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Speaker 3: You could read it in the Orange County Register. Scott,

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Speaker 4: How are you? Thanks for having me?

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Speaker 1: How did you get the interview with him?

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Speaker 4: Well? I wish, I wish I had some elaborate, pulking

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Speaker 1: But I didn't we didn't know you, or he wasn't

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Speaker 4: He didn't know me before until I you know, obviously

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Speaker 3: You have enormous piles of feces and needles, and people

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Speaker 3: Now the question is do you have the survival instincts

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Speaker 2: Now, when you in this crowd that we're talking about

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Speaker 2: The homelessness problem, but there can't be any enforcement used.

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Speaker 1: Have to tolerate. Here's the results, and these are real.

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Speaker 3: You had the homicides almost triple, You had the homeless

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Speaker 2: They talked to John Torren, the black owner of a

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Speaker 1: How could you debate.

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Speaker 3: This Seriously, how is there a debate and the people

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Speaker 1: Oh and I love this the dopey mayor. Did we

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Speaker 2: The nation are all seeing homelessness. We need more state

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Speaker 1: That's it. Just more money, no the cities.

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Speaker 2: That's the annual city spending for homeless house and services

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Speaker 3: And you got your money. Shut up, you tripled, you

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Speaker 3: facts not the answer, right, Okay? Because the homeless, nonprofits

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Speaker 2: They went really down the hole when we got to

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Speaker 3: And the anarchists are involved in all these activist groups.

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Speaker 1: So the activist won all these holmost advocates.

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Speaker 3: You win because like California lost a net three hundred

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Speaker 1: Enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: We got more coming up. Johnny KENKFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: We're alive everywhere in the iHeartRadio app Well. One of

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Speaker 1: You know what? You what's fascinating.

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Speaker 3: At San Francisco and Portland get more and more disgusting

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Speaker 1: People are leaving in droves. It's like, what else can

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Speaker 3: Let's say we got the criminals running around right, cards

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Speaker 3: Oh good good, that'll spruce up the neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: But why don't they take it indoors?

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Speaker 1: Why do they allow all.

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Speaker 3: This stuff outdoors to destroy neighborhoods. I mean, there are

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Speaker 2: You will, you're right, because I think it destroys the

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Speaker 3: It does because one pathogen pathological behavior leads to another

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Speaker 3: it's one big family. What I don't understand, and this

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Speaker 2: The comparison, of course they're using is Amsterdam. I've been

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Speaker 3: Do they have thousands of deranged drug addicts homeless addicts.

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Speaker 1: In the streets. They did not not when I was there.

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Speaker 1: What do you think is going to happen in San Francisco?

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Speaker 3: There's a little bit of Amsterdam. It's like, what you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I well, there's another story related to this, and

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Speaker 1: Scenes in California.

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Speaker 2: I've yet to run into this, but I maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: But this is going on Woodland Hills. I think this.

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Speaker 2: Remember the law that they passed which no longer made

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Speaker 3: is a weirdo. Okay this Yeah, he's this emaciated looking

439
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Speaker 3: little weasel from San Francisco, and he writes laws and

440
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Speaker 3: gets them passed, and they're all about degrading public life.

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Speaker 3: And they often have like some sexual component to them.

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Speaker 3: There's there's something really creepy and weird about him, and

443
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Speaker 3: and and so, and then they always find some marginalized

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Speaker 3: group to use as a shield. So he thinks there

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Speaker 3: should be public prostitution because the old laws targeted disproportionately

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Speaker 3: transgender women.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know where to begin with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I just don't think there's one complaints.

449
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Speaker 1: So we decided to run with a law. Right.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody wants to live in a neighborhood

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Speaker 3: or have a business, or or even walk through the

452
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Speaker 3: neighborhood in a place where there's rampant prostitution. That's something

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Speaker 3: that should be done privately. With the Internet. There's no

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Speaker 3: reason for.

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Speaker 1: This so here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he is so gross and disgusting, and he's

457
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Speaker 3: always about taking the worst elements of human nature and

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Speaker 3: enabling those worst elements to thrive in public in front

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Speaker 3: of other people.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, a Los Angeles police source said that the law

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Speaker 2: is definitely handcuffing them from cracking down on prostitution. Because

462
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Speaker 2: of this reform, they can only make rast of a

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Speaker 2: suspect admits to prostitution, which they said is pretty rare.

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Speaker 2: Other than that, they can't because this was one of

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Speaker 2: their tools they used to deter people from doing this.

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Speaker 3: You know, all they're doing is making areas uninhabitable, and

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Speaker 3: we're seeing it right. People are fleeing downtown Portland, fleeing

468
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Speaker 3: San Francisco, they're fleeing parts of California. They're just fleeing

469
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Speaker 3: because nobody wants to live like this. And at the

470
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Speaker 3: end of it, you will have a Detroit situation, and

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Speaker 3: Detroit never came back. You can destroy a city and

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Speaker 3: it never comes back, and you will look back twenty

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Speaker 3: years from now and say, my god, this is a shame.

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Speaker 1: This is a travesty. But too late, it's dead. And

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Speaker 1: that's a comparison.

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Speaker 2: I've always used the way the russ Belt went, particularly

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Speaker 2: cities like Detroit. You're beginning to see it It's probably

478
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: gonna take a little longer and slower here because that

479
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: was much more about jobs. You know, this is the depression,

480
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: and the job's all moved out, but quality of life's

481
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Speaker 2: important to people, and they'll move out too.

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Speaker 1: All right, We've got more coming up.

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Speaker 2: Johnny KENKFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 1: We're on from one to four, So Rome's done.

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Speaker 2: If you missed any part of the show, you can

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Speaker 2: always check us out with the podcast at KFI AM

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Speaker 2: six forty dot com or of course the iHeartRadio app. Well,

488
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Speaker 2: people are probably planning, maybe there are spring break vacations

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Speaker 2: come out up and the State Department has issued one

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Speaker 2: of its sternest warnings ever not to travel to a

491
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Speaker 2: bunch of parts of Mexico Kolima, Guerrero, miko Con, Sinaloa,

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Speaker 2: and a couple of other states.

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Speaker 1: I can it's all over crime. Now.

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Speaker 2: There's always problems with drug cartels and crime in that country,

495
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Speaker 2: but they sometimes step up, step up the it's the

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Speaker 2: Bureau of Consular Affairs. They say that there have been

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Speaker 2: shootings between warring gangs that have injured or killed bystanders,

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Speaker 2: kidnappings and also they're targeting a lot of people that

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Speaker 2: are a Green card holders or lawful permanent residents, along

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Speaker 2: with of course tourists. And we still don't know what

501
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: happened to that Orange County public defender Elliott Blair who

502
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: died while on vacation in Rosa Rito when he was

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Speaker 2: found at the bottom of a hotel balcony on the ground,

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Speaker 2: and family things said he was beaten and possibly thrown

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Speaker 2: over the balcony, saying he has a bunch of skull fractures,

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Speaker 2: and the Mexican official simply saying, looks like he got

507
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Speaker 2: drunk and fell so and the big story there was

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Speaker 2: that they reported they were victims of a shakedown by

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Speaker 2: police officers just an hour or two before.

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Speaker 1: That happened, when they were driving back to the hotel. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe the Mexican police. I don't either.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to imagine the amount of corruption and the

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Speaker 3: amount of violence and the infiltration of the cartels in

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Speaker 3: law enforcement and government throughout Mexico. I mean, it's really

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Speaker 3: some of it is a totally lawless society, and there's

516
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Speaker 3: no other nobody to go to if you're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the other card that came into a play. They

518
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Speaker 2: just arrested last month of Vido Guzman. He's the son

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Speaker 2: of El Chapo Joaquin El Chopol Guzman, who's in a

520
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Speaker 2: United States a federal prison, felt a long term El

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Speaker 2: Chippo l chip off the old block. You right, the

522
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Speaker 2: father's El Chapel, the son's El Chippo.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. You just made that up. Just

524
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Speaker 1: made that up. It's pretty good on the fly. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's the leader of the Asina Loa drug cartel.

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Speaker 2: And the last time they captured him, I guess that

527
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen this time. Remember they took a

528
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Speaker 2: bunch of hostages and the decision was made to release him,

529
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: but they arrested him again. I you know, they go

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Speaker 2: back and forth in Mexico as to how to deal

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Speaker 2: well the drug cartel violence. Obviously, it employs people and

532
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: brings in money. Oh yeah, there's that side to side.

533
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: You can get it very violent to people lose their heads.

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Speaker 1: So well they're they're more violent. Uh there.

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Speaker 3: There there's more psychos in in the drug cartels, right,

536
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Speaker 3: all all the psychos are on the side of the cartels.

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Speaker 3: There's more bad guys than there are good guys.

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Speaker 1: I think it pays better for psychos. Yeah, it is

539
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Speaker 1: great pay because of your psycho. What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 3: You're gonna bad groceries or are you gonna shoot people

541
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Speaker 3: in the head.

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Speaker 1: When the drug deals don't go?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean choice? Yeah, I mean I want to bag groceries.

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Speaker 1: You want to shoot people or cut their heads off

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Speaker 1: and put them on the spikes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, A decent guy is gonna want to beg groceries.

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00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: A psycho is going to want to put their heads

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Speaker 3: on spikes.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be one of these people that overreacts.

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Speaker 1: But I have not really ever been to.

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Speaker 2: Mexico except for short visit at Tijana, and that's not

553
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Speaker 2: really going very far so I but oh no, Debor

554
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: Mark's gone there.

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00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: She got COVID day. Were warning about that or they should?

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00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're concerned on many fronts. It asked tourist

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00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: exercise increased caution. Were traveling in seventeen Mexican states, and

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Speaker 2: one of them has the popular destination can Coon.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people went there.

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Speaker 3: The one time I went, and we stayed at one

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Speaker 3: of those resorts near Knekun. Yeah, the whole concept there

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Speaker 3: scared me because you couldn't go directly to the front gate.

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Speaker 1: You had to go on a series of winding roads

564
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Speaker 1: that went up.

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Speaker 3: And back and up and back and up and back,

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Speaker 3: and they had they had bumps on the roads to

567
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Speaker 3: slow cars down because they wanted to make it difficulty.

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Speaker 3: I imagined they had cameras and if they spotted drug

569
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Speaker 3: cartel cars or vans coming, they would get a lot

570
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Speaker 3: of warning because you couldn't go through all the ups

571
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Speaker 3: and downs very quickly because of the bumps. And then

572
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Speaker 3: when you got to the front of the resort, it

573
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: was a tall metal gate, like trying to get into

574
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Speaker 3: a castle, and then there was security that had your

575
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Speaker 3: name on a list, and then they would open the

576
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Speaker 3: gate and you'd get inside, and then you were supposed

577
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Speaker 3: to stay inside the whole time, unless you wanted to

578
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Speaker 3: do tourism, because we went to see pyramids. And then

579
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Speaker 3: you had to go in their van, and their van

580
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: their vans were plain white because they didn't want to

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Speaker 3: advertise they were from a hotel. And the whole thing

582
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Speaker 3: kind of freaked me out. Yeah, it looked like they

583
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Speaker 3: were prepared for war. They were prepared for an invasion.

584
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Speaker 3: High walls, you know, ringing around the.

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Speaker 1: Edges of the property.

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Speaker 5: Any chances, Uh conways here, I got one answer for you.

587
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 5: How about uh Hawaii? He heard of that.

588
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, got the same weather. Yeah, I'm not

589
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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of Mexico.

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00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 5: We have I believe we're going to play the audio

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Speaker 5: of last Friday when I said this game is going

592
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 5: to come down to one final call from the raft

593
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Speaker 5: to benefit Kansas City because there was yeah, there was

594
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Speaker 5: seventy three percent of all the money was on Philly

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00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: and Vegas needed a flag.

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Speaker 1: And they got what I say, Yeah.

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00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: So and they must have paid off that defensive back

598
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Speaker 2: because he said it was an okay call.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everybody. Everybody's on pabrole. Yeah, everybody out there is.

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00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm making some kind of dough.

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Speaker 5: I was surprised in the Super Bowl that they introduced

602
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Speaker 5: the sign language guy and not the four Navy pilots

603
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Speaker 5: that flew over you know, use four women.

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Speaker 1: They worked their ass off, you know, they don't they

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Speaker 1: don't trust.

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00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 5: They don't trust, you know, seventy million dollar planes just

607
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Speaker 5: to any idiot I know.

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Speaker 1: And these women don't names.

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Speaker 5: You know, the glass ceiling, all the struggles they had

610
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 5: and not a single name, but we know the guy

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Speaker 5: doing the sign language.

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Speaker 3: He came out and introduced him, and I said out loud,

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Speaker 3: well what is what does he do?

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Speaker 1: What's he gonna do? And then later on they cut

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Speaker 1: to him doing the.

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Speaker 5: Signs the sign language guy, right, I don't know, it's inclusive,

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Speaker 5: stop it. I guess, I guess. And then the latest

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Speaker 5: balloon that was knocked down, I guess. Joe Biden just

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Speaker 5: recently said they shot it down in honor of DeMar Hamblin.

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Speaker 1: They shut it down in front of he's just done

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Speaker 1: cork in honor of DeMar.

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Speaker 5: That's gonna go on for six more years. All right,

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Speaker 5: It does seem like a lot big dog, all right,

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Speaker 5: ding dog, send the email some kind of show.

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Speaker 1: It's the John and Ken Show. Yeah, that's sorry.

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Speaker 4: The news right

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