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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever

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Speaker 1: to walk the planet. Okay, sure, here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: He's a true icon in every sense of the word.

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Speaker 3: He's loved and feared more than any being.

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Speaker 1: To Grace's plummet, there's got a bad with a voice

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Speaker 1: that sounds like very white and be.

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Speaker 2: Got say hey, let you with baby.

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Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo.

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Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is, you are about to embark

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Speaker 1: on a transcendent experience that can only be described as

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Speaker 1: psychological nudity.

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Speaker 3: This is and this is stupidity. Here we go jump,

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Speaker 3: Holy God, bless stupidity. Billy, Why why are you starting

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Speaker 3: like this? Because I'm confused. I don't know what I'm

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Speaker 3: doing so many podcasts, I don't know what I'm doing anymore.

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Speaker 3: To be quite honest with you, I'm excited for you today,

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Speaker 3: Stu Gatts.

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Speaker 4: Why is that because we're going to have on a

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Speaker 4: guest that you have been teasing us behind the scenes

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Speaker 4: with for about a month now, in Mike Greenberg. So

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Speaker 4: Greeney's going to join us today. And and to be

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Speaker 4: honest with you, I was a little bit I was

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Speaker 4: a little bit worried for you, because we've wanted Greenee

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Speaker 4: on since the Aaron Rodgers situation with the Jets, and

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Speaker 4: at first it was, well, wait until he's on the

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Speaker 4: Jets and then I'll go on. And then he said

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Speaker 4: that he was going to be on the Jets, but

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Speaker 4: he wasn't on the Jets and he still wasn't on,

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Speaker 4: and it's been a couple of weeks since then, and

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Speaker 4: you know, then he had a procedure and he's doing.

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Speaker 3: Fine, thankfully.

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Speaker 4: But I was getting worried because I think in the

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Speaker 4: time that he's been telling you, well, let me just

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Speaker 4: wait a little bit longer, He's been on mcafeel like

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Speaker 4: four times, so I was like, is two guys just

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Speaker 4: getting the run around here?

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Speaker 3: So you feel like the friendship has waned a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Like I was a little worried, and if I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: be entirely honest, I was also a little worried that

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Speaker 4: last week you got the old switcheroo because Hembo was

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Speaker 4: on earlier this week and there was a conversation of

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Speaker 4: let's have Hembo and Greeney on together, and then it

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Speaker 4: became just Hembo, and I was like, oh, boy, this

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Speaker 4: sounds like it's maybe a Stu Gots that was just

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Speaker 3: But we got Greenie today. I listen, I thought about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you, Okay, I was. I

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Speaker 3: was thinking about it. Does Greenie hate me? Wow? But

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Speaker 3: I am Listen, I'm confident in my friendship with with

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Speaker 3: Mike Greenberg, and it's Master's week. Really. The truth is,

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Speaker 3: what Greeny and I were trying to do is wait

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Speaker 3: for the Jets to make an official with Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: and then we could celebrate and talk about it. But

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Speaker 3: we realized that day has it come yet, and it

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Speaker 3: may never come. They never yet exactly, and so we

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Speaker 3: just decided, hey, let's do it. We'll talk about it.

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Speaker 3: I've been telling him Greeney, I'm disappointed at him for

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Speaker 3: celebrating prematurely because the Rogers thing. As I told you guys,

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Speaker 3: the that you wanted me to celebrate on our show,

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Speaker 3: I'm not celebrating ship until he does it in front

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Speaker 3: And so, but we do get Greedy today. I am

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Speaker 4: I mean, we do get Andy Roddick. That's going to

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Speaker 4: be a fun interview. You didn't great.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that one later. Greeny's got a new

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Speaker 3: book out with Hembo. We had Hembo Water earlier this week,

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Speaker 3: and Billy is right, Mike Yea and I were doing

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Speaker 3: Hembo and I'm thinking this is going to be it

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Speaker 3: that he was fantastic, but you know, Hembo for me,

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Speaker 3: wrong way. He's not going to hear this. Don't worry

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Speaker 3: about it. He was a bridge to greedy. Wow. Wow,

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Speaker 3: did you call it the top three producer you've ever had?

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Speaker 3: I did, Yeah, there's forty. Let's get to uh, let's

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Speaker 3: get to my friend, I think, Mike Greenberg and talk

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Speaker 3: about his new book, The Jets and the Masters. Mike,

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Speaker 3: we were debating right before you came on, whether or

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Speaker 3: not you're I believe you're a Yankee fan, right, yes

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Speaker 3: you are. How do you feel? Because Billy and I

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Speaker 3: have been advocates of speeding up the game, making the

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Speaker 3: we arrived at faster games. Baseball it needs to slow

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. There was a one ten

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Speaker 2: Well, no, The answer to that is the answer is

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Speaker 2: those will be few and far between. But when the

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Speaker 2: traditionalist fans of baseball say the beauty of the sport

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Speaker 2: is that it is untimed, that is the reality. The

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Speaker 2: game ends when someone has recorded twenty seven out. The

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Speaker 2: untimed nature of it never referred to a pitch clock

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Speaker 2: of play. The pace of play should not slow down.

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Speaker 2: We do not live in a slow paced society, and

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Speaker 2: So the fact that you don't have anything else to

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Speaker 3: Billy, how do you feel about that response. Eh, you know, no,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. How do you feel about it?

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously they're not going to sit on baseball

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Speaker 4: feel like, Mike, how about this take? Try try this

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Speaker 4: take on for size. I feel like, now prices for

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Speaker 3: I feel like maybe we should lower prices or you're.

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Speaker 2: Getting the same amount of baseball. However, you're just getting

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Speaker 2: ask the question, Billy, Yeah, do you miss people scratching

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Speaker 2: just say this, this is the first time in my

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Speaker 4: I think we miss the ability to not miss anything,

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Speaker 3: I haven't missed anything.

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Speaker 2: See, now they're doing something you actually have to pay attention. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: your laptop. It won't interfere with anything else you're doing,

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Speaker 2: but it's just nice to have something so it's not silent.

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Speaker 2: That's what baseball was. That's a terrible description of an

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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna find very My guess is you're

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Speaker 3: It's the one thing, Mike, like, everyone's so rush these

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Speaker 3: That was the one sport where you know what, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but again that's right, you're right. Old people like us.

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Speaker 2: You know, you and I Stu, we have kids the

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Speaker 2: start with this. They definitely don't want to spend five

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Speaker 3: You're right. Listen. I took my daughters to a baseball

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Speaker 2: I told them, all right, guys, we're gonna put our

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Speaker 3: You can only entertain them so long.

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Speaker 2: I can't argue for this, like I can't argue in

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Speaker 2: You know, the game is better. I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 2: not that this should be your concern and it isn't mine,

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Speaker 2: but the I think that the level of interest in it,

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Speaker 3: Agreed. Yeah, Mike Greenberg has a new book, AUP Got

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Speaker 3: Your Number. We had Hambo on earlier this week. He's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I love how much he's grown up. He's very confident now.

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting that Hembo allowed you to attach your

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Speaker 3: why do you just it's your first sports book, which

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Speaker 3: I was surprised to realize what you pointed that out,

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Speaker 3: But why do you guys decide to write this book?

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you did. Why'd you guys decide to write it? So?

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Speaker 2: The reason I've never written a sports book before very

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Speaker 2: Like you know, you've been doing radio like me for

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Speaker 2: whatever it is, thirty years. You need a good A

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Speaker 2: requires a lot more than that. I just never had one.

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Speaker 2: And then one day we're sitting around doing the after

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Speaker 2: We decided to see if we could name the placekicker

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Speaker 3: My hard feelings. We love the guy. He gave us

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Speaker 2: departure from Cleveland was you know, a pr nightmare. It

433
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Speaker 2: was if that's the worst thing you ever do in

434
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Speaker 2: your life, obviously you've led a pretty good life, but

435
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Speaker 2: it was a messy situation. It is my belief that

436
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 2: Lebron James is the most picked apart immortal, the most

437
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Speaker 2: criticized sports immortal of all time. And the primary reason

438
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Speaker 2: for that, I believe is that he is the first

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Speaker 2: immortal of the social media era. He's the first true

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Speaker 2: sports immortal whose career began in the era of sports media,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, in the era of social media, and that

442
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Speaker 2: I think has led. It has changed the way sports

443
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Speaker 2: are discussed, the way they are debated, the way the

444
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Speaker 2: players are dissected, the way they are treated. I can

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Speaker 2: tell you from first hand experience because I was there

446
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Speaker 2: covering his career that if Michael Jordan had been dissected,

447
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: if his every waking moment had been dissected in the

448
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: way that Lebron James's has been, Michael would have handled

449
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: it ten thousand times worse than Kevin Durant has. You

450
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: think Durant fires back at people on Twitter, Michael Jordan

451
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: would get mad at people who didn't actually say anything.

452
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Speaker 2: So I believe that Lebron, in the scheme of things,

453
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Speaker 2: is I believe has been to some degree undervalued and underappreciated.

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Speaker 2: And so in that respect, we wound up giving him

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Speaker 2: the number eighty four, which was the year he was born,

456
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Speaker 2: because that I think signifies as much as anything why

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Speaker 2: he has been treated the way he was treated. If

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Speaker 2: you just picked up his career and moved it back

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Speaker 2: twenty years, if somehow he had his career twenty years before,

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Speaker 2: I think he would be viewed very differently than the

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Speaker 2: way he is now.

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Speaker 3: It feels like your shoehorn Lebron in there, I gotta

463
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Speaker 3: be a little bit yeah, I understand what you did

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Speaker 3: and why you did it. I'm just saying, and there's

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Speaker 3: no waighty four us to argue, so, I you're good, Well,

466
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Speaker 3: it feels like a shoehorn four.

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Speaker 2: But he felt better than that. I did not feel.

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Speaker 2: Let's put it this way. If you do this book

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Speaker 2: and you've got some of the athletes that are in it,

470
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Speaker 2: and I'm just looking over the list, and I mean

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Speaker 2: there are some, you know, they're all all time greats

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Speaker 2: in their own right, but Lebron James is an upper

473
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Speaker 2: echelon all time great right. I mean you're talking about

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Speaker 2: the greatest player of his era, the greatest legend in

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Speaker 2: American sports during his era, on everyone's list, a top

476
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Speaker 2: five NBA player all time, and some people will argue

477
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Speaker 2: that he's number one. To do this book and not

478
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Speaker 2: find a way to include him, I think would have

479
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Speaker 2: just felt incomplete.

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Speaker 3: All right, Your hope is, first off, the book's such

481
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: a great idea, because what you want is me to

482
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Speaker 3: read it, me to have a discussion with my dad

483
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Speaker 3: and us to disagree with you, like that's ultimately what

484
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Speaker 3: it and that's that's what it's all about, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or to disagree with each other and for everyone to disagree. Look,

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Speaker 2: I went on a bunch of I'm doing, you know,

487
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Speaker 2: a bunch of sports talk shows over the you know,

488
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Speaker 2: the course of this week and whatnot promoting it. And

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Speaker 2: my favorite thing that anyone said to me was this

490
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Speaker 2: guy said to me, Greenny, thanks for all the content

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Speaker 2: you're giving me during my dead times of year, because

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Speaker 2: you could just pick up this these arguments and have

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Speaker 2: them anytime you want. Four is a great one. Four

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Speaker 2: here we go, Billy.

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Speaker 4: You're bringing people together by tearing them apart, Greenie, I

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Speaker 4: love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I do.

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Speaker 3: Yet it's what me and Billy do too, and we

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Speaker 3: love you and we're glad that you did it. Number

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Speaker 3: four is gonna be interesting, like, all right, give us

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Speaker 3: the number fours here.

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Speaker 2: Lou, Garrick, Brett, Bobby.

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Speaker 3: Or all right, So this is one of the ones

504
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Speaker 3: Hembo did. Ask us. I'll let you know. But but

505
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Speaker 3: Billy was not here for Hembo, so so hold on, Mike.

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Speaker 3: He also did thirty two and yeah, yeah, but I

507
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Speaker 3: played it well for him. You know that I played

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Speaker 3: it off well, Billy. Billy complimented another direct message there.

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Speaker 3: I know Mikey has going Garrick to the Yankee fan.

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Speaker 3: What were the other two choicest Farv and Bobby or yeah,

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Speaker 3: it should be Gerk. I know you didn't go with

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Speaker 3: Garrick Billy who really? Wow, I would have gone with

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Speaker 3: he died, Mike, I mean, how do.

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Speaker 2: You well, well, I understand what circumstances were different, and

515
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Speaker 2: yes that I think if you asked me, the hardest

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Speaker 2: thing to do was to not give him number four,

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Speaker 2: because I think there's no question more people associate him

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Speaker 2: with the number for than they do Bobby Orr. And

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Speaker 2: there is no question that despite the fact that Luke

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Speaker 2: Garret has been dead for eighty years and Bobby Orr

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00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: is still alive, more people know of lu gerrig and

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00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: the legend. He is inarguably the greater legend. But remember

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Speaker 2: when I told you that when we were doing twenty one,

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Speaker 2: I thought that the difference between the players was this.

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Speaker 2: In this case, the difference between the players is bigger

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Speaker 2: than that. Bobby Or is the second greatest hockey player

527
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Speaker 2: that ever lived. There's Wayne Gretzky and then there's Bobby Or.

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Speaker 2: It's not Mary Olemu, it's not Mark Messie, it's not

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Speaker 2: Gordy Haw, it is Bobby Orr. And the numbers that

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Speaker 2: the research that what I did was I these ones

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Speaker 2: that were so tough to decide. I said Heimbo. I mean,

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Speaker 2: let's go get some Let's go get some numbers and

533
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Speaker 2: figure out how we want to do this. I don't

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Speaker 2: even know where to begin with Bobby Orr here, Abby or.

535
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Speaker 2: There are four major awards, right honors you can win

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Speaker 2: in hockey, the Art Ross, the Heart, the Norris and

537
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Speaker 2: the con Smith Trophies. He's the only player in history

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Speaker 2: to win all four of them. He won all of

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Speaker 2: them at least twice one year. He won all four

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Speaker 2: of them in the same year.

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Speaker 3: Amazing.

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Speaker 2: No one else has ever won all four of them

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Speaker 2: in their career. He won all four of them in

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Speaker 2: a year one time. Bobby ware is his stature as

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Speaker 2: a player and the fact that he completely transformed the

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Speaker 2: sport by doing what he did from his position. I

547
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Speaker 2: just couldn't not give him the recognition that he deserved

548
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Speaker 2: for his greatness, and just like anyone else, to leave

549
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Speaker 2: Lou Garrig out of this, considering everything was it was

550
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Speaker 2: the single hardest thing I think that we had to do.

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Speaker 3: Mike greenbergers with us. Got Your Number is the new book?

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Speaker 3: Check him out, Get up, of course, and greedy hashtag

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Speaker 3: Greedy ten to twelve ESPN Radio Billy go Ahead, yeah, something.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm trying to figure out the way I think

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Speaker 4: I'm on to how you play this game.

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Speaker 3: Did you give Wilt number one hundred?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we did. We did give Wilt number one you.

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Speaker 3: I love this.

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Speaker 2: If I asked you what number do you associate Wilt

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Speaker 2: Chamberlain with?

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Speaker 3: One hundred?

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Speaker 2: Were that question or ten? Yeah, that would be the second.

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Speaker 2: That's the next number would be third. His uniform number

564
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Speaker 2: would come well after both of those. I think if

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Speaker 2: you asked, you know, one hundred sports fans, what number

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Speaker 2: did Wil Chamberlain where I bet you less than half

567
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: of them could tell you. If you ask, well, those

568
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: those same people how many points did he score in

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Speaker 2: a single game, which still is the record to this day,

570
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: every one of them could tell you. So this one

571
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: was left. That choice was not about Wilt Chamberlain not

572
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Speaker 2: deserving the number thirteen, which we did give to Dan Marino.

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Speaker 2: You could argue Chamberlain over Marino if you wanted to.

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00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: That actually would have been a great debate, but we

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Speaker 2: didn't have to make it because we wanted to give

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Speaker 2: Chamberlain one hundred.

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Speaker 3: All right, and listen, I think best case scenario is

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Speaker 3: if a guy like Lebron reads the book, it says, Greedy,

579
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Speaker 3: what the hell you doing? You know, like, I don't

580
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: want any fret I want my number.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm arguing over the numbers. Well, if you

582
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Speaker 2: want me to take away twenty three from Michael Jordan's six, no,

583
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: he does. You got to call Adam Silver. He has

584
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: retired the number across the league in honor of Bill Russell.

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Speaker 3: Right, I want to get through a couple of things

586
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Speaker 3: with you, because I know you're a little bit short

587
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: on time, Greedy. I've been doing the radio show with

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Speaker 3: you for it's twenty years, and I could safely tell

589
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: you the only thing, the only thing that I've been

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Speaker 3: consistent about over those twenty years is this is my

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Speaker 3: favorite week on the sports calendar because it's Augusta, it

592
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Speaker 3: is the Masters, and I know you share a love

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Speaker 3: for this tournament the way I do. And so if

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Speaker 3: you could just describe for the audience, because people down

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Speaker 3: here in South Florida, they don't get it. They don't

596
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: understand why I lot this thing so much? Why do

597
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: you love this week? And why do you love that

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00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: tournament so much?

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Speaker 2: It's the worst I'm about to give you the worst

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Speaker 2: answer but there just is something magical about it. I mean,

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00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: there just is something about it that when they say

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Speaker 2: it's a tradition unlike any other, that's a corny line,

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00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: but it's also true. I do think that it has

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00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: a few things going for it. One of them is

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Speaker 2: the place that it falls on the calendar. And I

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00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: don't know if this is as significant to you living

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00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: in South Florida as it is to me, who have

608
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: lived my whole life either in New York or in Chicago,

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00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: but the coming of spring is a very big deal

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00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: in this part of the world. Yes, because you have

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Speaker 2: probably played one hundred rounds of golf since the last

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Speaker 2: time I played one, because I've been freezing my took

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00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: us off up here. Well you know, you're down there

614
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: pulling out your jacket when the temperature goes below sixty.

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00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 2: So that I think is part of it. The beauty

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00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 2: of the golf course, the history and the tradition, the

617
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: things that have happened there, the setup of the golf course,

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00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: the way all the other majors, particularly the US Open,

619
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Speaker 2: has it's so wrong. They think that we want to

620
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: see these guys melting down and falling apart and making

621
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Speaker 2: double bogies on the back nine. No, I want the

622
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: roar when someone makes a birdie on fifty excuse me,

623
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Speaker 2: makes an eagle on fifteen, and suddenly, instead of being

624
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: a three shot difference, it's a one shot difference. I

625
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: want to see who's going to hit in the water

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Speaker 2: on twelve. Who's going to remember? As I said in

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, the only year I was ever there covering

628
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: it was the year Tiger won. The freaking thing was,

629
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Speaker 2: who's going to remember that? You don't win the Masters

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Speaker 2: by making a two on twelve. You win the Masters

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Speaker 2: by not making a five. The single biggest rule on

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00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: Sunday at the Masters and so all the other tournaments,

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00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: the Majors and I guess the players is always on

634
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: the same course, but it just doesn't have the same feel,

635
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: the fact that you get it every single year. If

636
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: you pay attention to this, you know every shot. You

637
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: don't need the announcer to tell you. I love Jim Nansen,

638
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: I love it, But I don't need them to tell

639
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: me that don't do this here, don't do that here,

640
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: hit it. They are hit it here. This put's gonna

641
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: go break this way, because I already know because we've

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00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: all seen it five hundred times. The one thing I

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00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: will say that makes this year different. Right before you

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00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: and I got on the zoom here, I was looking

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00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: at a picture of the champions dinner, and which is

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00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: one of my favorite traditions in sports. And for those

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00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: who are listening and don't know what that is, there

648
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: was a dinner on the Tuesday night of Masters Week

649
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: that only the past champions are invited to when they

650
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: do it in honor of last year's champion. And so

651
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: this year that's Scotti Scheffler, and he gets design the

652
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: menu and it is just a freaking awesome trick. But

653
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: it looks different, Like I look at that picture and

654
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: you can't help but your eyes are looking for Mickelson,

655
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: and they're looking for Garcia, and they're looking for Dustin

656
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: and they're looking for Patrick Reid, and they're looking for

657
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: all of these live guys, you know, and many of

658
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: them are there because they're you know, those guys Bubba

659
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: Watson are all defending champions. This year is going to

660
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: have a decidedly different feel, I really think so. And

661
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: I don't yet know exactly what to expect that to be.

662
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: I know, I don't like it. I hate the divide

663
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: in the sport. I hate it. I hate it much

664
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: more than I Let's put this way, I don't blame

665
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: those guys for doing what they did, particularly guys like

666
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: Bubba Watson and Sergio Garcia and even Phil who have

667
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: done all the winning they're going to do on the

668
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: PGA Tour. Bubba Watson was never going to win another

669
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: PGA Tour event again, goes someplace where he's going to

670
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: make a thousand, a million times more money than he

671
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: was going to make otherwise, with infinitely less pressure to

672
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: do so, It's very hard for me to criticize a

673
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: person for doing it. But the chasm that it has

674
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: created in the sport, I hate it. I mean, it

675
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: kind of hurts me in a deep place and I

676
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: don't know how to expect that to manifest itself this week,

677
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: but I have no doubt that it will.

678
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: Mike, here's what I would tell you. I don't love

679
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 3: it as well, but I only care about the majors,

680
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: and so I don't care really about the valves bar open,

681
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: you know. I care about the four majors, and I

682
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: do think Bubba won it twice. I mean Dustin Johnson's

683
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: won the thing, and I'm glad that Augusta and the

684
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: majors have decided, Hey, you know what, if you want it,

685
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: you're coming back. Because those guys, oh yeah, they deserve

686
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 3: to be playing there.

687
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: Oh I totally agree. If it sounded like I was

688
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: saying they shouldn't be allowed to play, I don't mean that.

689
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: I'm glad they're playing. I do like every turnaut I

690
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: watch every week, though, I'm that idiot who was sitting

691
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: there watching the valves bar su and and you know,

692
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: the fields are it feels so different. The fields are different.

693
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: All the nasty back and forth between them has been,

694
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: you know, conflicting. Have you watched any of the live

695
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: Have you watched any of it? I mean I haven't

696
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: paid attention to one second. And I'm the guy who

697
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: will go watch the country club the you know, the

698
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: weekend of the club championship, and I'll just walk and

699
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: watch the guys who are playing in the finals. That's

700
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: how much I love watching golf. I haven't watched one

701
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: second of Live. If they were playing it in my backyard,

702
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: I would close the drape so I might not accidentally

703
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: see some of it. So I will admit there is

704
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: a part of me. Again, I don't be grudge cam

705
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: Smith taking the money. I don't be grudge Brooks Koepka

706
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: taking the money, but all this and those are the

707
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: only two that I think, well maybe Dustin that have

708
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: a realistic chance of competing this weekend.

709
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: Patrick and who'd you say, Patrick Reed?

710
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Okay, okay, So whoever they are, some people

711
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: are talking about that with the dream scenario b Rory

712
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: and Patrick Reid in the final group on Sunday, maybe

713
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: that would be In some ways, there's a part of

714
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: me that wants to see those guys get blitzed. Those

715
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: guys are not played real competition. They have not faced

716
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: the level of pressure that exists or the the atmosphere,

717
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 2: the environment that exists at this tournament or any PGA

718
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: tournament in months and months. I think that has to matter.

719
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 2: My gut feeling is those guys are going to struggle

720
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: like crazy as a result of it, and in some

721
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: ways I think that will be the best way of

722
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: demonstrating that what they're doing on that tour is a

723
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what can money that's all

724
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: it is down well, it's it's inarguably a money grab.

725
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: Regardless of what it is, but it is also not

726
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: It's not a competition on a similar level to what

727
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: they're doing on the PGA Tour.

728
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: So my issue is not with the Phils and Sergio,

729
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: as you pointed out, Bubba never going to win again

730
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 3: on the PGA Tour. My issue is with Cam Smith

731
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: and guy the younger guy who have sacrificed competition PGA

732
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: Tour golf at its highest level for the money. Those

733
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: guys should still be grinding it out on the PGA Tour.

734
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: I understand why Phil took it. He's fifty one years old.

735
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: Someone's offered him two hundred million dollars like he's never

736
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 3: going to offer that money, you know, offer that type

737
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: of money again, and so I understand why. I don't

738
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: like where the money comes from. Of course you don't either,

739
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 3: but I understand why he did it. It's the younger

740
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: guys that kind of I don't know, kind of drive

741
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: me crazy. What's the best case for you on Sunday,

742
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: we'll move away here. I want to ask you about

743
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: the jets and we'll get you out of here. But

744
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: for Sunday, for me, Mike, just because we don't know

745
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: how many more opportunities are both going to have. I

746
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: am still holding out hope and it's unlikely, but I'll

747
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: still hold out hope for as long as I can

748
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: give me Phil and Tiger on Sunday, and that would

749
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 3: be a dream scenario.

750
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: Well give me anyone in Tiger on Sunday.

751
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: I mean true.

752
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: If you know, people ask, you know, people walk up

753
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: to me and be like, hey, does Tiger have a

754
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: chance this weekend? And the answer is very simple to me.

755
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 5: No.

756
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: But I would have said the same thing four years

757
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: ago and he wore So you know, you just don't.

758
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: You just don't put anything past that guy. I think

759
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: it's unimaginably unlikely. I think if he makes the cut,

760
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 2: it would be an incredible accomplishment. And I think even

761
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: under normal circumstances, I give him almost no chance. I

762
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: think the weather is could not work out worse for him.

763
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: It's going to be cold, it's going to be rainy.

764
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: He's got a back, he's got a leg, he's got

765
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: a foot. Look, let's face it, he's got in everything.

766
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: And I do not think the weather favors him. I

767
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: think seventy five and sunny it would have helped Tiger

768
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: Woods a lot, and you know, forty eight and windy

769
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: and rain, and anyone who plays golf knows that kind

770
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: of bone chilling feeling that you get when it's like that.

771
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: If you've ever been over to Ireland or someplace that

772
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: got to play, you know that feeling you get you

773
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: got to stand in a hot shower for like forty

774
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: five minutes to get your body temperature back up after

775
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: you're done. That's the way I think it's going to

776
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: feel for these guys, and I think with Tiger's body

777
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 2: and the condition it's in, that does not bode well.

778
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 3: Mike. I want to talk to you about the Jets

779
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: because I'm disappointed in you. And here's why. Wow, I

780
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: enjoy the emotional roller coaster that you took us on.

781
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: I enjoy what your wife did on social media. It

782
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 3: was fantastic. Yeah, here is my issue because the guys

783
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: with my show, they wanted me to celebrate that we

784
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: got Aaron Rodgers, and I said, hey, we didn't get

785
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers yet, because until he is doing it at

786
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: the Jets facility with a jet hat on holding a

787
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: press conference for the New York Jets. Okay, I am

788
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: not convinced this thing is done. And because if any organization, Mike,

789
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: and you should know this, and you should have known better.

790
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: Premature celebration, Mike. Okay, if any organization could botch this,

791
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: it is our organization. And I feel like they're not

792
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: going to be able to find Mercedes Lewis, you know,

793
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: sign Odell Beckham Junior. And now here we are with

794
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: San Francisco jumping into the mix year and you got

795
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 3: guys on get ups telling you the Jets you're take

796
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: hendon hooker and you're going nuts at a bike. It's

797
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: not a done deal yet, yet you're celebrated. We have

798
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: Arett Rodgers and we don't. And you know we're capable

799
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: of messing this up.

800
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course we're capable of anything. But look, here's

801
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: the only thing I'll say. The expression in negotiation is

802
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 2: always it takes two to tango. We've got three. We've

803
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: got three doing a two person tango. The Jets want

804
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 2: this to happen. The packers want it to happen. Rogers

805
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: wants it to happen. There's no even for us, who

806
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: have been able to screw up almost everything, I can't

807
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: figure out the way that's going to happen. Here's what

808
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: I believe is gonna happen. I believe that Rogers has

809
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: told the Jets, I'm not coming until May, so hold

810
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: this thing out until the draft, and don't trade that

811
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: first pick. You need to get an offensive tackle. We

812
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: need that desperately. And because you know that, I do

813
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: the draft, so I can tell you right now, the

814
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: first nine picks in the draft are basically all going

815
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: to be quarterbacks and pass rushers. There's one corner that

816
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: everybody likes who probably will sneak in there, but outside

817
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: of that, that's what it's going to be. And then

818
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 2: there is going to be a run on offensive tackles.

819
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 2: There are like six guys at thirteen. You are guaranteed

820
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: to get a first round graded offensive tackle. And that's

821
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: what we need more than anything else, and Rogers wants it.

822
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: So I genuinely believe that Rogers has told them, don't

823
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: trade that pick. Hold out. If it takes, you'll get

824
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: the tackle. They'll cave. The Packers will trade him before

825
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: the draft. All Aaron if they don't trade him before

826
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: the draft, all Aaron Rodgers has to do is set

827
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: foot in the facility in Green Bay one day when

828
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: they start their mandatory stuff, and if he gets injured,

829
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: they are on the hook for sixty million dollars. He

830
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: could hurt himself on a weight room, so there's I

831
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: think there is no chance that. Look, there's never no

832
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: chance of anything, thank you. But I feel about as

833
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: good about this one as you could basically feel about it.

834
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: I love the idea of him like slipping on a

835
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: banana peel the Green Bay Packers facility.

836
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazier things have happened, and he's just

837
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: crazy enough to do anything.

838
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: Listen, you're right, one of those tackles, by the way,

839
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: might be your guy from Northwestern Peters Garonsky.

840
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: I think he will be gone by then, but he

841
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: might be there. But there's a bunch of these guys.

842
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: Ohio State has two tackles in Oklahoma as a kid,

843
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: everybody likes him. There are a bunch of tackles in

844
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: this draft. Pick the one you'll like and take him.

845
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what the Jets need.

846
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: Tell me if you agree with this on the way

847
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: out here, because this is people compare it to Brett Farv,

848
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: and this is different because and I'll tell you why,

849
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: Rrett Farv, and I will also maintain you that the

850
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: eight and three or nine and two start, whatever it

851
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 3: was with Farm three. And this speaks to how bad

852
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 3: our organization has been. Mike, since nineteen eighty two, I've

853
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: been a fan of theirs, and they've that's I don't know,

854
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 3: thirty some odd years they've had. They've started thirty five

855
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: different quarterbacks, including a backup punter and Tom Tupa. So

856
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: that's not bad and lousy. The organization has been for

857
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: the New York Jets, but sneaky under the radar. Guy

858
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: who deserves a lot of credit for this is Joe

859
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: Douglas because he has put together you missed on the quarterback,

860
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: but has put together a team that is good enough

861
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: where unlike Brett Farv who used us as a bridge

862
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 3: to get to Minnesota, Aaron Rodgers is one of the

863
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: all time greats, and one of the all time greats

864
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: is choosing one of the all time lousy organizations. And

865
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: this never happens to us. And that's why people like

866
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: me and you at Mike Ea, who was also a jetman,

867
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: is very excited. He gives us hope and he chose us.

868
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: No one ever chooses us, Mike. No.

869
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: And it also I think it could usher in sort

870
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 2: of a new feeling because Odell Beckham isn't a person

871
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: who would have chosen us either, but he will choose

872
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: to come play with Rogers. And you just watch in

873
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 2: the summer when all these other free agents who haven't

874
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: found teams yet, names, you know, like Leonard Fournett and

875
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: some of these others, guys who haven't gotten teams and

876
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: realized they're not going to get the kind of deal

877
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: they wanted, They're going to say, all right, if I

878
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: got to go someplace for one year, let me go

879
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: play with Rogers and try and win a ring in

880
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: New York. So he single handedly makes us a little

881
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: bit of a destination and changes the image of the franchise.

882
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: Now here's the one thing I will say. I thoroughly

883
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: believe the trade is going to happen, and I'm excited

884
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: about it and I'm hopeful, and I think there's a

885
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: really good chance it works out great. But people say, greedy,

886
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: don't you think there's some chance of this being a catastrophe.

887
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: Of course, I mean he is. He is, you know,

888
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: a little out there, and weird things can happen, and

889
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: they always seem to with him. Could I see this

890
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: going totally sideways. Absolutely, but it is the best roll

891
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: of the dice that we have at our disposal. So

892
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: I am a thousand percent behind it. And the one

893
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: thing I will say, as one who is always willing

894
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: to criticize the Jets for the mistakes I think they make,

895
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: what I will not criticize them for if this goes

896
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: sideways was trying it. It's the right thing to do

897
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: to try. So if this goes bad, if he doesn't

898
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: play well, if we're five and nine and everything is

899
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: a disappointment, I will be incredibly upset, but I will

900
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: not blame them for trying it is the right thing

901
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: to do.

902
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: Catastrophan have they seen the last four decades? I mean

903
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: I've I've seen more than you.

904
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: The only way that it's been worse for me is

905
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 2: that has just been longer.

906
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: Exactly right, I'll take big swings. If you're the Jets,

907
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: I got your numbers the new book. Let me ask

908
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: you this, if if Rogers goes to the Jets, he

909
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: wears number twelve, he wins a Super Bowl for the Jets,

910
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: will you rewrite the book and get Brady the hell

911
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: out of there?

912
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 2: No, here's what I will do this coming up. Super

913
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: Bowl is number fifty eight. So if he wins us

914
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, Jack Lambert is out. Jack sign on

915
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: a Jack Lambert. We are done with that. Get the

916
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: teeth and get out of here. And Rogers gets fifty eight.

917
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 2: We're doing a reprint, all right, got your number. Greedy

918
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: and Hembo wrote it together. Go pick it up anywhere

919
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: they sell books. Greedy, we appreciate it. How you listen,

920
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: I know you've spoken about it. I will ask you,

921
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: how are you feeling everything? Okay, I'm doing great.

922
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: Thank you.

923
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: I'm so appreciative of it. Nice notes I got from

924
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: you and so many people. What happened with me sounded

925
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: a lot scarier than it actually was. I have had

926
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: for many years now. Well everyone in Miami, he knows

927
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: it well because it's what Chris Bosh had. I had

928
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: atrial fibrillation, which is an arrhythmia, which usually the progress

929
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: of that diseases that it starts out very manageable with medication,

930
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: which it was for me for years, and then it

931
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: progresses to a place where you have to be more

932
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: aggressive and treating it, which it did, and so I

933
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: had to have a procedure, which is a very scary

934
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: sounding one. It's called a cardiac ablation, but it is

935
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: actually quite common, and you know, we were able to

936
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: time it, so it came sort of at a good

937
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: time for me work wise and whatever else. So I

938
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: was you know, I was laid up for about a

939
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: week and I'm still recovering a little. But in a

940
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: couple more weeks, I should feel better, honestly than I

941
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: have in about five years, because I should be rid

942
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: of this arrhythmia completely. So but everybody was incredibly nice

943
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 2: to me, and I really appreciate all the notes.

944
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: That's good. I'm happy to hear that. Mike. I've got

945
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: your numbers of the book. Get up every day eight

946
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: to ten on ESPN and of course ESPN Radio ten

947
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: to twelve. He's a very busy mess. Stop working so hard.

948
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the goal, but we'll see. I gotta sell

949
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: a lot of books. I've grown accustomed to living a

950
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: certain way, and I don't want to stop.

951
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: Listen. If you're gon arrest, it's a good weekend to do.

952
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 3: So you have four great days, Antiott, you know, absolutely

953
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: great scene. It's great seeing you, Mike. Good luck. I

954
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 3: have enjoyed the masters and good luck to us all

955
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers.

956
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: You too, all right, man, man, see you soon.

957
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 3: All right. Nice to have Greedy on you. Guys pointed

958
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 3: out earlier that I was the MVP of the Andy

959
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: Ronnick interview simply by not showing up. Billy, go ahead,

960
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: just you know what. I deserve to be reapped. You

961
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: have every right to be upset with me. I'm not

962
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: upset with you. I'm not going to rip you.

963
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: I will say that when we interviewed Andy, it was

964
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: a little bit of a stressful time right right before that.

965
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, yeah, I want you tell the audience why

966
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 3: I made it so stressful on you. This is listen,

967
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 3: and this is what Mikeya, to a lesser extent, although

968
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 3: he's dealt with it. Billy every day for as long

969
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 3: as I can remember, has to put up with this.

970
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: And by this I mean, may well, you agree to

971
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 4: an interview a day that you had a flight and

972
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: I didn't know that, or I wouldn't have agreed to

973
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: the interview. I would have said, no, let's just do

974
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 4: it another day. And then when I was talking to

975
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 4: you told me the flight was delayed. But then later

976
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 4: in the day, you told me you had to change

977
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: your flight.

978
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: To earlier in the day. So I still don't even

979
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 3: know the truth.

980
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 4: I just know that you were on an airplane at

981
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: the time that we had the interview, and somewhat to

982
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 4: your credit, you told me like two hours before the

983
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 4: interview that it wasn't gonna that you weren't going to

984
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: be able to make it happen.

985
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: And then, if we really want to get into the

986
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: terrible spot I left you, and I left you in

987
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: a terrible spot. I deserve all of this go ahead. Well,

988
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: well no, but then you were like try.

989
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: You were offering to reach out to childhood friends of

990
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 4: Andy Roddick to have them reschedule then you which I.

991
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 3: Was like, they have nothing to do with this. Marty

992
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: fisherman have done that for me. Marty Fish should not

993
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: have done that for you. He would ask you what

994
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 3: you're talking about. That was the weirdest solution to the problem.

995
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 4: It's like, I'll reach out to Marty, He'll help for sure,

996
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 4: Marty Fish will help us me schedule me.

997
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 3: People, do you know Marty Fish and rod I grew

998
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 3: up in the same house, right like you guys know

999
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 3: that and so and so. But I was really, we

1000
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: know they don't still live in the same house, right,

1001
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: I get that, Yes, But when I was trying to

1002
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: convey okay to you was that, hey, we can get

1003
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: Andy whatever we want. I'll just okay, I'll just say,

1004
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: by the way, I have a great idea for a

1005
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: podcasts for those two. They're best friends like brothers. Okay,

1006
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: you're ready, Yeah, you're ready. Yeah, fishing the rod, fishing rod. Wow,

1007
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: thank you? If they both fish, I mean we are

1008
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: onto something. It's a fishing it's a fishing podcast or

1009
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 3: just fishing rod. Right, Actually, they don't need the fish.

1010
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: It's a good name for a show, right Yeah. Sure,

1011
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: that's terrible. So how to go with and then well

1012
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 3: you'll find out we're going to talk some pickleball. We're

1013
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 3: going to talk about some pickle sandwiches. I'm sorry.

1014
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 4: We're joined now by Andy Roddick, who's with us on

1015
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: behalf of Subway and Pickleball to an extent.

1016
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 7: Andy, Yeah, yeah, I'm happy that Subways allowed me to

1017
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 7: help promote their Pickleball Club sandwich. It's available April twenty seventh.

1018
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 7: We got Black Forest him doubled the American cheese Hickory smoke, bacon, honey, mustard,

1019
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 7: and of course thicker crunchy or pickles.

1020
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 5: All that leading into our event.

1021
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 7: Get a play a game in front of an audience

1022
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 7: that I started playing two months ago.

1023
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 5: So we'll see how it goes well.

1024
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 4: Okay, So I've read a little bit about you and

1025
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: what was described as skepticism in regards to pickleball, and

1026
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: I don't think that you respected the art of pickleball,

1027
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: which has.

1028
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 3: Caught on here.

1029
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 4: I would say in like the last year or two

1030
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 4: in like a crazy way where lots of celebrities are

1031
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 4: buying teams. But it seems like you think that you

1032
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 4: can kind of just stroll in there and win pickleball

1033
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 4: tournaments and take hold millions of dollars in cash.

1034
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 5: That's a that's an exaggeration.

1035
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 3: I think.

1036
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 7: Uh, I think what I said, which I got my

1037
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 7: I really I started realizing the cult of pickleball very quickly.

1038
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 7: I got in trouble on Twitter for saying it's like

1039
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 7: tennis minus the speed, skill and learning curve. But uh,

1040
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 7: but I, I will be honest, over the last couple

1041
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 7: of months, I've really enjoyed I've really enjoyed learning it.

1042
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 7: My only question and I think it's it's one that

1043
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 7: hasn't quite been answered yet as far as a participatory sport,

1044
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 7: as far as something that is an easier entry into

1045
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 7: a racket or paddle sport. Uh, it's a ten out

1046
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 7: of ten, you can go out. It's it's it's way

1047
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 7: more social. Uh, it's it's it's it's a great game

1048
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 7: to play to participate in. My only question, which which

1049
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 7: I'm getting a little bit hammered for, is will it

1050
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 7: translate to a TV audience with the professional pickaball players?

1051
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 7: And it's one of those weird games where their betty

1052
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 7: you get the slower it gets, which is counter to

1053
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 7: a lot of a lot of sporting events, meaning you

1054
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 7: get a lot more of the dinks and you know

1055
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 7: you're you're basically trying to stay out of trouble a.

1056
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 5: Little bit more.

1057
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 7: So, I just don't know, And I will say, listen,

1058
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 7: everything to do with pickleball. I got, you know, a

1059
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 7: chance to invest in one of the franchises three years ago, and.

1060
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 5: I was the dummy who didn't do it.

1061
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 7: So I will say I have my opinions, but I've

1062
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 7: been wrong about everything to do with pickleball for the

1063
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 7: last three years.

1064
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 3: Already.

1065
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, you'll have to forgive me Andy. I haven't heard

1066
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 6: a word you said. I'm staring at those sandwiches at

1067
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 6: a fat guy. That's basically like I can't focus. But

1068
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 6: have you had people like telling you, well, you know,

1069
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 6: I think I could take you because I'm pretty good

1070
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 6: on the pickle court, you know, Like, do you have

1071
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 6: people that think that it translates one to one from

1072
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 6: pickleball to tennis and think because they're they're king of

1073
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 6: their club, they can take on a professional like yourself.

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00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 7: No, it's it's kind of been the opposite where I

1075
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 7: think it's a little intimidating because we're going into this

1076
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 7: event and normally when you're you know, I know you

1077
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 7: know Johnny Max's game backwards from watching him. I know,

1078
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 7: you know Andre I guess he was my idol, so

1079
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 7: I know his game backwards. In tennis, Michael Chang apparently

1080
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 7: is like the sneakiest pickleball player and he's been playing

1081
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 7: for three years and plays in tournaments and stuff. So

1082
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 7: that's a little bit intimidating. But we just we really

1083
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 7: don't know what we're in for. So it's this game

1084
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 7: we're trying to learn on the fly. It probably doesn't

1085
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 7: help that I've talked a bit of smack about it,

1086
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 7: so I've almost set myself up failure. But it's just

1087
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 7: this this phenomenon, you know, And here we are talking

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00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 7: about pickleball club sandwiches. It really I don't know that

1089
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 7: I've ever seen a participate, participatory sport take off the

1090
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 7: way that pickleball has. So you know, I'm as curious

1091
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 7: to play in this event as as maybe people are

1092
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 7: to potentially be watching it.

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00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: Can we talk about the pickleball club sandwich for a second,

1094
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 4: or the pickle club sandwich? That thing is enormous. Is

1095
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 4: that the actual size of it? Like if I were

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00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 4: to go into a subway and I were to order it,

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00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 4: that's the size that I would get.

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00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're actually measuring it. Say it's Andy's shoulders, that's

1099
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 7: the size that we want. I think that fits in

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00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 7: right there. But on April twenty seventh, you can certainly

1101
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 7: go into any subway store, subway dot com, subway app

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00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 7: and ask for the pickleball club And I'm assuming it's

1103
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 7: going to be this big for you.

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Speaker 3: That looks like it weighs like six pounds of meat.

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00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a risk leaving it in front of me.

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00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 7: As was mentioned earlier, I think by the time we're

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00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 7: done with the dead, I don't know that any of

1108
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 7: these will be be left standing on this table.

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00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 4: Are any of the when you've gotten into pickleball now

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00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 4: and you're going to be playing in this tournament, do

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00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 4: the professional pickleballers accept celebrities and tennis stars such as

1112
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 4: yourself or like, do they kind of like give you

1113
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 4: like a side I like, what is this guy doing

1114
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 4: coming onto our turf? And follow up? Have there been

1115
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 4: any that have gone up to you and you introduce

1116
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: yourself as Andy, assuming they know who you are, and

1117
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, like who are you? Because it's like

1118
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 4: the Babe Ruth or whatever of pickleball.

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00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 7: So I haven't been around any any any pro pickleball players.

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00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 7: I have no real exposure. If I was them, I'd

1121
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 7: be extremely annoyed by me. I just you know, if

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00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 7: we're if we're if we're being if we're being honest.

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Speaker 7: You know, I've I've kind of yapped a little bit,

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00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 7: you know, obviously coming from but most of the players

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00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 7: have a tennis background also, so there is there there

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00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 7: is a little bit of common ground It's not as

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00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 7: if I'm saying something weird to say. If you come

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00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 7: from tennis, you probably are more likely to be able

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00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 7: to play pick a ball at a decent level. I

1130
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 7: think most of the pros have that background in some way,

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00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 7: shape or form. But you know, listen, I hope that

1132
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 7: it's a high tide, you know, lifts all boats type

1133
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 7: situation with what we're doing on Sunday. Hopefully there's uh

1134
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 7: maybe some new exposure to people that haven't been interested

1135
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 7: in pickleball so far.

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Speaker 5: So hopefully it's a net win. But you know, I

1137
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 5: certainly wouldn't blame.

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00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 7: The pickleball community and and and the pickleball pros, the

1139
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 7: people that actually know how to play the game if

1140
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 7: they were slightly annoyed by us.

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00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 6: All Right, it sounds like you've really come around on

1142
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 6: this pickaball thing. So let me ask you this. Give

1143
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 6: me your dream pick a ball match. You're you, your partner,

1144
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 6: and your opponents.

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00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 7: Oh gosh, that's tough. I would love to see whose

1146
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 7: games translated, right. I'd love to see Serena play. I'd

1147
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 7: love to see Roger play. I'd love to see Rafa

1148
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 7: with these intense spins and the what he's able to create.

1149
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 7: If you gave him the kind of this dead paddle,

1150
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 7: how long it would take him to figure it out?

1151
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 7: They would figure it out, by the way, very but

1152
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 7: it would be fun to kind of see their their processes.

1153
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 7: One of the things that's been really fun for me

1154
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 7: over the last couple of months is kind of reconnecting

1155
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 7: with Andre where we're now texting on a daily basis

1156
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 7: and he's sending me, you know, paragraphs of analysis on

1157
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 7: new shots that he's trying and what's working for him

1158
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 7: in practice rounds, and he's, you know, one of the

1159
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 7: most analytical, inarticulate thinkers that we've ever had in tennis.

1160
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 7: So now to see kind of his obsession, I don't

1161
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 7: know that you know, we play some some senior events

1162
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 7: and stuff, and I don't know that any of us

1163
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 7: care as much about kind of trying to figure out

1164
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Speaker 7: this this new medium. So it's been fun to kind

1165
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 7: of convert have an excuse to converse with with Andre

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00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 7: on a daily basis and have kind of a shared goal. Wait,

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00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 7: so he's like two years older than me. Yeah, he uh,

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00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 7: it's been fun. He's become quickly obsessed with it.

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00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 4: Wait, he's all in on pickleball now, and he's annoying

1170
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 4: you guys with what he's trying to do to dominate

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00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 4: this because I would think that, like the rest of

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00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 4: you are kind of like, let's just have fun on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: see who wins.

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00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: But he wants to dominate this thing. He wants to win.

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00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean there's he he's easy. I mean texting

1176
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 7: me what shots win that you know, it's the third

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00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 7: shot you dink or do you drive?

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Speaker 5: And he's you know, certain sides that we're going to play.

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00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 7: I'm going from here to meet with him later because

1180
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 7: he wants to get a team practice in.

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Speaker 5: Before we play on Sunday.

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00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 7: So I don't know much about the preparation that shangermcinro

1183
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 7: I've done, but Agasy is all in.

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00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 3: Have you done any preparation?

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00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been play it. I enjoy it.

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01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 7: I really do enjoy it. I've been kind of leveling up.

1187
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 7: You know, you start with your buddies, then you try

1188
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 7: to find the best game in town. Andre and I

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01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 7: we were we happened to kind of be in Los

1190
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 7: Angeles on the same morning a couple of weeks ago,

1191
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 7: so we met up and we heard this is like

1192
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 7: this high level pickup game where you know some really

1193
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 7: high level players, a couple of pros. So we stroll

1194
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 7: up and got into a pickup game out there, so

1195
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 7: that it was pretty fun.

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01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 5: It's been a fun process.

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01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 4: Have you gone back to the team that you turned

1198
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 4: down and tried to get back in on this now

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01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 4: or it's too late on that.

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01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 3: No.

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01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 5: I think I think the ship is sailed.

1202
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 7: I'm a I'm a dummy, and I don't even know

1203
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 7: that it was a specific team. This was such a

1204
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 7: opaque idea when when I first heard about it, I

1205
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 7: think I probably would have had my ability to pick

1206
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,959
Speaker 7: and choose, and that ship is a long long Stince Saled,

1207
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 7: I'm afraid.

1208
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 4: I mean, if I were you, I wouldn't feel too

1209
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: bad about it, because like prior to pickleball taking off,

1210
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 4: like post pandemic, the only thing I had heard about

1211
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 4: pickleball was from this guy we work with named Bruce,

1212
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 4: who lived in a retirement community and told us you

1213
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 4: played pickle all on Tuesdays and how you know, exciting

1214
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 4: it was, and how it was so competitive, and then

1215
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 4: he had like double knee replacement. So I was like,

1216
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 4: I don't know, Bruce, that this one's going to catch on.

1217
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that was probably my line of thinking as well.

1218
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden, you know, you see

1219
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 7: it on different networks. It's it's been it's been crazy

1220
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 7: to watch.

1221
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 5: But listen.

1222
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 7: If I'm going to tell you my opinions and what

1223
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 7: I think I'm confident about, I have to tell you

1224
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 7: where where I've been wrong along the way as well.

1225
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 4: All right, so one more time on the way out,

1226
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 4: what are you doing with subway?

1227
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: In regards to pickle sandwich.

1228
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 7: We are talking about the pickleball Club available everywhere. April

1229
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 7: twenty seventh, blackbars, ham American cheese, hickory smoke, bacon, new honey, mustard, thicker,

1230
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 7: crunchier pickles because obviously pickleball Club.

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01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: So.

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01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,959
Speaker 5: Lots of these before Sunday. I'll tell you that.

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01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 3: Awesome.

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01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much, Andy, Good luck Sunday, and

1235
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 4: good luck with the sandwich.

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01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 5: Cheers, guys, thank

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01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 3: You still stay and stand to spe