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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, January thirteenth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football.

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Speaker 2: Podcast, where we're just surviving in advancing. It's me and

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Speaker 2: you rand MG Marcus Grant.

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Speaker 1: Joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones, and Happy victory Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Is that a thing?

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Speaker 3: It is now for all of us, hyree seen one,

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Speaker 3: all three of our teams one items Team one. Everyone

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Speaker 3: with Quab.

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Speaker 1: Sorry Quab, Yeah ah, you knows cleared it, Quob. I

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Speaker 1: love you, man, and we appreciate you coming on board

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Speaker 1: this year and everything you've done for us. But get

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Speaker 1: the Steelers out of my life. I've had enough of

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six, twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Let's just get them out of our lives.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and plenty more because we'll recap

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Speaker 1: the wild card round and four of these six games

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Speaker 1: really truly were wild, and then one was boring and

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Speaker 1: one just sucked. But we'll talk about them all as

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Speaker 1: we go through the show today. Can we can we

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Speaker 1: tease what's happening on Thursday. I won't be here on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in Parts Unknown.

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Speaker 3: Sure, he confirmed that he's down. I've reached out to

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Speaker 3: the Bobs and waiting to hear back. But the guest

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Speaker 3: is down, so I think we can confirm, right.

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Speaker 1: So on Thursday show it will be a return visit

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Speaker 1: from one Scott Porter. He of Friday Night Lights fame

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Speaker 1: Jason Street.

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Speaker 2: So he'll be back.

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Speaker 1: He came on before the season. We had a great

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Speaker 1: conversation with him. Then he's coming back because this weekend

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Speaker 1: we've got Bills at Broncos in the divisional round. Obviously

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Speaker 1: we know Michael lef Florio a big Bills fan. Scott

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Speaker 1: Porter a big Broncos fan. So, like I said, I

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Speaker 1: will be in Parts Unknown. I'll be in a cone

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Speaker 1: of silence while you guys are recording, but I have

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Speaker 1: to dip in and listen. Do you hear if there's

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Speaker 1: any sort of trash talk between the two of you guys,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I just saw that the bombs hit me back up,

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Speaker 3: so I was like, let me respond to this.

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Speaker 1: Action.

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Speaker 3: I am very excited. I hit him up and I

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Speaker 3: was like, look, it's Broncos Bill's week. Because he had

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Speaker 3: been wanting to come back like he was like some

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Speaker 3: of my fantasy calls hit. So I figured, with it

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Speaker 3: being the only week that we're going to get this matchup, right, like,

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Speaker 3: let him bring him on. He could, he could talk

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Speaker 3: a little bit, I could talk a little bit, and

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Speaker 3: then we'll both sweat it out Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a lot of fun to be sure

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Speaker 1: to check out Thursday show to hear Scott Porter and

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Speaker 1: his thoughts on Bill's Broncos and uh, you know, let

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Speaker 1: him take a couple of victory laps on the things

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Speaker 1: he got right. You know, if you listen to the

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Speaker 1: preseason show with Scott, you know he is deep in

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Speaker 1: these fantasy streets. He is a fantasy nerd like nobody else.

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Speaker 1: So to be fun to get him back on the show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, signs get too so. News headlines a couple

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Speaker 1: of things that jumped out after the weekend, maybe the

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Speaker 1: biggest one being George Kittle suffering a torn achilles as

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers surprised the Eagles in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: And got a win there.

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Speaker 1: So obviously we know Kittle out obviously for the rest

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Speaker 1: of this postseason and probably a good chunk of next season.

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Speaker 2: As well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's officially a timeline on his

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Speaker 1: return yet. Have they even announced a successful surgery? Has

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Speaker 1: that happened?

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Speaker 3: Since that's always we know it's going to be successful.

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Speaker 1: Successful, right, still waiting for a team to be like, Nope,

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Speaker 1: they screwed it up.

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Speaker 2: It again, He's never gonna dance again.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we make jokes, but then Joe Mixon happens.

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Speaker 2: That's true. You know that's fair.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that wasn't successful.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, George Kittle obviously out for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the postseason. I think for our purposes it's worth spinning

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Speaker 1: it toward next season. We were in our text chat

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Speaker 1: sort of talking about our top five tight ends for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. This was before the Kittle injury, where

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Speaker 1: he's obviously locked in as a top five tight end

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Speaker 2: Now that he's not, I want to hear in Florida.

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Speaker 1: You can start laqual and you can follow, but I

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Speaker 1: want to hear now, as of this moment, who are

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Speaker 1: your top five tight ends for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Trammit Bride is the unquestioned number one tight end. I

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Speaker 3: think brock Bauers is the clear cut number two after that,

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Speaker 3: good luck, right, because it was supposed to be Kittle

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Speaker 3: at three, but we might not see him next year

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Speaker 3: because Achilles, especially at January Achilles. Who knows, right. Tucker

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Speaker 3: Kraft is another one that I would strongly consider, but

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Speaker 3: we don't know what his health is. I think tentatively

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Speaker 3: I would put him at three, but that's one that

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Speaker 3: could change a whole lot based off of summer reports

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Speaker 3: all that. And then I think it's Warren and Colson

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Speaker 3: Lovelin rounding it out. And the other names I considered

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Speaker 3: in there were like Pitts, Kincaid and Harold Fan and Junior.

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Speaker 3: So to me, there's a top two that are clear

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Speaker 3: but no one that brings uh the security that you

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Speaker 2: All right, OLQ, who's your top five? I like that.

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Speaker 4: I mean we can obviously agree on the first two.

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Speaker 4: It's Trademan, Bride, brock Bauers. That's like I think we

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Speaker 4: all just understand they're probably going in the first three

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Speaker 4: rounds like that is acceptable. But like you guys said,

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Speaker 4: it gets really weird after that.

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Speaker 3: Like three, we could put Pitts. I mean, is he

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Speaker 3: staying in Atlanta?

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Speaker 5: Does he get the bag?

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Speaker 4: I think he's happy there, but I don't even know

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Speaker 4: if that's a for sure thing that he finishes. As

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Speaker 4: how he finished his last season.

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Speaker 3: I think he leaves lose where go where. I think.

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Speaker 2: New englandsas city Falcons.

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Speaker 3: Don't have a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: It's a new regime.

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Speaker 4: I feel like if he leaves, I don't think we

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Speaker 4: have to reevaluate depending on landing spot. But at three,

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Speaker 4: like you mentioned Tucker Krab, I actually have him written

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Speaker 4: here at three, But then four and five, like four,

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Speaker 4: I want to sneak into Coleston Lovelin. I want to

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Speaker 4: with Kittle coming out, it brings more room. And even

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Speaker 4: at that fifth spot, I haven't made the blonde bet yet,

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Speaker 4: but it could be another rookie tight end because these

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Speaker 4: actually like really just kind of like difficult. After that

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Speaker 1: So what I've got right now, obviously like you guys, McBride.

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Speaker 2: Bauers are one and two.

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Speaker 1: Like Florio said, it gets murky after that, you can

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Speaker 1: probably throw a bunch of names in a hat and

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Speaker 2: I still believe in Tyler Warren. You kind of hit

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Speaker 1: You hit that rookie wall a little bit last year. Also,

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, he and Philip Rivers just couldn't seem

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Speaker 1: to get on the same page. But we know Phil's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be back next year. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's Riley Leonard. I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: re signed Daniel Jones. Look, they may resign Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: right Folks in Indianapolis are saying they think they think

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Speaker 1: he's the future. So Daniel Jones could be back. If

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Speaker 1: If Daniel Jones is back, Tyler Warren is solid again.

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Speaker 1: So I got him at three, I got Loveland at four,

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Speaker 1: I got Pits at five. But as you can hear

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Speaker 1: in my voice, I'm not I'm not locked in on any.

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Speaker 6: Of those guys at that spot. It feels weird. Even

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Speaker 6: after the season he just had like the same where

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Speaker 6: you're feeling. Marcus is the same way I feel putting

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Speaker 6: him in there, like I want to put him at three,

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Speaker 6: but I don't know if he stays or goes or

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Speaker 6: even has that type of season again, Like it just

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Speaker 2: I think he's gone. I don't think. I don't think

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Speaker 2: he stays in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: He also benefited from London being out and he was

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Speaker 3: much better with Kirk Cousins than Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like the thing I don't like about I've

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Speaker 1: heard people say New England, but Hunter Henry is still

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Speaker 1: under contract for I think at least another.

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Speaker 2: Year, maybe two.

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Speaker 4: Austin Hooper is the free agent. I already got David

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Speaker 4: the Jokugo in there. That's why I don't think that

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Speaker 4: Kyle Pits goes to New England.

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Speaker 1: How old is Austin Hooper? Because I feel like he

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Speaker 1: played at Stanford with John Elway.

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Speaker 3: Hoopen's been Hoop and.

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Speaker 1: Since excusing I feel like he played with John Elway

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Speaker 2: Like how long has he been around Ry?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Thirty one?

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Speaker 1: Sure, all right, I'll take your word for it. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Austin Hooper, but I do worry

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Speaker 1: like I feel like Kyle Pitts going to New England

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Speaker 1: with Hunter Henry still there would be sort of like

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Speaker 1: when John new Smith and Hunter Henry signed in New

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Speaker 2: I was like, I like both of those guys individually,

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Speaker 2: I hated both of them together, Like I don't want that.

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Speaker 1: I do really feel like if Travis Kelsey leaves, if

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Speaker 1: if Patrick Mahomes is intent on being back by week

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Speaker 1: list right and he comes back in like week five

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Kyle Pitts in Kansas City with

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and let's be let's be real here, the

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Speaker 1: possibility that for she Rice could be suspended at the

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Speaker 1: start of the year. Why can't Kyle Pitts eat potentially

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Speaker 1: in the Chiefs offense?

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Speaker 4: Mt I got another I got another landing spot, Okay,

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Speaker 4: the commanders, the commanders. He can be a nice middle

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Speaker 4: of the field target for a Jaden Dames coming back

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Speaker 4: from injury. I don't think I think putting him in

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Speaker 4: New England would be the worst thing possible for him

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Speaker 4: because honestly, like if we think about it, like like

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Speaker 4: I said, daming n Joku to New England just feels

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Speaker 4: the second piece to that tight end room. But Kyle

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Speaker 4: Pitts he can flourish. We've seen him have this amazing

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Speaker 4: season that he's had with opportunities with Drake London now

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Speaker 4: and like we said, the Michael Penning, Kirk Cousinsteh volume production,

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Speaker 4: like that's basically what it was. Like, I think he

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Speaker 4: can stand alone as a tight end one and not

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Speaker 4: have somebody over his shoulder taking away the red zone

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Speaker 4: opportunities like a hunter Henry and et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I mean obviously we know zach Ertz, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean he had unfortunately that injury late in the season.

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Speaker 1: That is probably the last we're going to see of

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Speaker 1: him in the NFL. You know, it's a tough way

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Speaker 4: QB one that you actually drafted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, so I was looking at it

442
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Speaker 1: and florio he's been I think the first year he

443
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: was QB twenty three, last year he was QB twenty.

444
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,919
Speaker 1: This year is QB nineteen, So like he's getting incrementally better.

445
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Speaker 1: But for me at least, it also feels like he's

446
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Speaker 1: kind of maybe not officially at his ceiling, but he

447
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Speaker 1: can reach up and touch the ceiling.

448
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Speaker 2: That's not a short joke. He can he can reach

449
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 2: out touch.

450
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Speaker 3: The ceiling from where he is just as middle zero.

451
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Speaker 3: Even thought about making him a QB one, Like I

452
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 3: don't even think he's like a high end QB two.

453
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Speaker 3: I think he's a low end kind of. There's some

454
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Speaker 3: weeks where you're like, oh, okay, but like I'm looking

455
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Speaker 3: at his game logs right now, against the Rams and

456
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Speaker 3: the final week against Tampa are the only game, and

457
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Speaker 3: then he had a four hundred and forty eight yard

458
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Speaker 3: game against Atlanta. Those are the only three games all

459
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Speaker 3: ye he topped two hundred and ten passing yards like that,

460
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Speaker 3: and he's not running like we thought he would. And

461
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Speaker 3: then you go through his game logs too, like the

462
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Speaker 3: floor is zero touchdowns most weeks it's one to two,

463
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Speaker 3: and then there's an occasional three here.

464
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Speaker 4: So like in some of those games he won where

465
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Speaker 4: he did not score a touchdownane, what are you doing?

466
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Speaker 3: I root for Bryce Young, but I'm not interested in

467
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Speaker 3: him for fast And in fact, later in the year

468
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Speaker 3: in my home league, I had to use Bryce Young

469
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Speaker 3: as a Patrick Mahomes replacement in a two quarterback league

470
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Speaker 3: and it wasn't fun. Like even against the Bucks where

471
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Speaker 3: I was like, this is a great matchup. He gave

472
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Speaker 3: me like seventeen and then against Seattle he had like seven.

473
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Speaker 3: And that's the issue with Bryce is I don't think

474
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Speaker 3: this ceiling is high enough for the very very like

475
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Speaker 3: He's kind of like Caleb, just with a lower ceiling. Right,

476
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Speaker 3: Like we say, Caleb's floor is week losing, but there's

477
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Speaker 3: upside there. Bryce Young doesn't have that upside like he

478
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: every once in a while he'll have a big game,

479
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Speaker 3: but not in the sense that you can rely on it.

480
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Speaker 1: Yea well, And I think for the Panthers, just as

481
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Speaker 1: a real football organization, like I understand why they picked

482
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Speaker 1: up the fifth year option, right, Like you've seen him develop,

483
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: You've seen him constantly improve, and honestly, kudos to Bryce

484
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: Young for kind of overcoming that rough year right where

485
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Speaker 1: he was benched. They brought him back like all the

486
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Speaker 1: stuff that he's gone through in his career, and he

487
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: has done as well as you could expect him to

488
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Speaker 1: with everything around him. But if you're the Panthers, you're

489
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Speaker 1: kind of in a spot where, like Bryce, Sam's not

490
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Speaker 1: the guy that's going to get you to where you

491
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: need to go or where you want to go, right,

492
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Speaker 1: he can maybe get you to the playoffs like he

493
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Speaker 1: did this year.

494
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Speaker 2: Maybe they win double digit games next year.

495
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Speaker 1: Like that's not a ridiculous statement that they didn't win

496
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Speaker 1: ten games, No, but that's kind of it. But also

497
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Speaker 1: you're not ready and you're not in a position to

498
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Speaker 1: go in free agency and get a guy or go

499
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Speaker 1: in the draft and get a guy. So you're kind

500
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Speaker 1: of just stuck with this quarterback who's good enough but

501
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Speaker 1: not necessarily great.

502
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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

503
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Speaker 3: He might be the best of his class. I put

504
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 3: this out on Twitter yesterday. Who's the better quarterback right now?

505
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Speaker 3: Bryce Younger, c J. Stroud and Young one seven? The

506
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: timing also right? Also like but but c J. Stroud

507
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 3: has been this all year long, Like there's no highs

508
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: with him. He's just kind of steadily mid, whereas Bryce

509
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: young The floor might be lower, but the ceiling is

510
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Speaker 3: higher in my opinion.

511
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, also c J.

512
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Speaker 1: Stroud was sweating Crisco last night, Like why couldn't he

513
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: hold onto the football?

514
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 2: Like what was going on with that?

515
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 3: He didn't have an all world defense. We're I think

516
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: we're looking at c J. Stroud in a different light.

517
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Speaker 3: Give Bryce that defense.

518
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Speaker 4: I might think we see a better offense going on,

519
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 4: but I still blame the offensive coordinator Nick Kayley though.

520
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Speaker 4: I mean again, he is from the Sean mcvagh tree,

521
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 4: but he's from the other side. He's from the other

522
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 4: side of that family reunion that we don't you know,

523
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Speaker 4: go over and.

524
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Speaker 1: Say hi to what part of the Sean mcvagh tree

525
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Speaker 1: do you acknowledge then? Because you weren't so sure about

526
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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor.

527
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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor is the one uncle like he's like Nick.

528
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: I mean, Koc is like one of the goats. Rahee

529
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Speaker 4: Morris Raheem Morris is good in my book, Big Jersey.

530
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Speaker 4: I mean that, like, I think Koc would probably be

531
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Speaker 4: the best.

532
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Speaker 1: Is good outside of being from Jersey if he were

533
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Speaker 1: from Missouri, would you be okay with him?

534
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 2: Not?

535
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Speaker 5: This past season?

536
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 3: All right, he's a true hero. He's a true hero.

537
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: All right?

538
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Speaker 2: Here we go, Uh, Florida. How early are you draft?

539
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Speaker 2: Comfortable drafting Ted Rod McMillan next year?

540
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Speaker 3: Probably around where he was this past year, right, Like,

541
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Speaker 3: I know he is one of those players though that

542
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Speaker 3: if you look at like the end of season stats,

543
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Speaker 3: like where he finished, it's better than it was if

544
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Speaker 3: you had him on your roster, Like he was the

545
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Speaker 3: wide receiver sixteen in total points this year, he was

546
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Speaker 3: not the sixteenth best wide receiver in fantasy. And if

547
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Speaker 3: you had him, you understand this. Like look at his

548
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: game right, Like for much of the year it was

549
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Speaker 3: all floor and then there's one big thirty three point

550
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: game in there that is the only game all year.

551
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, he had one other game where he topped

552
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 3: one hundred yards, so like, and it's not all his faults.

553
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: I think. I think there's a lot of deficiencies in

554
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Speaker 3: this offense. I think Bryce Young's inconsistencies can hold him

555
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 3: back and stuff, but none of that is going to change.

556
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Speaker 3: Maybe it changes next year, but we're not going to

557
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: see it change by the time we have to draft him.

558
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 3: And for that reason, I think where he was going

559
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: around last year, like in the low end wide receiver two,

560
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: high end wide receiver three range, is probably where I

561
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 3: would be cool to taking him, admitting that there's more

562
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: upside there, but it's no guarantee that we see that.

563
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: There's no guarantee that we see it.

564
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Speaker 1: Part of it, like early in the season he just

565
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: wasn't scoring touchdowns and in the back half of the year,

566
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Speaker 1: he started scoring a few more touchdowns that definitely helped him.

567
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Speaker 1: But and Lakwan, you mentioned Jalen Cocher. The Jalen Cocher

568
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: development and ascension could eat into McMillan's production because I'm

569
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Speaker 1: not convinced that Bryce Young can support I don't think

570
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: he can support two wide receiver twos. In fantasy. I

571
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: think he can gives you a wide receiver two and

572
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: maybe wide receiver three.

573
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: Maybe. So if Jalen Cocher actually starts to.

574
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Speaker 1: Produce a little bit more, or if Xavier Lagett kind

575
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: of figures it out and starts to produce a little

576
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: bit more, that is necessarily going to eat into McMillan's production.

577
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Speaker 2: So I think I'm with you.

578
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Speaker 1: I think I think I want his ADP to stay

579
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Speaker 1: kind of right where it was, you know, And I think,

580
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, one thousand yards, seven touchdowns, five to seven touchdowns.

581
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Speaker 1: I feel like that is a reasonable expectation for him

582
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Speaker 1: again next year.

583
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: It's not bad, but it's wide receiver too.

584
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Speaker 4: I feel like Jalen Cocher though, like he adds to

585
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: the roller coaster, like how you're saying, I don't think

586
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 4: Bryce Young can support both of them in one game.

587
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: Like I really feel like, you know, when you go

588
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: back to the Rams game, the regular season game, not

589
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: the playoff one, where Jalen Coker just was lighting up

590
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 4: our secondary and then you get that one blown play

591
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 4: by Ammanu Fords tech scores, so it's like one of

592
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: those things where that was kind of like a blown coverage,

593
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 4: a lucky play, But that entire game, Bryce was only

594
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 4: able to get the ball to Coker. So I think

595
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: when you look at Jalen Coker next season, like he

596
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: shouldn't be rising up in ADPs. He should be one

597
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: of those wide receiver fours or fives that you grab

598
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: to take a flyer on, like he's a flex guy.

599
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: But Tetroman Millan, I think he's a solid wide receiver two.

600
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: But you're very lucky or happy that you get him

601
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: as a wide receiver three to where his ADP was

602
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: in the summer where we had these question marks around Bryce.

603
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 4: We should be attacking the draft the same way with

604
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 4: Tetro McMillan that he's going to be strapped and married

605
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,239
Speaker 4: to Bryce Young's up and down roller coasters. It's not

606
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: really him.

607
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: It's not the.

608
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: Talent, it's not anything like that. It's just an inconsistent

609
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: play on a week to week basis from the quarterback,

610
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 4: which a lot of people overlook and like they look

611
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: at this as like oh a year two jump, etc.

612
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: Etc.

613
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 4: All the analytical folks will find one metric that would like, oh,

614
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: well a rookie hasn't done this since eighteen ninety five,

615
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: Like okayol, great, but let's look at the situation and

616
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: look at the quarterback that they've been inconsistent all season long.

617
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that's probably right.

618
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: So, speaking of inconsistencies, which running back in Carolina?

619
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Speaker 2: Do either of you for next year?

620
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: Well, Rico's a free agent, and Rico is I don't

621
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: know if you guys have seen this. He is on

622
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 3: Twitter and like he basically he's not coming back, Like, yeah,

623
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: he is pissed, but I would be too. To look,

624
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 3: it's like, if we're gonna call a spade a spade,

625
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: that that two two hundred yard games was the biggest

626
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: anomaly of the twenty twenty five NFL season. Then Rico

627
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: became Rico again after that, Like he's a solid running back,

628
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: but that's what he is, right, Like, we have a

629
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: large enough sample size now I think of that. I

630
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: think Tuba could still be something depending on what they

631
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: do with the RB two there and stuff, But it

632
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: feels like it's gonna be Tuba's backfield once again.

633
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: Hmmm. Yeah, I mean, Cuba's fine.

634
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 5: I feel like it's nasty either way though, because like.

635
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I'm not excited for Cuba.

636
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 4: Are we drapped in a Panther's backfield next year?

637
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I not early before, not early.

638
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a depth piece, you know, like Cuba,

639
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: whoever else.

640
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: May be back there. Like you know, if I'm looking

641
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: for a third running back, be.

642
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: Twenty like two to thirty range, I think that's decent.

643
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: That's where.

644
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine, That's what I mean. He finished.

645
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: So he finished this as RB thirty eight, but obviously

646
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: he missed. He miss time too, so that that had

647
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: something to do with it.

648
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: For sure. I'm moving on Bears Packers.

649
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Bears pull it out a thirty one twenty seven.

650
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: Win over Green Bay.

651
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: We get Ben Johnson basically trying to stoke the fires

652
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: of the rivalry straight and being like I don't like

653
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: that team, uh not really wanted to shake Matt Lafleur's hand.

654
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: That's fun.

655
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur did it first.

656
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 5: He did it first.

657
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: I look, I'm fear for it, man, like I'm here

658
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: for rival reason, like especially that one is nasty.

659
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: So that's kind of fun.

660
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: But on the Green Bay side of things, Florio is

661
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Love a QB one in fantasy.

662
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: I really like Jordan Love. I think he is one

663
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: of the better pure throwers of the football in the

664
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: NFL for fantasy, though, I think it's very borderline like

665
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: he'll be either in that low end QB one high

666
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: end QB two tier. I haven't sat down and done

667
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 3: my rankings yet. I don't usually try to do them

668
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: until after we get a lot of these moves because

669
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: they're going to change so much the issue. And I've

670
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,239
Speaker 3: said it a lot this year with Jordan Love on

671
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: a per throw basis one of the best in the league.

672
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: But they throw the ball at like the third fewest

673
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: rate in the NFL, and I think they should be

674
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: throwing it more because he's the numbers show right, like

675
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: when they when they let him throw, he's uber efficient

676
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: and your offense is better. But for some reason they haven't.

677
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: So maybe if there's a play calling change or a

678
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: coaching change, I'll give him a boost, But otherwise I

679
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: think he kind of stays in that low ENQB one

680
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: high in.

681
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 5: QB two tier.

682
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: What hurts him is he doesn't run, right, That's good.

683
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Other thing, he didn't have thirty rushing yards in a

684
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: game all year long. He has in his career five

685
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. Four of them came in one season. That's it, Like,

686
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: you can't you can't expect that part of him. For him,

687
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: in order to be a QB one as a guy

688
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: who doesn't run, you have to be incredibly efficient and

689
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: throw a lot of touchdowns. Right Matthew Stafford throwing forty

690
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: six touchdowns right, Like, we know.

691
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: He's not gonna run.

692
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: But if I'm looking at it right now, Matthew Stafford

693
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: has wait, is that real?

694
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: He has one rushing yard this season until the last

695
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: two weeks.

696
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: But you know, you throw forty six touchdowns versus eight interceptions,

697
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: you could be a QB one.

698
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't see.

699
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Love having that kind of season in him, partially because,

700
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, that's not how the Packers operate offensively.

701
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: You know who I think he'll be, Like what golf

702
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: was with Ben Johnson, Like that is how he can

703
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: be a QB one, Like, like you said, you have

704
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 3: to be highly efficient as a passer and stuff, but

705
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: like that is the path to it. Finishing is like

706
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: a mid QB one.

707
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lukwan. The Packer wide receiver group pretty.

708
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Much everybody's under contract except for Romeo Dobs. He is

709
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: going to be a free agent. Do we need him

710
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: out of Green Bay for his sake and for the sake.

711
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: Of all the other Packers that we might want to draft.

712
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean for his sake.

713
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: I think he could ball when given opportunity, but he's

714
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 4: just part of that rotation of that wide receiver room.

715
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: I think the Packers they probably won't pay him as

716
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: a wide receiver two or one, Like I feel like

717
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: they're just going to attack the draft or get somebody

718
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 4: else to fill his place. I feel like Romeo Dods

719
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: whight end up in New England somewhere as boring as

720
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 4: that sounds, or somewhere.

721
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: Lars sending everybody to New England.

722
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, send them to the Bills. Like I

723
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: don't know.

724
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: I'm feeling like, you know, like this is just constantly

725
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: going to be what the identity of this Packers offense

726
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: is going to be in terms of what the wide

727
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: receiver room is going to look like. Like, I don't

728
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: see them dropping this big bag for him to stay

729
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: when we just saw Matthew Golden kind of develop and

730
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: shine in a playoff game where he's on Twitter right now,

731
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: he's searching his name one hundred percent because he is responding.

732
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 4: He's telling folks to keep that same energy, which I respected,

733
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: because I think he can ball when give an opportunity.

734
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: But there's just too many mouse to feed in that offense.

735
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: But I think Romeo Dobbs would probably be better off exiting

736
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: left and kind of finding his own opportunity where he

737
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: could be treated as, you know, a wide receiver one

738
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: in his life.

739
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

740
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: I think he's ever going to be a wide receiver one,

741
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: but I think he can go somewhere where he's not

742
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: maybe battling for targets so much. You know, I think

743
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: I think he's a wide receiver two at best wherever

744
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: he goes, and I think he's you know, I think

745
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: his ceiling in fantasy is maybe low end wide receiver two.

746
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: But that begs the question. Floria Matthew Golden comes out

747
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: of nowhere and has a huge playoff game? Is he

748
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: the new Gabe Davis?

749
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: Not even close. His huge playoff game was four for

750
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: eighty four and one gave davis is huge playoff game

751
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 3: was two hundred yards and four touchdowns. The only dude

752
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: in I think it's him and Jerry Rice are the

753
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: only two to have done that in a playoff game.

754
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: But even more than that, right, Like, like Gabe Davis

755
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: gets a bad rap, but Gabe Davis was a fourth

756
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: round pick, Like, why are we putting that kind of

757
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: expect It was us that was wrong. Right with Matthew Golden,

758
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: he was a first round pick. And I don't have

759
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: the list offhand, but I've seen people post it before

760
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 3: the first round wide receivers who have done with Matthew

761
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: Golden has done, which is three hundred and sixty one

762
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: yards in fourteen games and no touchdowns. It's bad. Like

763
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 3: Kevin White, I believe had a better rookie season. So no,

764
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: this was a nice game. I didn't love Matthew Golden

765
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: as a prospect. In fact, I thought Isaiah Bond was

766
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: the better of the Texans receivers. Texas receivers. We will

767
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: see how that plays out, but I am very low

768
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: on matt In fact, the only Packers receiver I'm really

769
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: excited about long term is Christian Watson because I do

770
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: believe he is a wide receiver one at the NFL level.

771
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: He just has to stay on the field and do

772
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 3: so well.

773
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: If it makes Matthew Golden feel any better. He did

774
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: have a better rookie year than Kevin White. So actually

775
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: that's a crazy pool. Actually what's the lowest bar? And honestly,

776
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: Kevin White in six seasons only slightly beat Matthew Golden's

777
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: rookie year.

778
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 3: I ran into him in a bar in Arizona day.

779
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: Kevin White. Yeah, that is regular random. You recognize him?

780
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I didn't recognize him, but one of my

781
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: friends was is a big Bears fan, and it was

782
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: like right after they drafted him, and he was like, Yo,

783
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: that's Kevin White and he was just facetiming someone and

784
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: he walked over to me and I was like, yo,

785
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: good luck this year man, and he just hugged me.

786
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: He didn't say a word, and he just walked away.

787
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: That's out wild that's wild side quest.

788
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: But for the record, so Matthew Golden his rookie season

789
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: twenty nine catches for three hundred and sixty one yards,

790
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: no touchdowns. Kevin White's career twenty eight catches, three hundred

791
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: and ninety seven.

792
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: Yards and no touchdowns.

793
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: Out ouch ouch.

794
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was bad.

795
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Bill's get by the Jaguars twenty seven to twenty four

796
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: of the final score in that one.

797
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: Lakwan is Trevor Lawrence a QB one next year. Yes, yes, yes,

798
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: that's so sad about it.

799
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's sad.

800
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 4: It's just one of those things now, like I get

801
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: bombarded with DMS and on my mentions about oh, you've

802
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: been to clean up the Trevor mid lawns.

803
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 5: Okay, he is Trevor Lawrence.

804
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: Man, he's been boring, Okay, Like I just love the

805
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: pieces around him right now.

806
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: You gotta deal with it when you talk as loud, Yeah,

807
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: you are loud.

808
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: Victim of the deal.

809
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: I'm not playing victim. I've cleaned that up since November. Man,

810
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: Like you guys know, he's been retired off the middimeter.

811
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: It's been broken, his face has been ripped off the board.

812
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: He is no longer.

813
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: Gona have to deal with it though, with as loud

814
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: as you were for as long as it.

815
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: Was like I was loud, but I was not wrong.

816
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: He did end up playing better and I took the

817
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 4: l and accountability. We are moving on to twenty twenty six.

818
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 4: He is AQB one. He remains in that top seven.

819
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: You gonna hear about it in twenty twenty six.

820
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 4: No, listen, he if he shows flashes like I think

821
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: he did at times in this Bills game. He showed

822
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: flashes of like bro lock in, what the heck are

823
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 4: you doing? And then he will jump back into understanding

824
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen's system and having such great pieces around him.

825
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: Parker Washington, as long as he's a piece, that's what's

826
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: going to keep Trevor Lawrence into that QB one realm.

827
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: He's running more, he's getting more pieces around him, developing better,

828
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: and Breton Strange. Like I said, Parker Washington, Jacoby Myers

829
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 4: is there extended. All the pieces are there for him.

830
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: I didn't mention Brian Thomas Junior. I think he should

831
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 4: stay because I think he's part of that decoy, part

832
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 4: of that offense that can had defenders still respect his

833
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 4: game because he can show up win given opportunity or

834
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 4: if he catches the ball. But I think Trevor Lawrence

835
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: to me, we could just lock it in that he's

836
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: going to be top seven at least until further notice.

837
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: All right.

838
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: So then having said that, right and Lakwan mentioning all

839
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: the pass catchers.

840
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: There, well, you're ranking him as a top seven quarterback.

841
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 5: Yes, top seven moving forward.

842
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm there. Wow, why not?

843
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: We can have that conversation later, but you know, that

844
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: conversation that's worth having a conversation about. But though because

845
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: Lakwan mentioned all the pass catchers, right, Jacobe Myers, Britain Strange,

846
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: Parker Washington.

847
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: Maybe BTJ. The guy that he didn't mention because he

848
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: was hurt most of the year's Travis Hunter.

849
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: Right.

850
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: We came into these years this year with so many

851
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: expectations for him. I saw something interesting from John Shipley

852
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: on Blue Sky, who does a great job of covering

853
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: the Jaguars as one of their beat riders, and he

854
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: talked about how defensively they probably played a little bit

855
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: over their heads this season. They were great with turnover

856
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: loock early in the year when they were really shutting

857
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: people down. That kind of went away as the season

858
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: went on and they struggled against elite quarterbacks, Does this

859
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: mean florio that they're still going to try the Travis

860
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: Hunter wide receiver experiment or do they just give up

861
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: on that and say, hey man, you're pretty much a

862
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: full time corner with maybe occasional packages on offense.

863
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: That's my fear.

864
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: I have no idea which way they're going to go,

865
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: but that's the fear because a lot of well, it

866
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: also depends on Brian Thomas Junior's future there because it

867
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: does seem pretty likely that he might be playing somewhere

868
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: else next year. And if that's the case, then maybe

869
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: we could see Travis Hunter in that role because remember,

870
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: like as the year went on, BTJ just kind of

871
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: became a field stretcher for them, was running a lot

872
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: of go routes and stuff like that. So maybe we

873
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: see him sprinkled in in that way. But yeah, it's

874
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: gonna depend a lot on what that wide receiver room

875
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 3: looks like. But I don't think we're going to get

876
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: a full time both sides of the ball Travis Hunter

877
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: in year two. I think if we get that, it's

878
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: probably year three after they kind of let him ease

879
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: back into this thing after hurting his knee. But yeah,

880
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: as much as I'm gonna be rooting for him and

881
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 3: I love the talent and everything, I probably unless he's

882
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: got like we've talked about it the other day, like,

883
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: unless he's everyone is feeling this way and is kind

884
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: of fading him and he's going into double digit rounds,

885
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: then I'll throw darts all day. But if you got

886
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 3: to draft him with a meaningful pick, I probably won't

887
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: be doing so.

888
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you're gonna have to spend a

889
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: high pick on him. I think he's gonna be a

890
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: guy who you know, is in the kind of later rounds,

891
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, people kind of just testing the waters, seeing.

892
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: What they can get.

893
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what you're gonna get from

894
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter next year. But I'm curious, like, after all

895
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: this hype, all this talk about him being a two

896
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: way guy, it might just be straight up need that

897
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: forces him to play a defense more than offense next

898
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: year for Jacksonville. Speaking of next year, Lakwan is baseall

899
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: Suton going to force a committee with Travis ETN next year.

900
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: I don't know we will have to leave.

901
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 4: I mean Travis ATN is a free agent, but he

902
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 4: he bawled out this year and like, I think he

903
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 4: can handle that backfield as a workhorse. I mean, we've

904
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: seen Braschall touton like kind of show flashes here and there.

905
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 4: There's really only two notable games this season, including the

906
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 4: playoff game where.

907
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 5: He looked good.

908
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 4: I mean, like the stats won't sit there and blow

909
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 4: you off the you know, off the paper. But at

910
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 4: the same time, I.

911
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: Was more afraid of him than Etn in that game

912
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: as a Bills fan.

913
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 4: He was explosive, like he looked good man, and like,

914
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 4: I feel like you can kind of water that town

915
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: flower and kind of see where it goes. But I'm

916
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 4: not going to be this summer like banging the drum

917
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: and like have the fantasy streets get all excited about

918
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 4: two and especially if dravs Etn is back and paid.

919
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: I do think even if Etn is back, I don't.

920
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: I struggled to think it's just gonna be the et

921
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: In show because we saw this before, right, like they

922
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: were trying to make Tank Bigsby a thing before they

923
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: traded him to Philadelphia.

924
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: And he's I think yes too.

925
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: But I think the point is I don't think the

926
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: Jaguars have ever been sold on making Travis et In

927
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: a workhorse.

928
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think that is the case.

929
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I agree with that.

930
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: I agree.

931
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look as a Bills fan, shout out to

932
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: Liam cohen Man, because they were averaging eight point four

933
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: yards per carry and six point seven yards per pass attempt,

934
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: and they threw the ball twice as much as they

935
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: gave it to those.

936
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: Two running backs. Yeah. Now, I mean, look, please figure

937
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: something out with that offense.

938
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: For sure, I was very happy they were throwing.

939
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure you are. Way through wild card weig it

940
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: was like a break.

941
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: Come back into the other three games and talk about

942
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: those teams. That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy

943
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. Back here as we run through wild Card weekend.

944
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: The Niners going to Philadelphia.

945
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: They beat the Eagles twenty three to nineteen, and a

946
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: lot of Philadelphia's offensive problems led to their downfall in

947
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: this one, including Jalen Hurts, who just could not get

948
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: anything going in the passing game. Definitely didn't help that

949
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: he had some drops. But I gotta ask you, lakwan Is,

950
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts still a top five fantasy quarterback.

951
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: This is going to be one of those questions that

952
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: we're going to be trying to answer all the way

953
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: up until August when these drafts happen. And I think

954
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 4: there's got a lot of questions about AJ Brown. Understand

955
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: that if they move him, there's a lot of dead

956
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: cap that they got to eat, there's a lot of

957
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 4: money that's attached to him next season, But the way

958
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: how this season ended, I don't think like there's any

959
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 4: possible way they go into next season with this drama.

960
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: And I think when you remove a piece from that

961
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: offense like a AJ Brown, then we had to really

962
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 4: start having the real conversation, like, Okay, is he gonna

963
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 4: be top five for fantasy in terms of having that

964
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 4: rushing upside, having the Toushbush on the utility belt, having

965
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: the pass catchers around him that can elevate him to

966
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: have this top five conversation. I'm gonna say no, and

967
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stick the line at top seven where we

968
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 4: were talking about Trevor Lawrence, like where I think outside

969
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 4: the top five more likely than not. I feel like

970
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 4: the top five is a little bit shuffled of especially

971
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 4: what we've seen this season. I'm not even including Matthew

972
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: Stafford in this top five next season that I'm talking about.

973
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: But there's some names like a Joe Burrow who was hurt,

974
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: Jaden Dames that was hurt. Like, there's some names that

975
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 4: we could put in that top five now. So with

976
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts how this season ended, I don't know if

977
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 4: I can say that he's a top five block in

978
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 4: twenty six.

979
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

980
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the switch push wasn't as effective this year

981
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: as it had been in the past, so the point

982
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: that they just they stopped using it a lot. I mean,

983
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: one of their short yardst touchdowns against San Francisco was

984
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: basically a jet sweep to Dallas Goddard, Like they kind

985
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: of lined up in that formation and they hand it

986
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: off to Goddard. We saw them do a shovel pass

987
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: to Goddard during the season, So, I mean, I had

988
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: always feared that if the tush push went away, it

989
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: was gonna take a big bite out of Hertz's production.

990
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: He had eight rushing touchdowns. It's not a bad number

991
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: at all, but you know, he finishes outside the top

992
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks. I think as a passer, I think he's

993
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: kind of limited right now.

994
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: So like It's just it's hard for me to make

995
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 2: a strong case. So right now, as.

996
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of sketching this out as you were

997
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: talking the quine I got, you know, and we can

998
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: argue on the order. But Josh Allen, Lamar, Jackson Drake

999
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: made Jayden Daniels Joe Burrow as my top five, you

1000
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: know me, I don't even if you can make a

1001
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: case for a healthy Mahomes, I'm not sure, like coming off.

1002
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: The acl like, I don't think that.

1003
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: He's Jackson Dart is an interesting one.

1004
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: I'm about to say Dart Dart was right up right

1005
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 4: on the tip of my tongue.

1006
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: Caleb, Caleb's still hanging around there, Perty Dak Dak.

1007
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's a lot of name out there, and.

1008
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 4: This is like a top ten list, like because there's

1009
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 4: a lot more names in the hat now that are running,

1010
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: guys that are mobile now and getting over that four hundred,

1011
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 4: you know, rushing yards. Like That's why I said, like

1012
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 4: top seven, we can have a conversation for hers.

1013
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean, justin Herbert was second among quarterbacks and rushing

1014
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: yards insane.

1015
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: He was running for his life.

1016
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: Though we don't ever want to see that again, I

1017
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 4: don't ever want to see that.

1018
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: That was not part of the plan. It's just something

1019
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 2: that happened, is what that was. But Florida, if AJ.

1020
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: Brown is gone, and I know Eagles fans want him out.

1021
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: If you guys saw the video of the ten year

1022
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: old kid who was like, so like, bro, you're ten,

1023
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: your ten, your team has won a super Bowl in

1024
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: your lifetime and been to another.

1025
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: Did you see what he said?

1026
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: Though?

1027
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: He said it's like they're they're cooking burgers at McDonald's.

1028
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: One half they're cooking the.

1029
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: Other hand half. I'm like, I was kind of a

1030
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 2: good for.

1031
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: A ten year old to say that. I was like,

1032
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 3: this kid is.

1033
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: Going places because you probably heard it from somebody in

1034
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 1: the stands like behind.

1035
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: Him or something to right.

1036
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, But also, bro, you're ten, then your team has

1037
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: won one super Bowl and been to another one in

1038
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: your lifetime. Like, calm down your feeling no as stresses.

1039
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: It's like all the kindergarteners in like New England who

1040
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: are happy to finally see a playoff wain like, settle down.

1041
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: You guys are fine. But all that being said for.

1042
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: If AJ Brown is gone, how far does DEVINTA.

1043
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: Smith move up in rankings.

1044
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: A whole lot, like he would be top fifteen, I

1045
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: would say, a wide receiver with the chances of going

1046
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 3: even higher. Like we all know Devanta Smith can play,

1047
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: and it's evident when he gets opportunity or when like

1048
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: if AJ Brown misses time, stuff like that. But the

1049
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: thing is, there's three options there and one of them

1050
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: every week is going to disappoint. And the way that

1051
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 3: they use DeVonta Smith when AJ Brown is there is

1052
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: more as the downfield deep target and there's just more

1053
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 3: volatility there because those are the hardest passes to complete

1054
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: in the NFL. So I think he would get a

1055
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: big boost. But the Eagles to me, are one of

1056
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: the more interesting teams this offseason because are they going

1057
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 3: to change their play caller? Because that is going to

1058
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: determine Like think about the last four years of the Eagles.

1059
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: We've seen their offense be the best in the NFL

1060
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 3: or one of the most frustrating, and it seemingly happens

1061
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: year to year because their OC is always changing. So

1062
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: that to me, will will determine a lot. Are they

1063
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 3: gonna be able to rebuild this old line because we

1064
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 3: knew that was a little bit of a weakness coming in.

1065
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 3: So this offseason I think is going to determine a

1066
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: lot for the Eagles.

1067
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: As of this recording, Kevin Patulo still has a job

1068
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. We'll see, We'll see if that continues to

1069
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: be the case a week from now, a month from now, whatever,

1070
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: But for now, he's there. This time, about a year ago,

1071
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit later, I was on this show

1072
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: proclaiming that I would not touch Saquon Barkley in the

1073
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: first round, that after the workload he had the year before,

1074
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, all the yardage and everything,

1075
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: that it just seemed too risky. I take no pleasure

1076
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: in telling you that I was right. I don't even

1077
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: taking a little pleasure in telling you I was right.

1078
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, he finishes, he was the top

1079
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: fifteen running back. I get a good season, eleven hundred

1080
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: rushing yards, you know, nine total touchdowns, not a bad

1081
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: season at all, but definitely not the kind of season

1082
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: that was worth.

1083
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: Making him the number one overall pick.

1084
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: Now that he's a year removed from that, Laquon, can

1085
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: he be a first round value again?

1086
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I could see him going at the

1087
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: one eleven to one to twelve. Still like this will

1088
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: be a year removed from that, you know, over worked season,

1089
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 4: so I think there could be a bounce back. I

1090
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: mean him going at the one eleven, one twelve or

1091
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: even the early second round. I think that's reasonable. That's

1092
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 4: where we were having Derek Henry go and then look

1093
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 4: at the season he had. So it's like one of

1094
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: those things where you know, the running back position, as

1095
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 4: they get older, they take more bang.

1096
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 5: But this is a freak athlete. We're talking about.

1097
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 4: Same thing with Christian McCaffrey this past year that I

1098
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 4: was wrong about. I do feel like that he's in

1099
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: that tier of the freak athletes that I think now

1100
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 4: that he's going to be removed from this over workload season,

1101
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: that there could be potential, you know, first round value

1102
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: strapped to him this year.

1103
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing, I'm not dre I have

1104
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: to SEMC next year.

1105
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: I'm not drafted. This is not in the first round.

1106
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: At least now he's going top five, like he's he's

1107
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: at four. He's gonna after this week he's gonna be

1108
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: at four to fifty touches and they might still have

1109
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: another game or two.

1110
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not touching CMC in the first round at

1111
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: all next year. So if he's going top five, I'm

1112
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: not gonna have him. Patriots beating the Chargers sixteen to

1113
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: three in a game that was Dolla's dishwater. But the

1114
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: big news that came out as we were recording earlier

1115
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: in this episode, Greg Roman has been relieved of his

1116
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: duties as the offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Chargers.

1117
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: So my original question.

1118
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: To this Florida was gonna be do you expect an

1119
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: overhaul in the LA offense?

1120
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: I think we.

1121
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: Can expect that now because no Greg Romans. So now

1122
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: what I mean it can't just be as simple as

1123
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: you got to get your offensive line healthy. That's a

1124
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: big part of it, But that can't be the only thing, right.

1125
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 3: No, that it is the biggest thing though, in my opinion,

1126
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 3: because it wasn't just like they were missing starters, like

1127
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: they were missing all pro level starters and replacing them

1128
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: with dudes who literally were ranked outside of the top

1129
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: thirty two, which means there are teams with backups who

1130
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: are better than the Chargers. Three of the Chargers five

1131
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 3: starting offensive linemen, and that clearly just ruined everything for

1132
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 3: them this year. But it's gonna depend on who they hire, right.

1133
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 3: The one thing I can tell you for certain though,

1134
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: is we're going to get more passing in LA. Even

1135
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: with Greg Roman kind of dialing it up. The Chargers

1136
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: have been a very run heavy team. I think there's

1137
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 3: bounce back years for a lot of Chargers next year,

1138
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: specifically the one that you're gonna ask about next I

1139
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: think Omari and hamp the next two actually that you're

1140
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: gonna ask about, Like, I think those guys are the

1141
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 3: biggest bounce backs. But there's a lot of talent in

1142
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: LA and in this offense. They just need that O

1143
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: line to stay healthy and they need someone who can

1144
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: I think, be a little bit more creative with the

1145
00:51:59,040 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: passing game.

1146
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: All right, So you know, Florio kind of hinted at it,

1147
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask you, Lakwan, because I know that

1148
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: t who of you are going to differ on this.

1149
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure maybe how early, Lakwan are you drafting lad

1150
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: McConkie next year?

1151
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 4: So I feel like with Ladd, like we can look

1152
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: at him as a top fifteen wide receiver, maybe even

1153
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 4: top twelve now that great Roman is gone, because no

1154
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: wide receiver under Greg Roman in this entire time as

1155
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: a coordinator or a coach, or whatever the case may be.

1156
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: They have average more than fifteen Fantasy points for a game,

1157
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 4: and only Sammy Watkins twenty fifteen was able to do that,

1158
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 4: but no wide receiver finished inside the top fifteen. Now,

1159
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 4: with Great Roman gone, this could be one of the

1160
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 4: situations where I might feel good about taking Ladd in

1161
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 4: that late second or early third round. I might feel

1162
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: good with him as my wide receiver too. Now with

1163
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: some overhaul, this offensive new identity that they bring in, Like,

1164
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 4: as long as we still have that old line in tach,

1165
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 4: I think Ladd obviously is going to have a great

1166
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: year removed from this last season, being that there's going

1167
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: to be more opportunities open now, I mean, is Keenan

1168
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 4: Allen right off of the sunset?

1169
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 5: Who knows?

1170
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 4: I mean Quinn Johnson going to be Is Quentin Johnson

1171
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 4: going to keep this momentum and be more consistent and stay.

1172
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 5: Healthy as well?

1173
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 4: Like I think the obvious arrows that are pointing up

1174
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 4: and immediately think about.

1175
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: Laddin, Yeah, I mean, I think I do think Keenan

1176
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: Allen probably hangs them up at this point because by

1177
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: the end of the season, he was just I mean,

1178
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: he's kind of just out there.

1179
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: He wasn't really producing a lot. Because Trey Harris is.

1180
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Starting to eat into more of his opportunities as the

1181
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: season went along, I think they want to kind of

1182
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: open some things up, give Harris more opportunity. I think,

1183
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, I would like to see more consistency out

1184
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: of Quentin Johnston. He had some really high highs, especially

1185
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: early in the season, kind of vanished, came back.

1186
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: He looked unlocked. I don't know what happened.

1187
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: We also haven't you know, we also mentioned Ronde Gadston

1188
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: and what he meant to the offense this year, So

1189
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: they are.

1190
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: Definitely targets to go around. But I think I just

1191
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: think the potential.

1192
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: Departure and again we don't know anything, but the potential

1193
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: departure of Keenan Allen means Ladd McConkie goes back to

1194
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: being the number one option in the passing game. I

1195
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: just think that's what it is.

1196
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: And I just think if you give Herbert time and

1197
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: he's not constantly fighting the clock in his head and

1198
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 3: knowing like like people were saying he might pull on

1199
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: Andrew Luck that that line has been so bad Yeah,

1200
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: the issue that the good thing is it's not like

1201
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: they need to rebuild it on the fly. We already

1202
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 3: know like Joe Ault is a dog. We know Slater

1203
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: is a dog. But they just need them out there

1204
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: because they barely had.

1205
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: Him this year. Yeah. No, I mean they lost Slater

1206
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: in the preseason.

1207
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they lost all very early in the regular season.

1208
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: So no, you're right.

1209
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: They played most of the year just trying to patchwork

1210
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: that offensive line.

1211
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: But you know, wherever's there, Greg Grlan won't be We

1212
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: know that much.

1213
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: So I was gonna ask you about Abrian Hampton, but

1214
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: you you sort of kind of hinted at it. You

1215
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: feel like he's gonna be good next year. Lakwan, I

1216
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: know you're a big Hampton fan.

1217
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Hampton next year. Kamani Bydell being a

1218
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 4: free agent if he comes back, I would like the

1219
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 4: one two punchs to continue. I think, like Florio was saying,

1220
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 4: if he could stay healthy, that's the big thing. I mean,

1221
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: this is a workhorse running back and an offense that

1222
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: we presume want to still run the ball at a

1223
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 4: high efficient rate. So I think Hampton he lives in

1224
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 4: that high end RB two low and RB one is

1225
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 4: just a matter whoever comes in.

1226
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 1: Texan Steelers game that was kind of dull, and then

1227
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: the Steelers basically vomited on their shoes in the fourth quarter,

1228
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: es mostly the Aaron Rodgers vomited on his shoes in

1229
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and the Texan scored twenty three points

1230
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: ran off with a win. As you were talking, just now,

1231
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: this news came across my timeline via Tom Pellasero. Mike

1232
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: Tomlin is stepping down as Steelers coach, sources tell the Insiders. Wow,

1233
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: I love the quint hitting the absolute cinema like that.

1234
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: It literally just came across my timeline as you were

1235
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: talking about Hampton, Mike Tomlin's stepping down as the Steelers coach.

1236
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 2: Your immediate thoughts, fellas.

1237
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 5: Changes are happening.

1238
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 6: Wow, what now?

1239
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: Get ready to talk last place in Pittsburgh. I'm telling

1240
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: it like, look, I mean, wow, long, long term, I

1241
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: think this could be better for them because they were

1242
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 3: stuck in football purgatory and we're never gonna get out

1243
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 3: because Mike Tomlin was going to keep them far too

1244
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 3: competitive for them to be able to just completely reset.

1245
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 3: But it's gonna get bad before it gets good again.

1246
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 3: I think, like I think they're going to bottom out

1247
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 3: this next year or two, the Browns have a chance.

1248
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 2: To your point, that's that's good for them.

1249
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: That is good for them because they have been living

1250
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: in football purgatory for years now, right, Like, Yeah, it's

1251
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: cool that you haven't had a losing season, but you're

1252
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: not getting a high draft pick. But you're also not

1253
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: really a threat to win a Super Bowl. You are

1254
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: doing what was it? They've lost seven straight first round

1255
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: matchups in the playoffs and haven't been close to really

1256
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: any of them. I think I saw last night that

1257
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: they have not had a second half snap with the

1258
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: lead in any of their last seven playoff games.

1259
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm just saying this though. It's I agree, Marcus, it's

1260
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: good for the long term Stealer fans. Next season, you're

1261
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: gonna miss this, right, Like you're gonna miss getting excited

1262
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: for a playoff game. You're gonna miss having that week

1263
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 3: eighteen Sunday night game again, like stuff like that, Like

1264
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: cause it's I think I think the next two or

1265
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: three years might just be like worst team in football, bad.

1266
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: Could be very well could be. So then that that

1267
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: begs the next question. I mean, I guess my answer

1268
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: was different, what.

1269
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: Do you think DK's thinking right now?

1270
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: But my so my answer to this question was different

1271
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: ten minutes ago than it is right now. Lak, what

1272
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: have we really seen the last of Aaron Rodgers? Ten

1273
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: minutes ago, I would have said maybe not. Now I'm

1274
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: kind of like, I think it's a rap. I think

1275
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: he's done. I don't think he wants to come back

1276
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: for another coach, and I don't think any team wants him.

1277
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 4: That one fan after the game that was like, retire Rogers.

1278
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 5: I think we might get that.

1279
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: It might be a dumb because who's coming in wanting

1280
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: to deal with this? First of all, it might be

1281
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 4: a jet situation. New guy comes in like no what,

1282
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 4: We're moving in a different direction, and then walk completely

1283
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 4: out our room Like that might just be another scenario

1284
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: if he's thinking about staying in Pittsburgh. But I think

1285
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: we might have seen the last of Rogers. I mean,

1286
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: shout out to Mike Garrifolo making this connection with the WAE.

1287
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: This is kind of like how Johnson had tapped out

1288
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 4: to gum through, like just kind of it's over, you know,

1289
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 4: like it's one of the situations that you hope he

1290
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 4: walks away from the game because I don't want to

1291
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 4: see him trying to find another team this next season,

1292
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 4: end up with a mediocre season, and then your legacy

1293
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 4: has already been kind of wishy watched these last couple

1294
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 4: of years.

1295
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's one team, was one only one I think

1296
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: that has a that could maybe get Rogers to come

1297
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: out of retirement, the Minnesota Vikings, because.

1298
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: Now you think, do you think you really want to

1299
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: do that though just because the far stick it to

1300
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: Green Bay sort of thing.

1301
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 3: No, this is more just that he he has a

1302
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: favorable play caller there that he has uh some relationship

1303
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 3: with uh. There's clear cut weapons there that that he

1304
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: could succeed with. And there's a huge quarterback question and

1305
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 3: a huge backup quarterback question that I could see them

1306
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 3: coming in and either being the mentor to nine or

1307
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: maybe I don't know, but that's the I think more

1308
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 3: than likely last night, was it. Do you think he

1309
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: wants to be a mentor? I don't think he does. No,

1310
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: I think he thinks he could beat out JJ McCarthy.

1311
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that's that's probably true.

1312
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's at least a real competition, like.

1313
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 3: You know, like I'm not that's the only I think

1314
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 3: he retires. But that's the only team that came to

1315
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 3: mind that he needs to go start a family.

1316
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 5: Bro, just sit down. He's supposed to be married.

1317
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: They killed.

1318
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 4: They just chill out, Bro, Like I don't want to

1319
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 4: see him continue on playing football anymore. Like I'm kind

1320
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 4: of over it. Like this was kind of like your

1321
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 4: last hurrah. You exited out left. I mean, Tomlin's stepping down,

1322
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 4: like the ratings on the wall, Bro, just just chalk

1323
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 4: it up.

1324
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: It's it's been good.

1325
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1326
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: I think I think that's that's kind of a wrap

1327
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. I think the last image we're gonna

1328
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: see him is in getting trucked by Kayln Bullock on

1329
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: a pick.

1330
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: You know what. That was Brady's last player as a Patriot,

1331
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 3: So it was.

1332
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: But he also like he erased that. He erased that

1333
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: tays oh yeah, oh in a big, big way.

1334
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: Rogers thought he was gonna go out like Brady and

1335
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: oh yeah, he went out sad.

1336
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah again, Like not everybody gets that, man, not everybody

1337
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: gets that.

1338
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 3: Most people don't. Most go out sad.

1339
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: Well, either sad or just like like most times, the

1340
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: league sort of retires you at least Rogers has the

1341
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: chance to kind.

1342
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: Of walk away on his own terms.

1343
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, he didn't win the division, make

1344
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 3: the playoffs, and like I know it, technically, they didn't

1345
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 3: win a playoff game. Sunday Night Football Week eighteen was

1346
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 3: a playoff game, like I know it true in the

1347
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 3: history books, is a regular season game. But that was

1348
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: a playoff game.

1349
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was, I mean because and it turned

1350
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: out well at first, I say it was a loser

1351
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: leave the playground sort of thing, right, because the Ravens

1352
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: lose and they fired John Harbaugh. And then a week

1353
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: later Mike Tomlin is no more as the head coach

1354
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Crazy to see listening in my lifetime,

1355
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: whoever gets hired will be only the fourth head coach

1356
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: of the Pittsburgh Steelers in my entire lifetime. I was

1357
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: old enough to see Chuck Knowle near the end of

1358
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: his career, then Bill Cower, then Mike Tomlin, and now

1359
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: whoever it is it's going.

1360
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: To come next.

1361
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: People love to play this game with a certain quarterback,

1362
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 3: Josh Allen. I'm gonna play it with two others, Joe

1363
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 3: Burrow and Lamar Jackson. You have appsbsolutely no excuse next year, zero, none, none, whatsoever.

1364
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: If you can't injury in playoffs or win a division

1365
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 3: with this division maybe the worst in football, to get

1366
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 3: out of here, you're not elite. Yeah, that's what it works, right,

1367
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: that's how he is crazy, bro. Come on, Yeah, I'm

1368
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: poking the bear here because people were saying that for

1369
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 3: for weeks to know about a certain someone.

1370
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: Is the So what's going to be the worst worst

1371
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: division next year? The AFC North or the NFC South?

1372
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: The South because Burrow and Lamar the South.

1373
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 2: All right, that's probably fair.

1374
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, a couple of couple of bombshell coaching

1375
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: moves as we were doing the show to do we.

1376
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: Got to while we're recording, guys, nice.

1377
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: Really, man, absolutely incredible. I don't even know what to say.

1378
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: I think that's just that's just how we end the

1379
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: show at this point.

1380
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 3: At this point at drop cheez.

1381
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1382
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: So that'll do it, man. Be sure to tune in

1383
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: again on Thursday. Scott Porter should be in to talk

1384
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,959
Speaker 1: some Bills and Broncos and kind of wrap up.

1385
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: His fantasy season as well.

1386
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: That should be a whole lot of fun, So looking

1387
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: forward to hearing that one once you guys are able

1388
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: to lock that down, But in the meantime.

1389
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: That'll do it for this wild and wily.

1390
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: Edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe

1391
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: and healthy, do good and live well. Enjoy the week, everybody.

1392
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again on Thursday.

1393
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: Wo