Speaker 1: Good morning, Swirl and welcome to the Not Dunks Podcast
Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duels, Monday, August tenth, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skis here in the Classic Factory and alongside
Speaker 1: me as always tas Mellis.
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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot O, Trey Kirby, Heyo,
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Speaker 1: drafting some potential breakout players for the twenty six twenty
Speaker 1: seven season, which, by the way, I just saw the
Speaker 1: NBA sharing on their socials they're going to start announcing
Speaker 1: the NBA schedule tomorrow morning on Good Morning America and
Speaker 1: the Today Show.
Speaker 2: I guess they're going to.
Speaker 1: Tease us with some of the big games on those
Speaker 1: shows and then we'll get the rest of it this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, Christmas, here's one game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know it's gonna be a real teaser.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, hold on, hold on, they can't do
Speaker 1: that type of team, just one of the Christmas Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh so, yeah, we'll get that this week.
Speaker 1: Otherwise, a fairly quiet weekend NBA news worthy unfortunate news.
Speaker 1: On Sunday, legendary NBA coach Don Nelson died over the weekend.
Speaker 1: He was eighty six years old. Nelson won five titles
Speaker 1: as a player for the Boston Celtics and as a
Speaker 1: coach well. He pioneered a style of basketball called Nelly Ball.
Speaker 1: It was named after him, you know, favoring fast paced,
Speaker 1: smaller players just outrun the opponent's very entertaining basketball. Second
Speaker 1: winningest coach in league history only Popovich with more wins.
Speaker 1: Tributes you saw rushed in former players, colleagues, teams, executives
Speaker 1: for Nelly. Your reaction to Don Nelson gone at eighty
Speaker 1: six years.
Speaker 3: Old, Yeah, sad news for sure. A guy that has
Speaker 3: been a part of the NBA as long as we've
Speaker 3: known and watched the NBA for us, he's obviously a
Speaker 3: coach and one of the most innovative coaches there has
Speaker 3: ever been retired as the all time winning his coach
Speaker 3: in NBA history. But like you're saying, he came up
Speaker 3: with Nelly Ball, kind of invented small ball. He invented
Speaker 3: the small forward or a point forward position. I couldn't
Speaker 3: believe this looking at his Wikipedia page. He invented hack
Speaker 3: a sheck. He was the first guy to hack a sheck.
Speaker 3: Back in the nineties. He was the coach of that
Speaker 3: We Believe Warriors, who were one of the first upset teams.
Speaker 3: He even helped the Golden State Warriors pick Steph Curry.
Speaker 3: So the influence of Don Nelson just continues even though
Speaker 3: he's passed on. The other things I think of, of course,
Speaker 3: are his fish tie m like that was the first.
Speaker 2: Thing I thought him about.
Speaker 3: Somebody else ever wear a fish child, but he had
Speaker 3: several of them. And then of course his post retirement
Speaker 3: weed farm, where were a host poker games with Willie Nelson,
Speaker 3: Woody Harrelson and Owen Wilson. Seems like an awesome life
Speaker 3: this guy had.
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure. Yeah, light one up for Don. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Whether whether it's a cigar, which he did, you know
Speaker 2: in his coaching days, or the weed as he said,
Speaker 2: that's post coach career. He made that specifically clear when
Speaker 2: he was on that press conference with Steven Jackson and
Speaker 2: Cory mcghetty, I remember the Golden State Warriors, which was
Speaker 2: which was great. The guy is a real one man.
Speaker 2: I went back and just watched him in his press
Speaker 2: conference just last year. He was eighty five years old
Speaker 2: when he accepted that Chuck Daily Lifetime Achievement Award during
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, and he just told like it is.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm wearing Luka Dancic's shoes here to protest
Speaker 2: that trade. What a dumb trade was you traded away
Speaker 2: that guy? He's got stories four days as trade kind
Speaker 2: of brought up the one about I heard from Mark
Speaker 2: Stein who asked him before he drafted Dirk Noviski, you're
Speaker 2: gonna draft Dirk Noviski? He said, no, that guy was
Speaker 2: crushed in his workout by Dan Gadd's reach. There's no
Speaker 2: way I can draft him. Then he drafted him. Then
Speaker 2: Stein asked him, Hey, what was that all about. He goes, well,
Speaker 2: you can never trust me before the draft. You never
Speaker 2: trust anyone. And that's a word of wisdom for everybody
Speaker 2: going into the draft. Never trust anybody before the draft screens.
Speaker 2: But yes, just go watch Don Nelson stuff. He's an
Speaker 2: incredible person.
Speaker 1: So he coached the Bucks, coached the Warriors, twice. He
Speaker 1: did coach the Knicks. That was a very short stint.
Speaker 2: That one didn't go well.
Speaker 1: Obviously, coached the Mavericks there with Dirk and Steve Nash
Speaker 1: and that great team Coach of the Year three times,
Speaker 1: eighty three, eighty five, ninety two. He made the playoffs
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of times, I think eighteen times total,
Speaker 1: won a bunch of division titles. Now he unfortunately never
Speaker 1: coached actually in the finals. He had a really good
Speaker 1: Bucks team or two, and then made the conference finals
Speaker 1: for sure with the Mavericks. I think they follow the
Speaker 1: Spurs coach dream team two. I had completely forgotten about
Speaker 1: to the ninety four World Championships, and he was inducted
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame in twenty twelve. But you
Speaker 1: said it, Trey, I mean he like, this guy revolutionized
Speaker 1: basketball for a couple of the things you said. He
Speaker 1: invented the point forward. He obviously was pretty instrumental in
Speaker 1: the stretch for when it came to Dirk. He leaned
Speaker 1: into small ball, the space and pace, using the three
Speaker 1: point shot as an absolute weapon in this league.
Speaker 2: And he was.
Speaker 1: Sort of like a couple steps ahead of many other
Speaker 1: franchises when it came to international scouting as well, so
Speaker 1: he sort of at the forefront of that just saw
Speaker 1: the game differently and challenged convention, which was pretty cool
Speaker 1: and also just seemed like the coolest hang of all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're old en after, you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: he actually was a great basketball player as five titles. Yeah,
Speaker 3: with the Celtics back in the sixties and seventies. That
Speaker 3: was the first thing my dad said, one of the
Speaker 3: most unique free throw styles in NBA history. Looks like
Speaker 3: a kid shooting a free throw, shoots at one handed
Speaker 3: and jumps, but somehow shot seventy five percent at the line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's guys that.
Speaker 3: Brick away shooting proper style. But you could go to
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame if you actually do what works.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love seeing him in that Celtics uniform number
Speaker 2: nineteen with just one hand on the ball and so
Speaker 2: much separation and he gets he got down so low.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jerry Steck has a squad for sure. It
Speaker 2: was but he was ahead of his time obviously, as
Speaker 2: he was even when he last year when he was
Speaker 2: talking about today's modern era and they were asking him,
Speaker 2: how do you like it in comparison. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: this is awesome. This is what I foresaw when I
Speaker 2: was with the Boston Celtics. You know, he didn't take
Speaker 2: credit for that by any means. That's not the kind
Speaker 2: of guy he was. But it fits. It really fits,
Speaker 2: is his style of ball.
Speaker 1: And again like so well, like so generous, open minded,
Speaker 1: you had all these like legends.
Speaker 2: Let's call it. There are legends in Steph.
Speaker 1: Obviously, current players still Nash, Dirk like everybody I saw
Speaker 1: like on social media jumping in and and you know,
Speaker 1: sharing their thoughts on how much he John Nelson meant
Speaker 1: to them in their career. A lot of these guys
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, you basically made helped make me who
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Steph Curry became a two time MVP, was drafted by
Speaker 3: Don Nelson. Steve Nash became a two time MVP. He
Speaker 3: told the Dallas Mavericks, don't let this guy to get away,
Speaker 3: and Dirk Noavisky became an MVP, and he said, go
Speaker 3: stand by the three point line and let a fly, buddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Last year when he was talking about
Speaker 2: Steve Nash leaving the Dallas Mavericks, he said, that's where
Speaker 2: I got into my scrap and we never were able
Speaker 2: to settle it between myself and Mark Cuban because he
Speaker 2: let Steve Nash go and in that instance he told
Speaker 2: like it was cubes, don't let this guy go. Big mistake.
Speaker 1: Another favorite story was Nick Van Exell on social media
Speaker 1: saying he was like the one coach who would get
Speaker 1: upset with me if I didn't shoot.
Speaker 2: He'd be like, I'll pull your ass if you don't shoot.
Speaker 1: The opposite right, like a coach is gonna be like,
Speaker 1: all right, too many shots, take another bat shot and
Speaker 1: taking it off. It's like don Nelson, he looked at
Speaker 1: it completely differently. You gotta play free, you gotta have confidence,
Speaker 1: let it rip. Stuff like that, obviously focusing on the offensive.
Speaker 1: So don Nelson gone at eighty six years old. Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer Don Nelson in the Hall of Fame for coaching.
Speaker 1: But yeah, five titles with the Celtics.
Speaker 2: Not bad either. Number retired by the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1: Other news from the weekend, I just want to give
Speaker 1: you a whole bunch because again, not all that exciting.
Speaker 1: But we still have multiple teams in theory pursuing Peyton Watson,
Speaker 1: including the Hawks, Clippers, Bucks, and Calves. The Pistons remain
Speaker 1: the favorite to sign Jalen Durhan, but two sides are
Speaker 1: at an impass and they've been told, or we've been told,
Speaker 1: it might take a couple months here. The Lakers are
Speaker 1: still interested in Jonathan Kaminga. James Harden is still on
Speaker 1: track for a multi year deal with the Calves. DeMar
Speaker 1: de Rosen has drawn interest from a bunch of teams, Heat, Nuggets, Wizards,
Speaker 1: Caves as well, and then the latest one. I guess
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons is generating interest from several teams, so he
Speaker 1: might get like a camp inviter to here. And you
Speaker 1: won't believe this. I saw a photo of Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: without a shirt on looking checked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he went and change a thing about his NBA career.
Speaker 2: I would, yeah, and he might.
Speaker 1: He might that statement he might try I don't know,
Speaker 1: try not tryout, but might be a part of the
Speaker 1: Australian team. Yeah, which is you know, he has not
Speaker 1: been involved with at all from what I can remember,
Speaker 1: for a very long time, so that has some eyebrows
Speaker 1: being raised.
Speaker 2: That's all the news, and he doesn't regret that. I mean,
Speaker 2: the whole relationship there, although that's not part of his
Speaker 2: NBA career. Maybe that's separate, but yeah, very odd. The
Speaker 2: whole Payton Watson thing very interesting because the Denver Nuggets
Speaker 2: are the only team in the second apron of all
Speaker 2: the teams, a team that's criticized for not paying guys
Speaker 2: a lot. So it's very interesting to see if they
Speaker 2: were just are able to reel him in, like it's
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons reeling in a fish based on what their
Speaker 2: salaries are, because they've got to do something otherwise if
Speaker 2: they do bring him back, but it could be him
Speaker 2: that ends up somewhere else. So that's a very interesting
Speaker 2: scenario to me, books wise and talent wise. That guy
Speaker 2: is very important to that team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think we need to do it
Speaker 1: again here today because we've talked a lot about Peyton
Speaker 1: Watson and we'll just wait for more news there. But
Speaker 1: get that sort of in front of everyone. He could
Speaker 1: be a guy that might be drafted in our breakout
Speaker 1: players draft here. Let's get to this. We're doing four rounds,
Speaker 1: so we're drafting twelve players in total of potential breakout
Speaker 1: players for this coming season. Trivia question to decide who
Speaker 1: gets to go first here. I think I came up
Speaker 1: with a fun one here. You guys will go back
Speaker 1: and forth. It'll be one of these trivia questions where
Speaker 1: I need you to name the ten. There's ten in
Speaker 1: total most Improved Player Award winners who were born outside
Speaker 1: the US. Okay, so international most Improved Player winners.
Speaker 2: And I'll say this right now. What's fun about.
Speaker 1: This is there's the tenth. One is a bit of
Speaker 1: a oh you sly skeets. But there's nine real legit
Speaker 1: international guys, but no duplicate countries.
Speaker 2: No duke. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So maybe that's a little a little hint there
Speaker 1: for you. Task you start first here, give me an
Speaker 1: international mi I P winner.
Speaker 2: It's good you're starting with me because once upon a
Speaker 2: time people thought that he Turgu look like me. So yes,
Speaker 2: turkey A there you go, one down, lots to go.
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say him the way you
Speaker 3: were preambling janis antokumpo.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, it's funny. Yeah, that's a good one. I've Yeah,
Speaker 2: sometimes you forget about how many awards you understanding. Goobo
Speaker 2: won CJ McCall, My god, he's America task.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's American trade back to you to get
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 2: Just give me one more.
Speaker 3: I'll take Dyson Daniels and Nikhil Alexander.
Speaker 2: W Yeah, and two local busy thinking of the Greeks
Speaker 2: and the Turks fighting.
Speaker 1: Can you get just for fun? Can you give me
Speaker 1: any others? Yes, Cameroon, thank you nice. You've got four
Speaker 1: sort of five left. Victor States. Yes, he was born
Speaker 1: not a not on the list here. And there's one
Speaker 1: guy who represented US basketball and international hoops was who
Speaker 1: was born in Lebanon. This was the the tenth one
Speaker 1: born outside of the US that I would have didn't think.
Speaker 1: You gotta go way back. You got to get on
Speaker 1: the twos honey cyclis. But four other you know, gettable ones,
Speaker 1: gettable ones. I don't want to give you the countries.
Speaker 1: I think you'll get them right away. But I will think.
Speaker 1: I think, I think very cold northern countries.
Speaker 2: Marketing. There you go, there we go.
Speaker 1: Now we're getting back to the earlier some of the
Speaker 1: you know, earlier days.
Speaker 2: I guess these are some.
Speaker 1: Maybe these are probably nine's at least one of them
Speaker 1: is Romania.
Speaker 2: That's a tough one. He's a big.
Speaker 1: Yes, he did gotta remember, most Improved used to go
Speaker 1: to weird guys, not now, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: This guy was an NBA champion though from France.
Speaker 3: This guy was an NBA champion from France.
Speaker 1: Michael Piatrice much better, much better, not that good, but
Speaker 1: this guy loved coffee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my final one.
Speaker 1: He had a brother with a damn near identical name
Speaker 1: in the league, Seth Curry. No, but it's like it's
Speaker 1: like that Seth and stuff, very similar to that from Slovenia.
Speaker 1: You got them all, We eventually got them all there.
Speaker 2: There, that's all right, that's all right, just thinking time
Speaker 2: was Yeah, countries, that's countries. Ain't easy.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Trey has the number one pick here in
Speaker 1: our Potential Breakout Players draft. Now, I think it's important
Speaker 1: to note, I mean I had a trivia question about
Speaker 1: most Improved. Doesn't mean we're trying to find like first
Speaker 1: year All Stars or like the next MIP though it can.
Speaker 1: I think there's overlap. But you can go wherever you
Speaker 1: want with whatever your definition will be of a potential
Speaker 1: breakout player.
Speaker 3: T K all right, I'm gonna go with the guy
Speaker 3: who I think very well could make his first All
Speaker 3: Star game.
Speaker 2: This year.
Speaker 3: Definitely could be an MIP candidate as well. Now that
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it, give me Brandon Miller from Hornets,
Speaker 3: because I look at the Hornets now and I think,
Speaker 3: are they Brandon Miller's team or are they Conker Nipples team.
Speaker 3: I kind of think time will tell. The only thing
Speaker 3: we do know, not LaMelo Balls team right now. I'm
Speaker 3: a little encouraged though, that Brandon Miller was actually good
Speaker 3: in the play in games that the Hornets had last
Speaker 3: season twenty three, five and five, hit five threes against
Speaker 3: the Heat, and then when the Hornets got womped by
Speaker 3: the Magic at least fourteen points at four breeze. That's
Speaker 3: better than basically anybody else on the Hornets, I can say.
Speaker 3: I guess LaMelo actually played pretty well. I think LaMelo
Speaker 3: and Miles Bridges were both solid in both of these games,
Speaker 3: and they're both out gone. But I look at the
Speaker 3: Hornets now twenty seven and eleven last season, when Brandon
Speaker 3: Miller scored twenty or more, of the question for me
Speaker 3: is can he be a playmaker for this team? Because
Speaker 3: the Hornets were great offensively last year top five in offense,
Speaker 3: but that was with LaMelo creating a ton of the looks.
Speaker 3: Brandon Miller was much more efficient when Ball was on
Speaker 3: the court, put up bigger counting numbers, at least when
Speaker 3: LaMelo was out. So I look at Brandon Miller as
Speaker 3: a guy who's currently extension eligible. They'll probably do a deal,
Speaker 3: I assume before the start of the season, or maybe
Speaker 3: they say go into restricted free agency next year and
Speaker 3: he's going to try and go for a gigantic max contract.
Speaker 3: But I'm in general think Brandon Miller is a good player.
Speaker 3: I think he steps into the number one responsibility guy
Speaker 3: this year. So that screams breakout to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had one my short list. He was in
Speaker 1: the running some hesitation just with yeah, adding to his game,
Speaker 1: he's a score, He's this guy can score.
Speaker 2: But like is he is? Does he have Mortos game?
Speaker 2: Or is he gonna turn? Is he like RJ? Barrett?
Speaker 1: And sort of that regard and that story where he
Speaker 1: plateau is probably not because he's so young. Here still
Speaker 1: what he's like twenty three, twenty four, So going into
Speaker 1: his fourth.
Speaker 2: Year, it's a good pick.
Speaker 1: Definitely a potential first time all start if the Hornets
Speaker 1: are obviously still good even without LaMelo Ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering just what happens out there with
Speaker 2: the dynamic, But I think Charles Lee as a head
Speaker 2: coach will make sure everybody fires away and strictly that
Speaker 2: just let him fly. They got a lot of shooters
Speaker 2: they do, they do, and they love the guards getting space,
Speaker 2: whether it's them picking and getting out there and firing away.
Speaker 2: So I think Brandon Miller would be part of that.
Speaker 2: He's just gonna be part of that. He's gonna shoot.
Speaker 2: But as you said, the shooters they've added now Grace
Speaker 2: and Allen coming into with that trade from Milesbridge is there.
Speaker 2: They're gonna fire, so they're gonna score a lot, and
Speaker 2: I guess that's what other teams are going to scout
Speaker 2: them as this team that's just going to shoot against
Speaker 2: This is going.
Speaker 3: To be a bombs away team because it's Grayson, Allen, Royce,
Speaker 3: O'Neill and nas Reed were the three guys that they
Speaker 3: brought in that's even more shooting than they're losing with
Speaker 3: Bridges and Ball going out. So I think they're still
Speaker 3: going to be a potent offensive team. But they were
Speaker 3: kind of middle of the pack last year and assists,
Speaker 3: and that's with LaMelo being a passer. I don't know
Speaker 3: that they have a playmaker like that on the roster
Speaker 3: this year unless Miller shows us something that he hasn't
Speaker 3: really flashed so far in his game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the biggest question. Who is running the point?
Speaker 2: I mean, who's running every single possession there?
Speaker 1: Yes, they're hoping it's Kobe White for the most party
Speaker 1: in Knipple's hands a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Brandon.
Speaker 1: Miller off the board.
Speaker 2: Where are you going? That's a fun one, fun one
Speaker 2: to take a guy who's got strictly a bigger role.
Speaker 2: And that's why I'll stick. Trey always influenced me with
Speaker 2: the first pick after I make a mistake in the
Speaker 2: trivia with the angle he goes, I'm going with Colin
Speaker 2: Mury Boyles of the Toronto Raptors because he's going to
Speaker 2: get a bigger role. In the regular season, he didn't
Speaker 2: have that at all. He played only fifty seven games
Speaker 2: and just twenty two minutes per game, and then became
Speaker 2: a huge player, you know, both physically and strategically in
Speaker 2: the offseason or in the postseason for them. He was
Speaker 2: so good playing twenty seve minutes game. I think he's
Speaker 2: going to get up to thirty minutes as they push
Speaker 2: him to do more. Will he start for Yaka Pearl.
Speaker 2: Probably not, but at the same time, because they know
Speaker 2: the limits that Yaka Pearl has culin Murray Boyles and
Speaker 2: his very, very variety of a type of game he
Speaker 2: plays is going to be out there. He's known for defense.
Speaker 2: Of course, he's good at guarding perimeter guys, but he
Speaker 2: showed he can guard big guys as well. But his
Speaker 2: skills of passing out being able to shoot a little
Speaker 2: bit the push shot. I think he's gonna actually run
Speaker 2: pick and rolls himself or he's the ball handler and
Speaker 2: also the picksetter as well. I think at times we're
Speaker 2: going to see this guy be the second best player
Speaker 2: that we know on this team behind Scottie Barnes. Now
Speaker 2: is Kawhi Leon are going to join the team maybe,
Speaker 2: But sometimes you're gonna watch games, are gonna say, well,
Speaker 2: this guy played thirty minutes a game, he had more
Speaker 2: of a factor, played more of a factor than RJ. Barrett,
Speaker 2: or played more of a factor than Manual. Quickly, he's
Speaker 2: gonna be that good and I think he's going to
Speaker 2: be pushed to do that as he has been in
Speaker 2: the offseason, he's gonna be awesome. I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: be really really good. He is, you know, small ball
Speaker 2: center at a perfect time in his career. I think
Speaker 2: it just fits with what's going on in the NBA.
Speaker 2: So I think he's gonna be really really good.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if he's still gonna be limited a
Speaker 1: little bit because of Partle being there. Yeah, if he's
Speaker 1: if Partle's healthy, I mean he purtle will start if
Speaker 1: he's healthy, and I think that's fine. But you're right,
Speaker 1: he'll end games. And he was awesome in the postseason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just wonder, numbers wise, are they gonna.
Speaker 2: Pomp last year in the playoffs he was fourteen and six,
Speaker 2: fourteen point four, six point four boards, one steal, and
Speaker 2: a block. They were really really good numbers in comparison
Speaker 2: to what he did in his regular season. Yeah. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I look at these breakout players and I look at
Speaker 2: the stats and say, WHOA. People are going to look
Speaker 2: at stats of the first record he isn't compared to
Speaker 2: the second, and they're going to be a jump because
Speaker 2: Yakaperl just physically can't do all that much anymore. Will
Speaker 2: he be able to play even you know, seventy games,
Speaker 2: and I think the fact that Calmary Bow is going
Speaker 2: to play way more a guy who was questioned when
Speaker 2: he was drafted does he want to go to the
Speaker 2: team as he's saying, oh no, I don't want to
Speaker 2: go to that team when he was drafted at the
Speaker 2: table there, I think he's just going to be super
Speaker 2: pumped for his new role.
Speaker 1: I like it CMB. I'm going to take Peyton Pritchard
Speaker 1: from CMB to PP. I'll take him because of the
Speaker 1: whole Jalen Brown not being there.
Speaker 2: And I think the.
Speaker 1: Bust and Celtics themselves are banking on the idea of like,
Speaker 1: all right, more opportunity, more chance for Peyton Pritchard to
Speaker 1: sort of to shine here. And he was awesome when
Speaker 1: there was no jail In Brown. Now the smallest of
Speaker 1: sample sizes of something like ten games last year, but
Speaker 1: the numbers are like twenty five, seven and five basically
Speaker 1: like Jamal Murray, like numbers from Pritchard there again when
Speaker 1: there was no Jalen Brown. And he's not there now,
Speaker 1: So you know, I think Tom Haberstro is like, oh,
Speaker 1: they probably see the potential of like like with Peyton
Speaker 1: Pritchard when Jalen Brunson sort of got his own team
Speaker 1: and wasn't under the sort of umbrella of Luka Doncics. Now,
Speaker 1: I think that's a stretch just how they played. JB
Speaker 1: can still put a lot of force on a defense
Speaker 1: and get it to the line. Pritchard has not shown
Speaker 1: that he can do that. But the guy can shoot,
Speaker 1: the guy can score, and looks like a very competent starter,
Speaker 1: obviously getting a lot more starter opportunities last year, so
Speaker 1: I think his numbers are gonna bump up quite a bit,
Speaker 1: will he I think he could be in an All
Speaker 1: Star conversation if he hits the twenty plus plateau and
Speaker 1: is right there with Tatum as the best player on
Speaker 1: the team, he'll be in the mix. But I think
Speaker 1: his number is just with the opportunity alone where he's at.
Speaker 1: He's an older guy here. I'm selecting too. He's in
Speaker 1: his prime, so I feel like he knows his identity here,
Speaker 1: so I'll go Prichard.
Speaker 3: He seems like he's in the exact same situation to
Speaker 3: me that he was last year, because there was no
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum last year, but there was Jalen Brown last year. Year,
Speaker 3: started fifty games, and his numbers were almost identical to
Speaker 3: when he was coming off to the bench. It's pretty crazy,
Speaker 3: But I love Pritchard's game. I think he's one of
Speaker 3: the best one on one players in the league. I
Speaker 3: do wonder who the second All Star would ever be
Speaker 3: on the Celtics, because Celtics fans wanted to be Derek White.
Speaker 3: Like ary Tella knew, this guy is an analytics darling.
Speaker 3: But Peyton pritcherll' is the guy who could maybe average
Speaker 3: twenty a game. I doubt that's the case. He was
Speaker 3: at seventeen last year after coming off a six Man
Speaker 3: of the Year, But I think he's a fun player
Speaker 3: to watch and when he's hot, like he's one of
Speaker 3: the best on fire guys.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah for sure. Yeah. The the description of
Speaker 2: him that game the best, one of the best one
Speaker 2: on one players, it's totally true. When you see him
Speaker 2: get going, he is so so good. Maybe they hope
Speaker 2: that their wings can take another step up unlike last year.
Speaker 2: I mean their wings were fine in Baylor Shireman and
Speaker 2: you're hugoes coming off the bench and those guys, So
Speaker 2: maybe they hope that can happen for Peyton Prichard. But
Speaker 2: the numbers, yeah, I think will be pretty similar in
Speaker 2: comparison to last year.
Speaker 1: I think he could average twenty a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's easily could average a twenty a game.
Speaker 2: But he's gonna be Yeah, he's not. They're not gonna
Speaker 2: go down. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident with that. And like you said, what
Speaker 1: was seventeen he was seventeen a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's gonna be flirting with twenty in
Speaker 2: this league.
Speaker 1: So many guys get there, and he's gonna there's Again,
Speaker 1: I think it's part of the equation with obviously the
Speaker 1: trading of Jayleen Brown and all that, what they see
Speaker 1: in him and these other guys to sort of step
Speaker 1: into a bigger role and they had success. I mean
Speaker 1: they look, they racked up a ton of wins when
Speaker 1: JB wasn't there. Now, I'm not one of those saying
Speaker 1: get rid of JB and you're gonna be better. No,
Speaker 1: I do not believe that at all. But he is
Speaker 1: good and I think there's still one more level for
Speaker 1: him to go to, and that'll be his best chance,
Speaker 1: let's say, at an All Star season here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's the chance that Jason Tatum plays fewer
Speaker 2: games than Jalen Brown did last year, and there's a
Speaker 2: good chance that he takes a step back and Payne
Speaker 2: Pertan has to step up more. And I didn't even
Speaker 2: mention Paul George as a support player, which is good
Speaker 2: for their wings, but also will he be healthy and
Speaker 2: not taking drugs are not allowed to take, So there's
Speaker 2: there's that part of it. But yeah, Peyton Pritchard a
Speaker 2: fun player to watch, no doubt. All Right, round two
Speaker 2: back to UK. I don't know if this is going
Speaker 2: to be allowed. Can Cooper Flag be a breakout player?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked because I was going between Cooper
Speaker 1: and Pritchard and I was like, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's gonna probably be an All Star.
Speaker 2: Hes gonna h maybe maybe he's I think he will.
Speaker 3: He will be in the All Star snub conversation this year,
Speaker 3: I think for Cooper. Flag doesn't turn twenty until December,
Speaker 3: still a teenager right now. After the All Star Game
Speaker 3: last year, he averaged twenty two seven to five with
Speaker 3: a block and a steal per game. Unfortunately, he still
Speaker 3: couldn't shoot. That was the thing.
Speaker 2: We're away. It was horrible.
Speaker 3: It's going to ever come around for him to shoot
Speaker 3: forty four percent from the field in the second half
Speaker 3: of the season, twenty eight from three, but eighty three
Speaker 3: percent of the free throw line. He can shoot the ball,
Speaker 3: and it's not surprising to see a first year player
Speaker 3: struggle to adjust to the different line. So I'm interested
Speaker 3: to see if he can get closer to, like, you know,
Speaker 3: between thirty three and thirty five. But the main thing
Speaker 3: for me with Cooper is not only is a year two,
Speaker 3: He's gonna be playing on a much better team this season.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be upgrading from Max Christy and Brandon Williams
Speaker 3: to Kyrie and other veteran players. Like his most used
Speaker 3: teammate last year was Max Christy, and I'm a Max
Speaker 3: Christie fan, But it's not the same as Kyrie irving
Speaker 3: out there. So he's going to be better. I think
Speaker 3: the team is going to be better. They're coming into
Speaker 3: this year a completely new era in Dallas. The swing
Speaker 3: is going to be can he shoot the ball? If
Speaker 3: he's like thirty five percent from three, we're gonna be
Speaker 3: talking about a guy who's like a top fifteen to
Speaker 3: ten player in the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the jump shot is the swing skill here. Or
Speaker 1: the three point shot. I guess more specifically because I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that you said the numbers after the All
Speaker 1: Star break, and that was despite him he hit like
Speaker 1: eight total three pointers in March. He was really bad
Speaker 1: from three in that month, and it ticked up a
Speaker 1: little bit. But the guy's already probably top twenty five
Speaker 1: in the league when it comes to like transition scoring,
Speaker 1: putting pressure on the rim. And he's still a rookie.
Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me, it's still a teenager. He's talented
Speaker 1: defensively too, both on and off the ball. I think
Speaker 1: he'll be in the definitely in an All Star conversation
Speaker 1: here only in year two, just like Wemby, right, it
Speaker 1: was not the playbook from Wemby, so I liked it.
Speaker 1: I have no problem him being selected here excellently.
Speaker 2: You got no problem with it either. I think he'll
Speaker 2: have a problem with Kyrie Irving doesn't play basketball because
Speaker 2: he is coming back from his injury, and she he
Speaker 2: should be playing, but we don't want it to start
Speaker 2: like last year for Cooper Flag where he didn't have
Speaker 2: a point guard beside him, and they tried the Brandon
Speaker 2: Williams experiment and all that but hopefully Kyrie's out there
Speaker 2: just to literally be able to beat Kyrie Irving and
Speaker 2: take some of the burden off Cooper Flag. Because the
Speaker 2: guys that they tried to get around Cooper Flag, you know,
Speaker 2: you're Zachary resa Ches and you're b beovich Is. They're
Speaker 2: fine players, but yeah they're not Kyrie Irving. But hopefully
Speaker 2: even you're one to year two, he's just better in
Speaker 2: March something he's never had to do, play that games
Speaker 2: and have that much on his shoulder. So k Kyrie's
Speaker 2: really key to me.
Speaker 3: It's also funny because they did start him at point
Speaker 3: guard last year. It was bad, they moved him off,
Speaker 3: they started playing Brandon Williams, and then by the end
Speaker 3: of the year he was at their point guard again,
Speaker 3: and guess what he was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So he's not going to play one hundred percent of
Speaker 3: his minutes with Kyrie, but those minutes are going to
Speaker 3: look good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they will. New coach too there in Dallas. Keep
Speaker 2: forgetting kids out with Dusty May.
Speaker 3: Everything's new there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I sigh the whole thing. All right,
Speaker 2: Cooper gone, where are you going? Oh right, I'm not
Speaker 2: going up with such a big name I went smaller
Speaker 2: in terms of name, but I think Kobe Sanders is
Speaker 2: going to be really good for the Los Angeles Clippers. Okay,
Speaker 2: deep cut, he's good. He's going to his second year.
Speaker 2: He's a big wing, modern day player. He could play
Speaker 2: for Masai Shieri in Dallas because he's that type of wing.
Speaker 2: But with the Clippers, I think he's going to take
Speaker 2: it to the next level here in year two. He's
Speaker 2: twenty four years old. Forget about that, because he's I
Speaker 2: forget that he's a five year college player. But he
Speaker 2: can really shoot it. We saw it last year as
Speaker 2: a catch and shoot guy. He really just let everybody
Speaker 2: else create, and that'll still be a thing with Darius
Speaker 2: Garland being the guy at forty three. Okay, those are
Speaker 2: gonna be good. But over his over half his shots
Speaker 2: were threes. He didn't put the ball on the floor. Tom,
Speaker 2: but you can see that's already developed. He's a combo guard. Really,
Speaker 2: he can put it on the floor. So I think
Speaker 2: that will just develop here in year two, no matter
Speaker 2: who's there, if it's Kuhy or Brandon Ingram, I think
Speaker 2: he'll be able to be a secondary creator. Twenty four
Speaker 2: years old, again, big wing who can defend Kobe Sanders
Speaker 2: numbers going to take a big jump. I think that's
Speaker 2: just a natural thing. I think that Tylu is going
Speaker 2: to push him to create more instead of just standing
Speaker 2: and catching and shooting. As I said, you know, it's
Speaker 2: not quite Duncan Robinson type of number of threes, but
Speaker 2: over half is going to change this year. And when
Speaker 2: he does shoot it from three, he's a really good shooter.
Speaker 2: If he needs to catch and shoot, numbers are really good.
Speaker 2: They're all good. Kobe Sanders moving on up. I had Jordan.
Speaker 1: Miller from the Clippers as a possibility it cause, but
Speaker 1: I don't mind the Kobe Sanders.
Speaker 3: I couldn't decide who to pick either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think Jordan.
Speaker 3: I'm more of a Jordan Miller guy. I think he's
Speaker 3: got a better bag. But you're right, Uh, Kobe Sanders
Speaker 3: can shoot. There's just a lot of guards on the
Speaker 3: Clippers now, a lot of guys who have the ball,
Speaker 3: So it was hard to decide.
Speaker 2: It's who Tyler trust. I think to play more and
Speaker 2: and be a part of the starters. Even so, I
Speaker 2: think Kobe gets it over Jordan Miller. For me, Jordan
Speaker 2: Miller is coming off the bench, Kobe could start both
Speaker 2: both great names.
Speaker 3: Who are they going to start though, Garlis for sure.
Speaker 3: I imagine Chris Dunn will probably be next to him
Speaker 3: as the starter for defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then drafted a point guard at number five.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also Benedicte Mathern is still restricted.
Speaker 3: Ingram has the ball a ton if he actually gets
Speaker 3: just a lot of guys that are here now.
Speaker 2: And Derek Jones Junior too if they want to go
Speaker 2: that road again. Yeah, Ton, All.
Speaker 1: Right, I have the I guess our sixth total pick here?
Speaker 1: Where do I go? Do I go with a deep
Speaker 1: pull here or do I keep it more simple?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if you took Cooper.
Speaker 1: Flag, then it's only right that I get to take
Speaker 1: Dylan Harper here for the San Antonio Spurs. But you
Speaker 1: could debate between Castle and Harper, and maybe both will
Speaker 1: be selected here in our draft. But I'll go with
Speaker 1: the with Dylan Harper, who we saw at times in
Speaker 1: playoff series or at least in games where we're like,
Speaker 1: my good, is he the best player out on the
Speaker 1: court right now? There were instances and he was on
Speaker 1: a floor not only with Wee mien Yama and Castle
Speaker 1: and even Fox, but all whoever was on the other side,
Speaker 1: and there were moments where you're like, this guy is
Speaker 1: the real deal. I think the only hesitation is, like
Speaker 1: classic Spurs, how much do they slow play him in
Speaker 1: terms of just unleashing him, because that's sort of that
Speaker 1: they don't like to do that, right, what do you
Speaker 1: play like? He played like twenty minutes a game during
Speaker 1: the regular season, but then got much more of an
Speaker 1: opportunity of times with the Fox injury and stuff like
Speaker 1: that in the postseason. But I'll bank on this guy
Speaker 1: blossoming into a star here and not even the Spurs
Speaker 1: know this. He's got get more more opportunity, whether it's
Speaker 1: the three guard lineup or not. And you never know,
Speaker 1: maybe an injury hurts a Castle or a Fox and
Speaker 1: you just step into that role even more. But I'll
Speaker 1: take Dylan Harper in confidence in him blossoming even more.
Speaker 2: It's hard to argue Dylan Harper being better than he
Speaker 2: was to see rookie like that do it in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: There just weren't many rookies out there doing it. Culin
Speaker 2: Murray Boyles gets to join the gets to join the
Speaker 2: crew a little different in the first round versus Yeah. Yeah, yeah, listen,
Speaker 2: how many there weren't very many, Rush It's very rare
Speaker 2: for a rookie to have that impact. Yeah. So yeah, Well,
Speaker 2: Dylan Harper, he's he's there in France, along with Daron Fox,
Speaker 2: along with you know, Wemby brought them all there. So
Speaker 2: I think Daron Fox is going to be back part
Speaker 2: of the team. I mean, that's a big question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody would trade for him right now. Of course
Speaker 3: he's going to be back. This is the biggest competitent
Speaker 3: to Dylan Harper is that Darren Darren Fox is making
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars this year, so he's going to have
Speaker 3: to play. Even though we've all seen that Dylan Harper
Speaker 3: is probably better than dearon Fox's for sure.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Spurs want to trade deer and
Speaker 2: Fox though, No, I agree they want to bring him back.
Speaker 3: They want him to prove that the postseason was injury problems.
Speaker 3: We're contributing to his play, but him playing just means
Speaker 3: you're keeping Harper off the court. I'm sorry, everybody wants
Speaker 3: Harper over Fox at this point, Spurs included. I would
Speaker 3: say I probably would rather start Harper, but they did
Speaker 3: the deal for Fox, you know, yeah, I think Harper's
Speaker 3: better than Castle too, So it's not just Fox that
Speaker 3: it's out there. There's two guys in his way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see how many guard lineups they play. As
Speaker 2: you said there the three guard line.
Speaker 3: Play three guards when you got a seven five guy
Speaker 3: back there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, and Obi want to Toby ISAs Harris.
Speaker 2: He's he's a bigger four that they have there. It's
Speaker 2: just a fun time. You know, it comes August every
Speaker 2: NBA season where the name's got to get super creative.
Speaker 2: You just get a little bit more great. But Tobias
Speaker 2: Harris is a bigger four. And so yeah, that's a
Speaker 2: weird one. That's a weird one to say. You know,
Speaker 2: I thought about it as an Obi No, I'll forget,
Speaker 2: I'll stop. But yeah, the interesting the guard lineups are interesting.
Speaker 1: Did you did any of you have Castle on your
Speaker 1: list here? And no I did not, not as a
Speaker 1: as a breakout player. I mean that he definitely could
Speaker 1: be a potential first time all start right absolutely with that.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you want him to shore up
Speaker 1: some things in terms of turning the ball over and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But it also did as the postseason
Speaker 1: went on, So I think I had Castle in the
Speaker 1: mixtpage around going Harper, I won't overthink it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could easily be a sort of a thunder
Speaker 2: situation with San Antonio where you throw in a second
Speaker 2: player along with Shay Gilgess, Alexander or along with Victor
Speaker 2: Webbinyama to join the all starts. That's gonna absolutely to
Speaker 2: happen at some point.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Spurs will win a lot
Speaker 1: of regular season games too, uh and probably warrant an
Speaker 1: All Star too. Okay, third round back to trick her be.
Speaker 3: This guy will not make an All Star team, Okay, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll ever make an All Star team
Speaker 3: in his career.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 3: Ty Jerome from the Memphis Grizzlies only played fifteen games
Speaker 3: last season, but a I think the Grizzlies are more
Speaker 3: settled this year than they were last year. I just
Speaker 3: think Tijerome is legitimately a good player. A small sample
Speaker 3: size from last season only those fifteen games, but went
Speaker 3: from nineteen points, three rebounds, five assists on forty seven
Speaker 3: forty two eighty eight shooting splits better per thirty six
Speaker 3: numbers than he had when he was in Cleveland. This season,
Speaker 3: he finished third and sixth Man of the Year voting.
Speaker 3: He's just so crafty. He makes his wide open three pointers,
Speaker 3: but he's great at just getting to this floater and
Speaker 3: he's got really, really good touch. He's on a player
Speaker 3: option for nine point seven million dollars next season, which
Speaker 3: means he's playing for a big payday. If he's able
Speaker 3: to stay healthy, put up some numbers like he did
Speaker 3: last season, and go into free agency next year, he
Speaker 3: could easily make more than ten million. I'm thinking because
Speaker 3: he's just a solid ball handler, a good he's a
Speaker 3: starter for the Grizzlies. He's going to be like one
Speaker 3: of their number one options, but he's probably best like
Speaker 3: as a third guard who's a sometimes starter. Is a
Speaker 3: sixth man option for you. I just think Ti Jerome
Speaker 3: gets buckets when he's out there, and the Grizzlies are
Speaker 3: going to need somebody to score.
Speaker 1: Pair nicely with your Grizzlies over pick from late last
Speaker 1: week too. You have little confidence in them at least
Speaker 1: winning what thirty games or being better than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I imagine he does start, even though he would
Speaker 2: work perfectly as the sixth man as he did for
Speaker 2: the Cavs as that guy. But they need scoring, as
Speaker 2: you said, so yeah, I mean Jalen Wells and Scottie
Speaker 2: Pippen Junior could be your starring backcourt kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But because he needs to score, it would be a
Speaker 2: mistake to try and bring him off the bench. Even
Speaker 2: though Isaiah Stewart wants to bring back the grit and
Speaker 2: grind Memphis Grizzlies now here. As a member of the Grizzlies,
Speaker 2: you need scores, and so yeah, I do think he starts,
Speaker 2: he's gonna score a ton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've always liked Ti Jeromes Well, who doesn't.
Speaker 3: Can't really disagree disliked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's not. When I said to mention, now
Speaker 2: that I've said GrITT and grind out loud, ty Drome
Speaker 2: don't fit into that. He is not that kind of player.
Speaker 2: He's not. He's not grinding.
Speaker 3: According to Basketball Reference, his nickname is Milk, which is
Speaker 3: pretty funny. But also it's said his middle name is Jeremy,
Speaker 3: so his name is ty Jeremy Jerome.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing with him is like, can you just play?
Speaker 1: Can you play more than half a season? He had
Speaker 1: one full season, right yeah, really third and six man,
Speaker 1: right right, that was one really really good year and
Speaker 1: then last year, like he said, fifteen games, you have
Speaker 1: the one year they missed basically completely other seasons. He's
Speaker 1: like a half sort of a type of guy.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, they have guards. He used to stay out there.
Speaker 2: They have Walter Clayton Junior. Is he going to play
Speaker 2: a lot? We'll see. Dangel Russell's got to be cut
Speaker 2: at some point. He's not got to play for them.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt they're gonna buy him out. So there's
Speaker 2: there's some competition there.
Speaker 1: Hey, competition's good, man, it is good.
Speaker 2: They're you know, they're trying to be a deep team.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's what the roster is made up of.
Speaker 1: Right now, all right, your pick here, tasks where you going.
Speaker 2: I'm going to the Miami Heat and uh nikolay Jovich
Speaker 2: is going to bounce back, Wow, bounce back here? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why not. He's a very skilled guy. We know that
Speaker 2: he's a huge wing. He can shoot the ball. Last
Speaker 2: year that didn't happen. The year before it did. Jannis
Speaker 2: walked into that Miami Heat locker room, he saw Yovich.
Speaker 2: She said, it's going to be easy for you this year,
Speaker 2: that could be true. If Giannis is playing basketball, there's
Speaker 2: gonna be open shots to be had. Will Yovic be
Speaker 2: out there shooting them? I don't know. Hark Spolshra didn't
Speaker 2: trust him last year and so he went to the bench.
Speaker 2: But this year, along with Bam and Janis and Andrew
Speaker 2: Wiggins as your star in the front court, I don't
Speaker 2: know who goes along at that shooting guard spot. Not sure.
Speaker 2: Davian Mitchell is definitely going to start at the point
Speaker 2: guard spot. But it's so interesting just how it all
Speaker 2: bounces around for this Jovic team with with Pelly Larsen
Speaker 2: or Tim Hardaway as a shooters, Tim Hardaway the main shooter,
Speaker 2: or Simone Fontecio sort of being out there as a shooter.
Speaker 2: You could see that being the idea and Yovic, you know,
Speaker 2: remaining on the bench. But I could see him sort
Speaker 2: of being a four or five combo with Bobby Portis
Speaker 2: as your backup bigs. He is six' ten uh and
Speaker 2: he's got to get better at when he has a
Speaker 2: guard on, him just to take advantage of. That and
Speaker 2: he could kind of replicate a little bit of what
Speaker 2: Haimahak as was for that team when he went To,
Speaker 2: milwaukee just more of a, Hey i'm going to take
Speaker 2: over here and take advantage of my situation and score
Speaker 2: because he can't handle a. Bit SO i see it bounce.
Speaker 2: BACK i see it bounce back for this GUY. Dvd
Speaker 2: but with Norm out who went To chicago, though he
Speaker 2: has the opportunity here right now to be able to
Speaker 2: score a. Lot so we'll.
Speaker 1: See it's a sneaky pick because like his bar is,
Speaker 1: very very very.
Speaker 2: Low.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah so it's not like he needs to turn
Speaker 1: into an all star. Player he just needs to be
Speaker 1: solid rotation. Player it would be a hell of a
Speaker 1: jump from the DISASTER i would say the last year.
Speaker 3: Was, Yeah unfortunately for, me his contract is looking a
Speaker 3: little Bit patrick williamsy and that would be the breakout for.
Speaker 3: Me is do literally? Anything oh, yeah BECAUSE i DON'T
Speaker 3: i don't know what he's good.
Speaker 2: At you can he can. Shoot last year is very,
Speaker 2: bad but he can, shoot AND i think he can
Speaker 2: take advantage of his as a secondary. Playmaker i'm going
Speaker 2: to go buy you and use my. Height that's. IT i,
Speaker 2: mean he's not a ball, handler Like i'm taking you
Speaker 2: taking over a one on one matchup it ain't. Happening
Speaker 2: but With janni's getting, Attention, bam getting some, attention he
Speaker 2: can be. There so This miami heat, offensive let's fire it.
Speaker 2: AROUND i Think jovic can take advantage of that, too
Speaker 2: Like haikas did last. Year but, yes the contract is
Speaker 2: and the numbers even very similar To Pat. Williams and
Speaker 2: that number contract starts this year right, here right, now
Speaker 2: four years for that, big big. Contract but when he
Speaker 2: signed it last, year he had improved and so we all, thought,
Speaker 2: okay four for, sixty not bad if it's you, KNOW
Speaker 2: i may be. Inflating the number might not be exactly for,
Speaker 2: sixty but we all, thought, okay that's. Decent but last,
Speaker 2: year yeah it, was it was really. Bad so he
Speaker 2: sees that Fellow, european come on, Over, yennis come on
Speaker 2: over and, say, RIGHT i can play with. You because
Speaker 2: the best that we've ever seen him probably was when
Speaker 2: he played For. Serbia he looked, awesome and he's playing
Speaker 2: with Theokch so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Here we'll SEE i, mean, look the depth chart is
Speaker 1: obviously much more shallow now after the, trade for you,
Speaker 1: Honest so he's bumped, up like you're saying in the pecking,
Speaker 1: Order like it's sort of, like, okay, yeah pro prove
Speaker 1: why we gave you that deal and the promise we
Speaker 1: saw or the potential we saw on.
Speaker 2: You SO i hear your thinking. There, Yeah AND i
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna be as bad as he was last.
Speaker 2: Year i'm with you on. That, Yeah sposial trust. Him
Speaker 2: that's the thing that's most. Worrisome he played seventeen minutes per.
Speaker 2: Game he didn't play a. Lot, yeah for the, field
Speaker 2: he was. Bad, Yeah Pat williams is a good definitely
Speaker 2: good comparison you never want to.
Speaker 3: Hear, Yeah Patrick williams didn't even make my long list
Speaker 3: for breakout players. HERE i did think About Pella larson, Though,
Speaker 3: yeah on that album he seems like a. Guy he
Speaker 3: seems like he's going to be the.
Speaker 2: Default, starter probably at very.
Speaker 3: Least so that's a good. Opportunity, yes but it'd be
Speaker 3: great for The heat If yovich can do anything this.
Speaker 2: Year, Yeah Pelly larson was a starter for a lot
Speaker 2: of last. Year he started fifty four games because he's
Speaker 2: that connector type of, guy and he could start. Again
Speaker 2: AND i thought the debate was you know him Or
Speaker 2: Norm powell Starting norm. Powellout it's Probably Pelley larson just
Speaker 2: to keep keep, it keep it. Flowing he can handle the,
Speaker 2: ball but could Be yovic too at. Time but At,
Speaker 2: YOVICH i mean he's so. BIG i think That plasi
Speaker 2: is probably the guy all right for the ninth.
Speaker 1: Pick, OVERALL i am going to Take wizards. FORWARD i
Speaker 1: guess he's a guard, forward combo type. Guy Keishan, George
Speaker 1: i'm going to take him to continue his trajectory, here he'd.
Speaker 2: Be entering his third.
Speaker 1: YEAR i FIGURE i have a vet In, PRITCHARD i
Speaker 1: have a second year guy In. Harper so give me
Speaker 1: that classic third year where we've seen players really blossom
Speaker 1: and sort of level. Up and last, YEAR i mean
Speaker 1: the numbers were. SOLID i mean nobody was watching The,
Speaker 1: WIZARDS i get unless you caught The bam game against.
Speaker 2: Them but he.
Speaker 1: Played nearly fifty, games so he was a little injured.
Speaker 1: THERE i think he had an elbow injury near the
Speaker 1: end of the. Year fifteen points per, game five, boards five.
Speaker 1: Assists so he is to, me like Keisch On, george
Speaker 1: is this classic like sort of just does a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything really solid as sort of like your
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth guy, here shot thirty eight percent from
Speaker 1: deep on about five and a half three point at
Speaker 1: tens per. Game it's a really good free throw. Shooter
Speaker 1: he's got a great just. Shot he's very confident in.
Speaker 1: It needs to see it like uptick like overall from the.
Speaker 1: Floor but, again fourteen points or fifteen points per, GAME
Speaker 1: i could see that going. Up now there's all a
Speaker 1: lot of new guys, there, like how will?
Speaker 2: That how will we work.
Speaker 1: With Trey young And Anthony, davis Who trey AND i
Speaker 1: talked about probably having a monster couple first months, here
Speaker 1: whether to set the tone or eventually get moved or
Speaker 1: whatever for that next contract or final big contract ad
Speaker 1: he's planned. For BUT i believe In Kishon george from
Speaker 1: what we've seen here in two years again sort of
Speaker 1: in the wasteland Of washington where now there's actually a
Speaker 1: little bit of. Hope there'll be some more EYEBALLS i
Speaker 1: assume on this team just because of the star, power
Speaker 1: AND i think people are, gonna you, know casuals or,
Speaker 1: whatever are gonna be, like, oh who is this guy
Speaker 1: with you know the crazy? Hair there is guys can.
Speaker 1: Play So Kishon george is not an all star. Level
Speaker 1: i'm not saying that by any, means but just improving
Speaker 1: on the two years we've seen so.
Speaker 3: Far there is going to be less opportunity for him
Speaker 3: this year because they're going to be bringing in three
Speaker 3: new starters for The, wizards all of whom are going
Speaker 3: to have the ball quite a.
Speaker 2: Bit but that's better For Keisha.
Speaker 3: George he is probably a little bit over taxed than
Speaker 3: this is a good spot for him to be like
Speaker 3: a bench unit runner and maybe a four option in
Speaker 3: a starting.
Speaker 2: Lineup i'm with.
Speaker 3: You he can just kind of do a little bit of,
Speaker 3: everything and that's a solid player to have. Around and
Speaker 3: now he's going to be playing on a team, that
Speaker 3: for the first time in his, career is efforting towards
Speaker 3: winning games and figuring out the right way to play.
Speaker 3: Together i'm Just i'm literally excited for The wizards this,
Speaker 3: year at least For november And. December i'll see how
Speaker 3: it goes after, that but the beginning should be.
Speaker 2: Cool, yeah it was. Interesting you guys said that with
Speaker 2: The clippers that there's a lot of. Options same thing
Speaker 2: with The. Wizards it's, like who do you. TAKE i
Speaker 2: kind of wanted to Take Alex sar as a guy
Speaker 2: who gets better or his number is going to inflate a.
Speaker 2: Lot probably not If Anthony davis plays beside, him but
Speaker 2: there's games Where Anthony davis isn't gonna play And alex
Speaker 2: r is just that. Good and so it is interesting
Speaker 2: with how much talent this team, has even besides those
Speaker 2: three new starters In, Trey Anthony davis and DE. Bonsa,
Speaker 2: yeah Your Keyshawn george, Is You're Alex, Ars Trey johnson's
Speaker 2: there's just a lot of guys you can score on this.
Speaker 2: Team you're. BUBBS i, mean there's gonna be guys who
Speaker 2: take a back seat and aren't gonna be able to.
Speaker 2: Score but it is.
Speaker 1: Exciting but that's okay With keisha On Like tray, SAID
Speaker 1: i think like that's A i don't think he's never
Speaker 1: going to BE i don't think a twenty five point
Speaker 1: per game, score but he does all the other, things
Speaker 1: the solid, Starter he plays defense hard. Enough can't wait
Speaker 1: to see him again on a team with some promise,
Speaker 1: here maybe to even sniff a plan or something like. That,
Speaker 1: LIKE i think he's just gonna get a lot more
Speaker 1: attention from the rest of the. League oh, yeah because like,
Speaker 1: again nobody's watching. Him nobody just cares about The. Wizards
Speaker 1: why would have you yea the last couple of.
Speaker 2: Years, Yeah and that's WHY i had difficulty picking a breakout,
Speaker 2: player BECAUSE i want those numbers to go. Up you see,
Speaker 2: It you'll get more. Attention Kishan george to get more,
Speaker 2: attention Alex aar get more. Attention but When trey's there
Speaker 2: And AD's, there end to? Bounce is? There how much
Speaker 2: his number is going to jump? Up how much are
Speaker 2: his fifteen per game last? Year, Yeah, george can it
Speaker 2: go up a?
Speaker 1: Lot, yeah but he'll be a classic guy if The
Speaker 1: wizards maybe impressed people early on or, Whatever like you'll
Speaker 1: you'll see like twelve other fan bases, going, hey can
Speaker 1: we trade for Kish On. George he'll be that type
Speaker 1: of player where we're, Like, wow he'd be awesome in our. System,
Speaker 1: wow he can do a bit of. Everything SO i
Speaker 1: think his, yeah he's just his spotlight will get a
Speaker 1: little brighter. Here AND i do think HE'LL i think
Speaker 1: the numbers will will tick up. HERE i mean the
Speaker 1: guys he won't even be he's twenty two to twenty,
Speaker 1: three turns twenty three next, season like halfway through the,
Speaker 1: Season So he's still a fairly young.
Speaker 2: Guy all, Right final. Round lots of names, Left.
Speaker 3: Yeah there's a lot of names left in THE. Nba
Speaker 3: i'm taking a random flyer on a guy THAT i
Speaker 3: just think is. Good not gonna be a starter for
Speaker 3: his team this, year BUT i think he'll play More
Speaker 3: Joan Baron Jay okay love The Minnesota. TIMBERWOLVES i think
Speaker 3: he's Got gobert level, talent to be quite, honest with
Speaker 3: a little bit better. Athleticism it's worked out well for
Speaker 3: him in The minnesota front court with the moves they
Speaker 3: made during the. Offseason Julius randall's, Gone nasried is. Gone
Speaker 3: they basically haven't replaced any of their front court, guys
Speaker 3: so just by the way the personnel shakes, Up, yeah
Speaker 3: he's gonna have a little bit more, time but also
Speaker 3: bringing in the best pas that's been on the Timber
Speaker 3: wolves in The Anthony edwards era And LaMelo.
Speaker 2: Ball that's good for.
Speaker 3: Centers Rudy gobert has a long history of being frustrated
Speaker 3: about not getting. Passes LaMelo's going to throw your, passes
Speaker 3: AND i think that some of those will go To Baron. Jay,
Speaker 3: now the problem for him is That Rudy gobert is
Speaker 3: a pretty healthy, player like he plays a lot of
Speaker 3: games for the majority of his, career seventy six games last,
Speaker 3: Season so there's not a massive opportunity For Baron jay
Speaker 3: Unless gobert picks up some kind of an. Injury but
Speaker 3: the size and the springing this and the fact that
Speaker 3: this is another guy who's still only nineteen years, old
Speaker 3: there's talent there for.
Speaker 2: Sure it's just.
Speaker 3: Going to be a matter of him having to wait
Speaker 3: out Go beart's and to his prime before he can
Speaker 3: assume the number one. Job BUT i think we'll see
Speaker 3: a lot more of him this.
Speaker 2: SEASON i don't think there's any question he's going to
Speaker 2: play a time yet WHEN i was read out he's
Speaker 2: a talented. Player we know that this is only year,
Speaker 2: two so, yes that's a good. Pick numbers won't be, Amazing,
Speaker 2: no maybe the block numbers will be, really really good
Speaker 2: because he's good at time. Blocks he even if he
Speaker 2: plays eighteen twenty minutes a, game the blocks will be.
Speaker 1: GOOD i saw The wolves are doing uh A paris
Speaker 1: trip as.
Speaker 2: Well, YEAH i was In. Paris my biggest question was
Speaker 2: where is you want bear in? Shade BECAUSE i couldn't. Tell,
Speaker 2: oh is he not in that? Photo he must be
Speaker 2: right Beside Rudy. Gobert but he doesn't look. Huge maybe
Speaker 2: it's because he's got a lean. Back But rudy looks
Speaker 2: a lot taller than. HIM i just didn't know. Him
Speaker 2: rudy is taller than, YEAH i think.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean he's listed at six. Eleven Bear, Yeah
Speaker 2: rudy's he's also. Bearon jay is also wearing sunglasses so, well,
Speaker 2: future so.
Speaker 3: Bright he has to wear shade and higher block percentage
Speaker 3: Than Rudy. Gobert you have a higher blocks percentage Than Victor.
Speaker 3: Webbinama only time will.
Speaker 2: Tell, man the guy blocks a ton of. Shot no he,
Speaker 2: didn't he. DOESN'T i still got.
Speaker 1: Him, okay just, uh just because you're talking heights there
Speaker 1: like Ran we saw this the other day WHEN i
Speaker 1: was going through.
Speaker 2: Teams the most surprising seven footer in the. League can
Speaker 2: you name? It how it is to?
Speaker 1: Me, okay, good good. Question he is twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Old we talk about him a, lot and he's he's
Speaker 1: changing teams for the for the first. TIME i just
Speaker 1: never think of this guy as a seven.
Speaker 2: Footer Trey lyles, No Walker, Kessler.
Speaker 1: No no inter us From. Spain that might help you out.
Speaker 3: Here Oh santi Al, Dama, yeah Kill dama has never
Speaker 3: felt that.
Speaker 1: Seven you if you had asked me how tall do
Speaker 1: you think he, Is i'm telling You i'd Go i'd
Speaker 1: probably go. SIX i would say six, eight, six. Nine
Speaker 1: i'm Like i'd lean more towards that. Size so seeing
Speaker 1: seven feet on the basketball, reference, man mind boggling to.
Speaker 2: Me, yeah doesn't feel like a seventh well not at,
Speaker 2: all not at. All and you, think, oh Al dama's
Speaker 2: here's another thing that people think of Al. Dama great
Speaker 2: shooter now, Willing, yeah sometimes the.
Speaker 1: Same all, right so you're your final pick, here let's
Speaker 1: stay In.
Speaker 2: Spain, Wow Ugo. Gonzales, yeah that's it's gonna happen at some,
Speaker 2: point Like Brad stevens right. Now, HEY i sound like.
Speaker 2: ME i said it his name so many times last
Speaker 2: year because you watch him and he is the kind
Speaker 2: of guy you want on your, team kind of like
Speaker 2: you brought up as On. George, yeah you look at that.
Speaker 2: Guy oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah perfect plug and play
Speaker 2: type of. Guy he'll play in the corner and he
Speaker 2: can shoot, that but then he'll come rebound. Anything he
Speaker 2: can put it on the floor a little bit as
Speaker 2: a secondary playmaker. Guy and he just works so hard
Speaker 2: defensively on both, sides SO i believe in him that
Speaker 2: he can slash uh and do that kind of. Thing,
Speaker 2: now he only average four points per game last, year
Speaker 2: so this is a Fun, hey breakout. Player that guy
Speaker 2: there who averaged four because is going to go. Up
Speaker 2: you can double. It he can double that very. Easily
Speaker 2: and they're gonna be games When Paul george doesn't, play
Speaker 2: Where Jason tatum doesn't, play and of Course shyerman's gonna,
Speaker 2: play And Ron Harper junior is gonna, play And Sam
Speaker 2: howse is gonna play on the. Wing BUT i think
Speaker 2: this guy is going to force himself into the lineup
Speaker 2: because he's a second year guy Like Baron. Jay he's
Speaker 2: super super young and he was that. Good so, yeah
Speaker 2: put him in. There and there's, AGAIN i don't know
Speaker 2: how many Games jason dam is gonna. Play we expect
Speaker 2: him to play a, Ton we Expect Paul george to
Speaker 2: play a, ton but it also could be a situation
Speaker 2: where their wings need to play a.
Speaker 1: Lot, okay what do you think Of gonzalez? Here breakout?
Speaker 3: Player, well he only has to average like thirty a
Speaker 3: game to put up the honest. Numbers they're hoping for a. Breakout, yeah,
Speaker 3: YEAH i think he can improve on his playoff performance
Speaker 3: zero points in the. PLAYOFFS i was also not super
Speaker 3: encouraged By Ugo gonzalez during the Summer. League but this
Speaker 3: is a guy that's just going to be in my.
Speaker 3: Crossairs no offense To, gonzalez but like you could have Had,
Speaker 3: giannis and that's what it is for. ME i think
Speaker 3: he can be a lot. Better it's just hard to
Speaker 3: tell him The south because they have so many players
Speaker 3: at the wing. Positions but this is a guy that
Speaker 3: obviously they feel is a big part of their plans going,
Speaker 3: forward and he does do a lot of stuff as.
Speaker 2: Well there will be a dock or a story told
Speaker 2: one day about that trade and if it was legitimate or,
Speaker 2: not if they could have legitimately Got janis For Hugo,
Speaker 2: gunzales Because i'm not sold on. That did they want
Speaker 2: to Take giannis huge contract and bring it To. BOSTON
Speaker 2: i don't know about. THAT i don't think that's the
Speaker 2: case of a guy who has been hurt for the
Speaker 2: last several years in your private. EQUITY i don't think
Speaker 2: they want to buy into The jana. Stocks so whether it's.
Speaker 1: True or, not though it's out, there those rumors and LIKE, jj,
Speaker 1: yeah was he really offered For Omari?
Speaker 3: Stottmeyer who, knows but that's in the annals OF nba.
Speaker 2: History he.
Speaker 1: Was do you know how you quiet that? Noise you
Speaker 1: come out and have a breakout performance here if You're.
Speaker 1: Gonzales i'm, not of, course not thirty points per, game honest,
Speaker 1: style but you, Show, oh there's a reason that they
Speaker 1: obviously wanted to keep me, around saw potential in, me
Speaker 1: And i'm on my way to turning into sort of
Speaker 1: an all star. Player it's a lot of, pressure a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure that maybe he doesn't. Deserve, honestly it's
Speaker 1: not his fault that his name is LinkedIn these honest.
Speaker 1: Trades but, yeah he's a good. Player he's gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Player all.
Speaker 1: RIGHT i have the final pick. Here i'll throw some honorable,
Speaker 1: mentions potential names THAT i thought about maybe you guys
Speaker 1: did as. Well back to The, WOLVES i MEAN jd,
Speaker 1: McDaniels i mean you talk about having an, opportunity because
Speaker 1: sometimes that's what this just comes down. To like they're
Speaker 1: basically saying you're you're the you're our four now, man
Speaker 1: you're sort of a small ball Four nelly would love,
Speaker 1: it have at. It and now he gets to play
Speaker 1: Alongside Lamla ball and there's still ant and like he
Speaker 1: could have a really potential maybe blossoming into An all
Speaker 1: star like. Year who knows Jaegor gentleman of The.
Speaker 2: Nets he was on my.
Speaker 1: List, yeah, LOOK i hate saying, this but he looked
Speaker 1: good At Summer. LEAGUE i was a little more impressed
Speaker 1: with WHAT i saw from him team last. Year yeah oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Yeah so still believe in him bounce back here for
Speaker 1: he can murray you talking about a guy that was.
Speaker 1: Injured his like numbers have sort of gone, down down?
Speaker 1: Down can he turn that?
Speaker 2: Around? YEAH i got into the breakout final with The Sacramento.
Speaker 2: Kinks If Dematas sabonis is, good is it a breakout
Speaker 2: year for? Him but, yeah those guys at bit to The.
Speaker 1: Bulls bozelles could continue a trend, here right, Sure, uh.
Speaker 3: Yep he should be better than last. Year last year he.
Speaker 3: Plateau that's, Fine like if you don't go backwards in year,
Speaker 3: two you did?
Speaker 2: Good? Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1: Uh Peyton watson to to you know how we sort
Speaker 1: of started this whole thing with him in these sign
Speaker 1: and trade. Rumors it's like A Tvd it's, like where is?
Speaker 2: HE i, MEAN i don't even know what the best case.
Speaker 1: Is maybe it is still to be In denver play
Speaker 1: alongside obviously the joker there for him to sort of, go,
Speaker 1: uh you, know in more of a role and stuff like.
Speaker 1: That But i'm ultimately coming down and picking between three
Speaker 1: young centers mallow watch where now in The bucks And
Speaker 1: Donovan klay And i'm gonna take clinging Because i'm intrigued
Speaker 1: by him now in an offense WHERE i assume he's
Speaker 1: just going to be doing a lot more pick and
Speaker 1: rolls With John morant there and with the return Of Damian,
Speaker 1: lillard and he needs to be in more of those.
Speaker 1: Actions was used differently when it was sort of him
Speaker 1: And dennyovdia and he's sort of just hanging up top
Speaker 1: and trailing at the three point. Line but the guy
Speaker 1: already took on a heavy minutes. Load heavier minutes load
Speaker 1: last season compared to the year, before. Increased his usage
Speaker 1: still shot better from the floor from deep as he
Speaker 1: added that three point shot a little bit up to
Speaker 1: his assist in rebounding. Rates he's one of the league's
Speaker 1: best offensive rebounders, already and he got better at staying
Speaker 1: on the floor by not, fouling so that was key.
Speaker 1: Too So i'll take him here to round out breakout.
Speaker 1: Players it won't be a numbers like whoa, overload but
Speaker 1: the way he'll be used again in sort of the
Speaker 1: new system there with these players coming, In i'm intrigued at.
Speaker 1: Least SO i was sort of debating between all these,
Speaker 1: centers who will pop off the mot.
Speaker 3: Most, well he's a guaranteed starter on The, blazers SO
Speaker 3: i think that's a good. CHOICE i don't think IT'S i,
Speaker 3: MEAN i assume where we'll start for The, bucks But
Speaker 3: Miles turner is, there, yeah and then you Know Big
Speaker 3: mark is holding it down for Until malawatch is. Ready
Speaker 3: But malawatch made my list as, well And i'm in,
Speaker 3: general Like i'm a clinging. Fan to, me the thing
Speaker 3: that he really needs to improve is his speed and
Speaker 3: like being able to change ends of the. Court AND
Speaker 3: i think it's going to be even more important this
Speaker 3: year playing with a team that's like eighty percent point.
Speaker 3: Guards they're going to need him. Running but it also
Speaker 3: means he's gonna have good setup. Guys SO i thought
Speaker 3: he took a step forward last season and he's just
Speaker 3: a good. Player disappointing, playoffs but, like, yeah you're gonna get, Swimby, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah you got to learn from.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: Yeah and he was the guy that they kept for
Speaker 2: because they didn't want to trade him For Jalen. Brown
Speaker 2: is that? Correct that's that's the, one, Right so that's
Speaker 2: a good thing that you guys didn't mention him at.
Speaker 2: All you didn't Mention Jalen. Brown so that's a good
Speaker 2: thing For Donovin kling and that he just has been
Speaker 2: he doesn't but obviously a, very very very talented, guy
Speaker 2: and that's why they want to keep him around because
Speaker 2: he was that.
Speaker 1: Good any other names on your leftover?
Speaker 3: List uh, yeah, Uh malawatch like you, Said joeman like you,
Speaker 3: Said Will riley is a wizard for. Me and he
Speaker 3: also has the most broken out face in THE. Nba
Speaker 3: that guy looks like he's fourteen years.
Speaker 2: Old, yes good, situation.
Speaker 3: Guys Hella, larson LIKE i, said just going to step
Speaker 3: into a starting lineup. Spot it seems like with the,
Speaker 3: HEAT i Think, bona Don bona is going to look
Speaker 3: good for The sixers in the games That embiid, Misses
Speaker 3: they're going to look like a, fast athletic team and
Speaker 3: he's just going to catch alley oops from all of the.
Speaker 3: Guards SO i think he's going to look. Good and
Speaker 3: just a random dude THAT i think is a decent,
Speaker 3: Player Zaire. Williams he's going to be like the eleventh
Speaker 3: man on The Los Angeles, lakers BUT i think he
Speaker 3: can get up to ninth.
Speaker 2: Man, yeah that's a that's one that's been on a roller.
Speaker 2: Coaster high draft, pick Left memphis to go To brooklyn
Speaker 2: and he's kind of just evaporated in terms of THE. Nba,
Speaker 2: yeah In brooklyn, there so, yeah we'll. See, yeah but
Speaker 2: L a will give plenty of wings a. Shot so,
Speaker 2: yeah that's a good. One do you have any other?
Speaker 1: Names?
Speaker 2: Uh, WELL i want to pick somebody from The Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Hawks is Is Ason newell going to have a breakout?
Speaker 2: Years Devin carter going to be great coming over From.
Speaker 2: Sacramento Is Aaron wiggins just going to have a bigger
Speaker 2: role than he? Had?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: In, okay see can.
Speaker 3: They keep the dynasty? Alive three Straight most improved players
Speaker 3: after Trades Aaron wiggins might be the guy you would
Speaker 3: have to. Do dort averages twenty a, game don't be to.
Speaker 2: To, win would be very. Top BUT i don't think it's.
Speaker 3: LIKELY i don't Think dort's showing up to training camp
Speaker 3: with a deep.
Speaker 2: BAG i keep Forgetting dorts on The hawks. Complete, yeah other.
Speaker 3: GUYS i Consider jared McCain for The. Thunder i'm predicting
Speaker 3: a top three Six man of The year vote for this.
Speaker 2: Guy, yeah that's an interesting.
Speaker 3: One there's a lot of like second guards there now In.
Speaker 3: Okay see With dort, going that spot's kind of. Open
Speaker 3: it's like probably a J mitchell will, start but it
Speaker 3: could Be Cason. Wallace those two will be dueling for
Speaker 3: the six. Man and Then jared mccainnon involved as. Well
Speaker 3: And Anthony BLACK i think is in an interesting situation
Speaker 3: With Jalen suggs there on The Magic Like suggs is constantly.
Speaker 3: Injured black got hurt last year as. Well but this
Speaker 3: is a guy that's coming up for his second. Contract
Speaker 3: he's better, inside he's got better size Than Jalen, suggs
Speaker 3: But suggs is a better. Playmaker it doesn't feel like
Speaker 3: these are two guys that should be playing in the backcourt,
Speaker 3: together especially When Desmond bain is. There SO i feel
Speaker 3: like the magic got to figure something out Between polo
Speaker 3: And franz and also Between suggs And.
Speaker 2: Black we'll.
Speaker 1: SEE i learned this weekend Than Anthony black's, Brother Beckham
Speaker 1: black is like a five. Star is supposed to be point.
Speaker 1: Guard it's supposed to. Better, yeah, Yeah, Black, YEAH i.
Speaker 1: SAW i believe. IT i was, like holy, crap.
Speaker 2: He looks so he looks a lot like, yes.
Speaker 3: My my buddy coaches the under seventeen, team and that
Speaker 3: was the guy he was raving. About he's like back
Speaker 3: And black will be the best player from. Them it's the.
Speaker 1: Coolest name to Be black And black And Jojo Boomja
Speaker 1: boomshey where the two stars your?
Speaker 2: Team there you?
Speaker 1: Go all, right those are some potential breakout. Players, obviously
Speaker 1: lots of other names still out. There let us know
Speaker 1: in the, stream, team let us know in the YouTube,
Speaker 1: Comments holler at us On spotify or on all our
Speaker 1: social media. Channels that was a lot of. Fun uh
Speaker 1: here for A monday. Morning we'll call it, there but
Speaker 1: later this week we might be. Back at some point this,
Speaker 1: week we'll See Jad you're headed to uh to The
Speaker 1: Great White, North, Yes canada for for a week or.
Speaker 2: So you're.
Speaker 1: Driving, wow, yeah, baby where you.
Speaker 2: Stopping, Troy?
Speaker 1: Ohio oh beautiful at this time of, year said no one, Ever, Sorry.
Speaker 1: TROY i mean you have to you have to stop
Speaker 1: In ohio when you drive home from. HERE i mean
Speaker 1: because it's like it's like do big, yeah, yeah the
Speaker 1: state is too. Large it's. Weird it's, like how are
Speaker 1: we still In? Ohio we were checking through all the. States,
Speaker 1: well we were flying through states there and then suddenly
Speaker 1: Hit ohio and you're in a Forever.
Speaker 4: Hey you drive for two hours In, ohio two or three,
Speaker 4: hours and then you stop and you're, like, okay well
Speaker 4: just hit the border first thing in the, morning and
Speaker 4: it's no three and a half hour drive away from the.
Speaker 1: Borders so any Crazy, Okay, troy have you stopped In troy?
Speaker 4: BEFORE i have got we have our roots, all we
Speaker 4: got our we got our map, quests, yeah printed printed
Speaker 4: out map quest ready.
Speaker 2: Ago.
Speaker 3: Wow, oh they're worried for. YOU jd on the stream.
Speaker 3: Team they're, saying if you're going To, troy we're not
Speaker 3: going to see you for twenty.
Speaker 1: Years that's, ah this guy Liked Spider man more than The.
Speaker 1: ODYSSEY i just fired up your thumb war.
Speaker 2: Episode, yeah, yeah that's. TRUE i. Did, okay let's come at.
Speaker 1: ME i hadn't at, me all, Right so, yeah we
Speaker 1: don't know if we'll be back at some point, midweek
Speaker 1: BUT i can guarantee you that On, friday it's our
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Speaker 1: the second one there was there was some love for
Speaker 1: so we break it down only like we can ONLY
Speaker 1: jd liked the second one more than the first. One
Speaker 1: BUT i saw other people echoing that.
Speaker 2: Sentiment, really, YES i.
Speaker 1: DID i did BECAUSE i was looking for in terms
Speaker 1: of the graphics and stuff like thumbnails or sorry the
Speaker 1: logos for the movies for all. That AND i saw
Speaker 1: a couple of lists and rankings and people people like
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Speaker 3: Again Dead Man's.
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Speaker 1: yeah that's The Black.
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Speaker 1: That that's On, friday so that'll be in these. FEEDS
Speaker 1: i saw some people wondering on substack and stuff like. That,
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Speaker 2: Me the late Great Don nelson had a great press
Speaker 2: conference where he said he smoked weed post coaching. CAREER
Speaker 2: i said it was With corey mcghetty And Stephen. Jackson
Speaker 2: it was With Jason richardson And stephen jack not. Parts,
Speaker 2: yeah you know he wasn't. There, yeah, yeah, Yeah AND
Speaker 2: i got to give credit to my. Correcter it Was Leo. Gomett,
Speaker 2: NO i don't want to give credit to, him but
Speaker 2: he did it all Of. FRENCH i will say that
Speaker 2: those are my. OLIVES i do want to. Say, UH
Speaker 2: i blame it on bad. Pixelation jason rises and kind
Speaker 2: of looked Like corey mcgetty on my you, know back back. Then,
Speaker 2: yeah this is this is twenty two thousand and eight or,
Speaker 2: something you, know sd SD. Ca maybe it was.
Speaker 1: Later well he last. COACHED i was, shocked, like was
Speaker 1: it nine ten the last?
Speaker 2: Year oh it was WAR i thought it wasn't long.
Speaker 2: Ago but that's you, know because he was there for
Speaker 2: the drafting Of step in two thousand and, nine right, Right,
Speaker 2: yeah SO i guess it was a little.
Speaker 1: Later it doesn't feel like, it, right because he's such
Speaker 1: a larger than life character that he's sort of always
Speaker 1: still been In, yeah.
Speaker 2: You, KNOW Nba lexicon and they go hang.
Speaker 3: Out his name Is Don nelson and they called what
Speaker 3: he invented Nelly, ball and his son Is, Donny so
Speaker 3: He's Donnie. Nelly that's like his third, name, Right
Speaker 1: Rest in peace to the Legend Don, Nelson brace the, day,
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