1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest on the war where Iran, 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: now into its twenty fourth day, Tehran has been carrying 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: out fresh waves of attacks across the Persian Gulf after 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: President Trump issued a deadline on social media over the 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: weekend to reopen the strait of horror moves. We get 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: the very latest from Bloomberg's Jumana Borsecci in Dubai. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 4: He's basically given Iran a forty eight hour ultimatum to 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 4: reopen the streets without threats or else. He says, the 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 4: US will hit and obliterate various power plants, starting with 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 4: the biggest one. First, that Iran has around one hundred 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: power plants that they're sitting on that could potentially be targets. Now, Iran, 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 4: we're quick to retaliate as ever, and they said that 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: if that does happen, and if civilian infrastructure targeted, then 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: they in turn will strike back on all energy, information, technology, 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 4: and desalination infrastructure linked to the US and Israel in 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 4: the region. 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 3: And Bloomberg's Jumanni Burssetti reports this morning Iran is threatening 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: to mine the entire Persian Gulf if the US or 22 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: Israel attack its islands or coastline. 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 5: Nathan. 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: Israel meanwhile, has been carrying out new waves of air 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: strikes on infrastructure in Tehran. Defense Minister Israel Cant says 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: the intensity of US and Israeli attacks will increase significantly 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: in the coming week, and we get that part of 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: the story from Bloomberg's Dan Williams in Jerusalem. 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 5: The public commentary has been abuiliant, almost triumphalists, especially when 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 5: it comes to the Israeli Defense Minister devowing stepped up 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 5: strikes on this the fourth week of the war. Nonetheless, 32 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 5: perhaps more quietly, officials in noting that the Iranians have managed, 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 5: despite a drop off in missile strikes overall during the 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 5: third week of the war, to pick them up over 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 5: the weekend, specifically with two missile attacks. Two missile that 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 5: managed to reach that targets towns in the south of Israel, 37 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 5: and more than one hundred people civilians were wounded over 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 5: the weekend. 39 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: And that's Bloomberg's Dan Williams who reports Iran is claiming 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: that attack in the southern cities of Irod and Demona 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: was in retaliation for a strike, and it's net Town's 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: nuclear facility. 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: And Karen the White House is defending the stepped up attacks. 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: Treasury Secretary Scott Besson says President Trump will take whatever 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: steps are needed to deny Iran the ability to project 46 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: power internationally. 47 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 6: Every day we are taking out their missiles, their missile systems, 48 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 6: and the factories that build those missiles. And now are 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 6: the General Kine Secretary Headsith are leading a campaign to 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 6: destroy all the fortifications along the Straits of Formost. 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett appeared on NBC's Meet the Press 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: Heard Sundays on Bloomberg Radio. But Eurasia Group President Ian 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: Bremer says a prolonged war is not priced into the 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: markets yet. 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 7: This Iranian regime, if they wish, are going to be 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 7: capable of continuing to pose threats to anything that goes 57 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 7: through the Strait and to ongoing production and capability of 58 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 7: golf energy infrastructure. 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, the Golf. 60 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 7: Is concerned about that, and they don't want the United 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 7: States to stop now having started the war, until that 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 7: is resolved in some way. 63 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: Eurasia Group President Ian Bremer was a guest on Bloomberg 64 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: This Weekend, airing every Saturday and Sunday at seven am 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: Eastern on Bloomberg Radio and Television and the Bloomberg Business App. 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, we are seeing major moves in the markets 67 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: as President Trump's deadline approaches. Right now, S and P 68 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: futures are down seven tenths of up percent. Stocks in Japan, China, 69 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: and Hong Kong fell more than three percent. South Korea's 70 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: Cosby plunged more than six percent. Despite today's sell off, 71 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Markets Alive Executive editor Mark Hudmore says investors are 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: not fully pricing in the Middle East war. 73 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 8: The market continues to be far too optimistic because they're 74 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 8: focused on the fact that we always get a Trump taco, 75 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 8: you know. Geopolitical risk in the Middle East is always 76 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 8: a fade. We've got the mid terms come ups. The 77 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 8: US doesn't have any incent to continue going. They're all 78 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 8: based on the idea that the US has near unilateral 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 8: control over the conflict, which is not the case at all. 80 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 8: In fact, as Trump's threatened, the Weekend implicitly accepts it 81 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 8: is Iran who controls the stread of remoss and when 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 8: it will reopen. 83 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 2: And Bloomer's Mark Cudmore also noted precious metals are getting 84 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: hit today. Checking gold right now, Comas gold is down 85 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: seven percent, Spots silver is down almost six percent. 86 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: And global bond yields have risen to their highest levels 87 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: in almost two years. 88 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: Karen. 89 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: Here, in the US, yields are at their highest in 90 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: months on speculation the Federal Reserve may raise borrowing costs 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: to combat inflation. The specter of stagflation caused by the 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: Iran war has wiped out more than two and a 93 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 3: half trillion dollars from the value of global bonds this month. 94 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: Oil on to move again. It's higher and at checking 95 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: prices right now nim scrude oil up nine tenths of 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: percent at ninety nine dollars seven cents a barrel, while 97 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: Brent is at one hundred and thirteen dollars. The International 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: Energy Agency says more than three dozen assets in the 99 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: Middle East have suffered extensive damage. Here's Ia, Executive director 100 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: of fanti UROL. 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 9: We are following the damage on all the energy assets. 102 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 9: At least forty for zero energy sts in this region 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 9: are severely or very severely damaged across nine countries. 104 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: An Ia, executive director of Fanti Barrel says, in addition 105 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: to oil and gas, some of the vital arteries of 106 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: the global economy, such as petrochemicals, fertilizers and sulfur have 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: also been impacted. 108 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: Then, Karen, the CEO of one of the world's biggest 109 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: bank says, energy prices are likely to remain elevated. We 110 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: spoke with UBS Banking boss Sergio or Madi. 111 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 10: Energy prices are likely to stay high for the foreseeable future, 112 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 10: put in some inflation pressure and also some pressure on 113 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 10: the delivery chain or on the supply chain. 114 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: Ub As CEO Sergiyo or Madi says so far his 115 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: firm's customers are not making dramatic changes to asset allocation 116 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: as a result of the war. 117 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: Nathan, UK Prime Minister here Starmer will hold an emergency 118 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: meeting with his top ministers on the Iran crisis, and 119 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: we go to London and get the very latest of 120 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's James Wilcock, James, good morning. 121 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 11: Good morning, Karen, Nathan UK. Gilt leals are hitting highs 122 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 11: not seen since two thousand and eight. Energy prices are 123 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 11: forecast to rise as much as twenty percent, and over 124 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 11: the weekend a UK military base was targeted by Iranian missiles. 125 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 11: Prime Minister Kissed Darma meets with the Bank of England 126 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 11: governor and other top officials later for crisis talks on 127 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 11: what can Britain do. He's been clear the UK does 128 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 11: not want to get drawn into the war in the 129 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 11: Middle East, but the economic consequence and says already on 130 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 11: Britain shows in London, James will Cook Blimberg Radier. 131 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: Okay, James, thanks for also following and developing storyback on 132 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: this side of the Atlantic. Authority say an Air Canada 133 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: flight collided with a Port Authority vehicle at New York's 134 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: LaGuardia Airport. The Air Canada Express plane from Montreal had 135 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: seventy six people on board. The Port Authority has confirmed 136 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: now the pilot and co pilot died in this collision. 137 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: The National Transportation Safety Board is launching a team to 138 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: investigate today, and a notice has been issued by the 139 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: Federal Aviation Administration that airport operations at LaGuardia will remain 140 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: suspended until at least two o'clock this afternoon. 141 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: Well Nathan, President Trump says ICE agents will be going 142 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: to airports today. As Congress continues debating a funding plan 143 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: for homeland security, the President named White House Borders Our 144 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: Tom Homan to lead the effort. 145 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 12: We're simply there to help TSA do their job in 146 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 12: areas that don't need their specialized expertise, such as you know, 147 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 12: screening through the X ray machine, not train that we 148 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 12: won't do that. Whether there are roles we can play 149 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 12: to release TSA officers from the non significant roles such 150 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 12: as guarding an exit so they can get back to 151 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 12: the scanning machines and move people quicker and Wright. 152 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: How sports our Tom Homan made the comments on CNN. 153 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: Hundreds of thousands of Homeland Security workers, including from the TSA, 154 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: Secret Service and Coastguard, have worked without pay since Congress 155 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: failed to renew DHS funding last month. Time Now for 156 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: look at some of their stories making news in New 157 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: York and around the world, and for that we're joined 158 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: by Bloomberg's John Tucker. John, good morning, and good morning, Caaron. 159 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 13: The US Supreme Court today will consider a case that 160 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 13: could up end key election deadlines in as many as 161 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 13: twenty nine states have drawn justices in the President Trump's 162 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 13: campaign against mail in ballots. Let's get more from Bloomberg's 163 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 13: Monica Ricks. 164 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 14: The case involves the Mississippi law that allows ballots to 165 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 14: be counted if they arrived shortly after election day, which 166 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 14: the Republican Party and the Trump administration say is incompatible 167 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 14: with federal law. This is part of a prolonged effort 168 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 14: by the GOP to keep control of Congress in November, 169 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 14: but critics say it would lead to chaos, including different 170 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 14: deadlines for congressional and presidential elections than for state and 171 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 14: local races. It could also suppress the votes of people 172 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 14: likely to support Democrats Monica Rix Bloomberg Radio. 173 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 13: Republican Senator Mark Wayne Mullen advanced toward confirmation as Secretary 174 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 13: of the Department of Homeland Security. It cleared a procedural 175 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 13: obstacle Sunday that put his nomination on track for a 176 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 13: final Senate vote earlier this week. The fifty forty thirty 177 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 13: seven vote signals the forty eight year old first term 178 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 13: Oklahoma senator, a former mixed martial arts fighter, a sufficient 179 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 13: support to be installed as leader of the Department. 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More from Bloomberg Daybreak coming up after this. 205 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 206 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 207 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 208 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. On day twenty four, the 209 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: US Israeli war with Iran, attacks and rhetoric are ramping 210 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: up once again head of President Donald Trump's forty eight 211 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: hour ultimatum to reopen the strait of hormones or risk 212 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 3: attacks on Iranian power plants. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant was 213 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: asked how that squares with the President's talk of winding 214 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: down the conflict. 215 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 6: They're not mutually exclusive. Sometimes you have to escalate, Todascali. 216 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: That was Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant on NBC's Meet the Press, 217 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: heard Sundays on Bloomberg Radio. This morning, We're joined from 218 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: Dubai by Bloomberg Horizons anchor Jumani Bursecci and with us 219 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: this morning from Tel Aviv is Bloomberg News Israel Bureau 220 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 3: chief Ethan Bronner. Thanks to both of you for being 221 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: with us, and Jumana, I'll start with you just to 222 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: get us caught up with the latest on what is 223 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: happening in the Middle East, as it does sound like 224 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: the rhetoric certainly is ramping up along with the action. 225 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning. 226 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: Yes, well, you just played some sound there from the 227 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: US Treasury Secretary squad Vessine, who is saying that it 228 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: may be necessary to escalate in order to de escalate, 229 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: and I should just caveat the ultimatum that President Trump 230 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: gave to the Iranians, with the fact that a few 231 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: hours before he'd said that they were thinking of winding 232 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: down some of their military operations in the region. So 233 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 4: there's a bit of a mixed messaging coming through from 234 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: the White House. That being said, the ultimatum that came 235 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: through at around seven forty four pm Eastern Time on Saturday, relevance, 236 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 4: of course, given the forty eight to hour deadline, is 237 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: to Iran to reopen the street without threats and if 238 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: not the US will hit and obliterate their various power plants, 239 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: starting with the biggest one first. So that's what he 240 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: put up in his truth social posts. But of course 241 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: the Iranians were quick to respond and they said that 242 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: the strait will remain completely shut and that if the 243 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: US were to go down the route of targeting their 244 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: power plants, they would strike back. They would target all energy, 245 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: information technology, and desalination infrastructure. They followed that up with 246 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: some comments put forward by the head of the parliament, 247 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 4: the Speaker of the Parliament, and he added that headquarters 248 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: and assets of financial entities that by US Treasury bones 249 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 4: are also legitimate targets. And then a couple of hours 250 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: ago we also got more rhetoric coming through from the 251 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: country's National Defense Council, also putting out a statement saying 252 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: that they're looking to not just mine around the Strait 253 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: of Hormos, but around the entire Persian Gulf. So you 254 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: can see that there is a lot of rhetoric coming 255 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: back through from the Iranians. The big question I think 256 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 4: over the next twenty four hours is whether the US 257 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: actually follows through on this threat, and equally, whether Iran 258 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: in turn will follow through on their own threat, which 259 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: is to strike at some of these key strategic sites. 260 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: And I will say, you know, the water, the desalination 261 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: infrastructure would take this war to get another statusphere because 262 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: so many countries in the region rely on the salinated water. 263 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 12: Well. 264 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: Alongside the threats from the US side Ethan, of course, 265 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: we're hearing reports as well that Israel is ramping up 266 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: its own attacks on Tehran. What's the latest from your perspective. 267 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 16: Yeah, look, I mean, I think Jamonis said it up 268 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 16: very very well. The Israeli is definitely flying over and 269 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 16: attacking Iran again. And my distinct impression is whether or 270 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 16: not there is a specific forty eight hour deadline that's 271 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 16: going to end in the next fifteen hours or so. 272 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 16: From the reporting I've been able to do in Israel, 273 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 16: the Americans are planning a fairly extensive operation to retake 274 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 16: the straight up war moves from Iran. It's going to 275 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 16: take some weeks. That's the message they're sending the Israelis, 276 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 16: and that's the idea that this war has been kind 277 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 16: of driven by Israel. Whether or not that was true 278 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 16: to begin with, is I think shifting now and it 279 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 16: is now the US that's getting out front with the attacks. 280 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: That raises the question of whether the US is preparing 281 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: for a ground operation to retake the Strait of Horror 282 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: moves and how Iran might respond to that. Jumana, what's 283 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: the perspective there? 284 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, our own reporting suggests that the US is 285 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: weighing off the possibility of taking over Kark Island. And 286 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: I should just mention for anyone not familiar with the 287 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 4: geography that Kark Island is a lot more north than 288 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 4: the Strait of Hormus. To actually get to Krk Islands, 289 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: you need to pass through the strait if you're sending 290 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: amphibious vessels to that part of the region. But that aside, 291 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: that would you know, as Ethan just spoke about and 292 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: imply yet another level of escalation in this conflict, because 293 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: also alongside that reports that the US are also planning 294 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: on sending around two and a half thousand, possibly three 295 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: thousand Marines i e. Ground troops to the region as well, 296 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 4: which would imply that what they are attempting to do 297 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: here is twofold. There are two objectives the ongoing military operations, 298 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: the airstrikes that are targeting Iran's both offensive and defensive capabilities, 299 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: but alongside that looking at ways to forcefully reopen the strait, 300 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: and from what we understand from our own reporting, it 301 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: will take them a couple of weeks to degrade Iran's 302 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: offensive capability sufficiently so that once the Marines and the 303 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: extra ar Mada that arise to the region gets there, 304 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: it won't be as exposed to as much of a 305 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: risk as it would be if, say they were arrived 306 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 4: were to arrive today. 307 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 13: Ethan. 308 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: There's certainly a lot of attention right now on this 309 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: ultimatum from the President over the weekend for Iran to 310 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: reopen the straight At this point, does it seem as 311 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: though the US goals in Iran are aligned with what 312 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: Israel is putting forward right now? 313 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 16: I don't see a huge gap. I mean, I you know, 314 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 16: what's clear is that assuring freedom of navigation through horror 315 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 16: moves is a much bigger American goal than an Israeli goal. 316 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 16: So the Israelis have set for themselves three goals here 317 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 16: the nuclear, the ballistic, and the proxies and making sure 318 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 16: that around can't be a threat again to it. I 319 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 16: think that there is I can't say that the Israelis 320 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 16: are unhappy with an approach to the Strait of Horm moves, 321 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 16: although there is some chatter in Israel which says, you know, 322 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 16: that's taking us somewhere else. Let's stay focused on our 323 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 16: the goals that we've set for ourselves here. But you know, 324 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 16: I think the Israelis are so grateful and so amazed 325 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 16: to have lockstep US military operation against Iran that there's 326 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 16: very little carping underway. And I don't you know, I 327 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 16: really don't see a lot of daylight there. I see 328 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 16: an enormous amount of cooperation. 329 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: We're speaking with Ethan Bronner, our Israel bureau chief for 330 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: Bloomberg News in Tel Aviv, and Bloomberg Horizons anchor juman 331 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: and Borsecci with us this morning from Dubai. Jumana. We 332 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: heard over the weekend from Treasury Secretary bess And that 333 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: the goal, as far as the US strikes in the 334 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: Strait of Horror moves is to degrade Iran's fortifications around 335 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 3: the Strait, seeming to be specifically focused on that choke point. 336 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: Does Iran continue to have control over the Strait at 337 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: this point? 338 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, So this is the thing. So the Iranians maintained 339 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 4: that the street is not closed, but it is effectively 340 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 4: closed because it's under Iranian control. And we've been reporting 341 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: our energy colleagues have been reporting over the last week 342 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: that a certain number of vessels have trickled through the strait, 343 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: but most of them are Iranian aligned or headed towards 344 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: strategic buyers for Iran, so towards China or India or Pakistan. 345 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: But they would have received pre approval from the Iranians 346 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 4: to get through the straits, So ultimately, you know, they're 347 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 4: still effectively controlling who passes through, and they've spoken about 348 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: one of their conditions to come back to the negotiating 349 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 4: table is to discuss the future of the Straits and 350 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 4: perhaps introducing a new policy or framework by which vessels 351 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 4: can pass through. Obviously, you know, having Iran maintain control 352 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: over it is not something that's acceptable mostly to Golf 353 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 4: States as well, given the line's share of their own 354 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 4: oil products passed through the straits, and it's something I 355 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: also think that means, you know, from the Golf States perspective, 356 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 4: they want to ensure looking ahead that once this war 357 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 4: is over, we do end up in a circumstance where 358 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: the Strait is not effectively still controlled by Iran, that 359 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 4: they're aill can flow through it without being administered by 360 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 4: Iranian officials. 361 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak, your morning podcast on the stories 362 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 363 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 364 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen. 365 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 366 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: am Wall Street Time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 367 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to one in Washington, 368 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: Bloomberg ninety two nine in Boston, and nationwide on serious 369 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 2: XM Channel one twenty one. 370 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: Plus listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business app 371 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: now with Applecarplay and Android Atto interfaces. 372 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: And don't forget to subscribe to Bloomberg News Now. 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