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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily where we were Kieran Kulkin super

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Speaker 1: fans going back to down Go Zigbie in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and two doubleheader year. That year for Kieren he had

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Speaker 1: dangerous lives of altar boys. That was good too. Nick

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Speaker 1: Took has no idea what I'm talking about, because he's

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Speaker 1: not worried about any oscars. He's all ball all the time.

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Speaker 1: He has been paying rent at Lucas Oil Stadium all week.

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Speaker 1: How was it, Nick, You are done with the NFL

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Speaker 1: scouting combine?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The only Oscar I knew this week was Oscar

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Speaker 2: style and my stake at Saint Almos. She just had

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Speaker 2: bang nailed it. Yeah. Upwards of thirty thirty five hours

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Speaker 2: spent in Lucas Oil Stadium in the last four days.

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Speaker 2: All beautiful, all magical, all worthwhile and revelatory on some days.

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Speaker 3: For better or for worse.

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Speaker 1: And we all discuss, you know, speaking to Almo is

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Speaker 1: that I feel bad we worked shook herd. He you know,

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Speaker 1: is right, And of course for the website, he's at

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Speaker 1: these press conferences in the morning, then he's at the

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Speaker 1: stadium for you know, six seven hours during the day,

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Speaker 1: and then he tells me He actually literally left his

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Speaker 1: dinner at Saint Elmos tonight to deliver this news for you.

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Speaker 1: It was mostly finished.

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Speaker 2: It's mostly done. It's fine, no guilt here as long

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Speaker 2: as I don't guilt. But that's how much Nick took

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Speaker 2: a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Uh, and we got some big news before we even

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Speaker 1: get to the combine. And I really want to hear

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Speaker 1: about your all combine team, and we'll talk about the

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Speaker 1: last three days of drills. We we got to start

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Speaker 1: with a couple of big items, a veteran news. First

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Speaker 1: of all, closed the circle. It feels like it's a

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Speaker 1: while ago now. But after all that Matthew Stafford talk,

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Speaker 1: in the end, Matthew Stafford decides to stay home with

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. That that came out on Friday.

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Speaker 1: It was reported by our friend Jordan Rodrieg of The

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Speaker 1: Athletic and Diana Rossini that Stafford and Sean McVay at

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Speaker 1: he met at six thirty am Friday morning. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Stafford is getting up at what five point thirty

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Speaker 1: to get over to the facility for a six thirty meeting,

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Speaker 1: forget the leverage in that point, like you've already agreed

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Speaker 1: to stay with the Rams, like, what what do you think?

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Speaker 1: What was the difference here? In the end, he turns

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Speaker 1: down reported good offers from the Raiders, who he seemed

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Speaker 1: more serious with, and the Giants to wind up staying

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Speaker 2: I think it's what we discussed earlier this week, which

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Speaker 2: is at this stage in Matthew Stafford's career, you want

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Speaker 2: to play to pursue championships. You want at least your

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Speaker 2: best shot of team success. You don't want to spend

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Speaker 2: your last year or two or three years on a

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Speaker 2: bad football team and leave the NFL with a sour

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Speaker 2: taste in your mouth because it ended poorly. Asked Joe Thomas,

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Speaker 2: how that went not great? So I think that this

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Speaker 2: was his best opportunity to do so. Yes, he could

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Speaker 2: help the Raiders get out of the cellar, out of

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Speaker 2: the situation they're in to a certain degree. You make

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Speaker 2: some additions around him, you can get a little bit

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Speaker 2: of Commander's action going same thing with the Giants.

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Speaker 3: But ultimately he lives in LA. I started to get.

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers vibes when it was the Chargers move from

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Speaker 2: and would take that fancy van up North.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to leave La.

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Speaker 2: He's got a beautiful situation there with a team he's

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Speaker 2: known well in an offense that fits in. It made

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Speaker 2: a ton of sense, and he got most of the

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Speaker 2: money in the leverage play. I think that he's all

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Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I'm really interested. So yeah, when we left off and

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Speaker 1: and that's what happened. I find it very interesting we

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Speaker 1: have not heard the financials on this deal that in fact,

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Speaker 1: our guy Ian Rappaport says it won't exactly be all

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Speaker 1: finished for the next couple of weeks. Generally, when you

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Speaker 1: don't hear the numbers, it is not good for the

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Speaker 1: They it's not they don't really care if it's out

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Speaker 1: know that Matthew Stafford reportedly was offered ninety to one

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Speaker 1: actually sounds about right for Matthew Stafford where he's at.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll be guaranteed money into a

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Speaker 1: kind of had to go through this process and get

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Speaker 3: And and oh god, they're going to call my bluff.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, Well maybe it's not even a bluff so

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Speaker 1: much as like I thought, maybe i'd get sixty sixty

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Speaker 1: and I didn't quite get that, or I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm being generous and thinking about just the human side

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Speaker 1: of it all, like maybe you don't know how you're

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Speaker 1: really gonna respond. Maybe you really do think this is bs.

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Speaker 1: They're not paying me the right salary, it's not fair.

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Speaker 1: But then you have to go through the process and

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Speaker 1: you get to the end and that's when you can

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Speaker 1: really know, Wait, I actually don't want to do this,

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Speaker 1: and oh, this is unfortunate. The Rams aren't really making

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Speaker 1: it work financially like I was hoping. But Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: has been cool this whole time. We've talked the whole time,

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Speaker 1: and that's more important to me.

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Speaker 2: And the alternative is much worse, at least from a

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Speaker 2: sways him towards staying with what he knows, even if

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good call. I'm now thinking back to

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Speaker 1: that Fits and Wit podcast check that out and everything

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Speaker 1: that McVeigh said on that. It was almost like a

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Speaker 1: recruiting session for McVeigh to Matthew Staffer, and he even

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Speaker 1: vocalized that all the mistakes he made and the Jared

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Speaker 1: who knows, maybe that podcast appearance helped keep Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, big swing and miss tom Brady's over two

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Speaker 1: that would have gotten the deal done. So apparently that

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Speaker 1: would have been the trade terms, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: On the surface, though, a contract of a hund million

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Speaker 2: dollars over two years plus the second round pick for

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Speaker 2: a guy who is north of thirty five is a lot,

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Speaker 1: Think one of the reasons that the Rams didn't extend

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Speaker 1: further was unsaid in this entire talk about Stafford was

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Speaker 1: he's coming off his worst season as a Ram.

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Speaker 3: Or is most inconsistent. At least, he.

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Speaker 1: Just wasn't as consistent. He was probably playing through injuries.

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Speaker 1: And I think people remember the big pop up games

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Speaker 1: best when it matters most. That's worth a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: But there were a lot of you know, one to

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Speaker 1: there was a lot more of those games this year

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Speaker 1: to the football gods that they were not going to

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Speaker 1: have Aaron Rodgers as the Rams quarterback in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: They could live without Stafford, but they couldn't live with Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I am very happy about this move. Let's get to

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Speaker 1: the big trade. The surprising move over the weekend. Deebo

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Speaker 1: Samuel is a Washington commander Nick Schuck. They only gave

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Speaker 1: going to adjust his contract. He's really got one year

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Speaker 1: left on a pretty sizable contract that the forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers are eating a ton of dead money to make

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Speaker 1: this move. Essentially, they're looking to do some addition by

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Speaker 1: and the Commanders at a really interesting piece for a

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Speaker 1: very low price in terms of the trade haul the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and honestly, I like the Niners have been kind

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Speaker 2: these pieces they have to do with the Chiefs kind

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Speaker 2: of do, which is, let guys Walker move guys seventeen

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Speaker 2: point four million cap number. I believe with Washington. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's affordable for them. They needed a receiver opposite term

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Speaker 2: McLaurin to take this offense to the next level. I

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Speaker 2: news came down, and you heard a bit of like

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Speaker 2: fans that were there, just because on the surface a

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Speaker 2: year ago, if you had said the Niners are trading

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Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel to the Commanders, it would have blown your mind.

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Speaker 2: Still surprising, Yeah, and it's interesting to see how this

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Speaker 3: I wasn't. Still not one hundred percent certain. I like

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Speaker 2: The idea of Jaden Daniels haveing another option and then

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Speaker 2: seeing what Cliff Kingsbury can do with him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there's only three wide receivers on the rosters.

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Speaker 1: Luke McCaffrey is number three, Deebo's number two, Terry mclaurin's

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Speaker 1: number one. They need to add another another one or

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Speaker 1: two in free agency, in the draft, and they will.

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Speaker 1: I think the fit's good because it's the yards after

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Speaker 1: catch offense. He's very different than McLaurin. You're not asking

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Speaker 1: asking him to be a two. When all is said

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Speaker 1: and done, he is Deebo Samuel. I have my doubts

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Speaker 1: that he's the same guy that he used to be.

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Speaker 1: His success rate on catches for the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: He's not consistent. You he started to look old. He's

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Speaker 1: taken a lot of beating. But you mentioned the cap hit.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a one year deal. And this is

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Speaker 1: what can happen when you have a lot of cap space.

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Speaker 1: You know how much cap space they still have nick after.

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Speaker 3: They had they had somewhere in the sixties prior to this.

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Speaker 1: They still still have sixty because they moved some around

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Speaker 1: even before it. They have sixty four million dollars after

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys who tested very well. I picked

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Speaker 2: Quinhawn Judkins as one of my running backs because of

436
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 2: how it looked, how good he looked in the passing game.

437
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 2: He's like an artist when it comes to running routes.

438
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Speaker 1: As a point, one of the two Ohio state running

439
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,040
Speaker 1: backs that we'll get taken top fifty, I would say.

440
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: It, and we did not see Trevion Henderson in a comparison.

441
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: Beyond that, Travion didn't do the drills, Judkins did and

442
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 2: he looked fantastic in those areas. He also was largely

443
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: solid in the running drills save for the deuce daily

444
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: drill where he got a little caught in the bag.

445
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 2: So he looked complete. Trevor etn. I think he just

446
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: looks like a guy who is a pro. You know

447
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 2: his lineage, you know, having an older brother in the league,

448
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 2: coming from Georgia, He's been prepared accordingly, and I thought

449
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: he handled the drills well.

450
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Speaker 3: Testing landed him.

451
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: In the Elite category as well at the Next Gen

452
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: Stats Athletics as a score of ninety, so complete picture

453
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 2: there as well. And then we also had bash Ol

454
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 2: Tutin from Virginia Tech, a name that people probably don't know.

455
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: I was largely unfamiliar because I'm not a Hoky fan

456
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: that you know myself, not a big acc football guy.

457
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 2: But he came out there and blew the doors off

458
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: of the testing four three to two second forty jump,

459
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 2: forty and a half inches in the vert ten foot

460
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: ten broad jump. His numbers were crazy. And then he

461
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: went out there and had solid work on the field

462
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 2: as well. So those were my top three. I also

463
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: liked Dylan Sampson from Tennessee kind of looks like the pro.

464
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: Jaden Blue put down a super fast forty time as well,

465
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: the running back from Texas, and Dovid Edwards tested well.

466
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Speaker 2: Some things in the drills I didn't like that much.

467
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: Kind of lended itself to how he kind of lost

468
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Speaker 2: his job at Michigan this past year. But we'll see

469
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Speaker 2: what happens because gms and scouts loved the testing results.

470
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: When when that when you see the numbers, you think

471
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Speaker 2: we can make something out of that.

472
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Speaker 1: Guy.

473
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Speaker 2: R J.

474
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Speaker 3: Harvey another running back from use there.

475
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many. They literally were all running for

476
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: four for four.

477
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Speaker 2: To four two. Yeah, it was farious thing. They showed

478
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: the board and it was just like it was just

479
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 2: seconds different.

480
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: And they're huge too. Like you went through all these

481
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: guys and I and I would never push back on

482
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: like where's my guy? And maybe he didn't do the drills?

483
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: Actually a Marion Hampton, he did not do did he

484
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Speaker 1: do the drills? He did?

485
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Speaker 2: He tested like crazy and he's got a lot of juice,

486
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: a lot of buzz for those who are paying attention

487
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Speaker 2: to that.

488
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Speaker 3: I didn't like his workout.

489
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,239
Speaker 2: I thought his workout was just a little sloppy in

490
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: some of the drills that he did. That's things that

491
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: can be fixed. And again gms and scouts get on

492
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 2: board with he has the physical traits, we can fix

493
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 2: the rest of that and code good coaching can So

494
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't overlook him just in picking all combine team

495
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: performance here the drills didn't stack up for.

496
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Speaker 1: Me and did in Travion Henderson, I believe ran the forty,

497
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: but he didn't do anything. That's another big boy and

498
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: that what I mean. Okay, Hampton didn't like look great

499
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Speaker 1: in the drills, but he finishes forty three out of

500
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: about nineteen hundred running backs and relative athletics score. He

501
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: is a five eleven, two hundred and twenty one pound

502
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: man who who can run a low four to four.

503
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: It's just like man. This running back class is one

504
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: of the best of the last five or six years,

505
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: maybe the best since that Joe Mixon, Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin

506
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: Cook class. So it's going to be really exciting to

507
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: see where these guys go. A lot of them will

508
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: go in the top sixty picks, which is new for

509
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: running backs.

510
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: All right, and I'll take you this too before we

511
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: move on to the next position group. With Tuton, we're

512
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: on the street. He's gaining some serious attention. So keep

513
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: his name on your radar as somebody who goes earlier

514
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: than expected. Not saying he's the first round pick or

515
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: anything like that, but just when his name flashes in April,

516
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: don't be surprised if it's earlier than you anticipated.

517
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Speaker 1: He blew up the combine. It's funny that Etm the second,

518
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: the second brother, who was definitely helped by his combine performance,

519
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: that that helped Travis rock rocket up the boards. All right,

520
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go to the maybe the more disappointing

521
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: part of the weekend, and we don't have to focus

522
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: on the negative. But I guess let's let's combine them together.

523
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: We can just talk quarterbacks and wide receivers and have

524
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: a conversation there. I know a lot of the certainly

525
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks didn't throw. I know you weren't thrilled

526
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: with the wide receiver drills. Though, give me, give me

527
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: the guys. Let's start with the positive that that you

528
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: did enjoy watching from those two groups.

529
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: So cam Orden Shaud or Shan Sanders did not participate,

530
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: they watched. So it left an opportunity for a lot

531
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: of guys who had questions to answer to come out

532
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 2: there and try to answer those questions. And none of

533
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: them really did. Nobody put together a complete performance. And

534
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: maybe my evaluation is a little bit skewed because it

535
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: wasn't that long ago that I was sitting in basically

536
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: the same seat in that stadium watching CJ. Stroud put

537
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: together a remarkable performance throwing on air. These guys just

538
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: weren't consistent throughout the different routes. Some guys were good

539
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: on short routes like Jalen Milroe, great on running the

540
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: whip right, like tossing the ball to a route where

541
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: a receiver runs in and cuts back out toward the sideline.

542
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: Accurate there, Accurate on the slants. Didn't once the ball

543
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: moved downfield, it was hit or missed because the deep

544
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: corner he sails like three over the guy's head. The

545
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: sale route, he's missing guys, but receivers are also not

546
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: running routes to the right spot, so it was a

547
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 2: difficult evaluation. He looks good in the deep ball and

548
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: we knew he has that arm, but the dig for example,

549
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: doesn't trust like drops back, hits the back of his drop,

550
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: steps up and wants to throw before the receiver is

551
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: starting to hit his brake, and you could tell he

552
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: struggled with that. Will Howard was all over the place,

553
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: not surprised, but was all over the place. Kyle McCord

554
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: kind of good, but low ceiling quinn Ewers I don't

555
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: know what's going on with his arm, but the oh

556
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: my god, a lack of velocity seth hen again from Memphis.

557
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: Often the broadcast was trying to give Quinn. Yeah, I'm

558
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: telling you, not good.

559
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 3: It wasn't good. I'm sorry. I'm sitting there and it

560
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: wasn't good.

561
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: Inaccurate, not a sirking throw, not good, not a good

562
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: just lack of velocity. The whole thing, Hen again from

563
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: Memphis was like lofting balls early but then showed some

564
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: arm strength downfield later. Just a very weird group overall,

565
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: where Jackson Dart had some moments where I'm like, I

566
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: can see it, then the other moments where he missed guys.

567
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: Tyler Schuck started strong, didn't finish as strongly as I

568
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: would like him too, but I could see the vision there.

569
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: He's a natural thrower, the kid from Brosmer Max Brosmer.

570
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 2: I love his delivery, very short, compact, whip like, but

571
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: missed some throws later in there. But again the receivers

572
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: were dropping passes left and right. They weren't running the

573
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: best routes. There was no separation in that group either,

574
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: so it was really tough to have valued or at

575
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: least give positive marks to a lot of guys.

576
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the takeaway is just no orderback stamped themselves.

577
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: You know who was the most consistent, Greg Brady Cook

578
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: from Missouri.

579
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: That's who made my team.

580
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not gonna get drafted. I Jackson Dart, Like

581
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: there's a whole Jackson Dart mafia out there. I'm not

582
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: totally sure why. Just whatever he getting, he's getting the

583
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts comp which is not a bad comp to

584
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: have for a physically talented but somewhat limited guy that

585
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: that people believe in, that will improve as a pro.

586
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for him to have a rocket

587
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: ship past where Jalen Hurts got drafted, which is you know,

588
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: late second, I don't think it's happened. Yeah, a couple

589
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: other quick quarterback things before you know, we go to

590
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: the receivers. Is just I think consensus finally caught up

591
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: to how the media was talking about it. Was like

592
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: how the teams all along probably were re viewing it,

593
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: which is Shudry Sanders is not looked at I think

594
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: as like a close prospect to cam Ward that I

595
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: think conventional wisdom is going to be. There's a decent

596
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: chance cam Wards still goes number one, whether it's to

597
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: the Titans or a team trading up, and that he

598
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: is not going to fall, you know, past the first

599
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: couple of picks, because he's a really intriguing quarterback prospect

600
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: and that Sugar Sanders is just not at that level

601
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: as a quarterback prospect. That and that's fine, Like he

602
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: still might go top ten, he might go in the

603
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: first round, he might go top twenty, but that there's

604
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: there's a gap. I think most teams view there as

605
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: a gap, and it just there is a logical grap

606
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: And then the other funny note I thought was a

607
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: Jalen Milro's hand size grew significantly between the Senior Bowl

608
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: and the NFL scouting combine, like almost like half of

609
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: I think it was like three ace of an inch

610
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: or something that like it grew, I don't know, just

611
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: doing stretching exercise. It just shows how silly this whole thing.

612
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: I think he had sub nine inch hands at the

613
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, which is like smaller than Jared Goff, which

614
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: he's sort of the benchmark of like quite quite small hands.

615
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: And his hands grew quite a bit, which really made

616
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: me laugh. Give me, give me a couple of wide

617
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: receivers that stood out to you the best, because we

618
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: did have while we didn't have Tech McMillan, who might

619
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: be the favorite to be the first wide receiver off

620
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: the board. He's from Arizona, big, strong looking, number one

621
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: type of receiver. There's some word that he might not

622
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: even run at his pro day, which is like, that's interesting.

623
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: We did have more of the first round type of

624
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: receivers run and work out. Who were your favorites? Doesn't

625
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: have to be from the first round category.

626
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't get a Mecca, a Buca either, and

627
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: so that kind of left us with a class that

628
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: like the next couple of guys headlining it are like

629
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: Luther Burden from Missouri, an unused player at Missouri who

630
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: is a playmaker, but they had a revolving dor at quarterback.

631
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: And you know, like I mentioned.

632
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: Cook, but Cook got hurt during the season, so it

633
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: was an inconsistent situation for him and his a struggle

634
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: for him to produce. I felt as if he kind of,

635
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: like when I talked running backs, looked like a pro,

636
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: Like he he ran the gauntlet really really smooth, like

637
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: tight to the line, catches were effortless, very natural.

638
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: The little tracers they have on Network, it was beautiful

639
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: when you were watching. When you were watching him, he

640
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: does look like a pro Luther Burden from My Man knows.

641
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: How to color inside the lines, and he certainly did

642
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: at the combine. He didn't do the full battery of testing,

643
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: but he threw it down a four four, one of

644
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: the forty that basically checks the box for him.

645
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: So he's on my list.

646
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: And then it got kind of murky because a lot

647
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: of these guys who ran well didn't participate in the drills,

648
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: like Matthew Golden from Texas, or guys who did run

649
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: well were very up and down, like Jalen Lane for

650
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech, Jalen Noel from Iowa State.

651
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: So I got caught in this in between.

652
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Ground where I was like, I kind of have to

653
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 2: lean toward guys who tested good, like well enough and

654
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: looked consistent enough.

655
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: I've got a candidate for you. Go ahead, how about

656
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Newell's college teammate from Iowa State, Jaden Higgins.

657
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: Yes, now he's on my Honorable mentions list. He was

658
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: kissed to making the top three.

659
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: Yes, when they showed the Nicocollins comp. I was in six'

660
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: four two fourteen check some, boxes very good times for his,

661
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: size you, know a very good athletics, score looks pretty

662
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: good in the. Drills to my, eye that to me

663
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: is a guy with a decent, floor but like A

664
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: Nico collins maybe has a nice. Ceiling someone viewed as, like,

665
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: YEAH i don't, know maybe he's a, second maybe he's a.

666
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: Third we'll see. That that sort of talent to me

667
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: seems like a very intriguing second round type of.

668
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: Player, Yeah and that's WHY i end up with the honorable,

669
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: mentions just because WHEN i do this AND i go

670
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: back through my notes like, that in some, years guys

671
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: pop AND i know halfway through the, drills after looking at,

672
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: Testing i'm, like that guy's gonna be on the. Team

673
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: we didn't have those separation guys this year, necessarily so

674
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: we had to kind of dig. Deeper So jim RAY,

675
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: dk the receiver From, florida he made my squad for

676
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: the same reason That Isaac tislaw From arkansas, did which

677
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: is they tested well and they had the most consistent

678
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: workouts to Where i'm watching them move And i'm, Thinking,

679
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: OKAY i can see at the next. LEVEL i can

680
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: see this guy being a producer of. Sorts they just

681
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: kind of kept popping up over and over. Again they'd

682
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: make a nice grab, here they'd run this route, well

683
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: they'd run this drill. Well they never looked. Overwhelmed but

684
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: the ceiling in general with this class was just lower

685
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: because nobody popped like in past years like A CD

686
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: lamb for, example or you, know you could run a Tank.

687
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: Dell there's no Tank dell in this group that performed

688
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: in these. Workouts interress THAT i was taken aback by

689
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: watching them run their routes this time. Around so a

690
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: lot of similar, guys AND i think if you're in

691
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: the market for a, receiver if you're not in a

692
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: position to take A teed, McMillan or in a mecca

693
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: a buka who's just going to live in the slot

694
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: in THE nfl, abuka then you're in a tough spot

695
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: where you can wait and hope for the.

696
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: Best for some of these, guys, well you Mentioned Matthew

697
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 1: golden From. Texas he ran a four to, nine one

698
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: of the fastest times ever for a guy who's over

699
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety, pounds which is you, know a

700
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: self selecting cutoff because he's he's about that, size but

701
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: he's a guy with that sort of. Speed wouldn't be

702
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: shocking if he snuck into the first round Like Xavier

703
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: worthy a year, ago because he has pretty good tape

704
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: in production as a college player, too he was already

705
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: maybe in that Group Jalen noel who you, mentioned the top,

706
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: broad the top. Vert so certainly people who help, themselves

707
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: but maybe not an amazing you, know wide receiver. CLASS

708
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: i still Like Tesz, johnson who happens to be under

709
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty pounds and ran a slow forty

710
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: but he had insane three cone and insane shuttle, time

711
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: so all in the eye of the. Beholder WHEN i watched,

712
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: HIM i, thought, like that guy is A rams. TYPE

713
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: i could absolutely see him because they love the three,

714
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: cone they love the. Shuttle they don't they don't mind a.

715
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: Little, guys they could live between zero and twelve, yards

716
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: win with instant, separation and then run after the.

717
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: Catch, yes he could be like a better version of

718
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: two two at, Well so who. Knows let's wrap. UP

719
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: i guess the skill position. Groups we didn't talk tight ends.

720
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: Yet Now Friday night seems so long. Ago to me

721
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: WHEN i Watched Mason, taylor he just looks so. Clean

722
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: he just looks like the guy that you're. LIKE i

723
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be An All, pro

724
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: but he will be in the league eight or nine.

725
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: Years did he make Your All combine?

726
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 3: Team he's an honorable?

727
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: Mention, okay now that this was a couple of days,

728
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: AGO i can't remember if it was because the testing

729
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: wasn't quite, there if it just didn't pop up that

730
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: thing was like, fine, yeah BECAUSE i think his workout

731
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: was very. Solid he looked very much like a pro ready,

732
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: guy so it had to be ethic testing with. Him

733
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: now That i'm thinking back about, it my top two,

734
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: guys this was actually. TOUGH i think there's a lot

735
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: of talent in this tight end. Class there's a lot

736
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: of guys that are similarly affected that might look like different.

737
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: Molds Like Harold fannin From Bowling green reminds me Of

738
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: Isaiah likely and had some really nice moments in his,

739
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: workout AND i think he put.

740
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: Together a good overall.

741
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 2: DAY. Cj duprey From alabama looks like a pro ready

742
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: tight end who just does everything pretty. Well jake Brining

743
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: stole From clemson kept putting together good reps down the

744
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: field during the. Drills so we got a lot of

745
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: those types of, Guys but the guys that ended up

746
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: on top of my list Were Terrence ferguson From, oregon

747
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: who just looks like a, smooth silky athlete at tight,

748
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: end the modern tight end kind of exemplified in this.

749
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: A little bit of a late riser Potentially let's.

750
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: And then we also Had Joshua simon From South, carolina

751
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: who IS i think just gonna be, Fantastic like he

752
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: just he's, big he's a, unit and he moves, well

753
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: he's not, slow he's super, athletic and throughout his WORKOUT

754
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: i was just, like, damn this is a good, Player

755
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: like this is the modern tight end who's going to

756
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: come into THE nfl and make a difference for the right.

757
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: TEAM i don't know IF i would call him like

758
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: a like maybe A Gerald everett who was always a

759
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: super athletic but inconsistent tight, end but a guy WHO

760
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: i think just has a very high ceiling in the right.

761
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: Situation Jerald everetts still catching them. CHECKS i, MEAN i, know,

762
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: yes he's still getting it. Done so most of these

763
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: guys would take that career even if that doesn't get you.

764
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: Through it's funny now as we're going finishing the combine,

765
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: HERE i kind of am realizing why people are going

766
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: wild for this. Class and granted we saw more people

767
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: sit out the combine than ever, well but here's, why

768
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: because here are the classes that are. Awesome the running

769
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: back class is. Awesome it's just not as sexy a

770
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: position as it used to, be even though it should.

771
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Be the tight end class is. Awesome tackle class had

772
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: like fourteen more people invited to the combine than a year,

773
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: ago so it's very deep at like defensive, tackle.

774
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 3: And the top guys didn't really. Participate mid round.

775
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: Guards it's very deep like interior, line, yes running, back tight.

776
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: End so it's a meat and potatoes type of. Draft

777
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: And i'm glad you Mentioned Harold. Fannon if you guys

778
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast they did With Nate, tice really

779
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: a fascinating player That i've gone to school on over

780
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: the lot over the weekend and started watching, him AND

781
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: i think this was a big weekend for him because

782
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: people just weren't sure if he was going to be

783
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: athletic or, not and he's a big, dude and he tested,

784
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: well like he had a good enough, forty very good,

785
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: forty and very good in the in the three cone

786
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: and the short, shuttle and SO i think he's someone's, Like,

787
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: okay he passes the benchmarks of what we want for

788
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: AN nfl tight, end and now he could be a

789
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: guy where, man a lot of these tight ends are

790
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: going to GO i think in round two and certainly

791
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: round three And, Hill.

792
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah we're going to see a number of.

793
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: Them and he would have made my team if his

794
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: on field workout was just a little bit more. Consistent

795
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: there were moments WHERE i was, like LIKE i went

796
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: into it being like every once in a, WHILE i

797
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: see a guy Where i'm, Like, GOD i really hope

798
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: you crushed this BECAUSE i want to put you on

799
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: the team BECAUSE i see your.

800
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: Potential and he's one of those.

801
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: Guys it's just that other guys usurped him with their

802
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: on field.

803
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Performance, Okay, well let's wrap up the offense with the

804
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: guys that did the workouts On. Sunday your last day

805
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: was about the big boys the offensive line who cut your.

806
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: Eye my last day is the best day because this

807
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: is my. Wheelhouse, baby all about the, trenches and there

808
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: is a lot of talent to work, with especially in

809
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: the interior offensive. Line my center Is Jared wilson From.

810
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: Georgia he is an athletic. Freak ninety nine the highest

811
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: score you can get in next GEN stas athleticism score

812
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: based on how he tested four eight four. Forty the

813
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: only interior lineman for a second, no the only interior

814
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: lineman to break twenty one miles per. Hour third fastest

815
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: speed by an offensive lineman top speed twenty one point

816
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: zero four miles per over the last three. Years so

817
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: he started hot, right and then he goes post thirty

818
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: two inch vert nine to four broad, jump did it

819
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: all at three hundred and ten.

820
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 3: Pounds and then he.

821
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: Goes on the field and looks exactly the, Part like

822
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: this is a guy that you could plug into like

823
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: An eagles run scheme or another scheme LIKE i think

824
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: about back four or five years, ago The stefanski wide

825
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: zone scheme In, minnesota where like you need a guy

826
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: to get to second level and make a consistent impact

827
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: and do it with athleticism and strength and. Power this

828
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: is the, Guy this is the center in the. DRAFT

829
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: i was totally impressed by. Him every rep was. Good

830
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: there's a ton of burst in spring in his. Steps

831
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: he has wildly, light light, feet like featherweight. Feet so

832
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: taken aback by how good he. Was so that's my.

833
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: CENTER i should have started with offensive linemen because it

834
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: just brings out the you, know the shine In shooky's.

835
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: Eyes oh you, know we should have opened with, this all,

836
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: right go with your second.

837
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: One sunday is the best day because it's the shortest

838
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: and it's my favorite position. Group then we go to.

839
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: GUARD a lot of talent at. Guard i'm telling, you

840
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: interior offensive, line there's a ton of value. HERE i

841
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: ACTUALLY i had a really hard time picking between these.

842
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: Guys gray's abel came in with a lot of pop

843
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: from The Senior. Bowl didn't quite look as consistent AS

844
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: i want him to be tested, well but didn't quite

845
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: look as consistent on the, Field so he ends up

846
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: in the honorable.

847
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: Mentions joshua six inch, vertical by the, way, yes like

848
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: a guard is kind of a.

849
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: Freak there's some things missing from his. Game but the

850
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: WAY i characterized it to the guy sitting in the

851
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: suite with me today was that you put him in

852
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: a phone booth he's winning that battle every. Time it's

853
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: just that some of the other situations made Like North Dakota,

854
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: state he ended up playing some tackle like it's hard

855
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: to figure out exactly where he's gona. Play he's gonna

856
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: be the interior. Lineman he could be a, center but

857
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: you put him in that phone. Booth he's going to

858
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: win as a bit of a brawler who's very. Agile Joshua,

859
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: gray the guard From Oregon, state moves phenomenally. WELL i

860
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: think he's going to have a great career ahead of

861
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: him as. WELL i also Realized georgia was freaking loaded

862
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: at offensive line BECAUSE i had a bunch Of georgia

863
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: guys end up in the honorable mentions or on this.

864
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: List we Had Dylan Fairchild Xavier trusts both on my honorable,

865
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: mentions and THEN i also Picked Tate, ratledge.

866
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 3: The guard From.

867
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: Georgia who you to talk about a guy who can

868
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 2: Move and maybe you Say i'm over valuing, movement but guess,

869
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: what in TODAY'S, nfl you can't just be a brawler

870
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: at the first. Level you got to get to the

871
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: second level or really make a difference in the run.

872
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: Game go look at The eagles go look At Saquon.

873
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: Barkley that's why they. Succeeded And Tate ratledge is that

874
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 2: guy at. Guard he is just so. Swift he's six,' six,

875
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: he's huge and yet. He moves he's three hundred, eight

876
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 2: pounds but he moves like he weighs two eighty and

877
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: he put on a show in. The testing four nine

878
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: seven forty thirty two, inch jump nine to five broad

879
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: best three cone times seven point three. Eight seconds three

880
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: cone is where teams like to get their guards, moving.

881
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: Quick agile he did a. Trap drill it was a

882
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: short pool is what they call IT.

883
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 3: On tv but it's. A trap you're mimicking.

884
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: A trap talk to me.

885
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 3: And a lot of.

886
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: These, guys basically the essential thing you want to do

887
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: on a trap is your first step, is quick, it's

888
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: backward and you swing open the hit because what you

889
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: have to do is drive right behind the center's rear

890
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: end and get through the hole before the running back runs.

891
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: You over if you can't get through, the hole you

892
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: can't be, a guard and you can't run, a trap and

893
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: you can't. Play, football essentially he can not only, do

894
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: it he was the only guy in the entire GROUP

895
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: that i saw who was so used to doing it

896
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: and had such light feet that he did this shuffle

897
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: that was like, a blur like he'd done this reped thousands.

898
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: Of times another guy struggle with, this STUFF and i,

899
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: was like, oh MAN like i felt a tingle. INSIDE

900
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: me i was.

901
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: Just like this.

902
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: IS incredible i love. This guy and then he crushed

903
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: the rest of the. DRILL too i wrote a lot

904
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: about him in The l. Combine team he's not, a

905
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: brute he's not gonna win with, pure force but he's

906
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: gonna win with.

907
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: His FEET so i liked him. A.

908
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Lot okay that's a great shout out. BIG day i

909
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: think as we get closer to, the draft people, are,

910
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: realizing yeah there's not a premiere left, tackle prospect but

911
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of potential in. This class but actually

912
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: the overall class is pretty deep and. Pretty strong it's

913
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: just not amazing in the top five. Or ten and,

914
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: Who Knows aman membu MIGHT be. Ol one after. The

915
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: day he had a, very, fat ten very. Fast forty

916
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: he's twenty. Years old he finished twenty sixth out of

917
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred and seventy nine qualifiers. At tackle he. Moves

918
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: well people questioning whether he'd go, to guard, but, like

919
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: yeah there's. A chance there's a chance he could go

920
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: in the top ten in, THIS draft i think because

921
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: Whether it's Tim Or. Will Campbell will campbell had a,

922
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: good workout but the short arms were were a little

923
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: shorter even than people were expecting thirty two and, five eighths,

924
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: which is, you know it depends on how much you care.

925
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: About that but he had a great. Workout Too will campbell's.

926
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: So interesting those, two, guys though did not make.

927
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: YOUR team i have things to Say because membu did make.

928
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 2: My team first off, At tackle campbell knicks, honorable mention

929
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: and we'll Start With. MEMBOO membo i don't know if

930
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: you watched the broadcast with the Sound, on greg but

931
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: his first forty he screamed through the Entire forty i'm.

932
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Not, kidding yeah there was a guy like that yesterday

933
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: who yelped like. A seal yes, he, Ran, yes.

934
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: Oh, keep going? Keep going what?

935
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: Is happening he was ah the whole way through and

936
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: we're all. Like Wow and eric, at, home PROUD maszoograd

937
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: i look across the way to go is how they

938
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: teach You. In columbia eric and then we look up

939
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: at the board and we see his forty times four to,

940
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: nine one and it, was, like well it justified. The

941
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: sound he had an. Excellent drill he was another guy

942
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: very light on his feet considering, his size, very fluid.

943
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: Very Comfortable and i'm curious about the PROJECTION because i

944
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: think about a Guy Like, mkai beckon not the, same

945
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Player but makai cakes into garb With the eagles this

946
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: year and thrives for the most part right and kind

947
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: of replaces the Void That cam jergens left and he

948
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: had to slide over the center and they don't miss.

949
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: A beat and maybe that's what some people. ARE thinking

950
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: i think there's some other comps that are outside of

951
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: that with him moving, to GUARD but i could see

952
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: him playing tackle and. Being fine doesn't define as a

953
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: traditional top left tackle, prospect NECESSARILY but i see it

954
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: in the physical traits and. Potential there the other guy

955
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: that ended up There Was josh connolly because of the

956
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: way he went through, his drills testing solid eighty five

957
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: athletics in, the score but not as GOOD for i just.

958
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: Like potential first round pick. Another ONE as i.

959
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: WATCHED him i wrote in my notes he's.

960
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: A stud, IN fact i texted a Friend in oregon

961
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: grad who, we KNOW and i was, Just like connlee's.

962
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: A stud and he goes to go back and Watch

963
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: The big ten title game tape and you'll see, It

964
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: TOO and i, Was like i've alread.

965
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: WATCHED it i know what you're. Talking about but let's

966
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: Talk about Campbell Because WILL.

967
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: Campbell lsu potential top. FIVE pick i think.

968
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: He was the number one tackle on a lot of

969
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: people's boards going. Into this he goes to the podium

970
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: yesterday and all the questions are about, arm length like you,

971
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: just referenced and your arms are too short to? Play

972
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: tackle what do? You think and he was pretty adamant

973
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: that he's going to play tackle the.

974
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: Next level improve.

975
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: Everybody wrong he's been hearing it for years and he's ready,

976
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: to do, you know find the same success they HAD.

977
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: At lsu i'm telling, you this he'll he could be

978
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: IN the nfl and be a, fine tackle but he's

979
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: got the potential to be an all pro guard because

980
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: he wins with, his feet not with. His arms, you

981
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: know upper body strengthen his arms because his arms. Are

982
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: short you could even see it in the drills there

983
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 2: just wasn't a lot to force, up there but those

984
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: feet are smooth, as butter and their. Feather light like

985
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: a lot of these, other guys he had some of

986
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 2: the best feet of any lineman in this. ENTIRE group

987
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: i could see him being a phenomenal guard for a,

988
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: long time as opposed to being a decent to slightly

989
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: better tackle IN. THE nfl i, JUST wish i just

990
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: wish that somebody would draft him, and say you are

991
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: going to be. A guard he might be top five

992
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: guard IN the nfl for a.

993
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: Long, Time Look zach Martin And Elijah vera tucker are.

994
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: TOO recent i Thought of martin.

995
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: Of guys who got taken and teams weren't sure where they,

996
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: would play and they got a little test drive outside

997
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: and there they were. Better, Inside obviously martin is the.

998
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: Ultimate Example quintin nelson never even really got tried at,

999
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: left tackle but he was a guy that got moved

1000
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: Inside in both, those Guys certainly martin And Maybe quintin

1001
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: nelson will Be in canton. One day let's wrap up with.

1002
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: The DB's they went Back. On Friday maxwell harrison has

1003
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: the the FASTEST time i believe of anyone at the

1004
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: combine This year, kentucky cornerback and by all accounts was

1005
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: smooth in the. Drills too so a nice a nice

1006
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: combine for, undersized cornerback but one that has a chance

1007
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: to get taken maybe in the first round and certainly

1008
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: in the first, you know forty to.

1009
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: Fifty, picks yeah it kind of feels Like The quinnion

1010
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: mitchell story from, last year where a team banks on

1011
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: explosiveness and athletic potential and then, you know hopes the

1012
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: rest of it's a little bit cleaner in terms. Of

1013
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: technique he had a good he had, good, workout obviously

1014
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: was fantastic in, the testing, smooth confidence, made hands catches

1015
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: inside and outside, the frame and in a group that

1016
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: doesn't really have the top tier corners that we saw in,

1017
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: previous years even, last year, you know With A Terry

1018
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: on Arnold and mitchell and, you Know A cooper degene

1019
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: and stuff.

1020
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: LIKE that i think he's going to be the.

1021
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: First one off the board at the position and he

1022
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: makes the team from there a little bit harder to

1023
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: separate some of these guys kind of like, the receivers

1024
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: probably a little bit more, talent overall but kind of

1025
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: like the receivers and so brading.

1026
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: THESE guys I had Robert longer Beam.

1027
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: From rutgers it should have Been as, thomas's spot but

1028
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: he didn't test so incomplete picture there that kind of

1029
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: disqualifies you and just puts you in. Honorable Mentions So

1030
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: longer beam had one of the most complete workouts of

1031
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: anybody in testing in on field drills, as WELL and.

1032
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: I liked his performance.

1033
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: As well and another guy got to mention this just, For,

1034
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: YOU greg i don't want to, reveal All but i'm

1035
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: going to. Right now none Other Than kayleb bransaw from

1036
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: the Two Lane green Wave Makes let's go makes my

1037
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: team because of the performance he put down that included

1038
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: a four, three three a forty inch avert kind of

1039
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 2: borderline freakish numbers.

1040
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: From him and he was good on the field, As

1041
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: well so he likes LIKE.

1042
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: An, nfl player he'll he'll be, a nickel like a

1043
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: smooth player who can who can. Hit, inside yep. LOVE

1044
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: it I love he's going up and before, we go

1045
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: The safety's Nick emin wari just blew up the combined

1046
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: three pounds, you know had a four to four and just.

1047
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: Crazy numbers how did he look in, the DRILLS because

1048
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: i think he's someone who absolutely improved his draft stock

1049
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: to from a guy where it's like maybe he's in

1050
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: that first, round mock maybe. He's NOT so i have

1051
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: a feeling he's going to be in the top twenty

1052
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: of a lot of first.

1053
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: Round, mocks yeah he's the first, round pick he's the

1054
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: first safety out, the board but he didn't do, the

1055
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: drills so you just go off, the testing and because of,

1056
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: the testing just in.

1057
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: Complete, picture again he's an aauorable mention.

1058
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: This team but there is one other GUY who i

1059
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: think helped himself out, a lot maybe not with, the

1060
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: testing but with the way that he went through, those

1061
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: drills and It Was malachi Starks. From georgia he ran

1062
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: a four or five forty to thirty three, inch vert

1063
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: but on the field he. Was excellent he, was springy he,

1064
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: Was sharp he had the most complete performance. Of anybody

1065
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: he was a natural as a. BALL catcher i kind

1066
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 2: of felt like there was a bit Of A brian

1067
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: branch similarity in terms of testing versus on. Field performance

1068
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: THAT'S what i Felt about branch when he was in

1069
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: the combine a couple of years ago. As WELL so

1070
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: i see good things for. This guy he may have

1071
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: snuck into the first round.

1072
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: AS well i. Love That And, jday BURDEN who i

1073
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: don't think did the drills but ran a four to

1074
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: three nine, ninth overall by, the Way On daniel, jeremiah's

1075
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: board and a GUY like i think he's been getting

1076
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Speaker 1: some of that. Branch comparison people weren't sure about. His

1077
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: speed so it's one of those where like maybe he

1078
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he plays, that fast but he, ran

1079
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: fast and so that's definitely gonna help. His chances so, you,

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Speaker 1: Say amen warri's For safety off. The board there's some

1081
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: other Good, players starks, you know barn if you want

1082
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: to count him. AS one i guess he's sort of a.

1083
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: Hybrid there there, are good good enough. Defensive, backs look

1084
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: you were more than. Good enough you you you put

1085
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: in the work. This week are you going back? Out now, oh,

1086
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: God no i'm going to. GO now i have to

1087
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: have to fly. HOME tomorrow i hit my combine wall three.

1088
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: Hours ago it officially officially hit.

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00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: The wall Luckily is.

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Speaker 1: Sunday night right when he dug into, That, state YEAH.

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00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: When i sat DOWN almost i, was like, OH god,

1092
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 3: i mean, come.

1093
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: On it's it's only eleven pm There. In indianapolis that's an.

1094
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: Early night, but yeah if.

1095
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: You knew HOW long i was out, last night you.

1096
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: WOULD understoke i, Love It nick, Shook everyone let's play

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Speaker 1: that music and. Go home i'm really looking forward to.

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Speaker 1: This WEEK it's i would say it's the colm before,

1099
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: the storm the free. Agency storm but there's gonna be,

1100
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: Trades happening there's gonna be. Cuts happening we will be

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00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: there for you. All week we'll also preview the off

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Speaker 1: seasons FOR the. Afc teams we'll talk about. Free agents

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Speaker 1: we want To Sign patrick claybond with me on our. Next,

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Speaker 1: show yeah when you're getting the all combined team from the,

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Speaker 1: man himself you know football's back