WEBVTT - 12 Potential Breakout Players & Remembering Nellie 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:10.080 Good morning, Swirl and welcome to the Not Dunks Podcast 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:14.120 presented by Fan Duels, Monday, August tenth, twenty twenty six. 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.119 I'm Jay Skis here in the Classic Factory and alongside 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:18.680 me as always tas Mellis. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.640 Podcast listeners, this is for you. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.560 Next to him, it's my top shot O, Trey Kirby, Heyo, 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.640 and over yonder right over there making the magic happen. 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.680 Super producer Jad there is here. We are. 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.800 Hello to everybody joining us live right now. Hit the 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.480 light button, subscribe, share the show podcast listeners, five star 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.040 ratings and reviews. On today's show, we have some fun 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:46.680 drafting some potential breakout players for the twenty six twenty 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.519 seven season, which, by the way, I just saw the 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.200 NBA sharing on their socials they're going to start announcing 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:58.480 the NBA schedule tomorrow morning on Good Morning America and 0:00:59.160 --> 0:00:59.960 the Today Show. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:01.520 I guess they're going to. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.120 Tease us with some of the big games on those 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:05.920 shows and then we'll get the rest of it this week. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:14.759 Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, Christmas, here's one game. Yeah, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.440 you know it's gonna be a real teaser. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.360 Oh my god, hold on, hold on, they can't do 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:24.120 that type of team, just one of the Christmas Yeah. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:26.640 Uh so, yeah, we'll get that this week. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:32.240 Otherwise, a fairly quiet weekend NBA news worthy unfortunate news. 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:37.240 On Sunday, legendary NBA coach Don Nelson died over the weekend. 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.200 He was eighty six years old. Nelson won five titles 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.920 as a player for the Boston Celtics and as a 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:47.240 coach well. He pioneered a style of basketball called Nelly Ball. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.280 It was named after him, you know, favoring fast paced, 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:54.600 smaller players just outrun the opponent's very entertaining basketball. Second 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.320 winningest coach in league history only Popovich with more wins. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:04.040 Tributes you saw rushed in former players, colleagues, teams, executives 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.839 for Nelly. Your reaction to Don Nelson gone at eighty 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:09.480 six years. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.760 Old, Yeah, sad news for sure. A guy that has 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.800 been a part of the NBA as long as we've 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.120 known and watched the NBA for us, he's obviously a 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.359 coach and one of the most innovative coaches there has 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:24.200 ever been retired as the all time winning his coach 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.040 in NBA history. But like you're saying, he came up 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.639 with Nelly Ball, kind of invented small ball. He invented 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.640 the small forward or a point forward position. I couldn't 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:36.000 believe this looking at his Wikipedia page. He invented hack 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.360 a sheck. He was the first guy to hack a sheck. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.880 Back in the nineties. He was the coach of that 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.720 We Believe Warriors, who were one of the first upset teams. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.840 He even helped the Golden State Warriors pick Steph Curry. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:54.119 So the influence of Don Nelson just continues even though 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.440 he's passed on. The other things I think of, of course, 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.919 are his fish tie m like that was the first. 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:01.160 Thing I thought him about. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.760 Somebody else ever wear a fish child, but he had 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.040 several of them. And then of course his post retirement 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.600 weed farm, where were a host poker games with Willie Nelson, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.960 Woody Harrelson and Owen Wilson. Seems like an awesome life 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:12.840 this guy had. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:17.880 Yes, for sure. Yeah, light one up for Don. Yeah. 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.160 Whether whether it's a cigar, which he did, you know 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.920 in his coaching days, or the weed as he said, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.639 that's post coach career. He made that specifically clear when 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.519 he was on that press conference with Steven Jackson and 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.959 Cory mcghetty, I remember the Golden State Warriors, which was 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.640 which was great. The guy is a real one man. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.680 I went back and just watched him in his press 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.080 conference just last year. He was eighty five years old 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.120 when he accepted that Chuck Daily Lifetime Achievement Award during 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.040 the NBA Finals, and he just told like it is. 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.800 He said, I'm wearing Luka Dancic's shoes here to protest 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.160 that trade. What a dumb trade was you traded away 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.560 that guy? He's got stories four days as trade kind 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.200 of brought up the one about I heard from Mark 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.280 Stein who asked him before he drafted Dirk Noviski, you're 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.080 gonna draft Dirk Noviski? He said, no, that guy was 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.840 crushed in his workout by Dan Gadd's reach. There's no 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.240 way I can draft him. Then he drafted him. Then 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.080 Stein asked him, Hey, what was that all about. He goes, well, 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.320 you can never trust me before the draft. You never 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.240 trust anyone. And that's a word of wisdom for everybody 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.200 going into the draft. Never trust anybody before the draft screens. 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.960 But yes, just go watch Don Nelson stuff. He's an 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:27.679 incredible person. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.800 So he coached the Bucks, coached the Warriors, twice. He 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.080 did coach the Knicks. That was a very short stint. 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:34.080 That one didn't go well. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.640 Obviously, coached the Mavericks there with Dirk and Steve Nash 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.800 and that great team Coach of the Year three times, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.200 eighty three, eighty five, ninety two. He made the playoffs 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.440 a whole bunch of times, I think eighteen times total, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.560 won a bunch of division titles. Now he unfortunately never 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.560 coached actually in the finals. He had a really good 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.880 Bucks team or two, and then made the conference finals 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.640 for sure with the Mavericks. I think they follow the 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:58.159 Spurs coach dream team two. I had completely forgotten about 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.039 to the ninety four World Championships, and he was inducted 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.120 into the Hall of Fame in twenty twelve. But you 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.680 said it, Trey, I mean he like, this guy revolutionized 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:10.200 basketball for a couple of the things you said. He 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:14.200 invented the point forward. He obviously was pretty instrumental in 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.839 the stretch for when it came to Dirk. He leaned 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.360 into small ball, the space and pace, using the three 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.200 point shot as an absolute weapon in this league. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:24.480 And he was. 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.640 Sort of like a couple steps ahead of many other 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:32.320 franchises when it came to international scouting as well, so 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.880 he sort of at the forefront of that just saw 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:39.000 the game differently and challenged convention, which was pretty cool 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.800 and also just seemed like the coolest hang of all time. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:42.880 Yeah, it seems awesome. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.120 Yeah, and if you're old en after, you're like, oh, yeah, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:49.000 he actually was a great basketball player as five titles. Yeah, 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.440 with the Celtics back in the sixties and seventies. That 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:52.960 was the first thing my dad said, one of the 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.640 most unique free throw styles in NBA history. Looks like 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.320 a kid shooting a free throw, shoots at one handed 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.440 and jumps, but somehow shot seventy five percent at the line. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:03.600 Yeah, there's guys that. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.320 Brick away shooting proper style. But you could go to 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.760 the Hall of Fame if you actually do what works. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.680 Yeah. I love seeing him in that Celtics uniform number 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.120 nineteen with just one hand on the ball and so 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.120 much separation and he gets he got down so low. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.360 Oh yeah, Jerry Steck has a squad for sure. It 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.960 was but he was ahead of his time obviously, as 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.080 he was even when he last year when he was 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.560 talking about today's modern era and they were asking him, 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.200 how do you like it in comparison. Yeah, this is 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.240 this is awesome. This is what I foresaw when I 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.240 was with the Boston Celtics. You know, he didn't take 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.200 credit for that by any means. That's not the kind 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.360 of guy he was. But it fits. It really fits, 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:44.640 is his style of ball. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.320 And again like so well, like so generous, open minded, 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.320 you had all these like legends. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.200 Let's call it. There are legends in Steph. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.240 Obviously, current players still Nash, Dirk like everybody I saw 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.680 like on social media jumping in and and you know, 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.880 sharing their thoughts on how much he John Nelson meant 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.880 to them in their career. A lot of these guys 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:05.840 are like, yeah, you basically made helped make me who 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:06.200 I was. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:06.560 Well. 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.960 Steph Curry became a two time MVP, was drafted by 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.040 Don Nelson. Steve Nash became a two time MVP. He 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.120 told the Dallas Mavericks, don't let this guy to get away, 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.120 and Dirk Noavisky became an MVP, and he said, go 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:19.920 stand by the three point line and let a fly, buddy. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Last year when he was talking about 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.560 Steve Nash leaving the Dallas Mavericks, he said, that's where 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.240 I got into my scrap and we never were able 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.200 to settle it between myself and Mark Cuban because he 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.040 let Steve Nash go and in that instance he told 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.160 like it was cubes, don't let this guy go. Big mistake. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.000 Another favorite story was Nick Van Exell on social media 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.800 saying he was like the one coach who would get 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.280 upset with me if I didn't shoot. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.920 He'd be like, I'll pull your ass if you don't shoot. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.160 The opposite right, like a coach is gonna be like, 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.000 all right, too many shots, take another bat shot and 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.880 taking it off. It's like don Nelson, he looked at 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.200 it completely differently. You gotta play free, you gotta have confidence, 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.000 let it rip. Stuff like that, obviously focusing on the offensive. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.720 So don Nelson gone at eighty six years old. Hall 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.960 of Famer Don Nelson in the Hall of Fame for coaching. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.480 But yeah, five titles with the Celtics. 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.720 Not bad either. Number retired by the Boston Celtics. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.680 Other news from the weekend, I just want to give 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.680 you a whole bunch because again, not all that exciting. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:21.760 But we still have multiple teams in theory pursuing Peyton Watson, 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.600 including the Hawks, Clippers, Bucks, and Calves. The Pistons remain 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.560 the favorite to sign Jalen Durhan, but two sides are 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.040 at an impass and they've been told, or we've been told, 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.080 it might take a couple months here. The Lakers are 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.440 still interested in Jonathan Kaminga. James Harden is still on 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.439 track for a multi year deal with the Calves. DeMar 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.440 de Rosen has drawn interest from a bunch of teams, Heat, Nuggets, Wizards, 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.440 Caves as well, and then the latest one. I guess 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:51.280 Ben Simmons is generating interest from several teams, so he 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.840 might get like a camp inviter to here. And you 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:55.720 won't believe this. I saw a photo of Ben Simmons 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.680 without a shirt on looking checked. 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.480 Yeah, he went and change a thing about his NBA career. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.439 I would, yeah, and he might. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.360 He might that statement he might try I don't know, 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.560 try not tryout, but might be a part of the 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.120 Australian team. Yeah, which is you know, he has not 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.840 been involved with at all from what I can remember, 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.920 for a very long time, so that has some eyebrows 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:18.440 being raised. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.800 That's all the news, and he doesn't regret that. I mean, 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.640 the whole relationship there, although that's not part of his 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.040 NBA career. Maybe that's separate, but yeah, very odd. The 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.880 whole Payton Watson thing very interesting because the Denver Nuggets 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.720 are the only team in the second apron of all 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:36.840 the teams, a team that's criticized for not paying guys 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.560 a lot. So it's very interesting to see if they 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.000 were just are able to reel him in, like it's 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.360 Ben Simmons reeling in a fish based on what their 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.040 salaries are, because they've got to do something otherwise if 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.120 they do bring him back, but it could be him 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.040 that ends up somewhere else. So that's a very interesting 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.640 scenario to me, books wise and talent wise. That guy 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:58.960 is very important to that team. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:00.880 Yeah, and I don't think we need to do it 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:02.640 again here today because we've talked a lot about Peyton 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.480 Watson and we'll just wait for more news there. But 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.200 get that sort of in front of everyone. He could 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.560 be a guy that might be drafted in our breakout 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.520 players draft here. Let's get to this. We're doing four rounds, 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.600 so we're drafting twelve players in total of potential breakout 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.440 players for this coming season. Trivia question to decide who 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.000 gets to go first here. I think I came up 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.880 with a fun one here. You guys will go back 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.439 and forth. It'll be one of these trivia questions where 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.320 I need you to name the ten. There's ten in 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:39.400 total most Improved Player Award winners who were born outside 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:45.600 the US. Okay, so international most Improved Player winners. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.040 And I'll say this right now. What's fun about. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.840 This is there's the tenth. One is a bit of 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:57.000 a oh you sly skeets. But there's nine real legit 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:01.120 international guys, but no duplicate countries. 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:02.800 No duke. I couldn't believe it. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.840 Okay, So maybe that's a little a little hint there 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.640 for you. Task you start first here, give me an 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:09.080 international mi I P winner. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.760 It's good you're starting with me because once upon a 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.800 time people thought that he Turgu look like me. So yes, 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.440 turkey A there you go, one down, lots to go. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:22.840 I thought you were gonna say him the way you 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.040 were preambling janis antokumpo. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:31.359 Oh yes, it's funny. Yeah, that's a good one. I've Yeah, 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.920 sometimes you forget about how many awards you understanding. Goobo 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:38.160 won CJ McCall, My god, he's America task. 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:43.640 Yeah, yeah, he's American trade back to you to get 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:43.880 the way. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:44.880 Just give me one more. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.719 I'll take Dyson Daniels and Nikhil Alexander. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:53.800 W Yeah, and two local busy thinking of the Greeks 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:54.760 and the Turks fighting. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:57.880 Can you get just for fun? Can you give me 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:06.000 any others? Yes, Cameroon, thank you nice. You've got four 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:11.280 sort of five left. Victor States. Yes, he was born 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.040 not a not on the list here. And there's one 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.360 guy who represented US basketball and international hoops was who 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:23.200 was born in Lebanon. This was the the tenth one 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.440 born outside of the US that I would have didn't think. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.040 You gotta go way back. You got to get on 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:38.959 the twos honey cyclis. But four other you know, gettable ones, 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:40.839 gettable ones. I don't want to give you the countries. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.040 I think you'll get them right away. But I will think. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.280 I think, I think very cold northern countries. 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.200 Marketing. There you go, there we go. 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.480 Now we're getting back to the earlier some of the 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:57.559 you know, earlier days. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:58.480 I guess these are some. 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.880 Maybe these are probably nine's at least one of them 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:03.040 is Romania. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.400 That's a tough one. He's a big. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.600 Yes, he did gotta remember, most Improved used to go 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.440 to weird guys, not now, yeah, exactly. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.280 This guy was an NBA champion though from France. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.080 This guy was an NBA champion from France. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:28.880 Michael Piatrice much better, much better, not that good, but 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:30.040 this guy loved coffee. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.760 Yeah, my final one. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.280 He had a brother with a damn near identical name 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:42.040 in the league, Seth Curry. No, but it's like it's 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:50.280 like that Seth and stuff, very similar to that from Slovenia. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.040 You got them all, We eventually got them all there. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.960 There, that's all right, that's all right, just thinking time 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.160 was Yeah, countries, that's countries. Ain't easy. 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.720 Okay, So Trey has the number one pick here in 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.280 our Potential Breakout Players draft. Now, I think it's important 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.080 to note, I mean I had a trivia question about 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.960 most Improved. Doesn't mean we're trying to find like first 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.720 year All Stars or like the next MIP though it can. 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.280 I think there's overlap. But you can go wherever you 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.240 want with whatever your definition will be of a potential 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:23.840 breakout player. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.280 T K all right, I'm gonna go with the guy 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.200 who I think very well could make his first All 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:28.720 Star game. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:29.160 This year. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.760 Definitely could be an MIP candidate as well. Now that 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:36.000 I'm thinking about it, give me Brandon Miller from Hornets, 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.000 because I look at the Hornets now and I think, 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.360 are they Brandon Miller's team or are they Conker Nipples team. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.480 I kind of think time will tell. The only thing 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.200 we do know, not LaMelo Balls team right now. I'm 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.040 a little encouraged though, that Brandon Miller was actually good 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.160 in the play in games that the Hornets had last 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.640 season twenty three, five and five, hit five threes against 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.720 the Heat, and then when the Hornets got womped by 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.640 the Magic at least fourteen points at four breeze. That's 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.240 better than basically anybody else on the Hornets, I can say. 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.520 I guess LaMelo actually played pretty well. I think LaMelo 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.840 and Miles Bridges were both solid in both of these games, 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.480 and they're both out gone. But I look at the 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.680 Hornets now twenty seven and eleven last season, when Brandon 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.680 Miller scored twenty or more, of the question for me 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.800 is can he be a playmaker for this team? Because 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.360 the Hornets were great offensively last year top five in offense, 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.960 but that was with LaMelo creating a ton of the looks. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.720 Brandon Miller was much more efficient when Ball was on 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.520 the court, put up bigger counting numbers, at least when 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.240 LaMelo was out. So I look at Brandon Miller as 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.680 a guy who's currently extension eligible. They'll probably do a deal, 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.520 I assume before the start of the season, or maybe 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.600 they say go into restricted free agency next year and 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.840 he's going to try and go for a gigantic max contract. 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.680 But I'm in general think Brandon Miller is a good player. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.440 I think he steps into the number one responsibility guy 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.000 this year. So that screams breakout to me. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.080 Yeah, I had one my short list. He was in 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:05.440 the running some hesitation just with yeah, adding to his game, 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.080 he's a score, He's this guy can score. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.520 But like is he is? Does he have Mortos game? 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.520 Or is he gonna turn? Is he like RJ? Barrett? 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.040 And sort of that regard and that story where he 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.120 plateau is probably not because he's so young. Here still 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.400 what he's like twenty three, twenty four, So going into 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:18.920 his fourth. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:19.640 Year, it's a good pick. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.640 Definitely a potential first time all start if the Hornets 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.440 are obviously still good even without LaMelo Ball. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.120 Yeah, I was wondering just what happens out there with 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:29.840 the dynamic, But I think Charles Lee as a head 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:33.800 coach will make sure everybody fires away and strictly that 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.000 just let him fly. They got a lot of shooters 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:41.200 they do, they do, and they love the guards getting space, 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.000 whether it's them picking and getting out there and firing away. 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:46.920 So I think Brandon Miller would be part of that. 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:48.920 He's just gonna be part of that. He's gonna shoot. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.080 But as you said, the shooters they've added now Grace 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.720 and Allen coming into with that trade from Milesbridge is there. 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.080 They're gonna fire, so they're gonna score a lot, and 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.440 I guess that's what other teams are going to scout 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.560 them as this team that's just going to shoot against 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:04.960 This is going. 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.240 To be a bombs away team because it's Grayson, Allen, Royce, 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.840 O'Neill and nas Reed were the three guys that they 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.119 brought in that's even more shooting than they're losing with 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.960 Bridges and Ball going out. So I think they're still 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.879 going to be a potent offensive team. But they were 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.080 kind of middle of the pack last year and assists, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.199 and that's with LaMelo being a passer. I don't know 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.359 that they have a playmaker like that on the roster 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.240 this year unless Miller shows us something that he hasn't 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:29.560 really flashed so far in his game. 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.600 Yeah, that's the biggest question. Who is running the point? 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.160 I mean, who's running every single possession there? 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.439 Yes, they're hoping it's Kobe White for the most party 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:39.719 in Knipple's hands a little bit more. 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.560 Yeah, yeah, Brandon. 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:41.920 Miller off the board. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.200 Where are you going? That's a fun one, fun one 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.440 to take a guy who's got strictly a bigger role. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.040 And that's why I'll stick. Trey always influenced me with 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:51.679 the first pick after I make a mistake in the 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.400 trivia with the angle he goes, I'm going with Colin 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.240 Mury Boyles of the Toronto Raptors because he's going to 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.320 get a bigger role. In the regular season, he didn't 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.520 have that at all. He played only fifty seven games 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.800 and just twenty two minutes per game, and then became 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:10.879 a huge player, you know, both physically and strategically in 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.399 the offseason or in the postseason for them. He was 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.080 so good playing twenty seve minutes game. I think he's 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:17.600 going to get up to thirty minutes as they push 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.520 him to do more. Will he start for Yaka Pearl. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.359 Probably not, but at the same time, because they know 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.520 the limits that Yaka Pearl has culin Murray Boyles and 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:31.199 his very, very variety of a type of game he 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.919 plays is going to be out there. He's known for defense. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.320 Of course, he's good at guarding perimeter guys, but he 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.639 showed he can guard big guys as well. But his 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.000 skills of passing out being able to shoot a little 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.440 bit the push shot. I think he's gonna actually run 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.879 pick and rolls himself or he's the ball handler and 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.080 also the picksetter as well. I think at times we're 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.760 going to see this guy be the second best player 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.960 that we know on this team behind Scottie Barnes. Now 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:58.960 is Kawhi Leon are going to join the team maybe, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.760 But sometimes you're gonna watch games, are gonna say, well, 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.960 this guy played thirty minutes a game, he had more 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.720 of a factor, played more of a factor than RJ. Barrett, 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.960 or played more of a factor than Manual. Quickly, he's 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.879 gonna be that good and I think he's going to 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.639 be pushed to do that as he has been in 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.720 the offseason, he's gonna be awesome. I think he's gonna 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.600 be really really good. He is, you know, small ball 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.120 center at a perfect time in his career. I think 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.520 it just fits with what's going on in the NBA. 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.680 So I think he's gonna be really really good. 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.480 I just wonder if he's still gonna be limited a 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.400 little bit because of Partle being there. Yeah, if he's 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.480 if Partle's healthy, I mean he purtle will start if 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.840 he's healthy, and I think that's fine. But you're right, 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.400 he'll end games. And he was awesome in the postseason. Yeah, 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.000 I just wonder, numbers wise, are they gonna. 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:50.160 Pomp last year in the playoffs he was fourteen and six, 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.399