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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is

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Speaker 1: leading off live the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Joel Rico, joined again by my special guest and co

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Speaker 1: host Ryan Bloomfield from Baseball HQ. We are going to

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Speaker 1: be bringing you through the headlines, talking some three up

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Speaker 1: as we enter into the true stretch run of the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball season. The last two weeks of roto probably

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Speaker 1: your finals and head to head. So Ryan, great to

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Speaker 1: have you back, my friend. Really looking forward to talking

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Speaker 1: baseball once again this year, probably our last time talking

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Speaker 1: baseball this year before we get to see each other

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Speaker 1: in person in a couple months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a brief hiatus before we hang out in Arizona together.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back, my man.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Man, of course, it was so nice last time.

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Speaker 1: We thought we would do it again. You are filling

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Speaker 1: in here for Casey Bubba wholl We be back on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday and on Friday. We got only six shows left

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Speaker 1: in the year. We are really getting down to the

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Speaker 1: end here, but of course fill up with your questions.

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Speaker 1: I see Brandon in the chat here. If anybody else

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Speaker 1: has anything. We'll get to it a little bit later on.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna run through some of the headlines here first,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to start with George Kirby, who had

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Speaker 1: a really phenomenal game yesterday, really fourteen strikeouts it with

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Speaker 1: funny stat here is that he's only had two games

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Speaker 1: where he's in double digit strikeouts this year, and they're

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Speaker 1: both against the Angels, and they're both fourteen strikeout games

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Speaker 1: from George Kirby. Now, overall for the season, it's a

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Speaker 1: four to forty six cra it's a one twenty three whip.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't been amazing, But below the surface, I don't

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Speaker 1: really see anything to be concerned about in the long run, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: You're close to the Mariners there. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: team that's closest to you. Is George Kirby when you

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Speaker 1: watch him? Is there anything concerning about what you've seen

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Speaker 1: the start of the year, is this is kind of

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Speaker 1: in next season?

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Speaker 2: Again, It's bizarre because for most of this season I

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Speaker 2: up ready. It was almost spring training for George Kirby

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Speaker 2: when he had these kind of his first few starts,

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Speaker 2: for much of the season that George Kirby's ratios have

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Speaker 2: been inflated. Like the year to date line, He's pitched better,

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Speaker 2: and then George Kirby goes out and gives up seven

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Speaker 2: separate outings, I'm like, what's going on after that? Like

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Speaker 2: before the fourteenth strikeout start on Sunday, George Kirby had

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Speaker 2: three strikeouts in his previous two starts combined. It's like

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Speaker 2: a complete roller coaster. Just from watching George Kirby, I

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Speaker 2: think he's I think he's fine. Obviously we see the

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Speaker 2: ceiling what he did yesterday. Yes it was the Angels,

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Speaker 2: and yes those two fourteen strikeout games have been against

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Speaker 2: the Angels. But I think George Kirby's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 2: I actually took him as my sp one in the

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Speaker 2: fifth round of the two early meat ball draft for

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Speaker 2: next season, So I'm in on George Kirby too, concerned

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Speaker 2: I just think he's a little bit rusty, got a

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Speaker 1: I think so too, you know, the more I dig

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Speaker 1: things of that nature. They're all about where they have been.

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Speaker 1: But I think if you're getting a fifth round George

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Speaker 1: in it. Those blow up starts have been very ugly,

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Speaker 1: But for the majority of draft season, do you think he'll

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Speaker 2: Right, Probably, yeah, probably, And a lot depends on kind

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Speaker 2: have other good strikeout guys that you want. That's always

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Speaker 2: the knock on Kirby. He needs a ton of volume

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Speaker 2: kind of the the bugaboo. So if you do take

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to your point, this is the best strikeout

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Speaker 1: very exciting. Let's talk about Mickey Moniac though I know

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Speaker 1: it's an odd name to see here when we're talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, we usually bring up the star players

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Speaker 1: almost never see that with five Ribby and Mickey Moniac.

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Speaker 1: It's been the most playing time he's ever gotten in

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Speaker 1: that the problem the whole time with Mickey Moniac is

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want to pile on the Angels too

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Speaker 2: the Angels organization from twenty three to twenty four can

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Speaker 2: do a number on you. If you're Mickey Moniac. I'm

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Speaker 2: still not like totally bought in long term, but it's

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Speaker 2: been an impressive season for Mickey Moniac and anyone's still

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Speaker 2: an all Corps week, folks, And not only is an

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Speaker 2: just continue to lock and load with with Mickey Mooniac.

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Speaker 2: My guess he might be a little bit overdrafted in

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Speaker 2: crotchety and not believing these one year breakouts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. I'm not sure what his contract

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely helps. So maybe we get another twenty

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Speaker 1: So congrats if that is the case. Let's talk Nolan McLain.

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Speaker 1: Another really good start, six innings, five hits, clean ball,

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Speaker 2: Now something like that seems about right. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: Nolan McClain is now over one hundred and fifty if

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Speaker 2: So workload is not an issue for Nolan McLain next year.

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Speaker 2: Obviously he's not going to keep a one to nineteen

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Speaker 2: combine that with the strikeout rate for Nolan McLain, you

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Speaker 2: add on the fact that he is pretty much built up,

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Speaker 2: and we have no idea how to predict picture injuries.

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Speaker 2: But I will take somebody coming off one hundred and

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Speaker 2: I would anybody else. So yeah, big fan of Nola

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Speaker 2: McLain for next year. Top twenty five to thirty five

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Speaker 1: He's one of those guys who's had success pretty much

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Speaker 1: everywhere he's been. The eras are always very low in

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Speaker 1: has been a little bit shaky with a double digit

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Speaker 1: he's always been able to compensate for that. So I

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Speaker 1: ish pitcher who's pitching for a good well should be

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Speaker 1: a good team. The Mets have been baffling over the

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Speaker 1: lot like Yad want Soto and your year has been

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Speaker 2: If they continue to play as they have this past

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Speaker 2: past week? I could absolutely see it. The Giants are

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Speaker 1: You know what, when they give me morphine, send me

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Speaker 2: Hey, we even invited you back this year, so don't

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm one of the originals, was there for the

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Speaker 2: But we'll figure out those those those sorry souls, some

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it going with Cal Rawley and Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 1: They both hit home runs yesterday, fifty four for Raleigh,

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Speaker 1: Point four is the MVP wrapped up because you look

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Speaker 2: I mean, right now, it looks like looks like Aaron.

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Speaker 2: honestly think if the Seattle Mariners, I know I'm biased,

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Speaker 2: this stuff. Again, I know I'm biased. I think cal

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Speaker 1: I'm still mad that Strider didn't win Rookie of the

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Speaker 2: See I'm still mad. Miguel Cabrera got it over Trout

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Speaker 1: He's got eight war this season, he's got an eight

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's unfair of you to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think the peds really had an influence

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Speaker 2: I can only I can only muster one orange flag

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Speaker 1: Yeah, forty two homers in one hundred and thirty games.

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Speaker 1: too upset unless you passed up on, you know, somebody

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Speaker 2: I mean, if anything, your other alternatives, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: fun to say, like Tatis was going like eight to

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Speaker 2: ten overall your other alternatives were like Mookie Betts, Kyle

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Speaker 2: Tucker like you, Yeah, I know. I mean jay Ram

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Speaker 2: it's not like you're kicking yourself for you know, some

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Speaker 1: If you took him over Schoogl, you're probably not thrilled

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do some questions. I think we do

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Speaker 1: have some questions here from the folks in the chat.

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Speaker 1: We like Burger or Torkelsen this week. I don't really

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Speaker 1: have a strong opinion here. Ryan to you, I would.

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Speaker 2: Go Jake Berger. I would go Burger. He's playing every day,

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Speaker 2: hitting well. I would take a flyer on Burger.

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Speaker 1: Weekly lineup, head to head points seed one of Jared Duran,

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Speaker 1: Keishel or Ozzi Alby's Jazz would start at second base

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Speaker 1: or out, depending on the choice. Or do I bench

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Speaker 1: Akunya and start two of those guys.

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Speaker 2: I would not bench Akunya. If you need bags, I'd

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Speaker 2: go Keishel. I don't know. That's a tough that's a

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Speaker 2: that's a very tough call. Boston gets six games. Minnesota

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Speaker 2: gets seven games.

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Speaker 1: So that helps.

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Speaker 2: And who's who's the last one? Durant no, uh, Atlanta

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Speaker 2: gets seven games, probably go Albi's honestly been hitting better

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Speaker 2: of late.

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Speaker 1: You probably probably start Alby's. Yeah, I think so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fine with me. Yeah, I think it's either him

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Speaker 1: or kishel A. Kisha has been really interesting to me recently.

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Speaker 1: It's a points the league. It depends, I guess a

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Speaker 1: little bit on the scoring system, but I don't have

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Speaker 1: any problem going with going with Albe's. They're benching Acunya.

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Speaker 1: You know we talked about this last week or yeah,

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Speaker 1: when we had you on last week, about the prospects

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Speaker 1: of benching Taoscar Hernandez. And Taoskar Hernandez immediately that week

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Speaker 1: hit three home runs and stroke eight, and you know

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Speaker 1: it would have been justified to think, well, maybe I

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Speaker 1: should bench him. But whenever you bench a player of

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Speaker 1: that caliber and Akuny on a much higher level than

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Speaker 1: theay Oscar, that's when you're gonna get three homers, two steals,

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Speaker 1: ten ribies. Just that it's gonna happen. It is gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Head Ted points start one of miss Jacob Mizowski, Kate

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Speaker 1: Smith or riise Eli Glaciaths both with seven games. In

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Speaker 1: a points league, I'd probably just take miss and rack

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Speaker 1: up the points with those strikeouts. With Kate Smith or

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Speaker 1: Riiseelah Glacias, you never really know. They might pitch once

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Speaker 1: or twice in the week. What do you think, Ryan, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'd probably go miss. It's a it's a good matchup.

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Speaker 2: It a lot depends like are you chasing ceiling? Do

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Speaker 2: you want to protect the lead? But like I would

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Speaker 2: go miss, I would go miss.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In a points league, I think you know it's

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty hard for him to score in

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Speaker 1: the negative. Just considering what strikeouts you usually count for

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Speaker 1: in points formats, I think you're you're probably pretty safe

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Speaker 1: with him. I think you're the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Cardinals have an eighty two WRC plus

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Speaker 2: over the last month. That is fourth worst INA as

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Speaker 2: a team over the last month. So it's a great matchup.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals are playing out the string at this point, I'd

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Speaker 2: go miss.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are really bad that you should be targeting them

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Speaker 1: as much as you can. And Mason win went on

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Speaker 1: the il too, so one more bat out of the lineup,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about there. Start Yuri and

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Speaker 1: Sandy this week in Colorado. Sandy, I think he is

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Speaker 1: back in the circle of trust Yuri. Not sure I'm

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Speaker 1: all the way there yet. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sandy, I would not touch Uri in Colorado. Uri

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Speaker 2: is limping to the finish line. Sandy seems to be

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Speaker 2: hitting his stride. So definitely Sandy and bench Uri Priz.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm there as well. Oh, we got

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Speaker 1: a super chat. Let's head to the super chat. Really

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, Benny Black, unless I'm mispronounced in that, which

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Speaker 1: I possibly am. Head to head scoring lineup's locked for

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Speaker 1: the week. Austin Hayes or Trent Grishap. Need two starters

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Speaker 1: between Valdez versus Seattle. I'm scared to start him Messek

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Speaker 1: at Minnesota, Pablo Lopez at Cleveland, whether it's at Colorado

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Speaker 1: or Sprote versus Washington. So need two starters. Pablo Lopez,

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Speaker 1: I'm locking in right away and probably Framber I would

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Speaker 1: probably do it. What do you think there? We'll start

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Speaker 1: with the pitchers, Ryan, What do you think about those pitchers?

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Speaker 2: I definitely Pablo. I would actually probably go for the

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Speaker 2: other one. I would either go Weathers or Messic. Framber's

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Speaker 2: just not pitching well right now in Seattle. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Seattle's won nine in a row that they are on

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Speaker 2: fire right now. It's tough to bench Framber, But would

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Speaker 2: I would bench him, and I would between Messic and Weathers.

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Speaker 2: I know Weathers is at Colorado, but he's look good.

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Speaker 2: I'd probably do Weathers as my second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Weathers look at interesting. If you guys are looking

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Speaker 1: for some starting pitching help the rest of the way,

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Speaker 1: I believe Ron Wethers is just the one start at

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Speaker 1: Colorado this week, but that still could be a very

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Speaker 1: very nice little two starts that you get, not this week,

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Speaker 1: but two starts the rest of season. We're into that

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Speaker 1: kind of mode that could be looking very nice. And

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Speaker 1: then Austin Hayes or Trent Grisham this week. So Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: has seven games at Saint Louis and then versus Chicago,

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Speaker 1: the Cubs at home, and then Trent Grisham at Minnesota

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Speaker 1: and then at Baltimore. Do you have a strong lean

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Speaker 1: on this one?

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Speaker 2: I would go Grisham just because it's six radies going

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Speaker 2: against the Yankees. I know they're all on the road,

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Speaker 2: but the Yankees get seven games, So I'd go Grisham

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Speaker 2: and hope this just crazy season that nobody saw coming continues.

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Speaker 2: Grisham would be the move for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what to make of Grisham heading

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Speaker 1: into next year. I feel like he's probably somebody who's

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Speaker 1: gonna be overdrafted a little bit. He's a free agent,

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Speaker 1: so you know, if he's in Yankee Stadium, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I like him a lot more than if he

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Speaker 1: goes somewhere else. That being said, actually more of his

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Speaker 1: home runs are away from home. That's kind of odd.

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Speaker 1: Actually I would have expected it to be the opposite.

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Speaker 1: But eighteen home runs away, twelve at home. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I'm buying in thirty home runs. It just

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like something he's gonna do again. Maybe I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: Maybe he does do it again. Fourteen percent barrel rate,

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Speaker 1: But this feels like a career year for Trank Grisham.

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Speaker 2: This is always this every year. This is the hardest

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Speaker 2: type of profile for me to kind of dissect and

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Speaker 2: analyze for the following season. Kind of your vet that

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Speaker 2: we think we know who he is, and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, just kind of randomly as a breakout season,

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Speaker 2: and the breakout season is skills supported, right, Like it's

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Speaker 2: been a big dropping strikeout rate for Trent Chrishiam career

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Speaker 2: high barrel rate, like everything below the surface for Trank

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Speaker 2: Grisham supports what he does, what he did in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. However, I can't get over a track record

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Speaker 2: of like five six years of Trent Chrishiam being I

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Speaker 2: mean barely I mean below replacement level in the majors.

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Speaker 2: So I usually tend to stay away from these breakouts. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the skills support it, but skills can fluctuate just like

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Speaker 2: surface stats can. And I think the regression is going

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Speaker 2: to be harder than the market's going to pay.

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Speaker 1: For each of the last three years you said under

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Speaker 1: two hundred. Does this feel I'm gonna get myself in trouble?

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Speaker 1: I already know it, But does this feel a little

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Speaker 1: bit Jerks and Profari from last year where it's like

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Speaker 1: maybe there's something fishy there? I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be that.

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Speaker 2: Guy, but yeah, no, I have no idea. But that's

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Speaker 2: that's actually I probably what I just said about this

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Speaker 2: being the hardest player to project, this hardest type of

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Speaker 2: probably he said the same exact thing on our Unbubbing

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Speaker 2: the Bloom last year about drugs in Profar, like what

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Speaker 2: do you do? And in Profar's case, like yeah, obviously

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Speaker 2: the PD suspension, but like he has come back and

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Speaker 2: played really well, So you know, I'll be wrong on

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Speaker 2: my stance for sure sometimes, but I just think more

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Speaker 2: often than not, these guys are going to fall back

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Speaker 2: harder than what you'll have to pay for.

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Speaker 1: I think so too, And I don't know what it

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Speaker 1: is with Grisham. Maybe it's just a career year, and

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody spikes a career year once in their career, obviously,

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Speaker 1: so maybe this is just it for Trent Grisham. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I can't even predict what the

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Speaker 1: price is going to be. If he finishes up with

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Speaker 1: thirty three home runs or something and he's hitting two

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Speaker 1: forty five, people are gonna pay more than I think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to pay for Trent Grisham heading into

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Speaker 1: next year, and being a free agent who knows like

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Speaker 1: you might head to a great spot, he might head

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Speaker 1: to a terrible spot that could really hurt you in

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Speaker 1: the end. So I appreciate that the super chat there.

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Speaker 1: I really do appreciate that Benny Black Story or Ellie

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Speaker 1: this week man be hard to bench Kelly. It's another

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Speaker 1: one of those acuna things for me where it's kind

644
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Speaker 1: of hard to bench. I know he's had a bad

645
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: second half. I know he has. It'd be tough for

646
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: me to bench him.

647
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: Still tough for me to Benjamin. And what I said

648
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: last week about Taoscar that you just brought up, I

649
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: mean applies certainly with Ellie de la Cruz. So I

650
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: would be inclined to keep Ellie. It's a nice problem

651
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: to have if you don't go with Ellie. Trevor Story

652
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: has been awesome too, so like I can see going

653
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 2: either way. I'd lean Ellie just because what we were

654
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: just saying, you never know when Ellie could spike a

655
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: five stolen base week and hit two homers. I don't

656
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 2: know if Story has that type of ceiling in him

657
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: for a given week, but he's been awesome this year

658
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: for sure he has.

659
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: He's another one where I don't know what the hell

660
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with him next year. I don't know,

661
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: but we'll see. That'll be a longer conversation at some point.

662
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: Start Gore Flerity or Verlander. So Gore has I think

663
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: is the Athletics. Oh no, it's Atlanta, actually wrong a abbreviation.

664
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: Verlander has Arizona and Flarerity has Cleveland. Clear that's the

665
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: I think it's probably Flaerity. I don't really trust for Orlander.

666
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: I know he's been good the last few starts, but

667
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: I don't really trust him.

668
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: Ferlander's been good lately. I don't still again, still don't

669
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: trust him. I don't trust with Ckenzie Gore coming off

670
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 2: the IL, I'm kind of confused why. That's why that

671
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: even happened in the first place. Jake Clarity or Jake Flarerity.

672
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: Jack Flarherty is the I think obvious call. Cleveland's Cleveland's

673
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: down bad right now. Jack Flarherity, Yes he's been frustrating

674
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: on the surface at times this season, but the skills

675
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: are still really good for Jack Flaherty, so that would

676
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: that's pretty easily, honestly the pick for me between those three.

677
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was frustrating year for Flerty, you know, I agree,

678
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: A lot of the numbers blow the surface looked really good.

679
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was going to repeat last season,

680
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: but I thought we'd see a better result this year,

681
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: but I think he's He's somebody they'll be worth paying.

682
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: The discount on next year should be a bit of

683
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: a discount. That's what we've seen this year. Are you

684
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: guys backing on Sandy next year if he continues to

685
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: finish out strong? I am. I was in on him

686
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: this year. I thought that though, you know, considering he

687
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: was ready at the end of twenty twenty four, they

688
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: let him rehab. They didn't bring him back early. He

689
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: had the whole offseason. I thought he was gonna look

690
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: good this year, and the fact that it took maybe

691
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: a few more months and expected you don't like it,

692
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: like I dropped bunch this year, But he looks like

693
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: old Sandy at this point.

694
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: He does look like old Sandy at this point. The

695
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: Whiffs are up in the second half, steck cow out

696
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: of his walk is almost double from first to second half,

697
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: shaking off rust in the first. Obviously, he tanked your

698
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: team in the first half. But Sandy's been much better lately.

699
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: Still only thirty years old. I think Sandy is He

700
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: will be on several of my teams in twenty twenty six.

701
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: The Marlin should trade him the day of the off season.

702
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: The day the off season starts like this kind of

703
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: production that they've gotten from him in the second half.

704
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: I think there'll be teams that are that are pretty

705
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: interested there, And for a fantasy player, I'm kind of

706
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: selfishly hoping that he's in a bit of a better

707
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: spot to get wins. Good thing you're asking this without

708
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: Joey p here because you know he thinks of Jack later.

709
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on Lighter going into next season?

710
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: Has he shown enough development through the season to draft him.

711
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: I think he has depending on the price. You know,

712
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: He's not somebody that I love. There are still some flaws.

713
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: He walks too many batters, the strikeout rate isn't amazing.

714
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: He's okay, but the stuff, you know, it does lead

715
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: me to think that there is another level hereotentially one

716
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: o eight stuff. Plus he has four offerings a great

717
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: above average. I think that there is still some potential here.

718
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a neo baby like Joe does.

719
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: I think that he's I think he's good.

720
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: I think I think Jack Lighter is just okay. But

721
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: it has been better lately, has been better in the

722
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: second half. Little bit of a pitch mix change, so

723
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: like you said, he has those four pitches, but Jack

724
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: Ledder has really leaned into just his four seam fastball

725
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: in the second half, I think, throwing it over fifty

726
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: percent of the time in the second half. That said, like,

727
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: I don't know it like his current line Jack Lighter's

728
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 2: current line three eighty one ERA on the season one

729
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: thirty one whip like that feels about right to me

730
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: as an expectation. I just I have a hard time

731
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: seeing like a major step forward for Jack Lighter. I

732
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: would need to see more whips. I would need to

733
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: see more strikes thrown, and it hasn't been there. He's

734
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: been better lately, but it's hard to just go in

735
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: on somebody for a good month, month and a half

736
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: like Jack Lader's had.

737
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's fair. The

738
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: fly balls combined with the high barrel rate are not great.

739
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: The command is it's not amazing. I'm not sure what

740
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: the pitching plus number would come out to ninety nine

741
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: with location plus at ninety one, so below average, especially

742
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: in terms of locating. I just don't know that the

743
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: story is fully written on him yet he's twenty five.

744
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Feel like there could be some adjustments he makes over

745
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: the years, and you know the question about like next year,

746
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be that expensive. I

747
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people are gonna see what

748
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: we're seeing with the barrels, with the walks, et cetera.

749
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: You know, if I'm ballparking a price, I don't know

750
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: if he's a top two hundred pick. I think if

751
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: he's like a you know, round pick two fifty or

752
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: something like that, if he's your six or seventh sp

753
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: I could be convinced.

754
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. It's so hard to kind of talk

755
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: about these guys right now because we just don't know, yeah, prices,

756
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: But I do agree, I don't. I don't see Jack

757
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: Leder being like a sexy offseason pick, like a Helium guy.

758
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so, especially not if you're in

759
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: a room with Joey p Hope. He's star involved. We'll

760
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: have him back actually next week Joe and Welsh will

761
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: be here for that final show, and I think I'll

762
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: be joining them actually for it. So should be some

763
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: fun there. Jordan Westburg back today. I looked on Twitter.

764
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: I didn't see that he was or wasn't back. I

765
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't see an update either way here. Have

766
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: you heard or seen anything about Jordan Westburg? Because I

767
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: haven't know.

768
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: It's very nebulous and quite honestly, like you probably still

769
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: have other options, hopefully have better options elsewhere. I Jordan Westburg,

770
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: he's a gamer man, but he has played hurt for

771
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: much of this season. It hasn't been great, So I

772
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: have not seen anything. I would I would look at

773
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: your plan b's and probably go elsewhere this week.

774
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's wise. Let's do one more question

775
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: for now. Where does Connor Griffin go in drafts next year?

776
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: This is more of a Welsh type of question, but

777
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that he goes in drafts because I

778
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: don't know that we can trust the Pirates to promote

779
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: him early enough that it'll make a difference in draft

780
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: like you know, the whole Bubba Chandler thing. Again, the

781
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: highest level he's played is Double A. Twenty one games

782
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: at Double A. Are the Pirates going to for go

783
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: Triple A? Probably not. They're probably going to keep in

784
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: the minds on nineteen years old. He's having an amazing season,

785
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: like twenty one homer, sixty five steals, He's heading three

786
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: thirty three. It's been great, But if we're talking standard

787
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: twelve team redraft leagues next year, I don't think he's

788
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: worth it.

789
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: And that's that's kind of the league format I'm thinking here.

790
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: And I also I just don't see the way the

791
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 2: Pirates treated Bubba Chandler this season. I just don't see

792
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 2: a nineteen year old but twenty year old next year

793
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: with one hundred played appearances at Double A. I think

794
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna not see Connor Griffin maybe until the end

795
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: of next year.

796
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: If that, yeah, yeah, September call up type of thing.

797
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: He'll be an expensive fab pickup probably next year around

798
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: like I don't know, August twenty fifth or something like that.

799
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: That's my prediction, early prediction. With the Bruce clinching already,

800
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: will they just rest McGill until the postseason. I haven't

801
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: seen the most recent update on McGill, but I would

802
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: imagine they want to give him a couple reps before

803
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: the postseason again.

804
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: And that's kind of the problem, right, And so it

805
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: goes back to that rest versus RUSS thing, Like I

806
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: think I agree. I think McGill is going to get

807
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: some appearances. The problem for fantasy is it's so hard

808
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: to time win those appearances if they'll be save opportunities.

809
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: If I'm the Brewers, it's I think of this more

810
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 2: of like like a spring training game where you throw them.

811
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: You have set days where you throw Trevor McGill and

812
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter the game situation, Right, That's what I

813
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: would do if I was the Brewers. And if if

814
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: that's the case for fantasy, like, it's just gonna be

815
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: like the stars have to align for that to equal

816
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: saves for Trevor McGill, if that makes sense. So I'm

817
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 2: I'm I'm skeptical of Trevor McGill's save total over these

818
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: last two weeks.

819
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's probably fair. You know, this is

820
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: the time of year when we don't we don't You

821
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: don't have time to be like, well, maybe maybe this

822
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: is gonna like no, you kind of have to take

823
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: the certain things right, even if you're not one hundred

824
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: percent sure about a guy like that outfielder for the Nationals,

825
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: lot Lyle. I think has pronounced Lyle or Lily. I can't.

826
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to pronounce it, to be

827
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: completely honest with you. Yeah, Dylan Lyle Daylan Lyle one

828
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: of those guys where it's like, I don't know that

829
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: I believe in this guy necessarily, but he's been tearing

830
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: the cover off the ball for a couple of weeks,

831
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: so that's the kind of player. It's just one example, right,

832
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: If guys performing today, then that's all that really matters

833
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: at this time of year. Guys, I think that will

834
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: pretty much wrap it up for us today. I think

835
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: we've got to all of your questions unless I have missling,

836
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: but I don't think I have. I think we've gotten

837
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: all of it. So I really appreciate you guys coming

838
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: onto the stream. I know it's a little different here.

839
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: We're on YouTube, it's not Piece of PM Welsh, but

840
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: you guys are still coming on, still watching these shows,

841
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: and that is very much appreciated. We'll be back again

842
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, myself and Bubba, but Ryan, I really appreciate

843
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: you coming on these last couple of shows, and I

844
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: want to give you a chances to let the people

845
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: know where they keep up with your work in the

846
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: off season.

847
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: Happy to do it. Great to still see some chatter

848
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: in the chat. Hopefully that means you all are in

849
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: the hunt for championships. And best of luck. This last

850
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: week or two weeks, depending what your leagues are, you

851
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: can find Me and the Bubba and the Bloom podcast

852
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: with Casey Bubba. We go twice a week all season,

853
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: year round, so we will not be stopping after the

854
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: baseball season end, so check us out if you want

855
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: some off season baseball content and then my written stuffs

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Speaker 1: Make sure you guys are checking out the forecasters. It's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I got a couple of them here. Actually, always great

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Speaker 1: stuff the baseball forecast. Just make sure you guys. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you guys are picking one up. Come out to baseball.

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Speaker 1: Are two first pitch Arizona in November. If you can

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Speaker 1: all of that at the Sheridan Wriggly something like Wrigleyville,

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Speaker 1: on our website at BASEBALLHQ dot com And if you're

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Speaker 1: listening on the podcast feed, click on Ryan's name in

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Speaker 1: can follow him right from there. So really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I'm at Joe Rico ninety nine if you guys want

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Speaker 1: to keep up with my work, but that will do

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Speaker 1: it for us. For Ryan Bluefield, I'm Joe Rico. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time right here on the Fantasy Pros

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Speaker 1: Baseball Podcast.

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