 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: and understand coverages, holes and coverages, he might be able 212 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: to take advantage of how he can beat techniques. What 213 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: guys did to him when he was playing cornerback that 214 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: gave him problems in terms of releases off the line, 215 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: scrunge and those kind of things. So the fact that 216 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: he understands coverages because of the quarterback and cornerback play, 217 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: I think has helped him immensely in his transition too 218 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver position. I said to you after Zach Taylor's 219 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: news conference, these where Patriots moves to me, where it's 220 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: all about the meritocracy. The most deserving guy gets the position. 221 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: And I'm going to give some credit to Mike Brown 222 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: and the Bengals upper management in giving Zach Taylor and 223 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: his coaching staff the total green light to say, hey, 224 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: you've got to coach these guys. You decide which guys 225 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: are most deserving of the playing time. Absolutely, And I 226 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: think I think that such a young head coach and 227 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: a young coaching staff, I think they feel like, you know, what, 228 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: if the young guy deserves it, let's play him. I think, 229 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, Marvin, being a veteran coach with the vet 230 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: more veteran coaching staff, trusted veteran players, it's like, you know, 231 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I remember, you know, when I first 232 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: came in the league, I didn't know this. I didn't 233 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: know what I didn't know. Now I know, and you know, 234 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: as a coach and I know players, I don't trust 235 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: rookie players. But this younger coaching staff seems to not 236 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: have as big an issue with that. And you know, 237 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: and that's a philosophy, that's a mindset. And I think 238 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: that these young coaches adapt really well to coaching up 239 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: these young players, and there's a it's all about bonding 240 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: in relationships and trust and all those kind of things. 241 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: And I think that that, you know, the veteran coaching 242 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: staff didn't have the trust in the young players this 243 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: group does. This group feels like age isn't an issue. 244 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're showing me that you can handle it, 245 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: it's not too big for you. You're gonna play. I'm 246 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: gonna play you. So I think I think the combination 247 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: of these young guys coming to take advantage of opportunities 248 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: and being in the right mindset, the right approach, the 249 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: right philosophical approach how to handle it all, and coaches 250 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: that have the right mindset and philosophical approach to coaching 251 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: him to handle those things. I think that's been a 252 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: one plus one equals three synergistic type thing, you know, 253 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: getting those guys ready for the roles that they have 254 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: to play. A. J. Green was in the locker room 255 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: today for the first time in a while. He still 256 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: got the boot on his ankle. He has one of 257 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: those one legged scooters to get around and he didn't 258 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: feel like talking to reporters yet. But what's your best 259 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: guests at this point for what we're likely to see him? 260 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: I would I would hope, and I guess, you know, 261 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: hope's probably the key word. That it might be the 262 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game Week four, Week four, the Monday night game 263 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: and to September Monday Night in Pittsburgh, because you know 264 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: that's going to be a tough battle. And if you 265 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: can get a guy like AJ green Back for a 266 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: contest like that, that's literally getting a first round draft pick, 267 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: a future Hall of Famer, all these things to give 268 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: you a lift as you're getting ready for that game, 269 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: and an offensive playmaker that you know has has really 270 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: done good things against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think that 271 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: would be unbelievable. But if it's rushing it, you know, 272 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: I think I think week five that could possibly be 273 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: the the target p I think it's going to be 274 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: in that area week four or week five. So but 275 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: Aj is a is a quick healer. I understanding he's 276 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: not feeling pain, which is a good sign. Not feeling 277 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: pain at this point in time, So you know that 278 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: he has always been ahead of ahead of the clock 279 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: in terms of his rehabilitation. I don't think this thing 280 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: will be any any different. And it is. It's like 281 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: he's such a such a genetic marvel and takes care 282 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: of himself so well that recovery is going to be 283 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: on the fast side. It's just the way he's built. 284 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the wide receiver position. Going into this 285 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: final preseason game. There are now five locks, essentially A 286 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: j Green, Tyler Boyd, John Ross, Alex Ericsson and now 287 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Damian Willis. What about Odd and Tate, Cody Core, Josh 288 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: Mallow and maybe somebody else. Yeah, I mean it's how 289 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: many you're gonna keep six? Seven? You know, you think 290 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna keep six? Anyway? Will it be seven? And 291 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: at that point definitely number seven and potentially number six. 292 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: Then not only can be competing with the other receivers, 293 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: they're competing with all the other guys that are battling 294 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: for the last two or three roster spots. That's going 295 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: to be determined by special teams as well as what 296 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: you can do your position group in terms of snaps 297 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: provided to the organization, to the football team. Cody Core 298 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: is probably the best special teams player of the group 299 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: add and Tate is limited because of his foot speed, 300 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: So I mean he'd have to do things that bigger 301 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: body guys do on special teams. He's kind of a 302 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: tween or special teams guy, not fast enough, but not 303 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: quite big enough because you know, I mean he has speed, 304 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: that's not he can't be a gunner, but you know, 305 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: is he big enough to handle some of the interior 306 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: things that are done on punt coverage and punt return 307 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: and those kind of things. So he's kind of finds 308 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: himself in a conundrum there. But his ability to make 309 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: contested catches, you know, translates to third down in red zone, 310 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: and those guys valuable. I mean, if you that's the money, 311 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: that's those are the money areas, third downs, the money 312 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: down red zones, the money zone and the football field. 313 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: If you have a guy that can make serious contributions 314 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: there like he can, it's it's it's a variable number 315 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: of snaps. How many times are you in the red zone? 316 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: You don't know, you're not gonna be guaranteed to be 317 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: in the red zone three or four times every game, 318 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: you hope you are. How many third down opportunities you're 319 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: gonna have you hope you have quite a few, and 320 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: there's snaps there for sure, But does that offset the 321 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: snaps of Cody core would give you on special teams 322 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: and maybe an emergency receiver due to injury and so 323 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: and then Malone. You know, Malone hasn't shown himself to 324 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: be a special teams guy. And he's got some raw 325 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: physical ability that's different than his speed is off the charts. 326 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: He's got size, he's got speed. He's been inconsistent with 327 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: the catch. You know, Cody Cored will go block, Auden 328 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: table go block. Malone has been a little bit more 329 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: dicey in that area in terms of black So all 330 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: of these things, you know, it's gonna be, it's gonna 331 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: be a tough decision. It's gonna be, you know, make 332 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: a list of pros and cons and when when you 333 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: weigh it out, how many snaps are these pros and 334 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: cons equate to? And those are the guys will probably 335 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: make those roster spots. The tough thing is for Darren Simmons, 336 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: there aren't as many snaps being provided to special teams 337 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: from the linebacker positions there are with other teams around 338 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: the league. So Roddy Anderson is going to be a 339 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: potentially big special teams performer. He was going to play 340 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: a lot more special teams you know, than he did 341 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: last Thursday night. But he got on such a role 342 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: in terms of catching, you know, run after catch. They 343 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: wanted to see a little bit more of that. So Darren, 344 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: I think, backed off on his special team snaps. It 345 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: could be the reverse against the Colts. He may play 346 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: less snaps offensively, but get a real test by Darren 347 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: Simmons to see if he can be a guy because 348 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: he's going to be the fourth running back, maybe even 349 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, he'll be the fourth running back, but he's 350 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: gonna have to play a lot of special teams. I 351 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: feel that fourth running back, So the fourth running back, 352 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: sixth wide receiver, deifth watchers. Where are these special team STAPs? 353 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: Who's fighting? That's what I mean. It's like they're not 354 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: just competing with their position group. They're competing with the 355 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: running back, They're competing with the the defensive back. They're 356 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: competing with you know, maybe a defensive lineman that can 357 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: like win, you know, whin's making the team and he's 358 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: taking some special team snaps, So you're competing with all 359 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: these guys for Darren Simmons, which is a big, big, 360 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: you know area. It's the all important third phase. Special 361 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: teams wins and loses games for you, So all those 362 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: snaps are vitally important. If they wind up signing somebody 363 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: that gets released by another team, what position do you 364 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: think that guy will play? In my mind? Linebacker? You know, 365 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean I could see on marriage and you know, 366 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that you, you know, make the you 367 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: might make the roster close to this defensively, but there's 368 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: eleven defensive lineman I'd like to have on my football team. 369 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: But you can't keep eleven or can't you eleven? Four linebackers? 370 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: And you know you have to have more than four 371 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: and ten defensive backs. That's how I do the twenty five. 372 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm going in a perfect world, twenty five offense, twenty 373 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: five defense, and three special teams for my fifties three 374 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: man roster. Right now, if I'm going on merrit only 375 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: most deserving, most deserving, eleven defensive linemen, four linebackers, ten 376 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: defensive backs, now that'll that'll change. I'd have my I 377 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: know everybody would know that's not my final roster. You know, 378 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: I'd be I'm not all my linebackers obviously on the 379 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: fifty three a man roster, honoring this current roster. Potentially 380 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking for for for another one, maybe 381 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: another two somewhere else. But and then make changes accordingly. 382 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: You know that keep ten defensive linemen, maybe nine defensive 383 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: backs or whatever, if you can find another linebacker or 384 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: two that you think that Darren Simmons feels good about, 385 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, as well as lou Anna Rumo, because you 386 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: need to have somebody that can work with. Can he 387 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: play defense for the way we play it, And does 388 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: Darren Simmons feel like he can play special teams? Get 389 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: some special team snaps? So yeah, I mean, I think 390 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: I think that linebacker position um is going to be 391 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: is going to be the one because in my mind, 392 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: offensive line, no third tackles are going to be let 393 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: go anywhere. And maybe there a team is really loaded 394 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: and they have a fourth offensive tackle that is a 395 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: good player, but they try to trade. I mean, everybody wants, 396 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, if your number four is better than my 397 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: number three. There's probably a few teams in the league 398 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: that that is the case with and they try to 399 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: make some sort of a trade. So I'd say that 400 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: the linebacker position would probably be the one that they 401 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: may be getting off the waiver wire somewhere. All right. 402 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: I announced on Twitter we were going to record an 403 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: emergency podcast in light of today's news breaking developments, and 404 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: I asked people that had questions to send them to 405 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: me via Twitter. So we will take a few Twitter 406 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: questions as well. This is from Jeff, and I'm going 407 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: to paraphrase slightly. With the moves announced today, with undrafted 408 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: free agents starting and young guys starting, should the fan 409 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: base feel optimistic about this coaching staff? You know, I guess, 410 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: I guess on the raw, the raw look of oh 411 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: my goodness, who are we playing? I mean, these guys, 412 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: these guys don't have there's no fan fare here. You know, 413 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: these guys aren't coming out of college. They weren't you know, 414 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: everybody's making everybody's list. They weren't the guy as such. Well, 415 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, some guys slip through the cracks. A lot 416 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: of guys, a lot of guys are in the Hall 417 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: of Fame, like McK Tingelhoff. That's the guy that I 418 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: always come back to the Minnesota Vikings. The dude was, 419 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, seventeenth round pick or something. You know, Jim 420 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: Langer with the Miami Dolphins, another center was not a 421 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: high draft pick coming out of coming out of college. 422 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: It's it's guys mature and develop at different times, and 423 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: sometimes you're not in the right situation being in the 424 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: right place at the right time that fits your skill set. 425 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: It's all. Some of it is luck and timing, and 426 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: some guys, you know, an opportunity presents itself. Because in 427 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: the Bengals case, where you've got these guys playing, the 428 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: first round draft pick, Jonah Williams gets hurt before things 429 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: even start. Aj Green gets hurt forty five minutes into 430 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: the first practice of training camp. Two number one draft 431 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: picks by the boards. Now you've got opportunity and the 432 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: guys that seize the moment where you know later round 433 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: draft picks or the undrafted guys. And it's not like 434 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Tredy Hawkins. He's been here for a while and he's 435 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: proved himself. They kept him as a restricted free agent, 436 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: meaning he's going to make more than three million dollars 437 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: this year, So it's not like they thought, well, this 438 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: guy is questionable. He's a valuable part of this team. Absolutely. 439 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: I remember when he came from University of Texas as 440 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: a college free agent. I saw him play at Texas. 441 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, hey, this guy played high school 442 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: football Texas, went to University of Texas, Skins on the wall. 443 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: You know, you know he can play. Paul Alexander saw 444 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: something in me. Broke his leg. Paul Alexander said, we 445 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: got to keep this guy around, keep learning the practice squad. 446 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: You know, let's work with him. You know. Then, you know, 447 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: it's like he's been through three offensive line coaches now 448 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: and they all have agreed that this guy has something. 449 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: And what he has is, you know exactly what you're 450 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: going to get out of him. He's got consistency. With 451 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: the capitol C C on his chest isn't for captain 452 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: on the on the jersey, It's for consistency, mister consistency, 453 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: And that's what coaches love. And he's not going to 454 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: let you down. So yeah, I mean, and Willis's you know, 455 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: is a great story. Now. You know, I'm not saying 456 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks are trembling in 457 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: their boots saying, who Trey Hopkins is a starting center? 458 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: Damian Willis is the starting X receiver. Who man, we're 459 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: in trouble now. But you know what, these guys earned 460 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: their their opportunity, earned their position. And uh, you know 461 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: these guys are NFL players. Am I saying their Pro 462 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: Bowl players? I am not? Am I saying they belong 463 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: on the field in the National Football League? I most 464 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: certainly am, because they've earned it and they deserve it. 465 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: I can think of a tenth round draft pick named 466 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: Tim Krumer I worked out pretty well, no question about it. 467 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: I can think of twelfth round Bob Trump worked out 468 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: pretty well. So I mean there's there's a lot of 469 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: a lot of cases of of guys that you know, 470 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: you miss on some. And I'll tell you what, getting 471 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: Rodney Anderson in the sixth round that could be a 472 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: nice steal for the Cincinnati Bengals organization as well. In 473 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: this year's draft, Twitter question from Mark what's your level 474 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: of confidence in this old line? I think this old 475 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: line the one thing that it has is multiple guys 476 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: can play multiple positions. So the offensive line and you know, 477 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, okay, people are going to be thinking, oh man, 478 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: he's reaching now, are you kidding me? It is a 479 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: plus that this offensive line can go into a game 480 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: on a forty six man roster for game day and 481 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: only have seven active and not have to activate eight 482 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: or nine because of the fact that the two guys 483 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: that are playing that aren't in the starting lineup. If 484 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: they have to, they can both play you know, three 485 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: positions or more, maybe you know four or five line 486 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: positions each of them. I mean, there's that position versatility, 487 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: and Jim Turner has been working on that. I mean 488 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: it has been a rotation in the preseason games. Every 489 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: series it's another another mix and match another and he's 490 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: trying to find the right chemistry. And you know, you 491 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: can argue two ways. You can say a lineman, it 492 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 1: should work together. My philosophy has always been, like an 493 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: offensive line, five components, four fingers in a thumb. You 494 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: make a fish. You don't think about it, It It just 495 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: involuntarily happens, you know, put the four fingers down and 496 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: wrap the thumb. That's offensive line play. But in today's NFL, 497 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, you have to be able to adapt to 498 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: different guys, and different guys are going to be playing 499 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: different position groups. You can't make the team now as 500 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: a backup right guard, only a backup center, only a backup. 501 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: You have to be. If you're a backup, you have 502 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: to be a swing tackle, a swing guard being able 503 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: to play them both, or a swing interior lineman being 504 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: able to play center in both guards. So and they've 505 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: got that. So I think in terms of that, I 506 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: feel good. But I do think that this offensive line 507 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: is going to be playing a lot better at the 508 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: end of the month of September than in the beginning 509 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: of the month of September when they go to Seattle. 510 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's a group that has not taken a 511 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: lot of snaps together, loud place, silent snap count. I mean, 512 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: all the things you're looking at. You say, man, this 513 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: is a recipe for a boy, a bunch of false starts, 514 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of problems, and you know, or if you're 515 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: laid off the ball, you know, your only advantage is gone. 516 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: You're grabbing because they're already beaten you and you get 517 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: holding pennys. There's all kinds of potential issues out there 518 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: because it is you know, undrafted free agent center, fourth 519 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: round rookie at left guard. You know, it's a Andre 520 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: Smith is not taking a lot of snaps at the 521 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: left tackle position. So if he had to play if 522 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: he had to play it. If you Corty Glenn can't 523 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: make the dance, so well, if Corty Glenn does. If 524 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm the offensive line coach, and I know Jimmy's probably 525 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: thinking the same thing, I'm not sure I can count 526 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: on them to play the entire game at Seattle. I'm 527 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: not sure I can count on to play sixteen games 528 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: of the season because historically he's shown that he hasn't 529 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: done that. So that's where that position versatility and other 530 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: guys being able to play left tackle and right guard. 531 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: You know, whatever the case may be, We'll see how 532 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: it unfolds. But you know, I know that as of 533 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: right now, from what I've looked at, they got like 534 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: three running plays in and three maybe four protections. They 535 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: are as white as vanilla can be vanilla vanilla. So 536 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: they're not showing anything that they're going to do it. 537 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: And you know, every but everybody can say that, but 538 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: this group, I think is intentionally doing that because their 539 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: biggest advantage is the only year where when they go 540 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: into their season opener, Pete Carroll has no idea exactly 541 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. He's looking at rams tape, he's 542 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: looking at my Dolphins tape. He's looking at probably Texas 543 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: A and M tape where everywhere Zax coached. He's looking 544 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: at offensive tape to see what you know, it's going 545 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: to be a pain in the next to prepare for him. 546 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: But Seattle will just run their stuff. You know, Seattle, 547 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: it's not the defense that won Super Bowls for him. 548 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: They're not that good. But they've got the best linebacker. 549 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: Wagner is the best linebacker in football. In my opinion. 550 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: That guy's is going to be somebody you really have 551 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: to account for when you're blocking up front with the 552 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: offensive line. He's unbelievable. But you know, we'll see. We'll 553 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 1: see how they how they compete, We'll see what kind 554 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: of a game plan they put together. We'll see. I 555 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: think we're going to see things we certainly have not 556 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: seen in the preseason. That's for daunt Here. We've got 557 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of Twitter questions about the wide receiver position. 558 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: We covered it earlier, except for the fact than I 559 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: inadvertently left out Stanley Morgan and he's not out of 560 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: it yet, the fact that he was hurt last week 561 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: and missed Week three of the preseason, and at this 562 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: point we don't know about his status for Week four 563 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: of the preseason. That obviously hurt his case. Yeah, no 564 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Just you know, ill timed in and 565 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: that happens a lot. I mean, guys don't make the 566 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: NFL because they got hurt at the wrong time and 567 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: then never get a chance to work their way back 568 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: into the mix with anybody. Really, it's kind of sad. 569 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: I see Stanley Morgan though, as worst case scenario, practice 570 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: squad guy that will work his tailoff and be probably 571 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: the best practice squad wide receiver you could ask for, 572 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: and who knows there may be an opportunity for him 573 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: at some point in time during the season. And because 574 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: they've shown that, you know, if there's injury or whatever 575 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: the God forbid or whatever other case it may be, 576 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: if you're showing that you should be promoted from the 577 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: practice squad to the fifty three man roster based on 578 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: the way you're working, Zach, and this coaching staff will 579 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: do it. I mean, what they've done for this opener 580 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: proves that fact. So if I'm a practice squad player 581 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals, if I'm an agent that i'm evaluating, 582 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: should my client go to the Bengals practice squad or 583 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears practice squad. I'm saying the Bengals are 584 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: giving all these guys are fair shot. I think I 585 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: think my guy might might be better off than Cincinnati. 586 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Twitter question John Jerry's quality of playing. John is uh, 587 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, not the not the same guy in terms 588 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: of his footwork as he was in the earlier stages 589 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: of his career. He's a nine year player. He missed 590 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: lat he sat out last year and its entirety, so 591 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's longer in the tooth. He's on 592 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: the back nine. I don't know what hole he's potting 593 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: out on, but he's on the back nine. So but 594 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: but what he's got is uh experience intelligence. Uh. Jimmy 595 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: Turner and and he have worked together prior to this 596 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: in Miami, so he knows exactly what Jimmy wants. He 597 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: can demonstrate techniques that Jimmy Turner's talking about because he's 598 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: done it before. Jimmy Turner can throw up tape of 599 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: him playing for the Miami Dolphins. This is exactly how 600 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: we want it done. And the guy that's doing it 601 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: sitting right here in the room with you. Guys. You 602 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: know John Jerry, and he's shown he can play guard. 603 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: He's showing me complay tackles. So he's got position versatility. 604 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: Am I saying he was the player he was when 605 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: he was you know, three or four years in the league. No, 606 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: But can he feel a role they're asking him to fill. 607 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: I think he can. We'll find out. All right, Let's 608 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: cover one more topic, and that was Saturday's stunning announcement 609 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: out of Indianapolis that Andrew Luck is retiring at the 610 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: age of twenty nine. That really saddened me, not only 611 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: because he's such a great player, but I just admire 612 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: him so much personally. I admire the things he's done 613 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: for children in Indianapolis, and it really made me sad 614 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: that this endless run of injuries and rehab and he's 615 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: healthy for a while and then he gets hurt again 616 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: was just ultimately too much for him. Yeah, he's a 617 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: he's a very unique guy in the era of Twitter 618 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: and social media. He has a flip phone, he doesn't 619 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: have Twitter, but he has a kid's book club. You know, 620 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: that's him, I think in a nutshell. You know, he's 621 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: extremely intelligent. Stanford Grad that he is. I mean, he's 622 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: got a Baul pedigree. Oliver Luck his dad played in 623 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: the National Football League. I remember playing against him when 624 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: he was with the Houston Oilers as a backup quarterback 625 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: down there. And you know, he's he's had a big 626 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: career with NFL Europe. He was a major executive in that. 627 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: He's going to be involved with the XFL. Now. Andrew Luck, 628 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, has traveled the world and he's going to 629 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: travel it some more. You know, he was over in 630 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: Europe when he's growing up, when his dad was running 631 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: in NFL Europe, and soccer was you know, very very 632 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: important to him as he was growing up as an athlete. 633 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: So he is, he's so gifted. I mean, he's he's 634 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: a big dude. I remember walking by him the first 635 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: time the Bengals played him in the preseason. He's like, 636 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, six four plus two hundred and forty pounds plus. 637 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, man, defensive mandas and linebackers going to have 638 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: a hard time hauling this guy down. But and it's 639 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: incrediblely you look at him, you think he's almost indestructible. 640 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: But like he said, for the last four years, he 641 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: was in constant pain, injury, pain, rehab, injury, pain, rehab, shoulder, ankle, 642 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, different body parts. He was sacked, you know, 643 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: more than anybody in the NFL. He's strong, more touchdown 644 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: passes in his first six years of play than anybody 645 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: in the league in the history of the NFL except 646 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: for Dan Marino. So, I mean, this guy, and part 647 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: of it was his own fault because he held the 648 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: ball so long, and he didn't have a very good 649 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: offensive line to begin with a lot of his career, 650 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: so a lot of his pain was self inflicted by 651 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: his you know, mindset and his desire to be I'm 652 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: going to tough it out and show I'm going to 653 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: hold it to the last second and you know, just 654 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: stripe it in there and take the hit. He paid 655 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: a price, so you know, nobody knows what it's like 656 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: for him for the last four years of his life. 657 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: And just watching him make that announcement and say, I 658 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: just I just want a better quality of life than 659 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: I've had the last four years, and unfortunately that can 660 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: include football for me anymore. I watched him say it 661 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: and the expression on his face, I mean, he was crestfallen, 662 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, and watching him catch his emotions more than 663 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: once during the course of his retirement speech, and you know, 664 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: again having a flip phone, everybody's on the side, let's say, 665 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: hey man, I'm here, you're retiring. Well, he was gonna 666 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: do it, He's gonna make the announcement after the Bengals 667 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: preseason game, but somebody in his inner circle let it out. 668 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: That's who should have been booed, no question, and that boy, 669 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: he was really hurt by that one being booed that 670 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: one because, like you said, Dan, I mean, he's given 671 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: his heart and soul to Indianapolis. He said multiple times, 672 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: this is home, Indianapolis, a great city, and you know, 673 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: I've been adopted here and you know all of that, 674 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: and then for him to get booed like that, and 675 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: you know, it's such a knee jerk reaction. And at 676 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: that point, maybe there's five thousand people left in the stands, 677 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: but they were booing him and it was loud, and 678 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, but you can't when they have time to 679 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: think about it. You know that that's not how I 680 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: don't think the city of Indianapolis is gonna feel about 681 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: it when they have time to digest it. All right, 682 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: you're rolling. This emergency podcast is complete. I appreciate your time, 683 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: my pleasure, sir. While AJ Green will definitely miss the 684 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: start of the season, there is at least hope that 685 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: John Ross will be back in action. He injured his 686 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: hamstring in a walkthrough before the Bengals held their first 687 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: training camp practice in Dayton, and finally was able to 688 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: practice on Sunday. That gives John two weeks to get 689 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 1: up to speed and two weeks for the coaching staff 690 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: to determine if he can contribute in Week one against 691 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. My colleague Wayne box Miller, host of the 692 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: Bengals pre and postgame show and the Bengals Radio Network, 693 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: went one on one with Ross, had his locker on Sunday. 694 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: How does John Ross stayed calm? Because I know you 695 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: chomping at the bid. I saw you worked out this 696 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: summer very hard. But t j Ushmizana, But how do 697 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: you stay calm knowing like man, I just I just 698 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: want to get going. Yeah, that's the hard part for me. 699 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: Man I stay in calm. It is just because I 700 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: want to be so I want to be so great. 701 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: I want to I just want to do so much, 702 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's why, you know, I 703 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: tend to hurt myself a lot as I try to 704 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: do so much. You know, you know, me being calm 705 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: is the hardest thing for me. But um, you know, 706 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: I just trying to stay honest about who I am, man, 707 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: and trying to relax and you know, just let my 708 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: game speak for yourself. Speaking of speaking for yourself, you 709 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: become like a touchdown maker. I think a lot of 710 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: people thought you were only speed, but they didn't realize 711 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: that in the red zone, you're just as effective as 712 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: if you had an open field, right right. That's just 713 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: my biggest thing. I mean, you know, I had to 714 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: find my you know, my position last year. You know, 715 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: it was it was kind of up and down for me, 716 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, but once I realized that, you know, I 717 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: come alive in the red zone, you know, I had 718 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: to keep that alive and each and every game, you know, 719 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: my main goals to getting end zone to help the 720 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: team win. You do you feel a little um, I 721 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: don't want to say pressure, but a little bit more 722 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: responsibility with a j I don't to try to really 723 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: make sure you get back and just contribute. Yeah, man, 724 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: I felt, you know, not even so much of this pressure. 725 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: Just I'm just so anxious I felt. I felt the 726 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: same way when you know when he's here, you know, um, 727 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, because it's just giving where I was drafted 728 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: and giving you know, the expectations. You know, I just 729 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: got so much expectations for myself and I haven't been 730 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: able to fulfill those jets, you know. So I'm working 731 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: on that, and I'm you know, each and every day, 732 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm working on getting better and trying to bring something 733 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: to my game that I didn't have the previous two years. 734 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: And lastly, as you look at this year, you know, 735 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: you get more comfortable every year, no matter what craft 736 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: you're end talking about your comfort level just playing and 737 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: with this offense and being in the system. Just less thinking. 738 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: You know, the more comfortable you get, the less thinking. 739 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: Let's thinking you do the faster you play, you know. 740 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: So that's kind of just my biggest thing right now. 741 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: I'm trying to just relax and half fun, you know, 742 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: and not go out there and think about how to 743 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: catch the ball, how to run this route, how you know, 744 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: just go out there and half fun. Thanks Box. The 745 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: final game of the preseason gets widely mocked because very 746 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: few starters league wide we'll see action, but For players 747 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: fighting for spots near the end of the roster, the 748 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: final preseason game could determine if they have a job 749 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: that pays six figures next week, or if a lifelong 750 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: dream is coming to an end. I spoke to a 751 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: Bengals player on Sunday who made it abundantly clear just 752 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: how important Week four of the preseason is to him. 753 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: We're in the locker room and Bengals defensive lineman Andrew Brown. 754 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: Through three preseason games so far, you've had more snaps 755 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: on defense than anybody else on the team. Has that 756 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: been a good thing? Hey? I think so. I would 757 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: like to say that, Yeah, it's a lot of work. Yeah, yeah, 758 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. But you know what I'm 759 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: built for. You know, I'm built the work hard, and 760 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: I can honestly say, like it does feel like it's 761 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: starting to payoff. So can't speak too soon, though. You know, 762 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: you got one more game ahead of me, and I'm 763 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: focused on the Colts right now. It's gonna keep my 764 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: head down, keep grinding, and like I told you earlier, 765 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, I just gotta say confident and consistent. You know, 766 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: how important do you feel that fourth preseason game is 767 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: for you personally, I'd say it's it's life changing group. 768 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: I should say, this game right here is either do 769 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: or die. Man. I'm definitely looking forward to it, you know, 770 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. We're talking to Andrew Brown. 771 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: You had a sack in the preseason opener. So far, 772 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: you've got seven quarterback pressures, which leads the team through 773 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: three preseason games. What are your strengths as a pass rusher. Um, 774 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: I would definitely say number one is my quickness. You know, 775 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm very quick. Uh got goospy. I'll probably say, um, 776 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 1: my power as well. I'm quick and I'm powerful. So 777 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: those are my top two attributes. How far have you 778 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: come in that department from your first day in Cincinnati 779 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 1: until now? Man, I've come so long away, so long away, 780 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: and I'm only climbing, like still gotta keep climbing. O 781 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: my god. But I definitely see it. I feel a 782 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: huge difference in myself, you know, and I'm proud of myself. 783 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: We're talking to Andrew Brown. You got a new defensive 784 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,959 Speaker 1: line coach this year, and nikkis and spent nine years 785 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL, won a Super Bowl ring with 786 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers, but still playing this decade. What impact has 787 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: he had on you? Wo? Man, He's had a huge 788 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: impact on me, man, you know, because the one thing 789 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: that he preaches is just having honesty with one another 790 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: and preaching brutal effects. And he's gonna let me know, 791 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, from doing good, I'm doing good. From doing bad, 792 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm doing base, Gonna coach me up in certain positions. 793 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: But also he's like he's a player's coach, So I 794 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: feel a lot looser, you know, I feel like I 795 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: can really move within the defense with him, Like I'm 796 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: not so much worried about messing up. I'm just so 797 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: so worried about, you know, focusing on my keys like 798 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: he always tells us. And I love coach. I love 799 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: that course. You're a high energy guy, very enthusiastic at practice. 800 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: Makes me think you love the game of football? Is 801 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: that the case? And why? And that is the case. 802 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 1: I've been playing this game so I was four years old. 803 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: And how do you not like you've done something for 804 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: so long in your life and you put so much 805 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: time in working blood and sweat and tears into it, 806 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: and when it finally comes to start paying dividends, you 807 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: know you're doing something that you love to do and 808 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: that you've done all your life, and hey, it's a 809 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: blessing to be here. There are guys style that hang 810 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: it said, it's a high paying job. I do it 811 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: because it's a high paying job. You just strike me 812 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: as somebody that you enjoy practice, you enjoy everything about it, 813 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: and sir, absolutely and more than more than that though. 814 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: It's the ground like because with the grind comes success. 815 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: So if you put the work in, hey, the right way, 816 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: anything can happen. Last question for Andrew Brown. You didn't 817 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: get to play last year due to injury. What did 818 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: you miss the most? Man? What do I miss the most? 819 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: Just being out there with a group of guys that 820 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: I live on four and contributing to the team, Like 821 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: that's my main thing. Like it just sucks watching, you know, 822 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: especially like when you're not having them with success in 823 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: the game, it's like, dang, like I wish I was 824 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: in there to help, you know what I'm saying. Like 825 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: that's more so when I was missing the most. But 826 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: now that I feel like I'm in the position of 827 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: power now where I can't help my team, you know, 828 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 1: that's that means the world. It's been a great preseason 829 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: so far, best of luck against the Colts. Thank you 830 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: so much. So that's Andrew Brown that's going to do 831 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: it for this edition of the podcast. If you haven't 832 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: done so already, don't forget to subscribe on itune, Stitcher, 833 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean and if you have 834 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: a minute, give it a rating or leave a comment. 835 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: Your feedback has been great and five star ratings help 836 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: more Bengals fans find this podcast. I'm Dan Horde. Thanks 837 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: for listening to the Bengals Booth podcast.