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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Strong and get Katy and he arm Strong and Getty.

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Speaker 4: If you look at the cost to produce a vehicle

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Speaker 4: with a twenty five percent tariff, economist estimate that this

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Speaker 4: will cost about thirty five hundred dollars to twelve thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars more per vehicle. And then when we talk about

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Speaker 4: the consumer, a lot of economists are suggesting that it

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Speaker 4: could cost upwards of five thousand to fifteen thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: more per vehicle. But let's take the White House's numbers

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Speaker 4: on this. According to their fact sheet, a forty thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars vehicle made in America would cost five thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: more if that company uses foreign parts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that kicks in in a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: In theory I've been there have been another number of

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Speaker 1: tariff deadlines that didn't end up occurring when somebody backs

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Speaker 1: down or perceived as backing down. But if this car

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Speaker 1: one kicks in.

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Speaker 5: It's well, it'll be something to watch.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I don't think it's realistic. We don't

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Speaker 6: have time to really get into it now. But and

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Speaker 6: Trump is trying to browbeat the US automakers into not

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Speaker 6: raising prices. I just I don't know that it's realistic

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Speaker 6: to onshore that much manufacturing for a giant, complicated industry

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Speaker 6: in the time Trump's going to have because you make

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Speaker 6: these plans for the next decade, these giant one hundred

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Speaker 6: million dollar plants or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So these two things fit together a little bit. A

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Speaker 1: story I came across about your phone and being a

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Speaker 1: distraction and how much it rules all of our lives.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that reminds me.

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Speaker 6: The one of your anniversary of the fabulous Peter Bagosian

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Speaker 6: book The Anxious Generation is today, and he's out with

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Speaker 6: a screen which includes some principles to just adopt in society.

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Speaker 6: It's like drunk driving at one point was pretty accepted

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Speaker 6: now it's not at all. And he has some social

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Speaker 6: principles we all need to adopt, easy to understand that

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Speaker 6: will save the kids. Anyway, that's later on the hour.

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Speaker 6: I hope you can stay too.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear that because that definitely fits in

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Speaker 1: with this and the reason I'm looking at this and

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Speaker 1: tying it in with my whole newfound sleep problems, having

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Speaker 1: the hardest time sleeping I've ever had in my life,

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Speaker 1: just kind of started a couple of weeks ago and

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Speaker 1: trying different things. I did some research on melatonin last night.

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Speaker 1: First of all, when I started in on this, I

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Speaker 1: came across all these statistics. So about halfy out there

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Speaker 1: have trouble sleeping, according to most studies, and so it's

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Speaker 1: lots of people, so apparently many of you can relate

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Speaker 1: to this. But man, there's a lot not known about melatonin.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of conflicting studies on that. Whether it

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Speaker 1: actually does anything is still a bit of an open question.

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Speaker 1: There must be enough belief that it does, because doctors

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Speaker 1: have recommended it to me various times, but doctors recommend

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Speaker 1: things that turn out to be nothing over the years. Also,

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Speaker 1: But uh, melotone, whether it actually does anything, whether or

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Speaker 1: not it's addictive or you know, trains your brain to

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Speaker 1: not produce as much melatonin and gets you into a,

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Speaker 1: you know, an unproductive cycle, that's unknown. Some people believe

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. To me, it seems like it almost

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Speaker 1: certainly would be the case if your brain produces melatonin

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Speaker 1: but you're taking the melotone in your body says, oh,

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Speaker 1: we got enough melatonin, let's not produce it, although there

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Speaker 1: are studies that say no, your brain's going to produce

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Speaker 1: the same amount of no matter what. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know melatonin helps you get to sleep in thorty theory.

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Speaker 1: I know that I have taken melatonin quite a number

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Speaker 1: of times over the last several months. It makes me

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Speaker 1: so so tired. I fall asleep, but then like an

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Speaker 1: hour and a half later I wake up. So last

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Speaker 1: night I was up at twelve thirty looking at my phone.

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Speaker 1: How long does meltone last? With various studies saying it's

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Speaker 1: an hour, some study saying six hours. Don't take it,

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Speaker 1: it will be groggy all day. Some stady's saying twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours. So depends on who you ask. I guess, yeah, the.

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Speaker 6: Conventional wisdom I've always heard is take it then go

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Speaker 1: H There doesn't seem to be any conventional wisdom around melatone,

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Speaker 1: and based in all the studies I was reading last night.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, uh, I just I took another one, So

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Speaker 1: like I took one, fell asleep hard, woke up twelve

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Speaker 1: my alarm, like deep slumber, and it was freaking awesome.

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Speaker 2: But you came in today with no pants on, so I.

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Speaker 1: Didn't even notice how till now I am pants genitals

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Speaker 6: And I didn't want to say anything, but yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: Michael hasn't it? He sure has? But I slept well.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's not a diffen bad for your brain,

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Speaker 1: because that result last night makes me think tonight I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: Double it up again. Oh Elvis, I know Michael Jackson right,

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Speaker 2: for Michael, some.

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Speaker 7: Of the milk, some of the melatonin milk, doctor Conrad,

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Speaker 7: I'm sure it's good for me.

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Speaker 2: Any who.

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Speaker 1: So I'm talking about the whole sleeping thing, and when

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Speaker 1: I bring it up with people, people keep saying the

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Speaker 1: same thing, and I keep ignoring it because I don't

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Speaker 1: want to do it. Are you putting away your phone

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Speaker 1: at least an hour and a half before you go

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Speaker 2: Now I'm looking it up.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it up until the second I go

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Speaker 1: to sleep every night and there's there's all kinds of

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Speaker 1: conflicting research on this.

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Speaker 5: On how I mean.

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Speaker 1: There are studies to say the blue light is absolute

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Speaker 1: worst thing for you. There are studies that say blue

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Speaker 1: light's a myth, it doesn't do anything. It's the it's

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Speaker 1: the being engaged with information that makes you awake, not

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Speaker 1: the light.

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Speaker 2: From your phone. I don't have any idea. I do

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Speaker 1: Me and everybody else used to watch television up to

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Speaker 1: the moment they went to sleep, and it didn't keep

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Speaker 1: stimulating them to the point that was wake, whether I

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Speaker 2: News or a movie or sports or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I do this intentionally, but as

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Speaker 6: you were talking, I was thinking about my pattern, and

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Speaker 6: it is definitely as the evening progresses, because you know,

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Speaker 6: I work some in the evening quote unquote, it progresses

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Speaker 6: from the like intellectual and serious to the purely pleasurable.

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Speaker 6: And the last hour of my day is always music

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Speaker 6: or comedy or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just and then I read, and I read all

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Speaker 5: I just I can't imagine pulling the plug on that.

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Speaker 1: I would be really really hard for me to put

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Speaker 1: I feel like an addic or something just like it

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Speaker 1: kind of scares me to even think about it. But

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Speaker 1: what are you reading like before pad? Is it serious stuff?

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Speaker 1: Weighty stuff for a long Well, that's all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Could be anything, depends on the mood, but that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Almost always stuff that porn, Michael. Almost always

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Speaker 1: stuff I want to use on the show. But it

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Speaker 1: might be lighthearted stuff like this. I was reading a

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Speaker 1: study about sleeping. I enjoy that so but I can

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Speaker 1: use it on the air and then I screen captured

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Speaker 1: it and highlight it and everything like that for I'm

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Speaker 1: Your phone may not be the problem when it comes

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Speaker 1: to distraction. In this article, I was just reading where

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Speaker 1: they're making the argument, and I just don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's the engagement. It's not the it's not the phone itself,

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Speaker 1: it's not the light. It's just that if you're doing

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Speaker 1: anything to super get engaged that's addictive behavior and going

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Speaker 1: to keep you awake, whether it's on.

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Speaker 2: Your computer or your phone or any other I.

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Speaker 1: Just don't buy that because I never had these before,

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Speaker 1: and neither did anybody else. As far as I know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who said, man, I just I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I start reading readers Digest at eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 1: and I think it keeps me up. I need to

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Speaker 1: put the Reader's Digest down, our Sports Illustrated or watching

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I just like I said, I deliberately

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Speaker 2: That last half hour hour of the day.

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Speaker 6: And it's it's good for me because I noticed you

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Speaker 6: think that hows you get to sleep one hundred percent. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and you know your results may vary. But like I

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Speaker 1: It's dark at night where I live, and I have

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Speaker 2: And then here here about Flomax, and then uh, I'm fine.

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Speaker 6: Uh but so and I would glance at it and

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Speaker 6: The talks in Ukraine are breaking down and blah blah blah,

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Speaker 6: and I would have a terrible time getting back to sleep.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's looking at a weather forecast.

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Speaker 1: Totally totally abandon it. Now, I just look very carefully

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what that study is basically saying.

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Speaker 1: It's the information, not the device or light or anything

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, amen.

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Speaker 5: Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Well I do know this.

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Speaker 1: I mean I understand the scientific method enough for this.

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Speaker 1: I got to at least try it to eliminate that

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Speaker 5: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I got to buy a paper book for one thing,

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Speaker 1: I don't own any I'm got to get a paper book.

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Speaker 2: They got stores full of them, that's what.

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Speaker 1: They used to I might have to order it on

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Speaker 1: Amazon and then I get one. Got to come up

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Speaker 1: with some sort of light to be able to see

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Speaker 1: the book. I don't know, but I so many logistical

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Speaker 1: challenges a light. Where do you get those? I like

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Speaker 1: laying there in the pitch dark reading on my phone.

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Speaker 1: I just love that. I'm currently reading the memoir from

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Speaker 1: Salmon Rushdie about when he published this Satanic verses and

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Speaker 1: the fat wah and all that sort of stuff ended

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Speaker 1: up getting his.

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Speaker 2: Eye carved out. And you can't sleep. I wonder why?

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Speaker 2: You know what, folks, I just I give up what

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Speaker 2: you don't think you can read?

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Speaker 1: Seriously, you don't think you can read serious nonfiction before.

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Speaker 2: You go to bed. I don't.

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Speaker 6: I think it'll keep you awake. Wow, that's interesting. I've

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Speaker 6: been doing that my whole life, ramping down, ramping down.

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Speaker 2: So what should I read?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 8: Well, non citizens are generally guaranteed the same free speech

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have the right to free speech. You don't

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Speaker 1: Your theory always in the United States is we got

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Speaker 1: Oh, for a long time people were shamed into silence

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Speaker 1: in much of the Western world.

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Speaker 2: And that needs a name.

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Speaker 6: That period of insane suicidal self sacrifice on the altar

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Speaker 6: of a couple of different things. Anyway, these are the

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Speaker 6: things I think about. Back to Marco Rubio and his

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Speaker 6: various measures. I thought this was so interesting. There's a

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Speaker 6: lawsuit in New.

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Speaker 1: York City from families of Israeli hostages against a lot

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Speaker 1: of these Columbia University student groups and activists.

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Speaker 2: Saying they functioned not as like.

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Speaker 6: Informal kind of sort of partners of Hamas, but they

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Speaker 6: led hamas as quote US based in house public relations firm,

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Speaker 6: the Columbia University Apartheid divest organization that remember that grad

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Speaker 6: student or they're trying to boot out macmood Khalil.

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Speaker 2: He represented that organization.

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Speaker 6: That and the Students for Justice in Palestine and American

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Speaker 6: Muslims for Palestine led to Hamas's propaganda arm in New

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Speaker 6: York City and on the Columbia University campus, and should

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Speaker 6: be held accountable for aiding in a betting Hamas's continued

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Speaker 6: acts of international terrorism. So it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 6: this lawsuit proceed whether the ties were formal or extensive

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Speaker 6: enough to substantiate that.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at.

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Speaker 1: It's breaking news on CNN hearing ends and deportation case

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Speaker 1: of that kid you just mentioned, the Columbia kids. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna get ruling on that

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Speaker 1: today or what.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a grown ass man by the way, no child,

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Speaker 6: but he's twenties, mid twenties, I think. Anyway, this got

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Speaker 6: no coverage and it just shows you the depth of

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Speaker 6: media bias, as if we need to point that out

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Speaker 6: to you anymore.

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Speaker 1: But when you really, really really see the bias is

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Speaker 1: when you've got a great story. It's interesting, it's exciting,

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Speaker 1: has like violence and people shouting, and they ignore it anyway.

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Speaker 1: So if it bleeds, it leads, if there's fire, it

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Speaker 1: goes higher.

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Speaker 6: Unless it kind of makes progressives look bad, then we

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Speaker 6: bury it. The day after the acting President of Columbia

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Speaker 6: announced the the new restrictions on mask wearing protests. Student

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Speaker 6: Workers of Columbia, the university's graduate student union, organized a

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Speaker 6: mask picket protest to protest Columbia's repressive new policies and

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Speaker 6: handed out masks to everybody. And in fact, oh my god,

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Speaker 6: Colombia's Palestine Solidarity Coalition called on students quote to wear

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Speaker 6: a mask on Monday.

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Speaker 2: This happened a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, mask bands and the fascist trustees how are you

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Speaker 1: up with masks?

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 6: The group appeared to poke fun at the new policy,

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Speaker 6: which allows masks for quote, medical reasons. While the campus

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Speaker 6: protest remained relatively tame and highly lamb It calls into

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Speaker 6: question in the school's ability or intention.

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Speaker 2: Really to enforce its new rules.

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Speaker 6: See yeah this for medical reasons, says every gd hamas

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Speaker 6: loving protest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be hard to nail down. Legally speaking,

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Speaker 1: I'll bet it's coming out of COVID. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: it were twenty nineteen, maybe, but I see people regularly

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Speaker 1: wearing COVID.

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Speaker 6: Masks, so this would have been so easy for the

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Speaker 6: entire history of the United States. Excuse me, these are

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Speaker 6: laws that were developed to stop the Ku Klux Klan

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Speaker 6: from organizing and marching and terrorizing people, they're still valid.

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Speaker 6: If you're so afraid of your health that you must

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Speaker 6: wear a mask everywhere, you got to skip the protest.

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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye, Write them a check, write them a letter,

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Speaker 1: write a letter to the editor, tell all your friends

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Speaker 1: about it. Engage in one hundred different sorts of protest,

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Speaker 1: civil disobedience, or persuasion. But you can't come to the

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Speaker 1: protest if you're wearing a mask. In Joe Getty's America, Jack,

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Speaker 1: this would not be difficult to enforce. I guess we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a ruling later today from the judge, probably

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Speaker 1: on that student so and.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about that on Monday.

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Speaker 6: No justice, no peace, no campus police, they said, banging

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Speaker 6: on plastic buckets. Oh, that reminds me old friend of

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Speaker 6: the Armstrong and Getty show. Maybe I won't to identify him,

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Speaker 6: but he was in Chicago and came out of the

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Speaker 6: courtroom where he was working on a case and saw

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Speaker 6: a weak, pathetic Chicago teachers Union protest against like trying

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Speaker 6: to actually educate kids, school choice and that sort of thing,

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Speaker 6: and he looked out, is you know it's maybe twenty people,

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Speaker 6: just a sad, sad thing on.

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Speaker 2: Their Facebook page.

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Speaker 6: Though Classic had the camera in tight and it looked

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Speaker 6: like a throng of.

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Speaker 1: Angry people fighting against the wrong doers.

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Speaker 2: It was just sad.

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Speaker 1: So before we take a break, I want to throw

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Speaker 1: a question out to you. Is anybody trying the cold

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Speaker 1: water plunge to sleep or whatever other benefits you get?

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Speaker 5: Because we mentioned uh, our friend.

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Speaker 1: Steve texted the show that he jumps into the does

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Speaker 1: the cold water Plunge every morning and now sleeps.

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Speaker 2: The best he's ever slept with life.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that plunging into water sound, Michael, beautiful

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Speaker 1: Theater of the nine. I don't think I could do this,

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Speaker 1: but is anybody doing it? I would be interested? Four

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Speaker 1: one five here's our text line four one five two

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Speaker 1: nine five KFTC.

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Speaker 5: If you are trying it.

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Speaker 1: And coming up the cultural norms we must all adopt

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Speaker 1: to save the souls of our children, tune out and

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Speaker 1: lose the souls of your children.

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Speaker 2: It's up to you.

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Speaker 1: Oh you don't care about your child, say wow, okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: then go about your business, get your bagel or whatever

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Speaker 1: else you were gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Stay here.

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Speaker 10: Today, President Trump called for Republicans and Congress to immediately

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Speaker 10: defund NPR and PBS.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when NPR heard, they went nuts.

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Speaker 5: They said, this is an outrage, where with a ton of.

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Speaker 2: Transplanted dangerous came.

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Speaker 10: If PBS stops airing those old doop concerts, a bunch

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Speaker 10: of eighty year olds are gonna storm the Capitol. That's

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Speaker 10: what I'm telling tell it's gonna have.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna have.

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Speaker 1: So we got a gazillion text about what you did

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Speaker 1: to sleep better, or this or that it apparently struck

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Speaker 1: a nerve. Maybe we'll get to some of those. An

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Speaker 1: hour four just came across this headline.

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Speaker 2: New device.

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Speaker 1: Allows visually impaired NBA fans to enjoy the action like

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Speaker 1: never before. So finally the blind can enjoy NBA action.

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Speaker 1: I guess with some device they invented. Maybe I'll get

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Speaker 1: that story later. I can't imagine that would.

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Speaker 6: Be if you don't get our four as some folks don't,

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Speaker 6: or you gotta go somewhere grab it via podcasts subscribed

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Speaker 6: Armstrong and Getty on demand. So Peace just came out

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Speaker 6: and substack written by Jonathan Height and Zach Rausch, who

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Speaker 6: are terrific people talking about but Peter Bogos book The

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Speaker 6: Anxious Generation, that was published a year ago today, and

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Speaker 6: their plan was to promote the book in the spring,

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Speaker 6: then get to work on John's next book, deeply depressing

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Speaker 6: investigation of technology's effect on democracy. That's John Heyde. I'm

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Speaker 6: sorry it wasn't because you know, it was height in

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Speaker 6: this case, and that's coming out at some point. But

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Speaker 6: instead they realized the book catalyzed a movement around the world,

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Speaker 6: the Anxious Generation, about kids and smartphones and social media.

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Speaker 6: And they say, most spectacularly, school states and entire countries

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Speaker 6: implemented phone free school policies in Australia raise the age

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Speaker 6: for opening social media accounts to sixteen, which is beyond

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Speaker 6: their wildest dreams of how much effect the book might have.

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Speaker 6: It's really terrific book. And even read the rest of it.

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Speaker 6: I started it and didn't so, you know, being easily distracted.

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Speaker 6: And then they describe the inevitable, well, the the unavoidable

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Speaker 6: description of what happens when kids are obsessed with smartphone

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Speaker 6: and social media, and how COVID made it even worse

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Speaker 6: because kids were, because of progressive policies, deprived of school

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Speaker 6: and every other normal social activity, even though they would

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Speaker 6: have been perfectly fine and were confined to their screens.

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Speaker 6: And that's left us in a terrible state. And by

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Speaker 6: early twenty twenty four parents were sick of it. I

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Speaker 6: don't think we need to describe that. The terrible effect, suicide, depression, anxiety,

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Speaker 6: to isolation, loneliness, just on and on and on, incost

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Speaker 6: So anyway, here's the main point. They say that we

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Speaker 6: can give you an update on the progress of the

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Speaker 6: movement draw lessons for the future by reviewing what's happened

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Speaker 6: for each of the four norms that they're promoting. These

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Speaker 6: are social norms like hey, don't drink and drive, or no,

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Speaker 6: it's not okay to hit your spouse when you're mad.

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Speaker 6: Social norms Number one, no smartphones before high school or

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Speaker 6: age fourteen period. If you give your kid less than

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Speaker 6: fourteen the smartphone, that's an odd thing to do.

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Speaker 2: It's outside the norm.

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Speaker 1: That's what we've done. Yeah, and look, this is not

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Speaker 1: to guilt anybody. Please don't treat your attacking parent.

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Speaker 6: I had to because my kid is the epileptic and

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Speaker 6: I am an astronaut and you know whatever else.

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Speaker 2: All right, Hey, he's up, man, it's it's fine.

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Speaker 1: He's visually impaired and can't enjoy the NBA right exactly.

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Speaker 1: So the best way to delay the arrival of the

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Speaker 1: phone based childhood wow is that a devastating term is

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Speaker 1: to delay giving your child a smartphone to communicate. My

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Speaker 1: son at he got his at fourteen. I guess he

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Speaker 1: was a last one in his friend group.

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Speaker 2: Wow wow.

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Speaker 6: If you need to communicate, give him a simple phone, watch,

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Speaker 6: flip phone or other basic phone with no internet access. Mom,

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Speaker 6: I'm the only one who doesn't have one. I'm being

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Speaker 6: left out was the plea heard by many parents, and

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Speaker 6: many many many parents gave in that is now changing.

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Speaker 6: What was needed was a clear noise, a bright line,

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Speaker 6: a minimum age target that parents could aim for together.

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Speaker 2: They suggested fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Always careful when you get into parenting advice, obviously, but

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Speaker 1: like I know of several parents who like they won't

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Speaker 1: let their kids do sleepovers because of all of the

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Speaker 1: bad things that could happen, but they have smartphones. I'm

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Speaker 1: more worried to my kid alone with a smartphone that

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Speaker 1: over at his friend's house of what might happen.

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Speaker 6: And they mentioned groups in the UK and the US

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Speaker 6: that are promoting this stuff. Norm Number two, no social

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Speaker 6: media before sixteen. Social media is wildly inappropriate for minors.

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Speaker 1: That's got to be more of a girl thing, like

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Speaker 1: my kids boys. I got two boys that they're just

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Speaker 1: not interested in social media. I wonder if that's way

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Speaker 1: more a girl thing.

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Speaker 2: It is, It absolutely is.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 6: They collect and sell children's data, capture their attention for

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Speaker 6: an average of five hours a day, and routinely expose

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Speaker 6: them to sex, violence, and content that promotes suicide. Although

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Speaker 6: an ideal minimum age would be eighteen, we chose sixteen

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Speaker 6: because it sets an age floor that could realistically.

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Speaker 2: Emerge as a global norm. And it's working.

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Speaker 6: And they give a bunch of different examples of states

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Speaker 6: and even countries that are saying no prior to sixteen.

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Speaker 2: No, it's sick, it's bad for kids.

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Speaker 1: God, smartphones came into my life when I was forty two,

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Speaker 1: and they've warped my brain.

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Speaker 2: Norm Number three phone free schools.

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Speaker 6: Obviously in America, left and right off and disagree on

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Speaker 6: how kids should be educated slash indoctrinated, but there's universal

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Speaker 6: agreement that they should be educated. There's also agreement that

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Speaker 6: kids are texting, playing video games, and watching TikTok videos

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Speaker 6: and class are not being educated. Phones are distraction machines.

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Speaker 6: That's becoming a more and more common norm from Arkansas

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Speaker 6: to California.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: La phone free school, second biggest school district in America.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I hope this becomes the absolute norm, just for the

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Speaker 1: sake of the children. I think it's nuts that they're

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Speaker 1: allowed to have phones at school.

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Speaker 6: And number four or and this is a big one.

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Speaker 6: More independence, more free play, and more responsibility in the

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Speaker 6: real world for children, smartphones are the symptom of a

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Speaker 6: deeper problem, the crisis in childhood itself. Children need vast

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Speaker 6: quantities of free play, independence, and responsibility to guide brain

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Speaker 6: development and social development.

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Speaker 2: Being a kid is about the fun, risk.

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Speaker 6: Challenges, and thrills of exploring the richness of life with

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Speaker 6: friends at your side and no parents in sight. Most

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Speaker 6: people born before the mid eighties cherish memories of this

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Speaker 6: kind of childhood, making them receptive to this fourth norm.

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Speaker 1: I think there are a lot This is gonna be

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Speaker 1: the toughest one. I don't even know if this one's doable.

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Speaker 1: There are lots of kids that don't get an hour

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Speaker 1: of that a week, not an hour where there's no

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Speaker 1: parents hovering over, keeping an eye on it, or organized

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Speaker 1: of some sort.

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Speaker 6: They mentioned that the term anxious generation in the title

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Speaker 6: of the book applies not only to the kids but

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Speaker 6: their parents, who are stuck in a collective active problem

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Speaker 6: action problem. How do I send my ca kids outside

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Speaker 6: when no one else is doing it what they would

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Speaker 6: prefer to be on their device? There, someone might call

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Speaker 6: the police that my ten year old is playing ball

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Speaker 6: with his friends in the park without a parent. We've

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Speaker 6: got to stop that, America. We must stop it for

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Speaker 6: our kids.

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Speaker 8: Armstrong and Getty