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Speaker 2: Shay, you have put me on with this reply, you

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Speaker 2: know we've got a hot one online for Eddie from Manhattan.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 2: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Friday, May fifteenth. This

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Speaker 2: is Film Session and today we're breaking down nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: six basketball movie. Eddie. I'm jaz Hes and alongside mean

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Speaker 2: thanks to the power of technology.

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Speaker 3: Task Mellis.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, hey to ask we got the Bearded one.

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Speaker 2: Trey Kirby, Hey, Hey yoo, the international man of mystery

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Speaker 2: taking it to the max, Lee Ellis Friends. Then, last

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Speaker 2: but not least, a man making the magic happen. JD. Hello,

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Speaker 2: We had a huge guest on Poppin' Packs yesterday, Lee,

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Speaker 2: well done.

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Speaker 4: Ariel was great. He was great. In fact, he fact

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's right, video exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like thirty five minutes. I was like, what

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Speaker 2: the hell happened here? Did he not know any NBA players?

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Speaker 4: The opposite man, his knowledge ran d so go get

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Speaker 4: it right? In fact, so great. We are going to

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Speaker 4: hopefully next week.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're just gonna rip the audio from that on

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Speaker 4: Could do that, Yeah, but we're going to get a

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Speaker 4: lot of a lot of fun stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 4: So look look forward to that one, all right.

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Speaker 2: And you know we're on Facebook at Facebook dot com

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Speaker 2: slash no dunk's ink.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess it's official. We're now on Facebook, all right.

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Speaker 2: Today's basketball movie nineteen ninety six, Eddie, directed by Steve

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Speaker 2: Rash Who might want to get that checked out? Uh?

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Speaker 2: This one stars the incomparable will Be Goldberg, who was

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Speaker 2: Filmed something like five or six movies that year, and

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Speaker 2: they all generally sucked. The IMDb synopsis for Eddie it's

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Speaker 2: one of the weirder ones I think we've shared. It

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Speaker 2: reads coincidences lead to the New York Knicks getting its

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Speaker 2: for this movie? What a weird movie. My first question tasks,

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Speaker 2: Because it is supposed to be a basketball comedy.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't very funny. I think there were.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't overextended. Great, that's just a great positive. I

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Speaker 2: like Trey, if you took away the cameos from this movie,

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Speaker 2: this is what I kept thinking about. Take away all

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Speaker 2: and take away all the broadcast cameos like Frasier and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 6: From the NBA, But if you take away the NBA

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Speaker 2: I also thought wild Bill was Sean Connery for like

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Speaker 5: Or no?

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Speaker 7: To never cross my mind. I watched half this movie

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Speaker 7: After doing some research, I was I was pleasantly surprised

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Speaker 7: from the NBA fans point of view, this movie is

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Speaker 7: And I think they kind of blew it in that sense.

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Speaker 7: It's just a tiresome piece of garbage really and it

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Speaker 7: actually tests. It hurt my viewing experience. Watching it on YouTube,

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Speaker 7: Release the thing on iTunes. I'll pay a dollar for it.

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Speaker 2: You know, why can't we Why can't you rent this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the most excited I got for this movie.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I want to I don't want to like

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Speaker 2: I found this out, that it took eight people GD

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Speaker 2: Eight people have rating credits.

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Speaker 7: On Yeah, and how well I dug a little deeper

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Speaker 8: It's crazy like this, this movie really made me angry

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Speaker 3: Talk it out.

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Speaker 7: I was just into it, Like I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: But it's just task you weren't buying it. The story

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Speaker 1: I think you've been a little too close to basketball

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're drinking the kool aid. No, it's not the premise.

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Speaker 8: It's desperate, you are, yeah, but yeah a fan being

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Speaker 5: Named the coach. And as a fan, Nope, I can't.

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Speaker 1: Even even in this stir crazy state I'm in, I

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Speaker 1: I'll watch this sure, low expectations, but nah, can't play that.

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Speaker 2: Lee, what do you think of the whole plot where yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, if that's all it took to coach the Knicks,

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Speaker 4: idea to just say, hey, let's just give someone a

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like it's sort of like, uh, in

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Speaker 7: Well in real life we had the zamboni driver go

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Speaker 7: I mean, so that's what I mean by plausible. I

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Speaker 7: it just it just I don't know, I was fine

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Speaker 2: We yeah, I mean I guess, but what, Okay, let's

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Speaker 2: talk about what the hell actually Eddie does to turn

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, JD. Plausible enough. You know the Ted

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Speaker 2: rigged the contest. We should have pointed that out, like

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Speaker 2: I think there's a goof in this movie. I read

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like one letter off or something. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: rest in peace. He is Stacey Patton, Rick Fox, Terry Hastings,

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Speaker 2: John Sally, Nate Wilson, Dwayne Schintsis. I know I'm probably

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Speaker 2: he is Eyvon make basket, He's the big Russian, Greg Ostertag,

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Speaker 2: sort of did like that little twist, like don't you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's strolling with John Sally the Spiders, like, we

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah she loses a ton of games. But

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Speaker 4: But what does she do?

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Speaker 2: What does Woopy do to turn this team around? Someone

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 6: And you know she just gives the general inspiration, right,

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 7: I mean, she says, right, when she first meets Wild Bill,

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Speaker 7: And it's you know, it's very simple. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 8: Have you tried that?

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Speaker 7: Rick?

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Speaker 5: But it's where you buying that plausibility.

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Speaker 7: She just happens to drive her around the owner of

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Speaker 7: You know that that's fine. I mean you need simple solutions. Again,

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Speaker 7: So you just you go in and you you fix

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Speaker 7: But again, it's a it's a blown opportunity. I want

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Speaker 7: Just make Lee bring him in there, and uh it

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Speaker 2: Okay, Lee, what would I mean? What would be your

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Speaker 4: I'm the player coach, so wow.

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Speaker 7: Go get it, forget it. You're fired.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I'm going in and I'm

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Speaker 4: I'd do the same thing if I was a play coach.

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Speaker 2: Would you walk into the locker room, into the shower

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Speaker 2: and point out how smaller are So I forgot about that,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, back to back movies with Penis Penis references Oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, Okay, back to her being a limel driver.

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Speaker 2: so they can I don't know why they're not just

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00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 2: listening to the radio with the actual professional broadcast, but

437
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 2: they decide it's got to be Eddie telling me what's

438
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 2: going on in this game. But yeah, I guess she

439
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 2: just sort of does both in a weird way. Or

440
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 2: maybe that's like that's I guess her bosses like, come on,

441
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 2: get out there and drive.

442
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 5: Uh.

443
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 2: I do have some trivia questions though, for you Lee, Okay,

444
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: what was Erold Monroe's nickname?

445
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 4: I mean in real life's the pill?

446
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 2: There you go? And how many consecutive games did dolf

447
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 2: SHA's play when he was with the Syracuse Nets.

448
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 4: Those are the two questions asked.

449
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 7: A date with Whoopee is on the line here lately?

450
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I died not seventy. I don't know.

451
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what the answer is

452
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: to that one.

453
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 5: I wasn't Yeah.

454
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, what a movie? What a movie?

455
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 5: Well?

456
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: What about the fact that they did pick a guys

457
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: who have had previous acting experience as basketball players? Nice

458
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: little positive there, John Sally and Rick Fox.

459
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't.

460
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 5: They didn't.

461
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 2: I think John Selly's fantastic actually in this movie. Yeah,

462
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: he's by far the best.

463
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 6: Same I was like, how come he doesn't have Rick

464
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 6: Fox his acting career they both launched it around this time,

465
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 6: and he's just so natural out there.

466
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, what a what a gift to the movie that

467
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 7: they completely squandered because he is really, really great. He

468
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 7: could have been the one that took Eddie under his

469
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 7: wing and just basically just told everybody, told her what

470
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 7: would the problem with everybody? And he kind of does.

471
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 7: But yeah, it could. He could have been the Yoda

472
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 7: of the movie, you know, like this is what you

473
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 7: gotta do. You gotta go out and you gotta you know,

474
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 7: believe in yourself or whatever, use the forest, go out

475
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 7: and change this team. But uh, and he has the

476
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 7: chops to pull that off. I thought he was great

477
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 7: in this movie.

478
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean he's is he not playing

479
00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: basically the exact same character as Tom Behringer in Major

480
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: League as a catcher Jack Taylor. I mean it's sort

481
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 2: of what he is. That's a great point, and he's

482
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: fantastic in that. And I do agree with you guys.

483
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 2: I think John Sally's awesome in this and I would

484
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: have liked way more John Sally in this movie. At first,

485
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: At one point I thought they were like, I thought

486
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: they were boning down for a second.

487
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 5: Edie got a little sensual, it got a.

488
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: Little central, and they were walking outside MSG that one time.

489
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why they call him the spider once you

490
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 6: get wrapped up in that web.

491
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 2: He was good. What do you think of all the

492
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: other you know, Rick Fox has been in a lot

493
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: of stuff. I thought he was fine in this movie,

494
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: I guess, But well, would you think of Dwayne playing

495
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: the Russian or Greg playing the dummy and all these guys?

496
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: Do you like any other of the rules.

497
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 6: I thought they were all pretty fair, to be honest,

498
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 6: I thought Dwayne Shintis did a great job carrying uh,

499
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 6: basically the comic relief of just having the same line

500
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 6: every movie, and then even when he speaks.

501
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: In Russian, he says the exact same thing. I thought

502
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: he did a fair job.

503
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 6: And I thought Greg Oster tag that scene where he's

504
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 6: trying to check in and he you know, he leaves

505
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 6: his pants on, then we see his ass that.

506
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: He falls over.

507
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 6: I'm like, that's just classic Oaster tag right there.

508
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: What a physical comedia.

509
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had.

510
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: He had a few lines in there, the old the

511
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: nineties questionable line in there when he tripped somebody called

512
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: him a retard.

513
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

514
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: And the fact that Whoopee was calling the team girls

515
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,239
Speaker 1: over and over and over and orion like he's Lee

516
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: Ellison twenty fourteen, over and over. What was the point

517
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: of that, like to put them down? I mean, is

518
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: that was that the the point?

519
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 4: Well?

520
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean did you notice did you notice how

521
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: many times? And I thought this was odd, how many

522
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 2: times wild Bill called Whoopie or Eddie little girl? He

523
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: says it all the time. I was like, yeah, but

524
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: you're right, then she does it to the team too.

525
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: There was a lot of this in the nineties.

526
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, No, I just thought it was a sort

527
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 4: of trying to motivate them, to try to say, oh,

528
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 4: your little girl, you know, stuff like that. That's the

529
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 4: way I took it. But yeah, the little girl stuff

530
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: as well. Was it does look pretty bad now, doesn't

531
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 4: all that mean?

532
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 5: Yeah?

533
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 4: You know at the time, and again it's a movie,

534
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: so you know, there's a there's a little bit of

535
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 4: leeway there, but it just it's sort of uncomfortable watching it,

536
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 4: You like, I can't really watch this and enjoy it.

537
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 4: I mean the movie sucked anyway, and that brought it

538
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 4: down another run.

539
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: But what about Scotti Burrell making another yeah, yeah, decade

540
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: of Scottie Burrell, quick.

541
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: Quick, yeah, what it was your favorite? Like, not the

542
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: guys that are on the Knicks, not actual NBA players

543
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: on the Knicks roster in this movie, but what was

544
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 2: your favorite other NBA player cameo? Because there was like

545
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: Brad Doherty and Avery Johnson, Dennis Rodman, I mean there was,

546
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: there was a lot. Did you have a favorite?

547
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: Tray Rodman was great, Spurs Rodman.

548
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 6: You even see Jack Hayley there, uh running up and down,

549
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 6: he sidles up next to Eddie. Bad shots, bad coach

550
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 6: would whoope chimes in bad hair, But at least I

551
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 6: look good.

552
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: I thought it was great.

553
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 6: I love seeing Dennis Robman, and I also loved the

554
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 6: olden polonies explaining what a black hole is.

555
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: That's the that's the best, that's the funniest part.

556
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

557
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: I thought some of those quips could have been a

558
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: little quippier. I mean, bad hair, I mean, why not

559
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: insult whoopies here?

560
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 5: I don't know.

561
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could. I was so disappointed that that was

562
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: the jokes they came up with, Dennis Rodman, that was it.

563
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: I mean, man, did they mail that in? Like yeah?

564
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: But I did like the old and polonies too. I

565
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: thought that part was funny.

566
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: It's good to hear Avery Johnson's voice again, the old

567
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: squeaker on the basketball floor.

568
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, we get a We got a weird montage

569
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: in this movie where the Knicks are starting to win.

570
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: This is, you know, after Eddie's had her sort of

571
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: heart to heart conversations with some of the guys and

572
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 2: she sat patten and all that, and the montage is

573
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: like the Knicks playing well, playing better, uh, spliced with

574
00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: Eddie picking male cheerleaders. Yeah, holy crap. I was like,

575
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: why what is going on here?

576
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 6: Well, you guys know, I was very happy to see

577
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 6: the macarena being done during that dance audition scene. But

578
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 6: I was not happy to see that move that the

579
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 6: guy who eventually one was doing where he had his

580
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 6: hands on his knees and he was kind of bringing

581
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 6: his shoulders forward. I was like, this is too much

582
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 6: like an actual insect.

583
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 5: Man, This is.

584
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: Just an odd, odd, weird It's so weird. So many

585
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: things and this is weird. Back to the whole Leelee's story.

586
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: JD Like, in real life, could an NBA owner hire

587
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: Lee Ellis to coach his team?

588
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 6: Is?

589
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: Like?

590
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: Is that legal? Like? Is there is there some like

591
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: weird coaches association that he would have to be a

592
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 2: part of.

593
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 7: You tell me, I mean, I don't know.

594
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you would. I think you would have

595
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: to be right, something like that would have to be

596
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 4: approved by the coaches Association.

597
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Really, that's what I think too. Yeah, you couldn't just

598
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: have Lee come in there.

599
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 5: I don't know.

600
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 6: As they said at the scorer's table, when Eddie's been

601
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 6: finally becoming the real coach, there's nothing in the rule book.

602
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 6: You can't change a coach right before the game, just

603
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 6: like there's no rule in the rule book that a

604
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 6: dog can't play basketball. Just like if a player hasn't

605
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 6: played in the tournament, you are allowed to play, just

606
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 6: as long as their name is written down. There are

607
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 6: a lot of rules that weren't covered in the nineties.

608
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 6: You know, I assume they've been changed in subsequent cbas possibly,

609
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 6: I will say.

610
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: Another realistic part of this unrealistic movie is David Letterman

611
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 2: hitting us with and the number one reason Eddie Franklin

612
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: has the Knicks playing so well right now co Ed Showers.

613
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: And the reason I say that's realistic because that's not

614
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: that funny at all. But the number one of the

615
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: top ten list was never that funny, right it was.

616
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Number two was always the banger. So I wonder what

617
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: they had for number two there anyway.

618
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 5: Didn't didn't number one? Did number one have to make sense?

619
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 6: Yeah?

620
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: But it always stunk, I remember, Yeah, it was always disappointed.

621
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: I thought it was always a gimme. It was a

622
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: softballs like, oh, yeah.

623
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: You're right, Joe doesn't make sense a lot.

624
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't really get it.

625
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: I guess they're just like a woman as their coach,

626
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: and they're all excited about it and they all shower together.

627
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 5: I know.

628
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: It's so weird.

629
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 7: I mean, if this movie was made today, you would

630
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 7: you would get a room full of comedians, like actual comedians,

631
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 7: hire them for a week and then just spitball and

632
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 7: come up with burns and jokes and and do all

633
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 7: that which they didn't bother doing. The only comedian that

634
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 7: they had on in the production was Whoopie, and I

635
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 7: love Whoopy Goldberg. I've never not liked her in anything

636
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 7: she's been in, no matter how bad it's been, including

637
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 7: this movie. But I never find her funny. Ever, she

638
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 7: is very charming to me, but I never laugh out loud.

639
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 7: She never, She's never made me laugh, but I do like.

640
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: Her right, Never offensive, never hilarious. Yeah, that's that's that's

641
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: right up the alley for sure. But you were offended

642
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: by Marv Albert. I need to go back to this

643
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: because I didn't mind Marv at the scorer's table whatsoever.

644
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 5: Why did Marv anger you?

645
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 7: I just found it. I found it very scripted and

646
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 7: very not real. And I've listened having over the years,

647
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 7: having listened to Marv call games, and he's just been

648
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 7: a ubiquitous part of our lives, and just to hear

649
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 7: him speak like this was just seemed really stiff to me,

650
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 7: like he was reading off of a script, which he

651
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 7: never sounds like that to me, So it was jarring

652
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 7: for me. Maybe I'm off base, I don't know.

653
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 5: But it's a good point. That's a good point.

654
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he's done it for so long that every

655
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: time he does something quote unquote scripted, it doesn't sound scripted, right,

656
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: that's true. This was probably his first read.

657
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 7: There was never There was never any point in this

658
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 7: movie that I didn't I wasn't one hundred percent aware

659
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 7: that I was watching a movie, do you know what

660
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 7: I mean? Which is not never a good sign.

661
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

662
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: And then the negative about having it on YouTube was

663
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: I was going over in a side window and watching

664
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: Dwayne Chintzis makes make some jokes when he was with

665
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics, like, I wasn't fully fully dedicated to

666
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: this movie whatsoever, So that I think that helped my rating.

667
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 7: Leelogies to Steve rash Geez cinematically experience Lee.

668
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: What did you think of the whole street Ball scene

669
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: where we get John Starks and Anthony Mason rest in

670
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: peace and a lot of NBA players in this movie

671
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: that passed away? Gary Payton plays Stace Patton one on one.

672
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, then we get the weird part where his

673
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: mom shows up. But what do you think of that

674
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: whole street ball scene?

675
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

676
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: I mean that was good basketball again, good atmosphere, good craft.

677
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: I was actually that was not good basketball. Gary Payton

678
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: is one of the greatest defensive players of all time,

679
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: and he gets blown by every single time for a

680
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: Stacey Patton dunk.

681
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he's like, if you would have put me

682
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 6: on Stacy Patten in the first three games, I would

683
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 6: have taken him down in one on one.

684
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: That's the I can't remember the address of the courts,

685
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: but I played there last year when I went to

686
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 4: New York.

687
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 5: It was great.

688
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: I mean, there was nobody there, but I played against

689
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: some kid. But it was fun. But yeah, Peyton had

690
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: a couple of floaters though, like he was okay, he

691
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 4: was just you know, he's not going to lock down.

692
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: He's not gonna lock down. Pattern in the movie'd be

693
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: great if he did, though, you know, and started talking

694
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: trash to him. Maybe that would have added a little

695
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 4: something to the movie if they if they actually let

696
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 4: Gary Payton play for real, you know. But yeah, I mean,

697
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: you know, it was fine basketball, I suppose. I mean,

698
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: it was just sort of thrown in there. Really at

699
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 4: this point of the movie, again, I'm just waiting for

700
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: a to end. So it's like you're just looking at

701
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: players and you're going, yeah, I know that guy. I

702
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: know that guy too.

703
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, next right, right, right, well, well let's get

704
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: to the ending of this movie. Sorry, because we get

705
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: the Hall. We find out that wild Bill has plans

706
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: to sell the team and to move the team to

707
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: Saint Louis. You're in New York, You've just bought the Knicks,

708
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: and there are winning games, they are maybe going to

709
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. And this guys, I don't know, he's

710
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: already thinking about selling them. It was I found that shocking.

711
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: You may want to keep them there in New York

712
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: and have a winning team. But so we find that out,

713
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: and Eddie, of course is you know, upset, and you know,

714
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: she I like this one line, this is my favorite

715
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: line from the movie. You don't own the Knicks. New

716
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: York owns the Knicks. So she basically tells me himself

717
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: when they're out there on the balcony. And but now

718
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: she's in the dilemma of if we win this final

719
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: game against the Hornets, we're in the playoffs, which means

720
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: then that sale is going through and the team's being

721
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: moved to Saint Louis. If we you know, we could

722
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: I could throw the game. We could throw the game

723
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: and maybe that sale doesn't happen. But talking, I mean,

724
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: and then we get everybody coming out of the court,

725
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: I mean, somebody else talked this out. This is an

726
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: insane ending. I hated the ending of this movie.

727
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I actually liked this movie for the first

728
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 6: two thirds, and then I started wondering myself, Man, where's

729
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 6: wild Bill. We haven't seen that guy for a while.

730
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 6: And then he shows up and he's trying to move

731
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 6: the Knicks. The insane possible ending that this could even

732
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 6: conceivably have, Like, the Knicks and the Lakers are the

733
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 6: two most valuable franchises in the league, largely because of

734
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 6: where they're located. Right, Like, every team basically moves away.

735
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: From Saint Louis.

736
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 6: So this guy comes out here, he brings his horse,

737
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 6: looking like Matt Austin. Yeh, wopping around with a horse

738
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 6: wearing basketball shoes. And we're supposed to I mean, he

739
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 6: burns down Walt Frazier's jersey the very first thing that happens. Yeah,

740
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 6: once he gets introduced, right, So we're supposed to know

741
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 6: this guy. This guy doesn't care about tradition, but supposedly

742
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 6: he cares about money, and he's trying to move to

743
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 6: Saint Louis.

744
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: Come on, Bud, Yeah, And all it took was you know,

745
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 2: Eddie going to half court basically telling the fans what's

746
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: going on, and everybody just storms the floor and like

747
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: lines up perfectly, and then he's like, okay, god, you

748
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: guys got me. You're right, We're keeping them here like nothing,

749
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: nothing happens to him in the end, Am I missing something?

750
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 4: Like?

751
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 7: While Bill just says last he lost, well.

752
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: He lost the sale. He's going to make way more

753
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: money in the field.

754
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 7: I know. Yeah, it's weird, and that a little correction.

755
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 7: He wasn't going to move the team. He was going

756
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 7: to sell this Who wanted to move it?

757
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: Ye?

758
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 7: So, and who would want to do that? I mean, nobody.

759
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 7: It's completely implausible. But yeah, the climax of the movie

760
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 7: is that, I guess, and then the Russian takes the

761
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 7: charge right.

762
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: Well, that I was going to say, the climax of

763
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: the movie is the second movie we've seen where the

764
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: game is decided by a charge. So, but this is

765
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: not to win the championship either. This is just to

766
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 4: make the playoffs. Yeah, so I'll give the movie credit

767
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: for that that it wasn't the championship deciding play that

768
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 4: we climbaxed on. Instead, it was just like, well, okay,

769
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: they're gonna make the playoffs. What happens then? You know,

770
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: so maybe they were thinking about the round.

771
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: I was.

772
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 7: I was actually when everybody was on the court like that,

773
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 7: I was, I was actually a little hopeful. I was

774
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 7: just does this movie have the balls to end in

775
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 7: a in a what's it called a defunct forfeit? Or yeah,

776
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 7: did they have the balls to end this sports movie

777
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 7: in a forfeit? I mean I would have been pretty ballsy.

778
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 7: I would have enjoyed that. Actually, it's like, you know what,

779
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 7: we were willing to miss the playoffs. We'll keep the

780
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 7: Knicks where the Knicks are supposed to be in New

781
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 7: York City, but you know.

782
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, or or like next level, allow the Hornets to

783
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: score like wide open, right like you said, same idea,

784
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: Let them win so we can lose, but keep the

785
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: team in New York. Yeah, yeah, that would have been.

786
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: It's surprised one of the writers didn't speak up and

787
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: throw that idea.

788
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 6: Is that they just went back to the classic basketball

789
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 6: movie trope of if you talked about a basketball strategy.

790
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 3: It has to pay off in the end somehow.

791
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 6: What coach is coming in to an offensive puddle and saying,

792
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 6: go right at the big guy.

793
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: He never plants his feet.

794
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 6: This man will never take a charge, and we're gonna

795
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 6: get a layup out of it.

796
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, Larry Johnson, I think he double dribbled

797
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: twice on. I mean, that was brutal. I know it

798
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: was loud. The way it was cut made it look

799
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 2: like he was doubling dribbling, but he did and instead

800
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: they called the charge and they they win and they're

801
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: headed to the playoffs to lose in four or five

802
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: games in the first round.

803
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

804
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: We talked about Eddie maybe having a little something, a

805
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: little something with Nate Wilson, with John Sally, who knows,

806
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: who knows? Maybe we're reaching here. I also want to ask, though,

807
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: did she have she has sex with Muggsy Bokes. She

808
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: was crushing on Muggsy even when and he's on crutches.

809
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe that's why he's in crutches.

810
00:37:53,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: It's possible. She was very, very friendly to Muggsy.

811
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: One other relationship I found out about doing some research.

812
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: In this movie, Yvonne takes a girl into his hotel

813
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: room when the guys are telling him p h a

814
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: t say, you're say she's fat pH at. That woman

815
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: is Vadi Devas's actual wife. On a devus An actress,

816
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: really really trivia there.

817
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 7: I hated that scene more than any other scene in

818
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 7: the movie. It was just so you got Eddie and

819
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 7: her hotel room, and then all all of the play,

820
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 7: the entire team is returning from the club or wherever

821
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 7: they're coming from the bar, and they just all decided

822
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 7: to well, it's bedtime, let's go. Everybody, bring your girls,

823
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 7: bring your drinks. We're all going to our separate rooms

824
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 7: at the same time. And the Russian just happens to

825
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 7: find the one Russian girl in the bar, and it's

826
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 7: just like, what, this is the laziest filmmaking I've ever

827
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 7: seen ever. Like it's just like, I understand their NBA players,

828
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 7: you got a budget, you gotta time restrictions, but goddamn it,

829
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 7: it's just this is ridiculous. I hated every second of

830
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 7: that scene.

831
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 5: It was weird.

832
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: If she's Russian, wise and he talking to her in Russian,

833
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: he can't speak English all that well, Like it wasn't

834
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: an American girl that would make sense.

835
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: You said there was a time constraint. I read that.

836
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson said he was on set for a month

837
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: and a half. Oh my god, I don't know how

838
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: that's possible, Like, I mean, unless he was just saying

839
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: he was in Charlotte while they were filming us for

840
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: a month and a half. And maybe I know he

841
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: was injured around the time too.

842
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 7: But oh my god, where did you find the information

843
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 7: on this movie? Because I could not find anything and

844
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 7: any articles anything Roger Ebert's review I couldn't even find,

845
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 7: so I don't know many.

846
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 5: One and a half stars Roger.

847
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah, this does not do well with the

848
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: critics or the fans. I would say. We'll get to

849
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: that later though.

850
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: Another relationship question was Eddie married?

851
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, okay, yes, she was to the copy.

852
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: Now did her so her father had died and her

853
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: husband had died?

854
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 6: That's the question, because like when she first comes down,

855
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 6: she's in that first huddle with the Knicks, she's talking

856
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 6: to John Sally, She's.

857
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: Like, I met my husband.

858
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 6: He was wearing your jersey, right, And then we started

859
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 6: her watching the home video of Clay Davis as a

860
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 6: cop coaching kids.

861
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah I guess he was dead. Yeah, I think.

862
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 7: So, because she does mention her husband was in the hospital. Okay,

863
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 7: and what I think there was a real throwaway line, right.

864
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 2: Why do I think her dad was dead? Then too?

865
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 7: I don't remember her dad. Maybe I thought it was

866
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 7: I thought it was her husband, but it was so

867
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 7: quick and I really only noticed it on my second viewing.

868
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 7: I can't believe I watched this thing.

869
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you.

870
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: Watch this twice? What's wrong with you?

871
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 7: I gotta talk about I got to talk about. Yeah,

872
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 7: and if I'm putting on my producer hat, like, my

873
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 7: first note is, we need to see this guy earlier.

874
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 7: We need to see the dead husband, like, not near

875
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 7: the end of the movie, at least halfway through the movie,

876
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 7: and it has to be at her lowest point, right.

877
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, But why why does her husband have to be dead?

878
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean because there's no real.

879
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: Like, it's not like. The other thing I can think

880
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: of is to show us, you know, just how invested

881
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: in the Knicks she is, because she's I don't know,

882
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: she's got no husband, she's got no kids to you know,

883
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't get the like, It's

884
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: not like it didn't feel like the team was filling

885
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: that void in her heart, you know what I mean?

886
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 7: If but it definitely could have felt that way if

887
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 7: we had been introduced to him earlier or learned learned

888
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 7: a little bit more about him. And also we should

889
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 7: have seen her The first scene of this movie should

890
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 7: have been her coaching.

891
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: The coaching totally, I mean totally.

892
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 7: That was the That was when I was like, Okay,

893
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 7: maybe this movie has got something. Maybe there's a little

894
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 7: bit of heart here, because I really love that scene

895
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 7: of of you know, I mean, it's cheesy and it's

896
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 7: a cliche, but it's like, why you mentioned my kid,

897
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 7: Well he got a d in English, blah blah blah.

898
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 7: But it shows that she's got heart. She cares about

899
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 7: more than just basketball more and and that would make

900
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 7: it a better movie. And that's why if she, if

901
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 7: that's what her approach of coaching kids is, she applies

902
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 7: that to coaching the Knicks, then you got a better movie.

903
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 7: I mean, it's still simplistic as Helen and totally you know, ridiculous,

904
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 7: but at least you have heart and maybe maybe I'm

905
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 7: crying a little at the end.

906
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: Oh wow, So you think there, Yeah, it sounds like

907
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: you think there's a strong foundation to this movie. It's

908
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: just they built the worst looking house ever upon it. Yeah, Okay,

909
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: let's get to some random observations. I'll get us started here.

910
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: You know, we said there's like seven or eight writers

911
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: whatever it was on this movie. I think I figured

912
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: it out why they had so many and where all that,

913
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: you know, that energy was being put into this movie.

914
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: I think it was writing the signs that we see.

915
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: Because I want you guys to tell me what was

916
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: your favorite sign in Eddie? Was it straight up nick stick? Okay?

917
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: Was it a little bit later eat them Alive? Or

918
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: by far my favorite? You really had to pause your

919
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 2: YouTube screen to see it up in the top when

920
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: she's headed up to the nosebleeds. I think it was

921
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: when they showed it. The sign read for this, I'm

922
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: missing Baywatch. That's a weird sign to take to an

923
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: NBA game, But people got to start taking that sign

924
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: to games.

925
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that was prime Baywatch times. That wasn't

926
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: it mid nine? He's had something. It was booming.

927
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: Why does it say for this, I'm missing bawatch instead

928
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: of I'm missing Bawatch for this? I feel like that

929
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: just makes a lot more sense. I got a few more.

930
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody else says back to her,

931
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: like the whole Limo thing and she's calling into the

932
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: radio station. She gets on the radio station so quickly

933
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: because she just says, put me on with this Putts.

934
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: And like the producer was like, we got a hot one.

935
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: That's all it takes to get on live radio, sports radio.

936
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: Put me out with this Putts. We got a hot one.

937
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: Get her on. And that's basically all I got. The

938
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: only other thing I wrote down was at one point

939
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: Eddie pronounces defense. She says defense like she's a character

940
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: on Oh hello. I just found that weird that she

941
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: pronounced defense in a very strange way. She actually fixes

942
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: it later in the movie. But yeah, any other random observations.

943
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 4: You must have been happy to say, Nick Mannix, we'll

944
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 4: get a couple of buckets at there.

945
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: I was indeed splashed a three to start basically this movie. Yeah,

946
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: I was very happy with that.

947
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I got.

948
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 6: There's the scene where basically the dance coach brings Eddie

949
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 6: out to dance with the team. All I could think

950
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 6: is which NBA coach would most nail a halftime choreography

951
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 6: he think's got the best moves out there? Oh wow, wow,

952
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 6: probably we've seen. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.

953
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 6: Like those karaoke things, kind of control in the room.

954
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: That's a good pick. For some reason. I don't know

955
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 2: if he'd be horrible or fantastic like sneaky great Dancer.

956
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: I got Rick Carlisle high on for some reason. Maybe

957
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: it's because I'm like rich great. Maybe I'm because he

958
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: looks like Jim Carrey. So I think he's bendable and

959
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: movie or something like that.

960
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: Sure, well, that's why they call Lloyd Pierce Limber Lloyd Pierce.

961
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: He's uh, he's bendy. No, they don't. They Definitely, I'm

962
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 5: taking I'm taking a Yeah, I think he is. I'm

963
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 5: taking a young man.

964
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: He's a Lloyd Pierce. That's a good question.

965
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: Lloyd Pierce out of Atlanta. He coaches the Atlanta Hawks.

966
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: If people don't know that.

967
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: The Hawks picked up a win in this movie, didn't

968
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: they early on?

969
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

970
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 5: I think so.

971
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 6: I think they got a blowout win if I'm not mistaken,

972
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 6: Like yeah, and he tries to give him a guilt

973
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 6: trip and it doesn't work. My funniest NBA cameo for

974
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 6: me was Joe Wolf shooting in the eighteen foot Jumper.

975
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 3: I was like, there you go, Joe, get some shots out.

976
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe Wolf looks like looked like he didn't know

977
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: he was filming a movie. Like he sort of didn't

978
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: really look like he knew what was going on. Maybe

979
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: he's that great of an actor. I don't know. Yeah,

980
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: the Hawks blowed him out. You're right. The Spurs win

981
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: h one twelve eighty nine, the Bucks win one twenty

982
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: six ninety three. I mean, this is the nineties, guys,

983
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: this is the nineties. Scores like that just didn't exist.

984
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty points. That's a lot of points.

985
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: So that's how bad the Knicks were. Anything else, tasks,

986
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: any other random observation.

987
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: Quick as you know, Mark Jackson the preacher didn't get

988
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: preachy at all, which I didn't mind. He just didn't

989
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: like the cursing. I think there was an asshole and Mark.

990
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 5: Was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm not going to

991
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 5: have that on my court. But he didn't really.

992
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: Get into anybody's face or anything. Didn't mind that. So

993
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, I like that. It wasn't over

994
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: the top, just like the Chris Berman multiple appearances. You know,

995
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: this wasn't Dick Vital and Love and Basketball, where you

996
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: get a three minute Dick Vital dietribe. This was Chris

997
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Berman was talking about the Knicks get they're getting better

998
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: and they could go all the way. You know, they didn't.

999
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: He didn't push it like that. Oh, it was just

1000
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: a quick, quick they could go all the way.

1001
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 5: So I like that.

1002
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: It was a little subdued, not at it all. And

1003
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: I like they referenced Woo Pie Goldberg's seats and how

1004
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: much they cost, and she's she said, they're like two

1005
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: thousand bucks, and that is bang on what seats would

1006
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: cost that at that point. We actually when I purchased

1007
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: seats in two thousand and one with a man Dave sentence,

1008
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: the whole package costs two thousand dollars exactly.

1009
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 5: So they're bang on.

1010
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 2: They might be a little bit more in New York

1011
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: when the Knicks were actually good too in the nineties. Yeah, yeah,

1012
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: but I agreed with that. I thought that too. I

1013
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: was like, no, not bad. I altual liked the little

1014
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: misdirect at the beginning of the movie when she sat

1015
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: with her friend down low and she was heckling her

1016
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 2: own coach on her team, and I was like, oh, okay,

1017
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: she sits there. Wow, Yeah, how much are those? And

1018
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: then okay they got booted, get them out of here. Yeah,

1019
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: they went to the Nosebleedes and you got the guys

1020
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: wearing the paper bags. That was realistic for Knicks fans. Yea,

1021
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: so I didn't mind that little part two. One more note,

1022
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: I wrote down, Oh my god, final game. Maybe they

1023
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: do it twice in the movie. But yeah, they do

1024
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: the weirdest huddle break yet in a basketball movie. We've

1025
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: seen ho ho ho ho ho. Yes, anybody ever heard

1026
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: that before?

1027
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 4: No?

1028
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 7: No, that was wasn't that her husband's thing with the

1029
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 7: kids on the Yes?

1030
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but why, I mean Tommy Motola playing Santa

1031
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: Claus over here?

1032
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: What's going on?

1033
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: I thought maybe they were playing against Scottie Burrell. Again,

1034
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1035
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:10,040
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1069
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Speaker 2: score on Rotten Tomatoes for Eddie eighteen percent. Yes, I

1070
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: believe that's the lowest we've had in film session. Audience

1071
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 2: score not much better based off of twenty five thousand

1072
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: user ratings thirty six percent. So yeah, this is this

1073
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: is This is rough. This is rough I saw. I

1074
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: just wanted to share this with you guys. I don't

1075
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 2: know why this made me laugh. I found this one

1076
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: review of this movie, and I laughed harder at this

1077
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: review than the actual movie. The person wrote quote, I

1078
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: have a friend who mentioned that she'd been looking for

1079
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: a used copy of this movie for her collection, and

1080
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 2: I found one by accident at a flea mark it

1081
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: the other day. I had not seen the movie, and

1082
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: I wondered why, out of all the movies that a

1083
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: person might possibly want in their collection, she wanted this one.

1084
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Speaker 2: So I decided to watch it before sending it on,

1085
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: with the excuse for opening it that I wanted to

1086
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: make sure it was still watchable, being as some of

1087
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: the movies I found at flea markets have proven to

1088
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 2: be well worn out copies on occasion. Well, there was

1089
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: nothing that I did not predict way before it happened

1090
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: in this one. It was an enchanting story, but nothing

1091
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: about which to think deeply. I did notice a veiled

1092
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: feminist vein in the premise, and I suppose this is

1093
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: what my friend saw that made her desire this movie.

1094
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: It will not bore you, but I doubt you would

1095
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: find yourself wanting to tell everyone to go see this

1096
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 2: one either. I hope my friend is happy with her gift.

1097
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: That's the review from this person. That's it. That's where

1098
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: it stops. So what a weird one? Anyway, tasks how

1099
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: you grading Eddie?

1100
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 5: Well, I was happy to see one.

1101
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson host up at the end and out of

1102
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: five Mark Jackson butts down low in the post give

1103
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: me two out of five Mark Jackson's that's four out

1104
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: of ten cheeks. I guess just two out of five,

1105
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: two out of five. MJ going down low preacher man,

1106
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not a critic. I guess I'm right

1107
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: in line with the fans scored there.

1108
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: That's right, Uh, Leley, what do you think?

1109
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: There are three types of whoopies in this world? Whoopy Goldberg,

1110
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 4: whoopee pie, and the whoopee cushion. I gave this movie

1111
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 4: a whoopee cushion.

1112
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: Did not like it?

1113
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 5: Eh?

1114
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: Right, Trey, why are you greatness?

1115
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 6: I can't deny it. I enjoyed watching Eddie. I can't

1116
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 6: say anything to the contrary. The first two thirds of

1117
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 6: the movie, I was just happy to be seeing Whoopy again.

1118
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 6: I was happy to see in all these basketball players,

1119
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 6: and I remembered why as a young child, as a

1120
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 6: twelve year old, would want to see this. That being said,

1121
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 6: it completely falls apart with the cartoonish steal the team

1122
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 6: villain right. It's basically the exact same plot as a

1123
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 6: Major League, except for Major League was super funny, and

1124
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 6: you can imagine a team moving away from Cleveland. A

1125
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 6: rich businessman would never have the idea of trying to

1126
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 6: or any businessman try to move away from New York City.

1127
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 6: That doesn't make any sense to me. I guess it's

1128
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 6: the only way you can kind of get us against

1129
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 6: them mentality. You have to be fighting against the owners.

1130
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 6: That being said, I think you're right, Skeets. I think

1131
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 6: the reason that this movie is so hard to find,

1132
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 6: and they're so hard to find any information about it

1133
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 6: is because the Knicks don't want fans to actually do

1134
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 6: this and occupy Madison.

1135
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: Square Garden because that is something that might actually work

1136
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: to get some movement in the front office. So you know,

1137
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 3: I like the first two thirds of the movie.

1138
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 6: I'm giving this twenty eighty seven hundred Stacy Patton dollars

1139
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 6: out of forty two thousand.

1140
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not bad.

1141
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: JD.

1142
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 5: What do you think.

1143
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 7: I think that this movie has good bones. I think

1144
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 7: that they could have made this a decent movie anyways,

1145
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 7: an NBA fans wet dream, but they just it fell short.

1146
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 7: So out of five NBA fan wet dreams, I'm gonna

1147
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 7: give it zero.

1148
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: Oh well, not even a one for the bones.

1149
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 7: Not even a roman now, because I'm angry that they

1150
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 7: messed it up. They had something you know what, I

1151
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 7: respect things. If you have a bad premise and you

1152
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 7: and you screw it up, that's one thing. But if

1153
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 7: you have a really good, not really good, but a

1154
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 7: decent premise, something that you could make work, and you

1155
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 7: mess it up, then then I cannot forgive that.

1156
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: So zero, Okay, Okay, that's rough. I'll grade it a

1157
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: little bit better than that, not much better. Yeah, we've

1158
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: talked about it. It was a six writers, seven writers,

1159
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: eight writers who ultimately cares there's way too many writers

1160
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: for what we got from this movie, because there's not

1161
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 2: a lot of funny lines in that. And that's saying,

1162
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: you know, I do like Whoopee, and I think the

1163
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 2: NBA players cameos are. I don't think they're that bad.

1164
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: In fact, I think John Salley's quite talented. So I'm

1165
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna grade this two out of eight Eddie

1166
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: writers because I like some parts and I think maybe

1167
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: Tass is right. The more I think about it, it's

1168
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: just like, oh, that was cool to see basketball for

1169
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: a little bit. That was sort of nice, and then

1170
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: all the other stuff going on in this movie. The

1171
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: ending is absolutely atrocious, and I'm glad you said it.

1172
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: There Trey. I did like wild Bill in his fine

1173
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: his fine suit with the I don't know, like sort

1174
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: of diamonds rhinestone is on it, and he's got the

1175
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: white cap. He did look like Matt Austin in our

1176
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 2: Extreme Horse video. So I like that part too.

1177
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 6: Just like Matt Austin, he was always doing something with

1178
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 6: his hat. It's like this guy is always putting on

1179
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 6: his hat and so at some point it's true.

1180
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a weird think of Eddie not that high

1181
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: on it. Maybe you disagree with us. Let us know

1182
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: on Twitter at No dunk Sinc. Hashtag No Dunks or

1183
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: email us get your questions and comments and too for

1184
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: Beach Step in next week No Dunks at the Athletic

1185
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 2: dot com. What movie should we do next? Gentlemen?

1186
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 5: Is the run?

1187
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: Out there? You guys really want to tackle?

1188
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 7: I'd like to do a good movie. That's all requests. Well,

1189
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 7: it's not gonna be Nancy over here.

1190
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean, what are good basketball movies? He

1191
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: got Game? A lot of people like he got Game.

1192
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 7: Never seen it?

1193
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: Okay, you know Hoop Dreams. That's a documentary, so it's

1194
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: a little different. Well, let us know out there. I

1195
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: know there are other somewhat good movies. I think he

1196
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: Got Game would probably be on a lot of people's lives.

1197
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: We have so many people stop telling us to watch

1198
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: Space Jam. By the way, oh my god, not watching

1199
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: Space Jam.

1200
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 6: I mean I got Space Jam earlier in the Quarantine

1201
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 6: because I wanted to show the girls, you know, Michael

1202
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 6: Jordan and Bugs Bun all this kind of stuff. But

1203
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 6: I also, at the same time was taking notes the

1204
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 6: entire time, so I don't have to watch it a

1205
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 6: second time if we ever get.

1206
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's smart. Okay, okay, well, let us know

1207
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: what movie you want us to watch next in film

1208
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: session at no dunk sy clipper ros. You heard it

1209
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: here first, have a great time, turn up, love you guys, awesome.

1210
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us.

1211
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: And remember this would be the point that I quote

1212
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: something from the movie. But looking up and down here

1213
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: not worth it.

1214
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: Embrace the day, people.

1215
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 4: You could stay.

1216
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 5: Every day, I'd be happy every minute. It's been so

1217
00:58:41,880 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 5: long that your funa already it's gonna be gravy.