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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Ella Labine with us, renowned biblical scholar, et experiencer, and

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Speaker 2: longtime UFO researchers. She is a member of both MoveOn

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Speaker 2: Colorado and Mofon National Zachariah Sitchin protege. Eli interviewed the

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Speaker 2: famed author in nineteen ninety five and then became a

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Speaker 2: student in his International Bible Study Group with degrees and

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Speaker 2: Social Sciences and Biology from Ben Gurion University in Israel.

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Speaker 2: Ella experienced a number of close encounters with extraterrestrial beings

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Speaker 2: during her time in that country back in nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: This inspired her to dig deeper into what has become

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Speaker 2: a forty plus year journey to research and discover the

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Speaker 2: truth about UFOs, aliens, et gods and angels. Ella, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the program.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. George. It's good to be

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Speaker 3: here with you.

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Speaker 2: You've been doing this for forty years. What were you one

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Speaker 2: years old when you started?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm a senior now, so yeah, I'm in

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Speaker 3: my sixties.

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Speaker 2: I met the Zachariah Sitch in a couple of years

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Speaker 2: before he passed away, and I had the honor of

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Speaker 2: giving him an award from the Conscious Life Expo. It

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Speaker 2: was a Lifetime Achievement award, and that were you there?

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Speaker 3: I called him, but I saw it.

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Speaker 2: I called him up on stage. I called him up

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Speaker 2: on stage, and as we were giving him the award,

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Speaker 2: I said to him, because he was up there in age.

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Speaker 2: I think he was about ninety years old at that time,

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Speaker 2: and I said, Zachariah, exactly how old are you? I

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Speaker 2: said that in front of the crowd, to be funny, right,

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Speaker 2: and he looked at me and went, that's Vettie Duwood.

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Speaker 2: But we gave the award and we stayed friends. But

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Speaker 2: I love his work about the Auto Naki and all that,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure you got into that in a big

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Speaker 2: way with him.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was a very kind man and you know, brilliant,

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Speaker 3: and you know, he was a great inspiration to me.

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Speaker 3: So I learned a lot this and that here and there,

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Speaker 3: you know, trying to unravel this grand mystery. And I

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Speaker 3: got to talk to him in I interviewed him in

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five, and then I was able to see

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Speaker 3: him three times after that he came to Colorado and

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Speaker 3: did lectures here.

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Speaker 2: So well, what a what a brilliant mind. And then

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Speaker 2: you know, he interpreted these ancient tablets as truly remarkable

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Speaker 2: that the Annaki came from another planet in our solar system,

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Speaker 2: way out that's on a thirty six hundred year elliptical

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Speaker 2: orbit to mine for gold, to sprinkle it is gold

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Speaker 2: dust in their atmosphere, to protect their atmosphere in that

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Speaker 2: amazing and then whatever creatures were on this planet, they figured,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to dig it. We need some help here.

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Speaker 2: Let's genetically alter whatever creatures are on planet Earth and

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Speaker 2: get the gold. And that's where we came.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think that there's a lot to that

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Speaker 3: story about our history. But you know, I think that

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Speaker 3: it got a little mis understood true when it was

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Speaker 3: you know, when it was out there and people thought

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Speaker 3: that he was saying that that they created us from scratch,

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Speaker 3: and this is what I have done. You know, like

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Speaker 3: when it comes to research, it's like a baton race,

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Speaker 3: you know, like somebody does their pioneering, which he has done.

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Speaker 3: He carved out a whole field of research, and then

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Speaker 3: the baton gets passed to the next generation or you know,

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Speaker 3: the next researcher to unpack more, because nobody is perfect

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Speaker 3: and you can't let perfection be the enemy of the good.

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Speaker 3: And so some of the things that he said about

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Speaker 3: the creation of us got misunderstood. So that is what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people misunderstood Zachariah and

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Speaker 2: believe that his theory of the Ononaki meant that they

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Speaker 2: were our gods and that there weren't any other gods

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Speaker 2: or god exactly.

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Speaker 3: Thank you George for understanding that. That is exactly my point,

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Speaker 3: because you know, the story, and he even wrote this

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Speaker 3: in his books, was that that Deannaki came and then

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Speaker 3: they implanted earth women, so that all of the sudden

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Speaker 3: implies that that earth women, human women were already on

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Speaker 3: a genetic manipulation. So, and you know, I also believe

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Speaker 3: that the Bible, which is a historical record, not just

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Speaker 3: a religious book, that Genesis won one. For instance, it

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Speaker 3: starts off with and the Spirit hovered over the waters

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Speaker 3: the first Great Flood, which was the thinking of the

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Speaker 3: civilizations of Atlantis and Lemyria. So you know, human beings

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Speaker 3: in the Adam and Eve story, which in the Book

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Speaker 3: Adam and Eve, which basically gives you the whole story,

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Speaker 3: and it's a cosmic drama between the Lord, the Serpent angels,

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Speaker 3: Adam and Eve. You know. So Zachariah Fitchen called that

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Speaker 3: because of Adam and Eve. They called it the evodemic race,

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Speaker 3: which I adopted, so I call it that.

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Speaker 1: In my books.

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Speaker 3: Fascinating, yeah, because they were sort of that phototype of humans.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing that I found was that they walked.

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Speaker 3: It says they walked in the Garden of Eden with

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Speaker 3: the Lord and they had everything. Okay, they you know,

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Speaker 3: they they walked in there what I call glory bodies. Well,

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Speaker 3: the Bible also called it that too, and you know,

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Speaker 3: other people call it light bodies, but they were firing

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Speaker 3: on all twelve strands of DNA and the before they

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Speaker 3: arrived there was a galactic war, which is what caused

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Speaker 3: the thinking of Atlantis and the being who Now this

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Speaker 3: talked a lot about Marduke that hey, and Mars, which

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Speaker 3: planet Mars Mars. It's after him, and he was the

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Speaker 3: and he was the Lord of Mars. And I'm sure

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Speaker 3: And that's why there's so many similarities between us, well.

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Speaker 2: And Cairo, mean Mars, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they have you know the Sidonia and Sidone

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Speaker 3: many similarities. And we know that they went back and forth.

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Speaker 3: And what's ironic to me is that now you have

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Speaker 3: So back in the day, Mars used to be like Earth,

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Speaker 2: Hello, tell us about some of your sightings that really

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Speaker 2: spearheaded some of your research into the alien presence that

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Speaker 2: you believe is existing on this planet now.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, so it kind of started. I mean I

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Speaker 3: was always interested in you know, angels and God and ets,

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Speaker 3: I saw us. I saw a spaceship come out of

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Speaker 2: You're in abductee since stage of two, aren't you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And that was another piece that you know, I

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Speaker 3: So were you These are things that we don't always choose.

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Speaker 3: It's like something that happens, I believe, like it's like

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Speaker 3: then I realized that I'm not alone. That you know,

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Speaker 3: people all over the world have had very similar experiences.

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Speaker 2: How often did you have these abducte cases happened to you?

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Speaker 2: It started at too, but did you have many afterwards?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was pretty regular throughout my life. My parents

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Speaker 3: But then I started having like physical things, like like

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Speaker 3: My father married this Jewish divorcee with three daughters, so

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Speaker 3: I inherited three stepsisters, and oh my goodness, I mean

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Speaker 3: you know, I've learned is called anomalist trauma, which comes

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Speaker 2: Is it still ongoing, Ella or has it all?

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Speaker 3: No, no, I'm completely you know. I had this near

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Speaker 3: death experience in twenty ten and I saw yes shuah.

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Speaker 3: And after that I got healed of all of these

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Speaker 3: uh you know, symptoms of the alien abductions, the needle phobia,

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Speaker 3: my it just disappeared. I had lifelong allergies, like and

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Speaker 3: they're all gone now. I was healed of all kinds

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Speaker 3: he told me because I was, you know, studying all

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Speaker 3: and he told me that he wanted me to rewrite

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Speaker 2: It's an amazing book and it's it's hundreds of pages long,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they all are you know, I'm a retired paralegal,

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Speaker 3: so I feel always feel like I have to prove things,

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Speaker 3: you know, because it's like it's very controversial. So I

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Speaker 3: give a lot of you know, I basically I took

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Speaker 3: my skill set and applied it to this area to

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Speaker 3: prove points to I connect dots, I make conclusions. I

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Speaker 3: offer a lot of research that people could look stuff

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Speaker 3: up for themselves and you know, not just take my

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, everybody's looking to figure this out,

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Speaker 3: So it's my contribution.

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