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Speaker 2: MM.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in What a day and sport a night in sports? Huh?

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Speaker 3: Was that good? Or was that good? Man? That's amazing? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you got Jason.

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Speaker 1: Stewart proved wrong but right, and you try and run

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Speaker 1: a play but it involves a bunt and anti bunt.

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Speaker 3: Guy had a had a great night. Not last night.

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Speaker 1: With with the Dodgers hanging out to beat the Phillies,

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Speaker 1: plus the Brewers took a commanding two games done lead

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Speaker 1: on the Cubs.

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Speaker 3: We got to get to that.

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Speaker 1: We had Thursday Night Football where the Jaguars, Yes, I said,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars moved to four and one. Was that Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football? Sorry, I said, Thursdayight Football.

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Speaker 3: My mistake. Just all the days crammed together.

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Speaker 1: Monday Night Football where the Jaguars take down the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: More issues with the Chiefs, But I think we got

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Speaker 1: to start with the story of the day, which is

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Speaker 1: breaking news.

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Speaker 3: You've heard it from.

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Speaker 1: Dan Byer, You've heard it here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Joe Flaco is now a Bengal and in division trade

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Speaker 1: in division trade from a guy who was the starter

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Speaker 1: for the Browns. Then the Browns pulled him. They started

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel and now it's Dylan Gabriel and the backup

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Speaker 1: is Shoudure Sanders.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Wow.

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Speaker 1: The trade has not been confirmed yet, but Adam Shefter

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Speaker 1: did report it. Oh, I'm sorry it should or being

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Speaker 1: two is not confirmed yet. I'm sure they'll bring in

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Speaker 1: an old head, you know, to be part of that

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Speaker 3: But man, is that crazy?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: It's not crazy? It's the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I actually think that should be their slogo, slogan. What

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Speaker 1: do you guys think about that?

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Speaker 3: Right? Like the Raiders is just win baby, huh.

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Speaker 1: For a long time, the Patriots and then the Saints

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Speaker 1: were do your job. What if the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Said, it's that crazy? It's the Browns? Like, yeah, that

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Speaker 3: that tracks, that really tracks.

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Speaker 1: So Joe Flacco to the Bengals because the Bengals are

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Speaker 1: they have to win. You'll only go get Jay Flaco

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Speaker 1: if you feel like anything's better than what we're throwing

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Speaker 1: out there. Cameron Wolf of the NFL Media is reporting

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Speaker 1: that Shadoor is going to be number two. My guess

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Speaker 1: is they go and get out in the street and

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Speaker 1: they find a guy, either practice squad or a number three.

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Speaker 1: But that is like, there's never a dull moment with

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Speaker 1: the Browns, a team that there's no reason we should

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Speaker 1: pay attention to, except for they had four quarterbacks. Now

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Speaker 1: they have two, and the two that had experienced as starters,

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Speaker 1: one who won a Super Bowl, is now playing for

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Speaker 1: their arch rival, and they're left with Dylan Gabriel and

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Speaker 1: Shadoor Sanders, who I can't tell you what he's done

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Speaker 1: at practice, but you know, up until recently he wasn't

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Speaker 1: even their scout team quarterback. Then of course last week

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Speaker 1: he was doing the miming, you know, speaking silently when

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Speaker 1: asked questions after Dylan Gabriel's name starter. Now he's the

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Speaker 1: Backup's that's Lane Kiffen early in his career failing up

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Speaker 1: from Shadoor Sanders. That's remarkable, that's crazy. It's not crazy, Sam,

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Speaker 1: It's not crazy.

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Speaker 5: It's Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: It's the Browns.

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Speaker 6: The Browns, it's the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember an Indivision trade of a starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: where he had taken them to the super Bowl to

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Speaker 1: the then Washington Redskins. And like, wow, that's an interesting

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Speaker 1: trade you trade Indivision, Like, oh, he's washed up.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows what Flacco is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's washed out, but he's obviously not

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Speaker 1: the player he used to be. But the Bengals are

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Speaker 1: Think about if your Joe Flacco, you went from having

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Speaker 3: To throw the football too.

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Speaker 1: That's failing up as well. That's not that's not bad.

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Speaker 3: It's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Does make sense, but also really interesting. Kirk Cousins hasn't

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Speaker 1: been moved now. Part of it is Kirk Cousins makes

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Speaker 1: a lot more money than Flacco is Placo does, but

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins just sitting there as a backup, not doing anything,

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Speaker 1: whereas Joe Flacco is on the move yet again, and

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Speaker 1: this going to the Cincinnati Bengals. All right, we'll circle

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Speaker 1: back to that one in a moment. But oh, you

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry there, buyer, go.

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Speaker 7: Ahead, Yeah, this is This is the interesting thing that

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Speaker 7: I think about this is you have the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 7: who just don't want Jake Browning to throw interceptions Like

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Speaker 7: the numbers are there. Jamar Chase actually had a good game,

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Speaker 7: maybe a fantasy football perspective, but Chase was at least

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Speaker 7: a factor against the Lions in a game where Cincinnati

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Speaker 7: was playing catchup ball game. The problem is Jake Browning

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Speaker 7: just keeps on turning over the football. Did it against

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Speaker 7: So you bring in Joe fla who, by the way,

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Speaker 7: at times is known to turn over the football. And

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Speaker 7: now you have a forty year old quarterback who moves

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Speaker 7: even less than Jake Browning and Joe Burrow behind them.

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Speaker 7: And it's one of those deals where you say you

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Speaker 7: do an indivision trade why in the world would the

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Speaker 7: Browns want to do this for us? Like, why would

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Speaker 7: doesn't make a lot of sense. I do think Cincinnati

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Speaker 7: had to make a move. I didn't think the Kirk

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Speaker 7: that Cousins has on his contract, something that you pointed out.

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Speaker 7: But I just don't know if Joe Flacco is the

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Speaker 7: just need somebody to maybe have a little bit more

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Speaker 7: intriguing because they're sitting there at two and three and

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Speaker 7: the division is still up for grabs. We don't believe

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Speaker 7: why were the Browns willing to do it? And I

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Speaker 7: also don't think that Shador Sanders is the guarantee to

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Speaker 1: If he's the number, if he's the number two. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but here's the thing. To have two rookie quarterbacks is crazy.

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Speaker 1: But as I started by some, it's not crazy.

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Speaker 7: It's the Brons, it's the Browns. But what the Browns

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Speaker 7: are also saying at this point is a week ago,

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Speaker 7: Shadoor wasn't good enough to be the backup quarterback to

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Speaker 7: Dylan Gabriel, right because they said that Joe Flacca was

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Speaker 7: in seven days in London, mind you, they've now made

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Speaker 7: the decision that Shador is ready for that backup role.

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Speaker 7: I don't necessarily think that that's the case. I think

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Speaker 7: we'll find out officially tomorrow on what they're going to do.

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Speaker 7: But some of the talk about Shadors you pointed out,

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Speaker 7: they're going to, you know, have him be a snap

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Speaker 6: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that he's the guaranteed backup at this point.

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Speaker 1: Again, I don't think so either, but it's the Browns,

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Speaker 1: and yes, trading and division generally means you think a

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Speaker 1: guy's washed up. And Flacco is a guy that he

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Speaker 1: didn't hold it as much as Roethlisberger in his prime,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals you got to get rid of it quick.

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Speaker 1: But I'm guessing that their thought is, Hey, we just

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Speaker 1: need somebody who's done it, who's been there, done that

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Speaker 1: can be a veteran, you know, can take a leadership role.

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Speaker 1: We have enough talent to be decent.

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Speaker 3: We just we just had, you know, without burd We're

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Speaker 1: Like what are I guess your options are your Kirk

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Speaker 1: cousins and then who else? Who else is a viable

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Speaker 1: and you stick them in there and can play within

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Speaker 7: I mean, let's let's just say, like you called Arizona

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Speaker 7: and said Jacoby Brissett, But what do you want for

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Speaker 7: Jacoby Brissette.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't he been in Cleveland or since that? He's been

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Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett better than Joe Flacco? Right now?

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but I do know that Joe Flacco

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Speaker 7: threw six interceptions in four games so far this season

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Speaker 7: And that's what you don't want to do if you're

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Speaker 7: less mobile. I yeah, it shocked me when I saw

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Speaker 7: the Bengals for trying to make a move. I just

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Speaker 7: don't know if this was the move that they needed

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So let's

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Speaker 1: turn to baseball here real quick, because it deserves it.

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Speaker 3: It was such a good night.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers up for nothing, give up a couple runs

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Speaker 1: in the eighth right, and then in the ninth it

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Speaker 1: got Harry as well. It gets to four to three,

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Speaker 1: and Dave Roberts did something that So Jay, Dude, take

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Speaker 1: me through the Sasaki Rookie Sazaki and the decision that

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Speaker 1: decision from a guy who's followed every game of the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers this year.

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Speaker 5: Rookie Sasaki is not a closer. There's a different process

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Speaker 5: for getting ready as a reliever than there was a starter.

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Speaker 5: Roki Sasaki takes I guess abnormally long periods of time

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Speaker 5: to get ready as a starter. Dave Roberts obviously didn't

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Speaker 5: want to use him Last night. They had a four

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Speaker 5: But then our bullpen blew up, like they do almost

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Speaker 5: every single night leading leading Last night, the blow up

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Speaker 5: on the postseason roster. He was so bad this year.

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Speaker 5: Three hits, two runs, no outs for Blake Tryning, Thanks

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Speaker 5: Sasaki and bring him in for the final out of

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Speaker 5: Tommy Edmon feels a ground ball with a tyn run

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Speaker 5: saved by Freddie Freeman. Dodgers move on but barely, and

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Speaker 5: The Saki honkers down on the mound, kicks in fires,

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Speaker 4: A second scooped up by him, and he throws first

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Speaker 5: He picks it and saves the game. That's a win

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Speaker 1: Hmmm, yeah, I mean what a great pick by Freddy Freeman.

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Speaker 3: Right. Steve Sacks had that problem as well. Is anybody

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Speaker 3: And they nearly did? Freddy save the day.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a good discussion about Jonathan Gannon apologizing

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Speaker 1: Amaro Demarcado does sound like a baseball player's name, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Ready, Amrio de Marcado steps in. He was two for

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Speaker 1: There are some guys. Isn't that the weirdest thing about

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Speaker 8: Tuesday, this is Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Mondays can be overwhelming.

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Speaker 5: Tuesdays are getting to whatever we didn't.

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Speaker 3: Get to on Monday.

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Speaker 4: This is Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 5: I'll take it from here. I will say this. I

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Speaker 5: Maybe the most consequential one on Sunday was the interception

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Speaker 1: Tucker Fisk five times quickly have fun.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys remember that song Things that Make You Go,

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Speaker 3: Things that.

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Speaker 5: Make you go?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 7: If you don't, Rich actually do a Monday segment called

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Speaker 3: Things that make you Yeah, say I like that?

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Speaker 7: to tie it against Buffalo. Now, to think that lightning

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Speaker 7: would strike twice is a lot to ask. However, when

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Speaker 7: you see how the Chiefs handled or didn't handle last

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Speaker 7: night's game, tells me everything that these aren't the same Chiefs.

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Speaker 7: These aren't the same Chiefs that we knew going to

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Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. They had a holding penalty on a kickoff,

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Speaker 7: so then they were backed up at their own seventeen

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Speaker 7: still sixteen seconds left one time out. A pass to

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Speaker 7: Hollywood Brown went off, his helmet wasn't even looking, wasn't

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Speaker 7: even looking at the time. Another play ended up almost

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Speaker 7: getting picked off. They finally got a short pass play

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Speaker 7: to three seconds where Patrick Mahomes could maybe throw up

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Speaker 7: a Hail Mary that got to the ten yard line

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Speaker 7: to even have a chance. But those sort of situations

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Speaker 7: the Chiefs would execute in clutch situations. And last night

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Speaker 7: to have a football go off Hollywood Brown's helmet. And

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Speaker 7: it's not anything personal about Hollywood Brown, but even Troy

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Speaker 7: Aikman said on the broadcast that if he catches that

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Speaker 7: he at least gets to midfield because of the space

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Speaker 7: and the momentum that he had, and he wasn't.

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Speaker 6: He didn't even see the football. I don't even know

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Speaker 6: if he.

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Speaker 7: Knew that it hit him in the helmet, And that

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Speaker 7: to me was in stark contrast to the successful super

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Speaker 7: Bowl bound Chiefs teams that we had seen in the past. Now,

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Speaker 7: they didn't go to a super Bowl that year because

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Speaker 7: they lost the next week to the Bengals, but still

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Speaker 7: those thirteen seconds against the Bengals are against the Bills

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Speaker 7: we all remember, and last night to see how they

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Speaker 7: operated late told me everything that I needed to know

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Speaker 7: about the Chiefs right now this season.

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Speaker 9: Sam ten twelve am in Hawaii on this Tuesday in quarterback,

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Speaker 9: I continue to be impressed by the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 8: Out goes Ben Johnson taking the head coaching job with Chicago.

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Speaker 8: Out goes Aaron Glenn taking a head coaching job with

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Speaker 8: the Jets. In comes John Morton from Denver, better known

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Speaker 8: for his salt and The top scoring offense in the

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Speaker 8: NFL is the Detroit Lions. If you were to take

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Speaker 8: out right now, they're averaging thirty four point eight points

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Speaker 8: per game. If you were to take out that thirteen

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Speaker 8: point performance in their opening game of the season and

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Speaker 8: the loss against the Packers, they're averaging about forty points

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Speaker 8: a game. I'm impressed. The defense seems to be playing

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Speaker 8: very very well too.

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Speaker 6: Wits.

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Speaker 8: This tells me is that Dan Campbell's fingerprints and culture

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Speaker 8: continue to just control the situation, and they have an

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Speaker 8: incredible roster of talent. You see the trickery still there

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Speaker 8: that Ben Johnson was known for the last game against

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Speaker 8: the Bengals where David Montgomery, who I didn't even know

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Speaker 8: was a former quarterback, throws a touchdown. Brock Right, They

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Speaker 8: are so they will just spread you out. They are

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Speaker 8: just so with all the different things they can do.

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Speaker 8: I'm just impressed by the Lions. They're not skipping a beat.

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Speaker 8: They are uh once again, one of the best offenses

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Speaker 8: in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: How do you guys explain this? And maybe you'll give

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Speaker 5: me kind of the the obvious answer, but I'm hoping

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Speaker 5: maybe we could dig a little deeper. How do you

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Speaker 5: with all the quarterbacks in the entire league, like Joe

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Speaker 5: Burrow and these guys that just can't stay available, how

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Speaker 5: do you explain Jared Goff's ability to not get injured? Like,

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Speaker 5: what's what's the explanation for that?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 5: The scheme very good at like Dan Marino was very

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Speaker 5: good at not getting injured.

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Speaker 3: He's Matt Ryan, dude. First of all, he's got a

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Speaker 3: good offensive line.

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Speaker 6: Yes, great offensive line.

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Speaker 5: It's going to go deeper than that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, But he gets rid of the ball really quickly.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the frustrating things when he was with

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Speaker 1: the Rams that he wouldn't throw the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: But he gets rid of the ball really really quickly.

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Speaker 1: He's checked down, Charlie.

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Speaker 7: I know that Jason wants to move past it, but

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Speaker 7: I just I don't think that it can be overstated

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Speaker 7: about their offensive line, because the Lions can beat you

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Speaker 7: with Jamir Gibbs and David Montgomery. They can run all

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Speaker 7: over you if they want to. They even have Taylor

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Speaker 7: Decker this past weekend against the Bengals, and they still

523
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Speaker 7: were able to dominate. They lost their all pro center

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Speaker 7: Frank Reignow to retirement this past year and they still

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Speaker 7: haven't missed a beat. To Sam's point, I think it's

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Speaker 7: a great job by Brad Holmes, but I think it's

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Speaker 7: how they've been their GM to build this team. But

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Speaker 7: when you have the threat of run and pass, it's

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Speaker 7: a world of difference. Look at Kansas City, they have

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Speaker 7: no running game. Cincinnati right now has no running game.

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Speaker 7: So you have these quarterbacks under pressure to be able

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Speaker 7: to just be able to do both. Yeah, Goff gets

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Speaker 7: rid of the ball quickly. I agree with all that,

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Speaker 7: but I think it starts up front because he wouldn't

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Speaker 7: be able to make it through the season if he

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Speaker 7: didn't have that The Wall of five.

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Speaker 1: Guys question for you, Dan, you know more skill disision

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Speaker 1: players than anybody in the building, right because you're like

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Speaker 1: the fantasy.

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Speaker 3: King with the I Want your Flex podcast?

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Speaker 1: Did you have was Jacory Krossky merit on your radar

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Speaker 1: before the weekend?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Yeah, he's been He's been around. He was drafted

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Speaker 7: in leagues, especially when the Commanders traded Brian Robinson to

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Speaker 7: the forty nine ers. Yeah, yeah, yes he was. He

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Speaker 7: wasn't named that.

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Speaker 3: Do you know his story at all?

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Speaker 6: I just know that they call him Bill.

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Speaker 1: He went to Alabama State in twenty nineteen, like he

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Speaker 1: just finished college last year. He went to Alabama State

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Speaker 1: starting twenty nineteen. He's one of those guys like you're

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Speaker 1: still in college. He was a zero star one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy pound running back. I was reading a article

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Speaker 1: on him in yesterday, and I bring that up because

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Speaker 1: obviously you pay any attention. He had one hundred eleven

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Speaker 1: yards against Yes, the Chargers have a ton of injuries

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Speaker 1: on offense, but staple is their defense and they ran.

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Speaker 3: All over them.

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Speaker 1: But I I gotta be infused in my praise of

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn. Cowboys defense was one of the best in

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Speaker 1: the league when he was there. He leaves, their defense

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Speaker 1: is a disaster. He goes to the Commanders. They go

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs this year. They start out a little slow.

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels gets hurt as well. He comes back. They

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Speaker 1: go be our whole thing is the Chargers. The Chargers

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Speaker 1: the charge, right, but maybe it should be the Commanders

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Speaker 1: and dan Quinn granted, you know, Raiders and Giants aren't

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Speaker 1: great teams. They have the two wins there. They lost

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Speaker 1: to the Packers on the road, the Packers led, you know, kick.

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Speaker 3: Off to finish. Then they lose the Falcons on the

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Speaker 3: road in the close game.

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Speaker 1: But I just you know, as we know that the

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Speaker 1: Eagles are the most talented.

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Speaker 3: Team in that division and maybe the league.

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Speaker 1: We thought, okay, maybe this is a Jayden Daniels year

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Speaker 1: where he's you know, sophomore slump. Now they're at three

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Speaker 1: and two. You know, they played three of the last

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Speaker 1: four at home. They get the Bears at home, two

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Speaker 1: more on the road, and then a very heavy home

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Speaker 1: friendly schedule for the Commanders.

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Speaker 3: I just, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: In this league we talk about a lot of coaches

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, Ashley, we don't talk about Dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: and what an amazing job he does, so I want.

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Speaker 6: To talk about it he does. Is I mean you

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Speaker 6: have a look at your face. No.

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Speaker 7: I think that it's funny because last year at the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl I spoke with Austin Eckler and Brian Robinson

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Speaker 7: who was a Commander at the time and wish he

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Speaker 7: was he was well. Brian Robinson wished he was anywhere

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Speaker 7: else except sitting with me doing an interview. He could

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Speaker 7: not have looked less interested. We even have the photo abage.

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Speaker 1: My Robinson to get shot, so I definitely think he'd

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Speaker 1: much rather be with you than when he was.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 5: I think the look on his face was that I'd

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Speaker 5: rather be getting shot than they sit in with this guy.

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Speaker 8: And he had a giant pile of chicken wings in

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Speaker 8: front of him, like, wouldn't that make you happy?

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Speaker 7: To make anybody well, yeah, but he he wasn't. But

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Speaker 7: the message that was given to me from Austin Eckler

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Speaker 7: was that dan Quinn had these guys buying into the

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Speaker 7: commander's nickname, like to take command, like it was a message,

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Speaker 7: It was a mantra within that building. And so while

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Speaker 7: we as fans may not like the commander's nickname, dan

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Speaker 7: Quinn had the players buying in so much so that

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Speaker 7: they had warned to the nickname that it became who

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Speaker 7: they are. And I think that shows dan Quinn as

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Speaker 7: a leader. And again during that coaching cycle, the last

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Speaker 7: coach hired. Commanders were gonna interview Ben Johnson, he backed out.

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Speaker 7: The Seahawks were looking for a coach At that time,

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Speaker 7: dan Quinn seemed like an obvious fit to return, But

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Speaker 7: me and many other Seahawks fans were like, no, we

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Speaker 7: don't want to go back. We don't want more of

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Speaker 7: the Pete Carroll era, and dan Quinn has got the

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Speaker 7: dan Quinn era. So I think your point about the

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Speaker 7: commanders is very well put. He is his own man.

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Speaker 3: Anybody what else want to get in? No, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: the YouTube channel on the on the zoom page, but

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Speaker 1: you don't have a camera i'd like, I don't. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying anything out of line here, like the ability

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Speaker 1: to communicate with Dan.

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Speaker 3: This is really cool.

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Speaker 5: It's not no no video on this computer. And we've

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Speaker 5: been tasked to monitor your doings.

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Speaker 3: My doings, your big brother. Is that what you are? Okay?

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that I had. I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: John min o'coff will join us upcoming in about five minutes.

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Speaker 1: I think, Dan, you picked the chiefs right, and then did.

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Speaker 3: The three of us Sam, you, me and no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 6: Dog and you were wrong. Oh I was also close

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Speaker 6: to being right.

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Speaker 3: You were close to being right.

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about last there's lots of things

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Speaker 1: interesting about last night's football game.

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Speaker 3: The first is.

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Speaker 1: Something for my childhood that used to be like an

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Speaker 1: iconic football play. People have figured out how to defend

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Speaker 1: it and now it's like you would never tell anybody

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Speaker 1: to do it. And it's jumping over the pile. Now

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Speaker 1: I grant you. He's extending the ball and it slipped

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Speaker 1: out of his hands and got poked. Slipped out of

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Speaker 1: his hands. I'm talking about Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: Was that the first I think was the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: But if you think of our childhood and Dan, I

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Speaker 1: think you can. You can attest to this, Jase, do

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Speaker 1: you can? It's a little Sam's a little younger than us.

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Speaker 1: Walter Payton was probably most famous. Do you think, guys

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Speaker 1: for being the guy who would jump over the pile

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Speaker 1: and get in the end zone? Was he the one

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Speaker 1: the most synonymous with it?

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Speaker 7: I think yeah, the leaping portion of it. Marcus Allen

667
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Speaker 7: was really good at the goal line as well in

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Speaker 7: that sort of role. But I think that the leap

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Speaker 7: sweetness is the lasting.

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Speaker 6: Image, right.

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Speaker 1: And now you would never tell a player to leap, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you leap, you exposed the football. Exposed the football,

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Speaker 1: they'll poke it out or they'll punch it out, a

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Speaker 1: rule which Jase dou thinks is going to be changed

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Speaker 1: in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: You maybe right, but you know what is like a

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Speaker 3: short fire touchdown?

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Speaker 1: And then we have all this technology and I actually

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Speaker 1: think I think they got the call right. I think

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Speaker 1: they got the call right. But I mean, there's a line,

681
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Speaker 1: there's a football. Isn't there a little microchip inside the football?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that what we were told last year that they're

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Speaker 1: going to add the microchip to the football. So shouldn't

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Speaker 1: we know if it crossed the goal line? Or they

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Speaker 1: only have the microchip in the football and not in

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Speaker 1: the goal line.

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Speaker 7: They can only do it via the measurements on a

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Speaker 7: first down, so you can't do it to see if

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Speaker 7: it's crossed the goal line or not. So like when

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Speaker 7: they spot the ball instead of bringing out the chain game,

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Speaker 7: that's how they that's how they figure it out. That's

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Speaker 7: what it's used for.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. Baseball has got abs. They won't use it

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Speaker 1: this year in the playoffs. Football has got microchips in

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Speaker 1: the football. Is yet they're only going to use it

696
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Speaker 1: to spot the ball, not to tell us if it

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Speaker 1: went into the inZone. But I guess you know, we're

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Speaker 1: five games in the season. Are you in on the Jaguars?

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Speaker 1: And how out are you on the Chiefs? And the

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Speaker 1: thing about the Chiefs is that, yeah, they're helped out

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Speaker 1: by the fact that the Chargers, you know, have suddenly

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Speaker 1: looked very human, very beatable, and look, a lot of

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Speaker 1: it was his injuries. But they've lost the games. There's

704
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Speaker 1: no one cares. At the end of the year, Bronco

705
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Speaker 1: is coming on strong. Raiders don't look like challengers at all.

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Speaker 1: But My big question all off season was with the

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Speaker 1: is the league finally caught up to the Chiefs and

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Speaker 1: his age finally caught up to the Chiefs. Here's Pat

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Speaker 1: Mahomes talking about the Chiefs continue to beat themselves.

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Speaker 2: I mean it kind of just talks about our whole

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Speaker 2: entire season. I mean, we I feel like we have

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Speaker 2: we have the guys, and we've executed at certain points

713
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Speaker 2: of game and looked really good, and then we we

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Speaker 2: kind of crush ourselves with penalties and mistakes and interceptions

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Speaker 2: and fumbles or whatever that is. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 2: we've kind of we've kind of done that to ourselves.

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Speaker 4: All year long.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of been one guy here there, and in

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Speaker 2: this league, it's so close that those those change games,

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Speaker 2: and so we got to be better, you know, we

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Speaker 2: we we've lost too many games already.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because this is a team that fans of

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Speaker 1: the league thought, you know, there's all those memes with

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and officials somehow either giving bro hugs or

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Speaker 1: regular hugs.

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Speaker 3: The penalties just killed the Chiefs. Here's Andy Reid, their

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Speaker 3: head coach.

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Speaker 10: Thirteen penalties to their four. Whether I agree with them

729
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Speaker 10: or don't, agree with them.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 10: They called them and so you have that many penalties,

732
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Speaker 10: you give up field position. You can outstat them to death,

733
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Speaker 10: but it doesn't matter. It's a score that matters, and

734
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Speaker 10: we've got to take our business.

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Speaker 1: There's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. John

736
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: Middlecoff's our guests. He's the host of the three Now podcast.

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00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: He joins us here on the Doug Gotlieb Show on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. John was last night more about the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs or the Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: I think it was more about the Jags. I mean,

741
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Speaker 4: I think they're pretty good. You know, I didn't know

742
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Speaker 4: if it was sustainable the way they beat the Niners.

743
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Speaker 4: You know, their defense was like on this just tear

744
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 4: with turnovers. But turns out their defenses as good, I mean,

745
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Speaker 4: and they were missing you could argue their best defensive players,

746
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Speaker 4: their best defensive linemen. So they're a good defensive teams.

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Speaker 4: Not totally sold on Trevor Lawrence, but I mean that

748
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Speaker 4: throw he made on third and long or third whatever,

749
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Speaker 4: what third and eighth, third seven to Brian Thomas for

750
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Speaker 4: forty three yards, made another big drow A couple of

751
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Speaker 4: plays later, and the effort he had on the run,

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Speaker 4: I mean not giving up because if he gets sacked

753
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Speaker 4: or just tackled, you know, the least two or three

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Speaker 4: yard line, they don't have timeouts. And he just kind

755
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Speaker 4: of willed himself into the end zone, which will kind

756
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Speaker 4: of a knock on him. He was like, how much

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Speaker 4: does he love football? Last night? He was pretty awesome

758
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Speaker 4: with his legs. I think achieved a big picture. Are

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Speaker 4: gonna be fine.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: They're not gonna win fifteen games this year, but I

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Speaker 4: think when the dust Pedals look at the AFC, I

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Speaker 4: mean it's a mash unit from an injury standpoint. Some

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Speaker 4: of the top teams hell even in their division. The

765
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Speaker 4: Chargers are in shambells. The Ravens are in shambles. So

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Speaker 4: my guess would be they're probably more like a ten

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Speaker 4: win team. But I think they'll be, you know, a

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Speaker 4: wild card squad that you know, if you're the two seed,

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Speaker 4: they're the seventh seed. It's not exactly good luck to win.

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Speaker 4: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes in round one.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned injuries, is that's what that's what's wrong with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, same thing with the Ravens or something.

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Speaker 4: Else yeah, I mean I think it's even worse. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you would say the Niners it felt like they had

776
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Speaker 4: it the worst, but I think the Ravens now when

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Speaker 4: you factor in Lamar's out in his impact to that team,

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Speaker 4: they got no shots. You know who's got it better

779
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Speaker 4: than us? Well not the Hardball Brothers because they have

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Speaker 4: a high fright team. You know, Lamar makes a lot

781
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Speaker 4: of money, and a bouquet makes a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: Roll clamp Smith makes a lot of money, Cale Hamilton,

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Speaker 4: Marlon Humphrey. You remove all these players, you got no shots.

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Speaker 4: And I mean part of when you start paying people

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Speaker 4: in any you know, especially basketball or football, the backups

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Speaker 4: you're pretty dependent on young players, random practice squad type guys,

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Speaker 4: and man, they have been housed the last I mean

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Speaker 4: really out of play. Started with that Lions game, but

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Speaker 4: the last two weeks embarrassed. I I don't see how

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Speaker 4: it gets any better. Assuming the Rams are, you know,

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Speaker 4: healthy going into that game, it could kind of look

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Speaker 4: the same.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: is our guest. Joe Flacco traded from the Browns to

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. So much to unpack but I do think

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Speaker 1: you know, Buyer brought up a great point, like I

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Speaker 1: get that you needed anybody other than Browning, But what

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Speaker 1: does it say that the Browns are willing to trade

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Speaker 1: him in division to a team they haven't played yet,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna played twice Joe Flacco washed and the Bengals

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Speaker 1: are bringing in a washed up quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the other thing. He can't move, so you

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Speaker 4: have an offensive line which is horrendous. Browning is a

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Speaker 4: decent athlete. He's getting destroyed. Well Flacco. You would say,

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Speaker 4: of all the guys that play in the NFL at quarterbacks,

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Speaker 4: even the first couple, you know, backups included probably the

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Speaker 4: worst foot athlete in the league. Need Jacobe were set,

808
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Speaker 4: you know, Kirk Cousins like, it's he's a sitting duck.

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Speaker 4: So unless you're just like one hitch fire go routes

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Speaker 4: to your two receivers, he's not going to be able

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Speaker 4: to function any better or something like you said. He's

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Speaker 4: not like he's playing well in the first place, but

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Speaker 4: he can't move. So I don't know why through them,

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Speaker 4: especially with the season. I mean, let's face it's kind

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Speaker 4: of over why you wouldn't take a chance on someone's

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Speaker 4: like more athletic young quarterback, maybe especially like on a

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Speaker 4: practice squad pick up. Now you know they would say, well,

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Speaker 4: you know, some of these teams that have backups that

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Speaker 4: are athletic won't trade us guys, which is probably some

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Speaker 4: truth to that. But I think Flacco solves zero issues. Now,

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Speaker 4: I think the question mark is the mind the backup

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Speaker 4: quarterback in in Cleveland or is it Zappi or someone else?

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Speaker 3: What do you think happens?

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I mean I think I would

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Speaker 4: say probably not. Still, I mean I would expect I

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Speaker 4: mean they.

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Speaker 1: Had I don't think you can't elevate him after what

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Speaker 1: he did last week, even if you think, you know

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Speaker 1: he thought it was funny.

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Speaker 4: Kenny Pickets. I mean, we haven't heard from that guy.

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Speaker 3: They traded Kenny Pickett?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Is Kenny Pickets gone?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Canty Pickett to the Raiders? Right? Was he Raiders

835
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Speaker 3: back up? The Raiders?

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Speaker 4: Okay? So yeah, I mean I know Zappi has playing experience.

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Speaker 4: I would not be shocked at all if you if

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Speaker 4: they announced Bailey Zappy and then then the story grows

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Speaker 4: again and do you think he minds again? Or was

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Speaker 4: that a one time deal.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a one time deal. I would imagine

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Speaker 3: we talked about it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, his dad's celebrating the mind. It's like, come on, guys,

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Speaker 4: what are we doing.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I just don't get it either.

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Speaker 1: I just don't get out of Doug Gottlieb Show. Here

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports, Trader John Middlecoff is our guest. Three out,

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Speaker 1: of course is the podcast and the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots beat the Bills in Buffalo, I said, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was the biggest win for the Pats since

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Speaker 1: the pandemic. Right it's like five years. How are they

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Speaker 1: able to do that to a Bills team that had

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Speaker 1: looked so unbeatable in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 4: I think part of Mike Rabel's value, and he did

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Speaker 4: this in Tennessee. Now by the you know, Tennessee's like

857
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Speaker 4: last good team had a bunch of talent, but early

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Speaker 4: on he kind of gets guys over achieve and he

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Speaker 4: uglies up the game and you could feel it right

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Speaker 4: away some of these turnovers. The game was just ugly.

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Speaker 4: Six to three and a half, like that is a Rabel special.

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Speaker 4: He's like, I'm not getting in a shootout with these

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Speaker 4: guys will lose. I'm not gonna be these guys thirty

864
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Speaker 4: five to thirty two. We got to keep it low scoring,

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Speaker 4: make it kind of uncomfortable for Josh. And their quarterback

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Speaker 4: played really well, I mean great, probably the best game

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Speaker 4: of his life, you know, since maybe like sophomore year

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Speaker 4: in college was awesome. So to me, this is why

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Speaker 4: you hired Mike Brabel to have a chance in these

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Speaker 4: type spots when you aren't as good as these teams. Now,

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Speaker 4: part of it is there's a human nature element to this,

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Speaker 4: you know, the enormous favorites thinking like what we've been

873
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Speaker 4: rolling the past, we're going to continue and now I

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Speaker 4: think it's the best thing to happen to Sean McDermott one.

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Speaker 4: You know, you go thirteen and four, you're gonna lose

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Speaker 4: some games, not all of them. Are just going to

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Speaker 4: be to the Chiefs for the Ravens, right, and hell,

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Speaker 4: they beat those two teams this year, or I guess

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Speaker 4: they haven't played the Chiefs, but they've beaten the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: the last couple of years. So to me, it's like

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Speaker 4: you can coach them up now. Also, you get to

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Speaker 4: take that game when you play him again in New England,

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Speaker 4: really really seriously, but I think you know they might

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Speaker 4: have something in Drake May. Now you get the inspired

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Speaker 4: play from Stefan Diggs, Like I don't quite understand, Like

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Speaker 4: how Digs got screwed? Wasn't he the guy who wanted out?

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Speaker 4: But hey, you know, you take motivation however you take it,

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Speaker 4: and let's fake. And he looked like the guy I

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Speaker 4: saw at Minnesota years ago playing, So he was unreal.

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Speaker 1: Steut Gottlig show here on Fox Sports Radio, what's wrong

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles?

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm a big believer that to be a

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Speaker 4: play caller in football, like the difference of the good

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Speaker 4: play callers and the bad play callers. Like if you

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Speaker 4: put Kevin Petola, who's been in the NFL for two

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Speaker 4: decades now, and Matt Lafleur or McVay or Kyle like

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Speaker 4: on a whiteboard, I don't think you or me could

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Speaker 4: tell the difference. He'd be like these guys are geniuses

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Speaker 4: at football. But there and you know, as like a player,

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Speaker 4: there's a level of like, God, this guy has all

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Speaker 4: the physical tools. He should be a great small forward

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Speaker 4: or he should be a great tight end, And then

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Speaker 4: you just start playing and he's like, this guy doesn't

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Speaker 4: have a good feel for the sports. And I think

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Speaker 4: sometimes it's play callers. It's like it's almost like instincts

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Speaker 4: as a player, but it as a play caller, and

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Speaker 4: so they get in the game and they just don't

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Speaker 4: have a field. There's no evan flowing. Some guys do, right.

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Speaker 4: You watch Kyle Shanahan's coaching with Mac Jones. He just like,

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Speaker 4: this guy just knows what he's doing. And you watch

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Speaker 4: the Eagles guy, which, in fairness, they had Shane Sichin

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Speaker 4: that was a mate that was a home run higher

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Speaker 4: Kellen Moore win the Super Bowl, it gets the head

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Speaker 4: coaching job. So they've hit on some of these guys.

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Speaker 4: But they also went had Brian Johnson. It was ugly,

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Speaker 4: and now this is it's not quite as ugly, but

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Speaker 4: it's a little clunky. And I think it's just, you know,

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Speaker 4: anytime a guy gets an opportunity to be a play caller,

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Speaker 4: it's a it's an unknown that no one can quantify

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Speaker 4: until you start calling plays, and through five games you

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Speaker 4: would say, I don't know if this guy's got a

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Speaker 4: long term future calling calling place because it doesn't listen.

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Speaker 4: Jalin's by no means a perfect player, but holy moly,

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Speaker 4: they got a lot of good players. You see some

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Speaker 4: of these guys fail, You're like, well, look who's coaching.

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Speaker 4: And they got a good offensive line, they got Sagwa Barkley,

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Speaker 4: they got multiple tight ends, they got receivers for days.

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Speaker 4: And it's like and that market's tough too, so they

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Speaker 4: they start kind of the pressure starts falling on you.

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Speaker 4: How we starts looking at you a little weird. The

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Speaker 4: owner starts looking at you wear from the players because

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Speaker 4: they know what it looks like. So he just he's

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Speaker 4: got to have a game where he just calls a

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Speaker 4: bunch of touchdown plays and we look up and they

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Speaker 4: got thirty five points. Maybe that's get right. Thursday night

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Speaker 4: game against the Giants. The problem is Thursday night game,

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Speaker 4: especially as the season goes, they usually can be a

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Speaker 4: little clunky. So it probably won't be this Thursday, but

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Speaker 4: everyone's going to be paying attention, so it's going to

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Speaker 4: be a huge story if they even if they win

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Speaker 4: like seventeen to seven.

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Speaker 1: That's John Middlecoff, NFL analyst host the Three and Out podcast,

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Speaker 1: and you can hear that in the Volume podcast network.

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Speaker 3: John great stuff. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Doug se