1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Get hold of. 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: Birthday boy. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 3: Happy birthday from yesterday, Todd Father. 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 4: That was thank you, thank you. It was good. It 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 4: was good. Wife. 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 5: He threw a surprise birthday party. Man, really classy, good 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 5: call by Jack. I appreciate you, love you, Hunt. But 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 5: it was a solid, solid time man, big four oh Man, 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 5: welcome to the forty club. 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: You look good. He looks good. 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 6: Crats, I didn't get I mean forty. I didn't realize 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 6: you were forty. Man, You're on another level. 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: You're on another level. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 6: I thought you were still still super young. You got 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 6: them fake pearly white. 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Tell Jackie, Tell Jackie. I didn't get tell Jackie. 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: I didn't get a text. Man. 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: She just texts me now. 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 5: She said for some reason, he said, call couldn't go 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 5: through for some reason. 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 7: I don't know. 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: Oh, bad network network, tough service in the sticks. 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: Sorry about it, but anyway, everyone wished Todd Father a 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: happy birthday. 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Now let's go over the ABS 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: Challenge system information that has been shared and Jeremy running 44 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: point behind the scenes. 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: Here you can just start to put up what we have. 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: I'll read it to set the scene for our guys, 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: a few little intricacies of the rules, and then we 48 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: can react. So this from Alden Gonzalez. New Wrinkle with 49 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: MLB implementing the ABS Challenge system for the regular season 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six. In extra innings, teams will have 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: at least one ABS challenge. So if a team has 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: zero after nine, boom, you get one for the tenth. 53 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: If you lose that one in the tenth, you get 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: one again for the eleventh inning. So that puts you 55 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: in a position where, of course, if you feel like 56 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: you got screwed on a pitch, you didn't run out, 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: you didn't have to save, you got another one that 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: pops up per extra inning. Let's stop there for a moment, actually, 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: so we can react to it, and then we'll keep 60 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: going with some of the other rule implementation pod fither 61 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: sounds good to me, right, You get a little extra 62 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 3: something when you're an extras where, of course every pitch 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: counts throughout the game, but one pitch could decide the game, 64 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: and you don't want to be without a challenge. 65 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I. 66 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 5: Think you'll see during those innings, you're gonna see a 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 5: challenge every inning. 68 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 4: And excuse me, it's integral too. 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 5: At the same time, it's like that first pitch, all 70 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 5: of a sudden, am I going to use it? You know, 71 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 5: stolen base attempts that have said, for example, I don't 72 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 5: know it's gonna be hard, but at the same token, 73 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 5: I think it's the right decision because you want to 74 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: get it right, and I think that's the biggest part 75 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 5: of baseball. You want to get it right, especially late 76 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: in the game when a run or a pitch or 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: you know, a certain kind of ordeal that happens during 78 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: the game is right. And you see that happen in 79 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 5: other sports too, where they have you know, the same 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 5: kind of deal. You lose a time out or whatever 81 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 5: it is, but the focus is on getting it right. 82 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: And I think this is this is the first start 83 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 5: of it and the exciting part of it because you're like, 84 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 5: people are gonna be watching the like challenge it though, 85 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 5: oh they should have challenged it back boom, and then 86 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 5: next thing you know, they save it or they lose it, 87 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: whatever it is. So yeah, I think it's the right call, 88 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 5: and I think that's how it should be. 89 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: I completely agree. 90 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 6: I think at the end, I mean, I think at 91 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 6: the end of the game is when you have to 92 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 6: get it right. It's that's the whole point we're not 93 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 6: looking for. And if you look at the numbers, like 94 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 6: in the minor leagues, I think it's fifty percent challenged 95 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: fit position players fifty percent were right, Like I think 96 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 6: in the big leagues in spring training it was like 97 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 6: fifty two percent. This is just taking care of the 98 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 6: egregious calls. This is taking care of the agreed people 99 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 6: are gonna complain because just like a tiny little tenth 100 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 6: of the ball touched the box. Yeah, okay, but we're 101 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 6: not gonna have egregious calls at the end of the 102 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 6: game when somebody throws one ninety nine two balls off 103 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 6: the plate like, no challenge, boop, take care of it. 104 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 6: That's that's that's the excitement of the extra innings. That's 105 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 6: the excitement of x RA innings plus the challenges. 106 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: I love it. 107 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: Next up, those challenges are not to be used when 108 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: the game gets silly position players in the game. Now, 109 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 3: game's done from the league. This from Jesse Rodgers ABS 110 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: Challenge presentation. So they did a presentation to some media. 111 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: One interesting thing will be when an ABS challenge and 112 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: a video challenge. Oh this is something else, just so 113 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: you know. One interesting thing will be when an ABS 114 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: challenge and a video challenge occur on the same play. 115 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: This could happen on stolen base attempts for example. First, 116 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: the ball strike call will be decided then the challenge 117 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 3: on the basis so just some clarification, right Kratz. Little 118 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: things are gonna pop up or you're gonna be like what. 119 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: So they went over all the scenarios and there it 120 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: is for that one sounds. 121 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, if you want. 122 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 6: I mean, I guess people haven't gone to minor league games, 123 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 6: but they really kind of laid this out in the 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 6: minor league games, and I think they've I think they've 125 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 6: kind of iron things out because they've tried it, They've 126 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 6: tried different iterations of it, and you know, these are 127 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 6: all things that Now the biggest thing is when there's 128 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 6: like a challenge, let's say a stolen base happens, you 129 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 6: have to wait till that challenge is over. But the 130 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 6: umpire can still judge, oh, were you getting help from 131 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 6: the dugout? Did the dugout relay anything? Because there's a 132 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 6: delay there. So I think it's a it's it's a 133 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 6: part that we'll still have a little bit of consternation, 134 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 6: a little bit of pissed off players in certain situations. 135 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and this this is the part where it's like, okay, yeah, 136 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 5: balls are strying. Now you give a little extra time, right, right, 137 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 5: Scott if I'm not mistaken, Will they get extra time 138 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: and they have to say it right. 139 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 4: Then and there whether they want to review it? Do 140 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: we know that by chance? 141 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: Hey, sometimes we do a little game on foul Territory 142 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: called role play. 143 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: It's not what you think. 144 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: We're just picking up our phones and we're talking as 145 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: if we're somebody in base. But if you'd like that 146 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: phone to be a little bit cheaper for making phone calls, 147 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: who should you call? 148 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: Krats? 149 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 6: Mintmobile because you get all the same speed with a 150 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 6: tiny little. 151 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: Price, same coverage, tiny price. 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Everybody's watching. 170 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 6: There's a little bit of time there to make that decision, 171 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 6: you know, Todd, Like any little bit of timing is different. 172 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 6: You still have to say. You can't go, oh, well, 173 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 6: we're going to challenge the out or safe call at 174 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 6: second base, and then as that's happening, you can't go like, hey, 175 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 6: I want to challenge the strike call too. No, no, no, no, 176 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 6: that doesn't that timing doesn't change. What they're going to 177 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 6: do is if the out call is what would end 178 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 6: the inning and not the strike call or strike three call, 179 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 6: then they challenge that. They show that they take that 180 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 6: challenge first. If it's a strike three call, they don't 181 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 6: challenge second base. Is how is how it works, because 182 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 6: there's no story and base attempt. If strike three is correct, 183 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 6: if it's wrong and it's ball three, then they can 184 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 6: challenge the stolen base. Just little things that that go 185 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 6: with timing, and. 186 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 4: It's gonna happen. 187 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 5: It's gonna happen, and we're gonna be like sure, wait, wait, wait, 188 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 5: who goes first? 189 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: Let's go back and read the rules. 190 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 5: So yeah, hopefully it happens in spring training so we 191 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 5: can go over at one time. 192 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: I think that would that would help a lot of people. 193 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: I agree. 194 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 6: Before you go, Scott, this is twenty fourteen is when 195 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 6: they implemented replay. We are we open the season against 196 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 6: the Rays. I'm with the Blue Jays Salve butere Drew 197 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 6: but Terra's dad. Not anything with Blake Butterra. This is 198 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 6: a different Salve. Butterra is running the replay room with 199 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 6: a couple other guys with the Blue Jays. First batter 200 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 6: of the year, Jose Reyes. He hits one center fielder 201 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 6: I'm not even sure who center fielder in fourteen for 202 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 6: the Rays was, comes in, dives, makes the play. I'm 203 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 6: not sure if we should challenge. Everybody looks over Posey 204 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 6: Rayis pulled his hamstring running the first base on the playoff. 205 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 6: Everybody's panicking literally, first play of the season couldn't have 206 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 6: gone worse. 207 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: So, yeah, you wanted to iron out in spring training? 208 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: Oh sway, And there are many spring training games to 209 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: be able to hash this out with. So you'll pick 210 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: up on any issues or any learning experiences for teams. Right, 211 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 3: If anything big pops up, we'll learn about it. Okay, 212 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: Next up this I mentioned briefly. No challenging of pitches 213 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 3: when position players are pitching, yes, he put thankfully. 214 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: Trash? 215 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 5: What's trash? 216 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: Todd? 217 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 6: Todd, are you gonna face the position player this year 218 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 6: in the season? Probably you play every day. You're not 219 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 6: going to count that at bat. Don't worry about it, it 220 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 6: doesn't matter. Just do whatever they want. 221 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 222 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 4: I don't like that at all. 223 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: I don't like it at all. 224 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 6: This is not This is not people say it's one 225 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 6: or two at bats a season. Okay, Todd, are you 226 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 6: gonna give away in that bat this year? 227 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: Never? Never? 228 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't like that. 229 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: I don't. 230 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 5: I don't agree with that one at all either. Why why, 231 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 5: just why somebody comes into a meeting and they're like, oh, oh, 232 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: just so you know, I thought about this one too. 233 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 5: Forget about when position players come in so we can 234 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 5: get the game going faster. 235 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 4: Come on, yeah, I didn't. 236 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: Like that, but you guys are also now, in my mind, 237 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: discrediting the ump, like, let's not act like it's going 238 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: to be a billion wrong calls. 239 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 5: Yes, but yes, dude, they they give the they give 240 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 5: those guys a little bit bigger zone because they don't. 241 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 4: As many strikes. 242 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 5: So that's where they need to implement it more with 243 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 5: the position players throwing. 244 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: In my opinion, save all your challenges for the twelve 245 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: two game, and you can tell Key k her Nandez 246 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: that breaking ball is not in the zone. 247 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 5: You I know what, Scott, it's funny that you do say. 248 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 5: It is funny, but at the same time, there's no 249 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 5: time to be like, oh, just because the position player's pitching, 250 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 5: you're not allowed to do a challenge, Like come on, dude, 251 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 5: I struck a guy out and it was probably you know, 252 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 5: the guy came to me and said, oh, it hit 253 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: the box. It looked like it was a ball to me, 254 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 5: but he would have definitely challenged that pitch, is what 255 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 256 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: Adam Duvall, Sorry. 257 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: Okay, fine, fine, I'm with you. You get your challenges. 258 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, two things. 259 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: One, you know what I mean, you don't. The league's 260 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: not gonna let you. But one, like krat said, every 261 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 3: ab should count. Why because most of the league now 262 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: is judged by number systems. The number systems are going, Wait, 263 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: there were caveat, there were three at bats against the 264 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: position player this year. That doesn't matter. 265 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: Right, We're in the same boat. 266 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: When we evaluate players. We're trying to be quick, and 267 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: we'll throw numbers out. Here's his ops, here's ops plus, 268 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,239 Speaker 3: here's a slug. Those numbers don't differentiate for a particular 269 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: at bat. 270 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: So I'll give you that. That's fair, I understand. 271 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: Plus, have we ever had a position player pitching a 272 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: game and then, you know, for a team that's getting 273 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: smacked and then that team ends up coming back? Are 274 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: just counting the game as nothing most of the time, Yes, 275 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: but it's not crazy. 276 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 6: This is this is my only example. In twenty seventeen, 277 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 6: I spent the entire season triple A until September. 278 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I got trade to the Yankees, and. 279 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 6: I got six at bats, five at bats against position players, 280 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 6: six at bats against relief big league relievers. I went 281 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 6: six for six against the big league relievers. I went 282 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 6: zero for five against the position players. Now that's me 283 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 6: because you know, I sucked and I was, you know, 284 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 6: trying to do too much when I was playing against 285 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 6: those guys. But it's those at bats counted the exact same. 286 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 6: I remembered it because we tracked it. It was something 287 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 6: fun and funny that we were doing. But when you're 288 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 6: talking about guys' livelihoods in a twelve to two game, 289 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 6: guess who's coming in. Dudes that don't play a lot. 290 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 6: They're not like God, you played every single game. We're 291 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 6: keeping you out there so you can face Chris Heisei 292 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 6: pitching off the mound, so you can face a Uhenio 293 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 6: Suarez throwing the last inning. No, they put the bench 294 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 6: guys in. So that's where that's where my that's where 295 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 6: my argument is. 296 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I thought that one's going to be ten seconds 297 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: and turn it into a few minutes, and I'm good 298 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: with that. 299 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: This is your show. 300 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: I'm just here to point guard it and act like 301 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: the occasional uninformed fan. 302 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: One more for you. Let's look at the zone itself. 303 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: So Jesse Rogers from the presentation, I've been in some 304 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: of these before. 305 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: The league will put like a. 306 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: PowerPoint together, put a lot of slides together, Google slides 307 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: whatever it is, and they'll lay it out. It's usually 308 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: really well done. I actually really enjoyed those. Jesse said. 309 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: The difference in the strike zone now with the challenge system, 310 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: it's a little smaller than the umpire called zone. So 311 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: we see the ABS zone it is a square. We 312 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: see the umpire called zone that is a circle. Hum 313 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: different geometry, Krats. Do you want to explain as a 314 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: catcher how this is going to affect many lives? 315 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: Just learning? Todd? 316 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 6: Basically, it's over hundreds of thousands of pitches and just 317 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 6: over history, umpires call a circular zone. Whether you know 318 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 6: there's there's so many like is it the catchers? Is 319 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 6: it the fact? Is it the fact that you know 320 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 6: your vision is not in a square and it's hard 321 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 6: to see the points. There's so many theories behind it. Essentially, 322 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 6: they came up with that over hundreds of thousands, maybe 323 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 6: even millions of pitches, that that's like the standard zones. 324 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 6: Some guys dev eight smaller, some guys deviate bigger, a 325 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 6: little more down, a little bit more away. Whatever it is, Yes, 326 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 6: it's just gonna be learning. It's gonna take my opinion, 327 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 6: I think it's gonna take two seasons for hitters to 328 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 6: learn this, for hitters to learn that is an actual 329 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 6: square and where that is. And I think hitters will 330 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 6: learn it sooner than sooner than you think. But I 331 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 6: also think hitters are going to just it's gonna take 332 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 6: time to figure that out. And this picture doesn't show it, 333 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 6: but if you read the article it talks about it's 334 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 6: fifty three percent of your height is the top of 335 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 6: the zone. And that's the part that's I think people 336 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 6: are gonna be very confused at and very like unaware of, oh, 337 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 6: well that is a strike, and then there'd be ones 338 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 6: that aren't a strike. And the other part is the 339 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 6: depth of the strike zone, which they've changed since they 340 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 6: started doing the ABS in the minor leagues. Where is 341 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 6: that depth point? Because that depth is they had it 342 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 6: at a different point on the plate, and there was 343 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 6: pitches that were not touching the ground but almost touching 344 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 6: the ground that were hitting the ABS system and it 345 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 6: was called a strike. I think they got it figured out, 346 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 6: but even that's going to be something new, a caveat 347 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 6: a you know, a little intricacy for big leaguers and 348 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 6: big league catchers, big lely hitters and big league catchers 349 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 6: to figure out. 350 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you see the corners were never called really, 351 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 5: so that was on that on that square when the 352 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: circle it was more in and out, more up and down. 353 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 5: But you know the four quadrants, the four corners there 354 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 5: never were rarely got called. 355 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: So those are the ones. You know. 356 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 5: If you can give me a one box real quick 357 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 5: here by myself, I can show kratzy or cratzy, you 358 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 5: understand if the right hand is up so on this 359 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 5: side no, yeah, this side boom, you're trying to get that. 360 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: You're trying to get that top right quadrant here right, 361 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 5: and that's the pitch move over where you can up top. 362 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 5: But your glove keeps going a little. You catch it 363 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 5: and try and bring it back. And now an umpire 364 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 5: sees that and he's like you were trying to steal 365 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 5: a strike when it was actually was a strike. So 366 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 5: Sam is down low in the other other corners. So 367 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 5: just depending on where your position. But I wish they 368 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 5: would take away the box and just just have him 369 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 5: throw it. As a fan, you watch, oh, I think 370 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 5: that got it, you know what I mean, instead of 371 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 5: you know. 372 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: Saying, oh, the box didn't get it. 373 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: So now it's not a strike because umpires have a 374 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 5: different box than what we're seeing on TV. At least 375 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 5: that's what they told me when I played. 376 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's true. 377 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: But I'm going to present the other side as a 378 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 3: fan who did not play anything close to Major League Baseball. 379 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: I am obsessed with the box. 380 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: If you take the box away from me, or you 381 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: even faded a little bit, I'm pissed. I understand that 382 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of variance, but I want to 383 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: see the box. I want it there, so it I 384 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 3: think it helps a lot. 385 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 5: I'm not mad that it's there, but if they did 386 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 5: get rid of it, I'd be like, Okay, cool. 387 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: That's because you played the game. You're just eye testing. 388 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 3: You know what stuff looks like. And maybe you like 389 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: a little bit of surprise in your life where you're like, 390 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 3: I don't know where that clipped. You just had a 391 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: birthday party, surprise. I'm not a surprise party guy. 392 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 5: By the way, I had a facial too this morning. 393 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 5: My wife got me a facial man, first time Jersey 394 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 5: Shore facialist. 395 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 4: Thank you girl. 396 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: That's it's not your first time you. 397 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 5: No, no, not my first time. But it was a surprise. 398 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 5: I didn't know I was getting it this morning, So we. 399 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 6: Have so many surprises. Ken was in surprise and was 400 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 6: in surprise strike zone. The strike zone is not going 401 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 6: to be a surprise anymore. So yeah, no, I like it, 402 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 6: but no, I would love to have the overhead camp. 403 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 6: I would love to have not the side angle because 404 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 6: watching on TV, I need that box. I need the box. 405 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 6: I love the box. I love when they don't have 406 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 6: the box up. But then it just shows where the 407 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 6: ball was in the strike zone, like it just you know, 408 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 6: gives like the circle the curf filled in for a 409 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 6: strike circle, you know, an open circle. 410 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: Ball Like I love that. 411 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 6: Because we're talking about pitches that are fifty to fifty 412 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 6: the abs, you're just not going to Umpires are going 413 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 6: to get half them wrong. Players are going to get 414 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 6: half of them wrong. So those aren't going to change. 415 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 6: It's the egregious ones. That's the only reason we have this, 416 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 6: and that's why I love it. 417 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: One more layer Cratzy. We're a catcher for a long time. 418 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: Some pitchers have impeccable control. For some it's like a 419 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: video game. 420 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: Yep. 421 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: They know the assignment. 422 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: Now, not for every pitch, because you can't challenge every 423 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: pitch but they know the assignment. 424 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: And if you're a pitcher, aren't you. 425 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: Looking at that picture that Jesse Rodgers posted where the 426 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: circle turns into a square and you know the spots, 427 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, I mean, of course it varies based 428 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: on which hitter you're facing, strengths, weaknesses, et cetera. But 429 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 3: you've got a little bit more of a game plan 430 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: target wise in your head where you're like, I know, 431 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 3: to a t where that zone should be right with 432 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: the square versus the circle, and a little bit more 433 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: variants with the gray area. 434 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: Of the zone. 435 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: What did we call it? What did we'd been calling 436 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 3: it the buffer zone? Right, we don't have that anymore so. 437 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Trash top buffer zone. It's a striker. It's not a 438 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: strike like that buffer zone is trash. Here it is. 439 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 6: Here is the strategicy, the part that is it going 440 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 6: to change the game. No, dudes are still going to 441 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 6: get jobs because they throw ninety nine miles an hour. 442 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 6: But there is a value for the dudes who can 443 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 6: tickle the top and they can get the bottom corner 444 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 6: and the guy who can figure out, you know, my cutter, 445 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 6: I'm able to throw that up and in where it 446 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 6: does touch the top of the zone inside, but it's 447 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 6: got to end up a little more on the plate. 448 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 6: My cutter never is able to stay in the zone 449 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 6: long enough to be able touch upper upper quadrant or 450 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 6: the down and away quadrant. So there's going to be 451 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 6: strategy for a handful of guys. And those handful of 452 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 6: guys they might be able to find value in this. 453 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 6: They might be able to find you know who, who 454 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 6: is that guy? Is it a guy that used to 455 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 6: throw ninety eight? Now he's throwing more like ninety one 456 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 6: ninety three. But he's able to take He's able to 457 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 6: take some of the advantages of that zone and use 458 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 6: it for his advantage. 459 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 3: In conclusion, after what I thought was a very informative segment, 460 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: just now we finished with a tie. Each of you 461 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: used one fake word. For Crats the word was strategicy, 462 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: and for todd father the word was intricately. So you 463 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: guys tied. Good jobs doat one one one more introcral? Oh, 464 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: intricral still not a word, so integral strategical, I don't 465 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: think so. I have a lot of AI in my 466 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: world these days. 467 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: Definitely fine. 468 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: Spell it for me, Todd and I'll I t. 469 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: Integral o r T O I M T E D 470 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 4: G r A. 471 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: L oh integral. You said intrical integral, Yes, essentially, R 472 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: I C A l introcral. Yes, that's not a word integral. Yes, 473 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: but we just rolled back the tape and we heard intricole. 474 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: I had recently used the word intricate, so it could 475 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: just be a little bit of word. 476 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 4: Sometimes my t e rs go tru instead of ur. 477 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 478 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 5: That's the Jersey part of me. Okay, integral, I said 479 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 5: integral instead of integral. 480 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: Judges rule Olympic Judges. 481 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 4: Said that word again. He is about it. 482 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 5: We need somebody to use figure out the words we use, 483 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 5: like at the end of the show, what we got wrong. 484 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: You know, try to do more of it. 485 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: As you know, I've been working with you guys for 486 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: years and I just say whatever. So I'm just like, 487 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to chime in as stat boy nerd boy. 488 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: I like I like the word monolithic. 489 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 6: I've always liked the word monolithic, and I try to 490 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 6: use it in as many sentences as possible. 491 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: What does it mean monolithic? 492 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, one singular, like one singular object, like a like 493 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 6: a large rock. 494 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: Monolithic. 495 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 3: Wow, that was actually beautifully when when I put it 496 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 3: in my eye, the first thing that popped up was 497 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: a single solid piece of stone. 498 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: Beautiful. Yeah, I swear A plus A plus. All right, 499 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: you are now for prepared for your SATs. Let's move 500 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: on to a trade. Aja. 501 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: You know what I love about Hello Fresh the variety. 502 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: Every single week I can choose from over one hundred recipes. 503 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 2: That's a lot of recipes. 504 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 8: Agreed, you can go and you can narrow it down, 505 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 8: Scott to whatever you want. Family friendly because you know 506 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 8: I got kids sometimes the need to eat, so you 507 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 8: can go family friendly, pescatarian, vegetarian, whatever you want to do. 508 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 7: Healthy options. 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They have this surplus with their infield. 523 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: They also are still trying to clear some money, perhaps 524 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 3: to make some more moves. 525 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: They bring back. 526 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: Joey Lo Pervido Low Perfido from the Blue Jays. Remember 527 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: he was involved in the USA Kukuchi deal a couple 528 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: of years back. Jesus Sanchez going to Toronto Chandler Rome 529 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: of the Athletic and crush Shitty Territory telling us that 530 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: it's a money saving move. Sanchez is owed six point 531 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 3: eight million dollars. Joey Lo Pervito is making less than 532 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 3: one million dollars. She's making the league minimum, which is 533 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: seven hundred something thousand dollars. Low Perveto's pumped because he's 534 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: already in that organization. It's like you got to go 535 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: for the ride with the Blue Jays into experiencing a World. 536 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: Series in Canada. 537 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: But now he goes back to Houston, where I think 538 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 3: he might get himself more playing time. 539 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: Sanchez definitely a platoon guy. 540 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 3: Also helps Phil avoid maybe left by Santander out there 541 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: and the Blue Jays can mix and match a little bit, 542 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: and they can certainly afford the contract, not that the 543 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: Astros can't. Kratz on the other side. Here, you have 544 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 3: a surplus for the Astros, so you still wonder if 545 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: something's cooking. We're getting a lot of rumblings. I think 546 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: Chandler puts something out there along the lines of expect more. 547 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 5: So. 548 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: They are very active right now, and you keep thinking 549 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: that it involves the sock paratus because of the infield surplus. 550 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: Even Carlos Correa was asked about the situation, he said, 551 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: we have a lot of people that could potentially be 552 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: used in trades later on. I'm not a GM, but 553 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: I know that only four infielders can play at a time. 554 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 3: You have to make some move put some people in 555 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: the outfield have depth. So Cray had said, with the 556 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 3: owner that we have, we're not going to make our 557 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: team worse. Everybody knows that when the Astros make a move, 558 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: it's to make players better and make the hem better 559 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: and that might be the case. I will say, I'm 560 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 3: trying to get all this stuff on the fly. Jesus Sanchez, 561 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: when he joined the Astros, they were pumped to get 562 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: him for the misbalance that they had left you righty 563 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: in their lineup. 564 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: That was a big story over the years. But he 565 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: did not perform well with Houston. 566 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: So if your owner, Jim Crane, Kratz, and you're a 567 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: baseball super fan and you invested in Sanchez last year 568 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 3: and didn't work out. 569 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 6: Or like bait it, I like, I'm just gonna go 570 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 6: by what Carlos Correa said. Carlos Correa was one hundred 571 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 6: percent brought back here now that Dana Brown didn't like him. 572 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 6: Jim Crane loves him. I have heard Jim Crane say 573 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 6: it when he and I were talking back and forth 574 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 6: years ago, and how much he loves Carlos Correa and 575 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 6: everything that he embodies and how he you know, just 576 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 6: how he handles himself. So yes, Carlos Correa said, I'm 577 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 6: not a GM. Carlos Correy is talking to the guy 578 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 6: who ultimately makes the choice of how much money is spent. 579 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 6: And this is a money move, and this is also 580 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 6: a move that it was one of those things where 581 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 6: Low Perfido when they traded him. I remember reading an 582 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 6: article from the Astros and I wish I'd kept better 583 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 6: notes like Scott does. They really didn't want to get 584 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 6: rid of them. It was more of the like, okay, 585 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 6: like it's fine, like we're adding, we're adding what we 586 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 6: wanted in Kokuchi, but we really like Low Perfido and 587 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 6: you don't usually hear that from organizations. So for him 588 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 6: to go back, I've heard he is just one of 589 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 6: the nicest dudes. He's gonna get more playing time than 590 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 6: he did with the J's and he had a great 591 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 6: year with the Jays. So the J's were like, hey, 592 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 6: I know, we didn't use him a lot and we 593 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 6: have a surplus, so I guess, I guess we'll get 594 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 6: rid of them. But it's also a case where hey, 595 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 6: sus Sanchez just didn't He wasn't drinking the secret sauce 596 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 6: in Houston. It just didn't work out. 597 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: Some trades. 598 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 6: Some guys go places and the isn't always there, and 599 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 6: that's okay, so good for them moving on. But I 600 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 6: think there's another move. What if they went and got 601 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 6: Gallon too, What if the parades thing I don't know. 602 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 6: I just I feel like there's something more than just ah, 603 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 6: we gotta get rid of Paradis and you know, continue 604 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 6: to add to our to our outfield, you know, mix 605 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 6: what if they do something out of the ordinary. I 606 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 6: know they don't like the whole qualifying offer connected to him. 607 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 6: It just feels like Houston's lingering for something. 608 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: I have one other idea before Todd jumps in. 609 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: Everyone can add to their bullpen Josh Hater dealing with 610 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: the bicep thing, just keeping an eye on it. I 611 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: think Michael Kopeks still out there, and there are a 612 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: few other names too. Did they add a reliever? 613 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: No, yeah, they could. 614 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 6: They could, but that's not like they're not making moves 615 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 6: to add Michael Kopeck. They could add Michael Kopak yesterday. 616 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: Why you think he's gonna demand at this point? 617 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: You think? I don't know it? 618 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: And a large amount. 619 00:30:59,160 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: What's large? 620 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: I mean is he going to command one year seven 621 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: million bucks, which is around what Jyzus Sanchez was making. 622 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 3: So this is my one thing that I do think 623 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: the Astros look at is the luxury tax number. They're 624 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: usually dancing right below or above it, and they like 625 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: to stay in that range. Jim Crane essentially treats it 626 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: like a salary cap, not a hard cap, but it 627 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: is a soft cap. They keep themselves around that range. 628 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: So I could see that happening. 629 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: Again. 630 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: This broke right before the show, so I haven't done 631 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: my nerdy homework, but just throwing that out there, you 632 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: could see an arm like that. Added, there's still guys 633 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: out there that are going to command multimillion dollar contracts. 634 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just to jump in, Like when someone 635 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 5: says they're not done yet, maybe it has something brewing. 636 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 5: There's talks going on where it could lead to something. 637 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 5: I mean usually when somebody says they're not done yet, 638 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 5: there's something in the background going on. But there's plenty 639 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 5: of guys out there that are itching to get a job. 640 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: So this is the time as. 641 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 5: Presidents, as gms that go out there and bey, hey, 642 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 5: take it or leave it. This is what we're gonna 643 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 5: give your guy if he wants a place. IF's not 644 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 5: you know, I hate to say bargains, but people need 645 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 5: to People have livelihoods and they got it. They want 646 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: to play, so got to feed the family. So these 647 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 5: could be some shorter not as much money for some guys, 648 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 5: not as many years for a couple of guys and 649 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 5: spot fillers that they're gonna be like, you know, it's 650 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 5: a major league deal. I didn't want to I didn't 651 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 5: get the money I wanted. I've been a part of that, 652 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 5: and it's it stinks, but you got to find a job. 653 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: The one thing that just keeps bothering me is that 654 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: I feel as if the Ashlers are trying to get 655 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 3: Escoc Paratus in Houston for years and then he's the 656 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: name that's being floated around in trade rumors, and they 657 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: have some guys who are getting up there in years. 658 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: It just seems like such a classic case of I'll 659 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 3: just throw this out there. Let's say Krag gets hurt right, 660 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: and then you're like, oh man, this team is maybe 661 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: gonna make the playoffs by a game or two. They 662 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: really need something. Oh wait, they need Escoc Paradus that 663 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: can just pull dingers in that ballpark and beat up 664 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: the Crawford boxes. Still would love to see another full 665 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: season of him out there. I get the logjam, and 666 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: Krey is going to be the guy that's going to 667 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: play every day until something happens at third. Jeremy Payne 668 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: had short I'll two ve at second, I think some 669 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 3: Bryce Matthew's over there too. 670 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: And then first is for Christian Walker. It's tough. You 671 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: can't have Paradis on the bench. 672 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: You can't keep him. You can't. 673 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 6: Sorry, it's not that's not how that's not how it works. 674 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 6: Maybe you can have seven or eight really good starters, 675 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 6: you know, starting pitchers, but when you have a guy 676 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 6: who should play every day, there's other ramifications to it. 677 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: Do you know do you know Correy is not going 678 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: to play every day? Do you know he's gonna get hurt? No, 679 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: you don't know that. Do you know that Christian Walker 680 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: is not going to get hurt? No, you don't know that. 681 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 6: But you can't have your organization. Can't one pay a 682 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 6: guy that much to see on the bench who is 683 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 6: an All Star last year? And two what does that 684 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 6: look like for other guys who go and sign places? 685 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 6: Oh what's gonna happen to me? If I sign here 686 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 6: and I had a good year and they're not willing 687 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 6: to get rid of me? Like there's there's a little 688 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 6: bit of a not saving face, but a you know 689 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 6: the look, what does it look like to the rest 690 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 6: of the league If they keep a guy like Parades 691 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 6: on the bench. 692 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 2: It looks like you have an embarrassment of briches. 693 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 4: I know, I know. 694 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: It just sucks. 695 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: I wish that they that this team didn't have a 696 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 3: logjam just because one of the most extreme pool hitters 697 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 3: in baseball with the Crawford boxes is. 698 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: Just fun, easy math to root for when you're a fan. 699 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: Of where Bill, when we need them? 700 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 3: What come on, man, why you gotta do that? We're 701 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: gonna have this clip later. 702 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: But yes to Boston. 703 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna happ and now because I 704 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: guess they consider durban and everyday guy. 705 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 2: But I think that will walk through nice. Oh gosh, 706 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 2: I agree. I agree. 707 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 3: Okay, here's another guy who's up for grabs, Nick Castianos. 708 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: So we talked about him on yesterday's show, and then 709 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: by the end of yesterday's show he had been released. 710 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: We learned about the beer incident. Some fans went after 711 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: us on social media. I'm sorry, I'm going to stand 712 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: by this one. I know that some teammates were pissed. 713 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: I still don't think it's that big of a deal. 714 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: So John Hayman said, there's a lot of interest in 715 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 3: Castianos now that he's about to be free teams apparently 716 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 3: we're waiting for the expected release, and Isaacazout from fish 717 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 3: On First said, the Marlins do not have interest in 718 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: Nick Castianos, per sources, Well, there are many other teams 719 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 3: good good thing. Just want to make sure that Marlins 720 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 3: fans are Awarecrats that your team is again not going 721 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 3: after a player. 722 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: Don't worry. They don't like free agency. That still remains 723 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 2: the same. 724 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,479 Speaker 1: It's not a free agent. It's not a free agent. 725 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: What can can we put that tweetback up? Can we 726 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: put that tweetback up? 727 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 6: Because if I had like a good like a the 728 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 6: Marlins do not have interest in winning, per sources, is 729 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 6: what they meant, not Nick costs. 730 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: No, they just don't believe. You don't need, you don't 731 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 3: need free agents to win, Cracks. You can build everything homegrown. 732 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: You don't. 733 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 6: You don't need they have good players, like everyone's gonna 734 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 6: get after us because oh they got so much pitching, 735 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 6: death and depth and they have so much to offer, Like, okay, 736 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 6: then build around it. If you have this incredible build up, 737 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 6: not even build around it. Build something something I think 738 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 6: I read this morning seventy eight million dollars is their 739 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 6: current payroll what it would be opening day if nothing changes, 740 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 6: and Nick Costianus would be seven hundred and eighty thousand. 741 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 6: I think the minimum is seven eighty or maybe seven 742 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 6: to twenty. I'm not one hundred percent sure. So the 743 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 6: Phillies are on the hook. And I said it before, 744 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 6: I'll say it again in Philly everybody in Philly. I 745 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 6: even got put on a radio My clip from our 746 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 6: show here got put on one of the local radio 747 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 6: stations and they spent a whole segment about it about 748 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 6: how wow, how could he say something like that? How 749 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 6: could he say Nick Costianos is a valuable piece. We 750 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 6: don't know exactly what went on, the whole beer and 751 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 6: the dugout thing, and then somebody saying what he did 752 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 6: was disgusting, like all the things that are are being 753 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 6: bantered around right now, like just pump the brakes. Wait 754 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 6: to ask somebody who was actually there, like Nick Costianos 755 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 6: and not just like some of the rumor stuff. But 756 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 6: he can be a valuable piece to a team. Is 757 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 6: he going to be a superstar? 758 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: No. 759 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 6: Twenty twenty three was the last time he got MVP votes, 760 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 6: but that was as a Philly His tenure in Philly 761 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 6: probably isn't as bad as the way it ended up 762 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 6: here is his defense declined? Yes, but can he help 763 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 6: a team one hundred percent? 764 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 5: Like, I'm just confused because I really I love the guy. 765 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 5: I think he's a great dude, but he's he's also 766 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 5: a really good player. He's I feel like he's getting 767 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 5: the bed end of the stick over here in Philly, 768 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 5: and I think a change of scenery might kickstart him 769 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 5: back to being the player that he is. Man, Listen, 770 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 5: everybody's strong minded. The strongest people in the word have 771 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 5: the world are the best minds. They can trick their 772 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 5: mind of being comfortable with being excited, being positive. But 773 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 5: if more stuff goes, it builds once you get home 774 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 5: you think about it. Everybody's human, So I think the 775 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 5: human side of him he needed to go just to 776 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 5: get away from all the craziness going on and all 777 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 5: that stuff. But I feel like he would help any 778 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 5: ball club he would get on the right path, and 779 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 5: I think people would love him because you know, I've 780 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 5: heard nothing but really good things about him and the 781 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 5: way he plays the game. I love his attitude, I 782 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 5: love his energy, a spark and that little arrogance in 783 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 5: the best way possible. 784 00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 4: I love that too. 785 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 6: I Mean there's also articles out about Otto Kemp when 786 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 6: he got called up, how much he helped him, Like 787 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 6: if a player makes more of a positive impact on 788 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 6: your team than a negative impact. I think at the 789 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 6: league minimum, I think there's a lot of value to 790 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 6: a lot of different teams. It'd be very interesting to 791 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,479 Speaker 6: see not only who picks him up, but the fact 792 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 6: that he gets to choose. Now, who picks him up, 793 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 6: he gets to choose because it's just a matter of hey, 794 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 6: what team, So, yes, is his most value as a 795 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 6: DH for some team? Probably does he still feel like 796 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 6: he can play right field? So maybe a team that 797 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 6: says we'll let you play eighty games in right field, 798 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 6: We'll let you play one hundred games in the outfield, 799 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 6: you're not just gonna DH. Maybe that's where he goes 800 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 6: and it might not be the place that everybody thinks. 801 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, and last thing, like you think of I Henningo 802 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 5: Suarez talked about him, and remember when we had forget 803 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 5: voting on I said, hey, the Reds would love to 804 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 5: have him a good pick up. He kind of, like, 805 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 5: you know, shushed it off a little bit, not being 806 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 5: rude about it, but reds end up picking him up. 807 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 5: Nobody really saw that coming. So like, there might be 808 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 5: a team out there, like, dude, this guy can have 809 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 5: a resurgence and all of a sudden we give him, 810 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 5: you know, a little bit of money and next thing, 811 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 5: you know, kick start back his career. 812 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 4: I agree totally. 813 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 3: Well, the league looks at players mostly the same way, 814 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 3: and his defensive metrics are not good. You can argue 815 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 3: it however you want, they're not good. Most of the 816 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 3: league is going to want him to primarily be a DH. 817 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 3: He actually said earlier this offseason he would explore first base. 818 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 3: Maybe that's a spot that he starts messing around with 819 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 3: in spring training. I think he's at a prove it 820 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 3: point where a team's gonna say, I don't know, you 821 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: probably are going to DH. We can mess around with 822 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: first You might not play a lick of outfield, or 823 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 3: if there's injuries, you might play a little bit of outfield. 824 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 2: But I know you have a chip on your shoulder. 825 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 3: You've provided mostly above average offense over the last five years. 826 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: You are a timely hitter. If you watch him on 827 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 2: an everyday basis. 828 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 3: Nobody's saying this is a superstar, but this is a 829 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 3: guy like these guys are saying that he can contribute 830 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 3: to a team that needs some more offense. 831 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 2: So krats for me. 832 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 3: I think if I'm Nick, I'm like, dude, I don't 833 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 3: care what you do with me. I just want to 834 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 3: go Rake and playing the All Star Game in Philly 835 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 3: this year? 836 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: Such a your side? What is that called? 837 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 6: It's not trolling, but you're trolling. You're you're you're living 838 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 6: for that moment. You want to see every every two 839 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 6: for three game that Nick has this year. Scott's going 840 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 6: to be like, let's get. 841 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: The voting going, Let's get the voting going. 842 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 6: No, I yeah, that would be that would be nice, 843 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 6: That'll be would be sweet revenge, I guess you would say. 844 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 6: But I think he's got a lot. I think he's 845 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 6: got a lot to prove, and I think some of 846 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 6: the things that just have circled out there. How many 847 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 6: times has Nick really gone through struggles? How many times 848 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 6: in his career as a baseball player, not his life 849 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 6: his career as a baseball player. He was a massively 850 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 6: hot super prospect coming out of high school, made it 851 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 6: to the big league super early, and has had success 852 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 6: a lot along the way how to kind of re 853 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 6: re up his value part way through like rate at 854 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 6: free agency, and then he cashed in. So it's like, 855 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 6: you know, how do you handle those how do you 856 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 6: handle those setbacks? Is it time for a comeback? We'll 857 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,479 Speaker 6: see in twenty twenty six. 858 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to read an excerpt from an article that 859 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 3: mac elb from The Athletic wrote. This was the article 860 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: that drove I think Castiano's writing about the beer into in. 861 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 2: Miami last year. 862 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 3: The article, by the way, if you want to check 863 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: it out, how the Phillies one hundred million dollar marriage 864 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 3: with Nick Castianos ended in divorce. I want to get 865 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 3: player perspective here because I'm getting a little bit of 866 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 3: shades of Adam Laroche. Young fans, you can look up 867 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 3: that story, google him. Here's from the article about four 868 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 3: hours right, So Todd, you got your first up here. 869 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 2: Let me cue you. Ready. 870 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 3: About four hours before game two of last year's NLDS 871 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 3: Castianos's final home game, a Phillies coach through batting practice 872 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 3: to Nick son Liam while some Dodgers players were on 873 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 3: the field doing pregame preparations. Real Muto waited to take 874 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 3: early batting practice. The same pregame hitting sessions carried over 875 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 3: to Dodger Stadium, where Liam joined his father on the 876 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 3: field before more playoff games. The Phillies had entered the 877 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 3: series not expecting Castianos to be a factor, and injury 878 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 3: to Harrison Vader forced him into action. Castianos had two 879 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 3: hits and fifteen avs. He drove in the team's lone 880 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,919 Speaker 3: run in that heartbreaking eleven inning defeat in Game four 881 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 3: that sent the Phillies home. Afterward, he sipped on a 882 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 3: beer inside the losing clubhouses. Everyone reflected on what was 883 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 3: and what was not. By then, there was no love lost. 884 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 3: The Phillies knew their marriage with Castianus was ending playoffs. 885 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 3: Kid on the field, BP, is that okay? 886 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine? 887 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 2: I do. 888 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 4: I think it's fine. Maybe he could have picked a 889 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 4: different time to go. Maybe that. 890 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 5: That's the only problem I have with that. Make sure 891 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 5: you know when you're on there, nobody else is supposed 892 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 5: to hit. If a guy is supposed to come in, 893 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 5: Hey guy, Hey Liam, we got to get off the field. 894 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 5: That kind of deal I will never not side with 895 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 5: with a family member trying to have his boy on 896 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 5: a field in a major league field working out having 897 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 5: a good time. But also I will always side with 898 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 5: the professional that needs to get his work done as well. 899 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 3: But but they said real Muto was waiting to take 900 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 3: early VP. Again, like this is you know a ton point. 901 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 3: Nick will come on the show. We can talk to 902 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 3: him about this, because this could be like one disgruntled 903 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 3: person or person in the organization. That's probably where Krats 904 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 3: is going to come in being like, oh, let me 905 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 3: get him, let me go after him. 906 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: So I'm just presenting what is out here right now. 907 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 2: He's gonna talk. I'm sure he'll come on here and talk. 908 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 5: If this was the true story and how everything unfolded. Hopefully, 909 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 5: while I talk, I sound like I understand. M two 910 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 5: comes up, Hey, big guy, we got to get off. 911 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 5: He's taken early BP. Let's go to the cage like 912 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 5: something like that probably should have happened. Yes, of course 913 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 5: the baseball player should get precedents of that. He's trying 914 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 5: to win as the playoffs. The beer thing, when you lose, 915 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 5: grab a beer, talk to the boys. What the hell 916 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 5: is that crap about? I mean, come on, man, like 917 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 5: that right there, putting in a beer after you lost, Well, 918 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 5: that's what. That's what guys do who like to drink 919 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 5: beer after a game, poor themselves. Whatever they're drinking, sip 920 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 5: on it and talk about what. 921 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 4: Could have been. There could have been, so should have 922 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 4: that part. That's bogus. 923 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 5: They shouldn't have put they put that in there for 924 00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 5: people just be like, oh, and did you hear about 925 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 5: him drinking a beer too? 926 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: That's well, I will say this pot let me. 927 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 4: I don't agree with that one at all. 928 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 3: I agree we're on the same page with that beer 929 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 3: in the clubhouse. That was kind of relating to the 930 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 3: beer in the dugout incident. 931 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 2: So just to I heard that, we're taking it. Yeah, 932 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 2: you saw that he. 933 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 4: Brought not the only one, not the only one to 934 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 4: ever do that. That's just what he got picked up 935 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 4: because it's it's here. 936 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 5: People are trying to find more crap and make it 937 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 5: seem like he's worse of a person for doing that. 938 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 3: Okay, every Joe Schmoe fan is acting like, you know, 939 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 3: he broke the holy rule of bringing. 940 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 2: A beer into that's where That's where I goug out when. 941 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 3: He was taken out of a game and we talked 942 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 3: about it live reacting to it yesterday and and I 943 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 3: got the uh the Straight Edge Brigade online being like, 944 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 3: how dare he? You guys are defending him because he's 945 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 3: come on the show before. I was like, I don't 946 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 3: give a shit. It has nothing to do with that. 947 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 3: I just know that there's probably hundreds of players who 948 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 3: have brought a little sip of alcohol into the dugout 949 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 3: after they're not in the game, or even some pictures 950 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: when they're not pitching in that game, like a starter. 951 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 2: So I know enough. 952 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 3: You guys know enough, right, But Krats the floor is yours. 953 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 4: Hey. 954 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 6: I won't comment more on the we hit the beer 955 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 6: thing plenty yesterday. I love the fact it was a 956 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 6: presidente and if you get an actual presidente from the 957 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 6: Dominican oh, I mean, it's almost like yeah anyway. But 958 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 6: the whole hitting on the field thing, I'm in agreeance 959 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 6: with Todd that, yes, families should be able to do 960 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 6: things you should be able to But there is zero 961 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,959 Speaker 6: chance that JT. 962 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: Real Muto was standing there like how Matt painted it 963 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: in that in that article. 964 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 4: J T. 965 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 6: Romutto wasn't standing there like, Oh, I guess, I guess 966 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 6: I'm not going to go watching these guys interact, watching 967 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 6: how different guys interact with the with each other on 968 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 6: the Phillies team. It really is like a family and 969 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 6: they've been there together. Was Nick taking you know? Was 970 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 6: he saying, hey, you know what, this might be my 971 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 6: last time that he gets to hit with me on 972 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 6: the field as a Philly. Maybe maybe he knew, you know, 973 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 6: his time was coming to an end. But I need 974 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 6: to see the fact that JT real Muto was being 975 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 6: put out because because of Liam hitting, like Liam hitting 976 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 6: before early work, like early work is happening, like when 977 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 6: pictures and catchers are out there stretching, when pictures are 978 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 6: getting their long toss in before before visiting, before home 979 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 6: team batting practice. So I don't think this was as 980 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 6: big of a deal. It was just more of a 981 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 6: It was another story that until JT comes on and says, dude, 982 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 6: I was I was put out because of that. That 983 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 6: banged up my entire rest of my routine, or Nick 984 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 6: comes on and goes like, yeah, Liam was hitting, like 985 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 6: it was totally finn Like I wasn't taking up any time. 986 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 6: Like that happens a lot, and I think that should 987 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 6: always happen. 988 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 5: Agreed, and to button it up. If JT was really waiting. 989 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 5: Even if JT and Nick had a problem with each other, 990 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 5: you have to let the guy go with it like 991 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 5: that's I just can't see that happen in that way. 992 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 5: And if it did, then that's news to me and 993 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 5: everybody in the baseball world that that happened. 994 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 3: We're gonna hear more about this. At some point, Dave 995 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 3: Dombraski was asked about this. I watched the back and 996 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 3: forth with media because Philly media was doing a really 997 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 3: nice job trying to get answers, and Dave was just 998 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 3: basically saying, listen, it was seven months ago, and I'm 999 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 3: gonna let Nick handle the rest. So I'm like, okay, 1000 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 3: I hope Nick comes out and talks about it at 1001 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 3: some point, you know, when he's comfortable to go over it, 1002 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 3: he'll sign and then we'll figure it out. 1003 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 6: Sorry, one last thing, I got a call after I 1004 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 6: talked about the whole Knick situation from somebody with the Phillies, 1005 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 6: And yes, the situation what I had said was a 1006 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 6: dress to me, but it was also then added on 1007 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 6: to that the fact that you know, there's certain things 1008 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 6: that certain guys handle in certain ways, and it was like, okay, 1009 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 6: was it just the beer in the dugout situation. No, 1010 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 6: was it just the Liam hitting and j t Romuto 1011 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 6: standing there. No, this was something that was brewing. And 1012 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 6: like I think, whoever talked to Matt Gelb, or maybe 1013 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 6: Matt Gelb saw it and saw it a certain way 1014 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 6: because things have been brewing. 1015 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: Things have been brewing. 1016 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 6: And to me go back and look at what he 1017 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 6: did throughout his four years, his three years of his contract, 1018 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 6: three of the four years, I don't think it was 1019 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 6: an awful contract. There's much worse contracts out there. Right now, 1020 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 6: let's put it that way. 1021 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 2: It was four years because it was a five to 1022 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 2: one hundred, right. 1023 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: Years, Okay. I thought it was four years. 1024 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 2: Last year because he had one year left. 1025 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: I think offensive. Look what he did, m h. 1026 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 3: He did some things, okay, And I think the league 1027 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 3: evaluates a player like him differently. 1028 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 2: Now is that right or wrong? I don't know, but 1029 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 2: totally right. 1030 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 3: You get you get destroyed on a war number for 1031 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 3: defense these days, and if you're out. 1032 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: There, he doesn't. 1033 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,760 Speaker 6: He doesn't control his zone very well. He doesn't control 1034 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 6: his zone very well. He strikes out like nobody's denying 1035 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 6: his deficiencies. The reason they came up with the acronym 1036 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 6: war wins above replacement. The replacement player is the guy 1037 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 6: coming up from Triple A. Literally my career, I am 1038 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,879 Speaker 6: the replacement player. My career numbers are rate at zero. 1039 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 6: It's negative point one is my replacement number. So I 1040 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 6: am the replacement. Is Nick Costianos on every day of 1041 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 6: the week and twice on Sundays better than me. Yes, 1042 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 6: So that's why, in my opinion, he should be on 1043 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 6: a big league team giving you one hundred and sixty 1044 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 6: two games. 1045 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 2: Not a replacement in our heart. 1046 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 3: Okay, next up, I mean that was great. I really 1047 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 3: enjoyed that segment and hope everyone else did. To let 1048 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 3: us know, if you're watching this afterward, drop a comment, 1049 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 3: yell at us, do whatever you want. That calendar is 1050 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 3: sizzling bout Territory Spring Training Tour. 1051 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 2: We have one more show. 1052 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 3: We do have a show on Monday, okay, and then 1053 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 3: the spring training tour begins. AJ will be here doing 1054 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 3: Monday show. I actually don't think I'll be on Monday show, 1055 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 3: but AJ will be there. Krats will be there. Oh 1056 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I take ten days off the show 1057 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 3: the whole year. So Royals camp on Tuesday Royals camp 1058 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 3: on Tuesday, Guardians Wednesday, A's Thursday, Dodgers Friday, Mariners Saturday, Sunday, 1059 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 3: Rangers camp and then there are a ton of other 1060 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 3: teams were hitting. I think about twenty five teams on 1061 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,839 Speaker 3: a five week tour. So if you want to see 1062 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 3: the rest, then have fun. 1063 00:52:59,440 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: Uh. 1064 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 3: Tricia Whittaker hosting on Monday, and I heard it could 1065 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 3: be a very special episode Buck Show, Walter joining and 1066 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: we might have like a semi live audience. No promises, 1067 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 3: but Tricia Whittaker hosting on Monday. I had one other thing. Oh, 1068 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 3: Roman Anthony added to the WBC. He's going to play 1069 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 3: for Team USA in place of Corbyn Carrol if he 1070 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 3: passes the spring training physical. 1071 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 1: Twenty pounds of muscle. 1072 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 3: Twenty pounds of muscle twenty pounds. I'm not saying he 1073 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 3: got heavy, but twenty pounds of pure muscle. Maybe that's 1074 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 3: a technicality and I'm being a nerd about it. So 1075 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 3: enjoy the weekend everyone, Todd Father's birthday weekend continues. 1076 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 2: What other surprises will he have? 1077 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I got a big dinner tomorrow. Valentine's dead Man, 1078 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 5: my money, my buddy came through Mark, Thank you. 1079 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 2: I love it. Crawts Hats on the way out. 1080 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: No very Orange. 1081 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 3: They got a shout out today for Miles Michaelis, who said, 1082 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 3: if you back up enough as a bass. 1083 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 2: Coach, you might as well. That was the line of 1084 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 2: the show. Happy Friday people, Happy Monday. 1085 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 4: Happy Birthday. Have a good day. 1086 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 2: H