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Speaker 1: This He's Talking Cowboys Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. No, your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Micky Spagnola, robbed Phillips, Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. It's

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Speaker 1: a cloudy Tuesday here from the s WBC Mortgage Studios

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Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. Once again, fifty fifty on

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Speaker 1: the opening this week as Mickey Spagnola is back. Heckma

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Speaker 1: Harrison is back. But guess who's back for the first

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Speaker 1: time in almost a month. Rob Phillips back at the

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Speaker 1: table for Talking Cowboys. Welcome Rob, thanks man, it's good

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Speaker 1: to be back. Good to be back. And some applause

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Speaker 1: it was, yes, some big applause for you. And he

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to Yeah, he doesn't want to push the button.

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Speaker 1: It's okay. But at the same time, happy things for

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Speaker 1: you and your family. We wish you the best in man,

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Speaker 1: how you feeling right now? No, ask him if he's sleeping. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how are you sleeping right now? I'm a little sleep deprived.

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Speaker 1: It's gone from she'll sleep seven hours. She's four months,

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Speaker 1: four weeks old today, she's a month old. Today, she

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Speaker 1: sleeps seven hours straight. Some nights. Some nights like last night,

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Speaker 1: not at all. Yeah, but it's fine because she's too

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Speaker 1: cute to get mad at. But I am happy to

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Speaker 1: be back, happy to be back. And uh, it's funny

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Speaker 1: the things that get you happy when you're a new parent,

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Speaker 1: like when they burp everything, Like it's like, man, I

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Speaker 1: accomplish something, you know, so why don't they are grumpy?

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Whole life changes. But it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be back. And a lot of things have kind of

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Speaker 1: come and gone since you've been gone. I mean the

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Speaker 1: NFL combine now in the rearview mirror, a TV broadcaster

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Speaker 1: now is being paid seventeen million dollars in a former

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Speaker 1: Cowboys quarterback at that, and Tony Romo and his new

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Speaker 1: contract with CBS and then making You wrote about it

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Speaker 1: a little bit in your mix shots this past week.

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Speaker 1: But the famed Leaning Tower of Dallas is coming gone.

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Speaker 1: It went yesterday you sat about it came tumbling down.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see how long it could last? Right,

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Speaker 1: what was do you know the amount of days that

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Speaker 1: it ended up lasting? I read it? Is it like twelve?

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Speaker 1: It's almost two weeks? Twelve, let's say twelve? The things

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Speaker 1: that we sensationalized these days, halfcial media. We love it

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Speaker 1: is the leaning Tower of Dallas. It's gonna say if

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Speaker 1: you're a tourist, if you're thinking about tourism in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: is that a comment on the things to do and

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Speaker 1: see in Dallas? If we're like, we got its shape, man,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a landmark in Dallas. Shape. The

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Speaker 1: amazing thing is so that the wrecking ball was hitting

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Speaker 1: it in the brick wood fall, little piece of cement

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Speaker 1: with fall, and then when it came tumbling down, it

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Speaker 1: got hit up top and the whole thing came down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it was like, well, why didn't that happen before

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Speaker 1: you find the sweet spot? I think they did that

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Speaker 1: by design. They knew all the marketing dollars, the T

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Speaker 1: shirts with I mean, the thing had his own Instagram,

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Speaker 1: it dead and Twitter as well, and it was it

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Speaker 1: was tweeting from the dead yesterday saying I'm a wreck

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Speaker 1: I'm Peter. Channel I think Channel eight had a live

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Speaker 1: camera on it the whole time. It was streaming on

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Speaker 1: their website so you could check in on at any

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Speaker 1: time you want it. It It was just to make sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's isn't it crazy, like you said, the things that

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Speaker 1: we sensationalize, and I mean that was a construction failure.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't supposed to be there. No, actually it was

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Speaker 1: a construction brilliant Who remember built it? Built it awfully? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they really did. Actually, there was a story in the

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Speaker 1: Morning News today they talked to the two daughters of

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Speaker 1: the architect who designed it. Oh yeah, the guy I

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Speaker 1: think passed away a couple of years ago. But they

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Speaker 1: talked about how well they built things. Not built the

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Speaker 1: same way anymore, are they? And they built it from

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Speaker 1: the inside out, so that structure was the first part

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Speaker 1: of it with all bunch of cement, and then they

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Speaker 1: built around it for the rest of the tower, so

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Speaker 1: it was more dynamite. Yes, right, there is. That's how

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Speaker 1: you build an NFL roster from the inside out. All

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Speaker 1: that's how I think. How about that for a segue.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for. I've been saving it up man,

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Speaker 1: four weeks. Oh, thank goodness you are back, because we

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Speaker 1: do have to talk about building this roster. And we'll

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Speaker 1: start things off by looking back at the NFL combine.

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Speaker 1: There was plenty that went on over the past week.

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Speaker 1: Jerry spoke to the media, Mike McCarthy had a press conference,

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Speaker 1: and then of course the actual drills in the combine

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Speaker 1: going on. World hit all three of those throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of the show. But let's start with the man

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Speaker 1: the first show that we've had for Talking Cowboys since

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Speaker 1: that interview took place. Was there anything of substance from

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Speaker 1: that interview or there were a lot of different things.

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Speaker 1: talking points, there were different subjects and topics put out there,

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Speaker 1: But was there anything specific that stuck out to you guys? Well,

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Speaker 1: for me, I think the Dak thing continues to dominate

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Speaker 1: the new cycle and it should. And I mean anytime

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Speaker 1: they really value Dak is the future of this franchise

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Speaker 1: and they need to get something done. Will they get

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Speaker 1: you could be pretty skeptical about that. The fact they

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Speaker 1: How does that impact everything else? And the CBA as well,

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Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are kind of operating in a tough

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Speaker 1: new language impacts the salary cap and some of their

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Speaker 1: financial flexibility going forward. Make I We'll see, but I

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Speaker 1: some point and get in franchise if they have to. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things you took from what

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Speaker 1: tech Shram that I think he taught Jerry when the

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Speaker 1: sale went through that what's good for the league is

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Speaker 1: good for the Cowboys, not if it's good for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: then don't worry about the league. And his thoughts were,

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Speaker 1: you know, I should have voted no for this, because

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Speaker 1: But he sided with what's best for the league long term,

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Speaker 1: not what's best for the Cowboys on the shirt term.

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Speaker 1: I thought the other thing that stood out to me,

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Speaker 1: and most of his comments had always seemed to come

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Speaker 1: saying it. We're building a team, and whatever I do

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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys money is to make the Cowboys better.

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about saving a nickel or a dime.

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Speaker 1: I thought, that to me is what stuck out that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's almost like and I wrote about it

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Speaker 1: the team, the team, the team, and that's the way

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Speaker 1: they're looking at this. What money I spend for Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: maybe Amari Cooper, how does that affect the rest of

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Speaker 1: I think, is what the what the video came out to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm one of those people. Macul listened

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Speaker 1: to Jerry Jones speak for hours. Man. I love He's

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Speaker 1: a great storyteller, and I mean it is historian basically

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Speaker 1: talking about pre Cowboys, being an entrepreneur and then purchasing

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Speaker 1: But I just absolutely loved it, just going over the source,

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Speaker 1: done and them and said, well, nope, just come pick

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Speaker 1: the regular franchise tag, then the player can negotiate a

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Speaker 1: then they owe you two first round picks in this year.

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Speaker 1: means they can't sign an offer sheet. Then they can

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Speaker 1: during the season. And then the transition tag basically is

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Speaker 1: to get no compensation if you don't if you don't

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Speaker 1: match the offer sheet. So which is if you because

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Speaker 1: you have to match some monster deal that an offer

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Speaker 1: sheet that the player might sign. Absolutely, but it gives

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Speaker 1: can afford market value. But that talks to how delicate

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Speaker 1: over again. And he spoke to how delicate this is

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Speaker 1: because the Cowboys are not. This is an inopportune time

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys to have have this situation with Dak

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Speaker 1: it's not It's not ideal for Jerry Jones at all

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Speaker 1: this thing in the NFLPA in a position to vote

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Speaker 1: and wanted to get your thoughts on this one. Some

427
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Speaker 1: of the things that stuck out to you throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of Mike McCarthy's press conference, Well, I will say this,

429
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Speaker 1: he said something that gave me a Hollylujah moment, guys,

430
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Speaker 1: and he said, if if the guy is good, is

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Speaker 1: good at football, he can play for me. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I finally we got a guy that is if he

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Speaker 1: could play, he could play for me. I like the

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Speaker 1: way that sound. And he's not looking for scheme guys,

435
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Speaker 1: He's looking for football players. And that's that's That was

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing that I took away from what he

437
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Speaker 1: was saying, and also just being being a part of

438
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Speaker 1: the whole drafting process and talking about giving complimenting Will

439
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Speaker 1: McClay on his job, and obviously everyone's talking analytics and

440
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: the job that the you know, the role that analytics

441
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Speaker 1: plays and drafting. You know, he and Ted Thompson were

442
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: not a matchmate in Heaven, So I think he's really

443
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Speaker 1: happy about bidding in a situation like this where he

444
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to take the heat for a good you know,

445
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: for a bad draft pick, but actually get the praise

446
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: when he makes a good one. See, I thought the

447
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Speaker 1: thing that resonated to me when they were asking him

448
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Speaker 1: about positions and who you want back, and he said,

449
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Speaker 1: my first goal is try to get as many of

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Speaker 1: the guys back as you can, meaning I'm not into

451
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Speaker 1: looking at all these free agents. Because I think people thought, well,

452
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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett stymied efforts to go get other free agents.

453
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Speaker 1: He wanted his own guys back. Well, that's what Mike

454
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Speaker 1: McCarthy wants, because you know who you have, you don't

455
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Speaker 1: know who you might get. And so his goal was

456
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Speaker 1: to try to resign him so that you know, we

457
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Speaker 1: were talking about the cornerback. Anthony Brown's going to be cheap, right.

458
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Speaker 1: He missed half the year, right, so I don't know

459
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Speaker 1: what I don't know what his market value is, right,

460
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Speaker 1: And he was a third corner that can be a starter,

461
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Speaker 1: and he proved himself last year. So I think I

462
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Speaker 1: think you know, they missed him, missed him a lot. Uh,

463
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Speaker 1: And so maybe you can get him on a one

464
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Speaker 1: year prove it deal and then at least you have

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Speaker 1: something at that cornerback spot. If you can't get Byron Jones,

466
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Speaker 1: and you leave Jordan Lewis where he belongs in the

467
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Speaker 1: slot and not starting on the outside, so that you

468
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Speaker 1: would have a placeholder there. And then you go into

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Speaker 1: the draft and go, oh, one of these corners lands

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Speaker 1: in my lap. Okay, I can take it now, and

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Speaker 1: I can have competition. That was the other thing that

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Speaker 1: McCarthy said, when if you're worried about UH draftings the

473
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Speaker 1: best player and you've already got good players at that position,

474
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Speaker 1: and he said, you can't have enough good football players.

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Speaker 1: I want a competitive roster as you can possibly have.

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Speaker 1: So say I don't know a wide receiver lands in

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Speaker 1: your lap at seventeen, and you say, well, I don't

478
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Speaker 1: need one. Well, okay, let's have one and let's have

479
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Speaker 1: some competition out there. Yeah, and I know the value there.

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Speaker 1: You guys know better than I do. But the value

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Speaker 1: of wide receiver looks really good in this draft. In

482
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Speaker 1: the draft, however, man, this defense needs a lot of help. Oh,

483
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Speaker 1: I know, a lot of help. But what if that

484
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Speaker 1: wide receiver is a ten times better player than the

485
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Speaker 1: corner ben I agree with you, but that seems almost

486
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Speaker 1: like a luxury pick. If you bring back Randall Cob well,

487
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Speaker 1: and this is this is a debate we're actually going

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Speaker 1: to have in the third segment as well, when we

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Speaker 1: go back through and look through some of those guys

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Speaker 1: specifically that weren't performing at the combine. But kind of

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Speaker 1: going with wide receiver here along with saying Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: said he wants to have the best players in the building.

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Speaker 1: He wants to have that, but he also said he

494
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Speaker 1: wants a lot of these veteran guys too. And there's

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Speaker 1: some veteran guys at the moment that are up in

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Speaker 1: the air in terms of the Dallas Cowboys, Jason Wit

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Speaker 1: and Randall Cobb and Sean Lemos notably, make me a

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Speaker 1: case for any of those guys to be back on

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Speaker 1: the roster. Sean Lee's a little bit of an easier case.

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Speaker 1: But what about a Randall Cobb and a Jason Witten,

501
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Speaker 1: both guys who were up in the air at the moment. Okay,

502
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Speaker 1: so if Cobb's not there, who's your third receiver? Probably

503
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Speaker 1: a drafted receiver. And what do drafted receivers do? Take

504
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: a year to develop? And we watched Gallup get better

505
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Speaker 1: to learn the slot. It takes some time. Well, and

506
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Speaker 1: I see, they don't have anybody that's going to step

507
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Speaker 1: into the slot right now. So now you're looking at

508
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Speaker 1: in the first three rounds drafting a wide receiver. Well,

509
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Speaker 1: there were a couple of guys this year that made

510
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Speaker 1: some impact at wide receiver. Deebo Samuel for San Francisco.

511
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Speaker 1: I went to the Super Bowl on Cowboys Rosco. I'm saying,

512
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Speaker 1: rookie's wide receivers in g right, we'll go who else? Well,

513
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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel is the first one. DK Metcalf from Seattle

514
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Speaker 1: made some impacts as a rookie. I mean, there are

515
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Speaker 1: guys out there that have done that. Not not the

516
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Speaker 1: high percentage of them though, No, you're right. But when

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Speaker 1: you say make a case for a guy Randall Cobb,

518
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Speaker 1: obviously the numbers were not off the charts, but at

519
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Speaker 1: the same time, the intangibles, the leadership quality, the ball

520
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: to the if he fit right in on this team,

521
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Speaker 1: and guys had nothing but high praise for Randall Cobb

522
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Speaker 1: in his leadership ability. And then when you talk about

523
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Speaker 1: a coach like his former coach coming in in the

524
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: offensive system, we don't know. Look how this is gonna

525
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Speaker 1: look as far as from a play calling standpoint, and

526
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Speaker 1: so even from that, Randall Cobb is going to be

527
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Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna at least familiarize guys with what

528
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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's system is going to be and will be

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Speaker 1: on McCarthy's side. I think it's every new coach need

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Speaker 1: somebody in the locker room that will be on the

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Speaker 1: coach's side. If you look at things that have happened previously,

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Speaker 1: you know, look at what Bill did when he first

533
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Speaker 1: got here. Guys brought in a bunch of guys that

534
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Speaker 1: were veteran guys in free agency because he wanted some

535
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: of his guys in that locker room right saying, hey,

536
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Speaker 1: this guy knows what he's doing, right, he needed to

537
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Speaker 1: follow him. He took the words out of my mouth.

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Speaker 1: And Joe Thomas could be another one too. Yeah, the

539
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Speaker 1: guy that's aid for him, started games for him. That

540
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: linebacker position so many question marks. When he's healthy, he's

541
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Speaker 1: pretty good. And so that's the guy that could bring

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Speaker 1: back to I think Cobb's an easy sell for what

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00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: Mickey just said, when Heckman just said, I think he's

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Speaker 1: an easy sell to come back if he wants to

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Speaker 1: come back. If you know, we'll see if he wants

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Speaker 1: to test the market. But that's the only coach he's

547
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Speaker 1: ever had. And that's just why, that's why you can't

548
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Speaker 1: sit there and say, Okay, Dak Prescott, here's forty million

549
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: dollars a year. Because you need these guys, absolutely need

550
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Speaker 1: Joe thomas Is on your team. You need Randall Cobbs

551
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Speaker 1: on your team. You've got to have a team. You

552
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: can't have four stars and then forty nine just other dudes, right,

553
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: You got to have a team, and those guys are important.

554
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: We didn't bring up MALIEK. Collins. Mallie Collins needs to

555
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Speaker 1: come back because you don't have anybody else at that

556
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Speaker 1: because now you may get it in the draft, but

557
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that. So you know, by time the

558
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: draft ends or starts, free agency's basically over. Everybody's kind

559
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: of picked over everything that they want and you're gonna

560
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: have leftovers there. So you know who's your three technique

561
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle. If you're in a four to three, if MALIEK.

562
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Speaker 1: Collins and I think Jeff he's another guy, you could resign,

563
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Speaker 1: try to resign him. And then if you want to

564
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: bring in some competition at safety in the draft, whatever

565
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: you want to do. That's an option too. But here's

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Speaker 1: the other part that I wanted to say. When you

567
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Speaker 1: look at the coach. Coach Jerry Jones spoke about this

568
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Speaker 1: in his pressor that he was really impressed how Mike

569
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Speaker 1: McCarthy put the staff together. And when you look around

570
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: the NFL and you talk about parcels bringing in his guys,

571
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: you gotta know that even for coach Mike Nolan being

572
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Speaker 1: in New Orleans, the free agents that they have and

573
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Speaker 1: Tom Sula being in for the Redskins, the free agents

574
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Speaker 1: that they have, guys that they can bring in and

575
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Speaker 1: implement and be on their side. So there are a

576
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Speaker 1: number of names that you know, like Miles Humphrey, Caleb Brantley.

577
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: Even for Mike Nolan, man Tito, He's a household name.

578
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: People know who he is. He's been pretty serviceable as

579
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Speaker 1: a linebacker in New Orleans. But also I think a

580
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: lot needs to be made about having Al Harris on

581
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Speaker 1: this staff because he is a proven guy that guys,

582
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Speaker 1: he has the reputation, but also the fact that he

583
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Speaker 1: has probably just calapulted himself as a really good coach

584
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Speaker 1: dB coach and I believe and I well, I'm hoping

585
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: that these guys will be receptive to him being someone

586
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: that has proven himself and being in Kansas City. And

587
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: I just want to bring this up. Maybe this is

588
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: a name that no one has thought about. He's been

589
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: tied to the Cowboys. But Eric Berry, guy that's been

590
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Speaker 1: out of the league. You may know more about this

591
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: than me. But at the same time, Eric Berry is

592
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: a guy that's been out of the league, has been

593
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Speaker 1: all wealth. You know, fault cancer, had some injuries to

594
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: his achilles, but still he's still out there on the

595
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Speaker 1: market and still young enough that he has should have

596
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Speaker 1: some juice in there in the tank. He's got a

597
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: great story fighting back from kancer. I know they brought

598
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Speaker 1: him in for a visit and a physical and the

599
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: health thing, the medical because he's beyond what he dealt

600
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Speaker 1: with off the field with the cancer issue. He's had

601
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: so many injuries to make that I was a cursory visit,

602
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: like a look, see, they just did a favor. I think, well,

603
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys are bringing a man boy, you better

604
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: watch old. They're going to sign him, or did a

605
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: favor to his agent. He's he's not young, isn't he

606
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: like thirty? I think he's in his third low thirties,

607
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: and he's had injury history. But Eric, I mean Eric

608
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: Weddle just just retired at thirty five and he was

609
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: still playing at the top level. But he hadn't been

610
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: fighting injuries the way this guy's been fighting. But still,

611
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Speaker 1: I mean, even being in the situation where we have

612
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: to we have holes to feel right, Yes, and so

613
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Speaker 1: how much does he want to play for? Well, that's

614
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: still a question mark. That probably wasn't a whole lot that. Oh,

615
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Speaker 1: I don't know when you're there when when when you're

616
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: close to retiring, money keeps you playing right, So let's

617
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: just say glass halfl that he wants to get back

618
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Speaker 1: in the NFL and he has something in his tank

619
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Speaker 1: that that we could use. Can he still play? We're

620
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Speaker 1: gonna find out here pretty soon. Well I can't. I

621
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Speaker 1: can't such a risk though I only got so many

622
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: salary cap dollars and they can't be taken chances. I

623
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: think if they had interest, they would have done it

624
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Speaker 1: last year and they brought him in and they didn't

625
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: do it. But there's no question safety. They need to

626
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: do something to cover themselves because it's an option in

627
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: the draft. But you don't want to. You know, they

628
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: try to fill as many holes as they can so

629
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Speaker 1: they're not reaching when they get there. That's what they

630
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: always try to do. But mick back to something you

631
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: said earlier about Jason. I don't think people feel like

632
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: Garrett hamstrung them in free agency. This is a Stephen

633
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: Jones in a front office decision that they try to

634
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: bring back their guys because they don't. They feel like

635
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 1: what's out there is out there for a reason, and

636
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: they have a better knowledge of their own guys and

637
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: trust in their own guy. But you know what the

638
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: fan reaction is the free agency. The Cowboys aren't doing

639
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Speaker 1: anything even though they resigned their own guys. It's like

640
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: they didn't do anything, Like what did you do to

641
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: get better? They should go get somebody else. They got

642
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: their own guys. They wait till the second wave, right. Yeah,

643
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: But that and I think people are thinking, okay, on

644
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: a new head coach, that's gonna change. Well, no, what

645
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: he's said now with twenty five year old want as

646
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: many as my own guys back. Yeah, they need to.

647
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: They've got to fill out. To Kyle's point, they got

648
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: to fill out a roster. You gotta build a team,

649
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: you gotta have bodies in the building. Yeah, well, the defense,

650
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: the defenses, there's so much turnover there. And when you

651
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: talk about free agency and the guys that we haven't

652
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: signed like a honey Badger. Okay. And so I'm not,

653
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, promoting one guy over another. I just know

654
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: that we have to fill it in holes. Because let's

655
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: say Jeff he has value for another team, Yeah, you know,

656
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: because he is a serviceable, serviceable veteran that has proven

657
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: himself and the Cowboys can't bring him back. Same with

658
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. What if there's a market for him and

659
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: we just can't say, oh, he's gonna come back to

660
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: us at some point. With the free agents that we

661
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: have on defense, this thing may completely look like a

662
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: different whole cast of characters. Yeah, if you can't afford

663
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown back, then you got problems. Yeah, that's a

664
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: little bit of an issue. Right if they say, if

665
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: some teams paying Anthony Brown so much money that you

666
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: can't afford it, then what am I getting that's next?

667
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: Behind Anthony Brown? You know, I mean I think he's

668
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: a good player. He's not great, but he's good. A

669
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: market for him, but well, then what I'm saying though, then,

670
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: just like there was a market for Anthony Hitchins going

671
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: somewhere else, rightly Wilson, But then who do you get

672
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: behind Anthony Hitchins. Whatever you're going to sign, somebody else's

673
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be as good as Anthony Hitchins. Might not

674
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: be as good as Anthony Brown if somebody valued him

675
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: at that amount of money. So instead of Anthony Hitchins,

676
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: you had Joe Thomas exactly. Yeah, I think Joe's a player, right,

677
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: but it's not as good. So what I'm saying is, yeah,

678
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to go out there and it's just

679
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, can you resign Darren Thompson? You know, he

680
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: was a serviceable backup at safety, can play special teams

681
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: and and that's definitely what we're gonna need, a special

682
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: teams bodies. Yep. Yeah. A couple of guys in that

683
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: that realm and you you kind of brickers, yeah yeah,

684
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: under a kicker. The both were throwing bath on the streets.

685
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: Snappers didn't think. So he's a free agent, so you're

686
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to spend money to sign him to get

687
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: him back, and who knows, well how they evaluate him,

688
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: you know, they may think, because now you got a

689
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: new special teams coach, what does he value and a

690
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: kicker Chris Jones? Is he healthy? You know he's got

691
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: to come back from a back injury from a sports hernia. Uh,

692
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: neither one of him. He didn't have surgery. So now okay,

693
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: well is he all right? Is that what you know

694
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: Fossil wants? Or does he want a different type of punter?

695
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: Does he like the deep snapper or do you have

696
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: to go out and get a different deep snapper? You know,

697
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: that whole operation could look different when you think about

698
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: the kicker last year for the Rams, Greg's Airline. He's

699
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: a free agent as well, one of the better kickers

700
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: in the league. Yea, but he didn't have a good year.

701
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: He didn't have a good year. Nick doesn't like anybody

702
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: is of the opinion if you're out there, there's a

703
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: reason why you're out there, and it's a certain degree

704
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: that's true. But Ruscott's not going to be out there right, No,

705
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna make it sure. Yeah, And so you know

706
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: for for Zerline, I was told he just didn't have

707
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: a very good year. And remember Fossil had him right,

708
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, But how many kickers around the league did

709
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: have good years. That was the reason why they couldn't

710
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: find a guy, And that's why they hung on to

711
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: Maher as long as they did well, because you know

712
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: now they didn't do it quick enough. They should have.

713
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: They should have they found they found a guy that

714
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: made every kick between forty and forty nine yards. To me,

715
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: that's what we need. I'd bring him back on the competition. Okay,

716
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: great that I had a sixty three yard but the

717
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: guy couldn't. He only made one of nine kicks between

718
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: forty and forty nine. When you also got to think

719
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: about the timing of when they tried to go out

720
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: and get a kicker. There nobody on the market except

721
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: for Kai four bath, and they brought in Kai four bath.

722
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: It was that or Nick Rose, the former Highland Park product,

723
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: and there was really nobody to go with there. Well,

724
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why they hung on to

725
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: Brett Maher. It's a completely different list of kickers available.

726
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: The guy with the running gaids ain't bad. He knew

727
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: his name. He makes his kicks. I think it's mcguinnis.

728
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: You've been doing some scouting over there. I went to

729
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: the game Sunday. Yeah, yeah, Douglas and I went to

730
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: the game fifty yard line, eighteen rows up. Were you

731
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: on the far side where it's like basically left field

732
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: when the Rangers played there? Are you on the other side,

733
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: stands side, but they have far side, They've got portable bleachers,

734
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: so you're right there on the sideline. It was good, interesting,

735
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: except for the quarterback had a couple issues there. Couple yeah,

736
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: multiple three interceptions in the first quarter and then a

737
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: fumble that was recovered for a touchdown. So we're not

738
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: looking at Landry Jones as the backup quarterback this year.

739
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to be happening. I wanted to

740
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: be the ultimate fan. In the fourth quarter when he

741
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: was still struggling and he wouldn't throw the ball down

742
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: the field, I told Douglas we should start channing. We

743
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: want Phillips. Wow, I mean that's what a fan would do, right.

744
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: You didn't bring in the backup? Yeah? Oh man talking

745
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: renegades here on Tuesday after Hey, you know what, they

746
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: had eighteen thousand, three hundred and thirty two, So without

747
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: Douglas it would have been three hundred and thirty it is,

748
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: so we made it thirty two. Good for you contributing.

749
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: We even stood up when the ball got down to

750
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: the two yard line with a minute to go and

751
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: they were down seven. Then they picked it off. It

752
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: was a and here I could be I could be

753
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: the come on, why didn't you hand the ball off?

754
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: You were two yards away and you had two timeout.

755
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: Oh that's a that's a big sign that I need

756
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: to move on to. Tried to throw a smokescreen and

757
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: it goes off the guy's hands and the linebacker makes

758
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: a diving interception two inches off the ground. It was

759
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: a magnificent play, but it was heartbreaking for Renegades fans

760
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: out there. But that's it for talking XFL in terms

761
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: of talking Cowboys today. But there are some other guys

762
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,640
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763
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,520
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764
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: there were some drills that were run. We'll talk about

765
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: the NFL combines, dive into who the Cowboys could look

766
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Speaker 1: have been an all timer. That was good, well done,

821
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: make you it wasn't like a bench person. Okay. Oh gosh. Well,

822
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Speaker 1: moving on from that we go. I don't even know

823
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Speaker 1: how to follow it. I don't either. You're in charge

824
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Speaker 1: of gracious. Okay. Let's go back to the NFL Combine,

825
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Speaker 1: and this time talk about non cowboys who were in

826
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: the spotlight. Of course, drills running Thursday through Sunday. Things

827
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: started off with the wide receivers quarterbacks and tight ends

828
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: on that Thursday and worked their way through the position

829
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: groups as the weekend went along. But that Thursday was

830
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: an opportunity to look at a couple of guys who

831
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: had had the spotlight on them throughout the course of

832
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: the draft process. Of course, you can listen to the

833
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: draft show on Thursdays here, but I don't want to

834
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: get too far into specifics of these players. But positional wise,

835
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have those needs on defense that we talked

836
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: about in the last segment. They have plenty of ways

837
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: they could go, whether it's secondary defensive line. But man,

838
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: this wide receiver class is highly intriguing. Can the Cowboys

839
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: justify taking a first round pick and using it on

840
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: a wide out if he's better than anything else left there?

841
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: You think, best player available? No matter what you think,

842
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen for the first time? And how long? Here? Oh?

843
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: The best player available discussion? The VPA to me, BPA

844
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: is always got an asterisk next to it. It has

845
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: to You can't just operate solely on that. That being said,

846
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: the value, if the value is there, the value is there.

847
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I saw Daniel Jeremiah's post combine mock and I think

848
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: he mocked Judy. He did from Alabama to the Cowboys seventeen,

849
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: and his reasoning was, assuming Amari Cooper's gone. Now, I

850
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: don't think you can assume that at all. They're gonna

851
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: try to deal done with him. But if that were

852
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: to happen, then yeah, I would. I'm all of a sudden,

853
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: now my eyes shift a wide receiver and I'm on

854
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: board with it. Okay, So it would have to be

855
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: a generationally changing wide receiver. He'd have to be Megatron.

856
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna he's gonna transcend the game. That's

857
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: the only way I see the Cowboys doing that. I know,

858
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: best player available is the Mantra. But still, I mean,

859
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: you have we've talked about the needs that you have

860
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: on defense, and there are enough guys standing there looking

861
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: you in the face. And look, look, I watched the

862
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: draft with no preconceived notions. He's just looking for the

863
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: best guys and saying, you know what, guys are going

864
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: to be off the charts guys. That got me my attention.

865
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: Denzel Mims from Baylor. I thought his numbers were amazing.

866
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: What he four three forty bench press, vertical broad jump,

867
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: all of those were great, but you know you Isaiah Simmons.

868
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: That was another guy, the kid from Clemson. Oh my god,

869
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: this world athlete ye six six four two thirty eight amazing.

870
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: He'll be gone by number five, yeah, if not earlier.

871
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: That's the thing with him is the way that he

872
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: performed in the combine. They just locked up the fact

873
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: that he's not going to be eating anywhere close to seventeen.

874
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: And Denzel Mims is a guy you could get laid.

875
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: So if we go back to last year and Rob

876
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: knows this and they got t heard of me hearing it,

877
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: guy lasting to the second round, Deebo Samuel, It's like, well,

878
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: we don't need Deebo Samuel. Well, yeah, you do in

879
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: the second round, and he proved it. I thought about

880
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: you watching him in the playoffs every time I saw

881
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: make a players mixed guy six my man debo. I

882
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: watched him whip Missouri three years in a row. I

883
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: didn't need to see anything else. Just turn the combine.

884
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: I don't care about the Pro Day. This guy could

885
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: play football and he would do something for you, even

886
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: if it was just returning kicks. And it was Ceedee

887
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: Lamb that was mocked to the Cowboys in DJ's bladist

888
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: man and his stock has gone up Ceedee Lamb. I

889
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: mean not that he came in, you know, undervalued or

890
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: people didn't think that he would be a baller, but

891
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: still I mean Ceedee Lamb to me is you know

892
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: all of these guys that were talking about top fifteen,

893
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: they all have the tape to match it, right, This

894
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: is not just an anomaly. They show it up that

895
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: the numbers and now all of a sudden, you know

896
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: these guys are Tony Mandridge of the draft. It's not

897
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: like that. But even when I look at Ceedee Lamb,

898
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't believe that he went. You know, the guys

899
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: that he faced in the Big twelve were not potential

900
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: Thorpe Award winners. And so I mean not to take

901
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: that anything away from him, but when I look at

902
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: guys like Judy and even rugs Us, just the competition level,

903
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: there is something that I'm more adamant about by looking

904
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: at it and saying, look this guy, he competed at

905
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: the highest level. Mickey, do you have a guy in

906
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: the Shoe's draft yet, Ceedee Lamb. You think it is

907
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: CD Lamb there it is just throw stuff. I think

908
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: the guy can play. He can't play. I don't think

909
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: you can play. I don't care who covers him. They

910
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: can't catch him. And he can catch everything in different positions.

911
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: And he can play inside, he can play outside, he

912
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: can be physical, he can be Deebo. Samuel Kyler Murray

913
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: certainly wants him. Of course he does. Yeah, right, he

914
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: needs them. Yeah, well he needs those yeah absolutely, yeah,

915
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: of course. I mean but even if you get so

916
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 1: so Mick not My point was going to be, Okay,

917
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: I'm at seventeen and the next two best players are

918
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb or some safety. Yes, you're taking the CD Lamb.

919
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: How much is he playing as a rookie? How much

920
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: is the safety going to affect the game? He might

921
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: start because gees it's a different defense now he might start.

922
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: It might be a different he's going to change the defense.

923
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: But you got a Mari, you have Gallop. I think

924
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: I have a ma Let's just say you have a

925
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: mar okay, and I got Gallup? And did I get

926
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: cop you get cop to Wow, you didn't. Well you

927
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If you got both those said,

928
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: he wants competitions, Okay, okay, okay, So that's my point

929
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,959
Speaker 1: if they're all back, you can't do it. You can't.

930
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: I can't think you can do it a value pick.

931
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: And maybe my opinion is is Jay did buy the

932
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: number of unrestricted free agents I see on defense right now.

933
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: That'll change, They'll get some of these guys back. I

934
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: get that they'll add some guys before the draft. But

935
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: if I'm thinking about what hurt this team the most,

936
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: the most inconsistent portion of the team last year, it

937
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: was the defensive side of the ball. I understand they

938
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: need playmakers. I understand, so you better try to find

939
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: one as early as you can. And am I going

940
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: to find a defensive tackle or defensive end? Ye at seventeen?

941
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: You could lack either way. Yeah, I mean we're just

942
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: talking about it. Is there's epiness. Is there a guy

943
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: that can play the five? A guy that could be

944
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: and we think that right? But what if they're not?

945
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: It's true, that's the post as possible. I mean, that's

946
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: kind of what it is. It's a big mystery box,

947
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, do you want the mystery boxer?

948
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: Do you want what you had previously? The mystery box

949
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: could turn into be something extremely special, whereas if it's not,

950
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: then you're kind of stuck in a hole there. Well

951
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: that's why am I looked at something dream special ceedee

952
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: lamb oh lamb And so you put him in the slot.

953
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: There is that where you're for a guy like that,

954
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: you would Okay, I'll tell you what. I was watching

955
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: the draft and watching these wide receivers run. Everyone is

956
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: four three four four head burners, and you know, Michael,

957
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know this guy's I mean they're blazing,

958
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: and Michael Irvin just kind of kind of positive, you know,

959
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: just brings up He's like, you know what, there are

960
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys with gold jackets that ran a

961
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: four three four four. You know I didn't hear that. Yeah,

962
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: yeah he said it. Yeah, And I mean he brings

963
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: up a good point. I mean that's leaving out bullet

964
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Bob Hayes and also Randy Moss who ran sub uh

965
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: and they weren't even clocking when bullet Bob was was

966
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: was in the league. But you just got to know

967
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: that he ran a four two easily. Well all I

968
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: know is he ran a ten whatever he want. So yeah,

969
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: so either way, I mean, so all of those things

970
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: and as excited as as we are getting about the

971
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers. There's a lot of it goes into can

972
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: a guy fit a system and he's gonna is he

973
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy that's not a one trick pony

974
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: because of his speed. But also at the wide receiver,

975
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: anyone that we get in those third and fourth rounds,

976
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: even these guys that have to they're gonna have to

977
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: play special teams as well, and with all the deficiencies

978
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: that you have. If I don't see Ceedee Lamb playing

979
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: special teams. Now, if we lose some of those top,

980
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, top tier guys, then yeah, maybe that'll make sense.

981
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: But as deep as this wide receiver classes, you can

982
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: get more for less, and even with that, you could

983
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: trade back if somebody wants that, you know, and the

984
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys at proven in their history, says that they're willing

985
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: to do that, especially if they don't want to, you know,

986
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: reach on a guy. Well, and with wide receiver being

987
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: a topic of conversation, it also leads us to look

988
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: at tight end as well. If Jason Witten's not returning

989
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: as Blake Jarwin and uh, I'm blanking on Sholts, but

990
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: those two guys are those gonna beat your tight ends

991
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: moving forward, or do you want to look at some

992
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: guys that were impressive and athletic. I mean, hey, Missouri's

993
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: Golberto oham Is I guess how you say his name,

994
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: que Bonham or whatever. Alberto Alberto went up and went

995
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: four four nine in the forty, which is really impression.

996
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: Some of the better tight ends you talk about some

997
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: of the lack of success for wide receivers running good forties.

998
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey had a four to five and I think

999
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: George Kittle had right under a four to six in

1000
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: terms of his forties as well. So there's some fast

1001
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: tight ends out there, And is that somebody something that

1002
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys should look for moving forward? Well, they need

1003
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: another tight end. Yeah, I believe they would have drafted

1004
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: one high if Witten hadn't come back last year, I think,

1005
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: and from what I was told last high pretty early

1006
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: in the draft, I mean, I think they would have

1007
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: They probably would have need to day, yeah, potentially if

1008
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: it were there, value was there, But having Witten back

1009
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: last year allowed them to kick the can down the

1010
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: road a little bit, get a better look at Jarwin,

1011
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: and they do love Jarwin and he's going to be

1012
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: part of their plans going forward. I think that's a

1013
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: position maybe where you can cover yourself in free agency too.

1014
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: Maybe you go, if Witten's back, you go try to

1015
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: find another veteran to help you out. He run, Yeah,

1016
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: a guy, let's play. He brought that up a couple

1017
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, that one. But you got to open

1018
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: up some more snaps. Why didn't you show me not

1019
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: to bring up Noah Brown I've been We'll talk about

1020
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: that later. But Chase Claypool from Notre Dame. Yeah, I

1021
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: mean he's listened as a wide receiver, but he could

1022
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: fit in a tight end. And he's a guy that

1023
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: really reminds me of Jamichael Finley, a guy that played

1024
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: for Green Bay went round. I mean, he's probably a

1025
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: third round, fourth rown guy. Maybe there. You're okay with that.

1026
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: We need somebody that can block. Also, by the way

1027
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: you do, he's physical, growin can do what those guys do. Now,

1028
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: do you have somebody that can do Darwin can block?

1029
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that you look at him as a

1030
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: full time blocker, Okay, but but I don't think he

1031
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: can't feel Oh gosh, does run those Witten routes. That's

1032
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: what he wants don't. You don't you daydreaming in the

1033
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: shower about this up. I love Dez? Yeah, you want, though,

1034
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I'd be surprised. I'd have to see them

1035
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: make that decision to bring him back. I don't. I don't.

1036
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: He's not a tight end. He's not a block tight end.

1037
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 1: That's not That's never been his role. I don't see

1038
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: that role changing now. Um. Yeah, And Dez's numbers his

1039
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: last year here in Dallas was familiar with what Randall

1040
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: Cobb did last year, and so those numbers are equal.

1041
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: So I don't. I think you already have that on

1042
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: your roster, so you don't have to reach on something

1043
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: like that. And again, if Dez is on the roster,

1044
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: he has to play special teams as well. That's not

1045
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: gonna happen because we have so many holes to feel. Yeah,

1046
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: that's one of the big questions that Jerry has asked

1047
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: this year throughout the draft processes. Hey, does he played

1048
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: special teams? That's what I think one of the big

1049
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: priorities for the scouting and coaching staff is looking at

1050
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: a guy if they're going to pick him, if he's

1051
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: an offensive player, does he does he return kicks? Is

1052
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: he good at that, has he done it before and

1053
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: has he been successful? But talking about Dez Bryant, I mean,

1054
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned it and you alluded to it a minute ago.

1055
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: The comment that Jerry made in Indianapolis was I've been

1056
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: thinking about it a lot, but he hasn't also talked

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00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: to Des Bryant. Do you hold any kind of candle

1058
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: to that, saying maybe that's a little bit of a

1059
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: just a toss throwing potatoes at the wall, trying to

1060
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: get it the stick Dez Bryan Bryan Jerry's comment about it,

1061
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: but a little bit of both was was Jerry just

1062
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: blowing smoke to the media saying we're looking and interested

1063
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: at maybe bringing back Des Brian or something that's legitimate.

1064
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he said it that way, though he

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00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: said he'd been thinking about it. He said he'd been

1066
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: thinking about it in the shower. He did say that,

1067
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: not at his Jack Black dot com, not at his desk, right, correct,

1068
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: big difference, which was my point when I said earlier,

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00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: don't we all daydream in the shower? Oh if des

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00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: could come back and be the Dez Bryant, Oh yeah,

1071
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: that would be great. I don't think he's thinking that

1072
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: and I think that's disrespect to Daz in the job

1073
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: that he's done while you know, being a cowboy. I mean, look,

1074
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: no one loves Daz more than me. It's first four years.

1075
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Daz is probably is as explosive as a

1076
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: receiver we've seen in the NFL, just making a splash,

1077
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: tremendous career. Yeah, and so it just didn't end well.

1078
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: And then and even talking to Mike McCarthy or no,

1079
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: when when Jay was saying about how contentiously how it ended,

1080
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, and how Daz was, you know, not happy

1081
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: with the leadership here going out that, you know and

1082
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: really giving him a clean slate and saying, hey, I

1083
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: forgive him for that. You know. I think it was

1084
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: just more of a play to the media about Daz

1085
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: because there's so many other holes that need to be filled,

1086
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: and there's so many wide receivers in this draft. Would

1087
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: be a different thing if that, if this was a

1088
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: talentless draft pool. Yeah, and you look at the positions

1089
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: of need when it comes to tight end wide receiver,

1090
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: they're kind of on that backburn or at least from

1091
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: the outside looking in at this very moment, defense is

1092
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: the priority. But what about backup quarterback too. I mean

1093
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: there were some quarterbacks that went out and threw the

1094
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: ball pretty well out in Indie. Is Cooper rushed this

1095
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: guy moving forward to be the backup quarterback of the Cowboy.

1096
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: You know, a guy. If I can get a guy

1097
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: in the fifth, sixth, seventh round, I got no problems

1098
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: bringing him in. I think you bring Rush back. I

1099
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: think they will, But yeah, they could bring in some competition.

1100
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: He restricted. Yeah, they'll just get all tender him and

1101
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: tender that's the original draft choice, which is nothing yep,

1102
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: which means it's the lowest restricted tender, and if somebody

1103
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: else signs him to an offer sheet, you don't get

1104
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: anything back. But yeah, I think they want him back.

1105
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: They've they've they've spent time developing him. So but you

1106
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: can bring in a third quarterback. The only other guy

1107
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: is Clayton Thorson, who's out there working out by the

1108
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: way to day. Yeah, he was out there on the field.

1109
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: But you talk about them developing a guy, this is

1110
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: completely different coaching staff. Is Mike McCarthy going to feel

1111
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: the same way, Well, if they offer him a restricted

1112
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: a tender, they must, Yeah, right, it's a good way

1113
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: to to take up a cheap roster roster spot kind

1114
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: of what you're saying, take him to camp season and

1115
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: let him compete with whoever else they bring in. Because

1116
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: even if you drafted, well, I mean, how high do

1117
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: you want to draft a quarterback, they would have to

1118
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: be late, like you said, day three And so yeah,

1119
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: is that guy gonna be so good that you're gonna

1120
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: say if Dak Prescott goes down in the first game,

1121
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: he's my guy? Probably not. It's why Cooper rushing here

1122
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: and that guy would be Are you confident saying that

1123
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: about Cooper rush? Though? Well, unless there's a veteran out

1124
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: there that I want to go get, And I'd be

1125
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: interesting to see if maybe they McCarthy would prefer that

1126
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: because they've gone the younger route. They tried Castle, and

1127
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: they tried Weedon and they tried those guys and none

1128
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: of that worked. None that worked, and so they've been

1129
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: trying the developmental route. So maybe that changes. Maybe Mike's

1130
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: more comfortable with a veteran guy too. See, there's gonna

1131
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: be a lot of quarterback movement here in the next

1132
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: couple of weeks of it, and there might be somebody

1133
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: without a chair to sit when the music stops. Yeah,

1134
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about Dak Dak being so durable

1135
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: and not missing the game so far, he's given, you know,

1136
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: giving us that luxury to say, you know when not

1137
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: as concerned about the backup quarterback and say some other franchises.

1138
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: But at some point you get stuck with your hand

1139
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: in the cookie jar. And so with developing this guy,

1140
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: you can't just give up on something that you've been

1141
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: spending a whole heck of a lot of time trying

1142
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: to develop. And so the only time we've ever gotten

1143
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: a chance to see him play was in the preseason, right,

1144
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: and so we don't know a whole lot about him.

1145
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: But at this point we just we gotta believe that

1146
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: he knows a playbook and he's at least serviceable at

1147
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: this point if he needs to come in for some

1148
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: nine one one time. Yeah, you never know, one of

1149
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 1: those veterans could be sitting there and they go, Okay,

1150
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: I'll take a one year deal just to kind of

1151
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: keep my name in the game. Somebody's gonna not have

1152
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: a job. Yeah, But it's gonna depend on price, because

1153
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: when you're paying Dak, whatever you're gonna pay him, it's

1154
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot. You can't there's certain luxury depth positions.

1155
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: You can't spend the same type of money that you

1156
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: normally spend. Well, if he's still sitting there April first,

1157
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: in coun have cost you nothing, that's fair. I mean,

1158
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: with the guy's gonna look up and go, oh, I

1159
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: don't have a job, and now the draft's happening. Oh,

1160
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: sign me, please, somebody, somebody picked me. I mean, we've

1161
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: got nine days until the deadline for the tags March eighteenth,

1162
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: to start in the new league year April sixth. New

1163
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: coaches can have their offseason workouts in the April twenty

1164
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 1: third is the start of the draft. So plenty going

1165
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: on over the next couple of weeks throughout the off season.

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Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it today. Here for Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Here from the ASWBC Mortgage studio for Rob Phillips, Heck Maharrison,

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Speaker 1: for Mickey Spagnola. I'm Kyle Yomans. Thanks for watching. We'll

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