1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George, and 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: are you with you? We will take your calls next 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: hour with Robert Felix, author of Not By Fire But 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: by Ice and Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps. Robert is 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: a former architect. He became interested in ice age cycles 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: way back in nineteen ninety one and spent the next 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: eight and a half years full time. We're searching writing 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: about the coming ice age. Robert, Welcome back, my friend. 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: How are you under all these circumstances. I'm doing very well, George, 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I understand you have moved on. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: Where'd you move to? I have? You know? I used 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: to live in a Seattle area all these years, and 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: I just kept thinking, you know, if I'm telling people 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: that an ice age is coming, then what in the 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: devil am I doing staying here? So last year I 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: moved south. I moved to Texas and moved to a 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: part of Texas. You know, during the last ice age, 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: certainly not all of the world was covered with ice, 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: that's true, And so I'm in an area that I 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: think is going to work out just fine. Plus it's 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: a right now with all of the political stuff going on, 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm kind of glad I'm out of the Seattle area 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: for that reason too. You and i've been talking about 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: this for at least seventeen eighteen years now, have you 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: changed your thoughts at all? Are we in this ice age? No? 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: You know I we talked way back when you were 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis. That's right, and my night talk show. 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, there are several astrophysicists. Now 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're following me, but that would be crazy, 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: But there are several astrophysicists who say that we are 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: in a little ice age at the very beginning of 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: a little ice age right now. Well you believe that too, though, 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: don't you. Well? I do, Yeah. I think it's it's 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: already started. It's just that it takes a while for 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: it to gear up so that people understand what's happening. Well. 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Correct the confusion too for Robert, because in ice ages 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: you do get very warm summers. Correct, you can get 39 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: warm summers. The main thing that I see with the 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: entry at least to an ice age, especially a little 41 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: ice age, is that you have the rainy season last 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: a little bit longer in the spring, and then you 43 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: have the rainy season start a little bit earlier in 44 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: the fall, and it doesn't take very many weeks earlier 45 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: on each end of that to mess with your food supplies. 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: And that's that's the biggest concern I have with entering 47 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: a little ice age. Why do you believe we are 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: headed this way? Well, because of some of the things 49 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: I'm seeing. Well right now, I just let me just 50 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks, we had surprised winter 51 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: storm dropped seventeen inches of snow in Wyoming. That was 52 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: on September eleventh. Kansas City smashes cold records set more 53 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: than one hundred years ago. That was on September eleventh, 54 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: and then they did that they smashed the cold record 55 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: two days in a row. Denver had the earliest freeze 56 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: on record going back more than one hundred and fifty years. 57 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: That was on September tenth. New record lows in Minnesota 58 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: on September tenth. Cold is high in Texas. Now it 59 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: was cold where I was, but in Midland, Texas, the 60 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: coldest high was fourteen degrees lower than it ever had 61 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: been before on record that was September ninth. I mean 62 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: the list goes on winter snow blankets parts of Alberta 63 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: on September ninth, record cold record snow fallen South Dakota 64 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: September ninth. So it's happening right now. It's just the 65 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: people because it's happening in various areas and not in 66 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: the entire world. By we kind of laugh it off 67 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: and say, oh, well, you know, that's just that's that's 68 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: just there. But I see that happening more and more, 69 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: both in the fall and in the spring. So but 70 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: the other part, as I said, there's there's many astrophysicists. Um, 71 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: they're joining your team, aren't they. They are you know, 72 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: they don't mean to be joining my team. But at 73 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: least I was saying it first. And now this is 74 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: really feeling pretty all. I shouldn't say it's feeling good, 75 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: but it at least verifies what I've been saying. Did 76 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: the last ice age end about eleven thousand, seven hundred 77 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: years ago? It did? It did, And there is That's 78 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: part of the reason that I've concerned. Because there is 79 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: a cycle ice ages. There's also a cycle to magnetic reversals. Now, 80 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: is the ice age based on the sun or magnetic reversals? Well, 81 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think it's both. Any missing 82 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: many ice age, which I think that we're heading into 83 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: right now, would be based on the Sun because because 84 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: of the low sunspot count, there's a huge you know 85 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: if you ask me about that later. But it has 86 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: to do with the sunspots. But there's also my concern 87 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: about a magnetic reversal because our magnetic field strength is 88 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: declining rapidly and I think that I think we're headed 89 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: for another magnetic reversal too. But magnetic reversals, there is 90 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: a cycle to magnetic reversals, or at least magnetic excursions 91 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: that return almost like clockwork, every eleven about every eleven thousand, 92 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: five hundred years, and those magnetic reversals correlate with periods 93 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: of glaciation. Now, when you talk about a mini ice age, though, Robert, 94 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: what does that mean exactly? What's what's a mini ice 95 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: age as opposed to the ice age. We had a 96 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: mini ice age essentially in the sixteen hundreds. It was 97 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: a time a lot of people have never even heard 98 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: of sun spots, but it was a time where there 99 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: were no sun spots on the sun for about eighty years, 100 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: and the temperatures declined and ice started started crawling out 101 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: of the Alps. People know that because there were farmers 102 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: that applied for reduced taxes because their pastures were covered 103 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: with ice. But during the Little Ice Age, which was 104 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: about the sixteen hundreds and around that time, the earth 105 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: didn't cool that much more, but it cooled enough that 106 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: that crops were lost in the fields because because farmers 107 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: couldn't really get their horses out into the field, and 108 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: they couldn't plant because it was too muddy. And then 109 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: come the fall that they couldn't harvest because it was 110 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: it was too wet, and literally millions and I do 111 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: mean millions of people died of starvation. I bet I 112 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: fear that we could be looking at another such thing. 113 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: That's that's a mini ice age. The whole world didn't 114 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: get covered by ice at all, but the weather was 115 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: really miserable. In fact, I have a thing right at 116 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: the top of my website or close to it burning 117 00:07:53,680 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: climate skeptics at the stake is during that period, you know, 118 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: they were blaming humans for the bad weather, just the 119 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: same as they do now. You know, I don't think 120 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: it has anything to do with humans. I think it 121 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: all has to do with cycles. But anyway, there were 122 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: so many crop losses in Europe and really around the world. 123 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: But in Europe they figured that around fifty thousand people 124 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: were burned the steak. They were called witches because it 125 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: was their fault because of the weather. And I hate 126 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: to see us doing that again, blaming humans of the weather. 127 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: They found a wooly mammoth in Siberia that had been 128 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: frozen to death instantly. It still had food in its mouth. 129 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: How fast do the temperatures plummet during an ice age, Well, 130 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of scientists have said 131 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: that ice ages begin slowly over you know, was just 132 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: a gradual plummeting thousands of years. But there was a 133 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: project called GRIP Greenland Ice Core Project way back in 134 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: the I think early nineties. But what they did is 135 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: they drilled cores into the ice in central Greenland that 136 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: they went down deep knife I think almost two miles 137 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: deep where they were able to look at ice that 138 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: had accumulated during the last two hundred and fifty thousand years, 139 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: and they discovered that every single ice age, I mean 140 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: every single one of them began in less than twenty years, 141 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: and they did that from climates as warm as today, 142 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: and then boom, twenty years later, they're in an ice age. 143 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, it can, It can happen fast. 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