00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff. 00:00:35 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:46 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. I hope you're having a nice day. It's about eleven am and uh, let's see. I have the big news this morning as I made an legal left turn. God knows what I'll do next, but it felt good, and that's essentially been my week so far. I hope that your it's your birthday. I hope you're having a nice day, and I'm glad you've decided to listen to this podcast. I don't know why we're talking about that, it doesn't matter. I want to talk about our guests. I want to talk to our guest. You want to hear from our guest. He's wonderful. Everyone loves him. It's Will Arnett. Will. 00:01:28 Speaker 2: Thank you for inviting me on the program. I'm such a. 00:01:32 Speaker 3: Fan, Oh bless you. 00:01:35 Speaker 2: I have been for many years. I'm a real fan. I was it was funny. I was listening to your episode of your podcast with Julia Klausner, and she was saying, I love you online, and I thought, well, I do too, and it's such a funny way to put it. 00:01:50 Speaker 3: I love you online in person, no thank you, no thank you. 00:01:55 Speaker 4: But online. But I'm such a fan. 00:01:57 Speaker 2: I got to know you from Twitter right years ago, and we followed each other many many moons ago. 00:02:04 Speaker 3: Back when Twitter was a decent time, back. 00:02:08 Speaker 2: When it was and it was all just about having fun and posting funny stuff, and you were one of those people. I would look forward to the things that you would post all the time because I would always get a great laugh. I just and now I can barely go to Twitter because it's such it's so depressing. Yeahway, that's how we kind of met, though without getting into white social media is terrible. 00:02:32 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, everybody knows at this point why. I don't need to remind everyone getting on social media will be a quick reminder for them. So you don't spend much time on Twitter anymore. 00:02:43 Speaker 2: Not much anymore. It's way way too pressed, too depressing. It's just it's been dominated by the unfunniest people in the world. It used to be where you get a lot of funny and I wouldn't even include myself. I was much more of a sort of a voyeur. But there were people like you, and there were so many interesting funny voices on there, you know, five, eight, ten years ago, and it's now dominated by virtual virtue signaling amongst people who want everybody to know that they're doing the right thing right. 00:03:16 Speaker 4: And it's a race to be right. Everybody's racing. 00:03:20 Speaker 2: It's not just about being right, it's about how quickly you can put it out there. I'm amazed by people by how much how right they are about every subject. There are people I follow who am I kind of like, or I kind of know every bloody subject that comes up, they're like, and then this, and then so and so shouldn't be doing it. And then I'm like, wait, you were just as impassioned about kum quats yesterday and now you're about this, and tomorrow it will be whatever the next news item is, and I'm like, settle down. 00:03:54 Speaker 3: Of course. I mean, it's just such a that mentality is so far from my own. I am I'm uncertain about what I'm going to have for breakfast, and even after I like, if you asked me what I had, I wouldn't be able to quite confidently tell you. So to get online and be like everyone this is exactly the truth is very it's a difficult mindset for me to understand. 00:04:14 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. You say you're unsure about what to have for breakfast. Do you feel confident that you could defend your choice after you've had breakfast? 00:04:22 Speaker 3: Absolutely not, Absolutely not. I will, I will turn around and I'll throw myself under the bus. 00:04:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. 00:04:29 Speaker 2: Well listen, I know this is your podcast, and I feel like I've taken over already, and forgive me. I had a little bit of sugar. But I do want to ask you. I have to ask you the question that I feel a lot of people like me want to know. 00:04:41 Speaker 4: If it's okay if I ask you a question. 00:04:43 Speaker 3: Of course, this will be the last one on this podcast, though. Okay, this is the last question. What is going on with your volleyball team? The volleyball team ended in violence. Let's just say there was. It was a long There were ups that were downs, there were long periods of silence. There were legal battles, there was love, romance, pancake breakfasts, but. 00:05:12 Speaker 2: Quite a wild ride that was for years with you and your volley well team. 00:05:16 Speaker 4: It was incredible. 00:05:19 Speaker 3: That for me is still one of the most shocking things that anyone was on board for outside of myself. I was at home for the holidays. I made a trip to Macy's with my mom. She had to go in and return something. I was sitting on the carboard, and for whatever reason, began that journey and then just did it for years and years. 00:05:44 Speaker 2: The credit I mean, for people who don't know you, Printer started you started tweeting about this relation, somewhat volatile relationship between you and your fictitious volleyb Sorry I shouldn't say fictitious, I'm so. 00:05:59 Speaker 3: Sorry, not tites and not entirely volatile. There was love there that you know. It was a complicated. It took years off my life. 00:06:11 Speaker 2: But there were moments that this is what always got me. There were so many times when like, you're kind of this is what we're Social media was great, Are you having a crappy day? And I'd look on Twitter and there'd be something about like you and your volleyball team, and it would make me it would just brighten my day. 00:06:27 Speaker 3: Oh that makes me so bad. Yeah, that really makes me happy. But yeah, the volleyball team has been laid to rest as I'm just not on Twitter anymore, and. 00:06:40 Speaker 4: So are you not on Twitter anymore at all? 00:06:42 Speaker 3: I get on to tell people this podcast is on, which I'm sure people are just like, this isn't what I signed up for. Leave me alone. I'm not on Twitter to get a link to a podcast. But that's, you know, deal with it. The only reason I was on Twitter in the first place was it was fun, and I was like, I want to be a writer and I don't know anyone, and so that's how I connected to the entertainment industry in any way. And once I got a writing job, I was like, it's over now. But then I was addicted to it, and so. 00:07:07 Speaker 4: I it happened through Twitter. 00:07:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel, probably, I mean you were probably somehow involved with this because you used to be very supportive of me and me because of me. Probably wow, you me then blessed him. He reached out and offered me a writing job kind of sight unseen almost, and we met and like talked about bands I liked, and he said, well, you don't seem like you're out of your mind, would you like a job, And that's how I like my writing career started. It's really wild. 00:07:41 Speaker 4: I have no idea. 00:07:42 Speaker 2: First of all, I want to be the first time that Jimmy has, you know, stolen an idea for me. I say that with a lot of confidence. And I hope that he I hope that he begins legal action against me because I want everything to be revealed in court. 00:08:00 Speaker 4: But I will say I'm. 00:08:01 Speaker 2: Not surprised because one of the first tweets that you that you released or that you put out released. 00:08:08 Speaker 3: Guys, I'm giving up for another tweet releases my new tweet drops neck tweet. 00:08:16 Speaker 2: And no you you had this tweet that I had a tough time finding because I wanted to get it right because it didn't really exist anywhere anyway. Was the tweet was simply and when there was only one set of footprints in the sand, that's when I was on your shoulders. 00:08:31 Speaker 4: In a bikini. 00:08:33 Speaker 2: I'm sure that tweets to me, that's an iconic tweet. 00:08:37 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is that really warms my heart. 00:08:41 Speaker 4: Richard, that is that tweet is so huge. 00:08:44 Speaker 2: That is such a funny joke to me, I've I have repeated it so many times to people. So anyway, that's very sweet. 00:08:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess this is the confirmation that Jimmy Kimmel has nothing to do with my career. It's more Will aren't. Well yeah, there, absolutely Jimmy did very little for me. He was cruel. He uh you know, ultimately was cold and our relationship deteriorated quickly. And uh, you know John's about right. You wish you were in core with him, but you don't want to be. I've I've done it multiple times. 00:09:23 Speaker 2: Oh you've done multiple time. 00:09:24 Speaker 3: Okay, right, yeah, so he gets nasty. 00:09:29 Speaker 4: I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. 00:09:31 Speaker 2: Will. 00:09:31 Speaker 3: How's that life in general? 00:09:32 Speaker 2: For you? Life in general is really good, fun and good and crazy, and you know. 00:09:40 Speaker 4: It's been crazy like anybody else. 00:09:42 Speaker 2: The last eighteen months have been really bizarre, sure, but also good. You know, I had we all managed to stay safe, my my, my youngest. A couple of my kids got sick. Uh did they get COVID. 00:09:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the first time I'm releasing. This is a huge news story. 00:10:03 Speaker 3: Well this will be yeah. 00:10:05 Speaker 2: Here, I'm going to get picked up by everybody, BBC News and. 00:10:10 Speaker 4: Mainly the Brits care about my news. It's strange. It's a fixation. 00:10:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really lauded over there. It's nuts anyway. 00:10:24 Speaker 4: So yeah, I didn't have that. 00:10:25 Speaker 2: So we had a couple of youngsters got COVID in our family. 00:10:29 Speaker 3: But you managed to get away from it. 00:10:33 Speaker 2: We managed everybody else managed to stay safe. It was a crazy It was just crazy how it all went down. 00:10:37 Speaker 3: But and was this like early on pandemic or mid pandemic. 00:10:42 Speaker 2: Oh, this is mid pandemic. This is right as you know, just in the winter. And oh my gosh, we were so close. It was kind of like, you know what, it's so sad. My great uncle whom I never met, and it's tough for me to talk about them, even though I never better. My great uncle died in World War two, but actually he died. He died like late May nineteen forty five. 00:11:12 Speaker 3: The war was No, that's not when you want to die, no, And so. 00:11:18 Speaker 2: It was crushing for my grandparents. I can talk about it because my grandparents have both have both passed. Let me finish to the other side. 00:11:29 Speaker 3: They passed on this podcast. 00:11:30 Speaker 2: They passed on this. They both passed on the podcast. 00:11:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were my third choice because. 00:11:34 Speaker 2: They were they they weren't tech avail. But anyway, so yeah, but it was tough for my grandparents. There's their son, my great grandparents. Their son died in the wow right after the seaspire. Yeah, it was too bad. That was kind of like the kids, the little kids in our family getting it. My son and step son got it at We're like, no way made it through. 00:12:01 Speaker 3: Good Lord, And you had a baby last year right. 00:12:05 Speaker 2: Here, that's the one that's the one who got it wow wild Denny. 00:12:10 Speaker 3: Okay, well that's I mean, I'm glad everything worked out. 00:12:13 Speaker 2: Everything worths out great. Yeah, so anyway, so he everybody's great now, and everybody's fine and healthy and luckily and you know, obviously all grace to Woden and I worship Norse gods. 00:12:28 Speaker 3: But no, it's the only thing anyone knows about you. 00:12:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, shut up, shut up. He's not even a Viking. He's from Canada anyway, So everything, but everything's good. Everybody's good. 00:12:42 Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't know what else too. 00:12:45 Speaker 3: Have you been able to do anything now that things are opening up? Are you traveling or doing anything like that? 00:12:50 Speaker 4: Well? 00:12:50 Speaker 2: Work wise, workwise, working a little bit we were able to I do a really fun family show for the Fox Corporation called Lego Mass of course. Yeah, and so it's a Lego building show and it's really fun. And I'm firmly in the Lego verse right, of course, movies and TV specials and TV show building shows and all this sort of stuff. And so we made another season in the Lego Show when we're about to start shooting another show for Netflix next month, and so work wise, we're getting back into it. 00:13:23 Speaker 3: Beautiful. 00:13:24 Speaker 2: I say we when I'm talking about myself. I don't know if you noticed. 00:13:29 Speaker 3: Oh I noticed, and I'm just getting angry or and angry. 00:13:33 Speaker 4: I thought you looked like you were filling with rage. 00:13:38 Speaker 3: What are you doing for Netflix? We're doing a new show called murder Town. Oh I've heard about this. Yeah, it's such a fun concept. 00:13:47 Speaker 2: It's it's there are elements of improv where we have on. We brought this. There's a very funny show out of the UK called Murder and Successful, and so we brought that over here. And what we're doing is is is making a few changes, but the conceit is the same, which is we have every episode there's a murder and we have a. 00:14:08 Speaker 4: Guest come on and they have to. 00:14:11 Speaker 2: They don't know what's going on, they don't know, they don't have any lines, and they have to improvise and kind of play along with all of us. 00:14:17 Speaker 4: So we all have dialogue. 00:14:19 Speaker 3: Oh that's so fun. And we have to solve a murder every week, right, right? So you how do you even prepare for that sort of thing? 00:14:27 Speaker 4: So we it's it's a it's a tough process. 00:14:29 Speaker 2: I mean in terms of you know, our head writer and show runner christ Rah Johnson, he's awesome and he's we have to really and all our writers we have to. They have to sort of map out exactly how we want the episodes to go, and then we have to just have a bunch of sort of rules to every episode of what the things are and who the murderer is and who the suspects are. And then we just have to bring expose the guests, the rookie cop to all of these things and interviews and whatever, and then they have to guess who the murderer is. 00:15:02 Speaker 3: I'm really excited about that. It's fun, right, Are you into murder stuff? In general? True crime is such an enormous thing. 00:15:10 Speaker 4: I I love murder, just. 00:15:13 Speaker 3: Personally getting into it. 00:15:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just love it. I feel like you're a fan of murderer. 00:15:20 Speaker 3: I'm of course, I have a long you know, a long history of murder, and it's you know, top of the list for me. 00:15:29 Speaker 2: I truthfully, I do like I do like those murder shows. I watch a lot of detective shows out of Europe. 00:15:38 Speaker 3: Sure, sure, yeah, there's so many, so many, the abundance of European murder shows. 00:15:43 Speaker 4: So there's obviously a lot of them. 00:15:45 Speaker 2: They complain about murdering Americas, it seems like there's a lot of murder in Europe. 00:15:50 Speaker 3: I know, deal with your own problems. 00:15:52 Speaker 4: Just go check the woods. A lot of murdered bodies in there. I love these. 00:15:58 Speaker 2: I can't get enough of the darker it is, you know, if it's set in the arden forest of Belgium, set it in France, set it in Germany, in the UK, I'm there right right. 00:16:08 Speaker 4: I love it. 00:16:09 Speaker 2: I love those dark shows. I don't watch any comedy. I don't know about you, I don't watch barely. 00:16:13 Speaker 3: I mean, a comedy has to be really like the best comedy ever created for me to enjoy it at this point. Yeah, same, I have a pretty uh low tolerance for like middle of the road comedy. It's like, what am I? Why am I watching this? 00:16:27 Speaker 4: Yeah? Is that fun? But do you feel like when you were younger, And certainly I do. 00:16:32 Speaker 2: When I was younger, I watched a lot more and of course, yeah, much higher tolerance for it. 00:16:37 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, I think getting into the business definitely makes it difficult to enjoy comedy in any way. But for the most part, I watched drama. It's like every couple of years, I'll see a comedy that I really love, and but otherwise it's almost entirely drama. What was the last comedy you watched? 00:16:56 Speaker 4: I do like that show that Tim Robinson does. 00:17:00 Speaker 3: Course, I think you should. 00:17:01 Speaker 2: I usually he's he's such a funny voice, that guy. I think he's so cool. And then of course, like Kievan Orma and Andy produced at you Know the Right, and I'm like, yeah, of course I love those guys, And but that was kind of like the last thing that I He just came out with a second season and I watched the first couple and they were pretty funny. Man, He's just a funny dude. But other than that, there's not a lot I just haven't watched. I can't even be critical. I just haven't watched. 00:17:34 Speaker 3: You know. 00:17:34 Speaker 2: Part of the thing is for me, I watched my own kids, my older kids who are ten and twelve. I'll hear them because they're often in corners of rooms like this, like just you know, hunkered down with their face against their phone right, watching right, and I can What happens is I can hear where they are in the house based on the constant stream of sort of TikTok or TikTok like videos right with a couple of seconds, a couple of. 00:18:02 Speaker 4: Sound bites like a you know whatever, and what are we doing? 00:18:08 Speaker 3: I have absolutely no idea. I mean, maybe I'm a thousand years old at this point. But it's very difficult and it's terrifying. Also when you're like comedy that requires some level of thought and whatever, and then suddenly it's just quick cuts of people doing slightly wacky things. It feels weird. 00:18:29 Speaker 2: It does feel it does feel weird, it feels uncomfortable, and it feels and so what I have to end up doing is I have to check myself and say, like, am I just am I is this what getting old looks like? And am I just repeating something that the generation before me did? But I think that one of the common denominators that we have that we share and I say we, I mean me and you and people who enjoy comedy, is that we enjoy funny jokes. I point out to your the tweet that you put out, it's a really funny joke. It's there's a there's a there's something behind it, there's it's witty. You're referencing, uh, you know, you visually get like there are a bunch of different pieces to it. So you've constructed an idea and a joke. What we're living through now is so that that's just without wit. 00:19:22 Speaker 3: Yes, well, I do want to, you know, turn the conversation towards something that's important and uncomfortable. I obviously invited you on this podcast a few weeks ago. I was so excited that you agreed to do it because you're kind of famously you know, difficult, and you know, you say no to everyone. So when you said yes, I was over the moon so excited. And then last night I get an email that you know, it says the subject is will our nets gift do not open before recording? And you know, my head just began to spin. It was right as I was trying to get to bed, and then I just had to lie awake for hours. What has Will done? I have a podcast called I Said No Gifts. Suddenly my email is just kind of under assault. So I just have to ask you what's going on here? 00:20:24 Speaker 2: First of all, the way you've characterized all of it is inflammatory, nest you have. Really you've now firmly. 00:20:34 Speaker 4: Pitted us against each other. 00:20:37 Speaker 3: My plan worked out? 00:20:38 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's unfortunate. 00:20:40 Speaker 2: I guess this is ultimately your master plan that we should have these sort of adversarial positions with each other. 00:20:45 Speaker 4: But great, here we are. 00:20:48 Speaker 2: Look, you said no gifts, and I know that's the podcast and that's the conced But I had a plan behind my gift because I knew I wanted to expose you for the attitude I knew you were going to have and that you were you were gonna come at me like this, and so I knew that I had to a good defense is a great great offense is good defense, or whichever the case I wanted. I needed to get a gift that I knew that I could use to my advantage in our new found relationship. 00:21:18 Speaker 3: So a sucker punch essentially a little bit. 00:21:21 Speaker 2: So I mean you'll see when you open the gift. 00:21:23 Speaker 3: Okay, so you want me to open it here on my pode. 00:21:27 Speaker 2: I definitely want you to open it on the podcast. Okay. 00:21:35 Speaker 3: Let me I'm going to click this and just see what. Okay, so we've got a link here, I'm going to click the link. 00:21:42 Speaker 2: Let me just say I also, I had a tough time when I did the gifts you are opening. Know that I had a tough time getting into Ross dressed for less they were not open. 00:21:54 Speaker 3: Well, I'm now opening this and I've been sent a twenty five dollars Target gift cards. Right, explain what's going on here. 00:22:03 Speaker 2: First of all, because I want it's the trojan horse of gifts. 00:22:07 Speaker 3: Of course, you have no idea. 00:22:09 Speaker 2: First of all, Target, it's very differ You're not gonna be able to get much for twenty five bucks a target, watch me. 00:22:14 Speaker 4: So so so. 00:22:18 Speaker 2: I think that you'll you're gonna end up exceeding it and you're gonna have to go into your own pocket. My game is going to conceivably cost you money because it will draw you into the store and then you're gonna end up having to pay more. And on top of which, you've probably successfully managed to extricate yourself off of all of these sort of Target and whatever kind of emails. And now you're back in My plan worked. These people are going to track you, Bridger. You're back in the system. I've got you watched in this system. 00:22:51 Speaker 3: I was off the grid for years. 00:22:53 Speaker 2: Off the grid, and we got you back. And the big corporation said, they said to me, and they said, camp Bridge or back. 00:23:03 Speaker 3: This is for me, truly, I mean, so this is the if this had just been given to me off podcasts, well, a Target gift card would send me into such a spiral, because any gift card to me is worth four times its value in cash. It suddenly is something I have to you know, plan, I have to figure out I'm going to use this on something I enjoy, not just on groceries, not just on a bag of socks. So had you given this to me for a birthday, it would be three years before I spent it, Really it would be, and I would be going to Target in the meantime, spending my own money. 00:23:40 Speaker 2: And but you would, but you would hold onto this, this coveted like it was like this holy grail of is that right? 00:23:47 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:23:48 Speaker 3: Because I don't know what's going on for me mentally, but the gift card needs to be spent on something that is not just part of my daily life. It needs to be spent on. But you make a good point here where twenty five dollars is a nice sweet spot for a gift card, where you're like, it doesn't quite add up to anything fun, right, but it's so you're you end up at the store spending more money. It's just you've kind of created a quicksand trap for me. 00:24:18 Speaker 4: It's a honey trap, is the spies used. 00:24:20 Speaker 3: To call it. It's a total honey It's a honey trap. 00:24:23 Speaker 4: You we drove. 00:24:24 Speaker 2: Those spies were drag you in with like a you know, back in the Cold War, with a pretty girl, and then all of a sudden, before you knew it, you were giving up all the goods and then and then and then the Russians had you. 00:24:35 Speaker 3: What's your general feeling on a gift card? 00:24:40 Speaker 4: That's tough. 00:24:40 Speaker 2: It's a tough one because I don't want to I don't want to say anything disparaging about a gift card because I don't want to rule them out. I guess it depends because I'd like to get him still, So I feel like I've here's what it is. Maybe I feel some guilt. And I've never said this out loud before. This is going to be revelatory. I have let a few gift cards go and expire over Oh you're kidding, no, And I'm going to say upwards of twenty thirty gift cards that were never spent and good, really good ones stay. 00:25:16 Speaker 3: How did that happen? 00:25:17 Speaker 2: Steak restaurants, massages? By the way, this is not a bit completely serious. This is what happened. And I let a bunch of them go. I don't know what happened. And then I was embarrassed. There was a certain sense of embarrassment and Shane that I did that because I thought like, if the person who gave them to me found out, they'd be like, first of all, I spent the money already and you didn't enjoy the gift. 00:25:45 Speaker 4: How stupid is that? And be how disrespectful? 00:25:51 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like in that situation you both just kind of worked as a team to give whatever business a little extra money. 00:25:57 Speaker 2: Well, that's a nice way to look at it. You know what, I actually do is I should have here's an appy ready, I'd love to give you a free app idea, and it's mine, but I'm transferring it to you right now, the ownership of it. So if any of your listeners and you're this is a this is now a legal document, this audio recording, you're ready. 00:26:16 Speaker 3: Right, And yeah, you'll get a shotgun blast of lawsuits if you take this gift this app idea for my idols. 00:26:24 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, shotgun You'll get a sot off shotgun to the knees and then one to the chest of lawsuits, so you're down on your knees and then the chest blows you away. So here's what here's here's the app idea, because I think that you'll use this, and I think that you'll develop this, and I want you to become a billionaire of this idea. It's an app that tracks whenever you get a gift card, you log it in and it lets you know when your gift cards are about to expire. 00:26:51 Speaker 3: This that is a legitimately good idea for an app. That's absolutely something that would work for someone like me. 00:26:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, how about that? 00:26:59 Speaker 2: And then alert you hate your gift card for Peter Luger's steakhouse is about to expire, you know, or whatever it. 00:27:07 Speaker 3: Is, right, so you just have this ticking time bomb of gift cards in your wallet. I mean, we can't all be will just apparently receiving gift card after gift card that he's throwing in the closet. 00:27:16 Speaker 2: Well, this is one of the things about being about being a top rank talent such as myself. You just get gift cards. You know, you just get showered talking about shotgun. I get shotgum blessed of gift cards. I've received a lot of gift cards I have. 00:27:35 Speaker 3: I think a gift card is a perfectly acceptable gift. I think that as a society we need to just turn around and people say they're thoughtless or whatever. I don't, you know, what are we talking about if someone gives me anything. I mean, unless it's like to Denny's. 00:27:50 Speaker 4: That seems like a slap in the face. 00:27:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like I don't want you to enjoy yourself. 00:27:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, although I do. 00:27:56 Speaker 2: Although you know, I like Denny's too, so I could I could have a real nice meal out of Denny's. So I take that back. Here's the other thing. If you got if you get a gift card. If I give you a gift card for Target's pretty close. But if I give you a gift card for Amazon and you say it's thoughtless? Is it thoughtless to give you a gift card to a place where you can buy pretty much anything? Right? 00:28:19 Speaker 3: I don't think. So you've spent money. You typed my email into a thing that's work. 00:28:25 Speaker 4: Can I buy a. 00:28:25 Speaker 2: Car on Amazon? 00:28:26 Speaker 4: I'm want to look up right now, I'm gonna see can you buy a car on Do you think? 00:28:30 Speaker 2: What do you think? 00:28:30 Speaker 3: I think we're probably six months away from you being able to buy a car on Amazon. 00:28:34 Speaker 4: So you don't think yet? 00:28:35 Speaker 2: Let me see. So I'm going to say, I'm going to say you can, and you're saying six months. Let's go, Uh car? Which should my serve search term be just card? 00:28:44 Speaker 3: I think Hundai's Sonata. I think by twenty twenty two you'll be able to buy a Hondai's Sonata on Amazon. 00:28:51 Speaker 2: Mark my words, Let's Sehndai Sonata well accessor Sonata accessories are definitely okay. 00:28:58 Speaker 3: So we're getting close. Yeah, look you can kind of can't you buy like a Tesla online? 00:29:05 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:29:05 Speaker 3: So we're getting I mean Amazon, certainly that's in the works. 00:29:09 Speaker 2: How great would it be to get a to get a gift card for Tesla? 00:29:13 Speaker 3: Oh my god. See that's another thing you're just gonna leave lying around until it expires. 00:29:19 Speaker 2: No, I'm not knowing, But how mad would you be if I gave you a gift card for Tesla for twenty five dollars? Then you've got to you've got to come up with the other thirty grand. 00:29:29 Speaker 3: Or Yeah, the real nightmare Tesla gift card would be like a twenty five thousand dollars Tesla gift card, because it's like, what is I now have to buy a Tesla but it's going to cost me thousands and thousands of dollars? 00:29:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be How infuriating would that be? 00:29:46 Speaker 3: Does Tesla have gift cards? That's the big question. I feel like Elon reach out Elon. 00:29:52 Speaker 2: I've been trying to get I've been trying to he doesn't have the guts to reach out to us. 00:29:56 Speaker 3: Of course not, do you think? 00:30:00 Speaker 2: Let me ask you. Let's bet on this. Do they have a gift card? Tesla gift card? 00:30:03 Speaker 3: I but a twelve to fifty of a target gift card that they do have them. 00:30:09 Speaker 2: I don't know where this comes from. 00:30:12 Speaker 4: I don't know too. 00:30:13 Speaker 3: Well, that's let's just assume. I mean Tesla does this feels like Tesla behavior. They must have a gift card or something. 00:30:23 Speaker 2: What about a gift card company that just makes gift. 00:30:27 Speaker 3: Cards, just gift cards that are like that. 00:30:30 Speaker 4: Can be used in different places? 00:30:32 Speaker 3: Is that all? Oh? I feel like that's a thing, isn't it. It's like, you know, you get like those visa cards. 00:30:38 Speaker 4: Or whatever, Ye like a visa debit? 00:30:40 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:30:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, you hit it off pretty well with your gift card app idea. Now it's gone to your head. You're just trying to that's true. And ask you do you spend much time at Target? That's my big question. 00:30:52 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't make Well, here's one thing I don't do. I don't spend a lot of time at Target. My kids love it Target, sure, they love it. But I don't personally spend a lot of time in a lot of stores. But I will say this what I don't like when people come at me with their Tarji joky. I'm like, oh, no, thank you, you can f you can f right off. That's never been funny. That's never been funny who started that, That's my big question. 00:31:26 Speaker 4: The same people who make TikTok in online. 00:31:29 Speaker 3: Video, you know, back to TikTok. I'm just remembering. I think the last time I watched a TikTok and I think it had migrated from TikTok to Instagram, as they do. But it was one of the darkest things I've ever seen. It was like a family of probably six people, you know, mom, dad, and all the kids in what was clearly like a promo for Subway, but they were like dancing around the kitchen holding Subway sandwhich is singing about eating Subway for lunch, and just trying to figure out the steps of that family or the steps the slippery slope that they were down going down. For the whole family to have to promote subway sandwiches and learn a song about them, it's just it's a really scary look into humanity, it really is. 00:32:13 Speaker 2: And I will say this, Look, I'm not opposed to I'm not opposed to the company TikTok. They haven't done anything wrong, they haven't crossed me yet. Yeah sure, right, But wait, do you know something. 00:32:26 Speaker 3: There's a lot of information online about you and TikTok. 00:32:30 Speaker 4: No I listen. 00:32:31 Speaker 2: I want to set the record straight because I feel like they would crush me, and they have a lot of lawyers and they could crush me. Like there's a guy called Scott Seiss. Do you know this guy know? And he started making these videos about IKEA, like he plays where he goes, he does the whole like, you know, I'm going to tell my friends not to shop here, and he bring it and goes, go ahead. 00:32:52 Speaker 4: You think I want five more us walking around here? Thank you. 00:32:56 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna get the vaccine then die. You're scared of the side effects. I'm scared of the disease. Like he's this really funny guy and I think his video started on TikTok but also on Twitter and stuff, and he's one of those guys like you, he's the version of you ten years later that he's a funny voice. I don't know he does this one specific thing for now, but like he started with this thing and he's really hit it, so there are there is space for it because I don't I realized, like I don't want to sound like a grandpa who's just bitter, you know. And by the way, nobody believe me as a grandpa. I mean, I could barely look older than thirty eight. And it's the lighting is terrible right now. I mean, honestly, I could do thirty four in better lighting, you'd be you could be a nice twenty three. Well, that's that's out of college. 00:33:44 Speaker 4: That's tough. 00:33:45 Speaker 2: But like a twenty, like a tired twenty nine, I could pull off with the right if you gave me half an hour and I got my team. Let me get my team in here, my team of lighting and makeup people. I could give you a tired twenty nine. Now, Bridger, let me ask you another question. 00:34:04 Speaker 3: Now that we're here, finally. 00:34:06 Speaker 4: Where are you? Finally? Where are you from? 00:34:08 Speaker 3: I'm from Utah? You are I'm from Salt Lake City, just well just outside of Salt Lake City. 00:34:13 Speaker 4: You're from Salt Lake City. 00:34:15 Speaker 3: Have you spent much time there? 00:34:17 Speaker 4: No? No, I've been through a couple of times. Okay, it's that's interesting. Okay, so it's bring a lot of stuff into focus. 00:34:25 Speaker 3: Well, I've what what is it bringing into focus? And I want to you can ask anything, because I feel like Utah is a place when I when people ask me and I say Utah, right, I mean NonStop. And it's it's interesting people are either really shy about asking that or they really extremely blunt in a way that is sometimes I I don't care either way, but it's interesting. I think people just don't know how to modulate that question. 00:34:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't really You're going to be happy to know that. I don't really care. 00:34:55 Speaker 3: Yes, this is I mean, that's so refreshing either way. 00:34:58 Speaker 4: But did you grow up in the Mormon faith? 00:35:01 Speaker 3: I did. My parents are active Mormons. I'm not, but I mean being homosexual has you know, makes that difficult. 00:35:10 Speaker 4: That's tougher for them, right. They don't have the best time with that with them. 00:35:14 Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, they are not great on that issue. I mean a lot Mormons themselves, like within the religion, like my family and stuff, are pretty cool about it, but like the organization in general is not good, not good with that. 00:35:31 Speaker 4: Well, that's not great. 00:35:32 Speaker 3: No, I would say that's not a positive, not a positive attribute of Mormons. 00:35:37 Speaker 2: I'm not fond of people who have positions like that, That's all I'll say. I'm not very sort of political, and I don't and I don't like to get self righteous about like well, God damn them. But I will say this, that's not very right of them to do. And let's just say that right right, believe it at that. Okay, So you grew up there. The Mormon Church kick you out, we viewed your words. So now so now you're now you're in Los Angeles. 00:36:04 Speaker 4: You're an LA guy. 00:36:05 Speaker 2: I thought, did you live in New York for a couple of years? 00:36:07 Speaker 3: I did. I lived there for a year. I was working on Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, and so it was like I had been in LA for maybe six years. I moved to New York and worked on Kimmy Schmidt. Then we went on a super long hiatus and I moved back to LA. 00:36:21 Speaker 2: And then so you moved back to LA, right? I think I knew that you moved back to LA because I know a couple of trying to think, who else I know who knows you? A couple of people who are well, I know a lot of people who are fans of yours and uh in the same way that I am. So you moved back to LA. Now, what are you working on anything currently right now? 00:36:39 Speaker 3: On that the kind of show I was just on Black Monday that don Chiel and you know Paul Shear, I didn't know that. Yeah, wonderful show. Hopefully it'll come back for another season. 00:36:49 Speaker 2: That's it's a great show. I know, Uh, I know Dom a little bit just to say hello to kind of friendly and I know Paul shere. Have known Paul for a long time. Of course, in fact, in fact, I have not answered an email from Paul from yesterday. 00:37:07 Speaker 4: Good for you. Yeah, and I'm gonna make him square them another. 00:37:10 Speaker 3: Day, right, let him think that maybe he did something wrong. 00:37:15 Speaker 2: And you know, I've known a lot of those guys from that his sort of that whole crew from the old UCB days. 00:37:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're an interesting person and that you, I mean, you're like truly a legend at this point as far as comedy goes. But then, like we just rewatched Sopranos and to see you in Sopranos is such a delight. 00:37:32 Speaker 2: That was funny, right, what a weird what was that experience? Like it was so weird. So I knew George jan Walkin, who is the casting director on Sopranos and also Chrisopher Walkins's wife, and she called me one day and said, day, Chase is from the soprano, of course, and he's he's got this new character he wants to maybe bring on the show. 00:37:58 Speaker 4: There was an FBI agent. 00:37:59 Speaker 2: Who was on the show who was investigating Michael Imperioli and was befriending his Drenda de Matteo's character, right, So he says, She said, David Chase is doing got this new character, and would you come in and meet with him? I said, of course. So I go out to Silver Cup Studios in Queen's on the on the subway there and I get there and I go in to read and I'm about to go in and she says, listen, David has written a line for this FBI guy. He doesn't know exactly what this character is. He's not even in a scene yet, but he's written a line just to hear it. And I said a line, one line. Not how weird. She goes, I know, I'm so sorry. She's very apologetic, and I've known her for years and she was very sweet and she's like, I'm really sorry. It's very weird, I know, but would you mind just coming in and saying this line in front of him? WHOA yeah, And it was some like some line, you know, like hey, listen like I don't know whatever, some sort of FBI E type line whatever. 00:38:56 Speaker 4: Right, So I was like, sure, I guess. 00:39:00 Speaker 2: So she brings me in. I got this piece of paper with a line on it, and I sit down and says an engine or I come in, David Jay, how do you do. 00:39:11 Speaker 4: Nice to meet you. Hi. 00:39:12 Speaker 2: My name is Will not Great. Okay, yeah, bah blah, sit down, okay, and this is the character and what I'm thinking about is maybe in a couple episodes and okay, great, so you want to do that? I go, yeah, okay, great. So I put my page down and I turned just slightly away from him, and I faced Georgia and walking. She kind of gives me the nod let go ahead, and I go okay, and I go. 00:39:34 Speaker 4: Line. 00:39:36 Speaker 2: I'd gone up on my line, my one line. Anyway, it brought the icy, he laughed. It really made him laugh. And then I did the line and I got the I got it. That's that's how it happened. It's so bizarre, weird, and so then it was great. I mean, at the time I was out of work, Amy had just that was the fall of two. 00:40:01 Speaker 4: One. 00:40:02 Speaker 2: I'm really good and I'm really good with dates in that way. It's very very weird. Amy had just started My ex wife, Amy had just started SNL, right, and I just moved back to New York because she was going to start SNL. I've been living in LA and she anyway, so we moved back to New York. And I needed work, right, I needed work, So I went and did that. 00:40:25 Speaker 4: It was fun. 00:40:26 Speaker 2: I got to be in a few episodes and just kind of hang around sure and you know, work with these talk to these directors and kind of see how they do that show, and just kind of I didn't have a lot to do. I ended up having a line here or there. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: I feel like at some point you're like holding a baby. 00:40:43 Speaker 2: May yeah, hold a baby. Actually, you know what was fun funny was the bay. So there was a scene where we had the baby was supposed to be crying. Right, I've never had this before, so the baby's supposed to be crying in the scene, we're supposed to be settling the baby. And the actress who played whose husband I played, she was I was there to kind of service her story. I got her name mixed up, I forget whatever. I was like my second day on set and anyway, so the babies. I'm trying to make the baby cry, the real baby, the real baby, because they I'm. 00:41:19 Speaker 3: So curious about this. I've always been curious about this in TV and movies, so I'm thrilled to hear. 00:41:24 Speaker 2: Usually because I've worked on Phil I've worked on a show once with Christine Applegate years ago where we had a baby in the show, right and the first season was great, but then the baby started, they didn't want to be there anymore, and rightfully, so they're babies, and I get it. Yeah, of course not. So you had we just have to. We got really good at like in those cases you shoot, the writers would write, like, you know, my character Chris would come in and pick up the baby and hold the baby, and we do a scene. 00:41:49 Speaker 4: We'd have a whole scene. 00:41:50 Speaker 2: I'd be like, no way, the baby's gonna start crying, crying halfway through and we're not gonna be able to get the scene. So I would come in with the baby, and every time, if you go back and watch that show, every time I put the baby down into a walker or into a playpen and keep it out of head height, you know, just keep it out of the close up so that we could shoot the whole scene if we had to with them, you. 00:42:11 Speaker 4: Know why, because I'm smart. 00:42:14 Speaker 2: So so anyway, so we're doing this this sopranos, and I go, we're trying to get the baby, so I kept leaning down. 00:42:22 Speaker 4: You know, anytime you lean down into a. 00:42:24 Speaker 2: Crib and there's a baby and it's on its back and you go to pick it up, babies will arch their back like in anticipation of you picking them up. Sure, sure, and if you don't, it makes them upset. So I knew that, So I just started to like go down almost to big happen, and then pull my hands away, wanting the baby to cry. But the baby was crying, and I ctirt, going come on, Lola, come on, Lola, come on, at which point the actress next to me and goes, I'm Lola, and I'm like, I'm so sorry. I just got. 00:42:56 Speaker 3: Confused, because she breaks down into she. 00:43:00 Speaker 2: Was mad, and I honestly, just get to know me a little bit longer you realize it's I'm so dumb. This is not unusual. I'm not the smart. You have to understand how dumb I am. 00:43:14 Speaker 3: Oh that's amazing. Yeah, I've always anytime a baby is crying on screen. I just think what led to them getting the baby crying? Does this count on some level as child abuse? 00:43:26 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it. I think it generally does. 00:43:29 Speaker 2: I think they do things like just like have the mom off right off Cameron and then the mom walks away. 00:43:34 Speaker 3: Oh that makes sense. Yeah, they do a lot of stuff like you can get a baby to cry pretty easily. 00:43:39 Speaker 4: Oh yo, I can make a baby cry. 00:43:41 Speaker 3: You've got a whole list of ways to make babies cary. 00:43:44 Speaker 2: Oh, leave me. I throw away pacifiers. I dump out bottles in front of them looking for this, and then I dump out a bottle. 00:43:56 Speaker 4: What a monster I am. 00:43:59 Speaker 3: Oh. Well, I think it's time to play a game. 00:44:02 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:44:02 Speaker 3: Do you want to play a game called Gift or a Curse or a game called Gift Master? 00:44:07 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Gift or a Curse? 00:44:09 Speaker 2: I like. 00:44:09 Speaker 3: Okay, I need a number between one and ten. 00:44:12 Speaker 4: Great. 00:44:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, the number I'll give you is five. Okay. 00:44:15 Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating. I have to get the game pieces we're going to play with the randomization of it. 00:44:20 Speaker 4: Right now. 00:44:21 Speaker 3: You can promote something, you can recommend something, you can do whatever you want. 00:44:23 Speaker 2: I'll be right back Okay, listen, I just want to take this opportunity say that Bridger is very happy that you've joined the podcast today. Here on exactly right and exactly right is a place is a home for entertainment. You know obviously Karen and Georgia cand of be here right now. But in their stead is the fabulous Bridger Wineger Winegar Winegarer. 00:44:55 Speaker 4: I knew it was Wineger. 00:44:57 Speaker 3: One of my agents doesn't know how to pronounce my last name. I don't know what to do at this point. 00:45:00 Speaker 4: I actually knew it. 00:45:04 Speaker 3: Well, that was a nice promotion, and I did a good job of calculating the pieces. This is how it works. Will I'm going to name three things. You're gonna tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why? And there are you have to I have to be so clear there are correct answers. You can lose this game, so just be careful, don't embarrass yourself, and try your hardest. Okay, okay. Number one, Uh this is a listener suggestion, so uh, just be prepared. This is from Rebecca. Rebecca suggested gift or a curse licking a nine volt battery. 00:45:42 Speaker 4: Thank you, Becky. 00:45:43 Speaker 2: She despises. 00:45:47 Speaker 3: That was three paragraphs of her email said, please do not refer to me as Becky. 00:45:53 Speaker 2: That's fair. Licking a nine volt battery gift or a curse. That's a curse. It's gross. 00:46:03 Speaker 3: Well, so you know, you step into the arena and you just trip, immediately fall flat on your face. Licking a nine volt battery is of course, it's a gift. What a gentle little piece of pain, A little surprise you get when you get zapped. I mean, you know, it's a it's something you can do to just feel alive. It's there aren't many things you can do with a battery outside of power things or you know, slightly injure yourself, and so you have to kind of take advantage of that little light. It's it's a life hack. I'm gonna categorize it as a life hack that is exciting, and we're not doing it often enough. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: It turns out I didn't realize that I've really stumped. I might be out of my league over here right now. I'm realizing that now, all right. 00:46:56 Speaker 3: I mean, who knows what's gonna happen, But that's fine. Uh okay. Number two this is from me, So you know, this is this one. You've got to be extra careful with gif. You a curse adults obsessed with their birthday. 00:47:12 Speaker 4: Again, I'm going to say, curse. 00:47:15 Speaker 2: I hate. I don't mind birthdays in general. It's fine, everybody's got one. But these people who go on and on and people, now, the thing is, it's my birthday week and. 00:47:26 Speaker 4: They're they're kind of kidding and know they're not, And who gives a shit? I hate your birthday? 00:47:36 Speaker 3: Well, okay, an excellent answer, and you're absolutely that's an undeniable truth. This, I mean, it's an absolute curse. After I mean, I don't even know. We need to just draw a line in the sand with age about being obsessed with you. If you're eleven years old and you're excited to have a birthday party, yes, go with God, have the slumber party, do whatever, you know, go to Laser ten, get the pictures taken. But when you're suddenly thirty years old and you're dragging everyone into your birthday and it's all about you and the pictures online, and like you said, like people who are trying to act like it's an ironic choice about their birthday, absolutely not true. They are obsessed with the birthday. 00:48:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, In fact, I'll listen. I have a couple positions on this, you ready. One is and I brought this up on my own podcast, SmartLess, which you can listen to wherever you get your podcast right now. 00:48:33 Speaker 3: But I beg you not to. 00:48:35 Speaker 4: But please do despite what Bridger says, please do. 00:48:40 Speaker 3: So. 00:48:41 Speaker 4: First of all, one year old birthdays like child birthdays, don't invite me. 00:48:44 Speaker 2: To a one year old birthday. He doesn't even know what's going on. And now you're taking now, you're writing time out of my day. I see it as a sign of great disrespect if you invite me to your one year old birthday. Hey, okay, so that's the first thing. 00:49:00 Speaker 3: B Like. 00:49:02 Speaker 2: I have my friend Josh, for instance, and I hate to call him out, but Josh and he knows this, and he'll listen, and he needs to hear this. This is for his own good. And he claims, I'm always trying to teach everybody a lesson, and that's true. 00:49:16 Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with that, because everybody needs to learn lessons. 00:49:20 Speaker 2: He was trying to suggest that we go on this trip to myself and to this other body of ours, to go on this golf trip up somewhere to stay. And he said we should go incept end of August for my birthday. And I said, we should go on a golf trip for your birthday. 00:49:40 Speaker 4: The fuck are you talking about? 00:49:42 Speaker 2: You think you are? 00:49:44 Speaker 4: You're planning? 00:49:45 Speaker 3: What? 00:49:45 Speaker 2: Are you a fucking crown prince. I'll go on the trip if I want to go on the trip, and I certainly don't need to go somewhere else to celebrate your birthday. 00:49:57 Speaker 4: Fucking dare you? 00:50:00 Speaker 3: Josh? I hope your birthday was horrible. 00:50:02 Speaker 2: I hope it was. 00:50:03 Speaker 3: I hope it was just a dark day of reflection on your mistakes and just how bad your life has been up until now. No, I agree completely on that. The one year old birthday thing is just it's a worse adult party. The kid isn't getting any introment out of it, and the adults are getting like a sixty percent version of a real party, and so it's just no fun forever anyone. It's an inconvenience. And on this golf trip thing, you you don't say let's go somewhere on a trip for my birthday. Your friends say let's go on a trip for your birthday, And as a gift, right, Mayne, and even that maybe maybe even that, maybe exactly because on some level that shows that the friends are maybe a little too invested in your life, and it's like this is getting unhealthy. Yeah, I agreed, So okay, so adults obsessed with their birthday. I mean the fact that I even brought it up is maybe mark against me because I think it's just kind of an obvious truth. 00:51:00 Speaker 2: No, but I think it's an area that needs to be addressed because not enough people know. 00:51:05 Speaker 3: It does feel like a snowball that is just getting bigger and bigger and more acceptable socially, and it should be the reverse. We've got to we've got to cut it out. 00:51:17 Speaker 4: Great way to put it. 00:51:19 Speaker 3: Okay, finally, gift or a curse? General stores? 00:51:25 Speaker 2: Oh gift? Why because you can get it. The idea is that you could get you know, anything there. You don't need a category. I like a place, and also I like a place that potentially sells what they will refer to, and they might have a they might even have a section of dry goods. 00:51:45 Speaker 3: Oh I thought a dry good me too. Well, Well, that's an excellent look, that's a very nice little argument. But you are absolutely wrong general stores are a curse, and this is why. This is what a general store has become. In my opinion, the last three general stores I've been in basically have expensive hair products, maybe some nice candles, and I don't know, those chocolate bars that are seventeen dollars. The original general store with the dry goods, maybe you can buy a saddle and some taffy. Of course that's a gift, but now I think it's been repurposed. Is just come by, you know, like an organic brush, and I don't know what are they even selling at these things. 00:52:36 Speaker 4: Listen, I'm gonna throw myself at your mercy. I really was. 00:52:40 Speaker 2: I was thinking of the general store of the of the old school variety, where you can find the dry goods in the taffy and all that, and maybe even some saltwater taffy, right, you know that is that was definitely what I had in mind. So forgive me if you thought that I was referring to one of these new fangled I would never offer that up. That would So I just want you. 00:53:05 Speaker 3: To know that, Okay, I appreciate that. I mean not giving you the point. I'm just gonna let you kind of simmer in your embarrassment crowd. Well you got what did you get here? You got one out of three. Yeah, that's a nice failing grade. And you know you can't do everything correctly. Look, you made some good arguments. You embarrass yourself. You spent maybe more energy than what was necessary. That's fine. Fortunately, this will just be going out to the public. Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. This is called I said no emails people right into I Said no gifts at gmail dot com. They're desperate for answers. Every one of them has got some issue about a gift or gift giving or whatever. Will you help me answer something? 00:53:55 Speaker 4: Okay? 00:53:56 Speaker 3: This one says, okay. Usually they'll address the guests. This person obviously doesn't care about you in anyway. Just as Hello Bridger, my dear sweet elderly grandmother is celebrating the Big eight three. I've spent a little bit of time with her at family gatherings over the years, but since my childhood days we've grown apart. I mean, okay, i'd like to I wonder what's happening there, but she's not getting into this. I still love her very much, but we don't have much in common. That's okay. She's eighty three years old. Her interests include American history and knitting Christmas stockings. I work in digital marketing and cannot tell you how weary I've grown in my attempts to make sense of my career to her? What does one get it? Somewhat estranged yet beloved grandmother in her eighties, fondly Morgan. So this part, I mean, there's a lot left out of this email. I'm just going to say right off the back, a strange grandmother. Something is, something is causing this riff that Morgan is dancing around. 00:54:56 Speaker 2: You knows, the questions are very loaded because she's playing a lot on like we don't get along because she sews the things, and what do I get her? She's like she's the age she's eighty three? Is if that's like she's using that as a weapon. She's weaponizing her own grandmother's age against her. No this, I think that this person's a monster. 00:55:22 Speaker 3: I mean there's the ageism is loud and clear in this. 00:55:26 Speaker 4: A lot of clear. 00:55:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that this Morgan person is a monster and needs to be dealt with swiftly. 00:55:33 Speaker 3: I mean, Morgan, I think that that's a nice, nice clear answer for you, and that aside. I mean, you're complaining about Grandma not knowing what a digital marketer is. I don't know what to I mean, if you want to give her a gift, the first thought I'm getting is job shadow. Grandma comes in as the digital marketing job shadow, an internship that if you want Grandma to learn what digital marketing it is, you've got to get her on the keyboard. 00:56:00 Speaker 2: I'ld like, Morgan, you can bring her Grandma, and Grandma could teach her about manners, okay, the respect your elders and this person who's gone before her. 00:56:11 Speaker 3: And I think that that's perfectly fair. I mean, Grandma didn't get a chance to write into the podcast her side of the story, right, And there's apparently years and years of just bad feelings and misbehaving that this Morgan person has done. So uh, maybe the best gift is to just leave Grandma alone. Clearly she doesn't want you as part of her life anymore. 00:56:37 Speaker 4: She's sending you a message and it's pretty clear she's. 00:56:39 Speaker 3: Tried to move on again and again, and it's just Morgan keeps showing up to apparently just want to talk about digital marketing. 00:56:46 Speaker 4: That's right, and Morgan, let it go, just. 00:56:50 Speaker 3: Let it go, let her live the rest of her life in peace. Well we did an excellent job there, really good. Well, this is the end of the podcast and I now have this Target Get gift card. Do you have any suggestions before I let you go of something I could purchase with the card? 00:57:07 Speaker 2: Well, strangely enough I do. I don't know why. Again, this is not a bit. I keep thinking what you could get. I keep having this vision of you purchasing, ready for this laundry detergent. 00:57:26 Speaker 3: Twenty five dollars worth of laundry detergent. 00:57:28 Speaker 4: Well, it's expensive stuff. 00:57:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's probably about two things of laundry. 00:57:34 Speaker 2: Yeah too, of those big things. And I think like Target is a great place to go and buy to, you know, two big things of laundry detergent. 00:57:42 Speaker 4: And when you. 00:57:43 Speaker 2: Do that, that's it that you could turn this into a really lasting gift that for a few months or whatever you could be every time you put on a clean T shirt or a clean pair of socks, you can think, like, I think we'll learn that for that, you know what I mean. 00:58:02 Speaker 3: I think that's an excellent it'll just be. It'll be a lasting thing that improves my life every time I slide my pants on. I think you will, thank you will, thank you will, And I'll let my boyfriend know to do the same. So we'll just be putting that out into the air. 00:58:18 Speaker 2: Two people now, See now I'm helping two people. You right now, I've made a difference in two people's list. Is the spirit of giving. 00:58:26 Speaker 3: Right there, we can each have our own jug of laundry detergent and the bites will finally end, finally peace in my relationship. This is wonderful. Well, thank you so much for being here. I've just had a wonderful time. 00:58:40 Speaker 2: I've had the wonderful time. Thank you for having me on your program. 00:58:44 Speaker 3: And uh yeah, I've got I'm gonna start researching the best detergent for my money and listener. This is the end of the podcast, as we've been discussing for the last couple of minutes. So I'm going to let you go. I go do whatever you want to do as usual. It's none of my business, and we'll talk again soon. Bye bye. I said. No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said, no gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me. And why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do considering everything I do for you. And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midrol dot com slash ads. 00:59:56 Speaker 1: Line. 00:59:57 Speaker 2: Did you hear. 01:00:00 Speaker 1: Thought? I made myself perfectly clear, But you're I guess to my home? You gotta come to me empty? And I said, no, guess, your presence is presence enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?