WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Drafting WR? 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:08.160 This He's Talking Cowboys Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:19.440 World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. No, your hosts, 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:26.520 Micky Spagnola, robbed Phillips, Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. It's 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.280 a cloudy Tuesday here from the s WBC Mortgage Studios 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.080 at the Star in Frisco. Once again, fifty fifty on 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:38.280 the opening this week as Mickey Spagnola is back. Heckma 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.880 Harrison is back. But guess who's back for the first 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.440 time in almost a month. Rob Phillips back at the 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:49.400 table for Talking Cowboys. Welcome Rob, thanks man, it's good 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.120 to be back. Good to be back. And some applause 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.360 it was, yes, some big applause for you. And he 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.320 doesn't want to Yeah, he doesn't want to push the button. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.800 It's okay. But at the same time, happy things for 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.120 you and your family. We wish you the best in man, 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.760 how you feeling right now? No, ask him if he's sleeping. Yeah, 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.160 how are you sleeping right now? I'm a little sleep deprived. 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.840 It's gone from she'll sleep seven hours. She's four months, 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.000 four weeks old today, she's a month old. Today, she 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.600 sleeps seven hours straight. Some nights. Some nights like last night, 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.760 not at all. Yeah, but it's fine because she's too 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.640 cute to get mad at. But I am happy to 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.320 be back, happy to be back. And uh, it's funny 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.720 the things that get you happy when you're a new parent, 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.360 like when they burp everything, Like it's like, man, I 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.600 accomplish something, you know, so why don't they are grumpy? 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.520 That's right, that's right. Whole life changes. But it's gonna 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.120 be back. And a lot of things have kind of 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.800 come and gone since you've been gone. I mean the 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.720 NFL combine now in the rearview mirror, a TV broadcaster 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.400 now is being paid seventeen million dollars in a former 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.240 Cowboys quarterback at that, and Tony Romo and his new 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.240 contract with CBS and then making You wrote about it 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.240 a little bit in your mix shots this past week. 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.800 But the famed Leaning Tower of Dallas is coming gone. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.600 It went yesterday you sat about it came tumbling down. 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.120 I wanted to see how long it could last? Right, 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.000 what was do you know the amount of days that 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:14.680 it ended up lasting? I read it? Is it like twelve? 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.200 It's almost two weeks? Twelve, let's say twelve? The things 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:23.640 that we sensationalized these days, halfcial media. We love it 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.240 is the leaning Tower of Dallas. It's gonna say if 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.280 you're a tourist, if you're thinking about tourism in Dallas, 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.040 is that a comment on the things to do and 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.519 see in Dallas? If we're like, we got its shape, man, 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.880 this is gonna be a landmark in Dallas. Shape. The 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:39.000 amazing thing is so that the wrecking ball was hitting 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.440 it in the brick wood fall, little piece of cement 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.239 with fall, and then when it came tumbling down, it 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.359 got hit up top and the whole thing came down. Yeah, 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.880 and it was like, well, why didn't that happen before 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.360 you find the sweet spot? I think they did that 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.560 by design. They knew all the marketing dollars, the T 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.800 shirts with I mean, the thing had his own Instagram, 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.480 it dead and Twitter as well, and it was it 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.919 was tweeting from the dead yesterday saying I'm a wreck 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:11.320 I'm Peter. Channel I think Channel eight had a live 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.600 camera on it the whole time. It was streaming on 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.280 their website so you could check in on at any 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.760 time you want it. It It was just to make sure, yeah, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.040 that's isn't it crazy, like you said, the things that 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.000 we sensationalize, and I mean that was a construction failure. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.440 It wasn't supposed to be there. No, actually it was 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.840 a construction brilliant Who remember built it? Built it awfully? Well, yeah, 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.760 they really did. Actually, there was a story in the 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:37.600 Morning News today they talked to the two daughters of 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.360 the architect who designed it. Oh yeah, the guy I 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.119 think passed away a couple of years ago. But they 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:49.280 talked about how well they built things. Not built the 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.520 same way anymore, are they? And they built it from 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:55.280 the inside out, so that structure was the first part 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.440 of it with all bunch of cement, and then they 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.720 built around it for the rest of the tower, so 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.880 it was more dynamite. Yes, right, there is. That's how 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.920 you build an NFL roster from the inside out. All 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.520 that's how I think. How about that for a segue. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.120 That's what I'm here for. I've been saving it up man, 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.359 four weeks. Oh, thank goodness you are back, because we 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.719 do have to talk about building this roster. And we'll 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.120 start things off by looking back at the NFL combine. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.800 There was plenty that went on over the past week. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.120 Jerry spoke to the media, Mike McCarthy had a press conference, 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.120 and then of course the actual drills in the combine 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.280 going on. World hit all three of those throughout the 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:33.920 course of the show. But let's start with the man 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.840 upstairs and talking about Jerry Jones. Jerry, of course met 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.120 with the local media in the bus in Indianapolis. That's 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.080 the first show that we've had for Talking Cowboys since 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.800 that interview took place. Was there anything of substance from 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.360 that interview or there were a lot of different things. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:51.960 I mean, it was almost an hour and a half 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:53.680 that he went on and on and on. They were 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:58.160 talking points, there were different subjects and topics put out there, 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:02.560 But was there anything specific that stuck out to you guys? Well, 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.160 for me, I think the Dak thing continues to dominate 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.240 the new cycle and it should. And I mean anytime 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:14.000 you compare the quarterback to your son, that is that 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.280 drew my attention and it reinforced the fact that they 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.440 they really value Dak is the future of this franchise 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.320 and they need to get something done. Will they get 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.080 something done by March twelfth? I don't know. I mean, 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.040 you could be pretty skeptical about that. The fact they 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:32.440 haven't talked in September, but that's that's the number one 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.480 thing going right now. Can they get this thing done? 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:38.080 How does that impact everything else? And the CBA as well, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.240 and the Cowboys are kind of operating in a tough 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.839 situation right now because they want to see how the 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:48.159 new language impacts the salary cap and some of their 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:52.760 financial flexibility going forward. Make I We'll see, but I 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.640 think they feel like they can get it done at 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.120 some point and get in franchise if they have to. Yeah. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.440 I think one of the things you took from what 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:04.480 Jerry said is it's kind of an old philosophy of 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.560 tech Shram that I think he taught Jerry when the 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:12.440 sale went through that what's good for the league is 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:16.479 good for the Cowboys, not if it's good for the Cowboys, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.120 then don't worry about the league. And his thoughts were, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.039 you know, I should have voted no for this, because 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:27.440 then if we didn't get this CBA ratified, I'd have 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.000 two tags to use instead of one if it gets passed. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.679 But he sided with what's best for the league long term, 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.120 not what's best for the Cowboys on the shirt term. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.080 I thought the other thing that stood out to me, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.599 and most of his comments had always seemed to come 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.480 back to this, we're building a team, and he kept 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.240 saying it. We're building a team, and whatever I do 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.040 with the Cowboys money is to make the Cowboys better. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.119 I'm not worried about saving a nickel or a dime. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.320 It's not my money. It's salary cap money. And so 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.159 I thought, that to me is what stuck out that. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.800 You know, it's almost like and I wrote about it 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.840 on Friday, going back to Jason Garrett's little theme of 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.480 the team, the team, the team, and that's the way 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.960 they're looking at this. What money I spend for Dak Prescott, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.320 maybe Amari Cooper, how does that affect the rest of 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.560 the team, Because I've got to put a team together 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:28.280 with twenty five free agents out there, impending free agents 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.440 out there. So that's what stuck out to me over 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:36.520 a minute and minute, a minute, hour and twenty one minutes, 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:40.120 I think, is what the what the video came out to. Yeah, 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.520 I'm telling you, I'm one of those people. Macul listened 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.880 to Jerry Jones speak for hours. Man. I love He's 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.960 a great storyteller, and I mean it is historian basically 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.960 talking about pre Cowboys, being an entrepreneur and then purchasing 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.680 the Cowboys in the thousands of deals that he's had 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.800 to make, you know, contracts that he's gone over and 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.640 just talking about the history of making those deals and 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.760 just understanding that you can't be in a rush to 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.920 get things done. He told a story about a guy 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.600 and he a guy that came to his church and 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.720 was talking about someone being in an accident and severing 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.720 and an artery. And you know, it's a difference between 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:17.560 a guy that severs an artery and runs into the 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.880 forest and bleeds out and dies of shock or a 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.800 guy that sits there and holds the womb and waits 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.320 on help. And so, I mean, it's a it's a story, 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.080 it's an analogy for for all time with just basically saying, look, 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.040 you gotta be patient and you just can't rush to things. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.960 But I just absolutely loved it, just going over the source, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.280 even the story about Emmy Smith's deal, when you know, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.000 he was thinking that he was gonna get Emma's deal 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:41.959 done and them and said, well, nope, just come pick 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.440 up my ring and I'm gonna you know, you know, 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.240 be waiting, you know, sitting this thing out, and Jerry says, man, 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.320 I've almost spent eight hours at a watering hole in 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.960 New York thinking that, you know, Lasseter was gonna be 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.040 my running back. And actually ten minutes later Emmitt called 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.800 and said, let's get this thing done. But we didn't 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.280 have cell phones back then. So I absolutely love the 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.480 interview well and kind of the interview. Really the big 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.800 point of the interview what he started off with was 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.120 that CBA negotiation. Both you, Rob and Mick have just 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.160 to hit on it already, but kind of go through 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.800 what that means, because right now, the way it stands, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.280 right you can use both a franchise and a transition 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.840 tag in the last year of the CBA, which is 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.320 that what we're in right now in twenty twenty with 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:29.719 the CBA that's in in existence at this point. But 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.959 in all the other years you get to use one one. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.120 And so if the new CBA has the same rule 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.560 in there, then you get to use one. And the 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:43.560 difference is the transition the franchise tag depending on what 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:47.000 level you use, you know, team. If you just use 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:54.079 the regular franchise tag, then the player can negotiate a 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.719 contract or an offer sheet from another team, and then 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.080 you have the right of first refusal and if you refuse, 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.560 then they owe you two first round picks in this year. 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.920 The transition tag, or I should say the exclusive tag 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.400 means they can't sign an offer sheet. Then they can 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:17.240 only play for you that costs six million dollars more 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.120 during the season. And then the transition tag basically is 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.880 the same thing as the regular franchise tag, with the 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.079 exception is all you get is right of first refusal 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:31.679 to get no compensation if you don't if you don't 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.440 match the offer sheet. So which is if you because 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.840 you have to match some monster deal that an offer 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.840 sheet that the player might sign. Absolutely, but it gives 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.680 you some level of protection. Now at least you have 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.080 an opportunity to say, okay, you go see what market 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.560 value is and then we'll see if we think we 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.319 can afford market value. But that talks to how delicate 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.600 the situation is. Because if you sign guys and you 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.000 believe that you have two tags and the deal, the 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.280 CBA deal is actually made, it's like oops, got to 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.960 tear up one, and the whole negotiation process starts all 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.520 over again. And he spoke to how delicate this is 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.520 because the Cowboys are not. This is an inopportune time 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.720 for the Cowboys to have have this situation with Dak 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.000 and Cooper both being on the table and Byron Jones. Yeah, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.520 it's not It's not ideal for Jerry Jones at all 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.120 at all because and you know, it sounds like the 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.400 reports are the NFL is trying to hustle to get 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.800 this thing in the NFLPA in a position to vote 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.960 on for the players. Can that happen in the next 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.320 nine days. We'll see, It might take another week or two, 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.640 and that could impact I don't know. I mean, I 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.560 guess they would always have the option to move things 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.839 back again if they want to, right, Yeah, and they could. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.040 They could do that to make things easier on teams, 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.400 or maybe we'll have a we'll have a Super Thursday, 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.160 because we could have a Super Thursday. But it does impact. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.079 You know, they've talked all along Dack's number one priority, 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.959 Mary's number two. And that was the other interesting thing 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.240 that stood out to me with Jerry was Byron Jones. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.120 I mean, he's basically was very matter of fact. It's 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.040 gonna be tough to get him resigned. I think they 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.320 could do it. I think they could fit all those 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.720 contracts underneath. But it reminds you. It's just a reminder 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.679 of when you finally have to pay a quarterback a 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.400 ton of money. You have to make concessions, you have 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.760 to make tough decisions, and it's gonna come down to 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.800 Byron Jones and he just may not be back. Well, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.240 somebody should come down to four guys in my book, yes, 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.920 because Robert Quinn's important. Like, if Robert Quinn's not here, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.760 who's taking a spot Probably a draftee Randy Gregory if 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:34.400 he comes back. Yeah, yeah, that's in the new cycle too. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.200 He wants to get reinstated and he should be able to. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.240 If a guy like Josh Josh Gordon can get back 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.840 in the league, then definitely Randy Gregory should be able to. 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.160 But make you alluded to that last a couple of 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.240 weeks ago about Byron Jones basically allowing him to go 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.400 out and test the market, and that's exactly what he's 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.280 gonna do. He's gonna see if there are any suitors 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:56.160 out there. And I think from from a fans standpoint, 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:01.320 it's always been very interesting the undervalue, the undervaluing of 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.760 Byron Jones at this point, because if his absence is 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.040 going to leave a hole in the defense. If we don't, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.680 if we don't get resigned him, then obviously we're looking 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.160 at the guys that we have on defense, which aren't 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.360 a lot of guys, and then we're looking to the 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.480 draft to potentially get a guy and hope that that 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.160 works out when you already have that on your team. See, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.440 and you've got to go through free agency before the draft. True, 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.880 so you don't know. You can't sit there and go, well, 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.280 now I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna draft a guy 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.520 because you don't know that's going to happen, right, you 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.400 don't know what you're gonna get. No, you don't, and 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:38.880 then you start reaching. So well, what they do, though, Mick, 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.040 what if they lose Byron Jones. What they normally do 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.440 is they try to give themselves some coverage. They try 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.839 to sign somebody, right I stand a veteran to get, 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.160 you know, as maybe a stop gap if they have to, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:51.600 and then see what they do in the draft. But 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.760 I'm with you, agmat like, I think if Byron Jones leaves, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.920 that's your number one need on your roster at that point, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.200 because immediately immediately. You also need bodies the same time. Bodies. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.560 What have Robert Quinn's nut there? Well, then let's take 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.000 your pick. It's one A, one B. Yeah that's my point. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.240 But but don't you think he makes a corner better 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.600 A good corner or a good defensive A good defensive 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.400 end led you in sacks, by the way, but you 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:22.120 have nobody behind him, no nobody, Right, Tyron Crawford might 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.360 get back, but he's not a three down defensive end. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.040 He's not going to be a pass rusher, right, And 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:33.480 then who else you're going to rely on? You got armstrong? Yeah, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.240 I mean, and the same thing at corner? Who Who's 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.800 who's the next guy? After the two that are here? 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.600 There's no other corners not to mention? Pass next year, 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:47.720 Cheeto's up. I believes you can look ahead that farther 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.040 down if you want to as well. But don't you 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.160 feel a little bit better from a financial standpoint? You 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.440 might have a better chance to get Quinn resigned than 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.800 Jones if he hits the market. Oh, I don't know. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.920 He made seven point nine million last year on a 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:03.440 one year deal. He's thirty years old, Okay, thirty years old. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.400 This is going to be his last contract. He ain't 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:11.120 sitting there and going, oh yeah, whatever, my last big chance. 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.960 I got to hit a home run. Eleven and a 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:18.560 half sacks by the way, and I believe I've figured 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.920 out that he and DeMarcus Lawrence over the last since 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.800 twenty sixteen on have the same amount of sacks. So 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.400 that's gonna be a He's got forty sacks in four years. 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.800 He's got a selling point to go off of, including 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.520 the fact that twenty nineteen was his best season since 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.400 twenty thirteen. Right now, calculated market values and this is 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.680 based off of spottrack dot com. Robert Quinn's at eleven 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.280 point eight million, Byron Jones at fourteen point two, So 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.000 it's not a ton of difference there. Now, if you 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:49.920 don't bring back Byron Jones, there's a bigger chance that 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.040 you could get a Robert Quinn back and maybe even 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.360 bring back a guy like Randall Cobb, who will be 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:58.080 just under seven million potentially coming back to Dallas, if 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.480 that's what Mike McCarthy and company wants. But brings up 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.600 the conversation of these tags again, franchise tag, transition tag. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.400 If the Cowboys used both of these isn't there a 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.960 chance and isn't there a clause that if the CBA 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.200 does not get done within the next nine days, and 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.680 it does get done right around that free agency period, 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.280 can they revoke attack. I read that immediately that they 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.240 could that they could rescind one. You know, he's right. 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:28.160 That's why in so, what's today the third? Yes? Correct? Yeah, 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:32.320 nine days, So you got fifteen days before free agency starts, right, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.000 Gotta get some guys signed. Yeah, get get the big 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.840 ones signed, and then you could tag a Quinn or 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.480 you could tag a Byron Jones if you want to 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.600 keep them on a one year deal. But if you 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.320 got four guys like that and you don't get any 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.560 of them signed before the tag expires on the twelve, 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.400 well you got you. That's why the priority has to 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.680 be getting back to a long term deal because all 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.440 of the rest of the dominos start to follow the exactly, 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.080 and so the brain trust has to when you speak 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.280 to the value of Quinn, obviously everybody knows what he's 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.200 done in the year that he's been with the Cowboys, 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.600 and you don't want to just let that production walk. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.920 If you're if you're evaluating players and so Mike McCarthy. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.520 That's one of the things. I'm sure that once he 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.800 got the job, that's what he started doing. He I mean, 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.760 because he didn't go to these guys directly. And how 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.679 do you feel about being a cowboy? You know, he 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.720 sits down and he looks at the at the tape 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.040 and everybody knows that the eye and the sky don't lie. 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:32.200 And Mike and Quinn has put that tape together to say, look, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.280 I am valued. And when you go back and I 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.879 think the one thing about Byron Jones has been even 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.879 with all his productivity, he didn't have the interceptions to 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:42.960 go with it. And so if he's going to test 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.960 the market and also test the market in the way 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.879 where he's one of the top five paid cornerbacks, that 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.720 I don't believe that just from just the way that 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.000 you know, the brain Trust has been talking about him, 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.720 I don't think that anyone values him as one of 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.520 the top five guys. Well, he's a fast any free 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.320 somebody else is gonna absolutely so, yeah, that must mean 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.280 he's pretty good. Yeah, And if you watch the tech, 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.520 I mean, he is by far the most consistent dB 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.760 they've had by far. He doesn't some of some of 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.280 his lack of takeaways or that he doesn't get thrown 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:19.320 at a lot. Um, But if they don't have him, 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.720 they don't have a consistent guy back there. I know 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.879 Mike Nolan, the new defensive coordinator, emphasizes takeaways, and so 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.960 that's interesting to me because Byron doesn't hasn't had them. 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.720 But as a steady guy back there, you're you're not 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.320 looking at the same type of depth chart him. Now 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.840 you say they don't throw with him. Now, We've had 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.320 guys in that played for the Cowboys like Dion Sanders 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.720 that no one would dare throw at d Now is 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:45.959 they're not throwing at Byron Jones because they're scared he's 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.159 gonna take it to the house, or as the deficiency 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.480 on the other side, that blaring that will take a 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.000 chance by exposing this bigger weakness. They went after Cheetoh 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.000 a lot last year, after him a lot last year. Um. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:58.960 But but I will say make to your point in 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.160 techman's point, yes, you gotta try to try to get 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.439 something done with Dak. I'm not sure how much movement 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.400 they can get. Stephen Jones always says all it takes 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.639 is a little bit of wiggle room in agreement and 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.640 then they can start hammering something out and it gets 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.919 done faster than you think. Dak Ra Amari try to 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:15.439 get one done here in the next week or so. 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:17.760 That's BOSSI crucial for that to be the case. And 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.160 Byron Jones you mentioned of being an interesting free agent. 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.119 It's also interesting to look at Cowboys first round picks 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:25.639 over the past decade. Since two thousand and eight, there 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.720 have been eleven first round picks. Only six of them 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.040 have gone on at any point in their career to 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.679 go play for other teams. Mike Jenkins, Felix Jones, Des Bryant, 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.760 Morris Clayborne, Taco Charlton, and Byron Jones would be the six. 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:40.680 We'll talk about Byron Jones and some of these other 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.040 free agents that potentially could come back to Dallas coming 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:45.760 up in our next segment, we're gonna go through what 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:49.240 Mike McCarthy said up in Indianapolis. We'll be back here 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.439 in just a moment. You're listening to Talking Cowboys here 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:55.240 on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I'm Jay Novachik, former tight 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.040 end for the Dallas Cowboys back in the day. How 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.159 was the guy who always got the tough yards, and 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:03.160 that's why I run with John Deer today. 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