1
00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880
Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera.

2
00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:10,000
Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stump Mom? Never told you?

3
00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,599
Speaker 1: From House top works dot Com. Hello and welcome to

4
00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,599
Speaker 1: the podcast. This is Molly and I'm Kristin. Kristin question

5
00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,480
Speaker 1: for you. Have you ever experienced urinaryan continents? I'm not

6
00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,280
Speaker 1: going to do that, all right, Well, I shall be

7
00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,160
Speaker 1: open and forthright and tell you that I feel that

8
00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm destined to because I've been to a lot of

9
00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,479
Speaker 1: family gatherings. Yeah, where you know people you beat your pants.

10
00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,640
Speaker 1: Not me myself, but um, I'm destined for because the

11
00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,680
Speaker 1: ladies and my family get to laugh and real hard

12
00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,720
Speaker 1: at something and then they all got to run to

13
00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,599
Speaker 1: the bathroom. And if we're in a place with limited bathrooms,

14
00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,160
Speaker 1: watch out. You know. Welly, you tend to you tend

15
00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,280
Speaker 1: to be pretty private about about your personal life on

16
00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,440
Speaker 1: the podcast, and I am, well, because I'm telling stories

17
00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,640
Speaker 1: about other people right now. Yeah, but it's reflective on yourself.

18
00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,400
Speaker 1: I will. I think this is a very this is

19
00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,720
Speaker 1: a moment, Moll. You relieve you really open up. Well,

20
00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,440
Speaker 1: I think it shows I have a really funny family

21
00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,960
Speaker 1: that we laugh so much that uh that that we

22
00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,360
Speaker 1: pe a lot. I mean, you bring an extra pair

23
00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,640
Speaker 1: of pants to our family or union on my family.

24
00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do feel that I'm gonna have probably

25
00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,480
Speaker 1: if genetics plays into this all, which I believe it does,

26
00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to have some problems with your near incontinence

27
00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,000
Speaker 1: putting it out there right now. But luckily this week

28
00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,440
Speaker 1: I learned all about the exercise I need uh to

29
00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,400
Speaker 1: stave that off, you know. And that is the cagel,

30
00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,760
Speaker 1: the kegel, which some people pronounce keegel, but Webster's Medical

31
00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,160
Speaker 1: Dictionary pronounces of both keegel and kegel. Either will do

32
00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,440
Speaker 1: tomato tomato, keegle, kegel, and we're gonna call it kegel

33
00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,280
Speaker 1: because it rhymes with bagel, which is what I have

34
00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,600
Speaker 1: for breakfast this morning. There were going so now I

35
00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:57,520
Speaker 1: will forever associate bagels with urine. And you're p P

36
00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:03,160
Speaker 1: and Grandma's well, Kristen, leaving that aside ruining my favorite

37
00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,160
Speaker 1: breakfast food by mixing it up with urine. I want

38
00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,919
Speaker 1: to take us back to the nineteen forties when one

39
00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,760
Speaker 1: doctor Arnold cagele O B. G. Y N in California said,

40
00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,280
Speaker 1: I am noticing that there's a lot of urinary incontinence

41
00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,680
Speaker 1: after women have a child. I have come up with

42
00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,680
Speaker 1: this exercise to strengthen the pubvit floor, and I'm going

43
00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,079
Speaker 1: to name it after myself because we all love being

44
00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,079
Speaker 1: associated with the pelvit floor. Gave birth to the cable exercise,

45
00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,799
Speaker 1: and you know it's it's considered sort of the primary

46
00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,959
Speaker 1: your first response to urinaryan continents. And that's funny because

47
00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,320
Speaker 1: I was really surprised to learn about this incontinence link

48
00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,959
Speaker 1: because I've always heard about Cagles in the context of sex. Well,

49
00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,080
Speaker 1: and that's the thing is that Dr Cagle gives us

50
00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,800
Speaker 1: exercise to all these women so that they can strengthen

51
00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,359
Speaker 1: their public floors and hopefully experienced your incidence of incontinence,

52
00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,959
Speaker 1: and then like later, these women would whisper to him.

53
00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,000
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm finding that this improves my orgasm,

54
00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,560
Speaker 1: and uh, it's a fortunate side effect that Lady Max

55
00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,080
Speaker 1: have picked up on since then. But the main reason

56
00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,840
Speaker 1: it's usually used is if you have uh urinaryan continence

57
00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,320
Speaker 1: and men who have urinarian continence after a prostate surgery,

58
00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,200
Speaker 1: so it is for men and women. So a lot

59
00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,080
Speaker 1: of people probably know what Kegle exercise is involved, but

60
00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,480
Speaker 1: let's get down de brass tacks about it. Okay. It

61
00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:28,960
Speaker 1: basically involves clenching your pubococka gus muscle, over and over.

62
00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,960
Speaker 1: And the way people tell you to find this is

63
00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,720
Speaker 1: to pretend you're urinating and then pretend like you have

64
00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,360
Speaker 1: to stop uh, the urine from flowing. And when that

65
00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,480
Speaker 1: muscle is the muscle you're supposed to squeeze. But doctors say,

66
00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,280
Speaker 1: don't actually do that when you are urinating. Just maybe

67
00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,360
Speaker 1: once like to figure out the muscle, but don't do

68
00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,080
Speaker 1: it over and over again. That's not not going to

69
00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,160
Speaker 1: help things. And while you're doing your kegels, you want

70
00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,760
Speaker 1: to keep the following muscles relaxed, which would be the

71
00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,160
Speaker 1: abdominal muscles, your buttocks, and your thighs. You like a

72
00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,280
Speaker 1: full body clench. You just focus on the pubo cocas

73
00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,400
Speaker 1: is what it was. Yeah, if you if you squeeze

74
00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,320
Speaker 1: the wrong muscles with you, you're working the wrong thing

75
00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,560
Speaker 1: um And some people just can't figure out which muscle

76
00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,600
Speaker 1: they need to be squeezing. And if that's the case,

77
00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,040
Speaker 1: you can get to a doctor and they'll do a

78
00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,360
Speaker 1: method called biofeedback, which is where they will essentially put

79
00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,479
Speaker 1: electrodes on the abdomen and along the anal area to

80
00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,000
Speaker 1: make sure you are squeezing the right thing. But if

81
00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,800
Speaker 1: you really want to maximize your kegel exercise, there's some

82
00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,000
Speaker 1: equipment you can use too. Yes, you can use cones

83
00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,560
Speaker 1: and weight vaginal cones. Yeah, there are a lot of

84
00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,200
Speaker 1: health stye out there about the efficiency of vaginal cones. Yeah.

85
00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,000
Speaker 1: You basically like put these weights. Um, if you are

86
00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,200
Speaker 1: a woman, you have some lady parts, you put weights

87
00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,880
Speaker 1: essentially into your vagina and clench it to hold it

88
00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,400
Speaker 1: in there. Yea, But you don't have to. You can

89
00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,000
Speaker 1: just do the regular Yeah, no weights at all. And

90
00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,479
Speaker 1: if you do that, they recommend that you do it

91
00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,440
Speaker 1: on an empty bladder, that you tighten the muscle and

92
00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,520
Speaker 1: hold for account of ten and then relax completely for

93
00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,599
Speaker 1: account of ten. And the sources we found recommended doing

94
00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,880
Speaker 1: ten exercises three times a day. You can do them

95
00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,919
Speaker 1: lying down, you can do them sitting in a chair,

96
00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,040
Speaker 1: and don't expect to see a ton of results for

97
00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,680
Speaker 1: about four or six weeks, and supposedly after three months

98
00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,919
Speaker 1: you would see a quote major change. And these are

99
00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,040
Speaker 1: the exercises that you'll always see people say you can

100
00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,040
Speaker 1: do it, like while you're on the bus, you can

101
00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,960
Speaker 1: do it while you're standing in line. I might be

102
00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,800
Speaker 1: doing some right now. Yeah, so, um, you know it's

103
00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,720
Speaker 1: it's not something that requires a ton of I was

104
00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,480
Speaker 1: a better say, requires a ton of equipment. But we

105
00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,000
Speaker 1: just talked about vaginal cones. But if you're doing your

106
00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,440
Speaker 1: basic kegel, that's the one that everyone's like, do it

107
00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,320
Speaker 1: all the time, do it everywhere. And I did find

108
00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,400
Speaker 1: a kegel song that if you need help musically, if

109
00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, working out to Madonna or Lady Gaga doesn't

110
00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,279
Speaker 1: do it for you, you you can download a kegel song

111
00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,880
Speaker 1: that will tell you when to squeeze. Um. I think

112
00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,080
Speaker 1: if you just google cagele song and be pretty easy

113
00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,200
Speaker 1: to find. Um. But let's talk a little bit more

114
00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,800
Speaker 1: about incontinent since it is something that so many women

115
00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,480
Speaker 1: deal with. Yes, among women ages thirty to thirty nine,

116
00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,440
Speaker 1: and that's pretty young. Nine, Well, they probably just had

117
00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,080
Speaker 1: a baby, yeah, and estimated twenty eight percent. And that's

118
00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,960
Speaker 1: where that one in three comes in. I experienced some

119
00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,880
Speaker 1: loss of urinary control, and you know you you made

120
00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,640
Speaker 1: the point of saying that's pretty young. I think that

121
00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,760
Speaker 1: we do all associate urinary in continence with an older woman. Yeah, reminder,

122
00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,360
Speaker 1: older man, remember that old sn L sketch. Oops, I

123
00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,479
Speaker 1: craped my pants? Yes, I mean this is really what's

124
00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,440
Speaker 1: coming to mind, over and over again, the sweet this

125
00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,960
Speaker 1: rechieving ford to a giant diaper um. There's another image

126
00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be hard to get out in my head.

127
00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,440
Speaker 1: The rest of the podcast, christon that together with your

128
00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,200
Speaker 1: bagels welling. And because we do associate it with an

129
00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,720
Speaker 1: elder elder group of people, very few women talk to

130
00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,280
Speaker 1: their doctors about it. There are some estimates that say

131
00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,400
Speaker 1: less than who experienced this talk to their doctors about it.

132
00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,880
Speaker 1: I've seen something that says like a quarter of women

133
00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,400
Speaker 1: talk to their doctors about it, and they'll suffer for

134
00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,160
Speaker 1: years and years before they'll bring it up. You know,

135
00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,440
Speaker 1: I was reading about how a lot of women experience

136
00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,240
Speaker 1: this when they're jogging. They'll just be jogging and all

137
00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,720
Speaker 1: of a sudden urine and they'll just stop jogging. And

138
00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, that's really not the best answer. You should

139
00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,840
Speaker 1: probably see if you can maybe giggle it out before

140
00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,520
Speaker 1: you give up jogging altogether. And there's a link between

141
00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,920
Speaker 1: incontinence and depression, not surprisingly, and it's sort of there's

142
00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,040
Speaker 1: a correlation causation question that comes up a lot with it.

143
00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,120
Speaker 1: We're not they're not sure whether or not it's the

144
00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,760
Speaker 1: incontinence that leads to depression, because it's got to be

145
00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,240
Speaker 1: tough if you're going throughout your your day to day

146
00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,600
Speaker 1: routine not knowing whether or not you're gonna need a

147
00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:45,120
Speaker 1: change of pants, um or if the serotonin neurotransmitters or

148
00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:51,320
Speaker 1: somehow interfering with chemicals that affect the bladder. Urinary incontinence

149
00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,280
Speaker 1: can also happen during sex. So we're mixing two of

150
00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,000
Speaker 1: the most awkward things to talk about, sex and urine.

151
00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,880
Speaker 1: So be aware of that. And so that the point

152
00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,840
Speaker 1: of matter is is that usually if you do ask

153
00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,600
Speaker 1: a doctor about it, one of the first things they

154
00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,200
Speaker 1: probably will ask is if you are doing cagles. So

155
00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,040
Speaker 1: even though I mean, thinking about this, even though there's

156
00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,960
Speaker 1: a I would say, a misconception about the point of kegles.

157
00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,240
Speaker 1: You know, in popular culture it's all related to sex.

158
00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,640
Speaker 1: But maybe that's a good thing because, um, you know,

159
00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,080
Speaker 1: since incontinence is affecting so many younger women, you know,

160
00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,440
Speaker 1: and it might be kind of taboo, maybe it's a

161
00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,680
Speaker 1: good thing that the kegles are this kind of accepted

162
00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,840
Speaker 1: exercise because we related to the bedroom rather than the bathroom. Now,

163
00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,600
Speaker 1: I did come across one interesting article that I wanted

164
00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,680
Speaker 1: to talk about because I feel like with the proliferation

165
00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,559
Speaker 1: of cable exercises information in like Cosmo and Glamor and

166
00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,680
Speaker 1: all that, because we do associate it with with sex,

167
00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,240
Speaker 1: there's this question of when should you start doing cagles

168
00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,640
Speaker 1: And a lot of the research about incontinent says you

169
00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,400
Speaker 1: you sort of start once you have that problem. But

170
00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,880
Speaker 1: is it preventative? And I don't think doctors really know that.

171
00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,080
Speaker 1: But a really interesting article from two thousand eight in

172
00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,600
Speaker 1: the New York Times talked about this woman and Dr

173
00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,800
Speaker 1: Laurie Romanzi, who opened a gynecological practice that was sort

174
00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,640
Speaker 1: of based around the idea of a pelvic spa and

175
00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,000
Speaker 1: what was essentially, you know, a gynecological exam turned into

176
00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,800
Speaker 1: this treatment where she taught you how to do a

177
00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,720
Speaker 1: cagel and you treated it like a spa day. Yeah,

178
00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,920
Speaker 1: And it was called FIT P I T. What was

179
00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,360
Speaker 1: the acronym stand for? Do you remember? Pelvic Health Integrated Techniques?

180
00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,800
Speaker 1: And we try to figure out whether or not this

181
00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,520
Speaker 1: place in New York is still open because the article

182
00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,760
Speaker 1: is from two thousand and eight, and we're not exactly sure.

183
00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if via the

184
00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,959
Speaker 1: cagel SPA really picked up. And there was a lot

185
00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,600
Speaker 1: of criticism in this article about you know, it's not

186
00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,720
Speaker 1: clear whether you know if someone who hasn't had a baby,

187
00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,880
Speaker 1: who's very young comes to this doctor and learns how

188
00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,959
Speaker 1: to properly do a cagel. This doctor is alleging that

189
00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,120
Speaker 1: it's quote the dental floss of feminine fitness. It's just

190
00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,959
Speaker 1: something you should do to keep the area into shape.

191
00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,520
Speaker 1: But a lot of doctors who responded to her and said,

192
00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,920
Speaker 1: there's no evidence that a young woman who starts doing

193
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,680
Speaker 1: cable exercises will decrease her chances of pelvic problems later

194
00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,640
Speaker 1: in life. So maybe they still can get some of

195
00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,000
Speaker 1: those sexual benefits. They'll experienced stronger orgasms, have a better

196
00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,760
Speaker 1: time in the bedroom, but we don't know if it

197
00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,520
Speaker 1: affects the incontinence problems quite so much. But before we

198
00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,240
Speaker 1: wrap things up, we should mention that in addition to

199
00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,280
Speaker 1: cagle exercises, there are some simple lifestyle change will not

200
00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,640
Speaker 1: necessarily simple, but lifestyle changes that people can make that

201
00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,960
Speaker 1: can help reduce incontinence, such as losing weight, reducing their

202
00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:43,520
Speaker 1: intakes of liquids, and cutting back on caffeine, booze and smoking.

203
00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,439
Speaker 1: And don't forget if you have trouble doing your cables

204
00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,600
Speaker 1: by yourself, get a man in on the game with you.

205
00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,840
Speaker 1: They do it the same way. They try and wait

206
00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,800
Speaker 1: for that muscle to stop the our nation and then

207
00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,480
Speaker 1: they just squeeze. It isn't her kegles? Isn't her cagles? Normally,

208
00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,240
Speaker 1: you and I can you know if if we ever

209
00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,040
Speaker 1: needed a partner up, since you're kind of worried about

210
00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,160
Speaker 1: your continance, I would I would do some kegles. You

211
00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,440
Speaker 1: would do kegles with me? Yeah? But I think is

212
00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,480
Speaker 1: on the sweetest you bring? You bring the bagels, I'll

213
00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,360
Speaker 1: do some kegles. Awesome, it's a date, all right? All right?

214
00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,040
Speaker 1: Let us know what you guys think. Have you had

215
00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,280
Speaker 1: great experiences with kegles? Have you seen them work in

216
00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,200
Speaker 1: your own life? Are you annoyed that we haven't been

217
00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,280
Speaker 1: calling them keegels the whole time? I bet there's a

218
00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,280
Speaker 1: lot of you are. Would you go to a kegel spa?

219
00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,440
Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. And as always. You can email

220
00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,280
Speaker 1: us any of those thoughts or anything else in your

221
00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,720
Speaker 1: mind at mom Stuff at how stuff works dot com.

222
00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,920
Speaker 1: And I shall read an email from that very address,

223
00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:43,920
Speaker 1: and it is from Grace, and she writes, I was

224
00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,959
Speaker 1: clearing my room and when I was looking at my closet,

225
00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,920
Speaker 1: I found an old American girl dolf, and when I

226
00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,480
Speaker 1: was about ten, it was Molly, who was always one

227
00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,280
Speaker 1: of my favorites because we looked alike. And I think

228
00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,560
Speaker 1: Molly is a fantastic name, which is Grace. Thank you

229
00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,000
Speaker 1: for saying that. Um. But then I started reminisce about

230
00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,679
Speaker 1: the days when I played with my American girl doll

231
00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,680
Speaker 1: with my younger sister who had Kirsten, but because she

232
00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,120
Speaker 1: couldn't pronounce it at the time she was barely five,

233
00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,640
Speaker 1: she became Kristen. I realized it probably isn't that interesting,

234
00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,400
Speaker 1: but I thought it was quite a coincidence that my

235
00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,160
Speaker 1: favorite thing to pass the time when I was kid,

236
00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,520
Speaker 1: when I was a kid was Kristen and Molly. And

237
00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,360
Speaker 1: now I listened to you too, that is adorable. Is

238
00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,040
Speaker 1: that not the most adorable thing you've ever heard? And

239
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,439
Speaker 1: it's so cute? Um, Well, I've got an email here

240
00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,920
Speaker 1: from Tom, and this is in response in older podcasts

241
00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,480
Speaker 1: we did on whether men and women donate differently, and

242
00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,480
Speaker 1: he writes in your podcasts used words such as stingy

243
00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,160
Speaker 1: and selfish and describing men's donating habits compared to women.

244
00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,079
Speaker 1: Based on your other podcasts, I'm surprised you didn't talk

245
00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,920
Speaker 1: about the role we have in society and that traditionally

246
00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,040
Speaker 1: I would say that still statistically a man is a

247
00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,520
Speaker 1: provider and must make money for his family. I think

248
00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,240
Speaker 1: that plays a and this isn't all caps. People a

249
00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,720
Speaker 1: huge role in donating habits family or not. This is

250
00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,120
Speaker 1: in our d n a to provide and prepare. I

251
00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,280
Speaker 1: know women are making more money and making a jump

252
00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,560
Speaker 1: up the professional ladder, but let's not forget you can

253
00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,040
Speaker 1: still marry a rich man donate his money and not

254
00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,920
Speaker 1: be shunned. In our society men still have and this

255
00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,520
Speaker 1: is again all caps huge pressure of having to be

256
00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:18,440
Speaker 1: the provider and that plays a huge role. So there

257
00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,240
Speaker 1: you go, huge huge. I've got some huge comments for you, Tom,

258
00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,160
Speaker 1: and I will keep them too, what self. If you

259
00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,080
Speaker 1: guys have any comments to send our way again our

260
00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,480
Speaker 1: email as mom stuff and how stuff works dot com.

261
00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,240
Speaker 1: Hit us up on Facebook too. That's a great way

262
00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,280
Speaker 1: to get in touch and uh interact with other listeners.

263
00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,000
Speaker 1: And you can hit us up on Facebook as well.

264
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,679
Speaker 1: It is at mom Stuff Podcasts and finally, you can

265
00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,240
Speaker 1: read our blog during the week stuff Mom Never Told

266
00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:47,719
Speaker 1: You at how stuff works dot com for moralness and

267
00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,240
Speaker 1: thousands of other topics. Is it how stuff works dot

268
00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,840
Speaker 1: com to learn more about the podcast clock on the

269
00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,720
Speaker 1: podcast icon in the upper right corner of our homepage.

270
00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,520
Speaker 1: The how stuff Works I Find app has a ride.

271
00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:06,000
Speaker 1: Download it today on iTunes, brought to you by the

272
00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,320
Speaker 1: reinvented two thousand twelve camera. It's ready, are you