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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody today on the pod, we have an award

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars to like make this film. I had to

433
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: go on Indie Go Go and really hustle for that money.

434
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: And I think that there's something about I guess me

435
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: being in this industry where I hope that it gets easier,

436
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: but I think because of how I present, it's still

437
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: people are still I think surprised at like a black

438
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: woman leading and being the captain of the ship so

439
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: I still kind of like revisit, like you're still a hustler,

440
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: You're still you know, a rapper with the camera, and

441
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: you gotta still kind of like push your mixtape, which

442
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: is my films out here. So I think Queen just

443
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: always like reminds me to like, wow, I really had

444
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: the audacity to have all these extras and like direct

445
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: this and like have almost like the behind the scenes

446
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: of it was crazy. El Varner was in it, and

447
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: she like literally was in my film and I literally

448
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: just hit her up on Twitter or x now and.

449
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: It's forever Twitter, but go ahead. I was like, who

450
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: was calling this at? But I hear you go ahead.

451
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: I know, Okay, it's Twitter. Yeah, I'm like, bro like

452
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: fuoling with that man. It is Twitter. Okay, what kind

453
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: of exactly exactly? But no, I just that is a

454
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: part of just a project that's really near and dear

455
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: to my heart. And I think it was really like

456
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: the first time where I also felt creatively safe to

457
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: make something, and I think sometimes I'm still in search

458
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: of that. I think it's been hard in recent years

459
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: to like find collaborators who don't come from a space

460
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: of ego or insecurity, and so I think I'm still

461
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: wanting sometimes to go back to Queen days where it

462
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: felt like everybody was just down clause. And so I

463
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: think that project for me is still like just very special.

464
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: I love that. I love Queen. You guys, go check

465
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: it out. Where can people see Queen? You know, where

466
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: can they see it? You have a website? No with

467
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: with your projects up there? Now, I need to do better. Okay,

468
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: So it was a little engine that could. It was

469
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: like on Aspire TV for a long time. Okay, I

470
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: have to double check to see if it's still on Amazon,

471
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: but it's just been out there for a while. I'm

472
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: also wondering if I should just release it on my website.

473
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: So it's there, But because it's like a proof of concept,

474
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to navigate if I should just put

475
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: it out there because you know, people can sometimes take things. Yeah,

476
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: I guess exactly. I get it.

477
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: You want to your IP to be protected. Okay, well listen,

478
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 3: I ask that because I'm going to ask you a

479
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: series of black girl questions because I think you're you

480
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 3: are healing us one project at a time, you know

481
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 3: what I mean.

482
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: You are healing us one project at a time. But

483
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: you know.

484
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: When you say we mishandle one another, what does what

485
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: does soft look and feel like? For a black girl?

486
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: It looks like this right, You're seeing me, me, seeing

487
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: you us not interrupting each other, like letting someone finish

488
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: their thought and like really he like really like letting

489
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: their words penetrate. So it's not you're missing it. You know.

490
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: It looks like maybe just sit this one out and

491
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: just like let the person just get all the tears out,

492
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: all the everything out, and just maybe just hold their hand,

493
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: like just being there, you know, being a soft place

494
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: to land, being a comforting place to land, maybe planning

495
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: things for your friends where you see, Okay, she's a

496
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: single mom. She hasn't had maybe a day to herself

497
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: and being like, you know what, she doesn't have a

498
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: man right now. But I'm going to be her surrogate

499
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: man in this moment, and I'm gonna book her a

500
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: spa day. I'm going to let her feel like the

501
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: queen that she is. And I just wish that people

502
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: would be a little bit more service space service oriented

503
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: in the way that we treat ourselves. You know, I

504
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: think a lot of people, especially in the dating space,

505
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: want so badly to have a partner, but yet it's

506
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: like we still wouldn't really know what to do with

507
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: that partner because we haven't healed. So I think, like,

508
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: and look, I say that with someone with a boyfriend,

509
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: but you know, I've learned a lot being with him

510
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: of like, oh wow, we shouldn't have said that. That

511
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: was really nasty, Like that was not fine. So having

512
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: the mirror, like being okay with being a mirror to

513
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: someone and like and maybe you're wrong, like saying I

514
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: sup the way that I said that or the way

515
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: that I approached that that wasn't cool, And I hope

516
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: that you'll give me an opportunity show up differently. I

517
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: think these are all ways that we can just be

518
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: a little kinder to each other. I think, you know,

519
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: I get so tired of seeing I think we all

520
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: get tired of seeing the killings, the shootings, all of

521
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: the negativity. But I think I want us to like

522
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: almost make positivity like a thing that goes viral, like

523
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: even how you collaborate with your collaborators, right, like showing

524
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: what does radical leadership look like? You know, what does

525
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: paying people well look like? What does check ins look like?

526
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's just all these things.

527
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: That yeah, like the girl the paper got me, I'm

528
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: all a with Hello, Yeah, what does what does black

529
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: girl Joey look like for you?

530
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: For you? Oh wow? I love traveling. I selfishly like

531
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: one of one of me all the black people around

532
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: the world, honestly and make stories and like have the

533
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: most beautiful experiences with humans, because you know, like my

534
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: parents struggled, but they were able to help me out

535
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: and let me go to Italy, right because as much

536
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: as it was helped from my school, was also then

537
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: putting sacrificing all that, and so some of their sacrifice

538
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: I literally felt. I feel like I've become more like

539
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: a global citizen and I've been able to see cultures

540
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: that I probably would have never experienced if I didn't

541
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: have that experience of going abroad. So that's definitely one.

542
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: I think it feels like this therapy, like beautiful conversations

543
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: with another black women or a good good friend, I

544
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: don't know, eating something good, like really good my ass off,

545
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: like looking good, like dressing up. I love to dress up,

546
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: being in the ocean and letting it kind of like

547
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: wash over me and kind of having this baptism experience

548
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: where I just feel like washed over by the water

549
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: and kind of like even baths make me feel like

550
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: that too, where I'm just like I'm just washing off,

551
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: letting it it go, and like candles level good candle

552
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: and perfume. Amen.

553
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: Every champion and every champion is the be a champion,

554
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: a champion and carried Chapion and Carrie Chatty a champion

555
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: and carried Chapion and Carrie.

556
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: Chby entertainment getting naked word.

557
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: Harry Champion and Carrie Chappy is to be a champion,

558
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: a champion and Carrie Chpy and the girl a Champion

559
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: and carry Chapion and Carrie Sheby entertainment getting.

560
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: Naked work really really quickly.

561
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: The other black girl experience that I want you to

562
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 3: talk to me about what does black girls in sisterhood

563
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: look like? And what I mean by that is that

564
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: oftentimes we feel like there can only be one and

565
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: there's a competition, And I want you to talk to

566
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: me about what black girls in sisterhood in partnership and connection,

567
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: what does that look like?

568
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: Well, this one might be a deep cut because as

569
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: much as I've gone to a historically black college, all women,

570
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: all female rights elmen l day and also have kept

571
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very communal, right, I'm very tribal in

572
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: my thinking, and I really want to see us be

573
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: the best that we can be. But some black women

574
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: have really scarred me and black guarred me in ways

575
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: that I think I'm still trying to process and heal from.

576
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: So I think black sisterhood or black woman's sisterhood and

577
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: leadership and coming together. You know, it looks like acknowledging

578
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: the ways in which we've we've hurt each other and

579
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: if it makes sense to reconcile with that person, you know,

580
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: I'll spury it in details. But there have been projects

581
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: where I've h black women in leadership positions and they definitely,

582
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: unfortunately haven't always shown up as their best. And I

583
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: take accountability too, But it's made me be like, as

584
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: much as I want to work with my people, and

585
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: that is I'm you know, black all day, I'm still

586
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, can we not have a crabs

587
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: in a barrel situation?

588
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: Go on?

589
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: Where I get in this? In this project, I may

590
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: be the director, but that doesn't mean that I still

591
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't do what you're doing, or even lower than that right.

592
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: So I don't know how to answer this one because

593
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: it's it's just tricky because I keep on feeling like

594
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: every time I'm hiring or wanting to give someone a shot,

595
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: it blows up in my face. So I don't know. Yeah,

596
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you what I'd like for

597
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: it to look like. I'd like for it to look

598
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: like truth and honesty and transparency and real love, like

599
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: a goape love where it's like I really am with you,

600
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: not just in the good times, but the bad times,

601
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: the ugly times, the times when you want to off yourself,

602
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: the times when you're like why am I here? All that?

603
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: Seeing me through and seeing us through that. That's where

604
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, where are those women at where are those relationships?

605
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: Because I feel like these days people don't have the

606
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: capacity for realness. They just want low maintenance friends. And

607
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm not a low maintenance person. I'm a deep person

608
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: and I'm looking to go to the end of the

609
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: earth for people. But I just don't find that. Sometimes

610
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: black women or some that I have met want to

611
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: do that too, So I don't know, that's real. No,

612
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: that's real. You said so many real things, and.

613
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: I concur I've had black women that I love and

614
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: look up to that I've been dying to meet or

615
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: wanted to work with, And when I finally had the opportunity,

616
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, WHOA, this is so disappointing.

617
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: And do you think that it? How did we get here?

618
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: Like, how, in your opinion, do we get to the

619
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: point where we just don't want to embrace each other?

620
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: Why we really want there to be just one? Why

621
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 3: do we adhere to the white man's philosophy of Okay,

622
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: that's my pet today, because they rotate their pets out,

623
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: they like who they like, and yet we feel like

624
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: we have to fight to get one position. And if

625
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 3: we work together, we could be so powerful. I'm saying

626
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: that to myself as well, because I may have offended

627
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: and treated people unfairly, unknowingly or knowingly. But when you

628
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: are awrive and you're aware and you're like, oh, we're

629
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: all in this together, and it looks more beautiful that way.

630
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: No, but at least you can acknowledge that, Right, I'm

631
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: not always perfect, because I'm not, you know, I'm there

632
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: are times when I can be short, right, there are

633
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: plenty of things I can still work on. But I

634
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: also I know that there are a lot of good

635
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: things too, and trying to be a person who comes

636
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: from abundance and not scarcity.

637
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 3: And ways say that again, this is important, guys, excuse

638
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: me everyone, It's important that you say that you got

639
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: to be politically correct these days.

640
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: You have to.

641
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't trying not to be, but I will tell

642
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: you the reality is is that if we operate from

643
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: abundance and there is more, we won't feel like we

644
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: are holding on to the last bit of crumbs. We

645
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: just won't feel as if that we can't share this

646
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: gift because there's more to come.

647
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: How do you.

648
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: How do you see black women? Give me an example

649
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: of black women working from abundance, black class working from abundance.

650
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: I mean something that I do, and I guess I've

651
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: been secretly wanting this from other people is and I'm

652
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: trying to work on that. Right is I'll just send fellowships,

653
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: grants opportunities to people just because because I'm just like

654
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: you are so dope and incredible and people need to

655
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: know about you. And I know that because of classes

656
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: of racism, all the isms, you may not be getting

657
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: your shot. So I'm just going to send you this

658
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: thing and hopefully somebody will see your greatness like I do.

659
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: And so I just wish that we were coming from

660
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: that space with everything, whether it's sending someone up on

661
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: a date, fixing the little flyaway hair and your friend's hair,

662
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: and you're like, let me just help you in this moment, right,

663
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so many things of like if I

664
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: really want this person to show up as them but

665
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: the two point zero version of themselves, I'm going to

666
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: make sure that they're amazing mind, body, soul. So I'm

667
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: going to check in also to be like, how are

668
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: you really you know? And no, I may not have

669
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: the hour, but I'm gonna give it to you because

670
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: I sense that you need that hour and I know

671
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: that you would do hopefully that for me in return,

672
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: and if you don't, I'll find it some other way.

673
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: So I think it's like we really have to stop

674
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: this diceiness of like I have no friends he or

675
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, I have my friends. I don't need new friends.

676
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm good, you know, or you know I have my

677
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: little job. I'm not going to help this assistant who

678
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: literally is asking me questions because maybe they want to

679
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: be in the position that I want it or that

680
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm in right now. So I think it's like we

681
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: have to find the inconvenience. I think we're so convenience

682
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: or yeah, convenience to everything. You know. We can go

683
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: on our phones and get food, we can go unhinge

684
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: or whatever. We can do anything we want, right But

685
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: I still think we're lacking that intentionality. And so I think, Wow,

686
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: if we had more intentionality and we're okay with being inconvenience, man,

687
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: it's okay to be inconvenienced, just a little bit. Let's

688
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: just take a little bit of that. Yeah, I mean

689
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: real quick, Like last night, I was out. My friends

690
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: are on the show Martha's Vineyard on Bravo. They had

691
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: an after party. I'm going. My friend drives me around

692
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: to the train station. This homeless man is asking me, Am,

693
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: I coming downstairs. I'm coming downstairs. But a lot of

694
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: people may see the homeless person and may say, I'm

695
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: not going to speak to you just because you blackleg

696
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: I am, I'm not going to speak to you. I

697
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: try to come from a non judgmental space, and I

698
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: listened to this man, and that's what I'm talking about

699
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: of Like I could have just brushed him off. I

700
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: could have been dismissive, and I get it. Safety is

701
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: a thing, but I guess because I'm also like a

702
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: person of faith, I also realized that God covers me

703
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: and that extends to everyone who wants to, you know,

704
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: be in his will right, and that I'm okay, you know,

705
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: And what is it for me to just have a

706
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: conversation where I learned that he's been you know, to

707
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: rikers six times. Please don't make like no more. Let

708
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: it stop at six. And I don't know. In this moment,

709
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: I saw another human and I just if we just

710
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: saw each other a little bit more, took our headphones off,

711
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: look people in the eye show, you know, like just

712
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: regular stuff. I just who knows where we could be

713
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: because I just feel like COVID has really messed us up,

714
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, and we just we're not the same. New

715
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: York is not the same. Nowhere is the same. But

716
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: I think we all deep down one connection so bad.

717
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: But that's all we want, that's all we Yeah, yeah,

718
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: that's all we want, but we won't do it. We

719
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: won't do the things get there because we're like, we

720
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: want to be inconvenient to have that connection. Yeah, that's

721
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: in our bubble and our little bubble, our little you know.

722
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: You said a lot of you said a lot of

723
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: things that are true, and some things very convicting of me.

724
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: You're like, I got time like you with the the

725
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: guy I would have and I don't want to. I

726
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: got my friends. You thank you because that was just

727
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: convicting of me when I and I'm like, these are

728
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: the things that we need to be reminded of in

729
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: our everyday hustle as we try to go and if

730
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: we and we often say black girl, magic, black girl, joy,

731
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: black experienced sisterhood, we all are we. What I do

732
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: believe we do as black women, what you have done

733
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: as a black woman with your work, is that we

734
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: do center ourselves and our experience. We very rarely, at

735
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: least I don't I attract likeness.

736
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 3: I try to find people who center black women because

737
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 3: we aren't. And people roll their eyes and they don't

738
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: want to hear about it, and they don't want to

739
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: hear about this and that. But I am wholly dedicated

740
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: to centering black women in everything that I do. I

741
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: will always talk from a black woman's experience because my

742
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: experience is not yours. But I want to bring you

743
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: into my world because my world matters and I love

744
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: Tony Morrison. When when the when the journalist said to her,

745
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: remember you know the famous clip, well will you ever

746
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: consider focusing on the mainstream? And she said, that is

747
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: so incredibly centered of you. This is my mainstream. And

748
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, tell them, Tony, because we matter and you

749
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: have been able to do that, and I'm more than

750
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 3: honored that you have the time to talk to me

751
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: today on the podcast. And when I tell you, I

752
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: don't know if you feel it, because we do live

753
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: in a world of I haven't done it yet, but

754
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: you are doing it currently, and I hope you enjoyed

755
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 3: the journey of centering us and telling our stories from

756
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: a soft and healing place so that the greater good

757
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: can be done for all of us. And there's just

758
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: so much more for you. I am just so excited.

759
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: If I was an actress, I'd be like, put me

760
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 3: in your films, girl, I don't believe in those.

761
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: Girl, I can't.

762
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: You would get me on set and be like this

763
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 3: the black girl I said, I don't like, because she'd

764
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: be in there like do what I know the lines?

765
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: I miss them? Give them to me again in a

766
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: graceful way. I say, we're gonna get you together.

767
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: We gotta get you all together. I want to document

768
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: the process. I want to follow your steps. You are

769
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: truly black girl joy for me. You really are for

770
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: me right now in this moment. I don't believe that

771
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: any of my interviews are by accident, and I needed

772
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 3: to hear that.

773
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: So thank you. No, look, this is one of my

774
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: favorite interviews. And I'm serious when I say thank you

775
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: for a loud me to show up as me, you know,

776
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: and like being your hosts. I mean, I mean your

777
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: interviewee is the opportunity to just like clean in. I mean,

778
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: you have such a way with words and just your research.

779
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: It says here, but you know, sometimes it can be wrong.

780
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: I know you get to the need of bath like

781
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: it makes the person want to emote, want to like

782
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: really share more. Not the like that, what is it?

783
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: The the coded curated perspective Like you make me want

784
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: to like share my story And I don't always feel

785
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: like that with interviews, and I don't feel like I can.

786
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: So I just appreciate you creating that space, carving out

787
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: that universe for us to be seen, so over us

788
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: to be seen and to be heard. Thank you for

789
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: doing the same.

790
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: We're doing the work. We're doing the work. I'm going

791
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: to try to maybe talk to a homeless man in

792
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 3: the subway. I'm not ready for that, just shaid, I

793
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: just moved here. I just moved here five months ago.

794
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: Be so I can't. I can't say that I had

795
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: that vision for me yet. Exactly. Everyone tells me they

796
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: get smacked by homeless people. Everyone's like, I got smacked.

797
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: The girl comes to my house the other day, She's like, girl,

798
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: this homeless man pushed me down. I'm like, dang, if

799
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: I hear one wordy story. Look, you're you know. You

800
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: made me a little feel you made me feel a

801
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: little more safe. You talked. You guys are friends. You guys.

802
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: You saw a human Okay, I don't know you the

803
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 3: first of its kind since I've lived here. The other

804
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: stories are people getting slapped and pushed, and I'm like, okay, okay,

805
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: I just keep an in a row with you.

806
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: Be I don't, I know, I don't. Look. I don't

807
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: want you to get slacked. No, I don't want you

808
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: because then you're gonna be like I'm gonna have to elbow.

809
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: I was just like she told me to come out

810
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: here and say hi, and I did, and look what happened.

811
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: This is beasball she did this, this is bemonnaise. Oh right,

812
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: told me to come.

813
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 3: And say hi, to know, and then we said I know.

814
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: And by the way, all jokes aside, I felt like

815
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: that was honestly a beautiful, beautiful extension of your of

816
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: your generosity of spirit, and so I think that if

817
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: it feels right, you should do that. I absolutely I

818
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: thought it was beautiful.

819
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: And I should say that, And I'm glad that you

820
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: said that too, because I'm not. I don't want anyone

821
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: to feel unsafe, you know. It was also really disparaging

822
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: to me that a black woman told me that she

823
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: feels like she always has to look amazing because in

824
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: the event that something happens to her, she still wants

825
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: someone to have enough empathy or compassion to like save her.

826
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: And so when I've heard things like it's just like,

827
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: I don't want black women to put ourselves in even

828
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: more danger, right, because you know, that's a lot being

829
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: in these cities, and how you present people may really

830
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: you know, be on you, and so generosity but carefulness,

831
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: like I'm doing a discernment, Yeah, discernment, yeah, flash. I

832
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: don't know.

833
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: I don't and neither do I, you know, because I

834
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: kind of like the city, and neither do I. I

835
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: want to just you know, I have a few plans,

836
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: you know, and I just I just when I say

837
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: that in my joking way. My realtor said, I was,

838
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: I said to on my sage. He said, when I

839
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: first moved here, I said, should I start taking the train?

840
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: He was like, well, I only got slapped once, and

841
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: I've been living here fifty years. And I was like,

842
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: just once, just once.

843
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: Now, you said to a girl who's from California. You're

844
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: in your own car the whole time, and you're safe

845
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: and you're on your own And he's like, just once.

846
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 3: He was like, but you need it, and true enough,

847
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: not you need to lab but I need the grit

848
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 3: of the city. California can be so stale and sterile,

849
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: right like it can be very Hollywood, very Hollywood, as

850
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: you know. I think everyone who's born and raised in

851
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: la is in Hollywood, though, But that's my thing. But

852
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: this city, the beauty of this city, it's character really

853
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 3: is necessary to add texture to your life.

854
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: It really is.

855
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: So what you did was beautiful and as we joke,

856
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: because you know, I'm a joke about this forever. I'm like,

857
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: Bee is up here talking be Monday, talking to homeless

858
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: people associo. Okay, why do you think she's so.

859
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: Good at what she does. She's taken in the city

860
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Speaker 1: literally at three am. She's you know, she's using those

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Speaker 1: documentary skills. She's yes, yes, look look special. Yes it

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Speaker 1: was a big chance.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, b Bonet un naked, completely naked, and also

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Speaker 3: honoring us, just with so much knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here, Thank you, and look all

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Speaker 1: the best to you.

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Speaker 3: All jokes aside. Seriously, when I moved here, I was

868
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Speaker 3: told not to be on the subway at a certain time.

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Speaker 3: I think, and I think what we were laughing at

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Speaker 3: and having fun with was the idea that you, listen,

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Speaker 3: go to use the subway with some discernment. It could

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Speaker 3: be dangerous. I'm not going to say that it's not

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Speaker 3: not dangerous. But she had a beautiful experience. I'm just

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Speaker 3: not ready to start talking to homeless people on the train.

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Speaker 3: I don't have that yet. I'm new here. Give me

876
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Speaker 3: a year under my belt. All right, back to the film.

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Speaker 3: If you want to watch the film. There are several

878
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Speaker 3: ways to do it if you have comcasts. Comcast Black

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Speaker 3: Experience on the Exfinity channel definitely has Black Girls and

880
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Speaker 3: a whole host of other black films. They are driving

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Speaker 3: creators and people who are seeking new content to that

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Speaker 3: actual channel. I think it's a beautiful space for black

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Speaker 3: people to live and thrive and see that see themselves

884
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Speaker 3: in various ways. So that's where you can catch Black Girls.

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Speaker 3: But if you don't have commit which is very feasible,

886
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Speaker 3: download zoom ou xumo and on zoom ou it's free.

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Speaker 3: But to me it is actually priceless because you're learning

888
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Speaker 3: so much, so much, so much, so much. She'll do

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Speaker 3: that zoomu x one, and there are a couple of

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Speaker 3: other places. Let me just make sure I have the

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Speaker 3: other places where you can catch the film, so you

892
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Speaker 3: guys won't say that I didn't give you the heads up. Okay,

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Speaker 3: here they are Comcast Black Experience on Xfinity channel or

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Speaker 3: X one or zoom ou and flex. Look at all

895
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Speaker 3: these places where you guys can create. I don't want

896
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Speaker 3: to hear y'all can't find no content. I want to

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Speaker 3: hear no more about two b or y'all only want

898
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Speaker 3: to watch two B films. Watch something that's gonna uplift y'all. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we'll be back next week.