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Speaker 2: The World's a Pigeon podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. That's

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Speaker 2: different than using your hand.

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Speaker 3: It's the hand that's the striking.

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Speaker 2: I know that's what it is. But stop Huters has

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Speaker 2: a system.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't have to go into the minutia

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Speaker 3: of at all. It's a system, but it's a system

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Speaker 3: of being a hard owe push.

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Speaker 2: Ups on the field.

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Speaker 3: But you know who he reminds us what he's talking.

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Speaker 2: He reminds me of.

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Speaker 3: You can say Ted Williams, Do I speak Fred?

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Speaker 2: Or do I speak Friend?

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Speaker 3: What was Ted Williams like Fred? You you probably saw him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I remember when he was a kid. When

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Speaker 2: I was young. Was yaz bread. They had like this

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Speaker 2: really bad white bread that they would sell Rico Petrocelli

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Speaker 2: and Tony Conigliaro.

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Speaker 3: You know, great, everyone's mocking you right now, you know that, right,

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm old. And he also says it's Paul

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Speaker 2: losing weight. He's looking good.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium and we're back in our studio. We

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Speaker 2: gotta get a sponsor for the studio.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, something especials a name. Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: I like that little lead, like it was just like

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Speaker 6: faded in. It was like Fred kersh Like it was

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Speaker 6: a comforting like there's Fred. There's the leader of Patriots Nation.

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Speaker 3: Patriots Unfiltered, come join us. Yeah, yeah, wasn't that like?

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Speaker 2: All right, So it's Deuce, it's Paul, it's me, it's

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Speaker 2: Matt Nabooth. Will anybody else be by later?

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Speaker 3: I believe we might want to Yeah, in the second hour.

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Speaker 7: Okay, we've got offensive coaches with Alex van Pelt going,

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Speaker 7: So Evan and Tamara and Alex they'll be out there.

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Speaker 2: You know. What we should have them do is like

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Speaker 2: when they have because this is going to be an

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Speaker 2: issue because now practices are a little later than they

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Speaker 2: but then he would go and then come back from

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna be able to do that anymore.

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Speaker 7: Right, It's well, I mean, I don't know how deep

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Speaker 7: in the weeds you want to get Fred. But I mean,

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Speaker 7: according to you know, what the schedule might be. I mean,

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Speaker 7: there's a chance that you know, we might be in

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Speaker 7: locker room sometimes at the start of when Patriots and

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Speaker 7: Filter discobed.

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Speaker 2: But I was thinking that that's okay. But let's have

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Speaker 2: Evan call in from the practice field and we'll get

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Speaker 2: a live report from the field onto the show.

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Speaker 7: Sure, don't even need to look at him. Don't you

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Speaker 7: need to have them come in, Just call us and

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Speaker 7: then do your own thing that works, We'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: I mean, And I'm gonna maybe we'll need a theme

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Speaker 2: song for that. I was just gonna throw was calling in.

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Speaker 7: Evan's got a song. We don't need to do that.

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying, I'm throwing it out there, Jill. It

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Speaker 7: might be do seven Untime era and now it's coming

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Speaker 7: back from the locker room. What happened in the locker room?

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Speaker 7: That kind of song. So I don't know, maybe put

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Speaker 7: be might kind of it might be you two guys,

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Speaker 7: you know, starting things off me.

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Speaker 3: I want to leave you.

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Speaker 2: Fred Ball has always been by myself, all right, Uh,

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Speaker 2: just a little sad too while we're talking about people.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to Andy Hart pfw alum who now has the

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Speaker 2: Drive Time Show Afternoon Drivetime Show, and w e e

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Speaker 2: I that's.

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Speaker 7: I'm excited about my future Dighton hov right, So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, will he resign after one day?

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Speaker 7: Well it's pretty cool because we were all sitting with

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Speaker 7: your Fred to see one of your another one of

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Speaker 2: I'm pleased. I'm really pleased. I go. You know, Andy,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's such a blockhead.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, so he's gonna be yes, everybody, you can

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Speaker 2: By the way, he'll be co hosting that with Christian Arkan,

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Speaker 2: who you know are game for us part time. So

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Speaker 7: That's the Andy ca Well, I just it's competing with

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Speaker 7: your show, though, Paul, I mean your your.

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Speaker 2: Your my show. I think we're gonna have some fun

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Speaker 6: But in all seriousness, I am really happy for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And he did pay his due.

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Speaker 2: He paid his due, he did those weekends and those holidays.

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Speaker 3: Keep being here five years now, right, so he's been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't seem tho.

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Speaker 2: We've got the game coming up Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, in practice, uh, Joe Milton took a lot of

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Speaker 6: I think that Zappie and Milton took more reps yesterday

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Speaker 3: And then then that's it the rest for these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I didn't stay for the whole practice, but from

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Speaker 3: Not at all. He was he was like hot under

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Speaker 7: same thing from Drake May overall. And it's good that

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Speaker 2: I I was going over it, and you know, the

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Speaker 2: But he's a good player. You know. Second year, the

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Speaker 2: Patriots get a high draft pick, we load up, we

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Speaker 2: the bottom line is the more experience he gets playing

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Speaker 2: with bad things around him, and you know, I mean that,

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Speaker 2: if they do get better tools around him. So you

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Speaker 2: can't listen. You don't want to get him killed. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's going to happen though, But.

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Speaker 3: You also you can't operate as if well, I can't

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Speaker 7: To get killed.

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Speaker 2: No, you can't play like that.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: And and by the way, Jacoby Brissette's lives matter too,

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Speaker 2: you know, so well, you know, why are we putting

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Speaker 2: don't think that's they don't think that's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And you know, there was a little development for Darian

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Speaker 2: Lowe had an upper body something. I think that you know,

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Speaker 2: Wallace comes in. I think the plan is to have

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Speaker 2: hastened that where right guard, right tackle, right tackle, I

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that that's well.

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Speaker 2: He's he's going to be on the line at some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have quite the time I should have

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like, I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 2: But it's hard to say. But you know, we all

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's the whole thing about we can't put

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Speaker 6: I think there's value to that, Like what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 6: Now we got now we got a pretty good offensive line.

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Speaker 6: How much easier will that make it for him? If

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Speaker 2: Been hitting the balls off crappy lies all year. Now

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Speaker 7: I mean you talk about Josh Allen, like, you know,

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Speaker 7: And I mean I said it kind of under my breath,

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Speaker 7: the element of this offense that they need. And you know,

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Speaker 7: we probably talk about Taekwon Thornton probably gonna be out

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Speaker 2: They got to catch the ball.

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Speaker 7: Baker because he's had no problem doing that all summer

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think he had one catch yesterday. He

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Speaker 2: That's that that to me, is Thornton still doing okay

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Speaker 3: I think he looks good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think he's had to find a guy that you know,

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Speaker 7: Right, And that's that's what I that's what I want

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Speaker 7: to see. And when we talk about Drake playing with

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Speaker 7: feel like and Thorton's been okay. I mean I wouldn't say, oh,

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Speaker 2: But this kid that they just picked up, I know,

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Speaker 7: give him a chance. Hopefully he's able to stay healthy

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Speaker 7: I think there's just a trade actually between the Eagles

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you're going to see a lot

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you have two of them, but you can put

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Speaker 3: You can do it. Then you don't have to wait

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Speaker 6: Ok So, like in other words, Jake Andrews got placed

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Speaker 3: He's out for the year.

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Speaker 6: He can't return, Like you couldn't designate him to return.

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Speaker 6: But on Tuesday, when you get down to your fifty three,

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Speaker 2: So now you're down to fifty and you can add it,

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Speaker 3: Can and you can have three other people on the

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Speaker 7: And was there any I probably need to drill down

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Speaker 7: on POPP and therefore are eligible to stay on PUP

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Speaker 7: for correct six weeks, seven weeks, four weeks, four weeks,

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Speaker 6: The difference is like Hunter Henry would be a candidate

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Speaker 2: Is because he didn't start right.

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Speaker 6: Because he can't go on PUP. That would be the difference,

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Speaker 3: Moved it to four.

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Speaker 2: One of them was six.

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Speaker 6: P UP definitely used to be six and now it's four, Okay,

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Speaker 7: Like born Cold, strange. A couple of that come to

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Speaker 6: I don't think you would be like with with with

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Speaker 6: think there's a certain number, yes, of guys that you

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Speaker 2: I thought it was two.

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Speaker 8: That.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I just change a lot.

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Speaker 3: I'm terrible. I am terrible with details like that. I

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Speaker 7: Well, that's why it'll be nice. Wednesday was here.

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Speaker 2: This is so as important as the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: It's more the roster moves that are going to happen,

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Speaker 2: the guys that aren't going to make the team, the

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Speaker 2: guys that do make the team. Who clears waivers to

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Speaker 2: get onto the practice squad afterwards? You know that whole thing.

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Speaker 7: I think Bourne is the interesting.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely four games for I are yeah, I.

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Speaker 7: Mean, what happens with Bourney's you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to tell.

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Speaker 2: Because you started on pH so he's.

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Speaker 2: He's run around the lower spirits as opposed to Barrie Mapu,

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Speaker 7: And it is eight players eight players, all right, that's

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Speaker 6: But you don't want to waste them, like when you

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Speaker 2: So yeah, So that's it's going to be a busy,

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Speaker 7: I mean we did Evan did one a while ago.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, so I did one heading into camp.

440
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Speaker 6: Do you think we should do another one?

441
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Speaker 2: Probably?

442
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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, because Evan's been doing them, which, yeah.

443
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Speaker 2: But that's Evans.

444
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Speaker 3: No, I know, got issues with that one sort of

445
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Speaker 3: my role.

446
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Speaker 7: I haven't done.

447
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Speaker 6: One, all right, maybe all maybe I'll whip one.

448
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Speaker 2: You can whip one together and just say where you differ.

449
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Speaker 3: I mean, rather, maybe I'll whip one together. I'll tell

450
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Speaker 3: you what I why.

451
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Speaker 2: Here's where Evan's wrong.

452
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Speaker 6: That's a call on colleague crime. One of the things

453
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Speaker 6: that I have found kind of difficult is guys like

454
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Speaker 6: Taki Taki that you know I had on the roster,

455
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Speaker 6: finding where those replacements will be, and like, I think

456
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Speaker 6: they're going to end up keeping seven wide receivers to

457
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Speaker 6: start plus Born on PUP. Like I wouldn't have said that,

458
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Speaker 6: you know, three weeks ago, four weeks ago, because I

459
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Speaker 6: didn't know that these guys were going to be on PUP.

460
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Speaker 2: And you know, you have to do the projection.

461
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Speaker 6: You lose Matthew Judah, you know where you know, do

462
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Speaker 6: you take a guy there? Like I think that you

463
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Speaker 6: could end up seeing more cornerbacks, Like I could see

464
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Speaker 6: a scenario where it's you know, beyond Gonzo and Jonathan Jones,

465
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Speaker 6: you know, and Marcus Jones, those are three guys you

466
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Speaker 6: feel really good about. I could see Sean Wade, Marco Wilson,

467
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Speaker 6: Alex Austin and and Isaiah Bolden all making it or

468
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 6: even Marcella's Dial because right, so you have to figure out,

469
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Speaker 6: you know, the fifty three best in your mind as

470
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Speaker 6: well as positionally, because I don't know how many is

471
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Speaker 6: too many at both corner and wide receiver. But it

472
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Speaker 6: doesn't do you any good if they're the best, that

473
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Speaker 6: they're among the best fifty three if they're not going

474
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Speaker 6: to play right And.

475
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Speaker 7: That's hard, hard positions. I think the cornerback position to me,

476
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Speaker 7: every time I look at it, and you just rattle

477
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Speaker 7: off the names Paul, nobody separated themselves from that lower

478
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Speaker 7: below those top three. It's and Mao said it, Austin

479
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Speaker 7: Wilson a kind of rotation in there.

480
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Speaker 2: How versatile is a guy? How many different cornerback positions?

481
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Speaker 2: Can he play? Bold and play special teams? Has some returnability?

482
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Speaker 3: How big?

483
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Speaker 7: But you have a few low round draft picks that

484
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Speaker 7: they've made that you want to see how they feel

485
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Speaker 7: about those guys. Do they see a future? You know,

486
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Speaker 7: Alex Austin didn't draft here, but you know was still

487
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Speaker 7: what second year guy? So him Bold and Dial? I mean,

488
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 7: these are all, you know, young guys that I don't

489
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Speaker 7: really have a feel for yet.

490
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

491
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Speaker 6: I feel really good about the safeties, but I don't

492
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Speaker 6: feel anywhere near as good about the corners.

493
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Speaker 3: Now there's numbers in the corner.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, but I don't it's quality.

495
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Speaker 6: Mike just said it, Like Marco Wilson, Alex Austin, Sean Wade,

496
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Speaker 6: I could make an argument any given day, well he

497
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Speaker 6: looks really good today, and then the next day you're like, well,

498
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Speaker 6: you get up like three passes today, Like they's just

499
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Speaker 6: And Gerard Mayo said that about I don't know, four

500
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Speaker 6: or five practices ago.

501
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Speaker 2: Maybe yep.

502
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Speaker 6: Just looking for a guy to establish some consistency among

503
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Speaker 6: that group.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

505
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Speaker 7: I mean one more thing I would say too, Fred

506
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Speaker 7: is just without the Chris Boards of the world, without

507
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Speaker 7: a lot of the pure special teamers other than maybe Schooler,

508
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Speaker 7: maybe there's some you know, just opportunities there as well

509
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 7: that you know, you can keep see somebody who you

510
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Speaker 7: might have some potential to play in the roster.

511
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Speaker 6: This is interesting too, Like I think they're going to

512
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Speaker 6: have just as many of those guys, but I think

513
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Speaker 6: that you won't realize it what Mayo is really trying

514
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Speaker 6: to do does not make you think that, like he's

515
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Speaker 6: given school or a ton of reps at safety, Christian Ellis,

516
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Speaker 6: ray Kwan McMillan, those guys, if they're on the roster,

517
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Speaker 6: are going to be special teams players, yea.

518
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Speaker 2: If in a jam they have to go in. They

519
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: had a little experience at it, right, And it's the

520
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Speaker 2: old Belichick.

521
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Speaker 3: Right, It's just like what Bill used to do. But

522
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Speaker 3: like the only one that didn't really fall into that

523
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 3: was like Slater, you know, like.

524
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Speaker 2: He didn't even practice with the team, right.

525
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Speaker 6: Those other guys, like like ray Kwan McMillan has been

526
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Speaker 6: all over the defense. You know, he had a really good,

527
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Speaker 6: really strong game against.

528
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Speaker 7: The Eagles Thursday's back on the red jersey. You can't

529
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Speaker 7: get a break.

530
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Speaker 2: So, but I don't identifi in the draft.

531
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Speaker 10: But back of the envelope to Miami.

532
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Speaker 3: You liked him going to Miami.

533
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Speaker 2: Alabama, ray Kwan McMillan when he was coming out of

534
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Speaker 2: the draft, he was one of my back of the

535
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Speaker 2: envelope guys.

536
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Speaker 3: But then Miami took him. I know, but I wanted

537
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I don't know that. Okay, I'm giving your thumbs.

538
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 7: Okay, I found that he found that gem in Alabama.

539
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Speaker 3: He's kind of been disappointed, he has been was he

540
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Speaker 3: I thought it was Ohio State.

541
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Speaker 2: Now I fess up to even the guys at the

542
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Speaker 2: CTE he was at Ohio State. I'm pretty sure that

543
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Speaker 2: it wasn't. I don't think so, I don't I could

544
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Speaker 2: be wrong. I don't know, I don't know. I just

545
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: liked him.

546
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Speaker 3: I don't know why Ohio State's sticking out.

547
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: To me, But a're you thinking of and Kats?

548
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 3: I think the listeners are right. I'm done, Really, you're done?

549
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: All right, speaking, It's been a good run. Thanks for

550
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Speaker 3: having me.

551
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Speaker 2: Speaking of what Gerard said, uh Dan Roach asked him

552
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Speaker 2: a question about when he would know or is there

553
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: a deadline or I figured the exact wording of the question.

554
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Speaker 2: You know when when he there would be a starting quarterback?

555
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Speaker 2: And he said, you know, by Monday night, we'll know,

556
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Speaker 2: not that i'll know you I actually but we should know.

557
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Speaker 2: So is he just kind of like playing koy or

558
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Speaker 2: do you think he honestly believes that there could be

559
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Speaker 2: a decision to be made on Monday night?

560
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Speaker 7: I don't believe it. I mean, I think this. I mean,

561
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Speaker 7: I think that it's Jacoby Brissett. They've been kind of

562
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 7: telling us the whole time. My whole thing with all

563
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Speaker 7: of this is that this is why Bill never made

564
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 7: declared to statements about players, because I think, as Gerard

565
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 7: is learning in this first month of camp, everybody here

566
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 7: writes down what you say, you're going to throw a

567
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 7: hole in your face if it's not a competition, if

568
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 7: the reps aren't divided up, right, Like so you understand

569
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Speaker 7: why Bill said less and didn't get caught in those traps.

570
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Speaker 7: And now there's a lot of different things that Jarada

571
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Speaker 7: said over these last few weeks that people are like, well,

572
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Speaker 7: this doesn't make sense with this, and you know it's

573
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Speaker 7: it's not all jiving with.

574
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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, the bottom line,

575
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Speaker 2: it's the goal is the same. People don't know what

576
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Speaker 2: the answer is.

577
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Speaker 3: And I will say this.

578
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Speaker 6: In twenty twenty one, Bill said it'll be a competition

579
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Speaker 6: between Cam Newton and Mac Jones, and he said Cam

580
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Speaker 6: Newton is the starter. He said at some point heading

581
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Speaker 6: in so maybe ota.

582
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh, he's definitive about it.

583
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Speaker 6: And then when he decided that was it. Now the

584
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Speaker 6: only thing that I would say I'm strongly with Mike

585
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Speaker 6: here on this is Bill said that in like May

586
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Speaker 6: and then never addressing it right until he decided I'm

587
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Speaker 6: going to announce that mac Thoms the quarterback, whereas Gerard

588
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 6: is entertaining the questions virtually every Prescott.

589
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But the fact that you know, Gerard hasn't announced

590
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Speaker 2: who the starter is yet, you know for week one,

591
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Speaker 2: I'm with him every other team with a young quarterback.

592
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Speaker 7: That's another thing. That's just like I saw the conversation

593
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Speaker 7: going on yesterday around the outless and stuff. It's like,

594
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Speaker 7: does anyone really think that Drake May is gonna win

595
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 7: the starting job today or tomorrow? And like the last

596
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Speaker 7: two practices, like, I think it's already settled. I think

597
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Speaker 7: that they're gonna do what they've been telling us all along.

598
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Speaker 7: They're gonna start Chakobe Brissett and we'll see May you

599
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Speaker 7: know when it's time. But I don't. I don't really

600
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Speaker 7: see there a decision to be made.

601
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Speaker 2: What if you know, because after Sunday Night's game, there's

602
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Speaker 2: there's two weeks before the season opens, just made maybe

603
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Speaker 2: do you think he says I'm gonna wait one more

604
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Speaker 2: week to make my decision and see how those that.

605
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Speaker 6: He might wait one more week to tell us. But

606
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Speaker 6: I don't think he's to make it because I just

607
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 6: really feel.

608
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Speaker 3: Like it's time to get ready decision. It's time. Well,

609
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 3: so I want to get to that in a second.

610
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Speaker 6: That's a great topic one, but I think that he

611
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 6: needs time to get whoever he picks fully on board

612
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 6: with Cincinnati and you know, like that whole first month. Yeah,

613
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 6: you know those game plans. But to your point that

614
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Speaker 6: you just brought up Fred on my show yesterday, Felger

615
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 6: was just browbeating me about how much power Girodmeo actually has.

616
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Speaker 3: Does he even have a say in this? I was countering, Yes.

617
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Speaker 6: He's the head coach, Like if if he decides, Look,

618
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Speaker 6: I get what he said, it's a collaborative and I

619
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Speaker 6: agree with that.

620
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Speaker 3: I believe that.

621
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Speaker 6: I think that Gerrod's being forthright, that Elliott's involved, Alex

622
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 6: van Pelts involved in the offensive coaches. Yeah, but I

623
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Speaker 6: feel and if you guys disagree, that's fine. Like, let's

624
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Speaker 6: face it, no one's been wrong more than me. If

625
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 6: if he decides, if Alex van Pelt just says, you know,

626
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 6: I just don't think this kid's ready yet, and Gerard

627
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 6: is really adamant that he is. You're telling me that

628
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 6: Girod Mayo's not doesn't have the power to start him

629
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 6: and say not duly noted, Alex. I get it, he's

630
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 6: going to start this week. You're telling me you can't

631
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 6: do that. I don't believe that. I believe that Mayo

632
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 6: would have now. More realistically, if they're not all in

633
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 6: the same page like they'll probably he'll probably wait.

634
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: Or they'll hammer it out. They'll have it, just like

635
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: in other words, I don't think Gerard's waiting for Alex

636
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: van Pelt to tell him what to do. Michael. I

637
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: think Gerard has his own opinion, and I think if

638
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: they are different, I think there'll be a conversation to

639
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: be had.

640
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 6: I think so Felger was just adamant that Gerard has

641
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 6: no juice, like Mayo has no power, he has no

642
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 6: control over his I don't believe it. You know, like

643
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 6: when he said yesterday and we should probably talk about

644
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 6: some of the stuff that he said, yes because it

645
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 6: was a kind of interesting press conference with Girodd. But

646
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 6: when he had that comment about you know, i'd like

647
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 6: to think that I have final say over who's on

648
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 6: the field, and he kind of laughed.

649
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 3: You could take that one of two ways.

650
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 9: Now.

651
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 6: Of course, Mike and Tony took it as like he's

652
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 6: like bitching about his lack of power. I took it

653
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 6: as well. He was being sarcastic, like, yes, Elliott Wolfe

654
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 6: has final say over the roster, but I'm the coach.

655
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 6: I decide who plays gamed it right right, you know.

656
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 6: And he was kind of like you, so you agree

657
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Speaker 6: with Mike and Tony.

658
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 7: No, No, I'm just I'm just I'm going back to

659
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 7: saying sarcasm don't fly in press conferences. And that's that's

660
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 7: because that's because people that's him. I mean, I was

661
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 7: just going to say that. I think you've heard it

662
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 7: from Elliot wolf You've heard it from Mayo. Like no,

663
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 7: it's like we're all kind of on the same page. Now.

664
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 7: We don't know when we're going to disagree. So I

665
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 7: think so far they're still in the honeymoon phase, at

666
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 7: least as far as the personnel. But no, I I

667
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 7: agree with what you're what you were saying. I mean,

668
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 7: I don't think he's sitting there already saying I got

669
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 7: no power help, you know. I don't.

670
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 6: I didn't take it that way anyway, And we'll see

671
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 6: if he I feel like, if he is adamant the

672
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 6: time is now and someone else disagrees, I don't think

673
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 6: he's going to get overruled. He's the head coach. Yeah,

674
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 6: it's a hypothetical.

675
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: It is a hypothetic. Yeah, you know, like I always said,

676
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: it will be apparent that Drake may should be playing.

677
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 6: So what do you but But you've been at the

678
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 6: last several practices, Freddy, because I'm curious, Mike, can I

679
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 6: see you know, we're out there all the time. We

680
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 6: talked after, you know, during after we already know what

681
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 6: we feel like. You've been out there a lot lately, especially,

682
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 6: Does he look like he's ready to play, like.

683
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: Starting week one?

684
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: I do, But here's the thing. It doesn't look close. Yes,

685
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: here's the thing. I don't know. I don't know what

686
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: is happening in the classroom. I don't know what's happening

687
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: in film study. Maybe he's not doing as well there

688
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: and that's why we're not seeing that, you know, passing

689
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: of the two. We don't know that stuff. But from

690
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: what I've seen in the field, he's ready.

691
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 6: Oh physically, Yeah, Oh, I don't think there's a question. Yeah,

692
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 6: but that was yeah and misunderstood. Yeah, physically he blows

693
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 6: everybody away.

694
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: But I don't know about the other stuff. And that

695
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: can be where Jacoby Brissett still is head and shoulders

696
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: above him.

697
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: But don't That's what it looks like to me.

698
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 6: It looks like it's not like I still see them

699
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 6: breaking the huddle, going back in the huddle. What happens

700
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 6: every day?

701
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

702
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 7: I think I've I've kind of come up with a

703
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 7: new angle two that I've been thinking about. It's just

704
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 7: that this is a whole new operation. What do the

705
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 7: coaches even really know about their team? You know, and

706
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 7: goes back to this is a new offense, this is

707
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 7: a whole new coaching staff, Like, is there an argument

708
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 7: to be made that aside from whether or not Drake

709
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 7: is ready? Like they just don't know, like they don't

710
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 7: know what the problems are going to be. Whereas at

711
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 7: least if we go a few games, Look, Ramondre is

712
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 7: off to a great start. We know, we feel really

713
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 7: good about him. Ryan, I'm just you know, we feel

714
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 7: really good about a b is a huge problem though,

715
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 7: and that's what we're gonna have to Protectdrake, you know,

716
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 7: like you kind of know what you're talking a couple

717
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 7: of weeks.

718
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: I mean that kind of clicked with me because you know,

719
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm a proponent to have him start right away may

720
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: but you just something, just a light bulb went off.

721
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: Let's see how it looks without him first, and then

722
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: know what we're putting him into. And I'm not just

723
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: talking about the offensive line. I'm talking about, like you

724
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: just said, the offense as a whole. What are we

725
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: inserting him into? Because they don't know, this isn't like

726
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 2: an offense that existed last year. So that is a

727
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: good case to at least do a game two, maybe

728
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: three four. What kind of offense do we have and

729
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: what are we putting this kid into? Just from a.

730
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean i'd say, I mean, everybody wants to

731
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 7: go to, like, well the offensive line, you know, but

732
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 7: like what if it's a good thing? What if it's

733
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 7: fully crap? Taekwon Thornton has two games and man, he's

734
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 7: really you know, showcasing.

735
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: We know what works.

736
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 7: Now we can get drink in there and we're going

737
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 7: to feature that. That's gonna you know, whereas it's kind

738
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 7: of a mixed back going in.

739
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: It just kind of clicked for me a little bit

740
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: as to a reason why you don't put him in

741
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: right away the week they don't know what the offense

742
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: is going to look like, you're.

743
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 7: Going to ruin Drake May by not playing them for

744
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 7: the first three weeks of the twenty twenty fourth season

745
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 7: of his rookie year, like before the.

746
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: Other side, you're going to ruin him by playing them.

747
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: I don't think.

748
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think.

749
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: You're ruining them either way.

750
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, But and I say, that was the most compelling

751
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: thing that I've heard. Let's go to have him wait

752
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: a little bit, job a little bit.

753
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 6: Just so he looks like he's like but the development

754
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 6: is there yet? Yeah, And it's just like I don't know,

755
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 6: I don't know what the plays are. I don't pretend to,

756
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 6: but it it just there's still like that indecision, there's

757
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 6: still the double pumping. Now if we're just talking about this,

758
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 6: guys not to get enamorous. This guy throws over here

759
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 6: and that guy throws over there. Drake May is so

760
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 6: light years ahead of your said It's that's the hard

761
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 6: part watch comparison.

762
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 7: Not really dynamic quarterbacks the last couple of years and

763
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 7: now all of a sudden, mentally he might be swimming,

764
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 7: you know, lost. But when you see him make some

765
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 7: of these throws, you see him throwing the move, you

766
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 7: see how he gets out of the pocket, it's like

767
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 7: those things to us who are so conditioned of like

768
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 7: watching quarterbacks who can't throw them with the ball down

769
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 7: the field, who you know, struggle to throw deep outs

770
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 7: that you know can't get out of the side of

771
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 7: the pocket. And so those things are almost like the

772
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 7: shiny new you know, parts of the car that you're like,

773
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 7: look at this, but you know it's like, well the

774
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 7: engine isn't quite ready to go, but you know, the

775
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 7: chassis and then the paint job and now all that

776
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 7: looks beautiful.

777
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: Can't really speaking of the engine. So the other part

778
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: of the offense that we're kind of not talking about

779
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: right now is the running game. Like, if the running

780
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: game is good, that's going to take that's going to

781
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: go a long way in making.

782
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 7: Either quarter By the way, look that's terrible, but if

783
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 7: it's terrible, they're i mean not scary.

784
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: And maybe that's some other reason to like forget about

785
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: the line itself and protecting the quarterback, Can we get

786
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: a running game going?

787
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, And they told us a hundred times that's the

788
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 7: basis of their offense. So I think if you want

789
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 7: to talk about, is Drake megan to get in there

790
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 7: and they get out there and they're able to have

791
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 7: a little success running the ball early in the season.

792
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 7: Is probably a good sign that they, you know, will

793
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 7: have at least a functioning kind of offense.

794
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean, if every drive is like thirst to eleven,

795
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean, no quarterback's gonna look good.

796
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 6: And Mayo said yesterday there's a couple other things that

797
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 6: that we mentioned. One was about the running game. He's

798
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 6: really excited about the running game. He thinks it's been

799
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 6: really good.

800
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: And how do you know. I don't. I don't have

801
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: seen it.

802
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have no idea.

803
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 6: Like I think, I think the backs themselves have run hard.

804
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 6: I think Stevenson against Philadelphia really picked up a lot

805
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 6: of yards after contact, a couple of third and shorts

806
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 6: that he got all on his own.

807
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: But like, sometimes I don't want that right. It's easy

808
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 3: to say.

809
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 6: It's easy to say, well, it's third and one and

810
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 6: they moved the chains. Yeah, obviously that's the bottom line.

811
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 6: That's what we all want in a game. You don't care,

812
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 6: they don't ask you by how much, as long as

813
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 6: you got the first down. But I'd like to not

814
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 6: have him have to break a tackle in the backfield

815
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 6: on third and one, right, and he had to do

816
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 6: it twice. Yeah, in that game they had the very

817
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 6: first play of the preseason against Carolina, Ramandre bounced it outside,

818
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 6: went up the sideline for like eleven yards. I don't

819
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 6: think they've had really any other good runs blocked runs

820
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 6: unless it was like late in the game, like Jennings

821
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 6: had a twenty yard run, but like the best one,

822
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 6: like Harrison and Stevenson have really had to plow their

823
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 6: way to any yards that they've gotten.

824
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 7: I mean, this might be the bigger piece. Everyone wants

825
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 7: to talk about the pass protection and the left tackle,

826
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 7: but like this might be the bigger piece of making

827
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 7: this offense function is having the run game go, which

828
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 7: will then enable the protection to not be quite have

829
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 7: all the pressure on it. Like you said, Fred, where

830
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 7: it's third and long and you're like, all right, here

831
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 7: we go seven step drop, Like you know, that.

832
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: Goes back to what you say. So you're after you know,

833
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: three games and they can't run. It's like, what are

834
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: we putting them in there?

835
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 6: And that's why I want to sort of change, you know,

836
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 6: change the approach. And I know that's not what Alex

837
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 6: Manapelt wants to do. He keeps saying it, we're a

838
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 6: run team. He's probably saying it right now. He's talking

839
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 6: right now.

840
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 3: Twelve thirty six.

841
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 6: It is probably in front of the podium or the backdrop,

842
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 6: whatever they call that.

843
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: I would like step and repeat, Paul, Okay.

844
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 6: I would like to see them sort of, you know,

845
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 6: go away from that and do a.

846
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: Lot of easy throws.

847
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: On first too, you know, like high percentage.

848
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, I think that Drake May has shown

849
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 6: to be really effective with that hard you know, show

850
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 6: the ball, fake, quick turn, dump to the tight end

851
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 6: for like seven. So now it's second and three instead

852
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 6: of second and nine.

853
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: Now your whole plates right, Yeah, Now I could do

854
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: whatever I last year, they do a sneak and I'd

855
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: be so mad. You know, you got second and one.

856
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: That's been mad for about fifteen years.

857
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: They could do second and one and they do a

858
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: quarterback sneak. What are you doing? You're wasting a play?

859
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 2: All right?

860
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 9: Eight?

861
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: Five five Pats five hundred is the A ticket hotline.

862
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: Web radio at patrios dot com is the email address.

863
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: Let's get to some of the phone calls if I

864
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: can get my mouse to line up. Yep, there it is.

865
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: Let's see Eldred has been holding on. What's up? Eldred?

866
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: Hey all doing doing good?

867
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 8: Doing good? Okay, Hawk, love your honest you love your honesty, buddy,

868
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 8: but I gotta I'm not gonna Uh. I'm still from

869
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 8: North Carolina, but even though I'm not in Missouri, you

870
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 8: still gotta show me. And what you said at the

871
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 8: beginning about old and pumping a little bit and to

872
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 8: show flashes, it's all that too. But if the kid

873
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 8: come out and play good, I'm behind him one hundred percent.

874
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 8: But right now you gotta show me. But uh, I

875
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 8: got a game for everybody, Okay, if you don't mind.

876
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 8: It's called Championship Foundation. I got it off of a

877
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 8: buddhistick with Jeremiah and Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucket Brook. You

878
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 8: got one, two, three, four, five categories blue chips.

879
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 11: That's the top.

880
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 8: Player in the five ten of their position. Green is

881
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 8: player dysfunctional and the reliable, and you might might move

882
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 8: them up the blue purple is a rookie unproven, but

883
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 8: a blue chip fat pink. You young player on proven

884
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 8: yellow is coming off injuries or either get a contract

885
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 8: dispute or your older players. Okay, you choose them from

886
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 8: three categories quarterback, wide receiver, running back, offensive off three

887
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 8: office linemens, two pass rushers and playmakers line back in

888
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 8: the corner.

889
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 11: Back two each.

890
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 8: Who is your blue chip on this team right now?

891
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: Who would you put?

892
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 9: Why?

893
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 7: You know the answer to the Celtia that this is

894
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 7: a you know the answer forever?

895
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: Is there a green?

896
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 7: I don't know, I need.

897
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: I was the only green is.

898
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 8: A stable player, functional player that you can rely on.

899
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: Okay. Blue chip on the offensive line is David Andrews

900
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: right on this team on this.

901
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 6: Are we talking about just by comparison to this team

902
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 6: or like the league?

903
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: Oh, David and I don't know.

904
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 7: I don't think we have any I don't There isn't Barb.

905
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: War's out he's not playing.

906
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: But I think they have a lot of solid players.

907
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: This is a very complicated game, Aldred, and not one

908
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: that we can do like that.

909
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: But it was like Ralph Wilson, it's a complicated proposal.

910
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: I didn't complicated.

911
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 7: The answer is they're not there very you have.

912
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: Like it's just a simple question where you take it

913
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: off the air, sending the key. That's what all right?

914
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: Thanks Eldred. Yeah, that's that's like the games last year.

915
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: There were a lot of colors.

916
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of colors.

917
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 7: They got some solid players, mister.

918
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: Pink, Your guy Peppers is good guy. Yeah, Peppers and Dog.

919
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: I think Peppers might be our best defensive player.

920
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: Rock solid players.

921
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 6: Peppers and Doug Right, Yeah, I mean I think good,

922
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 6: good solid players. I think TV and Bentley good solid players.

923
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 6: I just don't think they're blue chips, Like if that's

924
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 6: what you're sort of getting at.

925
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: They're not superstars in the league. Let's go to uh,

926
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: Bobby in Connecticut. What's up, Bobby, Bobby in Connecticut?

927
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: Bobby Sandy.

928
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: I think he's trying to figure out Aldred's game. I

929
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 2: think that's what's going on. He will Hey, guys, how's

930
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: it going today?

931
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 11: Two things I want to touch on today. One of

932
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 11: them is I feel like people are really overreacting to

933
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 11: the jirid male press conferences a lot. I feel like

934
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 11: the big picture has kind of been aligned the whole,

935
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 11: like preseason all along, and I feel like people are

936
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 11: just kind of really trying to make a story out

937
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 11: of the day instead of the bigger picture with them,

938
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 11: I feel like everybody keeps you picking him up. He's

939
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 11: saying a whole bunch of different things but really saying

940
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 11: nothing at all, kind of like Bill Belichick would do.

941
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 11: And also another thing that I wanted to touch on

942
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 11: was I feel like Drake may should be definitely be

943
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 11: the starter coming up, considering Kobe Brissette has been steady

944
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 11: just like he has been for eight years. But you

945
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 11: don't really hear a lot of stuff for progression from men,

946
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 11: whereas you hear a lot of improvement from Drake may

947
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 11: a VP king all last week he was saying well

948
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 11: for a couple of weeks ago so the season ticket holders,

949
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 11: and was saying that his progressions were ahead of schedule.

950
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 11: And I'd just like to see the kid get a

951
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 11: shot over somebody who's kind of been a perennial backup.

952
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 7: But for me on you guys think, yeah, thanks. Well,

953
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 7: I think that's the hard part is that Jacobe Brissett's

954
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 7: has not played well.

955
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: Well, He's reached his ceiling.

956
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 12: But.

957
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 7: You know, throwing that pick in that game like, it

958
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 7: hasn't been it hasn't been good in practice, it hasn't

959
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 7: been consistent. And that has been and I don't want

960
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 7: to say that's as much of a factor of what

961
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 7: Drake's rise has been, but he just he's he's been

962
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 7: sloppy with the ball and it's and if he's going

963
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 7: to be throwing interceptions, it's like, I don't know if

964
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 7: we can do this again.

965
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 6: I would totally agree with that assessment of the last week.

966
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 6: But it's impossible for a nine year guy to improve

967
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 6: camp at the rate of a.

968
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: Rookie right because there's not as much room for improvement.

969
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: He is what he is right now, exactly.

970
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 6: Mike just made a comment that like, you've been a

971
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 6: little you know, disappointed that it hasn't looked any better,

972
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 6: just solid. So it all comes down to what you

973
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 6: actually thought like. And I've said this many times in

974
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 6: the offseason. There's a blanket assumption with the twenty twenty

975
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 6: four Patriots that the offense can't possibly be worse and

976
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 6: the quarterback play can't possibly be worse. And I keep saying,

977
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 6: why do we say those things? I have no idea.

978
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 6: I'm not telling you they will be worse. Oh, they

979
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 6: are worse. But Jacoby Brissett has never proven to be

980
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 6: any more than a backup, right, you know, I think

981
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 6: he's a great backup because I think he has the

982
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 6: perfect mentality and attitude to be an asset to any

983
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 6: team that he's on. I think he's a wonderful teammate

984
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 6: and a respected veteran, and now he has experience. So

985
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 6: if you need to plug him in, I think he's

986
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 6: he's really well suited for that. But when he's had

987
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 6: to play consecutive weeks in games, he's not really had

988
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 6: a lot of success.

989
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: In the league.

990
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 6: So I don't know why we're automatically assuming it's going

991
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 6: to be better than it was last year.

992
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I back up that point Paul by

993
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 7: saying the last couple of weeks that first team offense

994
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 7: with him, it ain't look much different than what we

995
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 7: watched in training camp.

996
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 6: So the offense in general, no matter who's playing quarterback,

997
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 6: has looked eerily similar. I mean, different plays, different schemes,

998
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 6: but production wise, eerily similar to the last two years.

999
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: But all you have to do this year to be

1000
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: better is score two touchdowns a game.

1001
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 6: That's what you why you averaged thirteen points a game

1002
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 6: last year, fourteen.

1003
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: That's like, yeah, like what are you doing?

1004
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 6: Like, I know everybody says that, but like, first of all,

1005
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 6: I want I need to see it. I'll tell you

1006
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 6: what the hope and that this is how I turned

1007
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 6: it yesterday when they asked me, like, what are some

1008
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 6: of the things, Like the defense.

1009
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: Has been really good on paper?

1010
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 6: Right, last year the numbers said that the defense was

1011
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 6: like top ten, but they didn't really force a lot

1012
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 6: of turns. Maybe you force a lot of turnovers and

1013
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 6: you set up some points like that that could happen. Yeah,

1014
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 6: you know, because takeaways kind of ebb and flow. Sometimes

1015
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 6: you're really good defensively, but you're not coming up with

1016
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 6: a lot of takeaways.

1017
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: Maybe this year they do.

1018
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a hard way to live.

1019
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 6: That's how they like. The two games that they've played

1020
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 6: in the preseason, their scoring drives have been like thirty yards,

1021
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 6: Like they haven't had these like seventy five yard drops. Right,

1022
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 6: they're taking over and plus terror you know, long your

1023
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 6: guy David Wallace with a good punt return I think

1024
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 6: set up one of the scores in one of the games.

1025
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 6: The scoring drives have all been very short. They've had

1026
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 6: great field position and still haven't been able to put

1027
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 6: any points.

1028
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 3: On the board.

1029
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: Brandon writes in do you feel it's possible Drake May

1030
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: is getting reps with the ones behind closed doors? After

1031
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: hearing David andrew yesterday saying he did this during his

1032
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: first year, it had me curious.

1033
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 6: No, not yet that that will be a possibility starting

1034
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 6: next week. Right now, we're seeing every practice. They can't

1035
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 6: be out there without us being there.

1036
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: That would be a violation, right, and they can't have

1037
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: another practice.

1038
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. They can't. The the field time

1039
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 6: that they have is they're allotted field time. But next

1040
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 6: week we'll be out there for probably ten or fifteen minutes,

1041
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 6: and that's absolutely in play. I think the emailers got something,

1042
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 6: probably Larry plausible plays.

1043
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 7: All that kind of stuff will start.

1044
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 6: So just like Drake May with David Andrews in the

1045
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 6: first offense, like we're not seeing it, and then all

1046
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 6: of a sudden you go into the next week, you know,

1047
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 6: with Cincinnati week, and that they know what they've seen.

1048
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 7: At least, I did think yesterday's practice was a little interesting,

1049
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 7: just for me limited training camps I've covered but it

1050
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 7: felt like that's probably what kind of a regular season

1051
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 7: practice is like, with going off cards and you know,

1052
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 7: you're not really having competitions internally and trying to put

1053
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 7: reps together where you know you're trying to figure your

1054
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 7: team out. It's more just we're just trying to get

1055
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 7: our guys ready to play against what they're going to

1056
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 7: play against.

1057
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 6: You know, people have asked a lot like have you

1058
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 6: seen differences? You know, and that's one difference. Bill did

1059
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 6: more the card stuff in preseason even, you know, because

1060
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 6: he used to always say you have to put your

1061
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 6: guys out there with a chance to succeed. So he

1062
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 6: did what what Gira did yesterday, Bill would do for

1063
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 6: a practice heading into the first and second preseason game

1064
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 6: as well. Now, I haven't seen much, if any card

1065
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 6: work until yesterday, did you No. I thought that was

1066
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 6: the first that we've really seen. They're running Washington Place right.

1067
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 7: You know, maybe a little before the Eagles practice, but

1068
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 7: I don't think.

1069
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: That could be Jane Rhode Island. Max started right away

1070
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: and he had a fine season. He just sucked. Dre

1071
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: will be fine starting right away. Experience is the best teacher.

1072
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I.

1073
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 6: Don't think it's apples to apples, though, That's the only

1074
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 6: thing is mac Jones was you know, five years at

1075
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 6: at Alabama and came in largely considered a finished product.

1076
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 6: Everybody said his ceiling isn't much higher than what it

1077
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 6: is now, but he's pro ready. Whereas most people think

1078
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 6: that May is only at twenty one years old, didn't

1079
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 6: have the same kind of experience you know, in college.

1080
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 6: He was only there for three years and has more

1081
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 6: growing to do, you know, so I don't really think

1082
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 6: it's the same now. He's May blows away Mac Jones

1083
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 6: in terms of talent, not even a comparison.

1084
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: Alisha writes in going into the season, I braced myself

1085
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: that this is a rebuilding year, knowing that everything that

1086
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: goes with that. My mindset back in the beginning of

1087
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: the year was concerned for the offense, but confidence in

1088
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: our defense. I knew that the season would have ups

1089
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: and downs with a healthy team. However, I feel like

1090
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 2: the team is going through quite a few injuries before

1091
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: the season even kicks off. Offensive line, tight ends, and

1092
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: our defense to name the main ones. I do know

1093
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: that injuries occur to each team every year for some reason,

1094
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: these injuries seem like they may play more significant role

1095
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: in the overall outcome of the season. I'm not sure

1096
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: if my take is negative or ignorant, so please calm

1097
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: my nerves.

1098
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's I don't think it's either.

1099
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: I would say that I don't think the injuries are

1100
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 2: any more or any more severe than in the past.

1101
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: But what you worry about more is because we don't

1102
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: have the depth that these injuries, like, even if they're

1103
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: the same as past years or during the Brady years,

1104
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: they affect you more.

1105
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 6: They've also hit a couple of important play like Barmore

1106
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 6: and and Henry that.

1107
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 7: You're without your top four pass rushers right now. Matthew,

1108
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 7: Judon gone, Barmore hurt, Uce hurt, Zimmenez hurt. I mean,

1109
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 7: that's my way.

1110
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: When you couple Barmore and Jude On leaving, that's a

1111
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 2: big hit.

1112
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just talking about injuries. But Barmore and Henry

1113
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 6: are significant injuries.

1114
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 9: Now.

1115
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 6: I don't know how long Henry's going to be out,

1116
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 6: so maybe that's not as big a concern as I

1117
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 6: might be making out to be right now. But if

1118
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 6: you have Henry in Hooper like that's fine. But if

1119
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 6: you if you're missing one of those guys, and you're

1120
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 6: missing potentially a third guy in Wilcox who was back

1121
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 6: out on the field yesterday but not in full pads,

1122
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 6: that's an issue. Like the pass rushing thing you traded

1123
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 6: Jude on, Like that's gonna that's it for your pass rush. Yeah,

1124
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 6: Like I'm you're not going to adequately replace that.

1125
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: H Jake kind of saying the same thing that Deuce

1126
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: was saying. Just want to say I look forward to

1127
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: the Patriots show. Feels like the voice of Reason a

1128
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: lot of the time. Love the analysis in deep Dives.

1129
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: I'd love to see May come in for the home

1130
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: Dolphins game, not because I don't think he could handle

1131
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: coming in earlier, but I really want to see how

1132
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: the rest of the team looks under Berset as sort

1133
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: of a control in the May experiment. That's kind of

1134
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: what you're saying.

1135
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 7: I mean, that's and honestly, that's an angle that I

1136
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 7: didn't really think of of just seeing what it's getting

1137
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 7: something to compare it to. You know, like if Bank

1138
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 7: comes right in the offense, is what the offense is?

1139
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 7: You have no idea you know what it might look

1140
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 7: like if Jacoby Brissette.

1141
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 11: Is it?

1142
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: Is it May? Or is it the offense? Right? And

1143
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: so I'm starting to convince myself to wait a.

1144
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 7: Few games, did it finally?

1145
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: Did it? I mean, everybody's writing in about May, who

1146
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: is this? Does it?

1147
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 8: Say?

1148
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 9: J H?

1149
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: Maybe does it make sense for Drake May to take

1150
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: more playing time against the first string defenses so that

1151
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: while he's learning, they're getting better at defending against a

1152
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: more dynamic quarterback. It doesn't sound like Brissette is exactly

1153
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: lighting it up and making it difficult for them. With

1154
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: some of the qbs we have to play against. I

1155
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: think it could help. Also, what's it going to take

1156
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: to go into Miami and win this year? We've got

1157
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: to beat the Finns at home? Tua is too comfy

1158
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: against us.

1159
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 7: That is true. I mean, I mean my first thing

1160
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 7: I would say is that there's a lot of rotation

1161
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 7: on defense, and it's you know, it's kind of rare

1162
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 7: when you have that's the starting eleven. I mean, there's

1163
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 7: always going to be an Alex Austin out there or

1164
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 7: you know, a Josh Bledsoe or but I think May

1165
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 7: has had you know, some quality team reps against you know,

1166
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 7: majority starter types on defense. I don't think it's quite

1167
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 7: as cut and dry where he's always going to let them.

1168
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like the email, like, I think there's something

1169
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 6: to be said for it, like if you I mean,

1170
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 6: I guess the the pluses and minuses. The pluses are

1171
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 6: what he's saying, like it gives them a more dynamic

1172
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 6: quarterback to go against and maybe you know, offers a

1173
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 6: different look. The minuses are if he's mentally not ready

1174
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 6: to take advantage of his athleticism against them, and you know,

1175
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 6: is it is it worth it? But the one thing

1176
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 6: that you get back to is practice. For a guy

1177
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 6: like Drake May, I don't think it's necessarily conducive to

1178
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 6: his skill set because they don't want him running around

1179
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 6: and you can't hit him. It was like one of

1180
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 6: the things the Tuesday Joint practice. I think we had

1181
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 6: fourteen sacks. I think that was the knobs track pull,

1182
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 6: but I think that was the number that most people

1183
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 6: were reporting.

1184
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: How many of those would have actually been sacks.

1185
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 6: In a game, same play, same pressure, same play, Like

1186
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 6: both guys would have had an opportunity.

1187
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: To escape, to escape the pocket that you're not.

1188
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 6: Afforded in a practice setting, right, And I don't And

1189
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 6: the answer might have been fourteen.

1190
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just throwing it out there.

1191
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: It could have been fourteen with three strip sacks for only.

1192
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 6: Or it could have been you know, eighteen, right like

1193
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 6: maybe they would have you know, avoided on a couple

1194
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 6: of other times and eventually gotten sacked.

1195
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1196
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: I'd say it was just looked bad that day.

1197
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 3: It was bad. Yeah, just one more point.

1198
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 7: I don't even necessarily think they'll may going against the

1199
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 7: personnel is the thing. It's going against the scheme and

1200
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 7: going against how they post snap rotate safeties. I mean,

1201
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 7: there's a lot going on. I think that's a lot

1202
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 7: of value. It's you know, as much as you'd love

1203
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 7: to see him out there going against you know, having

1204
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 7: a complete passes against Christian Zalizer, Jonathan Jones, you know,

1205
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 7: getting just a feel for the game, and you know,

1206
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 7: especially with this defense, which JaMarcus Covington I think is

1207
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 7: is making it clear that they are going we're gonna

1208
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 7: send and seven, we're gonna send three. I mean, it's

1209
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 7: gonna be all over the map like that. And that's

1210
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 7: the stuff that he needs to get reps to understand

1211
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 7: how different defense is gonna.

1212
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: Play back on the age ticket hut line. We'll go

1213
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: to Melvin and tennessee. What's up Melvin? I was going

1214
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: on this week?

1215
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 13: Right, Yeah, I just talked about the defensive line a

1216
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 13: little bit. So it's funny that all of them like

1217
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 13: never really came together to kind of I wouldn't say

1218
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 13: peak all at once, but they've all had like spurts

1219
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 13: from why of course Judi and Baltimore they never really

1220
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 13: I feel like they never really came together at their peak,

1221
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 13: but they have the sense of Batman of that little grup.

1222
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 13: O don't with Judie and balmore now. But like of

1223
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 13: course we're left with the Robins. And when I saw

1224
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 13: Kean White in this last Situes game, I think he's

1225
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 13: all right. He just would have been so much it

1226
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 13: could be better with Baltimore. I like him rritching more

1227
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 13: from the inside opposite, but outside I don't. I just

1228
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 13: feel have like a lot of srepardation with him what

1229
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 13: he is, but he's not to step up big time

1230
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 13: because that bull rush he does. He just doesn't seem

1231
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 13: like he's worked too much of developed too much of

1232
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 13: outside moves. I just thought that's gonna be a hard

1233
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 13: way see him live and we got to depend on that,

1234
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 13: which I know that's probably not his idea. Thing is

1235
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 13: a past rush from what I remember from the draft.

1236
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 13: But I just hope that they can kind of pieces

1237
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 13: together and this is your two for him, So maybe

1238
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 13: he has that that growth and he can kind of

1239
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 13: go to the next level. But just so far from

1240
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 13: watching him, I still have just like my thoughts about

1241
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 13: him about not necessarily being that next level guy. But

1242
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 13: good player is not.

1243
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: I want come better, I guess.

1244
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 13: But that's the only thing I got with him.

1245
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks Melvin. Yeah, I mean we don't a lot

1246
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: about he came into the league as a tweiner, like

1247
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 2: they didn't really know, you know, uh, and he's got strength,

1248
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: but he doesn't really have a lot of speed. He's onside.

1249
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: He's got the strength and but not the girth for

1250
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: the inside, so he's like in between.

1251
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 7: I mean, everything that he just said on that call,

1252
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 7: ke White told you himself.

1253
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: He said last week.

1254
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 7: And he's got some moves on the inside like he's

1255
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 7: you know, but you know, as funny as after the game,

1256
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I'm kind of on a key

1257
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 7: on White Island, but you know, I said to Paul,

1258
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 7: I was like, I mean his sacks the same thing,

1259
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 7: Like he just tries to run straight into the guy

1260
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 7: and that time the guy didn't get deep enough and

1261
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 7: he got around him. You know, he needs to develop

1262
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 7: if he's ever going to be that edge guy. I

1263
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 7: think he's like, I don't need to repeat everything he

1264
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 7: just said, but inside pass Rusher that like, look, you

1265
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 7: got to think about him more as replacing some bar

1266
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 7: more snaps than replacing Jude on snaps. I think even

1267
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 7: though they'll probably have him on the edge early downs

1268
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 7: as a run stopper, him and Anthony Jennings there, you

1269
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 7: know'll be pretty stout. But again, how many sacks are

1270
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 7: those two guys going to have right now? Because right

1271
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 7: now you look at the depth chart, they're the guys.

1272
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 7: I mean him and as I know, he's he's heard

1273
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 7: he was back yesterday, he was limited. Ouce has had

1274
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 7: the weirdest camp. I think I've ever varience, Like I

1275
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 7: just I don't get what's going on with josh Ucha

1276
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 7: this whole year.

1277
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 6: Can we do like a fifteen second aside on uch? Okay,

1278
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 6: so Mike's point about it, he's had the Strangers camp.

1279
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 6: When camp opened he was out there every day, but

1280
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 6: really not doing a whole lot, clearly dealing with something physically,

1281
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 6: spent some time in the lower rehab field, didn't really

1282
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 6: take part very many eleven on eleven reps right. Then

1283
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, the Philadelphia preseason game came and

1284
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 6: he got like thirty reps, right, thirty snaps right. Since then,

1285
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 6: he's been back to the lower rehab field and not

1286
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 6: really taken part for William.

1287
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: I know Jerrod said it had nothing to do with

1288
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:35,959
Speaker 2: the fight.

1289
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it did.

1290
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: But wasn't he involved in the fight.

1291
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 6: He was involved in some pushing and shoving after the

1292
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 6: play where the Eagles took exception to the hit on

1293
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 6: the McMillan put on the blocker on the kickoff.

1294
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,479
Speaker 2: But what other explanation is there?

1295
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 7: I don't know, And I mean we were even speculating

1296
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 7: early on, like I don't care if he took one

1297
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 7: snap in the first quarter and then he came out

1298
00:56:59,200 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 7: of the game.

1299
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 3: Is he playing in a preseason game if he's not

1300
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 3: one hundred percent.

1301
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1302
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think.

1303
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 6: With one hundred percent part, like, I don't think it's

1304
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 6: right to punish a guy if he's not one hundred percent.

1305
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: I mean, what if what if it's his role is

1306
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: so narrow well that we don't need you in practice.

1307
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 7: That's just what I was gonna say. And I feel

1308
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 7: kind of like this connects to Dietrich Wise too, that

1309
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 7: they've kind of like, you're good at this, and you're

1310
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 7: gonna do this.

1311
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: We're not.

1312
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 7: We're done. Like with Dietrich Wise, you're a good You're

1313
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 7: gonna be a pass rusher now. Yeah, I think that's

1314
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 7: kind of a sign of a new coaching staff on

1315
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 7: the defensive side of the ball adjusting a little bit

1316
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 7: to the roles because I just I don't get it.

1317
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 7: I mean, like I was saying, like we were speculating,

1318
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 7: is he unhappy with the contract he signed? Like he

1319
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 7: just like something has seemed kind of off this whole.

1320
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 6: He has mentioned the contract, not to us, but just

1321
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 6: something that before camp started some kind of podcast or

1322
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 6: something like that, and then he saw everybody sign for

1323
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 6: much more, and I think he's probably I think he

1324
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 6: I think he left his agency, so I think that's

1325
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 6: part of it.

1326
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 7: It's just it's gonna be hard for him this year

1327
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 7: because they're gonna have to get.

1328
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: The third and the best thing he could do is

1329
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: have a good year.

1330
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, they're gonna have to get to third

1331
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 7: and long somehow to get him on the field, get

1332
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 7: him involved, right, So you're gonna have to be really stout,

1333
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 7: really good upfront and early downs and you know you're

1334
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 7: gonna need guys like ke On White and or I

1335
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 7: should say, you're gonna need guys like Jeremiah Farms and

1336
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 7: daniel Lequalae to produce early down pass rush pressure because

1337
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 7: you can't just have your front seven build the wall

1338
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 7: and nobody's running around making.

1339
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: That should mention. They released Mike Prissell.

1340
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I wasn't all that surprised. He's just

1341
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 7: a body. It seemed like, you know, as a as

1342
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 7: a nose tackle they like.

1343
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 3: I think Jeremiah Farms has had.

1344
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: A good team.

1345
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 7: You could have he could. He's kind of well rounded.

1346
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm curious to see how it translates. There

1347
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 7: are certain guys that you get kind of excited about

1348
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 7: in camp. You get to the regular season.

1349
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: They didn't play good point.

1350
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 7: I don't know about him road on the line, Nobody

1351
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 7: talking about him. Hes gonna play a lot he's gonna

1352
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 7: play next to Godschaw. They're gonna be probably the top

1353
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 7: two inside.

1354
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: But you know, of course we were expecting Barmore. So

1355
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: everything else is talking.

1356
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 6: About like in terms of they have guys like we

1357
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 6: talk about whys as being sort of one dimensional or

1358
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 6: quality kind of is too. He's a sub sub rusher

1359
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 6: in the interior. Now, I think you're asking him to

1360
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 6: increase his role, and I wonder if he's you know,

1361
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 6: he's one of those guys that's not as effective.

1362
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 3: The more he plays.

1363
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 7: That's totally I mean, unproven commodity. It's like, this is

1364
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 7: what you're left with. This is the guy.

1365
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you never know how the season unfolds, but

1366
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: what if we're looking at a team that can get

1367
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: pressure but can't stop the run.

1368
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 6: You know, so our good buddy Greg Bdard actually run

1369
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 6: defense is one of his concerns. Now, I would argue

1370
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 6: in this day and age, if that's the if that's

1371
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 6: one of the bigger concerns.

1372
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, we're okay.

1373
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 6: And I'm not telling you it's great to not be

1374
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 6: able to stop the run, but you'll be okay if

1375
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 6: you can do the other stuff.

1376
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 7: Well, if they can't stop the run. I think their

1377
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 7: whole philosophy is broken because you look at these guys.

1378
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 7: They're all run stoppers, like Godshaw, Bentley, Tavia, Jennings, key

1379
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 7: On White. They're all big dudes who can like win

1380
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 7: physical battles one on one. But I I that would

1381
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 7: be a terrible sign for this defense that they're gonna

1382
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 7: you know, if they couldn't stop the run, that's like

1383
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,959
Speaker 7: one thing. I'm like just willing to say that's gonna

1384
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 7: be okay, I think.

1385
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 6: But run defense has been really good, and they have

1386
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 6: a couple of fourth down stops and the Yeah, I mean,

1387
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 6: I know it's preseason, you know.

1388
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what what do we know and we

1389
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: don't know anything. Let's see Spian Fresno. Don't know if

1390
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: he's ready yet. But as Jerry would say, love the Drake.

1391
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: A couple questions. One, if they don't let if they

1392
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: don't start Drake May in week one, would you guess

1393
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: the decision is guided more by the pre existing plan

1394
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: to go with Brissette or more by the staff's genuine

1395
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: sense that May hasn't shown adequate command of the playbook yet.

1396
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: Both both both okay, completing each other and two all

1397
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: else being equal, would you rather go into the season

1398
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: with present day Mac Jones and the twenty fourteen Patriots

1399
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: defense or present day Drake May with this year's defense.

1400
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: Maybe the answer changes, macats pair.

1401
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 7: Give me May. I don't need to watch another Mac Jones.

1402
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 7: You can put Mac Jones on two thousand and seventeen.

1403
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, all right, I'm good.

1404
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean in today's NFL, you got to have

1405
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: the offense. Yeah, you know, you.

1406
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 7: Got to have the quarterback. And that was the bottom

1407
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 7: line when I went on one of Paul's shows this morning,

1408
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 7: is that I don't know if Drake May is the guy,

1409
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 7: but he's got the makings of being the guy. And

1410
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 7: that's the hardest piece to find. And for right now,

1411
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 7: I get why everybody's focused on him. He's he's he's

1412
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 7: the whole story.

1413
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm just looking to see if there's anything

1414
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: on the Twitter.

1415
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 7: About assistance things that were said. I think this is

1416
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 7: a funny show where, you know, I'm so used to

1417
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 7: off season shows where we have to like nothing happens

1418
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 7: and we have like six shows and nothings to have,

1419
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 7: and then this is a show where I feel like

1420
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 7: I've watched like ten practices and haven't done a PU

1421
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 7: and you have so much this happened, it's hard to

1422
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 7: like get everything out that you've been observing.

1423
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: Tim our friend from Duncan right saying, looking forward to

1424
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 2: another season, hoping that Drake may well not stepping on

1425
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: his email. I'm hoping that Drake may can somehow get

1426
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 2: the starting nod in Sincy. I'm flying in for the

1427
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: game and as always want to win, and I believe

1428
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: that Drake gives us the best opportunity to win on

1429
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 2: a weekly basis. Am I crazy? I understand the developmental

1430
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: process and initially thought sitting him was probably the best plan.

1431
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: But the more I see, the more I believe Drake

1432
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,479
Speaker 2: is the best option for both the future and now.

1433
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: And he says, by the way, I had a chance

1434
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: to meet Paul, Mike and Evan at the last open practice.

1435
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: They are class guys that made me feel welcome and appreciate. Well,

1436
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: now that Andy's going.

1437
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 3: I don't have time for this.

1438
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's a good question.

1439
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get back to the phones. Dominiques in New York.

1440
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: What's up, Dominique?

1441
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 14: Hey y'all, how you doing good?

1442
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 15: Good?

1443
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 14: I got like a really kind of news question. So

1444
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 14: one of the things I've noticed, especially in the NFL,

1445
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 14: how specific the injury reports are total like a sail injuries,

1446
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 14: et cetera, et cetera. But I've seen in the NHL

1447
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 14: they just kind of name them lower body injury or

1448
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 14: upper body injury. I don't know if you know who

1449
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 14: the reason as to why that is. I don't know

1450
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 14: that something NFL players advocate for, like let's disclosure on

1451
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 14: injury and whatnot. But I've always been curious about it.

1452
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 14: I appreciate it, but I never knew why. You know,

1453
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 14: like in some sports they're just a little bit more

1454
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 14: specific to injuries versus I'll take it up one.

1455
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: All right, dominique. I mean, even within the NFL, it's

1456
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: a team by team thing. Some teams are just more

1457
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: specific with the injury than other teams. I think there's

1458
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: a minimum requirement from the league where you have to

1459
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: at least address the area of the body where the

1460
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: injury is. But other teams get more specific and they'll

1461
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 2: be like, you know, right calf instead.

1462
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 7: Of Brady was a Brady like right shoulder forever. Yeah,

1463
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 7: that was one that was always on there.

1464
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: At least it was the shoulder and not the whole arm,

1465
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 2: you know. But but I think in the NFL it's

1466
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: up to the team to at least meet the minimum requirement,

1467
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: but then they can go into more specific if they want.

1468
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 6: Can I read something to you guys, and I want

1469
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 6: you to tell me what you think. This is from

1470
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 6: Ben Vohen, who tweeted out about a half hour ago

1471
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 6: more missed, miss mixed. Sorry, he said, only stop that

1472
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 6: again and see if I can do it in English.

1473
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 6: More mixed messaging from the Patriots. About Week one, QB

1474
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt says Jacoby Brissette is currently

1475
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 6: the starter, but when asked if it could be Drake

1476
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 6: may he says, quote, I'm sure there's a chance. Okay,

1477
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 6: what's the miss mixed message there?

1478
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: Right?

1479
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 7: So this is a bit, this is a vuln thing,

1480
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 7: no right as of today, to be honest, this is

1481
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 7: not a violent thing.

1482
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 6: And this is something that's sort of like been on

1483
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 6: my mind since postgame Thursday, when Gerard Mayo said, I

1484
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 6: mean Friday was the day after press conference on Friday.

1485
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 6: The competition is still open. I believe That's kind of

1486
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 6: what he said at the start of camp.

1487
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: And then yesterday.

1488
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 6: Again he had to sort of reiterate, no, no, no, Jacoby

1489
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 6: Brissett is QB one right now. He never said Jacoby

1490
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 6: Brissett is starting week one, at least to my knowledge.

1491
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 6: So I don't really know where the miss. Like one

1492
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 6: of the questions he was asked yesterday is like, what

1493
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 6: about the changing message? And I really don't think he's

1494
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 6: changed it.

1495
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: Has anyone asked the direct question is Jacoby Brissett's starting

1496
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: week one?

1497
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 6: I think people asked him if he's made if you

1498
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 6: made a decision on the start or week one?

1499
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 7: I think so.

1500
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1501
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, most of the stuff that I'm seeing on Twitter

1502
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 3: with regard to Van Pelt his videos, like this is

1503
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 3: what he had to say and I, you know, can't

1504
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: do it. Watch a video.

1505
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: Just a quick one that just popped in my head

1506
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: because you're reading Twitter and I read this on Twitter. Probably, Uh,

1507
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 2: there's been a slight uptick on violent threats to players

1508
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: tied to gambling in other words, people losing money and

1509
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 2: oh man, you know, uh targeting, you know, violent threats

1510
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: at athletes.

1511
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like what it's like, was it Colombian soccer

1512
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 7: or what's what's shot.

1513
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: It was an own goal. That was years That was

1514
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: that was years ago. I didn't even think that had

1515
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: anything to do with gambling. They were just pissed.

1516
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 3: I just lost.

1517
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, my food's here. Paul doesn't need anymore,

1518
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: but my food's here. So we'll take a break. It's

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Speaker 2: about halfway through. We'll come back. We'll get to more

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Speaker 2: them call in or something. Just give us a you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't think we need that.

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Speaker 2: You don't need that.

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Speaker 16: Well excited any chance we get to come out here

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Speaker 16: on the field and compete, you know today, I would

1568
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 16: say this week is a little hybrid type of week

1569
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 16: for us as far as preparation, still focusing on an EP,

1570
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 16: but at the same time trying to make sure our

1571
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 16: game planning and all.

1572
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 9: That process, the scout remport process go smoothly. So out here.

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Speaker 16: Today you'll see some overse d Some of that stuff

1574
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 16: is card it right, It's carded, so it's like Washington

1575
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 16: plays offensively, defensively, and also special team.

1576
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 17: So from a reps and depth chart perspective, that's why

1577
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 17: I said it is the hybrid of training, camp and

1578
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 17: evaluation and also getting ready for the regular season, So

1579
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 17: you know, everything's evaluated, even the scout team reps are evaluated.

1580
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 9: So we want those guys to give a good look.

1581
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 16: At the same time, we're still evaluating those guys.

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 9: Uh, there's a little work on on Senci.

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01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 16: But you know, as I said earlier, it's still training

1584
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 16: camp for us, and it's about getting us better and

1585
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 16: us on the same page.

1586
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 9: We can't you know, we can't win games.

1587
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 16: Until we figure out what we're doing, and that's the

1588
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 16: goal that everyone is healthy.

1589
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Speaker 18: Is there any thought process into how much time the

1590
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 18: quarterbacks will get and you know, similar to will be

1591
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 18: similar to the game two or a little different.

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01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 9: It'll be a little different.

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01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 16: I want to keep that close to the vest though,

1594
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 16: but all the quarterbacks will playing again with.

1595
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 17: Kendrick, is this situation where you expect them to start

1596
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 17: the season on the anticipate one of those vocal you.

1597
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 16: Know, when those guys are ready to come back, they'll

1598
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 16: be out here practicing and that's the you know, that's

1599
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 16: the hard part. I don't like to put time limits

1600
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 16: or deadlines on it. When they're ready to play and

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01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 16: we get you know, we get them from the weightlifting

1602
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 16: staff and also Jim Whale and his staff.

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Speaker 9: Then we'll go with it. It's the same one. It's

1604
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 9: the same one. I am.

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01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: I gonnas.

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01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 9: So you guys have been here the whole camp.

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 16: But you guys, there is everybody.

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01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 9: You pause the interview. We got to kill this thing. No,

1609
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 9: we do not kill bees or anything else.

1610
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: Had a curious camp worked off to the side. Hasn't

1611
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: been available for some of the days.

1612
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Speaker 19: Is this something from the off season, something happened during

1613
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 19: the spring or in the summer.

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Speaker 16: Here, Uh, that's something that happened during the summer. It's

1615
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 16: I mean, I don't think it's major, but you know,

1616
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 16: put him in the bucket. Once he's ready, he'll go.

1617
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 16: He is dealing with something though.

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01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 7: On the scene lines with Marte Mapu were selling him

1619
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 7: like first day, I want to say, not much sincere,

1620
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 7: what can you tell us context wise what his situation?

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01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, he's one of those guys who I mean,

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Speaker 16: I would love to say day to day, but we're

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01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 16: probably talking weeks, weeks, week to week. I'm sure no

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01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 16: one else ever said that before to you guys, But

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01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 16: week to week.

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Speaker 6: Okay, people say this summer that you don't like the

1627
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 6: term players coach.

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01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 16: I just think I'm an I think I'm going to

1629
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 16: be a great coach. And whether you want to call

1630
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 16: it whatever you want to label it as, I mean,

1631
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 16: more power to you. It's the same thing. You know

1632
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 16: when people say, well it was a black coach. No,

1633
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 16: I want to be a good coach first. That happens

1634
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 16: to be black. That's kind of how I see it.

1635
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 16: I happen to be a player at one point in time.

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Speaker 3: How do you think that manifested itself in.

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Speaker 11: The way you can talk to training?

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01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 8: Can this summer?

1639
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 20: I mean as far as this wasn't a team that

1640
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 20: gave a lot of veteran days off and things like that.

1641
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 16: Yeah, because we just have to get better. You know,

1642
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 16: coming off of last year have kept a bad taste

1643
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 16: in our mouths. We still have a lot of players

1644
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 16: that returned from then, and I almost I would say,

1645
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 16: you know, they want to work and that's the most

1646
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 16: exciting thing for me. They want to be out here

1647
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 16: in past, they want to do live drills and things

1648
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 16: like that. So that's our goal is to be better,

1649
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 16: be a better team this year.

1650
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 6: Playing with Drake this week to have him run some

1651
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 6: of some of them, some of.

1652
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 16: The cards team he can be focused more on now,

1653
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 16: he'll be focused more on Patriots stuff, and he'll be

1654
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 16: focused more on Washington stuff.

1655
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 9: Quite frankly, what.

1656
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 6: Do you want to see from the quarterbacks Drake and

1657
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 6: Jacoby and potentilate this week?

1658
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:56,839
Speaker 9: Yeah? I think it starts with the operation.

1659
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 16: I always say, you know, good huddle, good break, good play,

1660
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 16: and so it starts in the huddle, then getting guys

1661
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 16: lined up and going out there executing the play, you know,

1662
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 16: making the right reads and moving the offense down the field.

1663
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 4: When it comes to that prestat operation for Drake May,

1664
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 4: is he in a place where, if he had to start,

1665
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 4: you feel like he's ready or do you feel like

1666
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 4: he's still kind.

1667
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 16: Of coming along one hundred percent? I think he's ready

1668
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 16: to run a huddle.

1669
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 4: You were very assessment of the offensive line in the

1670
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 4: week of the Philadelphia preseason game. How do you feel

1671
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 4: they've responded over the last couple of days.

1672
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 9: They've responded well.

1673
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 16: And I will say, you know, going back and looking

1674
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 16: at the film the practice, I got that.

1675
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,520
Speaker 9: But if you were to look at the whole body.

1676
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 16: Of work with our offensive line, they've done a good

1677
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 16: job and they're getting better going forward.

1678
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: Between joint practices, preseason games.

1679
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 6: How many snaps do you need to see from a

1680
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 6: guy to say I want him on my team.

1681
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 2: Is there a set number in your mind?

1682
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 9: No, not really in my mind.

1683
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 16: I think, you know, you just want people that love

1684
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 16: football and that will do everything as far as preparation

1685
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 16: in the weight room, in the classroom to get on

1686
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 16: the field.

1687
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 9: Those are the guys that I really want.

1688
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 16: And I'll take a less talented guy that just loves

1689
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 16: the game of football and you know he's gonna get

1690
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 16: better with the high ceiling than a.

1691
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 9: Player who just you know, blessed with a lot of athleticism.

1692
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 9: But it's lazy. So that's how we've.

1693
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 19: Talked about the offensive line you just mentioned Lydon Robinson,

1694
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 19: we've seen work in a little bit more with the

1695
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 19: I guess the ones in theory hate when you're saying that,

1696
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 19: you know, that's why I put it in. Is it

1697
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 19: because of just how he's playing, or is it something

1698
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 19: that you're seeing from city. It seems that's sort.

1699
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,520
Speaker 9: Of you know, I was, you know, it is a competition.

1700
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:18,879
Speaker 9: I would say, you know, he's.

1701
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 16: Strong, you know, a few weeks together here, and that's

1702
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 16: the thing I told these guys, at the beginning of camp,

1703
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,879
Speaker 16: there are more people in this room than there are jobs,

1704
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 16: and so either you're gonna.

1705
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 9: Hold onto your job or someone's gonna take your job.

1706
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 16: And I would say, all those guys have been battling,

1707
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 16: so it's gonna be a tough decision.

1708
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 9: Ladies. First, such a gentleman.

1709
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 18: I asked Michael Wanner right after the first game that

1710
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 18: second game if there was any plan to move in

1711
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 18: the tackle, and he said, he's just been told he's

1712
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 18: at guard for right now. But then we've just on

1713
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 18: work at some tackle this week. What's kind of the

1714
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 18: plan there.

1715
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 16: I would say, Look, we always as coaches reserve the

1716
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 16: right to change our mind, and I don't want that

1717
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 16: to get you know, misconstrued any type of way. But

1718
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 16: you know that was the plan initially. And then you know,

1719
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 16: as we continue to build depth amongst the offensive line,

1720
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 16: we had to move those.

1721
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 18: Guys around Robinson, as you said, stringing some weeks together.

1722
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 16: That No, it has everything to do with us just

1723
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:10,879
Speaker 16: trying to find the right combination.

1724
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, I really appreciate you. Such a gentlemen.

1725
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 6: You brought in several players yesterday, a couple of linebackers,

1726
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 6: wide receiver.

1727
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: What's thought press behind that at this stage of camp.

1728
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 16: Yeah, there's no better you know, evaluation tool than getting

1729
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 16: guys out here eleven v eleven and seeing what they

1730
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 16: can do. You know, we're kind of limited during the

1731
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 16: season to have you know, guys out there because it's

1732
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 16: just a workout in the bubble. And so the thought

1733
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 16: process was look bringing some players that we've identified as

1734
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 16: being you know, potential candidates to be on our team

1735
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 16: and see what.

1736
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 4: They have guys, different guys and figures into it as well.

1737
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 4: But do you anticipate making cuts for the bulk of

1738
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 4: your cuts on Tuesday?

1739
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 9: Maybe a little bit.

1740
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 16: Before with the you know, you know, that's a conversation

1741
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 16: that Ella and I have had. We've gone back and

1742
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 16: forth on how to really do that. What I will

1743
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 16: say is, you know, when you play a Sunday night

1744
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 16: game compared to a Thursday night game, you kind of

1745
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 16: get you know, tight on time. So we'll have those

1746
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 16: discussions here and also on the road before the game with.

1747
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: Those cuts looming.

1748
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 9: Who else the final say to make those cuts? Between

1749
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 9: you and Elliott?

1750
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 16: Yeah, I thought it was pretty clear about this is

1751
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 16: and you know, for me, Elliot and I are on

1752
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 16: the same page. I hope it's always that way. You've heard,

1753
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 16: you know, the horror stories around the league. As far

1754
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 16: as coaching GM relationships are concerned. The final say so

1755
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 16: is Elliott. We collaborate on everything. I mean we collaborate.

1756
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 16: He collaborates on a little bit of scheme things. I

1757
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 16: collaborate with him as far as evaluation. But I lean

1758
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 16: on the experts in that world, and Elliott is that guy.

1759
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 6: Do you need to come out of Sunday night with

1760
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 6: a starting quarterback in your mind and you need to

1761
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 6: tell them that early or what did your plan for that?

1762
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 9: I would say by Monday night we should know who

1763
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 9: the quarterback is.

1764
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 16: You know, Sunday night game it's always hard to really

1765
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 16: crank through the film, you know, especially on the road.

1766
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 16: But I think Monday, Monday, Tuesday, we probably needn't know

1767
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 16: who it is.

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01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 9: Now. That doesn't mean I'll tell you on Monday to day.

1769
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 7: And that defensive tackle spot where you had Christian Barmore

1770
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 7: we talked about Farms and the preseason opener have seemed

1771
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 7: pretty active.

1772
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 9: God show who else anyone else in there that.

1773
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 7: Is catching your eye at that defensive tackle spot inside?

1774
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean you can you can throw Dan in

1775
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 16: there as well. He's one of these guys who you know,

1776
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 16: he's a penetrator. We know exactly what he is and

1777
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 16: he's a good player for us. And we also have

1778
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 16: guys on the perimeter on the outside, I would say

1779
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 16: that can slide inside on Thard down.

1780
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 9: So those are all things that that we've thought there.

1781
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 5: When someone accidentally threw the school play costumes, replacements were

1782
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 5: shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, everyone

1783
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 5: could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where now

1784
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 5: it's next for residential delivery only and now great moments in.

1785
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 6: History only been on a team like Brandon Cooks. Yeah,

1786
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 6: change his teams every year. I'm just might not that

1787
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 6: knowledge of a system forget that's again. I was given

1788
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 6: direct the props, that's right. I don't understand what his

1789
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 6: age has to do with anything.

1790
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 2: I think his age has to do with a lot

1791
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: of it's and you're talking trade. I think another team

1792
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: is taking into consideration.

1793
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 6: The guy's age, right, don't why because he's old, because

1794
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 6: he doesn't know my system, that's what you said. This

1795
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 6: is the only thing that I disagree he said is

1796
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 6: that he's more valuable to the Patriots, because that's right,

1797
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 6: and that's nothing to do with age.

1798
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 2: But at his age, he has less to contribute to

1799
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 2: another team, the Patriots.

1800
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 3: I agree.

1801
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 6: That's why I don't think because he's old.

1802
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 3: About two minutes later, who.

1803
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: Is more valuable to another team with the Patriots?

1804
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:40,759
Speaker 3: The Patriots?

1805
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 2: Why?

1806
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 3: Because he is on the Patriot Get it.

1807
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: You can't even answer, you know, forget it. It's it's over.

1808
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 2: It's okay, so ding ding ding, it's over. Let's move on.

1809
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 3: About five minutes later, that's ridiculous. See, this is what happened.

1810
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: You can't have it. You can't have any because you can't.

1811
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 6: Thank you're not allowed to disagree with Fred. Thank you,

1812
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,879
Speaker 6: you're not allowed don't disagree.

1813
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 2: Thanks for giving me credit for that.

1814
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 6: Don't disagree, Fred, I'm sorry, appreciate. I'm sure I hurt

1815
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 6: your feelings by disagreeing with you.

1816
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm I don't think I sound like the one who's

1817
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 2: upset here.

1818
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 3: No oh no, you very much sound like the one

1819
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 3: who's upset. That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous.

1820
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 2: We just like that ended at something. I mean, it's

1821
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: like it's like I have to put down a vampire

1822
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: exactly like it keeps coming back exactly.

1823
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 3: Get decided hard, you've decided that it's still.

1824
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

1825
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 2: If anyone had a floater in their eye. Oh yeah,

1826
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh yeah, I've never had one until now,

1827
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 2: freaking annoying. Yeah yeah, no, mine looks like andy right now.

1828
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 2: It's like looking at me.

1829
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 7: You can't they can't get it out. They can't flush it.

1830
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 2: Or no, you can't. No, it's not on your eye.

1831
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: It's in your eye of floating one. You can't flush

1832
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: him out. No, this isn't I thought this happened on Monday.

1833
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 2: I thought it was something on my eyes. I'm trying

1834
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 2: to get it out. So I went to the optometrist

1835
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 2: and he said, no, this is It either goes away

1836
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 2: on its own or you just learned to live with it.

1837
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 7: When I had when I had floaters as a kid,

1838
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 7: my mom always told me to flush him.

1839
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: I was that was no, No, that's not a floater though,

1840
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 2: that's something that's like an eyelash or left me behind.

1841
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 3: You didn't, that was that was comic genius said.

1842
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 6: When I was and I had a float on, my

1843
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 6: mom always told me to flush them.

1844
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about something else that you're talking about

1845
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: potty potty talk.

1846
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 7: You didn't blink.

1847
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 2: I was no, because that's what I was trying to do.

1848
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 2: I was trying to flush my eye out, and it

1849
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: wasn't leaving it, you know, But it's it's annoying. Floaters

1850
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 2: get flushed, that's yeah. Have you had ever had a floater?

1851
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No bugging my eye like junking

1852
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: your eyes. No, this is in your eye, it's not

1853
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: on your So just go away. Eventually, sometimes they don't.

1854
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 2: They just he said, you just get used to him,

1855
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 2: and you never you don't notice him anymore. I don't

1856
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: see how you wouldn't notice. It's your freaking vision.

1857
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 7: With your buy Knox, watch him from the press box

1858
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 7: getting the curse words blogout. You're gonna have that floater

1859
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 7: and anyway something random.

1860
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to my left is no socks. To talk

1861
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 2: about him a lot. He does wear socks when he

1862
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: wears sneakers, though, that's the that's the irony of the

1863
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: whole thing. When he wears shoes, no sock. But Matt

1864
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: Smith is here, and the reason why he's here is

1865
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: we're going to introduce him as the new host of

1866
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: the pre and postgame show, So welcome aboard, Matt. Although, Matt,

1867
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 2: how long have you been.

1868
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 3: With the team?

1869
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 2: A little over twenty years? A little over twenty years.

1870
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: All access the preseason games and a lot of the

1871
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: long form videos that we do, for example, the Brady

1872
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 2: sit down with his family that we did for the

1873
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 2: that's all Matt Smith. He does all that stuff behind it.

1874
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: But just because he's behind the scenes doesn't mean he

1875
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 2: doesn't have opinions and he's going to bring them hard.

1876
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 2: I'm the preseason I'm the point for these.

1877
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 3: Two and do not worry everybody.

1878
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 6: We will still have a period of Jaws talk every week.

1879
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 3: We're getting mad up.

1880
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 7: He's been brushing out.

1881
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 2: He watched it. Just because you're the host and you know,

1882
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 2: the point guard doesn't mean I don't want you to

1883
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 2: have your own opinions, no problem.

1884
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 7: It's a challenging thing. Fred, and I know you've hosted

1885
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 7: this for a while, but I you know, when I

1886
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,839
Speaker 7: filled in format for a couple of the pre pregame

1887
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 7: shows too, you know, cart out some space for yourself

1888
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 7: to express what you're you know what I mean. It's

1889
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 7: easy for me. Yeah, yeah, well, you know it's just

1890
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 7: it's it's I feel like it's an art form that

1891
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 7: that's on a hard.

1892
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 6: And I will also say, as we came back from

1893
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 6: break there and that was a great moment in PU

1894
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 6: history there. I'm not always as irrationally angry, uh when

1895
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 6: I'm when I'm talking about things as I wasn't that

1896
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 6: that we need to get rid of that clip?

1897
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 3: That might be my all time worst. I was real,

1898
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 3: I would make me laugh too hard, that I was

1899
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 3: Fred and I were in circles.

1900
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: I was. None of us look good when we get

1901
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 2: into those things.

1902
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 3: I think we have good arguments sometimes and we just

1903
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 3: kind of move on. That one was really I was

1904
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 3: really bad in that one. I was pointless.

1905
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 7: Was I even on the show at that part?

1906
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: Was just there with yeah, oh yeah, that was a

1907
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: really bad one with Megan or whoever it was, Alex

1908
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: or when Paul and I got going and you guys

1909
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 2: first started, it was like, oh my god, yeah, the

1910
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 2: parents are fighting. Yeah, but you don't understand that's what

1911
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: we do.

1912
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 7: What No, I got it now. I just enjoy it.

1913
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 9: I mean, I.

1914
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 3: Usually they have a point. I was really bad in

1915
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 3: that clip.

1916
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 2: You mean, like, do rivers have Tides.

1917
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 3: That was Andy.

1918
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 7: I know Andy was talking about rivers have ties. He said,

1919
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 7: people still to this day something they like. Yell at him,

1920
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 7: you still like tides?

1921
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, he'll post something random on Twitter about his son

1922
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 6: or something like does he believe in tides?

1923
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 2: So, Matt, what you're following? Uh, Big Shoes hard a

1924
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 2: lot of people. We've had a lot of hosts for

1925
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 2: the Postgame Show, but I don't think anyone was it.

1926
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 2: Why do you think that what do you think that

1927
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 2: that is? Is that something about you guys?

1928
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 3: Because Fread's the kingmaker?

1929
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 13: No?

1930
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: No, no, so you want to make them the kingmaker?

1931
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 6: Maybe?

1932
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: Do they want to leave on their own? Is there? Well? Yeah,

1933
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: they get they get better opportunity. Correct. But Hardy was

1934
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: here for a number of years. I think I don't

1935
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 2: think of all, I think he was the most universally loved.

1936
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 2: Everyone loved, heart and agree more.

1937
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 3: I think Big Shoes never heard anybody say anything really bad.

1938
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a rare trait.

1939
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 7: Uh.

1940
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 2: So, Matt, what are you going to bring to the show?

1941
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 2: What's your what's your plan? Well?

1942
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 21: I think the first thing is to try to fit

1943
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 21: in because there's a successful operation that's going on.

1944
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: So it's not about one person.

1945
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 21: In derailing what obviously has worked for very many years,

1946
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 21: what you guys have built up. So you're not going

1947
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 21: to come in guns of blazing right out of the way.

1948
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 21: But I would hope that as things go on there's

1949
01:24:55,560 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 21: a level of analysis that differs from what they do

1950
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 21: just be you know, Paul hates everything. Mike is certainly

1951
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 21: more measured, and I would say I'm closer to Mike

1952
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 21: from a measured standpoint.

1953
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 2: Maybe with a little bit more venom. Is that fair?

1954
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 7: I think it's fair. Yeah, that sounds I mean, So

1955
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 7: to paint the picture, Matt and Paul sit next to

1956
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 7: each other and I sit a cross so there's a

1957
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 7: little little area in between, and I always call it

1958
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 7: the speed trap because these two are figuring out the

1959
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 7: problems of the world in that little area and it's

1960
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 7: easy to just get stuck and talking with them about

1961
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 7: the troubles of the world. So you guys have a

1962
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 7: good and like you mentioned, pass from the past. That's

1963
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 7: a you know, you guys have chemistry as well for

1964
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 7: a while, and people should know you from that as well.

1965
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's a no, it's I mean, there's already

1966
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 7: a little bit of a dynamic. I think that that.

1967
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: Give us two truths and a lie.

1968
01:25:58,240 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 7: He's got some good ones.

1969
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to I apologize, Fred. Is that me?

1970
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 2: It's truth and a lie?

1971
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1972
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 2: About you? About you?

1973
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 7: Hm?

1974
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 21: Ask Mike about again, just to give you I'm unprepared

1975
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 21: for that question.

1976
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 2: You got to give me a second.

1977
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 21: Two truths and a lie.

1978
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 7: I can think of some good truths for you, Matt.

1979
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 7: I don't want to. I don't want to stumble on you.

1980
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 7: But there's there's a couple of m.

1981
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 3: It could be simple stuff.

1982
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:33,480
Speaker 2: How about the lie would be to get it?

1983
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 6: It's like I attended Boston University. I played baseball in college.

1984
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 6: I was drafted in the fifth round.

1985
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 21: Yeah, I need to get up to speed on that

1986
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 21: best two truths and a lie? Yeah right, okay, all right,

1987
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 21: I okay, give me two seconds.

1988
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 7: I would say too while you're thinking, Matt. Another interesting

1989
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 7: thing about Matt is that being where you've been, I

1990
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 7: feel like you have had a lot of really interesting

1991
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 7: access over the years of things that you've seen or

1992
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 7: nobody's here, nobody's I mean, you're you're like, I mean

1993
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 7: you have ownership, head coaches, I mean, people are just

1994
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 7: cycling through the studio at all hours of every day,

1995
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 7: and they're always coming to see you. And you know

1996
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 7: you you see and hear a lot of things.

1997
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 2: No question.

1998
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,799
Speaker 7: When people here you speak, they should understand.

1999
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 3: Tom Brady Knight, I appreciate that. Hey, Babe, how you doing?

2000
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 7: You got a babe doing?

2001
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 9: Babe?

2002
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 7: Didn't get the kiss?

2003
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 3: Though only Fred can get the kiss?

2004
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: Did you get a kiss? No? Oh you did?

2005
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 9: Wow?

2006
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 3: Not that previously?

2007
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 21: Okay, here we go. I was born in Wyoming. I

2008
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 21: grew up in New Hampshire, and my first job out

2009
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 21: of school was selling insurance.

2010
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 2: Uh the insurance.

2011
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 3: Why born in Wyoming?

2012
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 9: Why?

2013
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 3: Why born in Wyoming?

2014
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 2: Why? Okay? But one another thing that people should know

2015
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 2: about you is you're an Orioles fan. I like the

2016
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: logo Fred like I don't live and die with the team.

2017
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 21: Although here's why I would be an Orioles fan if

2018
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 21: somebody's gonna push me into it.

2019
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: The first baseball.

2020
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 21: Game I ever attended with my father was in nineteen

2021
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 21: seventy one at Fenway Park. And my father ran a

2022
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 21: hotel in Florida in spring training and he sometimes befriended.

2023
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 21: It was the Yankees in the day, and he befriended

2024
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 21: a guy by the name of Billy Hunter.

2025
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 2: Who was the third base coach.

2026
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 21: So this is not with all kinds of security, everything

2027
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 21: centuries ago. And he goes up to a security guard

2028
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 21: and he goes, hey, could you tell Billy Hunter that

2029
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 21: Bud Smith's here to say hi? And so the security guard, oh,

2030
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 21: you I've heard that all the time, brings a note

2031
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 21: and Billy Hunter comes out, Come on in my dad

2032
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 21: and little Matt Smith, Matt, I want you to meet

2033
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 21: Jim Palmer. Say hi to Jim Palmer. Hey, Matt, say

2034
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 21: how to Frank Robinson. Hey, Matt, this is Brooks Robinson.

2035
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 21: What team do you think i'd move for?

2036
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 2: Right now? Listen, that is a perfect example of you

2037
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: get him young, right, and you have that in person

2038
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: memory right and they're hooked. Yes, yeah, no question.

2039
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 7: Yeah me here, I remember that same thing.

2040
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2041
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean just burn in my brain. The

2042
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 7: first time I walked up to the entrance of the

2043
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 7: old stadium and the way that it sat on the

2044
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 7: top of the hill close to the highway, I just

2045
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 7: you know, I've been to Fendway, I've been to the

2046
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 7: Boston Garden, but there's just something about that where it's

2047
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 7: like a castle hill, so much going on.

2048
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: I guarantee you at that joint practice, somebody became an

2049
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: Eagles fan because they got up close and personal with

2050
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts.

2051
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, hopefully Patriots.

2052
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 21: Fans and I would hope the same thing when they

2053
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 21: got a chance to meet Drake May. Yeah, you know

2054
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 21: and jump in get in early.

2055
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2056
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's that. That's why these memorabilia conventions and

2057
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: you know, you buy cards or you buy autographs, that's

2058
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 2: not memorabilia. There's no memory at crouched to it, right,

2059
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 2: No I don't.

2060
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 7: I don't still have it. But if I did, it

2061
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:42,600
Speaker 7: was just a white Patriots one of those little inflatable

2062
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 7: footballs that I got at the game. But it was

2063
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 7: you know, that was always the trigger. And I mean

2064
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 7: I still like that's I always just remind myself of

2065
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 7: like thinking back to that person. Some day you're gonna

2066
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 7: be a part of all this. That's how cool is that.

2067
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: That's kind a similar to My dad had a hardware

2068
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 2: store in New York and Brooklyn, and when I was

2069
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,640
Speaker 2: a little kid, I go in and work there and

2070
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 2: make keys for people. And one day I'm in the

2071
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 2: back and my father calls me up front and he

2072
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 2: introduces me to Gil Hodges, you know, and Gil signs

2073
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 2: the thing. We framed it, and it's like, I'm a

2074
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: Mets fan, you know.

2075
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 6: It's like going Happy Days when Howard Cunningham had the

2076
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 6: hardware store and Hank Aaron came there.

2077
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 3: You go, It's like the same thing, It's the same

2078
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 3: must have gotten it from you.

2079
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 2: He probably did, probably did.

2080
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 6: So everybody's like, you think there was really an episode

2081
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 6: of Happy Days where Hank Aaron came in the county.

2082
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I didn't just make that up.

2083
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 2: So so congrats, you know, welcome to the thank you

2084
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 2: and post game. You'll be debuting Sunday night.

2085
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 20: Yep, so you're right into the fire, right into the

2086
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 20: fire on Sunday Night. Lake Game pre season week three.

2087
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 20: I'm gonna tiptoe into this one. Might have a special

2088
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 20: guest for you on that first pre game. You bring

2089
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 20: in your own guests.

2090
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 21: Now we're efforting that, we're efforting that it's trending in

2091
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 21: the right direction. I know Paul is not a big

2092
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 21: fan of guest and I understand that, but it.

2093
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 2: Takes away from his time.

2094
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 21: This one might be a little bit be a little

2095
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 21: bit different.

2096
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 2: One might be a little different.

2097
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 6: So I would say I am not a fan of

2098
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 6: the the player interview.

2099
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,560
Speaker 2: I know, and I do like we have a guest.

2100
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: The reporters are terrific.

2101
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 6: We we do have a guest every week. Uh, you

2102
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 6: know we we used to call it behind enemy Lines.

2103
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 6: I know that's kind of do still call it that.

2104
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 6: I still think it's it's okay because we're not being literal,

2105
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 6: We're not talking about actual war, and I think we

2106
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 6: still play. Yeah, we're all adults. We can understand the

2107
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 6: difference between you know, what's real and what's you know,

2108
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 6: funding games and sports. I think that's one of our

2109
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 6: best segments of the pregame. Bring in the out of

2110
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 6: town writer. I think I always learn a lot, so

2111
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 6: I assume that listeners are going to learn something too.

2112
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 2: I think that's a great Dave, great.

2113
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 3: Buzzy came in and it's always even.

2114
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 2: He's an Eagles guy for a long time.

2115
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 3: Philadelphia. He's been around for a long time.

2116
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 2: A little bit better looking.

2117
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 3: Well that goes.

2118
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 6: Without saying, but they when they when it's a home

2119
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 6: game and they come down to be in the studio,

2120
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 6: it's even better, Yes, creed even better Greed.

2121
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 21: So, Mike, I'm going to ask you a question here.

2122
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 21: Girod says that the we're gonna we need to play

2123
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 21: What do you what does it? What does that mean

2124
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 21: to you? How do you read that for Sunday Night?

2125
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 7: I read it is Jacoby Rissett is gonna go a

2126
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 7: couple of series, and May is gonna go, like I say,

2127
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 7: like a couple series, few series that be Milton time,

2128
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 7: you know, And I hope that Joe Milton makes it

2129
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 7: interesting for us. That's what I'm hoping for in the

2130
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 7: second half that you know. I think he got a

2131
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 7: lot of buzz after that first appearance and the last

2132
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 7: appearance not so much. And it's been really quiet for

2133
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 7: him ever since that hype train kind of left. I'd

2134
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 7: like to see him progress a little bit, like to

2135
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 7: see him get out there. And you know, I mean,

2136
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 7: we got to find something that we got to focus

2137
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 7: on in the second half.

2138
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 21: You know, has Evan checked in and taken attendance? What's

2139
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 21: the deal with the left tech that there's.

2140
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 7: No tweeting from practice? So I guess we could effort.

2141
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 2: Just give him a text, tell McCall into the show,

2142
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 2: give him the number.

2143
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 21: His boy Bart tweets up a storm during practice. Is

2144
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 21: he does he violated during practice?

2145
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 3: We're not supposed to do it during practice?

2146
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 2: Now does it all the time? Well, in the past,

2147
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 2: once the fans left.

2148
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when you Okay, so it changed.

2149
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 2: Okay, you could do it during regular plenty.

2150
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 21: If the fans are here, you could do it because

2151
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 21: there's no way to prohibit Johnny fan from doing Jane.

2152
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 2: So all right, eight five five, pass five hundred.

2153
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 6: Back to like, I know this is going to give

2154
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 6: the number no, no, I know, but like I wanted to,

2155
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 6: you know, touch base on Matt's sort of question about

2156
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 6: what we're expecting to see.

2157
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 3: I know this is going to be our show Sunday night.

2158
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Sure, but do you.

2159
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 6: Think if Brissett goes out there and starts, and you know,

2160
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 6: they put together a reason, you know, maybe they stack

2161
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 6: a couple of first downs, he's out right after that?

2162
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 21: Like I think, I think, I think he gets another series.

2163
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 2: How about that I think he plays Do you.

2164
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 3: Have you know?

2165
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 6: Because I always don't be offended by this is always

2166
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 6: the question I ask Fred no, because sometimes you know,

2167
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,640
Speaker 6: the people that are at a larger state.

2168
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 3: You know, don't they know stuff than us? We don't

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Speaker 3: know stuff. You guys know stuff. Both of you.

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Speaker 6: You have the ability to talk to you. I always

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Speaker 6: ask Fred, is this from some this is not some

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Speaker 6: inside knowledge? Okay, so I'd be surprised. I think that

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Speaker 6: they might both be done by the end of the

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Speaker 6: first quarter.

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Speaker 21: You still get two series in each. If you do

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Speaker 21: that possible well first quarter, that would really worry me.

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Speaker 21: Then I mean, you went three and otight times.

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Speaker 2: Maybe and our defense would have had to be real good.

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Speaker 3: Probably.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I think that they they probably want to

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Speaker 6: see a glimmer of production from the question. That's why

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Speaker 6: I say, if they get like two first downs, you know,

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Speaker 6: maybe three, you know, ten plays out, you know, and

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Speaker 6: then may you want to get him, you know, get

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Speaker 6: you got to get him some work just because he

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Speaker 6: needs the work. And then you know, you got to

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Speaker 6: get all the guys out of there. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's still a preseason game. You don't want to risk it.

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Speaker 7: Evan. Evan said he can call in, but he wanted

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Speaker 7: to remind us that we are technically not supposed to

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Speaker 7: tweet until after practice.

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Speaker 2: I didn't ask him, not the christ tweet.

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Speaker 21: But you know, let's stay stay within the stay within

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Speaker 21: the real there's no need especial.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's all right, Let's leave that one alone, right.

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Speaker 9: All right?

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Speaker 13: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Vincent and North Carolina writes and longtime listener love the show.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a concern about the scheduling you mentioned earlier?

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01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 2: While you, Paul and Mike are essential to the show,

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Speaker 2: the energy Evan brings is crucial regardless of the take.

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Speaker 2: A call in from the sideline probably wouldn't have the

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Speaker 2: same effect. Could another high energy football first mine be

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Speaker 2: on the horizon for the show. By the way, Mike

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Speaker 2: des so with a five year jump and probably the

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Speaker 2: best offseason of any Patriot this year. Congratulations Mike, the

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Speaker 2: five year.

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Speaker 7: Jump, five years jump?

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Speaker 9: Fine?

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Speaker 3: Nice? That was Andy? Hardis you jump?

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Speaker 7: I do you think though? That's a funny thing? Like

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Speaker 7: you know, when the cock eyed optimist in me gets

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01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 7: like what about this guy? And then like Paul loves overmind,

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01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 7: like these guys don't break out in their six years dudes?

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Speaker 2: You know? Like probably right? All right? A five five

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Speaker 2: pats five hundred is the age ticket hout line. Kendall's

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Speaker 2: in North Carolina hate Kendall.

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Speaker 22: Hey, what's going on? Guys?

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Speaker 7: Hey Kennel?

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Speaker 15: Hey, I got a question by that on the FI shows,

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Speaker 15: like what this year, who's gonna be the cast for

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Speaker 15: I'm gonna just I'm living this year. Who's gonna be

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Speaker 15: the cast for the pres in the post game?

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Speaker 2: Well you're looking at three of them right here. So

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Speaker 2: you have Matt Smith, Mike you So, and Paul Parrillo

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Speaker 2: and you know Wrinkling it's maroon.

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Speaker 7: Various roles were figuring that out.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, and for post getting the same same crew. Okay,

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Speaker 2: And I'll be stopping in on the home'll be here

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Speaker 2: for home games and for home games, I'll stop in.

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Speaker 22: Oh okay. And one more question, is there anything that

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Speaker 22: Nate with play like you against? And they played like

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01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 22: they could kitchen a couple of balls of a sudden,

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Speaker 22: they watched it, and who do you think they were?

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Speaker 22: Starting with hit Manny?

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Speaker 7: I don't see it.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I just I think it's Jacoby Brissett. I'm barring gjury

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Speaker 7: set getting hurt. I just think all this like speculation.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is.

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Speaker 7: Nothing's really changed. The reps have basically remained the same,

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Speaker 7: you know. That's and that's what they've been telling us

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Speaker 7: the whole time, that this is why they brought Jacoby

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Speaker 7: Presett in.

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Speaker 2: But I think the bigger question that I have, and

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Speaker 2: thanks for the call, Kendill, appreciate it, is why have

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Speaker 2: the reps remained the same? Like why don't we see

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Speaker 2: at least an even split of reps with the with

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Speaker 2: David you know, I say David Andrews because when he's

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Speaker 2: in there, that's the starters.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's a good question. I mean, I

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01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 7: you know, if if it was Bill here, I'd almost

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01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 7: feel like he was doing it as a preventative measure,

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01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 7: not to allow talking points to emerge from that kind

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Speaker 7: of thing, which seems silly to me. But I don't know,

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Speaker 7: it's a good question. I mean, I think I don't

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Speaker 7: think anyone can argue that this has been a legitimate

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Speaker 7: competition on the field. That was back and forth and

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Speaker 7: you know, but but I don't know. I think back

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Speaker 7: to Mac Jones and and Cam Newton. How did that

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Speaker 7: reveal itself? How were those reps?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 7: And because that wasn't even you than you then you

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Speaker 7: it was weird. It was Cam first and then a

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Speaker 7: bunch of Macs. Strange.

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Speaker 2: The word competition is really not accurate. We are waiting

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Speaker 2: for Drake May to be ready. It's not a competition.

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Speaker 21: In order to do that, he hasn't gotten And in

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Speaker 21: order to do that, don't forget, they still have to

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Speaker 21: get Brissette ready to play like he needs that time

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Speaker 21: so great. We're not talking about a finished product here.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 21: He needs as much time to get them ready to

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Speaker 21: be as good as he can.

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Speaker 1: Be, you know.

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Speaker 6: And that's what makes it a little bit different. And

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Speaker 6: I've said this a million times, I know, than the

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Speaker 6: Green Bay examples that were always hit over the head

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Speaker 6: with you know, it's easy to give Jordan Love all

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Speaker 6: the reps and pre season never gonna because Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 6: already knows everything he needs to know. Jacoby Pressett is

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Speaker 6: new to the team. Yes, he has some comfort in

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Speaker 6: this system, but it's been a couple of years and

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Speaker 6: he needs all the work you can get.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough needle to threat.

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Speaker 2: All these all this talk about, well, you know this

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Speaker 2: team did it this way. This Every situation is different,

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Speaker 2: and every quarterback is different. There's no right or wrong way.

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Speaker 2: They're all different because of the person and the situation.

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Speaker 7: Well, the frustrating thing to me, too, is that they

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Speaker 7: thought well, the pack away, and I mean we've talked

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Speaker 7: about this being a pain in the butt, you know that. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 7: the packerway is easy when you have Brett fav and

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Speaker 7: then you have Aaron Rodgers. But I mean, I would

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Speaker 7: say the real packerway, having read the packer Away book,

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Speaker 7: was he knew we wanted Brett far He knew we

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Speaker 7: wanted Brett Farv and that was That was it. That

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Speaker 7: was the packerway. Was I know what quarterback I want.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 2: We tried to do the pack away when we drafted Garoppolo.

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Speaker 2: That was the pack away, but Brady outlived it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he didn't know along with that. Yeah, So anyways, David

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Speaker 2: Bethlehem writes out, how have offensive coaches done so far?

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Speaker 2: Peters and Kugler or is it Coogler? I'm sorry, sound

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Speaker 2: like they're doing fine. What about McAdoo, Underwood a VP.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, everybody talks to them out today

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Speaker 7: they did offensive coaches. We've only really talked to them,

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Speaker 7: I think once.

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Speaker 21: This is he asked me specifically about Prescott.

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Speaker 3: How do they do?

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Speaker 2: How are they doing as a coach?

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Speaker 3: How they're doing is coach?

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Speaker 21: Because why would we say that the offensive line coaches

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Speaker 21: are doing, Like, what's to tell anybody whether they're doing

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Speaker 21: well or not well?

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know about the strike system. You don't know

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Speaker 2: about the strike.

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Speaker 6: System pulling well, you're absolutely right, Like the offense, I'm

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Speaker 6: not saying they're like really at all.

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Speaker 21: But I don't want to sit there and say they're

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Speaker 21: not doing well. But I just I would have trouble with,

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Speaker 21: you know, just taking this person at his word that

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Speaker 21: they're doing fine.

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Speaker 2: I think he doesn't know. I'm a big believer in the.

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Speaker 21: Fact that, look, everybody's interested in the quarterback.

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Speaker 9: I get it.

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Speaker 21: Until they get the offensive line situated, I'm not sure

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Speaker 21: it really is going to matter who's a quarterback, quite honestly,

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Speaker 21: because that's so unsettled, the strike system.

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Speaker 6: There's no way of knowing how those coaches. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I would say, like in two thousand and seven, like

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Speaker 6: I don't know was chattoshade of receivers coach.

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Speaker 3: Nicko Sario might have been. I don't know, Like I

2334
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Speaker 3: don't know, like how did he do that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know?

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Speaker 6: Or is it Randy Moss got twenty three touchdowns and

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Speaker 6: Wes Welcome caught one hundred and twenty passes.

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Speaker 21: Here's here's a patch from the past take by the way,

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Speaker 21: where I think a guy like Peter's.

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Speaker 2: Is going to be in a tough spot.

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Speaker 21: All Patriot fans remember from an offensive line standpoint, is

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Speaker 21: Dante Scarnakia and every offensive line coach is always going

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Speaker 21: to be greater. Well, you know, why don't they just

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01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 21: call Dante, Well, Dante's right down the street. Why don't

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Speaker 21: they bring him in a consult and everything like that.

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Speaker 21: It's not fair to whoever the new people are coming

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Speaker 21: in because Dante is so revered and is everybody in

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Speaker 21: the public knows who he is and knows what his

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Speaker 21: track record was.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I would say, you know, you have

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Speaker 7: to really dig down to But I mean I think

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01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,919
Speaker 7: Drake May has shown progression. I think that's a positive

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01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 7: reflection on the job that they've done. I would say

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Speaker 7: that Jalen Polk has been a productive receiver, and he's

2355
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 7: coming to camp and looks like he gets it. So,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think those things reflect positively. I think

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Speaker 7: that Titan Baker, well, I mean I would say that

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Speaker 7: that might be an issue, that that might be an issue.

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Speaker 6: I think Baker, like if you had to say, right now,

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Speaker 6: one of the week one in actives probably is going

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Speaker 6: to be Javon Baker.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, Mike Paul shows like to say how much has

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Speaker 21: Drake may progressed?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 21: Is the progression enough as we're getting here to August

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01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 21: twenty second, is that enough of a progression for him?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing we were talking before. We know

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Speaker 2: what we see. We don't see what goes on in

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01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 2: the classroom, right and all that stuff, And maybe that's

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Speaker 2: where it's set. Is still clearly ahead of him.

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Speaker 7: I would say I would see this, Matt. I would

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Speaker 7: say I've seen him progress in seven on seven. I've

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Speaker 7: seen him where early on it was a struggle, and

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Speaker 7: I think generally now when he has a seven on

2375
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 7: seven period, there's gould be more good plays than bad plays.

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Speaker 7: It's consistency for me, that's the biggest element for him.

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01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 7: And carry it over into eleven on eleven not as much,

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01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 7: not as much. That's that's the next step. That's where

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Speaker 7: I would say, no, it hasn't gone far enough, But

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Speaker 7: I will give him credit in the seven on seven, Pio.

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Speaker 21: Did he turn the corner in that first seven on

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01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 21: seven and the joint practices against Philly in your po

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Speaker 21: you think he did so on the seven on seven

2384
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 21: you should is where you noticed his progression. No, he

2385
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 21: was pretty good seven on seven in that first joint practice. Yeah,

2386
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 21: I mean, I would say more check back. He was

2387
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 21: really upset with himself after that. When he talked to

2388
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 21: wesn you were in at that meeting on Wednesday, he

2389
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 21: talked about some of that stuff, like he was too

2390
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 21: quick to pull the trigger on the shallow stick and

2391
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 21: didn't wait for it too.

2392
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 2: I remember after that practice, you know, the early reports.

2393
01:43:56,680 --> 01:44:00,040
Speaker 2: I watched walk by a TV and McAfee was on it.

2394
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, reports out of the joint practice in

2395
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 2: Foxborough is that you know, Drake mays nine.

2396
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 6: For nine because he completed a future is completed a

2397
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:12,759
Speaker 6: bunch of passing and no one indicated that like forwards

2398
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 6: to ramondre Stevenson, you know, and and that was like,

2399
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 6: I'm with I think that the game that's where like

2400
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 6: and I don't know if that was something mentally to

2401
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 6: your point, Fred, I don't know what's going on behind

2402
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 6: the scenes, but he's looked like a different guy from

2403
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 6: that game.

2404
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 3: The practice is since last Thursday. It's one week from today, Yep.

2405
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,919
Speaker 7: I think it was them look like a different guy game. Thursday,

2406
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 7: we had a Saturday non padded and then Sunday. I

2407
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 7: think it's actually Sunday that I think it was that

2408
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 7: practice where I think it was only like three reps

2409
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 7: in the red zone of red zone sevens but he

2410
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 7: hit three touchdowns.

2411
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 3: I think it was Jane Bella and.

2412
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,640
Speaker 7: So like that was where it was like okay, like

2413
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 7: but again it's red zone seven on seven. That's where

2414
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 7: I've seen the progress. It's got to carry over and

2415
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 7: that the name of the game to me with him

2416
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 7: is consistency ca and he take his good plays and

2417
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 7: if you look back at a lot of the scouting reports,

2418
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 7: this was something that going back to there inconsistent has

2419
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 7: big plays, then it's a couple of bad plays. So

2420
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 7: I think the results is, you.

2421
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 2: Know, regarding mey says David and Bethlehem, remember swimming in

2422
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 2: a cold lake in New Hampshire. Remain would you rather

2423
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 2: tiptoe in or just dive in?

2424
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 3: Have some experience in cold lakes in New Hampshire.

2425
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm a tiptoe guy.

2426
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 3: Tiptoe tiptoe into cold water.

2427
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 2: I gotta get I gotta get used to it get

2428
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 2: some on the wrists sposed to just stay above that

2429
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 2: nether region level.

2430
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, yeah, no, you're a dive in.

2431
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: You gotta dive in.

2432
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 7: You're a sadist.

2433
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how that's how you do it. You rip

2434
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 2: off that band again.

2435
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 21: I think every situation individually is there's a it's it's

2436
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 21: unique for every single one.

2437
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 2: Let's see, this is a kind of an off Patriots question,

2438
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 2: but still NFL h Nakodi. I think with the NFL

2439
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 2: adding more games to the regular season, well, they haven't yet,

2440
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 2: but they will. Do you think there's a likelihood of

2441
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 2: more teams being added with more games E expansion?

2442
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 7: Yes, no, thirty two teams, eighteen games, two preseason games

2443
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,679
Speaker 7: and let's just stop. Let's agree right.

2444
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 2: There to Yeah, I don't think you'll see more teams,

2445
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 2: but they're definitely going to be going to eighteen games

2446
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 2: at some points.

2447
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:36,720
Speaker 7: Talent pool too, it's like a certain.

2448
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 3: How fast like do you guys, how fast do you

2449
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 3: think that will be?

2450
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 21: Chance it could be next I think there's a chance

2451
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 21: it could be next year, could be next year. I

2452
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 21: think there's a chance it could be I think within

2453
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:47,599
Speaker 21: two years later.

2454
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 6: Than continuing to take out bread and butter away. It's

2455
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:51,879
Speaker 6: awful be down to two off permanently.

2456
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there'll be two special games.

2457
01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 7: Doesn't this special?

2458
01:46:58,600 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2459
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 21: Is there a threat of anybody? I'm thinking about it?

2460
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 21: Like Nashville's got a new stadium going up, Buffalo's got

2461
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 21: a new stadium going up. Looks like Jacksonville has made

2462
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 21: peace with the town.

2463
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 2: Is there any town or team holding a town hostage?

2464
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 21: Am I missing somebody that where there's a chance to move?

2465
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 21: Kansas City that's never gonna have a I mean probably

2466
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 21: not gonna in cages, but that'll get done.

2467
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 2: Is that it like there's no real time.

2468
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 3: He's got a new place coming huh yeah.

2469
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 21: Where there's actually less seats than in the current place,

2470
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 21: is what I was told.

2471
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 3: So I think that's a trend.

2472
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,799
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, how much smaller demand?

2473
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 2: Maybe ten thousand?

2474
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 7: I mean, how many seats are they cut out of

2475
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 7: this place since they opened in two thousand?

2476
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 3: This is first show and what are we doing five years?

2477
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 7: Jump off?

2478
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 9: Now?

2479
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 2: You made me lose my trying to thought.

2480
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 6: It's gonna go Robert on the West Wing?

2481
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 8: It was.

2482
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:01,640
Speaker 2: It was along the lines of the oh so n

2483
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,799
Speaker 2: C double a football they're gonna be adding twelve teams

2484
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. I think that's gonna be Well, we're

2485
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 2: gonna have twelve teams, they're gonna have twelve the playoffs.

2486
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:11,719
Speaker 3: It's actually gonna be sixteen.

2487
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 2: So obviously that's exciting. I think people are jazzed about that.

2488
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 2: What's the NFL thinking about that? Oh, you're gonna try to, you.

2489
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 7: Know, take some of our money team money, right, So then.

2490
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Okay, you know, we have more Saturday games. Now,

2491
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 2: we have Christmas games, now we have like, is the

2492
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,759
Speaker 2: NFL thinking not so fast in cuble a, We're gonna

2493
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna come at you now on Saturdays.

2494
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 7: Well maybe eighteen games would allow you to push things

2495
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 7: out a little bit. So literally, the playoff crunch is

2496
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 7: the second and third week of January, you know, and

2497
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 7: that's when you're you know, those games are and you

2498
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 7: just kind of have to share.

2499
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 2: But I just want to how the NFL feels about

2500
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,919
Speaker 2: this n C double A playoff.

2501
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, I mean when you focused for World Dominata,

2502
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 10: I know that's that's the bottom line, right, But you know,

2503
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 10: in some ways, I guess you could pitch that it's

2504
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 10: good that it's you know, you're getting to know young

2505
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 10: players that are going to be coming into the league

2506
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 10: and it's a showcase.

2507
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:10,520
Speaker 2: Well, historically the league is always given Saturday to college,

2508
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 2: you know, only until the end of the season, when

2509
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 2: colleges are done that they start playing on Saturday. But

2510
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 2: I wonder if they might go back on that now.

2511
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:22,760
Speaker 6: But it's not like their expanded playoff is intruding on

2512
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 6: the NFL.

2513
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 21: Well, I mean they might see it as they might

2514
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,679
Speaker 21: see it as such though yeah, no, And I wonder

2515
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 21: if some of these newer owners who are coming in

2516
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 21: where the price tag is so much and they get

2517
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 21: in and if Brian Rollop says, well, we don't play

2518
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 21: on Saturdays, or who Dell says we don't play on Saturdays,

2519
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 21: and that when it goes why don't we play on Saturdays, Well,

2520
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 21: because we have We've never played on Saturdays.

2521
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:46,719
Speaker 2: That's not a good enoffort because the league is making

2522
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 2: so much money now on these standalones, these standalone games. Yeah,

2523
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 2: more of those who have the more money.

2524
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 6: In practice, I'm not dismissing yet. And I know they

2525
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 6: always claim that they breaking records. I don't buy it

2526
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 6: most of the time. But my point is like in

2527
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 6: the the playoffs sysnet they have now the NCAA goes

2528
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 6: out of their way to not conflict.

2529
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 9: At the end.

2530
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 3: They don't want to because they know that they don't

2531
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 3: also know they'll get buried.

2532
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 2: They'll get buried.

2533
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:18,480
Speaker 6: Like the Clemson Georgia game is not going to outdo

2534
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 6: an NFL game if if if it's you know, running

2535
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 6: running opposite head to head. So you know, they they

2536
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 6: go on New Year's Eve when there's no NFL games,

2537
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 6: you know, they go out of their way. It's that

2538
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 6: that that one that that last the championship is that

2539
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 6: Monday after the regular season when there's no Monday night game.

2540
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 6: That's not an accident. And my guess is they'll do

2541
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,440
Speaker 6: the same thing with the early rounds of the playoffs.

2542
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 6: They'll find, you know, creative ways to avoid.

2543
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 2: How you're going to watch these games, like are they

2544
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 2: going to be on streaming services that?

2545
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2546
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,719
Speaker 21: I think those are regular over the year of games

2547
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 21: right now, but as you know, uh, and maybe it's

2548
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 21: just for the National Championship game, ESPN they have it.

2549
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 2: They do twelve different broadcasts of that National Championship game.

2550
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 23: Yeah, let's see will in Lancaster writes in maybe old

2551
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 23: news but by now, but I'm glad people are calling

2552
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,640
Speaker 23: Elliott wolf out for his press conference.

2553
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,640
Speaker 2: I've been bullish on him and his approach, but his

2554
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 2: answers reminded me of Bills towards the end, where examples

2555
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:27,799
Speaker 2: of needs being filled insulted our intelligence do better, Elliott,

2556
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 2: So what did he say that was so insulting?

2557
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 7: I think he clap back at Greg Bedard, Which of

2558
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 7: those hasn't happened?

2559
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 2: Extra points for me?

2560
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 7: Yes, I just put it under the same banner as

2561
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 7: I put mail. These are two young guys in new jobs.

2562
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 7: I mean, I think Elliott when he got to the

2563
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 7: podium was like, thanks for having me like you could.

2564
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 7: They're not comfortable doing this yet, and it's a learning

2565
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 7: experience and I'm sure good point Stacy's you know, up

2566
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 7: through his eyeballs, trying to manage and make sure that

2567
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 7: they understand that you have to choose your words very carefully.

2568
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 7: And probably both of them would do wealth to be like,

2569
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 7: let's we'll see right, That's what Bill used to do.

2570
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 7: We'll see, you know, and you leave it to that.

2571
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 6: You know, where's trouble really excelled is in those spots

2572
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 6: where he clearly didn't want to answer a question, he

2573
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 6: had an unbelievable ability.

2574
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 3: To wait you out.

2575
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 2: Yeah he would.

2576
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 3: He would do that what Mike just said, like we'll

2577
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 3: see stare at.

2578
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 6: It right and everybody would just be like waiting for

2579
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 6: the rest, and he'd I'm perfectly content going fifteen seconds

2580
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:32,799
Speaker 6: without saying anything.

2581
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have another question.

2582
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 7: Well, he already covered that.

2583
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, a lot of lawyers when they

2584
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 2: have like their client on the stand, they coached them

2585
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:47,640
Speaker 2: only answer what you're asked and don't elaborate. Yep, you know.

2586
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 2: And Bill is almost like you know, somebody on the

2587
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 2: stand answering questions under oath.

2588
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 21: He was masterful of just taking the last four or

2589
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 21: five Like if your question was one of those long

2590
01:52:58,800 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 21: thirty second jobs.

2591
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:01,719
Speaker 2: In the last five seconds, said.

2592
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 21: Asked him about whether he likes peanut butter and jelly sandwiches,

2593
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 21: he was going to answer about the peanut butter and

2594
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 21: jelly sandwiches and forget about everything else.

2595
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 2: Unless it was Super Bowl, then all of a sudden

2596
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:14,600
Speaker 2: different Bill would open up Friday Bills. Bill's like a

2597
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 2: new guy.

2598
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 7: Here Friday football history questions that's somebody put a whole

2599
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 7: book together, that's Fridays with Bill, which I just it

2600
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 7: was just compiling the football in the press conferences. Yeah,

2601
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 7: it's great, I mean, and it's nothing, you know, just

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01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 7: the press conferences of you know, the really in depth

2603
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 7: football stuff. When he get on a tangent.

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01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 3: Someone was at the press conference.

2605
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 2: Because I put it right to sleep.

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01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 6: Do you remember that time we got the transcript and

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01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 6: there was like one of an answer on like gunners like.

2608
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:47,600
Speaker 23: This, People are like, oh my god, knowledge.

2609
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:50,560
Speaker 3: Really, you get a guy who's been a coach in

2610
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 3: the NFL for fifty years, knows a little something about football, right,

2611
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 3: he's won you know, six sixth.

2612
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 21: Title, and and do you think he'd rather give you

2613
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 21: fourth words on the gunner or four thousand words in

2614
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 21: the fact that his offense can't get out of its

2615
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 21: own way.

2616
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 3: Who's winning the quarterback battle currently?

2617
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 2: Right? Well, you welcome those questions exactly. And then it's

2618
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 2: a filibuster, philipbuster. Let's see, this is Nayton Nate. He's

2619
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 2: in Connecticut. I think the old line will get a

2620
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 2: lot better a few weeks into the season. I think

2621
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 2: Wallace and Robinson will move into the starting lineup and

2622
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 2: drastically improve the old line I also disagree with Evan

2623
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 2: on the final wide receiver a roster spots. Evan keeps

2624
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 2: saying he doesn't think Booty will make the team because

2625
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 2: there are multiple receivers on the team that can do

2626
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 2: what he does, whereas Thornton is one of the only

2627
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 2: receivers who can stretch the field. The problem I have

2628
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 2: with that viewpoint is I would rather have the player

2629
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 2: who is more productive, even if it offers some skilled

2630
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 2: redundancy on the field.

2631
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 6: Well, I think that that would be Thornton based on

2632
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 6: training camp.

2633
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 21: I was going to ask you, guys, is he if

2634
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 21: you've done your projected T three yet?

2635
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 3: But Fred I told me I need to Maybe.

2636
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 2: They need to differentiate what Evan's done. You can show so.

2637
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 6: Much of the same Thornton I would have on you, Mike, yeah, Paul,

2638
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 6: I mean Fred, No, Booty is my guy out he'd

2639
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 6: be Fred Yeah, I would.

2640
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 2: I would give Thornton.

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01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 6: I think there's a chance that both of them make it.

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01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 6: I think that there's a chance that born In because

2643
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 6: of born On p up and they keep seven. Now,

2644
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 6: seven to me is an insanely high number, but they don't.

2645
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 2: Neither those you guys are gonna play specialty?

2646
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 6: Are you gonna cut born in Thornton so you can

2647
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 6: keep Christian Ellis or you know.

2648
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 7: Now too many questions of the position, And I mean

2649
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 7: our sellas dial. I think what I said to gardis like,

2650
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 7: if you have seven, you have none. I just I

2651
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 7: think that you need to have some you know, guys

2652
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 7: to kind of work through. And like I said at

2653
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 7: the top of the show, I think like Rager and

2654
01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 7: Thornton will kind of work on the outside. But yeah,

2655
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 7: I mean other than one in three, that's not a

2656
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 7: lot that really moves my needle. And I mean, I

2657
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 7: know we can talk about one. That's probably a debate

2658
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 7: for another day. But outside of those two guys, I mean,

2659
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 7: there's nobody that I'm like, there's this is impossible. We

2660
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 7: couldn't even go into the season without Taekwondon right like

2661
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 7: one and three. After that, I don't know, it's a

2662
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:21,280
Speaker 7: whole lot of Yeah, we'll see Jeff and Canada.

2663
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 2: What's more likely the record is nine and eight or

2664
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 2: three and fourteen. Three and fourteen more likely than nine

2665
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 2: and eight. Okay, that's a five, that's a five to

2666
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 2: six question.

2667
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 3: It's probably a better topic enough.

2668
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 7: These questions though that people come up with were like,

2669
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 7: I'm going to trick you into saying the Patriots stink.

2670
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I think the better chances of that.

2671
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 7: What was it last year?

2672
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 2: Four?

2673
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 3: One four? Last year?

2674
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 2: What's more likely TD passes Brissett with ten plus or

2675
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 2: May with twenty plus?

2676
01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 7: A ten?

2677
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:03,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going with with May twenty plus.

2678
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say resette because I'm not sure how many

2679
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 6: games May is gonna.

2680
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with with Paul. What's more likely defense

2681
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 2: finishes ranked top five or bottom ten?

2682
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 3: Top five, top five?

2683
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 6: Everybody see like, well, bottom ten. I don't think the

2684
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 6: defense will stink.

2685
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 21: Okay, all right, I could see that defense being I

2686
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 21: could see that defense being ten.

2687
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2688
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 2: What's more likely most touchdowns by unit ride receivers or

2689
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 2: tight ends? Tight end? That's a good question.

2690
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 7: I would say tight ends. Tight ends because I think

2691
01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 7: Austin Hooper is uh. I mean, he's been dinged up,

2692
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 7: but I think he's I mean, to me, he kind

2693
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 7: of looks and maybe I'm underselling Hunter Henry, but he

2694
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 7: looks every bit as effective in this offense as Hunter

2695
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 7: Henry has been I don't know. Maybe I'm taking the

2696
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 7: cheese again on that second? Why tight end?

2697
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:53,960
Speaker 2: But why did you think last year was that? Did

2698
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 2: you take it on Joey last year?

2699
01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 7: No, I'm taking it more on. I mean, I just

2700
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 7: knew that was always going to be a tall, skinny

2701
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 7: inside guy and.

2702
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 2: Email funny, all right.

2703
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:10,080
Speaker 7: But Hooper's just he's been one of the more consistent guys.

2704
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 7: I mean, he was up and down in the joint

2705
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 7: joint practice, but he just seems to know where to

2706
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,839
Speaker 7: be and he seems to kind of connect with Brissette

2707
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 7: in a way that I would almost say, I'm not

2708
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 7: sure Hunter Henry does.

2709
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 6: I feel like tight ends are generally red zone targets,

2710
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 6: no question, So I'm.

2711
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 3: Going to go tight.

2712
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 2: Cody in Indiana makey making fun of Eldred. Oh yeahs,

2713
01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 2: He says, quick game for all of you. All you

2714
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 2: have to do is fill in the following players. Green

2715
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 2: is someone who should be making more money. Indigo is

2716
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 2: someone born in February. Jar Truce is someone who plays

2717
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 2: primarily on the defensive line and wears his socks too high.

2718
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 2: Orange is someone whose favorite fruit is orange, and black

2719
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 2: is someone whose name rhymes with the name of a

2720
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 2: country in eastern Africa. I'll take it.

2721
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 3: Offline, Cody.

2722
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 7: Would Chad single qualify for that one? Huh, it's Chad's

2723
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,160
Speaker 7: a country in Africa's Chad. Chad does rhyme with Chad doesn't.

2724
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 2: That's true? Yeah, but is it interesting? I don't know.

2725
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 2: Jeff writes in quick Revenue Generating Idea, how about launching

2726
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 2: a Patriots filtered? Uh? Filtered? He said, I think it's

2727
01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 2: been donefiltered, but podcast subscription. It could be a version

2728
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 2: that filters out any audio featuring Evan, remove that unmistakable frequency,

2729
01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 2: and preserve the quality content for his fans on Catch

2730
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:38,800
Speaker 2: twenty two. I'd subscribe on day one. Seriously, take my money. Wow.

2731
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 7: We all have our fans and our detractors.

2732
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 2: Right.

2733
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 7: We had one guy wrote in that said it has

2734
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 7: we have to have Evan in here.

2735
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 8: Right.

2736
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 7: We have another guy's as you have to be.

2737
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:48,080
Speaker 3: Someone wrote that in today.

2738
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. He said he was worried about the new schedule

2739
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 2: because we miss his viewpoint. Even if you disagree with it,

2740
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 2: he thinks it's valuable.

2741
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 3: And I agree my big call opinions.

2742
01:59:58,080 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 2: No, I agree, So I don't know what we're going

2743
01:59:59,800 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 2: to do.

2744
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 3: Yere yes, you will.

2745
02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 2: I think, I think, oh my.

2746
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 7: God, it's two o'clock.

2747
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh geez, it is too. Does Matt play you

2748
02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 2: guys off when it? You know, like, shouldn't it be?

2749
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 7: He's sleeping Usually Friday ends it early because he's got

2750
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 7: Matt's got a visitor right now, so he's preoccupied.

2751
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 2: But listen, that's going to be it for this edition

2752
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered, the pre and postgame show Sunday night.

2753
02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 2: What are going to be starting.

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02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:26,360
Speaker 3: Five thirty five thirty.

2755
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:30,280
Speaker 2: Five thirty Yeah, yeah, Paul didn't tell me that half

2756
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 2: hour and a half. Okay, game half hour.

2757
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:35,880
Speaker 6: We have to go a half an hour ahead of

2758
02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:38,560
Speaker 6: game time during pre season because we have to switch

2759
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:39,840
Speaker 6: the stuff the.

2760
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 2: Streams, encoders and streams, got it streams, So make sure

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02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 2: you tune in.

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02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:45,600
Speaker 3: Eaven with a national game that's the same, right.

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02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 2: Yes, NBC game, But we're going to be only.

2764
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 3: We're only fifteen minutes before the.

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02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, right is all right? We will see you next Tuesday.

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02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:01,760
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