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Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's Voice News. This is Sunday the

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Speaker 1: Road Forward. Thanks for joining us. We have a new Pope,

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Speaker 1: and his leadership. Also, all eyes are locked in on

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Speaker 1: the Middle East. This past week, President Trump has been

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Speaker 1: running at warp speed with strong leadership. He is again

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Speaker 1: in the Middle East and there's a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: What does all this mean as we look to the future?

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Speaker 1: And May is Mental Health Awareness Month. All this and

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Speaker 1: more coming up on this edition of Sunday the Road Forward.

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Speaker 1: As always an incredible lineup with a word of hope

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Speaker 1: and encouragement for you and those you love, especially in

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Speaker 1: these challenging, difficult times. I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be

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Speaker 1: your host our special guest joining us this week. He's

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Speaker 1: the President of American Values and Senior Vice President Republic

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Speaker 1: Policy for the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. Gary Bauer

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Speaker 1: is back with this. He's the lead pastor Pathway Church

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Speaker 1: in Mobile, Alabama. Pastor Travis Johnson is back with us.

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Speaker 1: She is the bestselling author of the book and film

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Speaker 1: A ministry to abortion industry workers. Abby Johnson is with

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Speaker 1: us and he's the vice president of the American Association

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Speaker 1: of Christian Council's host of the renowned Built Different podcast,

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Speaker 1: and a mental health and performance coach expert. Doctor Zach

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Speaker 1: Clinton is with us. Thanks for joining us here on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: It's been another wild week in American around the world.

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Speaker 1: President Trump, he's running at warp speed. In the last week.

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Speaker 1: He got India and Pakistan to agree to a cease fire.

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Speaker 1: further trade talks. And President Trump also signed an executive

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Speaker 1: order on drug prices to stop the cheating of American

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Speaker 1: citizens drug companies. You know, they sell their products to

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Speaker 1: people all over the world at one price, but they

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Speaker 1: And all eyes again are glued on the Middle East

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Speaker 1: as President Trump visits there, meetings with the Crown Prince

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, UAE guitar and more making the news. It's

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Speaker 1: amazing to me how the Bible comes alive prophecy about

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Speaker 1: that region being the centerpiece of the end times. And

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Speaker 1: here we go. President Trump, by the way, has not

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Speaker 1: been mincing words on Iran, repeated stern warnings to Iran

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Speaker 1: saying no nuclear weapons or else. But what about peace

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Speaker 1: in the Middle East? The first Trump administration we witnessed

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Speaker 1: the Abraham Accords. Is there any significance here about what's

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Speaker 1: happening right now? And where are we going as the

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Speaker 1: President continues to minister in that area? Were going to

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Speaker 1: talk about that? Meanwhile, the leftist press they created a

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Speaker 1: bus about a luxury plane being given to the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, President Trump, what was he doing?

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Speaker 1: Signed a six hundred billion dollar economic deal with Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: Some analysts believe that that deal will create two million

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Speaker 1: new additional American jobs. And here Stateside, doge that Department

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Speaker 1: of Government Efficiency is still wide open. And tariffs they're

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Speaker 1: starting to work. The stock market that's going in the

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Speaker 1: right direction. It's looking at President is making all the

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Speaker 1: right moves. Hey. Mental Health Awareness Month is the month

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Speaker 1: of May. We're going to keep shedding light on this

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Speaker 1: exploding area of culture with soaring rates of anxiety, depression,

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Speaker 1: even suicidalities showing up, especially among our kids. One thing

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Speaker 1: is certain, we always have hope. Our hope and our

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Speaker 1: strength or power comes from the Lord. Here's a great

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Speaker 1: verse to hold on to this Sunday and this week,

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Speaker 1: in hope. I like that verse. Get ready as we

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Speaker 1: Johns now is Gary Bauer. Bauer served in President Ronald

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Speaker 1: Reagan's administration for eight years as Under Secretary of Education

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Speaker 1: and Chief Domestic Policy Advisor. Today, he serves as President

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Speaker 1: of American Values And an educational nonprofit organization, and Senior

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Speaker 1: Vice president of Public Policy the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. Gary. Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you, Tim.

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Speaker 1: Exciting times, Gary, another wild week. We've got a president

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Speaker 1: But hey, look at what he's gotten done over the

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Speaker 1: getting to a ceasefire, but on it goes. Gary. Your

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Speaker 2: You know, Tim in particularly in the last week, I

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Speaker 2: kept getting this of verse being laid on my heart.

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Speaker 2: You blessed are the peacemakers, for you know, a number

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Speaker 2: of years now, the left and the media have tried

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Speaker 2: to suggest that President Trump in his first term or

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Speaker 2: now in this second term, he get us in the war.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, the reality is the exact opposite. I've never

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Speaker 2: I don't think any of us believe that it's guaranteed

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Speaker 2: spent a tremendous amount of energy and time to get

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Speaker 2: the previous administration did not do one day for one day.

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Speaker 2: There was no efforts under President Biden to get a

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Speaker 4: It was just war war war.

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Speaker 2: And as you said, you know, we had a situation

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Speaker 2: Trump got in the middle of that. He sent the

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Speaker 2: you've got a temporary cease fire. But I know, and

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Speaker 2: as you do, Tim, that there's things happening behind the

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Speaker 2: So I think whatever happens in the months and years ahead,

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Speaker 1: Ukraine and Russia sitting down to talk. You got what

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Speaker 1: it looks like it's all blowing up on them.

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Speaker 2: It sure does. And yeah, you mentioned us getting the

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Speaker 2: And then China, you know, Communist China. It was huffing

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Speaker 2: And look, I think we need to be honest about it.

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Speaker 2: It's not because Hamas and Communist China saw the light.

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Speaker 2: I think it's much more likely that they felt the heat.

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Speaker 2: And only the way that Donald Trump can put heat

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Speaker 2: That wasn't even in their deck of cards. They wanted

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Speaker 2: So the world is still a very dangerous place. Tim

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Speaker 2: I can't think of a better person to be President

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Speaker 2: knowing that if there are solutions to some of these

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Speaker 1: You know, your old boss, Ronald Reagan. Gary, operated with

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Speaker 1: that peace through strength mindset. It's certainly showing up, I

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Speaker 1: something about operating out of that place, Gary, that allows

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Speaker 2: You know, Tim Reagan and President Trump have a lot

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Speaker 2: that that happened, he survived because God had something to

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Speaker 2: particularly Butler Pennsylvania, because God has something that he wants

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Speaker 2: him to do, and that's what the President is devoting

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Speaker 2: his energies to, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, on the world stage. Gary, and I'm gonna step

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Speaker 1: back for a moment. We have a new pope Pope Leo,

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Speaker 1: the fourteenth first American pope ever Gary, anything we should

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Speaker 1: be thinking about, praying about as it relates to the

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Speaker 1: new pup thing. A lot of people asking questions like

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Speaker 1: is he conservative? Is he liberal? Where is he going

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Speaker 1: to stand on a lot of issues and more? Your

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, as you know, Tim, I'm an evangelical

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Speaker 4: You know, we get involved in education, we get involved

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Speaker 1: Travis' faith is back in America. You look at some

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, anything that you celebrate, you duplicate. So

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Speaker 1: It's huge. Amen Pastor Travis Johnson, Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 1: Johny Snow is pro life activist Abby Johnson. She's the

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Speaker 1: founder of And Then There Were None. It's a ministry

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Speaker 1: designed to assist abortion clinic workers and transitioning out of

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Speaker 1: the industry. God's using her mightily, Abby. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us, of course, thank you for having me on

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Speaker 1: as we get started. You look at the past administration

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Speaker 1: and they were putting what seventy five year old grandmas

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Speaker 1: who are peacefully protesting in jail and things. And we've

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Speaker 1: got a new sheriff in Town's a new day. The

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Speaker 1: administration's pretty strong in their pro life position. Are you encouraged?

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Speaker 7: I am from what we're seeing right now with the current.

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Speaker 8: Budget bill, the Budget Reconciliation Bill right now as it

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Speaker 8: is it currently would defund Planned Parenthood, and not just

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Speaker 8: Planned Parenthood, but abortion providers, which is exactly what it

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Speaker 8: should do. I mean, look, we look around, we see

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Speaker 8: all of the key tam lawsuits, which are medicaid fraud

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Speaker 8: lawsuits that have come out against Planned Parenthood.

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Speaker 7: They are a bad actor. They are a group of people.

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Speaker 8: They are a group of providers that should not be

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Speaker 8: receiving our federal tax dollars, whether it is for abortion

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Speaker 8: or whether it is for any other service. They cannot

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Speaker 8: be trusted with federal taxpayer money or stay taxpayer money.

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Speaker 8: So they need to be excluded, not just on the

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Speaker 8: basis of murdering our children, but also on the basis

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Speaker 8: so they can't handle our funds. Clearly, they are a

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Speaker 8: corrupt and devious organization, and they don't they shouldn't be

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Speaker 8: handling our money.

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Speaker 7: So I am encouraged.

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Speaker 8: I think, however, the next step, I mean, the next fight,

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Speaker 8: the current fight really for the pro life movement are

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Speaker 8: these chemical abortion pills and sixty four percent of women are,

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Speaker 8: they're aborting themselves. They're not going to abortion facilities, they're

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Speaker 8: not going to plan Parenthood.

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Speaker 7: They are.

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Speaker 8: Going online. There's over seventy two websites right now where

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Speaker 8: women can go online. They can put in any day

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Speaker 8: to birth, any name. They can get these pills sent

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Speaker 8: directly to them from overseas providers. They never speak to

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Speaker 8: a doctor, they never speak to a medical professional, and

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Speaker 8: they don't even have to be pregnant. In fact, you

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Speaker 8: don't you don't even have to be a woman. Men

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Speaker 8: can get these pills, and who knows what men are

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Speaker 8: doing with them. Well, we know what they're doing with them.

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Speaker 8: And you know the these women are taking these pills,

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Speaker 8: they're delivering their babies and toilets, they're fleshing their babies

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Speaker 8: down the toilet. And Planned Parenthood's goal, the abortion industry's goal,

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Speaker 8: is that by the end of next year, eighty percent

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Speaker 8: of abortions will be done by these dangerous chemical abortion pills.

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Speaker 8: And so you know, now the fight really is not

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Speaker 8: only to defund Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry, but

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Speaker 8: to get a hold of these chemical abortion pills. And

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Speaker 8: so that really is you know, we we need to

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Speaker 8: hold strong on defunding Planned parenthood. But then the next

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Speaker 8: battle is going to be really to help Donald Trump

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Speaker 8: understand the dangers of chemical abortions, because he just recently

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Speaker 8: said he's going to side with the Biden administration on

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Speaker 8: you know, chemical abortion pills. We've got to help him

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Speaker 8: understand the chemical abortion pills. This is the threat to

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Speaker 8: women right now. They're dangerous and a new study just

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Speaker 8: came out showing how dangerous they are, and so that's

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Speaker 8: going to be that's going to be our fight, Abby.

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Speaker 1: I want to stay with the planned parenthood issue for

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Speaker 1: a moment. Their financial report came out. It was pretty shocking,

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Speaker 1: the twenty three to twenty four annual report. It showed

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Speaker 1: that they had I think it was four hundred and

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Speaker 1: two thousand abortions and something like about two million dollars

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Speaker 1: a day of taxpayer money is going in like eight

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. I think people need to quote hear that.

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Speaker 1: Wait a second. This thing is still wide open, and

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Speaker 1: so President Trump's big beautiful bill, you're right, is to

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Speaker 1: quote deal with this issue. But we're in a fight.

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Speaker 1: Even though the pro life movement has made a lot

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Speaker 1: challenges still in front of them, and so the significance

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Speaker 1: here is to realize how profound this stuff really is

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Speaker 1: still and why we're making the moves that we're making

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Speaker 1: currently in the administration.

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Speaker 7: Yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 8: And there are Republicans right now who are unsure whether

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Speaker 8: we should defund Planned parenthood.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 7: And a lot of that is.

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Speaker 8: Because you know, they don't understand the damage that planned

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Speaker 8: Parenthood is doing, and they're still believing the lie that

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Speaker 8: without planned Parenthood, people are not going to be able

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Speaker 8: to get, you know, family planning services, are not going

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Speaker 8: to be able to get women's healthcare, which is.

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Speaker 7: A total and utter lie.

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Speaker 8: And so our job as Christians, our job as conservatives,

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Speaker 8: as pro lifers, is to really ring that bell. And

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Speaker 8: you know, whether it's on social media, in your book clubs,

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Speaker 8: in your churches, you know, people say to me, well,

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Speaker 8: I don't have the platform you do. You don't need

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Speaker 8: to have the platform I do. You don't need to

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Speaker 8: have you know, the platform that Tim does. You don't

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Speaker 8: need to have that platform. You have influence in your

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Speaker 8: own communities. You have influence in your own circle of friends,

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Speaker 8: in your churches, in your communities, that is where God

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Speaker 8: has planted you, and that is where you need to

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Speaker 8: really focus your efforts. It's talking to people one on one,

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Speaker 8: it's posting on your own social media. It's letting people

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Speaker 8: know that planned parenthood is a danger to women, it's

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Speaker 8: a danger to children in the womb, it's a danger

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Speaker 8: to your communities because people are believing the lie. When

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Speaker 8: you look at Planned Parenthood's own reports, so this isn't like,

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Speaker 8: you know, Abby Johnson, making these numbers up out of nowhere.

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Speaker 8: This is tracking Planned Parenthood's own reports. If you look

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Speaker 8: at Planned Parenthood's reports over the past fifteen years, you

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Speaker 8: will see that every single other service that they offer,

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Speaker 8: family planning, well woman exams, birth control, STD testing, and treatment,

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Speaker 8: those services have gone down by over seventy percent, almost

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Speaker 8: eighty percent.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 8: The only thing that continues to increase of planned parenthood

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Speaker 8: over the past fifteen years has been federal funding and

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Speaker 8: abortion services.

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Speaker 7: That tells you where where their drive is, and it's

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Speaker 7: to kill babies.

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Speaker 1: Abby, I want to talk about the movement itself, the

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Speaker 1: pro life movement. You know, the annual March for Life,

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Speaker 1: Big deal had a banner event this year. The thing

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Speaker 1: that was exciting to me was the younger generations are

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Speaker 1: taking this over. It's like they call themselves the pro

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Speaker 1: life generation. There's something really stirring. Abby. Are you encouraged

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Speaker 1: by what you see? I mean there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of reports out there, but do you see that very

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Speaker 1: thing happening is their major momentum out there going?

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Speaker 8: Oh? Absolutely, one hundred percent. I you know, every year

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Speaker 8: I stand on the stage at the March for Life

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Speaker 8: and I look out.

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Speaker 7: The crowd is so youthful.

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Speaker 8: This year, right on the front row, I was looking

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Speaker 8: out and I was so encouraged him because there was

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Speaker 8: a group of private school kids and it was a

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Speaker 8: it was a boys' school, it was an all boys school,

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Speaker 8: and they were out there on the front, just on

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Speaker 8: that front line and cheering and so excited, and I thought, man,

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Speaker 8: this is so awesome. I mean, when you look out

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Speaker 8: at the sea of people, I bet seventy percent of

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Speaker 8: them are under the age of thirty. And I remember

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Speaker 8: several years ago, the president of Nayrau went to which

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Speaker 8: is you know, our countries, one of our country's largest

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Speaker 8: abortion rights groups. She went to the March for Life

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Speaker 8: just to see what was going on, right to kind

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Speaker 8: of be a spy, and later there was an article done.

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Speaker 8: She wrote an article about it, and she said, I

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Speaker 8: looked around at the crowd, and I thought to myself, Wow,

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Speaker 8: they are so young. And that is what we continue

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Speaker 8: to see. We look at, you know, the pro abortion movement,

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Speaker 8: and you see people like you know, Barbara Streisand and

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Speaker 8: Jane Fonda. Right, these are postman apostal women who can't

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Speaker 8: even have children anymore.

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Speaker 7: Right, they're way past their fertile years.

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Speaker 8: You look at the pro life movement and these are

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Speaker 8: young women, women that are in high school, women that

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Speaker 8: and their husbands.

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Speaker 7: Right, young men.

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Speaker 8: That is who makes up the pro life movement. And

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Speaker 8: that gives me just great hope. And I also see

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Speaker 8: people who who have once been pro abortion, people like myself,

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Speaker 8: who now are in the fight for life.

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Speaker 7: And here's the thing.

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Speaker 8: The conversion door, it really only swings one way. You're

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Speaker 8: not going to see a whole lot of people who

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Speaker 8: are once pro life and now find themselves pro abortion.

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Speaker 8: But you will see tens of thousand, thousands of people

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Speaker 8: who are who were once champions for abortion who now

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Speaker 8: fight for life. And that that also gives me great, hope.

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Speaker 1: Abby. If people want to learn more about your ministry

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Speaker 1: and then there were none and maybe how to get engaged,

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Speaker 1: where can they go? Because I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people out there saying, you know what, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: People are, people are done being silenced and shamed. That's over.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. It's like, let's saddle up and let's get

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Speaker 1: let's get into town. Where can they get Abby?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so they are.

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Speaker 8: Our ministry website is abortionworker dot com. But if they

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Speaker 1: Com, abbyj dot com. Abby always great to see you

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Speaker 1: appreciate the ministry. God's called you too. It's a and

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Speaker 1: and the voice is given to you for such a

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Speaker 1: time as this. Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next. He's the vice president of the American

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Speaker 1: Association of Christian Council's, hosts of the renowned Built Different podcast,

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Speaker 1: and a mental health and performance coach. Expert, Doctor Zach

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Speaker 1: Clinton is with us.

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Speaker 5: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 5: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and x. We love being a

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Speaker 5: part of your life.

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Speaker 1: Join us now is doctor Zach Clinton. He serves as

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Speaker 1: Vice president of the American Association of Christian Councils and

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Speaker 1: hosts of the Built Different podcast, interviewing professional athletes, mental

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Speaker 1: health experts, and ministry leaders. Zach also serves as president

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Speaker 1: host of the Night Men's Impact Weekend that gathers thousands

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Speaker 1: of men every year. He's a growing authority and voice

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Speaker 1: on performance and mental health for today's generations. Doctor Zach

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Speaker 1: my Son, welcome, Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Dad, thank you so much for having me. It's always

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Speaker 6: a pleasure to join you.

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Speaker 1: That kind of fun, Zach introducing you as doctor Zach Clinton.

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Speaker 1: Recently got your PhD in counselor. It was a big day.

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Speaker 1: We had a fun weekend together.

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Speaker 6: Very fun weekend. So grateful for Liberty Universe, the faculty

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Speaker 6: and staff there, the professors that have invested in my life,

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Speaker 6: but especially to Evelyn, you know this my wife. Then

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Speaker 6: to you and Mo. I'm just grateful for the people

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Speaker 6: that have invested in me throughout this entire journey.

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Speaker 1: Zach. May is Mental Health Awareness Month. Kind of in

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Speaker 1: your lane. Now I'm becoming an authority, especially with today's generations.

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Speaker 1: But we're seeing soaring race of depression, anxiety, even suicidality,

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Speaker 1: especially among the younger generation. What do you think really

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Speaker 6: You know, I think it ultimately comes down to the

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Speaker 6: identity crisis that we're seeing, I think infiltrating America. I

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Speaker 6: think especially within the next generation, you've heard me say

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Speaker 6: that they're very confused. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: we get lost and trapped in this world of comparison.

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Speaker 6: But then ultimately there's a lot of curiosity, and so yes,

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of challenge. Yes, we say, and as

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Speaker 6: you would always say, not only are we in a

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Speaker 6: mental health crisis any longer, we're in a mental health disaster. Anxiety, depression, addiction,

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Speaker 6: eating disorder, suicidality, all of these things are on the rise.

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Speaker 6: But so is the curiosity for information. And so if

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Speaker 6: we can keep on providing the information to our next generation,

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Speaker 6: reminding them of who the true source of hope, encouragement

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Speaker 6: and power really is, which is found in Christ and

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Speaker 6: in Christ alone, I think there's this holy curiosity that's

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Speaker 6: going to continue to infiltrate this country for the better,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying faith is back in America.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at this curiosity whord you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: And some recent research is showing by the way that

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Speaker 1: the gen xers are the younger generations, by the way

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Speaker 1: in particular, young men are coming to God in crazy numbers.

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Speaker 1: It's so encouraging.

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Speaker 6: I even saw recently, Dad that it was the younger couples,

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Speaker 6: the younger dads who are taking a stand for such

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Speaker 6: a time as this. Evelyn and I, you know, this

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Speaker 6: And just so seeing the men that are just so

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Speaker 6: on fire for the Lord, that are investing in my life,

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Speaker 6: and we get just to open up God's Word together

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Speaker 6: to have fun just learning more about Him as well

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Speaker 6: as growing in relationship with one another. I think that

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Speaker 1: Well, Zack. A lot of people are talking about mindset

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Speaker 1: that using words like resilience, human flourishing, well being. They're

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Speaker 1: the midst of it. You talk a lot about and

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Speaker 1: I know in your first book, even if the power

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, Threau one said this, it's not about what

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Speaker 6: And I came across a story recently that I just

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Speaker 6: a window. The other man's hospital bed was close to

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Speaker 6: and more. But they developed this bond, this friendship over

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Speaker 6: I mean, whether it was kids that were flying kites,

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Speaker 6: whether it was laughter in the air, whether it was

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Speaker 6: One day, that man ended up passing away and going

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Speaker 6: home just to be with the Lord. And the man

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Speaker 6: because he wanted to see all that that man saw

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Speaker 6: and he asked the nurse, like, why in the world

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Speaker 6: with these stories for me? And the nurse looked at

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Speaker 6: was that he was blind the whole time. He didn't

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Speaker 6: even get the opportunity to see that brick wall that

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Speaker 6: only wanted to encourage you. And so again it goes

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Speaker 6: back to this idea that there is power in perspective.

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Speaker 6: Franco would say this that the last thing that can

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Speaker 6: be robbed of a man, the very last of our freedoms,

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Speaker 6: is the attitude that we choose to have regarding any

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Speaker 6: particular situation. That's not minimizing the pain, that's not dismissing

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Speaker 6: the pain. But ultimately, what that is doing is saying,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to choose to have this perspective each and

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Speaker 6: every day of my life to find the good, to

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Speaker 6: see the meaningful things that can come out of in

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Speaker 6: spite of the pain. And now's Inky Johnson once said,

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Speaker 6: I'll end this way. Inky says this, how you view

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Speaker 6: what you do will always affect how you do what

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Speaker 6: you do. Again, there's just always going to be power

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Speaker 6: in the perspective that you choose to see in any situation.

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Speaker 1: Zach, you have a new book out. Actually it's gaining

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Speaker 1: a lot of traction called even If. Tell us about

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Speaker 1: that real quick, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Even If Daniel chapter three love the prayer that these

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Speaker 6: men that faith offer. They display such religious fidelity here

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Speaker 6: to the Lord by not bowing the need of culture

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Speaker 6: of their circumstances, but only being conformed to the image

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Speaker 6: of Christ by saying, not only do we believe that

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Speaker 6: our God is able, but we believe that He will

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Speaker 6: deliver us from the midst of the Majesty's hand. Whatever

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Speaker 6: your situation might be, we believe that God will deliver

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Speaker 6: you from that. But at the same time, even if

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Speaker 6: he doesn't, still staying true to your faith, your family,

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Speaker 6: to your friends, into the standard within you rather than

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Speaker 6: succumbing to the expectations, opinions, or circumstances around you. That's

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Speaker 6: a little bit about the book, Just some lessons, some

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Speaker 6: principles I've learned along the way. But yeah, you got

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Speaker 6: adad even if developing the faith, mindset, strength and endurance

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Speaker 6: of those who are Built.

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Speaker 1: Different, Zach, I want to wrap this way. You've got

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Speaker 1: a podcast dot there called the Built Different Podcast. Tell

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Speaker 1: us about that and what you're doing there. It's exploding

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Speaker 1: and how people can maybe follow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, to build different podcasts. I'm so excited about

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Speaker 6: what God is continuing to do and through it. New

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Speaker 6: episodes are aired every Tuesday and Thursday. We have leaders

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Speaker 6: in the spaces of mental health, ministry, professional athletics, motivational speaking,

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Speaker 6: and more. Really, what it is we just want to

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Speaker 6: give you a dose of hope, encouragement and motivation for

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Speaker 6: you and your life, but also for those that you love.

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Speaker 1: I hope and prayer.

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Speaker 6: As we're kind of going through the month of May

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Speaker 6: very similar to this Mental health Awareness month, we're really

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Speaker 6: shedding a light on some challenging situation, some challenging stories.

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Speaker 6: Everybody has a story, and as GK. Chesterson would say,

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Speaker 6: we're all destined to misunderstand the story we find ourselves in.

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Speaker 6: I just want to help shed a light to recognize that,

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Speaker 6: you know what, maybe just maybe God isn't just going

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Speaker 6: to meet you in your hardship, but maybe just maybe

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Speaker 6: God already lives there. My hope and prayer for each

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Speaker 6: and every individual is that they would be able to

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Speaker 6: through conversations on the billd Different.

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Speaker 1: So sac where can they find it?

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Speaker 6: They can find it on Spotify, Apple, wherever they listen

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Speaker 6: to their podcasts. If they want to find the even

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Speaker 6: If book, where can they go? Yep, they can just

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Speaker 6: simply go to Zach Clinton dot com. That's kind of

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Speaker 6: a one stop shot. It's been fund that doctor Zach Clinton.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, Zach, your wife Evelyn finishing her

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Speaker 6: doctorate too, yep, doctorate of nursing practice. She's a family

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Speaker 6: nurse practitioner. I cannot be more proud of Evelyn. You

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Speaker 6: know that, Dad, She's been a gift in my life. Yes,

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Speaker 6: she has been overachievers, Zach. Always great to have you.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Dad. Love you.

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Speaker 5: For more encouragement and to stay connected. Follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 5: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and x. We love being a

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Speaker 5: part of your life.

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Speaker 1: And closing. These are unprecedented times. There are difficult times,

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Speaker 1: but I know this, God's in control and these at work.

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Speaker 1: I believe that. I hope you're pressing close to Him

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Speaker 1: in his heart. Know this that God loves you, He

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Speaker 1: wants to be in your life. Our hope, our strength

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Speaker 1: comes from the Lord. Here again is another. Here's an

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Speaker 1: encouraging verse from the Bible to hold on to this week,

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Speaker 1: Romans fifteen, verse thirteen. May the God of Hope fill

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Speaker 1: you with all joy and peace and believing, so that

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Speaker 1: by the power of the Holy Spirit you may have

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Speaker 1: bound in hope hope. You also know that you can

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Speaker 1: look to them for wisdom and direction in your everyday life.

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Speaker 1: Let me also say I've learned as a professional counselor

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Speaker 1: that it's normal to have concern, maybe some fear of worry,

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Speaker 1: But I've also learned that if you're not careful, can

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Speaker 1: begin to consume you, control you, and it's easy to

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Speaker 1: they would feel like life would be better off without them.

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Speaker 1: I say this every week. You don't have to live

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Speaker 1: like that. Simply taking a step reaching out for help

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Speaker 1: or hope it's often the gateway to a new day

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Speaker 1: or a new you. If you, or so many love

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Speaker 1: There are wonderful counsels and pastors who care. You're going

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Speaker 1: to help you find the hope and the answers that

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Speaker 1: you're looking for. We also have a lot of wonderful resources.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to connect you with some of those. You

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Speaker 1: that's AACC dot net, or go to our website christiancareconnect

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Speaker 1: dot com christiancareconnect dot com. If you don't have a

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Speaker 1: personal relationship with God in Christ. You can do that

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Speaker 1: right now by asking God to come into your life.

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Speaker 1: Ask him to forgive you of your sin, to come

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Speaker 1: into your life as your Lord and savior. Simply pray

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Speaker 1: this prayer from your heart to God's heart. Lord Jesus,

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Speaker 1: I need you. I'm a sinner. I believe you die

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Speaker 1: I invite you to come into my heart and into

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the gift of grace and forgiveness, gift

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Speaker 1: You know what the Bible says in Romans ten to

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Speaker 1: doctor Tim Clinton is always, thanks for watching. See you

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