Speaker 1: Boulet Cap Podcast special guests in here representing the d Man,
Speaker 1: my guys skill a baby. It's your first time on
Speaker 1: the show by yourself, for sure. You were on last
Speaker 1: time with the with Sada and that was a very entertaining,
Speaker 1: colorful conversation. Oh crazy, we had it. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of talk and you
Speaker 1: were just in the corner like, who the fuck are
Speaker 1: these old ass ben? Well, welcome man, it's good to
Speaker 1: see you. You've gotten a lot more icier since the
Speaker 1: last summer. Saw you explain the tent with the Christmas
Speaker 1: tree necklace? What's going on here? And my friends we
Speaker 1: came up with someone we was in high school car
Speaker 1: being camp, so that's where the tent from. So it's
Speaker 1: just like your crew, your label or it's my label,
Speaker 1: and my I got a label called We Eat the
Speaker 1: Most and that's what my friends came up with. I
Speaker 1: ain't come up with that, my friends did. I just
Speaker 1: want to. I love my friends, so shit, I just
Speaker 1: want to. If I can push the movement, I push
Speaker 1: it for real. Right. That's dope. Man. You've had a
Speaker 1: pretty active year in terms of just like tons of
Speaker 1: music being dropped. I know, like everyone and their mom's
Speaker 1: trying to sign you. Are you still independent? No, I'm
Speaker 1: signing to Geffen through in the Scope. How long ago
Speaker 1: did the Geffen thing happen? Like a month ago? Well, congratulations,
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Shout out to Geffen. I know some good
Speaker 1: folks at Geffen. Well actually they just left, so they're
Speaker 1: not there anymore as of like a week ago, but
Speaker 1: shout out to Geffen. What made you go with Geffen?
Speaker 1: It was more family oriented. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people over there, right, and then I know they threw Interscope,
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people that's with Interscope. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like Geffin has had some uh some some success stories
Speaker 1: like uh Dirk shit got uprooted there, got upstreamed through
Speaker 1: their roadway when Alamo was over there. That's dope, man.
Speaker 1: The whole cmg over there Interscope. You know, there's Geffin
Speaker 1: and stuff. So they've even gotten people like fifty cent
Speaker 1: and ice Cube and stuff like that at Interscope still
Speaker 1: so well, no Interscopes. You know, Interscope that's where Eminem's at.
Speaker 1: That's where Kendrick will was and they he's still kind
Speaker 1: of it was like they all, you know, guessing through interscopes.
Speaker 1: I just felt like it was a good move for me.
Speaker 1: How crazy was like the bidding war because everybody in
Speaker 1: Detroit's getting signed right now, so I know that like
Speaker 1: being one of the hottest artists in the city, you
Speaker 1: had to have had maybe like your pick of the
Speaker 1: litter in terms of like where you could have went right.
Speaker 1: How crazy did it get? It was crazy. It got
Speaker 1: so crazy to the point where we got into arguments
Speaker 1: with people, like like people I ain't even know, like
Speaker 1: labels and stuff like that. Like I had labels arguing
Speaker 1: like they they be it like the beer Wars crazy.
Speaker 1: It started at a number, then it went up, then
Speaker 1: they went up like it's like an auction for real.
Speaker 1: I ain't never been a part of it. So I
Speaker 1: just sat back, but like my team, like they was
Speaker 1: in arguments and stuff like that. It's crazy. I know
Speaker 1: you're a big sports fan. Did it kind of feel
Speaker 1: like the closest thing to like being a free agent
Speaker 1: and being like recruited, Like you know, when it was
Speaker 1: really like draft, like not even free agent. It was
Speaker 1: like me being in the draft. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna go right, Like you know, it's like
Speaker 1: because sometimes you know how like it really was like
Speaker 1: the college thing, like because at a point I committed
Speaker 1: to something and then I'm like, do I really like
Speaker 1: do I want to go there? Or do it? Like?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? But I don't know these people at
Speaker 1: this point, So I committed to these people, but I ain't.
Speaker 1: It's not contractual yet, so it's like my loyalty in
Speaker 1: me be like I committed to something because that's how
Speaker 1: it's raised. Like if I commit to something, I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to do that. But business wise, if it don't make sense,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do it. So it's like, so did you
Speaker 1: commit to somebody and then end up going to somewhere else?
Speaker 1: I end up I ended up committing to somebody, then
Speaker 1: I end up they was playing like they was. They
Speaker 1: was like the contracts weren't ready and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: Like I don't think there was planning it just you
Speaker 1: know how the business stuff, the lawyer work, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know about this at this point, Like I got
Speaker 1: lawyers and stuff I never had, like entertainment lawyers and stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's like contracts wasn't ready. Then somebody else came
Speaker 1: and offered more and pull it up on me and
Speaker 1: made me feel like you know how people be, like
Speaker 1: they'll pull up on you and make you want to
Speaker 1: change your mind even though you was it Geff. Geff
Speaker 1: had already pulled up on me. It was really Uh
Speaker 1: Jeff from Uh he was over at where he was at.
Speaker 1: He's at Columbia now, but he was somewhere else. So
Speaker 1: Jeff coming to Detroit, Atlanta, Detroit, they come to see you.
Speaker 1: I went to go see people. It was just like
Speaker 1: it was crazy, for real, for real at a point
Speaker 1: in time, it was crazy to a point where I
Speaker 1: just seen the label. Then I'd be like, damn, I
Speaker 1: want to go there. Then another label like United Asters
Speaker 1: or something a d M or Atlantic or something like that,
Speaker 1: and It's just it was crazy. So obviously shout out
Speaker 1: to Sadas somebody who helped you know, you come up
Speaker 1: in the game. Would Was there any other artists like,
Speaker 1: because there's some artists with big labels, right, you mentioned CMG,
Speaker 1: there's MMG, there's I mean, go on and on. Did
Speaker 1: any other artists like try to come in and like
Speaker 1: become a part of your situation. No, because I'm not
Speaker 1: really I'm a people person, but I don't really let
Speaker 1: I don't deal with I deal with with people, but
Speaker 1: I don't really I'm stand office right, So like I
Speaker 1: like hanger with like the managers and CEOs, I don't
Speaker 1: really like hanger with artists because I feel like I
Speaker 1: can do the same thing as you for real. So
Speaker 1: and it's like there's a few of those artists though
Speaker 1: that are like you know, like if I be around them, yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be like that, but it's like I already
Speaker 1: got my own money. I don't really need your money,
Speaker 1: and then it to be like everything on the internet
Speaker 1: or everybody. I stay away from artists because I've been
Speaker 1: disappointed before, like not by like nobody that you see
Speaker 1: me with. I've been disappointed with like meeting people and
Speaker 1: they not like the same as I thought there was
Speaker 1: gonna be like growing up, if I listen to your music,
Speaker 1: I damn or don't want to be around you because
Speaker 1: if I think like you not like like I don't
Speaker 1: it don't be in side. It'd be like more of them,
Speaker 1: like yeah, it'd be like you grew up being a
Speaker 1: fan of somebody you meet them and they're not a
Speaker 1: good person. Yeah, Like if you're not a good person
Speaker 1: when I meet you or you like an asshole and
Speaker 1: treating people, and it'd be like that'd be like bothering me.
Speaker 1: So I try to stay away from people. The artists.
Speaker 1: Who's somebody that you have met that you were a
Speaker 1: fan of that did not disappoint you. Chris Brown, Chris Brown,
Speaker 1: g Herbo, they were like real genuine was the best
Speaker 1: they like, was real genuine, like Chris Brown, Like you
Speaker 1: think Chris Brown to forget your name. The next time
Speaker 1: you see you, he still know You're like it before
Speaker 1: anybody knew. I was trying to do music, Like I
Speaker 1: met Chris Brown. I was with Sider right like and
Speaker 1: Chris Brown to hop on it like I fuck with ug.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. Did you go with Sada when
Speaker 1: he met Jelly Roll in Detroit? Jelly Rose, my boy
Speaker 1: does like country and it was the most random shit ever.
Speaker 1: I like opened my story and I see Sada baby
Speaker 1: like backstage with Jelly Roll. I'm like, this is fucking
Speaker 1: this is great. It's like the best of two different
Speaker 1: worlds coming together. I didn't know if you were with
Speaker 1: him or not, but so obviously I want to get
Speaker 1: your take because, uh, there are a few cities in
Speaker 1: hip hop right now that I feel like are very
Speaker 1: instrumental to the culture. Detroitch always had a presence in
Speaker 1: hip hop, but it's always been kind of like it's
Speaker 1: like Eminem or Big Sean or you know, even guys
Speaker 1: like back in the day like slum Village, but like
Speaker 1: the street side was always kind of like more underground,
Speaker 1: which is crazy, you know what I'm saying. But now
Speaker 1: of days, man, you guys are kind of at the
Speaker 1: forefront of a lot of influence and a lot of culture,
Speaker 1: and every label is swooping everybody up from the city
Speaker 1: at like a pace that I haven't seen. And you know,
Speaker 1: obviously guys like side of Baby, guys like T. Grizzly,
Speaker 1: all these guys kind of kicked the doors down for
Speaker 1: the generation that's popping right now. What do you think
Speaker 1: it is about Detroit where like everyone's finally kind of
Speaker 1: paying attention and giving like the like the respect that
Speaker 1: y'all deserve In terms of the industry, I think after T.
Speaker 1: Grizzly did it, it put a lot of people in
Speaker 1: rooms that we couldn't get in, like, and then people
Speaker 1: started just networking with other people. It's like on the
Speaker 1: Detroit get a lot of recognition because like everybody be
Speaker 1: in the streets, So like after T Grizzy got out
Speaker 1: there like other people was in rooms with other artists
Speaker 1: that's also in the streets. I feel like, so they
Speaker 1: got to doing music and hanging out with each other
Speaker 1: and doing stuff like that. So I just felt like
Speaker 1: that was big that after Sada did it, it just
Speaker 1: kicked some more doors down then like Doug did it. Doug.
Speaker 1: I actually think like I think T was the first
Speaker 1: to do it. Sad Of did it the uh, sad
Speaker 1: Of did it like on the talent wise, sad Of
Speaker 1: did it the best. T was the first, and I
Speaker 1: think Doug just went the furthest like far as like
Speaker 1: networking and having platinum records and stuff like that. Now
Speaker 1: his baby face, Babyface Ray, he doing his thing. It's
Speaker 1: been dope to see his career, baby money Tay, Like
Speaker 1: everybody networking with people and that's I love to see
Speaker 1: that part of doing for a long time, especially in
Speaker 1: that like very my favorite type of hip hop. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: are you? I mean, you're fine, You're here. I good,
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean that has to be a traumatic
Speaker 1: thing to get through. It wasn't really like traumatic to
Speaker 1: me though, Like did you? I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: you to get into the specifics of the situation, but like,
Speaker 1: is that something that happens and do you become like
Speaker 1: a different person after that? Or do you move differently
Speaker 1: after something like that happens? It changed me, but it ain't.
Speaker 1: It ain't it changed me for the better. Like, I
Speaker 1: know what I'll be doing when I get into stuff,
Speaker 1: so I know what be going on. Like I know
Speaker 1: the possibility is shit that that comes beyond my actions
Speaker 1: and even my reaction. So but I wouldn't say, like
Speaker 1: I got shot, I damn. It wouldn't do nothing different,
Speaker 1: So it ain't change me on the situation side. It
Speaker 1: just changed me to move better for real. Well, I
Speaker 1: feel like too, Like at a lot of the younger
Speaker 1: artists that I speak with, man, you're like one of
Speaker 1: the more like you're a very smart kid. Man. Like
Speaker 1: when I interviewed you with Side of Baby, I felt
Speaker 1: like you were the adult in the interview and me
Speaker 1: inside of Baby were like the uh, the old creepy
Speaker 1: uncles And you're like, I don't do drugs, y'all are
Speaker 1: talking about gas station dick pills. What the fuck are
Speaker 1: y'all old dudes on? But like in terms of just
Speaker 1: like your attitude, I was like, yo, like you really
Speaker 1: got the type of attitude that will like result in
Speaker 1: longevity as long as you could try to stay out
Speaker 1: the way of that other bullshit, you know what saying.
Speaker 1: I really I don't normally get into stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It just sometimes you just at the wrong place at
Speaker 1: the wrong time. Of course, you feel me some you
Speaker 1: just inevitable. It's some stuff is like unavoidable, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like you can't you can't be like cooped up in
Speaker 1: the fucking house all day for sure, like stuff, just
Speaker 1: like you have lightning strikes places. Yeah, like that's why,
Speaker 1: like you can't you got like you gotta be strong
Speaker 1: minded about stuff, like you gotta know, like except what
Speaker 1: comes with what you're doing? Right? Was that was just
Speaker 1: the feeling like like like was it the craziest pain
Speaker 1: you've ever been through in just physical? I ain't. I
Speaker 1: ain't feel and I got shot. I ain't even fool
Speaker 1: I ain't yell nothing. I walked off. You didn't feel it,
Speaker 1: just adrenalines pumping. I'm sure. I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: walked off and shit, that just happened, Like I ain't.
Speaker 1: It ain't. The shortness after getting shot is really what hurt,
Speaker 1: like like the after effects of like recovering and like
Speaker 1: the big ass bruise I had on my ass because
Speaker 1: it went through my stomach came out my ass. Don't
Speaker 1: know even know that. So the bullet came out of
Speaker 1: your but cheek? The god did you have to sit
Speaker 1: on a donut? No? Not for real? I broke my tailbone.
Speaker 1: Not the same thing when I was like, it's way
Speaker 1: straight through. I ain't hitting no bones or hitting us
Speaker 1: so straight. That had to be a rough go for
Speaker 1: like taking a ship for a few months, huh, Like
Speaker 1: you put all the fucking weight on the like the
Speaker 1: cheek that didn't get shot. I mean, I mean it
Speaker 1: couldn't have been the most comfortable thing was. It wasn't comfortable.
Speaker 1: It was a big ass bruise on my ship. Like
Speaker 1: you ever feel like you played sports and like Phil
Speaker 1: on Hardwood, it felt like that, Like but I was
Speaker 1: laughing and ship my mama was mad because I got
Speaker 1: out the hospital the same night. It was laughing and
Speaker 1: sh I played I played too much for real. You
Speaker 1: got a lot of talent me and you got a
Speaker 1: lot of You got a bright future ahead of you. Bro.
Speaker 1: You gotta just, you know, try to avoid all that,
Speaker 1: all those situations. I'm a real manner young man, though,
Speaker 1: I want to really know that. I agree, I'm a
Speaker 1: real manner. I don't look for trouble. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to get in trouble, none of it. I'm a good person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you have braces. You're like a child for sure.
Speaker 1: So now that you're with Geffen, because you're kind of
Speaker 1: like you're the type of artists that so far, I
Speaker 1: feel like kind of it's a perfect like you're you
Speaker 1: being independent matches your output because you have a high
Speaker 1: output of music. How's the adjustment going to be being
Speaker 1: with a major label. Are you still going to be
Speaker 1: able to drop as frequently as you want? Or is
Speaker 1: it to be like like really cool with like the
Speaker 1: president of my label and stuff like that. So I'm
Speaker 1: cool with everybody in my label. I got a good relationship.
Speaker 1: So if they say something don't make sense, I know
Speaker 1: it probably don't make sense because they've been there for
Speaker 1: so I don't really you know, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like mind just holding off and doing things the right way.
Speaker 1: That's what I got with the label. It wasn't really
Speaker 1: about no money. It's really about being in the rooms
Speaker 1: and taking my stuff to the next level. So if
Speaker 1: that's what I got to do to take myself to
Speaker 1: the next level, that's what I just gotta do. R
Speaker 1: Have you put any music out since signing is the
Speaker 1: tweaking record through them? Or that somebody leaked my song
Speaker 1: that's not even your songs. You didn't put that out though, No,
Speaker 1: So someone just uploaded that on kids. That's a snippet.
Speaker 1: That's really a snippet. Like I be uploading my music
Speaker 1: sometimes like screen recording it and somebody screen recording my
Speaker 1: page and uploaded it under your profile. Yeah, like they
Speaker 1: got that off my story? What the fuck? They got
Speaker 1: that off my story or screen recorded it and uploaded.
Speaker 1: I just told my label, like, you got to take
Speaker 1: that down. Somebody went out of the way made of
Speaker 1: art for it and everything. For sure, that shit's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's like the new bootleg shit. I imagine, like signing
Speaker 1: up for a distro kid account and uploading someone else's ship.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't really, I wasn't never gonna put that out
Speaker 1: for real. That's just something I went to the studio
Speaker 1: and had some on my chest and I want to
Speaker 1: rap about it, but that's not I wouldn't put that out. Damn,
Speaker 1: you're getting bootlegged on Spotify enough for sure, that's wild.
Speaker 1: They gotta take that down though, Yeah, damn, what's so okay?
Speaker 1: So your your major label debut or slash project? How
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were sitting on probably hundreds of songs.
Speaker 1: Do you know what that's looking like? Yet? My EP
Speaker 1: come out Thursday night, Friday morning, so dp's already put together.
Speaker 1: What's it called We Eat the Most? Which is obviously
Speaker 1: you know on your chain there pushing the brand. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: how many songs? What is eight one eight records? Who's
Speaker 1: on the album or EP? Whatever? We're calling me? Just you?
Speaker 1: No features. I'm saving my features for another time. I
Speaker 1: really they want if the team like wanted me to
Speaker 1: put something out, so I let them pick the songs
Speaker 1: and put something out so they can. They said they
Speaker 1: wanted to feed the fans. So you know, video shot,
Speaker 1: video shot nice, three or four of them shot. What's
Speaker 1: the best cony? Uh? In Detroit? It's either Zorbers or
Speaker 1: El George's. Zorbis on the east side six miles in
Speaker 1: Gungsty and Ill Georgia's on the west side on like
Speaker 1: green Field is six mile. What makes like a good
Speaker 1: coney place? Is it? Like does the hot dog have
Speaker 1: to be fired? Or there's so much stuff on the menu?
Speaker 1: Only get coney dogs. Sometimes it's really like anywhere in
Speaker 1: Detroit is to cook because people be cooking the same
Speaker 1: thing and it tastes different, like you feel me like
Speaker 1: it's just really to cook. Because sometimes I go to
Speaker 1: coney and get some pancakes or French toasts and they
Speaker 1: could be the middle of the night, but sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: go get corn beef and some chili cheese fries or
Speaker 1: wingding they're a chili cheese fries. It's always the cook.
Speaker 1: Somebody might burn your wingdings or just like wing dings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's that like small chickens. It's small chicken wings like
Speaker 1: a baby chicken, like baby chicken wings like the deans.
Speaker 1: That's wild, like they cut the little flat part off
Speaker 1: the wings like the and it's just the dean. The
Speaker 1: wing gangs. I heard of that, the wing beings. I
Speaker 1: just know that. What was the name of that burger
Speaker 1: place you brought us burgers from? Or the fucking patties
Speaker 1: with this fat one? It was you got them big babies.
Speaker 1: It was the juiciest, most gigantic fucking hamburger for sure
Speaker 1: food exchange. They come the big baby, come with corn
Speaker 1: beef in a burger. Oh my god. It was just
Speaker 1: a lot going on. It was gas. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. Great. I like the food out there, No,
Speaker 1: I really only like food at home. For I was
Speaker 1: eating at the uh. You know where they got terrible
Speaker 1: food is at the MGM Detroit. All the food court choices,
Speaker 1: they are terrible. That's the you know, though I'm aware
Speaker 1: it was like, but I was just like, there's nothing
Speaker 1: that we got to go to the neighborhoods like I
Speaker 1: was there, or the strict cliffs, like went to the
Speaker 1: strip club too. I did not go to Trust. Is
Speaker 1: that it truth? Truth? Didn't go there. I heard that
Speaker 1: was good. Where do you go to Pantheon? No, we
Speaker 1: went to a Spades with Massi and then uh, street
Speaker 1: lord one sent it to some white club. Uh that
Speaker 1: was terrible. Coliseum maybe, Oh my god, it was like
Speaker 1: a bunch of Juggalo women were dancing. You wanted to
Speaker 1: see the black girls. I just I don't fuck with
Speaker 1: white women, bro. But you know what it was, was
Speaker 1: like it was like our first night in town, and
Speaker 1: like he couldn't come out with us Heather see, and
Speaker 1: so I felt like he wanted to send us somewhere
Speaker 1: he thought we'd be safe. So he sent us there
Speaker 1: and then we walked in and I was like, you
Speaker 1: want to see the big booty black girls with the BBA.
Speaker 1: Spades was great. I'm hit great talent, I ain't got
Speaker 1: It was a little Blade's birthday party in there, and
Speaker 1: Mazzie was performing, Pedrol Giovanni was there. It was a
Speaker 1: good time. I love Detroit. Man, it was very chill.
Speaker 1: I liked it. It was fucking and it ain't like
Speaker 1: everybody make it seem like it's really fun. Fucking loved it.
Speaker 1: I was like I tell everybody, I'm like, yo, Detroit's fire.
Speaker 1: Everybody was super nice. I also had zero clue that
Speaker 1: you guys are like you could throw a rock and
Speaker 1: hit Canada. Do you go to Canada? Sometimes? Just why not?
Speaker 1: It's like you could just drive over there just lunching.
Speaker 1: I'm back. I just got my passport and I just
Speaker 1: stopped being a feeling. But I ain't stopped being I
Speaker 1: just got off a feelingy probation. So I like how
Speaker 1: you said that I just stopped being a feeling. By
Speaker 1: the way, congratulations, I'm glad you made that life choice.
Speaker 1: But do you have because it's hard to get into
Speaker 1: Canada if you have a felony? Right, yeah, but could
Speaker 1: you get are you fine out? I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: cool with Drake. I mean, I'm sure that'll happen. Right,
Speaker 1: He hasn't latched on to a Detroit artist yet. Sure
Speaker 1: he'll latch onto somebody cousin. He had Detroit artists. He
Speaker 1: just took a picture with Drake. Shit, that's a little
Speaker 1: baby took the picture. I'm like, that's fire. Are you
Speaker 1: surprised that Drake hasn't really dug in with like a
Speaker 1: Detroit artist yet. It feels like the type of thing
Speaker 1: he would do. You know, he brought cash doll out
Speaker 1: one time. I mean how long ago was that, like
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen or eighteen nineteen maybe probably something like that.
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Speaker 1: don't know what that means. I don't give a fuck. Bro,
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Speaker 1: you feeling about the Pistons? Man? A lot of great
Speaker 1: young pieces cake cutting hands out for the year. It
Speaker 1: looks like to hurt my heart. Yeah. Man, he's bawling too.
Speaker 1: But you guys got some fuck You guys had a
Speaker 1: great draft. Yeah, but that's our ling drafting. We ain't
Speaker 1: got number one draftic go oh, that's like, I mean
Speaker 1: how you feel though, I mean the future. I like
Speaker 1: the Pistons, I ain't go like I think we just
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Speaker 1: my man is Isaiah Stewart. That's my own boy. Like
Speaker 1: he really beat somebody up. Yeah, but I think we
Speaker 1: need somebody that like that, Like people fear like Draymond
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Speaker 1: But you're saying people don't fear him much. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that people don't fear him. It's just that like
Speaker 1: they know, like here, really he ain't nothing to play with.
Speaker 1: I don't think they feel like they've haslam just like
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Speaker 1: like he only gonna get on that if you like
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Speaker 1: I need somebody like Draymond Green that's just doing whole
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Speaker 1: But I need that on the pistons like the bad boy.
Speaker 1: He needs to be still man Ivy and k cutting
Speaker 1: him together. That could be the mean basic what's the
Speaker 1: name of the big man y'all drafted the other guy
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Speaker 1: talking about? From Iowa? This year? This year? This is
Speaker 1: Jane and Ivy and Dennis Jalen Duran. You talking about
Speaker 1: doing Duran's nice. Nice. I wish you guys would have
Speaker 1: traded somebody good for talking about already eating off for
Speaker 1: my sons. I thought aidon was going to the Pistons.
Speaker 1: I think I like DeAndre Aiden, He's just not tough
Speaker 1: enough for me, Like I just want him to dunk, no,
Speaker 1: no officsted and I'm a Suns fan. Motherfucker dunked the ball,
Speaker 1: no offisted DeAndre a. Somebody's no way that Shaq leting
Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley put push him down, like feel me, I
Speaker 1: don't just like, I don't like that. I don't like that,
Speaker 1: like you were supposed to big show, choke slam for
Speaker 1: that big show. That's the type of basketball I like, though.
Speaker 1: I like rough, rugged basketball, like jail boy. Do you
Speaker 1: remember when Shaq and you don't remember, but there was
Speaker 1: a fight when you were probably in I not you
Speaker 1: might not have existed yet. Shaquille O'Neil and Charles Barkley
Speaker 1: got into it when Shaq was or when Barkley was
Speaker 1: on the Rockets, and Charles Barkley body slams Shaquille and Neil.
Speaker 1: It's on YouTube. Yeah, I watched that on the highlights
Speaker 1: before and then I heard Shaq talking to Tarle I
Speaker 1: was Barkley. I think that's that's why Charles check always
Speaker 1: on Charles Barkley snug. When I was a kid, because
Speaker 1: I was I lived in Phoenix. I'm from Phoenix. Uh.
Speaker 1: He fucking was downtown and he got into a fight
Speaker 1: with a guy and he threw him through the glass
Speaker 1: window at a bar. That's a big man, though, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's the round mounded. He's like six
Speaker 1: four six five damn Charles Barkley. Remind me of Muhammad
Speaker 1: Ali or something like. They used to call him the
Speaker 1: round mound of rebound because he's a round guy, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? The pistons are they listening to
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Speaker 1: How are we getting him back in the league? The
Speaker 1: last time we can't? You guys came up here? He
Speaker 1: actually he about to. I think somebody told me that
Speaker 1: he about to get signed again. Like, I'll be with
Speaker 1: him a lot. That's my brother, but I support anything
Speaker 1: you do. And he's like, he actually I know that
Speaker 1: your guys actual friend. Yeah, he do you guys ever
Speaker 1: pull him to the side and say, hey, look like
Speaker 1: I talked to you. Got a lot of money in
Speaker 1: the air that you're I don't want to be a
Speaker 1: rapper that bad. I talked to Bro, but I don't
Speaker 1: try to drill something into him that I that he
Speaker 1: already know. That's just like if I fuck up, I
Speaker 1: already know he knows. You know he fucked up. So
Speaker 1: when I see him, like, that's what anybody though. If
Speaker 1: I see you doing something now, I feel like it's wrong.
Speaker 1: I might. I'm probably gonna tell you so. I always
Speaker 1: had conversations with Bro. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I know I'm young. He young people make mistakes. Is
Speaker 1: he still trying to rap? To pursue the rap thing?
Speaker 1: We actually be in the studio together, Bro, I know
Speaker 1: I'm saying like I'm saying, is that still like a
Speaker 1: priority for him? Like I was in the studio with
Speaker 1: him like two days ago. Well, he's a great rapper.
Speaker 1: I was at the studio, Bro, we just made it
Speaker 1: song like two days ago. But like I think, I
Speaker 1: just hope the Piston. I feel like if the Piston
Speaker 1: sign him, it's a problem. I dare't think I know
Speaker 1: where you're going, but I can think I know where
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Speaker 1: let's make ESPN right now. ESPN. Yeah, let's be on.
Speaker 1: Let's be on. Uh, let's be on part of the
Speaker 1: interruption tomorrow. You want me to tell you where you're going?
Speaker 1: Where's he going? The NBA? I mean, I know that,
Speaker 1: But what is it? The Lakers? Is it? Is it
Speaker 1: the I mean, it's not going to be the Hornets.
Speaker 1: It's a team in the NBA? For real? Which conference
Speaker 1: the NBA? Give me a conference that's all either the
Speaker 1: West or the East either one? Yeah, two? So it's
Speaker 1: the Lakers. It's not the South for the North conferences,
Speaker 1: those don't exist. I know you're going to the NBA
Speaker 1: for sure. But actually, brother's about to do some community
Speaker 1: work that he already been doing, but he's about to
Speaker 1: do some extra community work, and y'all should tap in
Speaker 1: with that's not community service. Community service like community service
Speaker 1: like he's about to continue doing what he's been doing,
Speaker 1: giving back to mothers in need and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: That's what people should tap in out with what he's doing,
Speaker 1: but not like he was forced to do community service.
Speaker 1: He's already been doing it. All right, Well, Uh, your
Speaker 1: EP comes out by the time people watch this, we'll
Speaker 1: probably drop this on Monday. So your ship drops next Thursday,
Speaker 1: right this Thursday. Oh, this Thursday. Oh, so by the
Speaker 1: time it days out, what's today, It's Tuesday. So we'll
Speaker 1: probably drop this tomorrow or Thursday. We'll drop it Thursday.
Speaker 1: So Thursday night, that's hard. Tonight the ship's dropping flat out.
Speaker 1: Go run that EP up and then the album is
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Speaker 1: Are you like expanding your entrepreneurial footprint into anything. I'm
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Speaker 1: I'll be contemplating it. I'm thinking about signing somebody, uh,
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Speaker 1: what's your favorite book on? Night John? What's it called?
Speaker 1: Night John? What's that about? It's about a slave that
Speaker 1: taught some other slaves how to read. Oh, let's go.
Speaker 1: Then they ran away, got away, but he had to
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Speaker 1: type of I think more people should read more, man.
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Speaker 1: like if it's about I fucking read. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many Michael Jordan books in my life. But that's
Speaker 1: your favorite player as a child. Yes, but as a
Speaker 1: grown man, I could make college that Lebron James is
Speaker 1: the coach. No I thought it was Kobe though, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you and I we talked about this last time because
Speaker 1: you came up here, because you've clearly said it was Kobe.
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Speaker 1: I would never he switched because we are on cameras.
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Speaker 1: That's what we just talk about. That piano. I love
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Speaker 1: Ain't even Tim duncan cut the camera. Kobe's like seventh
Speaker 1: all time number seven, seven or eight. You talked about it, man,
Speaker 1: It's like twelve time all defense. Eighty one points in game.
Speaker 1: Broker's arms shot with the ball with the left hand,
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Speaker 1: Can you five remind me what happened? Five? Remind me
Speaker 1: what happened when Shaquille O'Neal left the Lakers. They won
Speaker 1: too more Trappers. No, no no, no, no, wait wait a minute,
Speaker 1: let me finish, Let me finish. So Shaq left the
Speaker 1: Lakers right now, this is before pau Gasol joined the Lakers.
Speaker 1: I'm asking this though. There was a few years there
Speaker 1: where the Lakers were like the eight seed and getting
Speaker 1: bounced in the first round, right because Kobe was just
Speaker 1: it was just Kobe. This is during the eighty one
Speaker 1: point era. There was no Palgasol yet, all right, So
Speaker 1: that happens couldn't get out of the first round by himself,
Speaker 1: unlike a guy like Lebron James who got to the
Speaker 1: finals by himself and didn't win, but he got to
Speaker 1: the finals. At least he got out the first round. Now, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you get Palgasol, you have Andrew Bidham, you have lamar Otim,
Speaker 1: you got a team, you get your other rings. Cool, Well,
Speaker 1: what happens when things kind of hit a wall. He
Speaker 1: takes that last contract. Kobe Bryant took that last contract
Speaker 1: and literally just sank the Lakers for like five years.
Speaker 1: You talk about personal matters, No, no no, no, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Kobe Bryant. I'm talking about the Lebron era. When
Speaker 1: Lebron and no, I'm not taking nothing from Lebron because
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, what happened. Let's talk about Len. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about Lebron's Kobe doing in your Lebron around the
Speaker 1: conference was nothing. He played against Dwaye Howard and like
Speaker 1: the Eastern Covered Finals playing against Dwaite Howard. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about how Kobe got Sasha, William Chi ter Ring, Luke
Speaker 1: what and Jordan Farmer? I think. Oh, and we can
Speaker 1: also talk about lamar Odom Andrew bid them and Browne. Yo, listen,
Speaker 1: you can't bring up all these random fucking dudes when
Speaker 1: Shaq was also on the team. They wasn't on the
Speaker 1: team with Shack Farmer, wasn't on the Shock teams. Probably Farmer,
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't remember that though. With that
Speaker 1: being said, Pal Gasol's all timer, one of the greatest powerful.
Speaker 1: We did something after they left Kobe except Shack Shock
Speaker 1: got a ring. Who did something except Shack? Jordan Clarkson's
Speaker 1: been the sixth man of the year. You tell about
Speaker 1: the end of kobe career, Oh, so year twenty Kobe
Speaker 1: after he broke everything on his body. Okay, so what's
Speaker 1: Lebron doing in your twenty nineteen eighteen. What does he
Speaker 1: do with it? He won a ring two years ago.
Speaker 1: He's losing a lot. He won a fucking ring two
Speaker 1: years a bubble where nobody but Lebron wanted to play.
Speaker 1: I love Lebron as a person, but as a player,
Speaker 1: I'm a Brian hater. Well, y'all disrespect Kobe everywhere I
Speaker 1: go and this, well, look, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Kobe could. Kobe could never put a shitty team on
Speaker 1: his back and take him to the finals. That happened.
Speaker 1: Zero two? What was the shitty team with Andrew Bine?
Speaker 1: Andrew Biden was in the All Star Game? Was all
Speaker 1: NBA center Pal Gasol? When did they? When did Pearl
Speaker 1: Gasol or Andrew Bidham do anything after they left? Aguson
Speaker 1: was a beast before he was in LA. He was
Speaker 1: a fucking beast on the Grizzlies. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: How old were you when all this was actually happening?
Speaker 1: I was how old I was young? How old I
Speaker 1: was young? How old were you in two thousand and five?
Speaker 1: Two thousand and five, I think I was seven years old? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So what the fuck do you even know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about? Right now? A lot. Get off of YouTube.
Speaker 1: I was playing sports. Knows about everybody because he'd be watchings.
Speaker 1: I was playing sports and the only thing I really
Speaker 1: watched was the Pistons in the Lakers. So I know
Speaker 1: everything about Kobe. You can't really argue with me about
Speaker 1: Kobe and never entered conversations like religion or politics. Kobe.
Speaker 1: I'm going to bat for that man like y'all ain't
Speaker 1: gonna keep disrespecting Kobe Bro. I didn't disrespect him. I
Speaker 1: just said he's like seventh all time. Never what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? How how Kareembar is better? No? Magic
Speaker 1: John's no? What did they do better? They had more
Speaker 1: talent to him? Kareem? Did they have more talent to him?
Speaker 1: Did they dribble better? Shoot better? Did they pass better?
Speaker 1: Did they dunk the ball? National championships in college, NBA,
Speaker 1: Rings League, MVP, the all time greatest, He's the number
Speaker 1: one scorer in NBA histories? Are you yeah? The most
Speaker 1: indefensible shot ever? So the sky hook is indefendable. No
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Speaker 1: nobody could defend Kareem Blue Jabbar. Who's blocking the sky hook?
Speaker 1: I'm saying, are you going to the park to watch
Speaker 1: your Kareem abdul Jabar play over Kobe. What is that? Okay,
Speaker 1: if that's the fucking case. If that's the fucking case,
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Speaker 1: time because this and one tapes were amazing. No, but
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Speaker 1: doing it was more exciting to see Kobe go win
Speaker 1: Meal that bitch on a three sixty. What does that mean?
Speaker 1: That does what we're talking about? No, if that's the case,
Speaker 1: the exciting seeing the sky hook. I want to see
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Speaker 1: want to see I want to see Steph Curry shoot
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Speaker 1: because I like to watch him, though, make him better
Speaker 1: than make you the best. I think lucas the best
Speaker 1: player in the league. Okay, thank you. And he's not
Speaker 1: very exciting to watch because he's just like he looks
Speaker 1: like me. He's white guy. You no, you know it's exciting.
Speaker 1: You know why because he got real skill of course,
Speaker 1: so real skill matters. That's a skill to dunk the
Speaker 1: basketball and shoot the basketball, doing dribble the basketball. That's
Speaker 1: a skill. So you're saying Luca's the best, like skill wise,
Speaker 1: just no, the best player right now if you're okay,
Speaker 1: you're the fucking hicking Luca for sure. So you're the
Speaker 1: GM of the Pistons. You have the number one pick
Speaker 1: at any player fantasy draft in Luca Lucas your number
Speaker 1: one pick. Yes, okay, well at least we agree. You know, Okay, Luca,
Speaker 1: you gonna get forty at Whell. He gonna get forty
Speaker 1: at Whill. He's shooting at bitch here. It's slow, but
Speaker 1: he going to get this right, He's going to like
Speaker 1: I'm getting Luca. I had an argument that's sorry about this.
Speaker 1: I think Luca getting He said he's a real basketball
Speaker 1: He feels like Dirk and Whiskey is better than Luca,
Speaker 1: and I don't, Well, Dirk's fifty. I mean like right now, No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about all time. Think Luca got to get
Speaker 1: that ring first. Man, It's not about Ring to me.
Speaker 1: I feel like Jerk was MVP. Dirk beat the Heat
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, for sure, but I feel like Luca
Speaker 1: can do more. Probably right, well, look, man, like talent,
Speaker 1: that's what I just. If you had to compare your
Speaker 1: rapping to an NBA players game, you're the what of
Speaker 1: the rap game. You're the who of the rap game?
Speaker 1: Or you the Luka Donkics of the rap game? Can
Speaker 1: you do anything? You can? Put forty up at will
Speaker 1: on the mic? What are you doing, John Morant? You're
Speaker 1: the John Morana exciting too. It's exciting to hear me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do stuff that you think that nobody should do. Like,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm going to do. Or at least you
Speaker 1: didn't say you were the Robin Lopez of the rap game.
Speaker 1: That would have been. I feel like I just feel
Speaker 1: like I'm John Morant because like I feel like it's
Speaker 1: exciting to hear what I'm gonna say. I might I
Speaker 1: might lay the ball up. I might do a fancy layup.
Speaker 1: I might come dunk you. I might just shoot. I
Speaker 1: might floater it the pants. I feel I could do
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. I ain't saying John Morant. I
Speaker 1: ain't saying John Morant the best player ever. But I
Speaker 1: think he Kobe Michael Jordan type keller. He could be.
Speaker 1: He could be. He can stay healthy. He's got to
Speaker 1: take care of he's got to preserve his body, getting
Speaker 1: into that pain. Sometimes he'd be kind of and then
Speaker 1: it's just hard being a hot flyer for real, It's
Speaker 1: bad knee. Well listen, man, your new EP is out tonight.
Speaker 1: Go out, run it up, no features, straight solo. Appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming through. We're gonna have you rap too, So
Speaker 1: there'll be a separate YouTube video of this guy showing
Speaker 1: us why he's the Jam Moran of the rap game.
Speaker 1: Let's go skal a baby,