Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick
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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here it is. It's a Thursday
Speaker 1: inside the s to BBC podcast studio at the Star
Speaker 1: and Frisco, And Mickey says, it's chili chili when I
Speaker 1: got here. You go stand out there and do the
Speaker 1: interview with Dak and still in the shade. Sixty eight
Speaker 1: degrees outside. It is not sixty eight degrees. Go stand
Speaker 1: out there. The windshield want you to go sixty nine.
Speaker 1: Wanted to see how quickly you come back here. Do
Speaker 1: they have parkas on out there? No, they do not.
Speaker 1: It's a matter of fact. Rob Phillips had a long
Speaker 1: sleeve shirt on. He went back to his desk and
Speaker 1: got his jacket guy, and he had to go all
Speaker 1: the way back upstairs to get it too. Is it
Speaker 1: is this like ox and hard weather? Back to ox
Speaker 1: and RD. Yes, that's what it feels like all right.
Speaker 1: After the sun goes down. The sun goes down right, Ok,
Speaker 1: fourteen mile an hour wind right now, see there, fourteen
Speaker 1: fourteen mile an hour, which drops that wind chill from
Speaker 1: sixty eight to sixty seven. I bet six. All right,
Speaker 1: So that's the Weather Service right now says it's sixty eight.
Speaker 1: It feels like sixty eight decreases. Well, the National weather
Speaker 1: the National Weather Service is it here coming from the south.
Speaker 1: It's dropping precipitously because on my phone the temperature is
Speaker 1: sixty five. Diggers there, God, he is going down. Guys,
Speaker 1: here we go. All right, we're just getting ready for
Speaker 1: the metal Lands weather NFC East weather football and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were outside today. Yes, they were in shells in shadows,
Speaker 1: full practice. They only have two padded practices left, meaning
Speaker 1: available for the last one this week. They're not using
Speaker 1: one this week. So wait, they have only so many
Speaker 1: They have a year a season. So this you mean
Speaker 1: like padded padded, so shoulder pads this week? No, they
Speaker 1: have two this week. No, No, no two through the
Speaker 1: rest of the sea because left. So they got one
Speaker 1: next week and then one the week after that per week. No, No,
Speaker 1: in total. I just can't get my mind wrapped around
Speaker 1: this man. Why what happened? Well, they used one a
Speaker 1: week because you can only have one a week. Wow,
Speaker 1: for seventeen weeks. Eighteen weeks. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: gave him another, but no, no, no, it was like
Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen ticket for the season, thirteen or fourteen.
Speaker 1: That's it. You know what you saw like you saw
Speaker 1: like Flozell Adams. And I saw him a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I said, you know, they could use
Speaker 1: a backup tackle. He goes, no, No, I'm done. I said,
Speaker 1: but you know you might not have to play and
Speaker 1: you only have to practice. He goes, yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: practice and put on pads. I go, no, only once
Speaker 1: a week. And he looked at me like what I said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: one padded practice a week, not even that, and not
Speaker 1: even that for every week, right, And he's going, m
Speaker 1: maybe I'll take you up on that. Maybe I'll take
Speaker 1: him up. Give me a break. I can just sit
Speaker 1: back then in dime and just play middle middle fields.
Speaker 1: In the field. You don't need your pads. There's no tackle,
Speaker 1: there's no tackle. I don't have to actually tackle him,
Speaker 1: all right, So to let you know what happened in practice, uh,
Speaker 1: obviously no, Tyrn Smith, no Cedric Wilson and Sean McEwan
Speaker 1: is out there, so it looks like he, probably with
Speaker 1: that neck injury, is ready to go. Tony Pollard came
Speaker 1: out with Zeke. When the guys were doing stretch. Zeke
Speaker 1: got on the stationary bike. Pollard worked out with Britt
Speaker 1: Brown on the cords, but when they went into some
Speaker 1: of the skeleton drills and individual drills, he had his
Speaker 1: helmet on, his shells on, and he was taking turns
Speaker 1: with Zeke. Okay, so I think at least limited today,
Speaker 1: and I think that might bode well if he comes
Speaker 1: out of it. Okay, Donovan Wilson was back, looked like
Speaker 1: back in practice. Now. I don't know if he would
Speaker 1: be just limited, but at least he was out there
Speaker 1: taking parts in the practice. And Zeke was doing individual
Speaker 1: drills and skeleton drills and didn't seem to be having
Speaker 1: any problems. So that's kind of your injury update because
Speaker 1: from yesterday, and they didn't practice yesterday, right because they
Speaker 1: were tired, indoors, tired, resting their legs. I can't work
Speaker 1: too hard. Yeah, so that's why they had a lesser
Speaker 1: practice today because they didn't practice yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely and the Giants one, two, three, four. Five guys
Speaker 1: didn't practice yesterday and there's was basically a walkthrough also,
Speaker 1: so five guys couldn't even do the walkthrough. Uh, and
Speaker 1: then they had three other guys limited and now they've
Speaker 1: got six guys COVID COVIDNA say what's the COVID count
Speaker 1: on both squads? So wow, boys won Cedric Wilson, Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson and looks like six or so at this point,
Speaker 1: although some guys could get back in time. Uh. There,
Speaker 1: I believe he's the safety. See if I can say this,
Speaker 1: Ocehan zeminous? Uh is close contact? How did I do?
Speaker 1: Did good? Good? Good? You don't even know what it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be. He's looking Yeah, he's looking out right.
Speaker 1: He's not a safety. Oh okay, linebacker. I wrote it
Speaker 1: down phonetically, so I got it, you know. Uh? Is
Speaker 1: it just the holidays? Is that why? I don't know
Speaker 1: what's happen? They've had a hundred so far this Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then jump in the league. So on Monday seven,
Speaker 1: now that was one day, three days, seventy three days
Speaker 1: in a row. It got up to almost one hundred
Speaker 1: span about thirty five a day, Yes, seventy five hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the way it was. Yes, So the Giants are
Speaker 1: without Cadarius Tony and John Ross, two of their better
Speaker 1: wide receivers, linebacker Cam Brown. Uh and then Aaron Robinson
Speaker 1: was out and there are one, two, three, four, Dorry
Speaker 1: Jackson seven or Dorry Jackson they got seven teams right
Speaker 1: now are in advanced COVID protocol, meaning they're virtual meetings
Speaker 1: masked up. Can't be in the facility other than the practice.
Speaker 1: Uh so yeah, yeah, a Dory a Dory Jackson is
Speaker 1: out with a quiet in one of those cots right exactly.
Speaker 1: And then we've seen this coming, but we've seen this before.
Speaker 1: So is the NFL are they They're getting close? Yes,
Speaker 1: they're getting close to coming down with more stringent protocols.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, the NFL observer was here today.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was in town for the NFL meetings
Speaker 1: and he but he comes in like once a month
Speaker 1: to observe not only practice, like who's out there, who's
Speaker 1: around the practice, how many people that aren't players out there?
Speaker 1: And walks through the facility over there to see the
Speaker 1: cameras are up and how they're conducting themselves elves. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know they've come out and basically telling the staff,
Speaker 1: Tier one, Tier two staff, you got to get your
Speaker 1: booster by December twenty seventh. And Mike mentioned yesterday that
Speaker 1: head athletic trainer Jim Mauer talked to the team before
Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday explaining the importance of the booster. Can't
Speaker 1: can't mandate it, but can tell how important it is
Speaker 1: and so social distancing. I mean, you know it's the holidays,
Speaker 1: you know, Thanksgiving and that Christmas is coming up. Just
Speaker 1: gotta be even more careful. I've got a question about
Speaker 1: the booster. At what point after you get the booster
Speaker 1: shot does it take effect? Because when you when you
Speaker 1: got your original, it was two weeks after your second shot,
Speaker 1: right right, So when you and it was four weeks
Speaker 1: in betweens, it was like a six week process. So
Speaker 1: I think I saw something about ten days. All right.
Speaker 1: So if the if you've got the deadline of December
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, the season, the regular season ends on January ninth,
Speaker 1: and so if someone aren't there two games in January, yeah,
Speaker 1: January second, in January ninth, Okay, all right, So if
Speaker 1: the deadline is December twenty seventh for the teams that
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs that the booster doesn't take a
Speaker 1: if you if you wait until they're not worth if
Speaker 1: you wait until December twenty seventh. You know, if that's
Speaker 1: the date, then it doesn't take affect nine days after.
Speaker 1: It's not the players, it's the staff. December twenty seventh
Speaker 1: on the booster. Okay, but I'm talking about the staff.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, so if you're if you're gonna set
Speaker 1: a date, if you got to get the booster, go
Speaker 1: it to have it effect on the season. Do it earlier,
Speaker 1: and you know why. I mean, if you're gonna you
Speaker 1: could It doesn't take long, right, you can go to
Speaker 1: CVS and get a boost. Just got one to go
Speaker 1: to walgraun last night and he got up this morning.
Speaker 1: Anyway he might have got it because what the the uh?
Speaker 1: And he went to CBS. Yeah, yeah, was it seals
Speaker 1: doctor Sells, the NFL guy medical director. He was basically saying,
Speaker 1: if you have just the regular vaccination, at some point
Speaker 1: it starts wearing down. It doesn't wear off, but it
Speaker 1: wears down. And so yeah, you can go and get
Speaker 1: the booster and you'd be good to go, at least
Speaker 1: a little bit more confident. Let's put it there, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much confidence exactly, all right, So
Speaker 1: that's your medical update, no doctors. As it pertains to
Speaker 1: Sunday's game. There is one guy who is on the
Speaker 1: Giants close contact list who is out of practice right now,
Speaker 1: and that's the safety Xavier McKinney. He has not tested positive,
Speaker 1: but he because there I believe there's a safety or
Speaker 1: two in there. He's a close contact and so um
Speaker 1: Joe Judge expressed today that as long as McKinney doesn't
Speaker 1: test positive this week, he's confident he'll be able to
Speaker 1: play on Sunday, right and right now he's out the
Speaker 1: close contact and so and that's that's a significant player
Speaker 1: for the Giants. I mean, when you look at the Giants,
Speaker 1: they're two wins in the last five weeks over Philadelphia
Speaker 1: and Las Vegas. They were plus four. They had four
Speaker 1: takeaways against Philadelphia and they had three takeaways against Vegas.
Speaker 1: And he had three interceptions in those two wins. Xavier McKinney,
Speaker 1: the safety out of Alabama, is a really good player.
Speaker 1: So they had basically five starters that weren't practicing yesterday.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens today. Sequon Barkley, Daniel Jones, Austin
Speaker 1: Johnson defensive lineman, and Doory Jackson and Graham Gano their
Speaker 1: kicker was out too. The other guy that it's not
Speaker 1: COVID but on their defensive line, Leonard Williams. Williams, Yes, um,
Speaker 1: and they're they're, they're, they're um and they and I
Speaker 1: guess Dexter Lawrence, right, he's a guy that they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out because they had three first round picks
Speaker 1: and two of them have already flamed out, so they're
Speaker 1: hoping we may flamed out like they weren't worth the crap. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wrote that because if that's if they aren't what
Speaker 1: the crap, then that's bad uh scouting. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Well, it was three three first
Speaker 1: round picks from twenty nineteen. Okay, so the jury is
Speaker 1: still out on Daniel Jones, right. The first one DeAndre Baker. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not even I don't even know if he's on
Speaker 1: the team. Uh. I had some off the field this year, right,
Speaker 1: and they got rid of him already. So that's the
Speaker 1: first Dexter Lawrence, and there's a question mark on how
Speaker 1: good he is. Yea bel Man. You spent the first
Speaker 1: round pick and traded people away to get those picks. Guys,
Speaker 1: I think it was the Odell Beckham junior and you
Speaker 1: fire Jason Garrett. Yeah he was he was the problem.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Jason going to Jacksonville? They
Speaker 1: gotta do something culture, that's what it sounds like. It
Speaker 1: sounds there. I mean there, you got to fix the
Speaker 1: culture there. Yeah, and yeah, he would be good for that.
Speaker 1: He would be good for them, just get him. But
Speaker 1: you gotta have patience with your coach in Jacksonville. You
Speaker 1: know that they think it's gonna happen overnight. And and
Speaker 1: you know, you fire your coach thirteen games in. You
Speaker 1: knew after the fourth game that he was not the guy.
Speaker 1: They were just hoping he wouldn't screw up again before
Speaker 1: the season was over, and he couldn't even do that.
Speaker 1: So I know, I if Jason went down there, I
Speaker 1: think it'd be good for the organization, But the organization
Speaker 1: would have to be patient, right and and think about
Speaker 1: this to all the stuff that's took place, uh with
Speaker 1: Meyer Urban Meyer. If they were eleven and two, he's
Speaker 1: still he's still the coach, right even if he kicked
Speaker 1: the kicker and called him a dip ass. He did so.
Speaker 1: But here's my thing. When I look at the team,
Speaker 1: I don't see improvement. You know, you got a quarterback there,
Speaker 1: you got sunshine, and uh he hadn't gotten anything better, right,
Speaker 1: so you know you hadn't gotten anything better. So you
Speaker 1: need somebody that's a good quarterback. I'm talking about it
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, absolutely, Byron Leftwich. Byron Leftwich as a
Speaker 1: head coach. I don't even know who coordinator? Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he beat the Cowboys pretty bad. No, that's a no
Speaker 1: brainer right there. To me, he really is. So let
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay season play out. He's offensive coordinator there,
Speaker 1: and I think he would be a prime candidate in Jacks. Remember,
Speaker 1: everybody loves him, you know remember that. Yeah, Marshall wasn't
Speaker 1: when they were Lima carried the him to the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage on like a last two minute drive. I've
Speaker 1: never seen that before. They picked him up and carried
Speaker 1: him from play to play and he got out there.
Speaker 1: I believe they won that game. Did you help Dion
Speaker 1: recruit that cornerback? Did not? But I'm proud of him.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of him. Yeah when you bring that up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dion has never been a guy that I was patting
Speaker 1: myself after. But when you look at what he's done
Speaker 1: as a family man. He went through a couple of
Speaker 1: you know, went through a divorce of course, but his
Speaker 1: kids seemed to be very well balanced. He brought his
Speaker 1: kid with him. He's a quarterback for Jackson State, and
Speaker 1: you know, let's just be real, he produces everywhere it goes,
Speaker 1: and at Jackson State, not just the swat needed it,
Speaker 1: but the all HBCUs. We need this influx of these
Speaker 1: professional players coming back and coaching. You good with Hugh Johnson,
Speaker 1: Hugh jack jack Sorry, I am good with Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: because to me, he's a guy a lot like Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: You know, winning is important, but he's always been about
Speaker 1: the players. He's always been about the players. And he's
Speaker 1: gotten screwed a few times because he tipped that stance.
Speaker 1: So I hope he's he continued. I hope he stayed
Speaker 1: in that manner. And you know, it's a way to
Speaker 1: make a difference when you go to an HBCU, because
Speaker 1: you're talking about legacy you're not just talking about winning,
Speaker 1: you're talking about legacy. Well, I've always talked about you
Speaker 1: graduate first, you carry yourself as a grammar night before
Speaker 1: you play as one. And so football was always there.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's it's it's sports. Like like what I've said,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna catch eighty thousand people coming to watch
Speaker 1: the geometry class, you know. So it's about football, yes,
Speaker 1: But when it's all said and done, we also realize
Speaker 1: once these young men finished, they're just another black man
Speaker 1: trying to go into society. So we want to make
Speaker 1: sure you're ready for it. And I think Hugh Jackson's
Speaker 1: the guy that can continue that that little culture. So unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Dak's probably doing this media session right now, right now.
Speaker 1: He comes back last, and so when I came in,
Speaker 1: he was thinking and say, hey, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: He's at you. You can see him. How about this
Speaker 1: from from Zach Zack Martin. They asked him about Neville
Speaker 1: Gallimore and he said, uh, he's a dense human being.
Speaker 1: Yeah he didn't body type, Yes, that's a dense human being.
Speaker 1: They compliment, right, he did. He did clarify that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think everybody knew what he was talking now, it's
Speaker 1: that's amazing, the way he's playing. I hadn't seen the play, Like,
Speaker 1: when's the last time you've seen the play like that
Speaker 1: in the pros? In the pros, I mean we've seen
Speaker 1: the LT we've seen you know, of course Boston this year.
Speaker 1: But you heard two people in one play, that's right,
Speaker 1: he did I ever seen that? And they didn't return?
Speaker 1: He did not. I mean they were laid out. You
Speaker 1: get two people laid out. Mandy Gregy's over there just
Speaker 1: dying either, No, I don't think so. And and and
Speaker 1: speaking of Gregory, so he wanted to tell ask him
Speaker 1: about the team's identity now is defense? And he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, we want to go there. He said,
Speaker 1: let's put it this way. I'm very proud of where
Speaker 1: the defense is right now. And it's like, okay, good answer.
Speaker 1: And then he went on to talk about how much
Speaker 1: confidence he had in the offense and that they still
Speaker 1: have room to improve. Uh, and just think about all
Speaker 1: those guys playing together. You know, they hadn't been together
Speaker 1: that lay had they got four games to basically get
Speaker 1: ready for. Oh, we're not supposed to just mention playoffs either.
Speaker 1: Here Mike morning after ten wins after ten wins something, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: good Brad, Brad. I knew where Brad was going, like
Speaker 1: he was going to ask him if you don't you
Speaker 1: talk to the players about playoffs or the you know,
Speaker 1: the contingencies out there, and he stopped him the middle
Speaker 1: of the sentence as soon as he said playoffs, and
Speaker 1: he goes, yes, we're not gonna talk about that until
Speaker 1: we have our tenth win. That's right, because that guarantees
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Don't use that word, he said, his point
Speaker 1: it worked last week. Oh he didn't use that word
Speaker 1: last week either, but we always always reported that either.
Speaker 1: This point was if you if you win ten games
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you have a chance, a good chance,
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up in the playoffs. Not necessarily, especially
Speaker 1: with especially with seven teams and now seventeen games, he said,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I have to go till eleven.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you get an extra team in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Two seven teams in the playoffs. All right, there's much
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Speaker 1: and T Stadium. There's a lot of football being played
Speaker 1: this week. You know. The Cowboys are away from AT
Speaker 1: and T Stadium over a month, basically a full month period,
Speaker 1: from Thanksgiving until the day after Christmas. Next home game
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Speaker 1: twelve state championship games being played at AT and T
Speaker 1: Stadium starting yeesterday, yesterday yesterday. There's three every day Wednesday
Speaker 1: through Saturday, and ever since said he's going out there
Speaker 1: on Saturday, I'll be at the sock game at eleven
Speaker 1: South Cliff plays Liberty Hill at eleven am Saturday. Duckinville
Speaker 1: has the rematch against Galena Park north Shore, north Shore,
Speaker 1: and that's the rematch from the from the Hell Mary Hill, Mary,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I told you I spoke
Speaker 1: at the Duckerville's banquet after that, did you? I did,
Speaker 1: And of course I had to bring up the San
Speaker 1: Francisco game just to let them know how there's life
Speaker 1: after in the perspective. And as I was bringing that up,
Speaker 1: one guy in the stand goes, that was you. That
Speaker 1: was you. Yeah, dude, that's what I'm telling the story.
Speaker 1: So their head coach Sample sangin old Samples he U.
Speaker 1: It was like maybe a week or two after. I
Speaker 1: don't know why he was here at the Star, but
Speaker 1: it was around the time before Jason's press conference. I'd
Speaker 1: have been a Coach of the Year deal it might
Speaker 1: have been. And they had they were they were hit
Speaker 1: and he came walking in and I saw him, and uh,
Speaker 1: I just went up to him and I said, Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I said, but uh,
Speaker 1: you did a phenomenal job to actually do an interview
Speaker 1: after that game after that, because he carried himself awfully well.
Speaker 1: And I was like, if it was me, I don't
Speaker 1: think I could look. He didn't look at it as
Speaker 1: any other loss, but it was you know, he used
Speaker 1: the same jargon, right, you know, but you know, down deep,
Speaker 1: it was hard to say. And so just to bring
Speaker 1: the perspective on this, UH, Reginald Samples, he's been at
Speaker 1: Duncanville for several years now and this will be his
Speaker 1: third state title game, UH, in the last four years
Speaker 1: at Skyline, and he actually was before that, but he
Speaker 1: was at Skyline prior to Duncanville, and prior to that
Speaker 1: he was at Lincoln and South o'cliffe is playing in
Speaker 1: the state championship game. The last time a d I
Speaker 1: s D School won a UIL state championship was nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty Sunset High School or the last time they were
Speaker 1: able to keep a state championship Dallas Carter in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty eight. That just gets everybody goes past that, right, right,
Speaker 1: Carter being converse Judson, When you have those great player
Speaker 1: might have been one of the best high school teams
Speaker 1: in the same they got to take it away because
Speaker 1: of the things off the field they didn't know to
Speaker 1: do with how good they were on the front and
Speaker 1: U and Jesse Armstead was on that team, that Carter
Speaker 1: team in nineteen eighty eight. The DISD school made it
Speaker 1: to the state championship game in two thousand and four
Speaker 1: and Reginald Samples was the head coach of the Lincoln
Speaker 1: team was led by Byron Eton, who was a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Eton was a great basketball player at Oklahoma State. They
Speaker 1: lost it on an double overtime against Kilgore on a
Speaker 1: blocked field goal attempt that was returned for a touchdown. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's let let's put things uh. Also, let's let's talk
Speaker 1: about another one. If I were not mistaken High Park Field,
Speaker 1: was that Sample's team with the controversial on sidekick? You
Speaker 1: remember it was no No, it was yeah skyline against
Speaker 1: South Lake Carol. Yeah, and controversial on side kick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't. I was there and I can't. I was
Speaker 1: there too. I remember how that it was a uh
Speaker 1: when past ten yards it didn't go ten yards and
Speaker 1: didn't something like that? Yeah like that. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: very controversial as well. So that was. But Samples has
Speaker 1: had these all these close calls and has not won
Speaker 1: a state championship and he is considered the godfather of
Speaker 1: coaches in the area. And Jason Todd, who is the
Speaker 1: head coach at South oak Cliffe, was on Sample's staff
Speaker 1: for ten years at Lincoln and then at Skyline and
Speaker 1: got the South Old Cliff job in South oak Cliffe
Speaker 1: now is playing in the state championship game. You guys
Speaker 1: are selling tickets to Saturday well, and then well, here's
Speaker 1: the other thing, is um the Saturday night game, Austin
Speaker 1: Westlake is playing Denton Guyer. Austin Westlake might have the
Speaker 1: best high school football team I've ever seen. And Todd
Speaker 1: Dodge is the head coach there and it's going to
Speaker 1: be his last game. He's retiring at the end of
Speaker 1: the season. And uh, and so not to move on
Speaker 1: to No, he's retiring from coaching and so Westlake. I
Speaker 1: mean they've been weekend. Yeah, old enough to retire, he's not.
Speaker 1: I was thinking he must be moving on. I didn't
Speaker 1: think he was that old. He's really not. He had
Speaker 1: helped issue a year or two ago, and so he's
Speaker 1: decided that this is it for now anyway, because he
Speaker 1: can't be like early sixties, right, he's probably maybe late
Speaker 1: fifties or sixty. He was nineteen eighty one out of
Speaker 1: Port Arthur so or whatever. That would be still forty
Speaker 1: years ago. He's probably fifty eight or so. Yeah, so nice. Anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, they get you up to speed on everything
Speaker 1: that's going on out there. I like that before WrestleMania, says, um,
Speaker 1: all right, how what concerns you about the Giants this week?
Speaker 1: What concerns me is the Cowboys? Yeah? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into another Denver game. It's
Speaker 1: too late for that to have that kind of setback.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see us as a team, and
Speaker 1: that could go for any of these uh instwing games.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see us go back to old habits.
Speaker 1: We've got a little issue at the quarterback position, with
Speaker 1: the passing game una offensive line. But you know, this
Speaker 1: is the moment to where we understand what our problems are.
Speaker 1: Let's just move forward with him and every NFL team
Speaker 1: does it. Let's not keep acting like we're so delicate
Speaker 1: and put together so shakily to where we can't survive,
Speaker 1: you know, just a little bit of adversity. So you know,
Speaker 1: let's just go forward. And what helps you with that
Speaker 1: is having a good defense. Okay, I guess my question is, uh,
Speaker 1: from a coaching perspective, what is a more nerve wracking
Speaker 1: game for a coach when you're playing when you're going
Speaker 1: up against the Giants this week. Yeah, or let's say
Speaker 1: Arizona two weeks after that. Yeah, this game game four nine,
Speaker 1: uh and and and Mike talked about what he was
Speaker 1: concerned most about with the Giants defense with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: trying to get their offense going. He said, they're, uh,
Speaker 1: they've they've played every defensive front that's available in football,
Speaker 1: so they're they're multiple, right, they don't do the same
Speaker 1: three man two four linebackers four or three. They play
Speaker 1: a lot of different fronts. They probably moved the front
Speaker 1: to try to confuse the offensive line. Uh. That was
Speaker 1: his concern for him, to get the offense ready to
Speaker 1: face their multiple all yeah, yeah, yeah, so uh, because
Speaker 1: you know, with the injuries they have, the COVID they
Speaker 1: have that they haven't been very good offensively so far
Speaker 1: this year. Um, you just got to take care of yourself,
Speaker 1: I think from from that standpoint, and don't go out
Speaker 1: there and flop around, turn the ball over, give them
Speaker 1: easy touchdowns, things like that, and you would be able
Speaker 1: to take care of yourself. I think that's why, you know,
Speaker 1: we would just trying to say nothing worried me. It
Speaker 1: worries us about the Giants. It's the Cowboys, you know.
Speaker 1: So the last game that we do, they're last games. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they they've they've won a couple of them. But
Speaker 1: they scored twenty five points uh to beat Carolina twenty
Speaker 1: five to three. And then they've scored seventeen twenty three
Speaker 1: and a win over the Raiders. Uh. Ten against Philadelphia
Speaker 1: thirteen and a win oh no, that was over ten
Speaker 1: was Tampa Bay and then nine and twenty one in
Speaker 1: the loss of the Chargers. Why did do the NFC
Speaker 1: East teams have the problems with the Raiders? Have they
Speaker 1: beaten anybody else other than the NFC East? What's the
Speaker 1: deal for the Giants beat the Raiders? Yeah, so I'm saying, why, well,
Speaker 1: you know, if the Giants can beat them, why can't
Speaker 1: anybody else? Yeah? So, well, Washington beat the Raiders too,
Speaker 1: they beat them, So Cowboys, the problem is the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can't beat Uh. Here's the common denominator in their two
Speaker 1: wins though against the rate the Giants. Their win over
Speaker 1: the Raiders, they had three takeaways. There went over Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts in Philadelphia they had four takeaways, and the other
Speaker 1: games they had zero takeaways the last two weeks against
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Dolphins and lost both those games.
Speaker 1: I mean they were they got blown out by the Chargers.
Speaker 1: It was thirty seven to seven before they scored two
Speaker 1: dance to make it thirty seven to twenty one. And
Speaker 1: so Freddie Kitchen in the answer to that, Well, and
Speaker 1: then Mike Glennon's is quarterbacking and uh, his career record
Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback in this league is six and
Speaker 1: twenty three. And now we saw how is that? Now?
Speaker 1: We saw Glennon earlier this season, as we all recalled,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones got knocked out of the game here, sae
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley got knocked out of the game here. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Barkley was out for the next six weeks. He's
Speaker 1: he's back now, um, and so they do have a
Speaker 1: healthier Barkley. Now, Well, didn't Glen Glennon led him to
Speaker 1: those late touchdowns right against the Giants because it looks like, okay,
Speaker 1: it was forty four to twenty. It was like forty
Speaker 1: four to seven I think at some point or forty
Speaker 1: four to ten. Well, that's when the second he threw
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass to Anthony Brown. If I remember correctly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Did he throw one ton Cadarius Tony because
Speaker 1: I think he had a pretty good game against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Forgot he did that, guys, that's the only way they
Speaker 1: covered him extra Yeah, you know, he's an amazing athlete. Oh,
Speaker 1: just he's a dynamic player. Just the touchdown pass Glennon
Speaker 1: threw against the Cowboys was to devant A Booker, the
Speaker 1: running back right who came in for Barkley in that game,
Speaker 1: and and Brown sealed the win with the forty five
Speaker 1: yard interception return. Cowboys were at halftime only led that
Speaker 1: game seventeen to ten. Right, it was seventeen to thirteen
Speaker 1: early in the third, and that's when the Cowboys rattled
Speaker 1: off seventeen straight points to That's that's how the Giants play.
Speaker 1: They play you tough in the first half. Even against Tampa,
Speaker 1: they played them tough in the first half. And then
Speaker 1: Yeah that was boying. But you said, I think Tampa
Speaker 1: went on to win by a couple of touchdowns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they won thirty to ten over him. Um, so I
Speaker 1: mean they can hang in there. Right. We got from
Speaker 1: a from a player's step perspective, how do the players
Speaker 1: approach playing a team like the Giants who are four
Speaker 1: and nine. You have to you have to fight trying
Speaker 1: to be greedy. You have to be more controlled, you know.
Speaker 1: You have to be that team that says, the wave
Speaker 1: is coming. We're gonna do what we do. The wave
Speaker 1: is coming. We just can't rush it, you know, just
Speaker 1: like you you spoke, I just said it. Uh. The
Speaker 1: teams are always close in the first half and then
Speaker 1: it's the second half because of the discipline. In the
Speaker 1: second half, the better team always wins. So we just
Speaker 1: have to stay disciplined. We can't come out with the
Speaker 1: same old Let me get the offense warmed up a
Speaker 1: little bit. You gotta crank that thing up. Kind of
Speaker 1: crank that offense up up a little interception. Oh man,
Speaker 1: it's no big deal. Strip sack fother. We're gonna We're
Speaker 1: still trying to crank that thing up. We got the
Speaker 1: white gass. Yeah, yeah, we need to come out. We
Speaker 1: just come out and be solid. Just come out and
Speaker 1: be solid. You use all three fats of the game.
Speaker 1: Nobody get lazy. So it sounds like, yeah, the same
Speaker 1: lawn Moore I had. Yeah, well, the great Joys the
Speaker 1: same I was the same month, but Yeah, we just
Speaker 1: have to come out and be solid. You see it
Speaker 1: happening the better teams, Tampa, Green Bay, they're coming out gramps.
Speaker 1: They're coming out and executing right off the bat. They
Speaker 1: are way past that beginning of the season, mid season,
Speaker 1: we're still trying to get it going. No, they're polished
Speaker 1: right now. And they come out first drive, second drive,
Speaker 1: and they score and they keep the pressure on. That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. You keep the pressure on, you don't
Speaker 1: score and then let up like we did in the
Speaker 1: Washington game. Well, it had been a while, I think
Speaker 1: since the Cowboys had scored on the first drive of
Speaker 1: the game, but they did it. Unfortunately it was a
Speaker 1: field goal. Uh. This last game, and I was just
Speaker 1: trying to see what they've done the previous games. The
Speaker 1: Saints it was a punt, um, a punt, a punt,
Speaker 1: a punt, and a touchdown against the Falcons. That was
Speaker 1: a forty three to three win. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: So it's been a while. Uh. And then the Broncos
Speaker 1: it was downs, actually downs the first two positions they
Speaker 1: gave the ball up on so they went for down,
Speaker 1: fourth down, right, the Vikings miss field goal, The Patriots downs,
Speaker 1: the giants the first time around interception. Oh no, so
Speaker 1: that first drive. Uh, they've had some problems with See.
Speaker 1: I hate watching that punt touchdown, touchdown, punt, so that
Speaker 1: I can't Clint still the second half. Yeah, he's killing me.
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Speaker 1: the way, I was doing a segment this morning with
Speaker 1: the guys on Giants or New York Giants dot com,
Speaker 1: and they were asking me try to describe digs and
Speaker 1: I used Everson Walls as my example, and we were
Speaker 1: talking about the ability to catch the ball, and so
Speaker 1: I said something in one of the guys go, yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes. When you talk about Walls, you mean he
Speaker 1: the guy's crafty because Walls was crafty. And I said, okay,
Speaker 1: guy's last name was Patino. Maybe somebody knew you. He
Speaker 1: must have covered the team for a long period. That
Speaker 1: sounds familiar. That name does sound familiar, Patinos. So would
Speaker 1: you describe yourself as crafty? Yeah? Definitely? That was that
Speaker 1: was it be a dummy out there, especially when you're
Speaker 1: ruining the fourth seven. You can't run fast. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that was it. Okay, Cowboys game against the Cardinals January
Speaker 1: second is now a three twenty five kickoff. That's not
Speaker 1: surprising the Cardinals news regarding them as a wide receiver
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins officially had surgery on a torn MCL. He's
Speaker 1: going to have it in the coming days. Is headed
Speaker 1: to injured reserve. His regular season is over. They are
Speaker 1: hopeful that he might be able to return if they
Speaker 1: go deep in the playoffs. Yeah, I've never I've never
Speaker 1: heard of anybody having surgery on a torn MCL. It
Speaker 1: can't be a scope, right, Well, it probably is, but
Speaker 1: I've maybe that is to give him a chance to
Speaker 1: be back back to the playoffs. Well, normally, if you
Speaker 1: tear your MCL, I mean it's it's it's usually a
Speaker 1: partial tearror or whatever, and it's two to four weeks.
Speaker 1: I don't recall anybody like tearing it all the way
Speaker 1: because you a tear is if you stretch it right,
Speaker 1: it's a terror because some of the ligament phrase right, um,
Speaker 1: And then if you're somebody like me, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a month and ye, yeah, I'm thinking it's medial. Thinking
Speaker 1: you out well medial collateral and you're usually out two
Speaker 1: to four. So maybe you're right. Maybe they have a
Speaker 1: way to do surgery. Okay, so it's what is it
Speaker 1: December sixteenth or so? Um, so they haven't ruled out
Speaker 1: the playoffs, is they're right? And so that takes you
Speaker 1: basically to the first four weeks, would get you to
Speaker 1: the wild card round of the playoffs basically, right, So
Speaker 1: maybe that's they Who knows, but I guess by doing
Speaker 1: a surgery they can getting back quicker that way because
Speaker 1: the MCL usually regenerates itself. Did that twice. That's how
Speaker 1: you know so much about a man that has been bad.
Speaker 1: All right. We touched on the Urban Meyer news in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville the and we mentioned a possibility on a replacement there,
Speaker 1: and of course the first tweets out after urban Meyer
Speaker 1: was let go there was Kellen Moore tweets and so
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore to Jacksonville, Well, here's the thing, if you're
Speaker 1: going to take that first job, you better make sure
Speaker 1: you got a quarterback. There's a quarterback. There's a quarterback there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I remember when who was it Sean Payton did
Speaker 1: the interview with the Raiders, and it would have been
Speaker 1: two thousand in four, two thousand and five. He got
Speaker 1: to the Saints in oh six, I think it was,
Speaker 1: so it must have been oh five. He interviewed and
Speaker 1: he basically turned the job down because no quarterback, and
Speaker 1: I think that was part of it. There were some
Speaker 1: other reasons, you know. And I remember somebody said, oh,
Speaker 1: he just he just committed professional suicide. He turned down
Speaker 1: Al Davis and it's like, okay, but what situation is
Speaker 1: are the Raiders in at this time? Davis has no
Speaker 1: juice in the NFL. It was always about the way
Speaker 1: back then, right and so and so. Anyway, and then
Speaker 1: when he took the job with the Saints, it was
Speaker 1: a it was a two man deal, right because they
Speaker 1: took the chance on Drew Brees when the um what
Speaker 1: was it, It was his shoulder, It was a shoulder
Speaker 1: and and so the Dolphins they they failed him on
Speaker 1: his physical which didn't make Saban happy by the way,
Speaker 1: and he only staged I think one more year and
Speaker 1: then left. But it was about the quarterback and so
Speaker 1: they I remember them signing it sounded like they signed
Speaker 1: Breeze to this big contract. But basically, if you looked
Speaker 1: at the inside of it, the details were one year,
Speaker 1: ten million dollars. So they bet ten million dollars that
Speaker 1: the shoulder would recover and he'd be fine. They won
Speaker 1: the bet and Sean Payton became a genius head coach.
Speaker 1: So don't go anywhere without a quarterback. Look at Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: They have the potential for a good defense. They have
Speaker 1: a couple of veterans on there, especially at the linebacker position,
Speaker 1: that doing the best they can under these situations. But
Speaker 1: you know, you could go there and make some noise
Speaker 1: first year, and you got to put together You got
Speaker 1: to put together a staff because urban Meyer said, my
Speaker 1: assistant coaches they are a bunch of losers. Probably didn't
Speaker 1: help them out much. Goodness, man. So you know what,
Speaker 1: You know what this proves if you're a college head coach,
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of cover. You can do a
Speaker 1: lot wrong if you're winning and it never leaks out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but once you get to the NFL, there's too many
Speaker 1: eyes on you, and anything that off the off your
Speaker 1: competition is much stiffer. That's the main thing that exactly
Speaker 1: caused you to do stupid things. If you're not prepared,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Jacksonville would be the place that
Speaker 1: I would want to go, even with the quarterback. You know,
Speaker 1: if first job, somebody's got to change it, somebody has
Speaker 1: to change it down. Then where's Jimmy. Jimmy was in
Speaker 1: Miami and uh, he flirted, he flirted with with Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: That was one of the things. You remember, the Giants
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville. Anyway, you can keep flirted boat man, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. If you got the place I can put
Speaker 1: my boat and drink some beers, I'm good. The advantage
Speaker 1: on the Jacksonville is you don't have the media that
Speaker 1: I have at other places that can drive you out
Speaker 1: real quick, you know. And they probably don't have a
Speaker 1: very demanding fan base either, since they've been hotels. No.
Speaker 1: I know that I showed up there one year to
Speaker 1: cover at the last minute. I think it was Oklahoma
Speaker 1: State in in what did they it was at the
Speaker 1: Wood Bowl Gator Bowl, and could not find a hotel.
Speaker 1: I could not find a hotel room and and it's
Speaker 1: and the city's laid out kind of weird anyway, right,
Speaker 1: And so I remember this was funny. Uh, the guy
Speaker 1: that was covering for the Morning News. He had a
Speaker 1: room and I had a rental car. So it was like,
Speaker 1: he goes, okay, don't tell Dave Smith memory of the
Speaker 1: sports edator Czar at the Morning News. He goes, but
Speaker 1: we can share my room and then I'll share your
Speaker 1: car and get me to the airport. I said, fine
Speaker 1: with me, right, and so we pulled it off. But yeah,
Speaker 1: showed up there with that. That was an ugly super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The event, oh, the super Bowl was just we had
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl golf tournament. I was invited to it,
Speaker 1: and everyone was supposed to get paid like a thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to play golf. They're supposed to be a great event.
Speaker 1: So you look around, I mean everyone was there. Bates
Speaker 1: and Jack del Riel was still fussing about getting you know,
Speaker 1: Bates getting fired by Jack del Riel down there, u
Speaker 1: LT was there, Banks was there, everybody, everybody was there,
Speaker 1: and I remember on channeling he looked around. He said,
Speaker 1: it's not enough money to pay all these people. Man, man,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about it? Next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: the guy that set up the event, they caught him
Speaker 1: at the airport trying to get away with all the
Speaker 1: money no way. So we're standing there, the cops pull up.
Speaker 1: Hey guys, you played out golf if you want. But
Speaker 1: the guy that just set it up, you know, we
Speaker 1: just arrested this. Yeah, he ain't got It was ugly.
Speaker 1: It was ugly. You know. The other thing that was
Speaker 1: there is what they pulled off, and that's why they'll
Speaker 1: never get another Super Bowl. Is like, there wasn't a
Speaker 1: lot of restaurants downtown, but the ones they did, they
Speaker 1: were charging a seating charge, so per person per table,
Speaker 1: Like if you had five people they were charging that
Speaker 1: would be fifty bucks before you even got on the menu. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and the menus changed, like the menu you looked
Speaker 1: up online, wasn't the menu they were handing you. The
Speaker 1: prices yeah, oh the prices changed, Yeah, the fan was still.
Speaker 1: The prices change. Yeah. Yeah. But so my advice to
Speaker 1: you it would be be patient. Sometimes you're you're you're
Speaker 1: better off, you're better off as an offensive coordinator in
Speaker 1: a certain spot that you know, then then that head
Speaker 1: coaching job elsewhere. Yeah, and he's young, he's he's gonna
Speaker 1: have another oportunities, So there you go. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked Zim sort of did the same thing. Too, because
Speaker 1: he had the interview um with Nebraska and he didn't
Speaker 1: kind of like set up there and so unfortunately and
Speaker 1: some of the most important thing is who you who
Speaker 1: you gonna be working with? Right and then and then yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they didn't. Uh. He he might have been
Speaker 1: the head coach here, but Bill didn't decide to retire.
Speaker 1: His contract was up and he had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: go to Atlanta to be the defensive coordinator for the
Speaker 1: guy that was at Louisville UM. And then he quit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and somebody somebody said something about, you know, college coaches
Speaker 1: going to the NFL and failing, and they go, yeah,
Speaker 1: and Petrino goes to Atlanta and and and failed, and
Speaker 1: it's like, no, he quit. He quit to go to
Speaker 1: Arkansas to be the head coach and then left all
Speaker 1: the coaches there high and dry, and Zim was simmering, right.
Speaker 1: He didn't say anything until he got to Cincinnati as
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator there and they had to play Atlanta
Speaker 1: and somebody asked him about it and old mom, Wow, God,
Speaker 1: he went off, just went off on his coach quitting.
Speaker 1: You can't quit and leave a staff there and families
Speaker 1: there and just walk out on him without even telling us. Oh,
Speaker 1: he went crazy, but he deserved he deserved every bit
Speaker 1: of it he did. He ended up. Yeah, he got
Speaker 1: what he deserved in the end. Yeah's not the only
Speaker 1: coach he's done that. Okay, that does it for mix
Speaker 1: shots for this Thursday. And we've got a wild and
Speaker 1: wacky Friday because tomorrow one thirty five. All right, we'll
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