1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Whoa I'm a Love addition. 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: As Joe Flacco looks to lead the Bengals to their 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: second straight win and even their record at four and four. 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: As they host the New York Jets Coming Up, Kay 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Adams explains why she's convinced that the Bengals are going 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Amrius Mims joins me to discuss his 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: quest to dominate and trying to find a pair of 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: gloves that fit. 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Now here's a quick 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: reminder that you can have the latest edition of this 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer. By 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: since parabolic microphones. When you watch an NFL game on TV, 22 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: do you marvel at how well you can hear the 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: quarterback bark out signals. There are a couple of reasons 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: why the audio is crystal clear. One, they put microphones 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: in some of the linemen's pads. Those are the only 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: micd up players that are heard live during a game. 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: And two, there are people standing on the sideline holding 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: parabolic mics. Those are the ones that look like little 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: satellite dishes. I bring this up after making a cool 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: discovery last week after the Thursday Night Went Over Pittsburgh. 31 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was praising Joe Flacco for how quickly he's 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: picked things up despite some communication issues. 33 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: I have to nunciate my formations better because some of 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: them we're hearing him for the first time, and so 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: I got to do a better job nunciating. Thanks my 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: Olcahoma accent got him a couple of times, but I 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: thought he did a great job manager. 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: In the game. 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: Zach wasn't kidding. I always listened back to part of 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: the game broadcast to critique my work and I picked 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: up on something that I didn't catch during the live broadcast. 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: And now we've got a time out called by Cincinnati 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: when it was first intent at the Pittsburgh forty six. 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: Did you catch that at the end? I'm going to 45 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: play it again but tweak the audio a little bit. 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: And now we've got a time out called by Cincinnati 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: when it was first intent at the Pittsburgh forty six. 48 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Thanks to one of those parabolic microphones, you could clearly 49 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: hear Flacco tell Zach to enunciate the formation. I don't 50 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: think it really had anything to do with the Oklahoma accent, 51 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: just the difficulty of trying to repeat wordy play calls 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: that he's still in the process of learning. 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: There's certain things with formations and things like that that 54 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 4: you're hearing for the first couple times, and even though 55 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: you've read the play a million times, like when you 56 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: hear it, it just wasn't hitting my brain right. So 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: there was a few of those, and we were joking 58 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: on the sideline like any time that happened, and we 59 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: broke the play and we broke the huddle, and it 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: was like, I don't know if we're right here. I mean, 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: that play hit so we got lucky tonight in that says. 62 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: And we got lucky that a parabolic mic picked up 63 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of audio that helped us understand what 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: the coach at his quarterback we're talking about. Now, let's 65 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: get to my first guest. She is the host of 66 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: up In Adams and not shy about expressing her fondness 67 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: for our Cincinnati Bengal. She has a Bengals fan favorite, 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: our friend Kay Adams k Last Friday morning, after the 69 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: exciting win over the Pittsburgh Steelers, you said on your 70 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: show and I quote the Bengals are going to the 71 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: playoffs cemented. Were you caught up in the excitement or 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: are you still just as confident? 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 5: I am just as if not more confident. I like 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: their schedule coming up. I loved that game. I loved 75 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 5: the second half with Flaco and his debut with an 76 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 5: Inner Division rival from his former stop the week before. 77 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 5: I'm very confident. I still really am. I think with 78 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 5: the division looking like what it looks like, with the 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 5: landscape of the AFC as a whole, Dan, and great 80 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 5: to see you and thanks for having me. I believe 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: in the opportunity ahead of the squad if they beat 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 5: the Jets and the Steelers lose to Green Bay in 83 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 5: Week eight, which is a fun little Sunday night cap 84 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 5: on Week eight, the Aaron Rodgers revenge game against his 85 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 5: former squad. If the Chargers lose to kick off Week 86 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 5: eight against the Vikings at home at so Far, then 87 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 5: these Bengals are Bengals dan Or suddenly a half game 88 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 5: back of both the AFC North lead, I believe, and 89 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 5: a wildcard spot. So all of these teams fighting for 90 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: playoff positioning right now, they all have problems. 91 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 6: You know, do we miss Joe Burrow? Yes, but we're holding. 92 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: It down all right. Let's turn the clock back about 93 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: two weeks. You get the notification that the Bengals have 94 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: traded for Joe Flacco. What was your initial reaction. 95 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 5: If I'm being totally honest and I wanted Jamis. I 96 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 5: was campaigning for Jamis as even in that, you know, 97 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: I was putting up the phone gifts and posting those 98 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 5: on Twitter. I wanted that. I wasn't loving what I 99 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 5: was seeing from Flaco in Cleveland, but him coming here 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 5: clearly a perfect fit. Clearly it's ignited something in him 101 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 5: getting to throw to Jamar and te has done something 102 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 5: to him. I like how he was talking I believe 103 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 5: to Ruler of the Jungle, Andrew Whitworth and Ryan Fitzpatrick. 104 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 5: But he really cares what these young, thriving, amazing receivers 105 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 5: think of him. I liked watching like he still got 106 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: something he wants him to think. He's cool, that he's viable, 107 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 5: that he's the guy, and everybody, I can just tell 108 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: from outside looking at it. I'm very far in LA, 109 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: but everyone's buying into the Flacco experience right now. And 110 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 5: what more could you ask for to keep your hopes alive? 111 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 5: So Burrow gets back. 112 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: The last six quarters that he's played have been remarkable. 113 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody could have anticipated he would play 114 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: this Well. What do you find most remarkable about what 115 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: he's doing? 116 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 5: Dan, He's just letting it rip, you know, like there's 117 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 5: this looseness to him, which I appreciate very much. I 118 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: feel like, you know, just look at that zone read right, 119 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 5: he's doing it. I think the other sort of remarkable thing, 120 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 5: and this is respectfully saying this, like he's not turning 121 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: the ball over, and I really do think that's the 122 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 5: biggest thing. And we're watching him get the ball out 123 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 5: really fast. Which is nice. He did a great job. 124 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 5: The O line did a great job on Thursday Night 125 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: as well. He didn't really give the Steelers tons of 126 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 5: chances to get to him, which I thought was remarkable. 127 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 5: So I would say I would say that, but I 128 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 5: think more than anything, just like the looseness that he's 129 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 5: playing with, I think has been really fun to watch 130 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 5: and meaningful. 131 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: So the dream scenario is that Flacco wins his share 132 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: of games and then in mid December, Joe Burrow comes 133 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: back and he looks great and he leads the Bengals 134 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: to the postseason. And once he's in the playoffs, we 135 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: all know what can happen. Under what circumstances should Joe 136 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: Burrow return? 137 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 5: Gosh, it's a great question, and I'm glad that I'm 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 5: not the one that has to decide these things. I'm 139 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 5: sure Borrow is the kind of quarterback you're going to 140 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: have to like rein in and have a negotiation with 141 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 5: and talk about it and protect him, of course. But 142 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 5: I would say, and I'll say it quite plainly, oh 143 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 5: my gosh, de summer, if they're within like even two 144 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 5: games of a playoff spot, Bengals fans, right. 145 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 6: You have to go for it. 146 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: So a few days after the Pittsburgh game on your show, 147 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: you said, this is sustainable if the offensive line plays 148 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: like that. Is that the biggest key or is there 149 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: anything else for the Bengals to keep I think it. 150 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 6: Is the O line. 151 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 5: I believe that not just protecting Joe of course when 152 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: he's out there, Flacco until he's out there, but really 153 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 5: just getting a run game going was massive. I don't 154 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 5: break down the All twenty two, and I don't understand 155 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 5: why all of a sudden we were able to get 156 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 5: it going right. I haven't really looked into it, but 157 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 5: like the best rushing performance I've seen out of this 158 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 5: team in a couple of seasons. Right. I don't think 159 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 5: it's unreasonable to expect that we know how great of 160 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 5: a player and a talent Orlando Brown can be. He 161 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 5: looked like the optimal version of himself on Thursday. I 162 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 5: don't know why. 163 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 6: I don't know why. 164 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 5: Amarus Mims looked like the full expression of the first 165 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 5: round talent that he know he is up against the 166 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: best in the game, potentially right in TJ. 167 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: Watt. 168 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 5: I don't know if it was just the experience, maybe 169 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 5: the being, Maybe it was Andrew Ruitworth. I don't know, 170 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 5: maybe it was him coming back rallying this offensive line 171 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 5: to sort of looking like what we know they can be. 172 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 5: And it's been frustrating about the O line at points 173 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 5: to not see that, you know, but Ted bringing it everybody. 174 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 5: It's not that this team doesn't have the talent. So yes, 175 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 5: that's what the key is and we know that they 176 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: can do it. We saw it on Thursday. They've got 177 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 5: to do it against the Jets. 178 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: The defense has been opportunistic. They got a couple of 179 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: key interceptions in the game off Aaron Rodgers last Thursday night, 180 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: but they are giving up thirty point six a game. 181 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: Is the reason to believe that this defense can significantly improve. 182 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 5: Up in Adams today, I did my every week I 183 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: do on Wednesdays under reactions. What are the little stories 184 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 5: we aren't maybe talking about enough? And I talked a 185 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: lot about DJ Turner and he's not being talked about. 186 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 5: And I think it's a very like you know, sports 187 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 5: media loves a lazy narrative. We don't want something gets 188 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 5: labeled on someone. It's like a tattoo instead of a 189 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 5: week two week evolution or ability to sort of progress 190 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: beyond what that is and everyone just says, Oh, the 191 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 5: Bengals defense sucks, just sucks. They can't do it. No, 192 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: Like DJ Turner sort of gives me confidence in this. 193 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 5: I think he's he stands in the face of that 194 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 5: because he's been a top three corner this year really 195 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 5: by every metric. And I'll put you know, you can 196 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 5: go look at up and down as I had. I 197 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 5: have all the numbers up earlier this morning, and there 198 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 5: have been signs of improvement that we should have our 199 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 5: hats on over the past couple of weeks. Right, the 200 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 5: Packers is dealers and that's without Trey in the lineup. 201 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 6: So I'm in. 202 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 5: I'm interested to see what it looks like when trade 203 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 5: does get back, which I hope is someday. 204 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 6: You tell me him, is it coming back some day? 205 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: I think so. I'm optimistic. So, speaking of Trey, you 206 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: had boomeris I Sin on your show recently. You two 207 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: discussed the possibility of trading Trey Hendrickson and we're less 208 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: than two weeks away from the trade deadline. Where do 209 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: you stand on trading trade? 210 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 5: Bengals fan's really upset with me on this one because 211 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 5: and I was the one I was very much pushing 212 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 5: the agenda of get him back in here, signed him. 213 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 5: He's a game breaker game and he is, he's wor 214 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: you know, he's worth a long term deal. 215 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 6: That's what my opinion has been. 216 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 5: But you also have to be able to and this 217 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 5: is what makes being a front office so tough. You know, 218 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 5: these decisions that you have to make for right now, 219 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 5: given the opportunity ahead of you, and what the complexion 220 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 5: of the AFC looks like, and then also building for 221 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 5: your future and what that might look like. So I 222 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 5: would say this, if the Bengals had lost to the 223 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 5: Steelers last Friday night, I would be talking about trading, 224 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,479 Speaker 5: not campaigning for it. But I'd be open to the discussion, 225 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 5: which is, any responsible fan should be able to think 226 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 5: at a first round or back like you have to 227 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 5: have from the Colts or the Niners, like you know, 228 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 5: given the fact that he doesn't have a long term 229 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 5: deal done, that's a conversation and a phone call that 230 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 5: the Bengals would have to pick up the phone for that. 231 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 5: I would expect them to do their due diligence. So 232 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 5: if they had lost, I would have been barking up 233 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 5: that tree of what does that look like? How interesting 234 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: that might be. And I will say this if they 235 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 5: lose somehow, which they won't, if they were to lose 236 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 5: to the Jets this week, if they were to lose 237 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 5: next week, which I also again want to say, like 238 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 5: I don't think that will happen, Yeah, then I will 239 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 5: be engaging in that those hypotheticals yet again. But if 240 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 5: they beat the Jets, I think it's dead. I think 241 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 5: that that idea is dead. 242 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: You just said they're not going to lose this week, 243 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: but the Jets come to town winless. They have the 244 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: desperation factor on their side. What must the Bengals do 245 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: to avoid losing to a team that's struggling and looking 246 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: for its first win. 247 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 5: It is scary, right, like there's nothing I always say, 248 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: there's nothing scared, and like somebody has nothing to lose. 249 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: They just want to grec shop and be a pain 250 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 5: in the butt. I think for this one, I was 251 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 5: so impressed by, Like Chase, we find you know when 252 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 5: I was there, when I last saw you, it was 253 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 5: he's about to have like a breakout breakout, You're like 254 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 5: national level breakout here, and then we saw that on 255 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 5: Thursday night. 256 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 6: Can we do that again? Can we keep this run 257 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 6: game going. 258 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: You can't put it all on Flacco, as fun as 259 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: he is, and it's fun as great as these wide 260 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 5: receivers are. I don't think that the Bengals or any 261 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 5: team can win consistently with that kind of a recipe. 262 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 7: Right. 263 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: The Jets offense, they. 264 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 5: Don't have a lot of juice, but you know you 265 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 5: can't give them short fields and turnovers and mistakes. So 266 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 5: I would say, run the ball as much as possible. 267 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: All right, A couple more things for our friend k Adams. 268 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: You're a native of Chicago, and you broke news of 269 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: sorts on your show recently when Chris Collins Earth was 270 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: your guest. I was stunned. Chris told you that Michael Jordan, 271 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan grew up a Cincinnati Bengals fan. As 272 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,479 Speaker 1: a Chicago person, what was your reaction. 273 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I felt bad for Bears fans. I felt 274 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 5: bad for Panthers fans like you could you know where 275 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 5: he's from, Look, you could use like some love for 276 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 5: Michael Jordan and those as. I was just as stunned 277 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 5: as everyone, And I don't know if I believe it right. 278 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 5: I don't think we can believe it until we hear 279 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 5: it from the goat himself, So like I can text 280 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 5: Mike Turco and say, next time you have a little 281 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 5: fireside chat, you should ask him about it. It's very 282 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 5: interesting until I hear Michael Jordan himself help say it. 283 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 6: Then who knows? 284 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 5: If I think they're on the golf course like Dan, 285 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 5: was he just trolling Collinsworth? 286 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. But Chris isn't one to just conjure 287 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: these things up. 288 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: I'm not. 289 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 6: I don't doubt that. 290 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: Yeah that Michael said it to Chris well. 291 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 5: Like so, but have you ever seen an Icky Woods shuffle? 292 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 5: Have you ever seen the shuffle on the in the nineties. 293 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 5: I didn't see Michael ever do that? Do I think 294 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 5: that like Michael had a boomers ice and poster in 295 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 5: the like, I don't know. I've never heard of such 296 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 5: a thing. There's nothing that correlates it. So I think 297 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 5: we can get the answer, hopefully from Tarico. But yeah, 298 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 5: Panthers and Bears fans and shambles over. 299 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 7: That for sure. 300 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: Trico's a college buddy of mine, so I am texting 301 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: him immediately to try to get to the bottom of 302 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: this final thing. For Kay Adams you mentioned recently, that 303 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: there's at least a thought in your mind of coming 304 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: to town for Bengals Bears. Is that a realistic possibility? 305 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 7: Dan? 306 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 5: When is that date? What is the date on that game? 307 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: That is a week from Sunday? So that is the 308 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: next home game after they beat the Jets this week, a. 309 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: Week from Sunday, let's see, So that would be the 310 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 5: twenty that would be the second. 311 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 6: I'm going to be in Chicago. It is not a 312 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 6: far drove. 313 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 5: Right, five four four five five flights into Cincinnati are brutal. 314 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: Let's just call it what it is there, but maybe 315 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 5: not from Chicago. 316 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 6: I'm not putting. Was it an early afternoon. 317 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: Game, one o'clock game. 318 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: I'm just going to say seventy five percent chance tonight. 319 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: That I ah. 320 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 6: But if I go, I want the red carpet rolled out. 321 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: That's I can guarantee red carpet. 322 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 6: I don't know if they're up. 323 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: For that, but if they, if the Bengals want to 324 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: invite me, I would go. Let's just put it like that. 325 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 5: I about that Bengals dot Com because want. 326 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 6: Me to come. 327 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm there, all right. The challenge has been issued to 328 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: Bengals dot Com. I think we'll roll out the red carpet. 329 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: I know I will participate in a red carpet rollout 330 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: in hopes of seeing you at pay Course Stadium. This 331 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: is always a treat. Appreciate this so much. Hope to 332 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: see you a week from Sunday. 333 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 5: Dan, you were such a professional. Thank you for having 334 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 5: me an honor as always Gooday. 335 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: I have reached out to my buddy Mike Turko, who 336 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: is doing segments with Michael Jordan for NBC's coverage of 337 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: the NBA, and maybe when Mike and Chris Collinsworth broadcast 338 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving Night Bengals Ravens game, we'll see a SoundBite 339 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: from Michael Jordan confirming that he was a Bengals fan 340 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: growing up. In last week's went over Pittsburgh, the offense 341 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: finished with a season high four hundred and seventy yards, 342 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: one twenty more than any previous game, and there was 343 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: balance three hundred twenty eight passing yards and one forty 344 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: two on the ground. The offensive line deserves a big 345 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: pat on the back, and I caught up this week 346 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: with right tackle a Marius Mims Amrius. You faced MICHAEH 347 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Parsons a couple of weeks ago. He had no saxon, 348 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: no quarterback hit, sending a streak of eleven straight games 349 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: where he had one or the other. He faced TJ. 350 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: Watt last week. You were on the verge of holding 351 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: him without a sack, and then with about four minutes 352 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: to go, he and Cam Hayward combined to get one 353 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: where you ticked off that you almost made it through 354 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: the game without allowing him to get to the QB. 355 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, but then again, like I said, man playing 356 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: as a guy who's like I said, who's experience, who's 357 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: been around the league a long time. You know, all 358 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: you can do is, like I said, do your best 359 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: to try to limit him as much as possible. And 360 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 3: I feel like we did a good job of doing that. 361 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 3: But also too, I'll try to be perfect. I have 362 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: a perfect game. That's kind of impossible, Like no one's 363 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: gonna have a perfect game. He's a great player, So 364 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: credit to him for you know, him and Cam getting 365 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: to get that sack. But and like reality, yes, I 366 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: would love to have shut him out and not get 367 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: like giving up a sack. Like I said, no pressures 368 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: and stuff happened just because, like I said, he's a 369 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: ball player. You know, he has he has a great game, 370 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 3: and you know, things happen. But yeah, man, like it's 371 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: hot in me like thinking about it still, but also too, 372 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: I know I got to move on and just learn 373 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: from those mistakes. I know I'll see him again, and 374 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: like I said, I'm in a division where I play 375 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: them twice, so we'll see each other a lot. And yeah, 376 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: I think about it as still like dang, what if? 377 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 3: What if? What if? But it happened, something I can 378 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: learn from, something I can move past, and you know, 379 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: try to get better from. 380 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: Dan Pitture said he thought it was your best game. 381 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: Did you feel that way in certain areas? 382 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: Like I said, I do feel like each week as 383 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: it continues, I feel like I might like my game's 384 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: evolving just because like I'm just on another level of 385 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 3: just like like locked in and just you know, I'm 386 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: figuring out what I'm doing wrong very fast and like 387 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 3: two Instead of like getting to the point where coaches 388 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: are telling me what I'm doing wrong, I'm going to 389 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 3: them with information that I would like what I know 390 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: I did wrong and like how to fix it. So, 391 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: like I said, I'm just taking the next step of 392 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: just like being you know, being a pro and just 393 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 3: like diagnosing my film and just realizing, you know, like 394 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: I can do better on this play right here, and 395 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: I can go talk to coach of like what should 396 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: I do right here in the situation or how can 397 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 3: I do that better? So that's just me becoming a 398 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: you know, like I said, a better pro and just 399 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 3: to you know, learn from mistakes faster than you know 400 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: last year self correction. 401 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: It's a huge step, I. 402 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: Would think, like I said, just knowing what you did 403 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: wrong first and just being accountable and just be like, yeah, coach, 404 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: that's on me, and just you know, taking that on 405 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: the chin and just you know, how can I keep 406 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: getting better? For this is a long season count preseason 407 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: and regular season, that's twenty games each week, you just 408 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: have to die. You just have to basically dive in 409 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: and just be honest with yourself. And I've been honest 410 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: with myself and just realizing that though you know, although 411 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: I may have had a good game, but I know 412 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: there's more left than I know I can play better. 413 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: So that's a natural segue to this because in training camp, 414 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: your offensive line coach Scott Peters said the following he 415 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: was talking about your great physical gifts and he said, 416 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: you have to be greedy about how good you want 417 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: to be. It's not good enough to block people. You 418 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: have to dominate them. Is that the approach you're taking? 419 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: What you just said, Man, Scott talk about it all 420 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: the time, and it's just you know, I can win 421 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 3: a rep easy, I feel like, but can I dominate 422 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: that rep? Can that be teach tape like a teach 423 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 3: tape rep? And That's what I'm working towards. You know, 424 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: I see a lot of guys who who we show 425 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: a lot of, just like around the league, just the Pinasus, 426 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 3: the Lane Johnson's and the Trent Williams. You know how 427 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: they have those big splash plays and all that good stuff. 428 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: And those guys have been around the league for a minute, 429 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 3: and you know, I want to get to that point 430 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: when they around you're four or five and just like 431 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: trying to build those habits now, so you know, it 432 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: just comes natural. 433 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: We're chatting with the Marius Mems. I'm no expert in 434 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: offensive line play, but when I hear Scott Peters talk, 435 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: it sounds a little bit different to me. Is it 436 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: different from the way you've been coached before? 437 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: Yes, it's different in the whole scheme and just the 438 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 3: whole body movements and the whole basically technique technique stuff. 439 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: I think it's a good thing, just like learning new stuff, 440 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 3: because now you have a bigger toolbox to you know, 441 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: like to basically to use and you know, out there 442 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: with guys who are great athletes themselves. So I feel 443 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 3: like the more you like, the more you expand your toolbox, 444 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: the more you can like you know, dive into the 445 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: game and get like a deeper understanding. And then he's 446 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: done a great job and just explain those new techniques 447 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: to us, because like I said, it's a whole new 448 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: technique from what we were doing last year. So I 449 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 3: feel like he's done a good job and just harping 450 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: on just like getting better at those techniques, so we 451 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: can you know, build our basically way we call the toolbox, 452 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 3: So we can build our toolbox and just go out 453 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 3: there and you know, play more free, but also play 454 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: with more technique and play more technically sound. 455 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: Ted Carris was miked up during the game last week, 456 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: and we could hear him say over and over again, 457 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: me and you mimsy, me and you mimsy. Describe your 458 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: relationship with Ted and what you respect about him. 459 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: I just respect like the man he is and how 460 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: he comes to work every day being the same guy 461 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 3: I get. I'm gonna know, I'm gonna get the same 462 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: ted every day. And then too, I feel like he's 463 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 3: a great leader. He leads our team. I don't care 464 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: what anybody say. He's one of the best. Like I said, 465 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: best humans and best leaders I've been around my whole life. 466 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: And like I said, as if you see how hard 467 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: he practices through pain and all, and just like I've 468 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: never seen him like really take a rep off. It's 469 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: just it's just like doesn't happen. And that's something you like, 470 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: you want him the leader, and like it's something I 471 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: respect honestly, and I would want to one to throw 472 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: a wall for that guy. So it's like he leaves 473 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: us in the in the meeting rooms, he leaves us 474 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: in the walkthroughs, he leaves us out the tunnel, he 475 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: leaves us in everything. So I mean, I respect him, 476 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 3: I respect him as a man. As a teammate, you know, 477 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: I'm just glad to be his team. Like I said, 478 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: I always got your back when he was on pat 479 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 3: the last one was gonna go win the game. And 480 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: feeling like you got my back. I was like, kind 481 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: of question is that you know that? 482 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: Come on now, imri issue recently turned twenty three. You're 483 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: in your second NFL season, and yet on this offensive 484 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: line right now, you're something of a vet. The guards 485 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: are both rookies or at least in some games still 486 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: Unfairchild and Jalen Rivers have both started. Do you feel 487 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: like the three of you can be the nucleus of 488 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: this offensive line for years to come? 489 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 3: I do. I do feel that way, and I know 490 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: I try. I trusted the like I said Zach, I 491 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: trusted coach Pitch. I trust trusting MO line coach, and 492 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: I trusted everybody like putting a good play together to 493 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 3: develop that like I said, we have. I feel like 494 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: we have a good old line from left to right tackle. 495 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 3: And it's just a matter of, like, you know, can 496 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: those young guys step up and be what they are? 497 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: You know? And like I said, I'm one of those 498 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 3: young guys. And it's just we just have to just 499 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: basically put in our mind every day that like we 500 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: want to get better and continue to get better so 501 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: we can like earn the respect of our peers who 502 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: who who've like been there and done that, and they like, Okay, 503 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: those guys are ready. Those guys could be the next 504 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: guys to come over and take over the Bengals for 505 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 3: the next five to ten years, however long it is. 506 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: So you know, that's something I continue to work on 507 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 3: every day and I continue to ask myself like that 508 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 3: I do enough today, and then you know that I like, 509 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: do I do enough to you know, like, Okay, I 510 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 3: know MAM's gonna give us one hundred percent, you know, 511 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: this game or this play, however it is. And I 512 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: want to be, you know, known for that. I really, 513 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: I really do believe, like I said me Dylan and Jalen, 514 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 3: can you know, be the future of this whole line. 515 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: I really do believe that. 516 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: What's impressed you about your new old quarterback everything? 517 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 3: Man, he's just a pro. He's been around the block, 518 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: He's done it. It's just crazy how patient, how calm is. 519 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: Nothing seems to overwhelm him. It's just like when I 520 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: just I just look at it like this one and 521 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: walkthroughs and wearing wear in a huddle, it's almost like 522 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 3: you know, Coach Jack is giving him the play call, 523 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: but it's almost like I know it already, like before 524 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: he gets done with it, he spits it out before 525 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: he can get done, and just like like I look 526 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: at it as a big deal. Some people like just whatever, 527 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: but I look at it like this dude are bad. 528 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: He cares. He like he studies, and he like he's 529 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: a he's like he's trying to master the game. And 530 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: he's the one that has probably mastered the game because 531 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: he's seen everything. He's seen every look possible. I feel 532 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: like eighteen years in the league, there's nothing you haven't seen. 533 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: There's not a formation you haven't been in, There's not 534 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: a play you haven't ran. So he came in the 535 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: league when I was four years old, so I grew 536 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 3: I grew up watching him, so like that was like 537 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: Ravens in the I'm just being honest with I grew 538 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: up watching him in Big Ben go at It and 539 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: that was like the game, always like watching. So it's 540 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: just crazy being in the Hoddle like you know him, 541 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: like him being my quarterback, and it's like, you know, 542 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: it's like almost like I'm living in the dream still. 543 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 3: So we like, like I said, we're rolling with him, 544 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: and you know, I'm just I'm just glad to be 545 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: a part of it. Man, I'm just glad to you know, 546 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: I can go out here and take them on Sundays, 547 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: Mondays and Thursdays whatever we play. 548 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: So you know, all right, it Sunday this week the 549 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: Jets are oh and seven. That the only winless team 550 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: in the league. It's human nature to assume that the 551 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: Bengals are going to win the game. How do you 552 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: ensure that you and everybody else in that locker room 553 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: does not take the opponent lightly? 554 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 3: Man, Never take an opponent of the NFL likely. Man, I 555 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: know that. I know from just being an office alnement. 556 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: Just like knowing the guys they have on defense. Man, 557 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: they have one of the best, if not the best 558 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: d tackling the NFL. Quinn Williams. Everybody know that name. 559 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 3: They got will McDonald, Jermaine Johnson, all those guys on there. 560 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: Those are three or their four guys on the starting 561 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 3: the D line or for a first round picks for 562 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: a reason. So, like I said, I respect them, I 563 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: respect the old defense. I respect the team. Like I said, 564 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: they may have came up short some games, but like 565 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: I said, that's that's a that's a dang good football team. 566 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: I don't care if you if you're if you're an NFL, 567 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: I don't care who you're playing, no matter what the 568 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: record is. Never take a team likely. Man. That's the 569 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 3: That's how you go out there and your beat and 570 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: our approach is the same every week. Go out there 571 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: with the same mentality to win mentality. And that's what 572 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: we're gonna do. Man, We're gonna go out there with 573 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: the same mentality. And you know, like I said, hopefully, 574 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: well play clean, clean four quarter game and you know, 575 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: hopefully we can get to win. But you know we're 576 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: we're treating this like we treated it last week and 577 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: just going out their head down, you know, practicing hard 578 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: and just no matter the record, just go out there 579 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: and play winning football. 580 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm Marius. I noticed something in the Thursday night game. 581 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: You were wearing gloves. Did you finally find gloves that 582 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: are big enough for those massive hands? 583 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: Say this, they're not big enough. But they're five X gloves. 584 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: They're not big enough. But if I take the edges 585 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: of where they're like the crack of my hand is, 586 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: you can't tell. So but yes, I am wearing gloves now, 587 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: but no, they're not big enough. So if somebody makes 588 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: some six gloves some six X gloves out there. Please 589 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: let me know because five exes are not working. 590 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: You weren't wearing gloves the week before against Green Day. 591 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: Was this the first time? 592 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: Yes, the first time I wore gloves really since it 593 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: got like last year I wore one of them broke 594 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: my hand. But other than that, yeah, that's the first 595 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: time I wore glove. 596 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. Enjoy those almost big enough. 597 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: Gloves, Yes, sir, I appreciate it. 598 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, MIM's hands were measured at eleven 599 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: and a quarter inches at last year's combine, the largest 600 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: of Eddie offensive lineman in the class. 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The Bengals faced 607 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: the New York Jets on Sunday, a team that's still 608 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: looking for its first win under new head coach Aaron Glenn. 609 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: Earlier this week, Jets owner Woody Johnson defended his coach 610 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: and ripped his quarterback justin Fields, what's. 611 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: Your confidence level? 612 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: And Aaron to turn it around? 613 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 8: It looks like he's turning around parts of it. 614 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: You know. 615 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 8: It's hard when you have a quarterback with you know, okay, 616 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 8: with a rating that we've got, you know is I 617 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 8: mean he has stability, but something just. 618 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 3: Is not jibing. 619 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 8: But if you look at any head coach of the 620 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 8: quarterback like that, you're going to see similar results if 621 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 8: you will across the league. 622 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: You have to play. 623 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 8: Consistently at that position, and that's what we're going to 624 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 8: try to do. 625 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: In the remainder of the season. 626 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: So someone gives you hope, then send you a home. 627 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 8: I just think defense special teams are doing better. Defense 628 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 8: is pretty good. But we can just complete a pass, 629 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 8: it would look good. 630 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: Yikes. Fields was benched at halftime last week in favor 631 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: of thirty six year old Tyrod Taylor, and neither QB 632 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: was able to lead the team to a touchdown and 633 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: a thirteen to six loss to Carolina. So who will 634 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: start on Sunday again, Cincinnati? We put that question to 635 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: my former Syracuse University classmate Rich Semini, who covers the 636 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: Jets for ESPN, when he joined Dave Lapham and me 637 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: on the Bengals Game Plan show. 638 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 7: I think it'll be Tyrod Taylor. You know that was 639 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 7: the indications I was getting yesterday. I think I'm sure 640 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 7: you guys know Aeron Glenn did not announce that today. 641 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 7: He's playing the coach game. You know, he's doing the 642 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 7: old competitive advantage, trying to keep the Bengals in the 643 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 7: dark as long as possible. They split the practice reps 644 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 7: today from what I've been told, But I'd be shocked 645 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 7: if on Sunday Tyrod Taylor is not the quarterback. I 646 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 7: think they're trending in that direction. 647 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 9: So is it all quarterback play? I mean, the reason 648 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 9: that Jets have not won a football game yet and 649 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 9: staring at an oh and seven record, has it been 650 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 9: the quarterback play has been that ineffective? Or is it 651 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 9: a combination of man we have not supported the quarterback either. 652 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 9: I mean, there's no position group on the football team 653 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 9: that can raise their hand and say we're doing our job. 654 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 9: We're playing as effectively and efficiently as we as we 655 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 9: could and should. Is it a group effort in terms 656 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 9: of do you own seven mark or is it more 657 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 9: or on the quarterback play? 658 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 7: Well, if you ask the owner, Woody Johnson, he would 659 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 7: say it's the quarterback play. He basically threw Justin Fields 660 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 7: under the bus yesterday when we approached him at the 661 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 7: league meetings, and he, you know, he just really dumped 662 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 7: on Fields, which I mean what he said was not untrue. 663 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 7: I mean, Fields is not having a good year. This 664 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 7: team has gone They've only scored six touchdowns in the 665 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 7: last six games, and so they are really really struggling offensively. 666 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 7: So yeah, I would say quarterback plays a big part 667 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 7: of it. But early in the year, for the first 668 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 7: five games, the defense was horrible. I mean they were 669 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 7: given up over thirty points a game. So they've been 670 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 7: taking turns, which I think bad teams usually do. And 671 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 7: now the defense has settled down. The defense has actually 672 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 7: played two good games in a row against Carolina and Denver, 673 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 7: but now the offense can't get it out of its 674 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 7: own way, two streat games without a touchdown. But I 675 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 7: would say quarterback play is a big part of the issue, 676 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 7: which is why I believe Justin Fields is probably going 677 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 7: to the bench. 678 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: Rich Simani covers the Jets for ESPN talking to some 679 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: of the Bengals offensive linemen this week. They all rave 680 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: about the Jets defensive front featuring three first round draft 681 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: picks and Quinn Williams, Well McDonald and Jermaine Johnson. How 682 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: well have those three guys been playing. 683 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 7: Well? They don't really have the stats dan to back 684 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 7: it up. Quinn Williams is their best defensive player, and 685 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 7: I think he's only at one stack so far. He 686 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 7: gets double teamed a lot, but he's still a good 687 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 7: player even though he's not going to jump off the 688 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 7: stat sheet. The other guys. Jermaine Johnson's really helped them 689 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 7: the last two games he missed through I think it 690 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 7: was three games with a high ankle spring. He comes 691 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 7: back two weeks ago, and it's not a coincidence that 692 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 7: the defense started playing better when he came back two 693 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 7: weeks ago. And Will McDonald's purely like a pass rushing guy, 694 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 7: an edge player, an undersized guy who can definitely be 695 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 7: floyded against the run, but can bring pressure off the edge. 696 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 7: I would say as a group, they're probably underachieving so far. 697 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 7: The talent is certainly there, but I just think they 698 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 7: have not been able to generate consistent pressure on the quarterback. 699 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 9: Watching tape and talking to people in the Cincinnati Bengals organization, 700 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 9: they've watched a hell of a lot more tape than 701 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 9: I have watching games. They say that defensively, the stud 702 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 9: is Quentin Williams. Offensively, it's Garrett Wilson. Do you agree 703 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 9: with that assessment? 704 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: I do. 705 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 7: I think pound for pound, Quinnin Williams is their best 706 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 7: defensive player. You know, he's a former first team off ro. 707 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 7: Now Sauce Gardner gets a lot of the accolades, but 708 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 7: I do not believe Sauce Gardner will play in this 709 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 7: game on Soday, he's in the concussion protocol, and so offensively, 710 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 7: Garrett Wilson, I do believe is probably their best offensive player. Now, 711 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 7: there's a good chance he may not play in this game. 712 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 7: He did not practice again today. He's dealing with the 713 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 7: knee injury that kept him out on Sunday. They're saying 714 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 7: day to day. However, I am a little skeptical about 715 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 7: his chances. The Jets have the bye week right after Cincinnati, 716 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 7: so I think there's a sense in the organization that, hey, 717 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 7: we'll just let him sit out this game and then 718 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 7: have him come out of the bye week feeling one 719 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 7: hundred percent. So yeah, that's you know, a soft Gardner 720 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 7: and Garrett Wilson, of two of their best players aren't there. 721 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 7: It's going to be tough for them on Sunday. 722 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Rich, when Jamar Chase or T Higgins has to 723 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: miss a game, the Bengals have the other guy, plus 724 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: some other pretty good weapons. When Garrett Wilson is out. 725 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: How's that receiving core for the Jets. 726 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 7: They're receiving core for the Jets looks like a maybe, 727 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 7: like what does Syracuse University receiving corps look like in 728 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 7: nineteen eighty five? 729 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: You know, it's just. 730 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 7: Not good, Dan, it's you know, it's Garrett is a 731 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 7: sensational player. I mean, he's clearly their their wide receiver one, 732 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 7: but after that there is a steep drop off. Josh 733 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 7: Reynolds would be their number two. I guess he is 734 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 7: really more of a probably a four or five. They 735 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 7: have Alan Lazard, He's probably a four or five. What 736 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 7: I'm saying is they really do not have a perimeter threat. 737 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 7: They have a young guy, Arian Smith, a draft pick 738 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 7: from Georgia who's probably the fastest guy on the team. 739 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 7: I mean just he's a blur out there. But they 740 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 7: never throw him the ball because he's never opened and 741 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 7: you know when they do, he drops it. So yeah, long, 742 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 7: long answer to a question is that, Yeah, when alt 743 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 7: Garrett Wilson, they are probably the worst receiving core in 744 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 7: the league. 745 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 9: What about the running game, I've always been a fan 746 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 9: of Breise Hall. The coaches again, in talking to them 747 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 9: a little bit, and players as well, defensive players that 748 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 9: have studied the Jets, like we talked about earlier, they 749 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 9: they're a fan of Breess Hall. They think he's a 750 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 9: pretty damn good running back. They think he can do everything. 751 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 9: They think that, you know, he can make people miss, 752 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 9: great lateral quickness, he can catch the ball out of 753 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 9: the backfield, you know again, make you miss there, get 754 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 9: yards after catch. And then interestingly and importantly, he sticks 755 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 9: his nose right in there in the chest of linebackers 756 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 9: and is an excellent blitz pickup guy. Is their assessment 757 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 9: pretty accurate in your opinion? 758 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, that actually is a pretty good scouting report on 759 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 7: Breese Halts. He is having a good year. I mean, 760 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 7: if you look at his numbers, you know he's having 761 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 7: a good year. They don't use him enough in the 762 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 7: passing game. It's kind of been one of the mysteries here. 763 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 7: I think he's such a good receiver. A couple of 764 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 7: years ago he had seventy five catches and he let 765 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 7: all running backs, and now they don't really use him 766 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 7: that much. The Jets do not throw screen passes to 767 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 7: the running backs, which is always another mystery. It would 768 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 7: be a great way to slow down a good pass 769 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 7: rushing team, and yet they don't really do that. So 770 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 7: but they do have a good running game. Their entire 771 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 7: offense is built on being a good running team. Now 772 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 7: when they have justin Fields in there. In Week one, 773 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 7: they look dynamic against Pittsburgh with Fields running some zone 774 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 7: reads and some RPOs and Breeze Hall running out of 775 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 7: the backfield and Brayln Allen. It's like, my gosh, this 776 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 7: looks like a pretty good offense. But they've never been 777 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 7: able to recapture what they had in Week one. I 778 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 7: think teams adjusted to what they've been doing and stopping 779 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 7: them on first and second down, and when you get 780 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 7: them in third and long, they're just not equipped to 781 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 7: be a third and long type passing team. For all 782 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 7: the reasons we discussed a moment Ago Rich. 783 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: My final question has to do with the quarterback the 784 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: Jets will be facing this Sunday, former Jet Joe Flacco, 785 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: who spent three years with New York when he was 786 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: still a youngster between the ages of thirty five and 787 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: thirty seven. Having covered him for three years, what do 788 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: you think of this renaissance and the fact that suddenly 789 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: Bengals fans are have their chests out with pride and 790 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: optimism that Joe Flacco is their quarterback. Yeah. 791 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 7: I watched the game last week and it was it 792 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 7: was fun watching two ex Jet forty year old quarterbacks 793 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 7: go at each other with Rogers and Blacko and Flacco 794 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 7: is he's the guy with nine lives. You know, it's 795 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 7: unbelievable how he's been able to last in this league. 796 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 7: His arm is obviously still really good. You know, he 797 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 7: doesn't move, but you know he never really could, even 798 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 7: in his hey day with Baltimore. But I think it's 799 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 7: great he's doing what he did in Cleveland. You know, 800 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 7: as you recall a couple of years ago, what he 801 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 7: did for Cleveland, he injected hope and to that team. 802 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 7: He looks like he's doing the same in Cincinnati, and 803 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 7: I think the Jets are going to be I don't know. 804 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 7: I'll have to get our stat people to look this up. 805 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 7: When's the last time a team lost to two forty 806 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 7: year old quarterbacks in the same year, because I think 807 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 7: that'll probably happen on Sunday. The Jets lost to Aaron 808 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 7: Rodgers in Week one, and I think they'll probably lose 809 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 7: to Flacco on Sunday. But he had no when he 810 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 7: was with the Jets, Dan he didn't really have much 811 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 7: success because the team around him was just so poor 812 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 7: and they were so poorly coached, so he never really 813 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 7: had He had one moment against Cleveland when he led 814 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 7: him back on a miraculous comeback in the last couple 815 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 7: of minutes, and that was really about it, and it 816 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 7: didn't look great. But you know, he's a guy who's persevered, 817 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 7: and I'm really happy for Joe. He's a good guy boy. 818 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 9: Back in the day, Paul Brown used to say, beware, 819 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 9: this football team has an own seven record, but they 820 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,919 Speaker 9: are not an own seven football team. Do you think 821 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 9: that the New York Jets are better than their own 822 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 9: seven record? 823 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 7: You know, that's a that's a fascinating question, because if 824 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 7: you look at their roster they do have some very 825 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 7: good players. I mean, we've talked about them, Garrett Wilson 826 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 7: and Breise Hall. And their offensive line has a couple 827 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 7: of good players, and Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams and 828 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 7: Jamie Sure what's a good linebacker. The two edge rushers 829 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 7: Johnson and McDonald. So they have good players. They just 830 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 7: haven't put it together, which is just the sign of 831 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 7: a bad team. Like I said, the defense has played 832 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 7: well the last two weeks. The special teams have played 833 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 7: well the last couple of weeks. Their punter a guy 834 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 7: who was in Cincinnati, Austin McNamara. He's one of the 835 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 7: best punters in the league right now. And Nick Folk 836 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 7: is a terrific kicker. So they have some components of 837 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 7: a winning team. But it just never shows up on 838 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 7: the same Sunday. And they might go out Sunday and 839 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 7: their offense might put up like twenty eight points and 840 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 7: the defense will just. 841 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 3: Have a bad day. 842 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 7: It's been that kind of year for the Jets, So 843 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 7: I understand what the Bengals are coming from. Zach Taylor's 844 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 7: probably like selling the Jets. This is not an O 845 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 7: and seventeen, but they are to seven for a reason 846 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 7: they just self destruct and too many self inflicted bolls. 847 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: Our thanks to rich Smani and here's a quick invitation 848 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: to join lapp in me for the Bengals pep Rally 849 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: show this week. We'll be at the on the Rhine 850 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: Eatery on the second floor above the downtown Kroger on 851 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: Friday from three to six and our special guest in 852 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: the final hour will be running back Chase Brown. 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