1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm back with another book to our bonus 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: episode of Next Question. Today we are headed to the 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Golden State, San Francisco, where I got to talk to 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: everyone's favorite Instagram buddy, Leslie Jordan's. We had a blast 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: and I think you will too. My next guest really 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: needs no introduction, with all due respect to David Letterman. 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: So we all got to know him during the early 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: days of the pandemic. I thought his Instagram was so 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: damn funny. I just had to meet him, albeit virtually, 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: and let's just say we took a liking to each other. 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I've since learned about his incredible, unique life story and 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: just how talented he really is. I mean, he can 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: do it all. I am so excited for you all 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: to get to know the wonderful Leslie Alan Jordan's. Thank 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: you for having me. You are welcome. I am so 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: happy you're here. Is it hot? In? Hearers at me? 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: What is the deal with this theater? I am like, 18 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: I've already gone through menopause. What the hell is happening? 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: So I talk to us, Mr tell us what's going on? Well, 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: what is going on? I'm doing a television show called 21 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: Call Me Cat with my Ambiollic who you may know 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: from how you know her from everything? She was blossom 23 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: and she had the uh what's that with? Um? Jim 24 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: Parsons the Big Bang Theory? She was amy on the 25 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Big Bang Theory for years. So I've got that going on. 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be um. I've got this whole other career 27 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: that I just fell into. I'm gonna be a rock 28 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: singer or like a hymn singer. I don't know what 29 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna call. I've got an album called Company's Coming, 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: and I make a list and I'm not a singer, 31 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: but for some reason, hymns, just old Southern hymns I 32 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: can sing. Oh, you wouldn't believe. In the church, they said, 33 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: just sing out for the Lord, and so I would sing. 34 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: But I came up with a list of everybody I 35 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 1: thought I'd like to sing a hymn with and put 36 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: together and every one of them said, yes, Dolly, pardon 37 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: um uh oh everybody, yeah, everybody. And that's so exciting. 38 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: And you well, we're going to talk about the better. 39 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that in a minute. Got no, no, no, 40 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: it's totally fine. I got a clip because I want 41 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: to show everyone how cute you look in your country outfit. 42 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: I like your classes. Where did I get them? You 43 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: got them in the lobby. I got them from you. 44 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: Those are your Catius glasses from the going their tour. 45 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: But let's talk Leslie. Let's talk first about this whole 46 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: phenomenon that you created on Instagram. You during the pandemic, 47 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: you started posting. You moved back to Chattanooga where you're from, 48 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: stayed with your mama, and you started posting things on Instagram. 49 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: We're going to take a look at one of them, 50 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: and it's so random but so adorable. Let's let's watch 51 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: Why are ship? What are you all day? It is awful? 52 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: It's still March, many days in March. When is I 53 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna fucking get well? My mother holding up the steps? 54 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: Ask me who I'm talking to? I'm talking come, my friend, 55 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: mama bothering me? How much more were this gonna take? 56 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: So you just did the sort of funny stream of 57 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: consciousness videos and you ended up you you started, you 58 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: had kind of maxed out at eighty thousand followers, and 59 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: then you're You're like, you have six million followers now, Leslie, 60 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: So why do you think why do you think so 61 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: many people gravitated to your feed during the pandemic? What 62 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: was going on there? Well, you know, my mother said 63 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: to me, why why would you talk like that? In 64 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: all those people you weren't raced to talk like that? 65 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: Because I said, and I said, I bought you a condo. 66 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: So but what hapever was I started? I was a 67 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: marketing genius and I didn't even know it because I 68 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: knew I didn't want to talk about politics, I didn't 69 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: want to talk about religion, and I didn't want to 70 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: sell anybody anything. So for I didn't even know what content. 71 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: You know, the wake up in the morning now and 72 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: I think I gotta come up with some content, you know, 73 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: I got to post something back then. I posted twice 74 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: a day for eighty days, just whatever, you know? And 75 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: what and how did people react? And you must have 76 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: gotten so many d m since as you as I said, 77 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: so many followers. What were they saying to you? You 78 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: know they were they were wonderful because they were saying, 79 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's so tough right now. You know, people 80 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: would come up to me in the grocery store and saying, 81 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm stuck at I was stuck at home with my 82 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: husband and my kids, and I would just I just 83 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: needed a dose of you every day. And I realized 84 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: the power of comedy, you know, just pure comedy, just 85 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: you know. And as I said, I didn't try to 86 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: sell anybody. I'm rethinking that board. But it was you know, 87 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: and and and stuck in Tennessee. And my phone rang 88 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: early on because it jumped from like you said, twenty, 89 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: I had twenty or thirty forty and then um, Megan 90 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Malally from my will and Grace day, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 91 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: back to me. Sorry that bit stole my thunder for 92 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: eight years. So she's a dear friend about it. But anyway, 93 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Megan Malally reposted and I jumped to about you know, 94 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know eighty thousand, and I thought wow. 95 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: And then I don't know what happened, you know, I 96 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 1: don't know how that works. But my friend called and said, Leslie, honey, 97 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: you have gone viral. And I said, no, I'm in Tennessee. 98 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't have COVID, I'm he said, no, Internet viral. 99 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: And it just well, people, I mean, you just spread 100 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: so much joy and you do make people smile and laugh. 101 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I was talking to Orally Brown. I 102 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you heard our conversation, but she's just 103 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: an amazing woman. Grew up in Mississippi, one of twelve kids, 104 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: the daughter of sharecroppers, and I wanted to talk. I'm 105 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: fascinated about people's childhoods and what makes them tick. You 106 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: were you were born and raised in Chattanooga, Tennessee. You 107 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: have twin sisters, and sisters twenty two months. They're twins 108 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: and twenty two months younger than me. So tell us 109 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: a little bit about your childhood, Leslie. Well, you know, 110 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: my my mother was nineteen when I was born. Daddy 111 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: was twenty two. You think back, you think, my God, 112 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: just babies raising babies. But we were never at home, 113 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: you know. We were always on the go. Um My, 114 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: uh my, my mother and my maternal grandmother, her mother, 115 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: I think took one look at a little Leslie and 116 00:07:54,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: thought he's gonna need some help because you know, I 117 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: wasn't like the other boys. I didn't play I didn't 118 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: like sports, you know, and they created they circle the wagons, 119 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: as only good Southern mothers can do. They circle those 120 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: wagons and created this amazing little secret garden where I 121 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: could play with dolls. You know, I could twirl a baton, 122 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, I could do whatever I wanted to do. 123 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: But then, you know, you just knew you don't tell daddy, 124 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, because I would. I was so doll close. 125 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: I said, i'mnna show daddy. No, no, don't show daddy. 126 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: It's just don't show daddy. And then, you know, my 127 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: dad would come home. He was a lieutenant colonel in 128 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: the army. I was not exactly the sun he envisioned, 129 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: and so he would and I would be twirling a 130 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: baton in the front yard, you know. And then but 131 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: he adored me. He adored me, and and you lost 132 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: him when you were just eleven years eleven. When he happened, 133 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: he was flying, he was in the Army reserves by 134 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: the end, and he was flying to Hattisburg, Mrs Hippy 135 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: from Chattanooga, Tennessee. And this plane, there were ten men 136 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: on it just undershot the runway. It was just but 137 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, a terrible time for a kid to lose 138 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: his dad, you know, and especially and it's so funny 139 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: because I thought that maybe I had been somewhat of 140 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: a disappointment to him, and um, I mentioned that to 141 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: my mother and she was a bergasted. She said, you're 142 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: daddy adored you, you know, but it's just I don't know, 143 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: you know, I felt like because I wasn't good. And 144 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: then she told me this crazy story. She said, you know, 145 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: when you were little, we took you to a wedding 146 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: and uh Alan, my dad kept saying, Peggy, he's not 147 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: gonna sit still. I'm a very excitable boy. And they 148 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: were right. I was up. I was down, and mother thought, well, 149 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take him out. And mother said, 150 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the bride swept down the aisle, 151 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: and she said, I just froze like a pointer dog 152 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: like and I couldn't get that bright, and all I 153 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: could talk about when I got home, and I made 154 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: up a game called Bright and Gun, and I was 155 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: the bright and I had an angel food cake pan 156 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: on my head, and I'd taken mother's white tearcloth bathrobe 157 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: and slipped it on backwards. It was Empire ways, it 158 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: was beautiful, it was, and I had and I bank. 159 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: My cousin Karen walked me around. She made her be 160 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: the goon and walked me all around my house. And 161 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: then for Christmas, I wanted a bride doll. That's what 162 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: I wanted. And my daddy said to my mother, I'm 163 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: not gonna get him a bride doll, Piggy. I'm just not. 164 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: You know, you're trying. We're talking the fifties, you know, 165 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: we're talking the Rank ten fifties, and I'm wanting a 166 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: bride doll. And so mother said, well, let's just don't 167 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: mention again and maybe he'll forget about it, you know. 168 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: But it's all I could talk about Christmas Eve. So 169 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: mother said, well, I don't. I don't know what you're 170 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: gonna say to him in the morning, Allen. But and 171 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: so she heard the front door shut and my daddy 172 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: went out. This would have been nineteen. Well, I was 173 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: whatever and bought his twelve, his three year old son, 174 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: the most beautiful bride doll. Mother said it was. It 175 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: was in a box of cellophane. And she said, when 176 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: I came down the steps and I saw her under 177 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: the tree, I squatted in the floor and pee. I 178 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 1: just paid all over the Thanks for sharing. So you 179 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: have talked about the fact that if you hadn't lost 180 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: your dad when you were eleven years old as a 181 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: as a gay teenager, it you might not have come 182 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: out or how would that affected sort of your journey 183 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: and being open about your sexuality. You know, I don't know. 184 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: I told my mother. You know, people say, well, when 185 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: did you come out? I sort of fell out of 186 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: the womb and to her high heels. So you have 187 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: to have been in and come out. And I don't 188 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: know how I negotiated that, but I just you know, 189 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: I remember in high school, i'd sit people down. I 190 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: would say, listen, I have a secret. I need to 191 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: tell you I'm gay. And they'd go and I was 192 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: the secret, you're gay and you murdered somebody. It sounds 193 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: like it sounds like your father was very supportive of 194 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: He was supportive, and I just wonder, you know, I 195 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: just wonder what it would have been like. You know, 196 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: who knows he loved me, So I cannot imagine, you know, 197 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: someone who bought their three year old son of bride doll, 198 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, being upset. You know, yeah, you're the one 199 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: that bought me the bride dog. You made me this 200 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: way more with the one and only Leslie Jordan's right 201 00:12:52,240 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: after this, Well, let's talk about so it's so fascinating 202 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: you grow up grow up in in Chattanooga and then 203 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: you go to ut Knoxville and you take an acting 204 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: class or you know, just kind of to fulfill some 205 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: kind of requirement. And then I know you said it 206 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: performing hit you like a drug. It was just I couldn't. 207 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a journal journalist. I was a 208 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: journalism major, and I took intro to theater for from 209 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: my arts elective. And that afternoon I went to the 210 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: head of the department. I said, what do I this? 211 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: What what do I do? He said, well, first let's 212 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: learn how to pronounce he's because it was I was saying, uh, theater. Yeah, 213 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a green theater. He goes, it's theater. 214 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: I won't get me a degrade theater. And but but 215 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: you obviously fell in love with acting. Got on a 216 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: bus twelve hundred dollars that my mother sewed into my underpants. 217 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: I had no fear. I had no fear back then. 218 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: I just think back on it just makes me tired. 219 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: I got on a bus pinning my underpants, my degree 220 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: in theater, and a tiny suitcase, and I got off 221 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: at the corner of Hollywood and Vine, which so you're 222 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: twenty two years old at the time. No, I was 223 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: older than that by then, I think, yeah, and you 224 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: got there, you got to Hollywood, and I know your 225 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: mom said, if it doesn't work out, you can come home, 226 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: she said, and you'll have a standing ovation. That's so sweet. 227 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: And and so what was it like when you first 228 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: got to Hollywood trying to break into the business, because 229 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, well, it was interesting because it was very 230 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: wink wink, because you would go out at night to 231 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: the gay bars and you would dance and this and that, 232 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: and you would see everybody would see producers, you would 233 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: see actors and this and that. But in the daytime, 234 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, very wink wink, you know. And I had representation, 235 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: uh that were gay. My agent was gay. Everybody was gay. 236 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: They told me. Now. They would call me up and say, now, listen, 237 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: feed on the ground. Put your voice in your lower register. 238 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: You know, la la la, don't go in there. Take 239 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: it down, you know, take it down a not right. 240 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: I wore cowboy boots and I had a mustache. And 241 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: you're mazing you. My friend looked back, because who does 242 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: she think she's fooling? But that you also had you 243 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: struggled back in those days, Leslie, you had some pretty 244 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: dark days. You had problems with substance abuse, you ended 245 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: up in jail. Um, I mean, what do you think 246 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: major life unravel once you got to Hollywood. I don't know. 247 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: I just think I really I've I've always you know, 248 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: around the rooms of recovery, they talk of this gene, 249 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, that addictive people have. And I think I 250 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: used to think, oh, bullshit, you're infantile. Is I'm just 251 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: need to grow up? No, there's something, as I see 252 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: it in my family, you know, with one twin who 253 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: who we've had the dark twin. You know, she's had props. 254 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: And I think I don't know, I don't know what 255 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: it was. I do think that once I got sober, 256 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: I was forty two years old, and I remember thinking, 257 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: my friends said to me, you're a and this is 258 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: a terrible thing to say, but he said, you're a 259 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: fag hating fag honey. And I said, what do you mean? 260 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: And he said, you you have so much self hatred, 261 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: you know. So a lot of that was internal homophobia, 262 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: That's just what it was. It was the shame, you know, 263 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: having been brought up in the church. Also, I've been 264 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: baptized forteen times. We're not gonna go down that road. 265 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, but just accepting something that I knew, you know, 266 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: was me. I was born this way, and so anyway. 267 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: It took years and years and years of UM. I'm 268 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: glad I got into recovery because they you don't go 269 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: over your problems. You don't go under your problems. You 270 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: go through and and um, and you're doing well. Now. 271 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell a really funny story that when I first 272 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: got into recovery, my spiritual advisor said, your greatest fearlessly 273 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: and fear is what drives us to drink and drug. 274 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: Your greatest fear is heterosexual men. I said, well, no, ship, 275 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't exactly a picnic on the playground, you know. 276 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: And he said, well, I want you to join a 277 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: stag recovery group all men. And I said, I was 278 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: scared to death. I don't know why. So I went 279 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: and joined this recovery group. There were fifty of the 280 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: butchers men you've ever seen. And my, my, my buser 281 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: said I want you to walk right up to the 282 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: podium and I want you to tell them I am 283 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: scared to death of you man. And so right before 284 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: the meeting started I called him and I said, do 285 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: you think I should just tell him that I'm gay, 286 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: just right off the bat, he goes, Honey, you got 287 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: to walk to the podium. They're gonna know you. You 288 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: know what, what I think is so interested to that, 289 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: while you're in the throes of some of your really 290 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: tough days, you were ministering to to AIDS victims because 291 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: you were in California at the height of the crisis. 292 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: And I'm curious what motivated you to do that and 293 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: what you learned from that experience. You know what happened 294 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: was and it's it's when when the pandemic started, I 295 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: remember thinking of myself, I've been through this on some scale. 296 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: I kept thinking, and it hit me like ino, here 297 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: we were gay men were dropping like flies. We couldn't 298 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: get help from anyone. The government was not really helping us, 299 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: and we had I remember looking at one another and saying, 300 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: we're going to have to take care of our own. 301 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: And so all these you know, groups started, and UM, 302 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: I got very involved with an organization called Project night Light, 303 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: which was all we did was sit with men who 304 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: were in hospice near the end and UM and so 305 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: all of that was happening. On top of it was 306 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: a very tumultuous time. But I look back and I 307 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: don't I'm not. It wasn't a sad time for me. 308 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: You know, we galvanized. And I'm hoping kind of that 309 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: the same thing is going to happen as we come 310 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: through this pandemic, because what happened was after it was 311 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: all over the gay community, were we were strong, we 312 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: were more apt to reach out to one another, to 313 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: help another. We've all been through it together. I'm hoping 314 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: maybe with this pandemic that will come out the other 315 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: end and as because this doesn't know, you know, gay, straight, white, 316 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: black all over the world. You know, maybe we can 317 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: come through this and uh be kinder, you know, be 318 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: more willing to wouldn't that be nice? Then the pulpit. 319 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I write in my book about 320 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: how you know, first of all, your big break came 321 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: in Will and Grace when you played Beverly Leslie. And 322 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: it was a role originally for Joan Collins, but it 323 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: landed in your lap somehow, Leslie. I mean, and and 324 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: and I write a lot in my book about how 325 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: much change we've actually witnessed when it comes to gay rights. 326 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: You know, I covered Matthew Shepard, that darling boy who 327 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: was beaten to death and waoming, and talked about, you know, 328 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: all kinds of issues facing the gay community. Then I, 329 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, fast forward seventeen years. I interviewed Jim oh 330 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: burgha fell, the plaintiff in the same sex marriage ruling 331 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court. And when you look at the 332 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: strides that have made been made and granted, not everywhere 333 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: in the country, but in general, do you feel heartened 334 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: by that? And and and did you ever think in 335 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: your lifetime, growing up as a little boy in Chattanooga, Tennessee, 336 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: that we would see a culture where there's much more acceptance. 337 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: I thought I was only queer on the planet. I 338 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: thought I was the only one. I mean, what would 339 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: I what would I know? I was in an elevator 340 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: in Denver one time and there was a lady, a 341 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: little lady there, and she said, I love your work. 342 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: I said, oh, thank you. You're not what really paying attention, 343 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: And she said, my name's Judy Shepard. And I burst 344 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: into tears, and we got off the elevator and talked 345 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: in depth about all that. But you know, to have 346 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: been on the forefront of all of this, you know, 347 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: um and I'm very proud. You know. Sometimes it's funny. 348 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: I saw two guys sitting side by side holding hands 349 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: not too long ago, and I walked by the table. 350 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: I said, I just love this. I said, I hope 351 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: you kids realize you know what we went through there, 352 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: like uh huh yeah anyway, And I thought, oh, I 353 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: don't want to be that one. You know that all 354 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: we red there the war. You have no idea. I 355 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. You know, they're gonna have 356 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: their own thing. And but you know, I'm proud. I'm 357 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: proud to have been a part of all that. We'll 358 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: be right back. You are got to have so much 359 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: going on, as you were talking about, You've got this 360 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: show with me, uh my embolic AND's just doing Jeopardy. 361 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: She's doing a great job to anything. And you've got 362 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: this country album, which was you you write, You recorded 363 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: these songs that you were mentioning with all these famous 364 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: country artists, and you look so cute in your outfit. 365 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to show a video of you singing with 366 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: Vince Gill. I think we cued that up, and you 367 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: guys rolled that. You put my life We're going to 368 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: We's it's a holy oh great, you're just having a ball. 369 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: I am so it's so great. I mean, it's so 370 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: great to see you just being discovered by so many people, 371 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: and you're having so much fun less Lee doing all 372 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: these things. You wrote a book, You've got an album, 373 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 1: You've got this show. Do you sometimes say you want 374 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: to pinch yourself? Every night I lay in bed and 375 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: I just think, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. And 376 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: you know this was I'm a Tennessee boy, so to 377 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: be doing the Rheyman, you know, the Rheyman Theater, it 378 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: was just beyond anything. Yes, I've got a new one. 379 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: I from doing the Rheman again on the of November, 380 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: and I've got a brand new outfit. Good Before we go, 381 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: we got a quick lightning round Leslie Jordan's Can we 382 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: do It? Okay, here we go. What's your favorite country 383 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: artists or who's your favorite country artist? Dolly Parton? Okay, okay, okay, 384 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: mine are the chicks. Okay? What is your what is 385 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: your favorite home cook meal? Uh, beef stew, my mother's 386 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: my mother's beef stew. Okay, I like a garden's chicken. Okay. 387 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: What's your go to karaoke song um um uh oh, 388 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: the one about I remember it all fancy. I remember 389 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: it all very well just because I know the words 390 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: with Rayba McIntyre. But say I was a big fan 391 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: of um Bobby Gentry, who wrote I remember it all 392 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: very well looking back as a summer returned eighteen. It's 393 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: a girl thing that any way, Mine is crazy by 394 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: Patsy k Oh. I love that. Okay, what's the What 395 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: would be your dream job if you weren't doing what 396 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: you're doing? Something to do with horses? Really? Yeah, I'm back. 397 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: I rode my whole life and I'm back riding sixty 398 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: six years old. And I went over to the Los 399 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: Angeles Equestrian Center and I said, um, and I just 400 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: walked into a barn. But it was a barn that 401 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: handles show horses. Saddle breads always rode like hunter jumpers. 402 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: But these you sit back and you look pretty, and 403 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start showing horses. Are yes, good for you? Okay? 404 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: Mine would be cabaret singer. Okay, what's your happy place? 405 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: On ambient I read several awful things. I took a 406 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: n Ambian one time and I woke up and um, 407 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: I had ordered uh I had. I thought I got 408 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: too fat at Christmas and I had ordered a slim 409 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: fast and they sent me boxes of food for slim fasts, 410 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: and I had about I think there were sixty eight desserts, 411 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: and I took an Ambian and eight all sixty eight desserts. 412 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: You you that happens, you sleep, you eat, that can happen. 413 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that again. Okay, um, all right, 414 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: what we got two more? What's your favorite movie? My 415 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: favorite movie is Coal Miner's Daughter. Oh I love that, 416 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: love that movie Space and Levon Ham was in it. 417 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: Who I've loved him with the anyway, Leavon Halm, y'all 418 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: know who that is. Some of Levon Halm played her 419 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: daddy in the movie. But he started a group called 420 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: the Band I pulled into Nasre. Just course that's Levon Ham. 421 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we of course, of course, alright, but night 422 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: they drove Old Dixie down. That's yeah, I loved him. 423 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't understand who you're saying. Okay, and 424 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: what are you most excited about now that you're such 425 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: a big deal, Leslie Jordan's I think that I'm excited that. Um, 426 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm at a place in my life. I'm sixty six 427 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: years old. I've pretty much accomplished what I set out 428 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: to do, and so everything it just seems like it's 429 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: gravy now. So I have no big thoughts, Oh I 430 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: want to do this, I want to do that. I've 431 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: done it all and so there's something you know, they 432 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: always tell you just live it one day at a time. Well, yeah, 433 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: that's not easy, but but I'm trying to do that 434 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: and you're just having fun. I'm having a ball. Well, 435 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: thank you for coming out, Leslie Jordan and pressing. Thank you, 436 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, guy, say thank you again to my 437 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: friend Leslie Jordan's And if you don't follow him already 438 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: on Instagram, well shit, what are you waiting for? He's 439 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: the Leslie Jordan's Next Question with Katie Kurik is a 440 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Media and Katie Kurk Media. The 441 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: executive producers Army, Katie Couric, and Courtney Littz. 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