1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in another edition of 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: the Late Kik Extra podcast. It's Thursday morning, January sixth, 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: year of Our Lord, twenty twenty two. What a morning 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: it's been so far. Do you know that I have 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: already done lake Caick Live Before I record this, I've 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: already done lake Kick Live. Our morning has been thrown 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: off entirely Nashville in the throes of a snowstorm. Got 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: about half a foot of snow outside. So far, Director Colin, 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: producer Jesse. They are safe and accounted for. But we 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: had to get the show in because there was no 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: way we were going to be able to come in 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: tonight because the temperature is going to be like low teens, 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: single digits. Everything that's falling is going to freeze, so 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: there was no way we were going to be able 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: to get in. We barely got in as we did, 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: but we got the show in, so we're going to 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: air that tonight Late Kick Live. We've got the lakk 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Extra podcast coming at you right now. Though this is 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: a mail bag exclusive podcast. We do it twice a 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: week Tuesday and Thursday morning. You can submit questions at 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: late kick Josh on Twitter. Give me a follow while 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: you're at it at Late Kick Josh Instagram, ditto or 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Josh pat seven zero six at gmail dot com. We 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: are allegedly going to leave here and go to Indianapolis tomorrow. 25 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: I just got great, great news from Jake Row We 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: got an exclusive dinner Rezi. I mean an exclusive one. 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: And you're talking to someone right now that's only had 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: like five or six dinner reservations his entire life. I'm 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: just telling you, I don't think there's an establishment before 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: I grew up that they even take reservations. A lot 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: of drive through windows, but very few reservations. So I'm 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: looking forward to that Indianapolis. Some big time, major league 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 1: steakhouses up there, and we're rolling into two of the best, 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: actually in consecutive nights. And also we do have Late 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Kick Live from Indy somewhere on Sunday night. But then 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: this is now, let's dive into the mailbag. I got 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: great compliments the other day. I thought we did the 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: best mail bag and then Late kicklve combination in one 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: day that we've done in a while. Some of you 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: agreed with that. Thank you so much. I was really 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: proud of the work we did the other day. List 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: see if in some small way we can measure up today. 43 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: It's mid morning here. I just tweeted out, I'm recording 44 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: submit questions. I'm going to answer them as you submit. 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Wanda just happened to be quick on the trigger. Here 46 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: she goes, do you watch all the Bowl games or 47 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: just the ones that interest you? And which Bowl games 48 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: interest you the most? I would say I probably watched 49 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: about eighty percent of the Bowl games. The ones I 50 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: didn't watch were certainly not because of lack of interest. 51 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm interested in all of them. I'm interested anytime they're 52 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: playing and keeping score. There were times where we were traveling, 53 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: there were times where I had work related things. Some 54 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: of them happened during the show, shame on us. But yeah, 55 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: I watch all of them. I have a real fun 56 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: time betting with friends like I have separate bets on 57 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: the side that I don't do. You know, through a 58 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: normal sports book, and I'll have all kinds of prop bets, 59 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: and you can have those squares competitions. I don't participate 60 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: in those, but I know a lot of you love those. 61 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm not against them, I just don't happen to participate 62 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: in them. But I watch all of them, Wanda, So 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: there is nothing off limits for me. The way I 64 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: think of it is this, I think about what it's 65 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: like in June. Think put yourself in the middle of June. 66 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: Right now spring games are over, you still got a 67 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: whole month till Media Day, two or three months until 68 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: camp opens. You haven't seen your team play since January 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: February March April. It's five months. That's almost half a 70 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: year since you've seen football games at that point. What 71 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: would you give to watch the cheese At Bowl? What 72 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: would you give to watch Kentucky versus Iowa? And I 73 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: think that was the Citrus Bowl. Those were good games, 74 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: by the way, those New Year's Day games the out 75 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: back in the Citrus always happened at the same time. 76 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: You had I think Penn State Arkansas, and you had 77 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Kentucky and Iowa. Like those were great. I love those. 78 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: I flew out of Miami at six am, flew to Atlanta, 79 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: drove down to Columbus to hang out for the day 80 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: with my dad and my cousin because we always watch 81 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: games together on New Year's Day if we can. And man, 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: you have both those games going on at the same time, 83 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: and then you've got Notre Dame and Oklahoma State playing 84 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: that New Year's Day lineup. That's awesome. You know you're 85 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: building towards the Rose Bowl, and the Rose Bowls certainly 86 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: delivered this year. Is it usually ten to do so? Wanda? 87 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: I watch it just about every single one of those games. Now, 88 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: this is fun. Listen to this. Joe Johnson just posted this. 89 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: He said, I saw a tweet the other day for 90 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: a review board that players would submit their names to, 91 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: and that board would inform them of their chances to 92 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: get picked up in the portal, similar to the NFL 93 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: draft advisory process. For those of you who don't know 94 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: what the advisory board is. That's if I'm a junior 95 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about going to the draft, I can 96 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: submit my name and a committee of anywhere from scouts 97 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: to gms to various administrators and executives in the league, 98 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: they give you feedback. They let you know roughly where 99 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: you can expect to go in the draft. It's not 100 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: an exact science, but it's a pretty good tool. So 101 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: if I get a third round grade, I would normally 102 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: come back to school. If I get a low first high, 103 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: second round grade, I'm probably coming out. Well, what Joe 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: is asking is He says he saw someone suggest that 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: for the transfer portal. Now, this would be a mess, 106 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know necessarily that it would be plausible, 107 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: but let's just pretend it would be plausible. That would 108 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: be really interesting because what you're doing there, instead of 109 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: trying to find out what round you're going to go in, 110 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: I guess you're trying to find out what level of football, 111 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: or maybe what level within a level of football you 112 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: could be picked up. You know, for instance, if Vanderbilt 113 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: or Alabama picked you up, technically you went Power five 114 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: to the SEC. That's not the same caliber of program, 115 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: all due respect, so I guess you would be reaching out. 116 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: I don't know who you would be gauging though, would 117 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: player personnel directors, would head coaches, would coordinators and assistants? 118 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: Would they be open with that advisory board in saying 119 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: if Joe Schmoe is coming out of Arkansas State, we 120 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: would take him so that then you can relay that 121 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: feedback back to that player. I don't know. I don't 122 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: know how that would work. It's an interesting concept, though, 123 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think in real time what the pluses 124 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: and minuses. I don't know that there would be minuses. 125 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: I just don't know what motivation a lot of those 126 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: programs would have for participating with that advisory board. I 127 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: don't know what the motivation would because to me, if 128 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: I know that Jamir Gibbs is going to transfer out 129 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: of Georgia Tech, forget the advisory board. I'm just calling 130 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: him directly and telling him, hey, you got a spot here, 131 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, or I'm doing it via back channel whatever 132 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: I can and can't do legally, like who's really going 133 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: to pop me at this point? So I don't know 134 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: if it would work, but it's an interesting concept there. 135 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Jacob up next, how long will it take Brian Kelly 136 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: to get LSU back to competing for a spot in 137 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: the playoff? Give me two years. Whatever happens this year 138 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: is whatever happens. I think the year after that they 139 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: will be a competitor, a contender for the playoff. Now 140 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: Jacob's not asking what year they'll make it. Keep in mind, 141 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about this on Late Kick Live tonight. 142 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I promise I am. I know because we already recorded it. 143 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some programs LSU will be 144 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: one of them, and their chances like, on a scale 145 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: of one to ten, of making the national title game 146 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: over the next three years. And I talked about that. 147 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: I talked about A and M two. BAM is always 148 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: going to be there. But think about the SEC West. 149 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: You got A and M, you got LSU, and you 150 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: got Alabama. If we were just talking about those three, 151 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: and we're not, because Arkansas is there, Ole Miss is there, 152 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: Mississippi State was a heart out this year. Auburn. I 153 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: think one of the biggest unknown commodities right now in 154 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: major college football is Auburn. But let's just take those three. 155 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: Take A and M, take LSU, and Bama's main stay. 156 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: Think about that. That's all one division, so it's not 157 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: like it's a one team conference. It's one division. That's tough. 158 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: But I do think that Brian Kelly is going to 159 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: have LSU as a competitor for a playoff spot. They're 160 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: going to be a team. In other words, that when 161 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: you get into November, they're still in the conversation. And 162 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: I think that is not that far down the road. 163 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: I think that's twenty twenty three. If you told me, 164 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: I'll give you a mulligan in twenty two. Twenty three 165 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: is when I need results. I would feel comfortable with 166 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: that Colby up next. If Georgia wins the national title, 167 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: who has to play the game of their life or 168 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: the best game they've ever played outside of Stetson Bennett, Well, 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: it's a mere white. I'd look at James Cook. I 170 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: think those guys need to step up. I was doing 171 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Connor Rogerri's podcast, a Saturday Down South podcast earlier today, 172 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: and we were talking about that, and I said, you know, 173 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: a lot of folks have mentioned the name Stetson Bennett 174 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: right out in front of their National championship preview, and 175 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: everyone thinks that it hinges on the performance of stets 176 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: and Bennett. That's not even the first offensive name that 177 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: comes out of my mouth for Georgia. Just as I 178 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: said when we were wrapping up the SEC Championship game, 179 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: I said, I don't even look at Stetson Bennett. I'm 180 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: looking at the number three point six. I'm looking at 181 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: three point six yards per carry. That's what Georgia had today. 182 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: You don't need to tell me anything else. Had you 183 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: told me that before I walked in this building today, 184 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: George is only going to average three point six yards 185 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: per carry, I'd say they're going to be in trouble, 186 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: and that especially is true with Stetson Bennet at quarterback. 187 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: I've said it repeatedly, got a few more days of 188 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: saying it. It's a different world. It is a totally 189 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: different world when you can throw the ball out of 190 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: luxury rather than necessity. So that, to me, Jacob is 191 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: or not Jacob Colby is what the key is. And 192 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: therefore you asked, well, which players have to play the 193 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: game of their lives. You could circle offensive linemen if 194 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: you wanted to, and I would agree with that, But 195 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: it comes down to those running backs and turning three 196 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: point six yards per carry into something that looks a 197 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: lot more like what they did against Michigan. You get 198 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: up over five point yards per Carrie, just give me 199 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: four and a half yards per carry and I think 200 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: you'd be okay, and you put yourself in a situation 201 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: they're where you can potentially win that game with Stetson Bennett. 202 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Next up, good question here from Vince. He said, what 203 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: do you put more value on for assistant coaches their 204 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: recruiting influence or player development and coaching? Vince, that depends 205 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: on which program I'm running and how deep into my tenure. 206 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: I am so Vince is a Miami fan. If I 207 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: were Mario Christobal right now, I'd prioritize recruiting. If I 208 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: were Dan Lanning, who's at the place Mario Christaball just 209 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: came from, I would do exactly what Dan Lanning's doing. 210 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: I would prioritize recruiting. I am always a believer that 211 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: I've got to have the groceries before I start making 212 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: the meal, and that means sometimes you got to stock 213 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: the cupboard. And if you have to sacrifice a little 214 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: bit in that player development x's and o's department, then 215 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: so be it. Like I said the other day on 216 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: this very podcast, how often do you see a coaching 217 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: staff when a new head coach comes in that's put 218 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: together and it's the exact same five years later, or 219 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: three years later, or in some cases two years later. 220 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: Normally coaches understand what the deal is. They've got to 221 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: get the groceries in, so they've got to go recruit, 222 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: and they bring guys in who can recruit, and then 223 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: they slowly overturn that staff. Once they start getting that 224 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: talent on campus, then they understand, we got to do 225 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: something with it. And if we don't feel that our 226 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: coaching staff is capable of doing both. Okay, we prioritized 227 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: one extreme to start off with. Now let's subtly start 228 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: making the shift. You don't do it all at once, 229 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: but you start making the shift. So got the groceries 230 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: all right, Now, let's go find some folks who know 231 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: how to cook. And that's exactly I think what Dan 232 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: Lanning's going to do. I think that's what Mario Christovaul 233 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: is going to do. And if I were running Peyton 234 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: State University, that's probably what I would do. Next up, 235 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: we have the esteemed Sergeant Fish Slips nine oh one. 236 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: He says, what is the meaning of life during the 237 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: off season? Of course, not a word we're allowed to 238 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: say out loud here, but we can whisper off season. 239 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: And he says, what is the meaning of life during 240 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: those critical months that do not fall between September October 241 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: and November December early January, in other words, casual season? 242 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: What is the meaning of life during casual season? Well, 243 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Sergeant Fish Slips nine oh one, henceforth 244 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: to be referred to as Sarge Serge, I'll tell you 245 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: what it means to me, what it means to me 246 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: is it's a time to regroup. It's a time to 247 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: be a little bit more creative with our shows. But 248 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: it's also a time to get out on the road 249 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: and go meet people. Now I was talking to somewhat 250 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: at a major university yesterday. I've actually talked to a 251 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: few this week who I fully intend on actually getting 252 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: out on the road and face to face speaking with. 253 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this. There's some opportunity coming up for 254 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:03,479 Speaker 1: myself and therefore for the show indirectly to establish better relationships. 255 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: There are so many people inside college football programs and 256 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: athletic departments who listen to the pod. I hear from 257 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: them daily here, multiple times per day. I would say 258 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: on average, I hear from about three or four people 259 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: inside athletic department. Sometimes it's ten, sometimes at zero. But 260 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: I hear from a lot of folks. They're not all coaches. 261 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: A lot of them are coaches. We got a ton 262 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 1: of coaches who listened to the show, got quite a 263 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: few players. The coaches reach out all the time. I 264 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: really appreciate when they reach out and let me know 265 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: I'm off base on something, because that really helps guide 266 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: the conversation here That's why I don't think we have 267 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: a massive miss rate. We don't have a big bust 268 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: rate on the show because a lot of times when 269 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: I start going down a road that may be incorrect, 270 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: defensive line coach here, coordinator here, at several head coaches 271 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: reach out and they'll say, hey, so I got wend 272 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: of this. You might want to know that about this. 273 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll shut up. That's all it takes. I 274 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: know a lot of nutritionist, strength and conditioning. That was 275 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: probably my favorite conversations, actually, player personnel, director of football ops. Anyway, 276 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm naming all the titles because it shows you how 277 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: broad and expansive the average major college football athletic department is. 278 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: I want to get out and actually meet some of 279 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: you guys. I've got here and then COVID happened, haven't 280 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: really been able to be out on the road. So 281 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: I would say that's going to be the meaning to 282 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: this offseason for me. Let's actually go meet some folks 283 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: when it's not a game day. You can meet on 284 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: their terms. It's not on a sideline somewhere, it's not 285 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: in a tunnel somewhere. It's not just in your DMS 286 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: or text messages, and I think that really really helps 287 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: us craft our show a lot better because it just 288 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: adds to the level of informity. It doesn't mean that 289 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: you run and find the nearest microphone and share all 290 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: the details. Ninety five percent of what I get tolds 291 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: off the record anyway. But what it does is it 292 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: helps me not say as much stupid stuff as I 293 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: otherwise would had I not been given this bit of 294 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: information or been nudged in that direction. So it's a 295 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: fine line you walk. Obviously, you don't want to work 296 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: pr for someone, nor do they want you to. Most 297 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: of them are very respectful, but that is going to 298 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: be my goal, one of many. I've also got to 299 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: do a fair amount of storm chasing. I guess those 300 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: are the other relationships I value. A couple of storm 301 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: chasing teams have reached out and said, hey, saddle up 302 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: ride with us in the spring. I will be cashing 303 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: those offers in. By the way, don't offer me to 304 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: come chase with you if you don't want me to 305 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: come chase with you, because it will happen. Stuart's next up, 306 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: Stewart has that question that's going to be very relevant 307 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: this coming weekend. He said, as college football commissioner, would 308 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: you promise to only schedule championship games in regions of 309 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: the country that don't freeze in January. My initial response 310 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: here is yes. But here's what could happen. I could 311 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: go to Indianapolis this week and just fall in love 312 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: with the city, and the folks could treat us right, 313 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: and the game could be handled brilliantly, and I could say, hey, 314 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: there's a roof on this play, so the weather didn't matter. 315 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: And you know what, I was not crazy about walking 316 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: the streets of downtown Indianapolis and fourteen layers of clothes, 317 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: but the experience more than made up for it. That 318 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: could happen could not will I did not enjoy my 319 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: trip to Santa Clara a couple of years ago. It's 320 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: not anything against the host city. It's just I don't 321 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: think college football fits in some cities. I'm not saying 322 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: that about India. I've never seen a game there. Plus, 323 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: it's in the middle of Big Ten country and they 324 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: host the Big Ten championship game, so that's not exactly 325 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: an apples to apples comparison. I get that, But when 326 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: it comes to championship games, here's how I would do it. 327 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: And here's how I would balance it out. If I 328 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: were trying to be fair about it, I would have 329 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: multiple opening weekend games in all kinds of cities in 330 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: the Midwest, in the Upper Midwest. If it had to 331 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: be Indianapolis or maybe Green Bay, Chicago, I would try 332 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: and give those cities big time college football events to 333 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: open the season, because I would know, under my administration, 334 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: we are not going to be playing national championship games 335 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: up there when we have perfectly good cities like New 336 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: Orleans and Miami and Pasadena. How about that? Yeah, Like, 337 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: now those are championship cities in January, Like, that's where 338 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: I would put the games. But I know why they're 339 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: doing what they're doing. They're letting cities bid on the games, 340 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: just like the Super Bowl. Wrestle Mania is handled this way. 341 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: I understand it in an effort to grow the game. 342 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: Jonathan next up. He has two questions. Normally I don't 343 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: entertain two questions, but these are pretty directing to the point. 344 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: His first question is who do you think you are? 345 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: My name is Joshua, and his second question is what 346 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: gives you the right now? I would say my contract, 347 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: some of you get the reference others don't. I'm not 348 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: going to try and impersonate the office. You just need 349 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: to watch the scene. But it is a brilliantly acted scene. 350 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: Toby's finally getting out of here. He is the evil, 351 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: evil snail of an HR director. Michael hates him. He's 352 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: very contemptible. And so on the last day, Michael has 353 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: to do his exit review. This is great. Oh, it's 354 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: like Nirvana. And then Holly walks in and that wasn't 355 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: the plan. But Michael's already got a script pulled out, 356 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: and so he just goes through his list of questions 357 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: he was gonna ask Toby. And the first question is 358 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: who do you think you are? What gives you the right? 359 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: And that's what just got asked. And I try and 360 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: answer all questions as many as I can that come 361 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: in the inbox. And those were two of them. So 362 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: don't say I didn't answer you there, Jonathan, I got you, brother. 363 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: Next up is grumpy old Serge, our second serge of 364 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: the pod. Big what ifs? Yeah, these are big? I 365 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: can see them now. Actually, Immunity Harball leaves Michigan, Ryan 366 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: Day leaves Ohio State. Who are they hiring? So both 367 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: of them are leaving. You know, this is kind of weird. 368 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if most of you are aware of this. Well, 369 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: you may have seen the Harball headlines. You know there 370 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: are Ryan Day rumors out there. What form of validity 371 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: you choose to give them, I'll leave that up to you, 372 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: But there are rumors. There is a subset of college 373 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: football Twitter that firmly believes Jim Harbaugh is about to 374 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: take an NFL job, so is Ryan Day. Also, that 375 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: same subset would lead you to believe that Ohio State 376 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: already has Luke Fickle line up, and if not there, 377 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: then Michigan may have him lined up, or Michigan may 378 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: have Matt Campbell lined up, and so a month from now, 379 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: the head coach at Ohio State will be Luke Fikele 380 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: and the head coach at Michigan will be Matt Campbell. 381 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: I know none of this, and even if I did, 382 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't be able to say it right now, 383 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: because whoever had told me probably locked me down in 384 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: a dungeon until it actually went down. Having said that, 385 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: I guess if we went down the path where both 386 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: of them left, I guess I just gave you my 387 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: answers Luke Fikele would be a hot name. I assume 388 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: he would be called immediately for Ohio State's job, because 389 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: if you locked down Luke Fickle, just think about this. 390 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: Luke Fickele, number one knows Ohio State. You have very 391 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: little doubt about him. You know his character, you know 392 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: his makeup and all that stuff. You know that he's 393 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: a very very good football coach, and you know he'd 394 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: be a lifer for you unless he himself went to 395 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: the NFL and then at Michigan. Matt Campbell is a 396 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: guy who you look at Iowa State and says, probably 397 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: maximize the potent the program there. He may not think that, 398 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: but I think most people look and they understand there's 399 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: some really good things they've been able to do there. 400 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: That program at Michigan, along with Notre Dame, those have 401 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: always been two that have been mentioned with Matt Campbell. 402 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how real that is. Sometimes rumors get 403 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: started and in absence of anyone shooting them down, they 404 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: just continue to permeate. But I think those would be 405 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: my answer. So give me fickled Ohio State, which I 406 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: don't think is happening. For the record, I don't know 407 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: that it's happening, and give me Matt Campbell to Michigan again. 408 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: If it were to happen, great big. If Arthur up 409 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: next trying to incriminate me here, trying to entrap me 410 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 1: and make me incriminate myself, well he's not trying to, 411 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: but his question, if I answered it directly, would force 412 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: me to. So let's be careful here. He said, when 413 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: and where did you record that train clip? And could 414 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: you tell us more about the Cornfield imagery? These are 415 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 1: two questions. The answers are very, very connected, though, So 416 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: the first question is where did I record that train clip? 417 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: There's a brand new gift of me floating around. I 418 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: can't take credit for it, although it is of me. 419 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: A buddy's shot it, who was with me at the time, 420 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: and it has been turned into a gift. Some people 421 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: don't realize what they're actually looking at. So what it 422 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: looks like is I'm sitting somewhere watching a train go by, 423 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: and I just turn and give the thumbs up. What 424 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: you don't realize is we're actually on a train watching 425 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: a train go by. And I don't mean Amtrak guys, 426 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: I mean full freight bandit mode we're out there on 427 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: a freight train, so we do that from time to time. 428 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: Told you three hobbies of mine college football, stormchasing, train hopping. 429 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: I recommend a maximum of one out of those three 430 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: to most of you, of your normal adults or normal 431 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: people in general. But here's what happened. What happened was 432 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: during some time I want to be very vague, heared 433 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: sometime during my very short Christmas break that was recorded 434 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: somewhere in the southeast. That's as specific as I'd like 435 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: to get now. The second question was, could you tell 436 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: us more about the cornfield imagery? You guys, remember back 437 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: when the season was about to start, when I was 438 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: building up to the Iowa versus Iowa State game. I 439 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: was so jacked that I was to get to go 440 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: to Ames, Iowa for my first ever Iowa State game. 441 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: And we did. The result not exactly what I wanted, 442 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: but it was also ninety six degrees that day as 443 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: I look at snow fall sideways outside my window now, 444 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: But it was a nice trip. We loved our trip 445 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: up there. We were very very well received. But leading 446 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: up to that, I kept posting this picture of me 447 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: out in the middle of a cornfield like I was 448 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: looking up to heaven arms extended. That also was taken 449 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: on a train hopping expedition. We were in somewhere in 450 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: rural Georgia. It's as specific as I'd like to get again. 451 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: We were out obviously in a cornfield. And what's funny 452 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: is I was out there and then I posted it 453 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: in correlation with the Iowa Iowa State game, and all 454 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: these folks from Iowa aka Iowans, they kept coming at 455 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: me and saying, I can tell that's not Iowa corn, 456 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: Like I don't know the difference in corn. Corn's corn 457 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: to me. That's going to be very very ill received 458 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: amongst my friends in Iowa. Corn was corn to me, 459 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: So I didn't know, but they corrected me. But anyway, 460 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: both of those pictures, as it turns out, they come 461 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: from the same sort of trip. It is a train 462 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: hopping trip, a THHT as we call them in the industry, 463 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: the industry of train hopping. Next up, a very very 464 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: pressing question, probably one of the more pressing questions of 465 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: our time. Does Kirby look more like an Arby's manager 466 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: or a Checkers manager. I've got a very quick answer 467 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: to this. Kirby Smart's probably like me. Kirby Smart is 468 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: probably an Arby's manager because I think they get paid 469 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more. But he's steadily sneaking out the 470 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: back during his smoke break. But he's not really smoking 471 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: because we don't smoke. He's going over to Checkers because 472 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: he secretly likes the fries better. Checkers has better fries 473 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: than Arby's. Haven't tested this theory in a while. I 474 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: think Checkers has better fries than Arby's, but it's a 475 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: smaller chain. But we happen to have one in Columbus, 476 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: and I used to get the fries. I go somewhere 477 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: else for everything else. I get the fries at Checkers. 478 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: So Kirby's probably doing okay for himself managing that Arby's, 479 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: but he rolls with the Checkers fries. I fully believe 480 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: that Ruben up. Next interesting question here, never been asked this. 481 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: He said, how much just weightlifting help your ability to 482 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: do your job on a daily basis? I think it's imperative, 483 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: but I can't exactly tell you why. I will say 484 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: I think it correlates very very evenly to the drive 485 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: that you need to have just to be at the 486 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: top of your game, because to me being at the 487 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: top of our game collectively, you and I and our 488 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: production staff. I view it as a joint effort. Obviously 489 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: for us to be at the top of our game 490 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: means to be at the top of the industry, means 491 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: to have the best show out there. To do that, 492 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: you don't take days off, you don't mail shows in. 493 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: That sounds like it's common sense, and everyone can say 494 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: when they sign the contract, oh, I'm going to work hard, 495 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: and everyone can say, I'm not going to take days off. Okay, Well, 496 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: get fifty seven shows in, get three hundred and ten 497 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: shows in, and just wake up on a random Tuesday 498 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: and don't feel it. But know that you got millions 499 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: of folks out in an audience who expect you to 500 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: be at the top of your game no matter what. 501 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: You expect a certain standard to be met on this show, 502 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: and you got to go meet it. Doesn't really matter 503 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: matter how you feel. You got to go meet it. Oh, 504 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: by the way, a lot of the folks in that 505 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: audience are working jobs. They cannot stand right now if 506 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: you dare to call yourself working when all you're doing 507 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: is talking in a microphone about football, and you give 508 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: them a subpar product. The tune you out. I'd tune 509 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: me out if I did that. Well, I work out 510 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: the same way like I go to the gym and 511 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: feel the same way. In fact, the days where I 512 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: end up getting the best work in are some of 513 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: the days where I feel like trash when I pull 514 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: up in the parking lot, because those are the days 515 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: where you've got to trigger something. Tell you another place. 516 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: This used to happen to me. In sports, there's this trigger, 517 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 1: this mental trigger, the mechanism, as Kevin Costner called it, 518 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: and for love of the game, you got to clear 519 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: the mechanism. Sometimes the mechanism is just all the junk 520 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: that shouldn't be there, cleared out of there, focus on 521 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: the task at hand, and then be as close to 522 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: perfect as God will possibly let you be. But to 523 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: do that sometimes it's hard. But what you can do 524 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: is you can use it to your advantage. So in sports, 525 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: back in the day, specifically in baseball, it is hard 526 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: to play baseball in cold weather. I hate it. I 527 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: hate I specifically hate wind in cold weather. Well, what 528 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: I learned is you cannot control the weather. We're playing outdoors, obviously, 529 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: you cannot control the weather. The other guy is mandated 530 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: to be in the same weather you are. So what 531 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: I learned is if you can truly clear the mechanism, 532 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: if you can suck it up, you can turn it 533 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: into a two on one. If you're playing tennis, it's 534 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: a two on one. If it's baseball, you can turn 535 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: it into ten on nine. Chances are the other guy 536 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: is too mentally weak to think that way. The other 537 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: guy's going to be affected by the external factors. If 538 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: the external factors are going to be there regardless, if 539 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: you can be mentally tough enough to harness them, you 540 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: actually turn them into your advantage. You are using your 541 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: own God given ability and you're using the weather against 542 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: that other guy. I used to think that way. Well, 543 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: I also think that way when I go to the gym. 544 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: If I don't feel like going, there are other people 545 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: out there who don't feel like going, even though I 546 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm not technically competing against them. Kind of pretend I am. 547 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: For this scenario, I think about one hundred other people 548 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: sitting in a parking lot at the same time I am, 549 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: and there are countless people at the same time I 550 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: am sitting in that parking lot not feeling like going 551 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: in I am going to harness that feeling. I'm going 552 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: to clear the mechanism, and I'm going in there. It's 553 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: also the same way when we are formatting a show. 554 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: There's this obvious, low hanging fruit over here. Now I've 555 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: got sense enough to look at it and say, that's 556 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: so cheap, And I know every show is going to 557 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: run with that, and we could too, and we'd turn 558 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: a good number on it. But our audience would see 559 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: through it, because I know who our audience is. I 560 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: know who my audience is. I know you would see 561 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: through it, and I know you would actually look at 562 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: it and you would say, wait a second, I come 563 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: over to this show because it's not like all those 564 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: other shows. Why did he just do a segment that 565 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: sounds like all the other segments? It sounds like all 566 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: these other shows out here. That's kind of cheap. I 567 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: use that, and I clear the mechanism, get the junk 568 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: out of here, and I say, no, not talking about that. 569 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: Let's go talk about something else. Let's go do a 570 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: mood track for Colorado football instead of talking about that. 571 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: That's kind of how I approach it. Now. I know 572 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: that sounds really hodgepodged, But if you get down to 573 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: the core of it. It's the same mentality for everything. 574 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: It's very process oriented mentality. But you've got to be 575 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: very clear on what your destination is, like, what is 576 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: the goal? Where are you headed? Because you can run 577 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: in a circle as fast as you say bolt and 578 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: not really get anywhere. You got to be running straight. 579 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: You got to be running towards something. What do you 580 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: working towards? Same way in the gym, same way with 581 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: our show, same way professionally. Personally, I don't know how 582 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: in the world is turned into a Tony Robbins convention, 583 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: but that's kind of the way that I think. So 584 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: I do think that working out does help, and also 585 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: it keeps your engine going all day too. The way 586 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: I like to do it is I'll go to the 587 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: gym before we do a show because I want to 588 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: I want to make the end of that show the 589 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: finish line for the day, and I want to be 590 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: able to finish very strong. If I were doing the 591 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: show and then going to the gym, I don't think 592 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: that would work. But doing the gym and then going 593 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: to the show, I think that works out very well. 594 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: And that's how I stack every single one of my days, 595 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: last question, last ding ding ding, last question. Alert. We'll 596 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: do it right after this. Kenny's coming at us with 597 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: a question that's gonna make you think a little bit. 598 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: He said, does nil make athletic scholarships somewhat obsolete for 599 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: recruiting purposes? Do you get what he's saying? Think about 600 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: this now. Kenny's saying, does nil? In other words, players 601 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: making money off their name, likeness and image and all 602 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: that good stuff. Does that make scholarships obsolete? Well, here's 603 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: what he's saying. Everyone's focused on the hard number, the 604 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: twenty five eighty five, and you can only sign twenty 605 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: five kids in a class. Well that's not true. You 606 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: can only sign kids to twenty five scholarships per class. 607 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: That's the rule. You can go get walk ons all 608 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: day long, and normally what walk on, what walk on 609 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: has meant is a kid that wasn't good enough to 610 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: sign a scholarship. But see what if it all of 611 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: a sudden becomes this. What if I own Pate State 612 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: car dealership over here and I am working in conjunction. Well, 613 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: let's say I own a car dealership and I am 614 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: a booster for Pate State. So there we go, Let's 615 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: say a scholarship in any given year to Pate State 616 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: is worth fifty thousand dollars. We're pretty high end over here. 617 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: We value the academics and the athletics. Let's say that 618 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: car dealership signs up five guys per year and pays 619 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: their full ride. That's what they are giving them in 620 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: NIO money. They are giving them what equates to the scholarship, 621 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 1: plus some more money on top of that. Well, at 622 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: that point, those kids don't really need my scholarship. I'm 623 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: working hand in hand with that car dealership to basically 624 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: work around having to give those guys a scholarship. So 625 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: I've got a five star running back who's technically a 626 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: walk on. That's what Kenny's saying, and what stops schools 627 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: from doing that. My answer Kenny is, I don't know. 628 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: This is where it really benefits us, as I said before, 629 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: to have a compliance directors and player personnel, folks who 630 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: listened to the show, because they will reach out and 631 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: I'll get an answer on this in my inbox, probably 632 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: by sundown. Anyone who's welcome, by the way, to contribute 633 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: at Late Kick. Josh inbox is always open. I think 634 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: there may be something that is immediately said that makes 635 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: me go, oh, but off the top of my head, 636 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what that would be. That's kind of 637 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: everybody learning as they go. That's kind of been the 638 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: nature of this whole thing. All Right, we gotta get 639 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: out here. I got to get this sent to producer Jordan. 640 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening today. Spotify, Apple 641 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you are, you can give a five 642 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: star review. Now podcast is rocketing up the charts. Took 643 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: a little dip for Christmas, boy, we are back back 644 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: in a big way. These numbers are insane. Thank you, 645 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. You know I don't take it 646 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: for granted. But even if you know it already, I'm 647 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: going to tell you again, I don't take it for granted. 648 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: This is the best job in the world, and I 649 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: just try and make it the best show that it 650 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: can possibly be for every single one of us. Thank 651 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: you so much for producer Jordan, I'm Josh Payton. Have 652 00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: yourselves a great rest of your day, and God bless you.