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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, bow Bishop and Nathan Zigura.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do a live on a reaction Monday

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Speaker 1: at issue of the program. Bow Z the hof in

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Speaker 1: studio as well. We wish we were dissecting a win,

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Speaker 1: and yet somehow this still brings us joy swag. Look

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Speaker 1: keeping it simple. You gotta keep it level here half

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Speaker 1: great to see you, Great seeing you guys as always.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be here in Barria, live and in

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Speaker 1: per It's a treat. It could have been more of

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Speaker 1: a tricky one because when you when you think about

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Speaker 1: the best teams in football and has been building towards

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Speaker 1: game in the second half, Um defensively stifling performance out

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Speaker 1: like this season, anytime off that we have had a

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Speaker 1: it has gone the opposite. You can't be a playoff

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL unless you're making big plays in

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Speaker 1: those big moments. You've got to be the best weekend

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Speaker 1: seem to always define the game. Because it's a league

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Speaker 1: And I think for this team to be able to

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Speaker 1: And some of that's experience, but some of that focus

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Speaker 1: And that's where we saw against the Bucks, we came

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Speaker 1: have it. Situational football has been poor all season long.

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Speaker 1: a second down play to get you in third and

431
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Speaker 1: manageable right which first down running was off? It was terrible.

432
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 1: We were in second and ten plus a lot, and

433
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 1: so you saw a little bit more of like inside

434
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 1: outside his own just seeing if maybe we could take

435
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 1: advantage of him there. But even still it was not

436
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: our offensive lines best game. You weren't getting the push,

437
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: you weren't getting the good combination double teams. Their linebackers

438
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: were coming downhill quick, taking our guys off at double teams,

439
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: and we just weren't able to get the running back

440
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 1: started to allow their ability to work once they get

441
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 1: through that first level. Now they're making guys missing, hitting

442
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: some home runs. And Mike Hilton is a very good

443
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 1: nickel blitzer and he hasn't gotten to the quarterback yet

444
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 1: this year, but he was effective in those run games

445
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 1: where he'd nickel blitz and sometimes the receiver would be

446
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 1: coming down to get him, but he was already through there.

447
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: To your point, there are a few where Jed was

448
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: trying to reach in so Joel could come around him

449
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 1: and he just wasn't able to get that block and

450
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: that blow up. And then sometimes we ran the zone

451
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,199
Speaker 1: either fro Holt couldn't get in front of him or

452
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 1: Wyatt on the backs that wasn't able to get completely

453
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: and from so he's actually kind of running him down

454
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 1: the line into the play, and so we were getting

455
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 1: blown up quite a bit. We had two good runs

456
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: and one was just a pure zone on a second

457
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 1: and twelve, i want to say, and then the other

458
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: was a toss cracked concepts but DPJ got a good

459
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: seal and then they Nick literally ran up Mike woods

460
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 1: back almost trampled him. So the reason they started with

461
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: the toss crack not just because that's what our offense

462
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 1: has done the best. But when you have a guy

463
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: like DJ Reader on the inside, he's really difficult to

464
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 1: reach when you're running inside zone. He's hard because he's

465
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: so big and he's so quick, and so a lot

466
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: of times you don't want to run those wide zones

467
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: because you can't get around him because he stretches the

468
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: play out and allows those linebackers and the backside players

469
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: to make the play or I'll penetrate and you because

470
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: you can't get your hat to the right side on him.

471
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 1: And then he disrupts the timing from the inside. Now

472
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 1: the back has to cut before he's ready, before the

473
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 1: holes have opened up. So I understand what they were

474
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: trying to do early on. But then they couldn't seal

475
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: him on the down block either, So it was like, Man,

476
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: we can't do anything with this guy. How are we

477
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 1: going to be able to run the football effectively? And

478
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna go to a little bit

479
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: more of the zone read type stuff, and they did.

480
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: You saw a few of those in there, um, and

481
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're gonna maybe see more of

482
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: as the season goes on with the show on because

483
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: he's such a big weapon. When the football is in

484
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: his hand, you have ten blockers instead of nine now essentially,

485
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: so you gain an extra blocker when your quarterback has

486
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: the football. Plus with as much outside zone, with as

487
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: much toss crack stuff as we run, there's a lot

488
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: of really nice combinations that go off the backside where

489
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: you got the entire Stanford band running one way and

490
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the quarterbacks pulling and he's running

491
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Speaker 1: in space the other way. And even if they have

492
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: one player staying home, it's DeShawn versus one guy in space,

493
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: and I'm taking DeShawn Watson every time, every time that

494
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Speaker 1: R p O game. Yeah, talk to us about how

495
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: much of a difference it is with fro whole post

496
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 1: It was playing so well and once since he's gone down,

497
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: it's been it's been obviously has never played center in

498
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: the league before. He's our fourth string center. Was supposed

499
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: to be originally Nick Harris, then post It, then Michael

500
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: Dunn won that backup job. He went on I R

501
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: so fro Holt is in there and he's doing the

502
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: best he can. But it's been a problem against the

503
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver's of the world, against the DJ readers of

504
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: the world and and those games. You look at the

505
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: uggles we've had trying to run the ball. The word

506
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: we used to use is edgy. It's you're on the

507
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 1: right guy, you're making the right calls, your footwork is correct,

508
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: but you're just a little edgy and your allowing leakage.

509
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: You're maybe not getting your hat all the way to

510
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: the right side to be able to fully cover up

511
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: that color. Give the running back the trust to stretch it.

512
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: You know, maybe on the down block you're getting there initially,

513
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: but then he's beating you laid over the top, and

514
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: so it's disrupting the play at times. It's not a miss,

515
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: it's not a misassignment, it's not a whiff, but it's

516
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: just edgy enough where it's not clear and it's not

517
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: clean for the quarterback when he's in past protection or

518
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: for the running back when he's trying to run on

519
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: his track and set up those blocks for you. All right, Um,

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Speaker 1: we've had our say. We'll have much more to say

521
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Speaker 1: on this one as well. You'll hear from coach coming

522
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,440
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Speaker 1: here's head coach Kevin's de fans get the podium yesterday,

543
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: Like we talked about after the game, very disappointing obviously

544
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: to go down there and not come away with the victory.

545
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: You put a lot of effort into this thing, um,

546
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: and and the guys played hard, but we just it

547
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough yesterday. That's frustrating. UM, But we know this.

548
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 1: We know we play Saturday in front of our crowd

549
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: division opponent. UM, so that's really where our focus has

550
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 1: to go. It really has to turn quickly. UM. So

551
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing with that will take any questions

552
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: in terms of Shaun yesterday, UM, what did you what

553
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: improvement did you like most? Where did he make the

554
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: biggest strides yesterday? Yeah? I thought he definitely made strides.

555
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: I think that's part of like we've talked about, you know,

556
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: being away and then having that first game, getting that

557
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: one out of the way, and then the second one.

558
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: I did think you saw some improvements and decisions and

559
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: improvements and technique footwork, all those type of things. Just

560
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: making sure that all those game reps. Uh, he keeps

561
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: adding on to what he's doing. Hey, Kevin with the

562
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: sean UM. The TV broadcast showed a couple of plays

563
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: where he looked like he had guys open over the

564
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: middle in the first half either didn't seehim or didn't

565
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: throw it. Is that just something? Is that just part

566
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: of him getting more comfortable on the field and in

567
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: your system. Yeah, and you know you're gonna miss throws.

568
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna miss a couple of reads. That's every quarterback. Uh,

569
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen too. But I think, yeah, getting more

570
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: comfortable and then just playing on time. I think that's

571
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: so much of this game is playing on time, listening

572
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: to your feet. And he did that a few times

573
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: and it was very very well done yesterday. And Kevin,

574
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: I've asked you about this before, but yesterday the Bank

575
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: it was really did a good job of bobbling up

576
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: your running game. And so what did what kind of

577
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: consistent problems have you seen when when that hasn't worked

578
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: in several games now this season. Yeah, I think there's

579
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: a it's always a combination of things, Jeff. I think first,

580
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: like I told you, guys, just say, you gotta give

581
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: them credit. They did a nice job. They want a

582
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: few of their one on one matchups yesterday. That's a

583
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: historically a front in a scheme that we've had some

584
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: success in the run game with utilizing some of those

585
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: schemes that it didn't happen yesterday, So we've got to

586
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: make sure that we look at it and things that

587
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: will do differently next time. And Kevin. According to today's

588
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: NFL staff, the Browns are eighteen of thirty three on

589
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: fourth down conversions. Thirty three is the most in the league.

590
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: The attempt um So why is the organization so gung

591
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: ho on fourth down? Uh? Players? Yeah, I think for me, Tony,

592
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: it's just trying to put our guys in position to

593
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: make a play, stay in the field, convert you know,

594
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: potential threes in seven's. Uh, it's it's a philosophy that

595
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: I believe in. You know, we're going to try to

596
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: be aggressive, and I think our our players understand that

597
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: we're trying to be smart while being aggressive. I want

598
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: to ask you about all the all these you got yesterday,

599
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: especially there in the in the first half, but you

600
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: know it was all said done. Nine penalties for almost

601
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: a hundred yards then that's pretty much the length of

602
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: a football field there. How would you classify those penalties? Obviously,

603
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: physical mistakes are gonna happen throughout the course of the game.

604
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: Would you characterize those is physical mistakes or um, more

605
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: so lack of discipline mistakes? Yeah, I mean really we

606
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: had that string there with the roughing the punter, than

607
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: hands of the face which negated a sack, and then

608
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: d p I. All that came almost consecutively. So that's frustrating.

609
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: Obviously are the physical mistakes and other physical and that's

610
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: part of playing football and trying to play fast. Um,

611
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Tony understands that you can't run into the punter. You

612
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: know that was a mistake. UM, but it's not for

613
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: lack of effort. But you know, we have to be

614
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: better there. We can't, Uh, we can't put ourselves in

615
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: that position when we're about to get the ball. Um.

616
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: So those happen in football. We gotta have we have

617
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: to are coming. Hey, Kevin, Um, you know you talked

618
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: about the struggles offensive line recently. Is Michael donnah an

619
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: option to come back this week? And if so, is

620
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: he or other Do you see any other moves on

621
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: the offensive line that you could try. Yeah, I'm not

622
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: entirely sure yet. On on Michael, I know he's he's

623
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: getting better, uh, spending some time getting better and rehab Uh,

624
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: we'll look at all those type of things, Jeff Fred.

625
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: But with this being, you know, a short week, we'll

626
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: see who we have available to us as this week progresses. Gosh,

627
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: until he said that, he said short week, and I'm like, wait,

628
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: we didn't play were Saturday this week, aren't we? That's right, Saturday,

629
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Speaker 1: Saturday this week, Saturday next week, four o'clock this week,

630
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: kick for thirty. Okay, Wow, I'm gonna come. This thing's

631
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: gonna start stacking here. Look as you as you put

632
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: a it's it's a brutal into it, right because you

633
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: you had, you know, the hope, you know, ten and

634
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: seven win them out, and there's an zero point four

635
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: percent or whatever that you could still at so you

636
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: see it, there's a chance. Um, but it's obviously you know,

637
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker situations are pretty brutal, and it was when

638
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: you had to have and it was a very winnable game.

639
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: I think that's the bitter pill. And it was a

640
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: similar script, not in terms of the way that the

641
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: game looked, but in terms of when big moments happened.

642
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: We were on the wrong side of them, which has

643
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: been something that's been the case all season long. Yeah,

644
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: it's frustrating. It's frustrating, and we said it earlier. This

645
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: season was put into this precarious position, and you could

646
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: say this season got away from us actually early on

647
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: through losses that never should have been, losses through blenders

648
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: that never should have happened, whether they are mental mistakes,

649
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: blown coverages, poor execution. I was watching, I don't even

650
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: know what game I was watching. It was one of

651
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: the games and there's an onside kick. There's like, there's

652
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: only been three onside kicks recovered all the year, and

653
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, we were one of them against the Jets.

654
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: I remember that, although we do have one of the

655
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: two punt returns. But it feels like every game where

656
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: there is a teams blunder, well, it's like automatic loss

657
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: for us. We can't overcome that. Every game that there

658
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: is a blown coverage, it's like a loss. We don't

659
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: really overcome that, although we did in in Carolina with

660
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: a special teams huge play until she was a big play,

661
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: we win. I mean, it's been it's just rough. Miles

662
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: and Clowney could not have been better yesterday. I don't

663
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: think Great and clown great yesterday should have had a sack.

664
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: He had the tip that leads to the pick. I

665
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: mean he had a sack, and we were running a

666
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: lot of I thought, very interesting stuff where Miles at

667
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: times would be in the middle, and Miles was actually

668
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: what I would call, I don't know what the right

669
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: term is it the clear out guy and Clowney would

670
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: loop behind him and that worked really well. I mean

671
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: he came around the corner on Borough bros. Uh just

672
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: ducked his head and he got swallowed up. Those games

673
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: and we haven't really seen a lot of games with

674
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: those two like we did yesterday, which was really effective. Yeah,

675
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: I think it's a good answer to what a lot

676
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: of teams are doing with Miles. If you see when

677
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: ever they put him out at defensive end there, immediately

678
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: putting either a running back or a tight end there,

679
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: and they're hitting him right at the line of scrimmage.

680
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: They're double teaming him from the outside in. And no

681
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: matter how good you are when you're on the outside,

682
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: if as soon as you take one step you've got

683
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: a big tight end smacking you, and then you have

684
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: another offensive tackle that's there to block, it's almost impossible

685
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: to defeat that. So what do you do you get smarter, right,

686
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: rather than just continuing to run your head into a

687
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: brick wall, We'll put Miles on the inside. Because you

688
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: can't do that when you're playing defensive tackle. That's why

689
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: for years and years I've always said Aaron Donald is

690
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: the biggest difference maker on the defensive line in the NFL,

691
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: because when you're coming from the inside, you can't do

692
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: those double teams like you can when you're playing defensive

693
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: end because it's guard center and then maybe tackle if

694
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: you're doing some type of full slide. But for the

695
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: most part, you can affect the play from the inside

696
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: and they can't double you schematically like they can on

697
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: the outside. Yeah, it's I mean, that's it's fun. It's

698
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: just we've we've done this script. We've read the script

699
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: a lot, so it's better bitter pill to swallow. There's

700
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: the play I wanted to ask you about half from

701
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: our standpoint. If you recall they ran it was crazy.

702
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard pre snap dropped to the mic linebacker position

703
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: and then ran a looping blitz from there and we

704
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 1: didn't pick him up at all. And it is one

705
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: where he Claubert Watson. Watson got out of it but

706
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: how is the line do you deal with that? I

707
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: don't know if that's even been on tape before. When

708
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: at the last second and End moves to Mike and

709
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: then he ended up blitzing and they ran everybody this

710
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: way and he looped around. So I think I know

711
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: the player you're talking about. Um, your third down pass

712
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: protection rules, you're gonna call the same protection in the

713
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: in the huddle, so it'll still be like two jet

714
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: protection or three jet or whatever, but your rules are

715
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: totally different on third down because of that reason. So

716
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: on first and second down, you're usually blocking spots. On

717
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: third down you're finding men. So on third down, Sam Hubbard,

718
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: he's not a linebacker. I don't care if he lines

719
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: up as the mic linebacker off the ball like us three.

720
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: We got these three and usually when they're putting them

721
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: off the ball, they're trying to do some type of stunt.

722
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: So that means you're tech changes. Now you got set

723
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: off the ball more. The guys that have somebody in

724
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: their laps got to make sure that they don't let

725
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: those guys penetrate, because what you're trying to do when

726
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: you put that guy off the ball like that, they're

727
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: trying to get penetration from the guys on the line

728
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and as soon as they penetrates, now you've

729
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: got guys that are looping, and you can't pass that

730
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: off when there's penetration and guys are on different levels.

731
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: So I was disappointed that they missed that one because

732
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: it's not fundamental, but it's what every team does on

733
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: third down. As soon as you see, even if you

734
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: haven't seen it on film, you see one of their

735
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: past rushers off the ball, like just imagine in your

736
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: mind if you close your eyes, he's online of scrimmage.

737
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: We got him, and you know what they're trying to

738
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: get to. So it was frustrating, and I'm sure Bill

739
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: Callahan was frustrated when they got beat by that one,

740
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: because although it was a unique look that they haven't seen,

741
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: their rules should have covered it and they should have

742
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: been able to pick that up on the inside, especially

743
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: when you've got to all pro cards. I know that

744
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: your center hasn't been doing it for a long time,

745
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: but you've got to be able to help the guy

746
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: out and start communicating on the line of scrimmage because

747
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what you thought, Z, but on the broadcast,

748
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: maybe you just they had the crowd turned out, but

749
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: it didn't seem that loud in Cincinnati, like it has

750
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: been a lot of time. So maybe maybe it was

751
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: just CBS turning that mike down on the crowd, But

752
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: it seemed like it wasn't a rowdy atmosphere from watching

753
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: it on the TV copy. It was loud, and there

754
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 1: were people in front of us that were very loud.

755
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: Our booth is kind of like in the crowd. Some

756
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: guy was about to get he was about to get

757
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: a knuckle sandwich from Jimmy Donald. I can tell you

758
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: that if he was, if he was left to his

759
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: own devices there. But I thought it was loud. It

760
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: was a good environment and it was kind of electric

761
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: pre game. It was felt like a real big time

762
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: game on both sides, and you could tell that we

763
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: were in their heads a little bit early and then

764
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: we didn't capitalize on it. And that's that's the thing,

765
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: whereas you know, if you hold them to three straight,

766
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 1: you know punts, and it was really four straight would

767
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: have been the fourth punt of the game where we

768
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: got the penalty and then they finally scored. But you

769
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: should be ahead there and That's why sometimes I think

770
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: even those three points, psychologically you're still ahead. Like we

771
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: don't let them score again. They can't beat us. That's it,

772
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: you know. So did Jonah Williams fall start every play

773
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: every single places? Was texting me NonStop. I'm like, I'm

774
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: doing the games, but he's like the left tackles moving

775
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: early every place. Yeah, I thought so too. It looked

776
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: like he was. And did he get one? No, I

777
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: don't believe so, I don't believe. So. They may have

778
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: gotten for a hold and they got Little Collins for

779
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: a couple holds, but that was part of it. Is

780
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: Miles is get off is crazy. The other thing that

781
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: I've noticed this year, and I don't know if you've

782
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: noticed this watching the league, Gibby and I talked about

783
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: it all the time. People are lined up offsides on

784
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: the defensive line on every snap in the league. Now,

785
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: I mean like helmets, like fully across the ball, and

786
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: they never call it. I don't understand it. It's do

787
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: you think it's We're guilty of it a lot, so

788
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm happy they're not calling on us. But it's weird.

789
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if it's just the perspective you're looking

790
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: at because a lot of times if you're not looking

791
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: straight down the line of scrimmage, even just being off

792
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: a couple of yards, it looks like you're off sides.

793
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: But have you actually seen right down the line and Houston,

794
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: it was right in front of us that one, and

795
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: I believe our guy Perry maybe they're Joe. Are you

796
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: talking about like being on the sideline and looking I'm

797
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: saying you have to look straight down. It would be

798
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: like right in front of you, Like when a player

799
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: reaches out to reach across the goal line. Unless you're

800
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: looking right down the goal line, the angle is gonna

801
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: make it look different because of your depth perception, and

802
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: so it's hard to tell for sure where that guy

803
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: is unless you're looking down the line. Is when one

804
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: guy feels like, no matter the angle, that he's like

805
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: a good six inches out of everybody else, Like it

806
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: looks odd and it feels like in the interior guy's

807
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: helmets are over the ball, which I thought was not allowed.

808
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: My favorite part of my favorite part of the entire

809
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: interaction was the fact that s is texting you NonStop

810
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: during the game. Oh and he called me today. It's

811
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: like I'm sorry. I bent to you. I'm like, dude,

812
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm literally working, dude, and it's bothering me more than you.

813
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: I promise you just got look rule number one. You

814
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: get a mute I have, I have groups. I'm group

815
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: text and then I'm like, i gotta mute it for

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00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: Here is Joel Battonio on the penalties and the frustration

834
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: that was mounting. Yeah, it was frustrating, Um, you know,

835
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: and I'm sure some of them are penalty. Some of

836
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: them are you know, they have a tough job to

837
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: do to the refs. But uh, in those situations, you know,

838
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: when you get six or seven penalties and like a

839
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: two drive span of offense and the defense, you know,

840
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit frustrating. So we'll have to

841
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we have to do better.

842
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: But those things, you know, add up as well. Yeah,

843
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: and it is frustrating, certainly that very mentioned fifty eight defensively,

844
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: but they were holds. Conklin got a couple of them,

845
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: That's what you were talking about though, half right. One

846
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: of those was where you just gotta let go when

847
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: you're in the right spot and he just you know,

848
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: just shot him on one on. They got him on

849
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: one where we did a designed quarterback powers It looked

850
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: like a read option, but you saw the backside pull

851
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: that he followed. Yeah, what they called that hold on it,

852
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: but like Watson was already falling to the ground, like

853
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with the play. How are

854
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: you on? I just wanted I didn't know if it's

855
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: his Mike on. Okay, it seemed like it was. It

856
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: was not. I was talking to definitely, not like I

857
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: didn't know we're on. Yeah, I was just talking, we'll

858
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: do it live. Um. Yeah, I think in those situations,

859
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: you gotta understand Jack was pulling through and he had

860
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: the block one like it was over and you just

861
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: gotta let go in that situation because the wrest will

862
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: give you a leeway when you first make contact if

863
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: your hands are outside, but if you don't immediately refit

864
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: them to the inside or let go, that's when they're

865
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna call it because the players going to the ground,

866
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: your hands are outside, and it's gonna look like a hold.

867
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: Every single time. He was already falling though. I mean,

868
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: I realized that it didn't have any impact on the plane.

869
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm saying it doesn't have any impact

870
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: on the plane. Where do you hang on to him

871
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: all the way to the ground or you let go

872
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: and you fall on him on the ground. So don't

873
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: do it. Don't do it because it's gonna be a penalty. Uh,

874
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: MARII Cooper was a warrior to be out there yesterday.

875
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: You could tell that that he wasn't all that he

876
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: needed to be, but he battled through it. His quarterback

877
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson was appreciative. Here's that. Um, you know,

878
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: you can kind of see it here and there. You know,

879
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: you got to make sure that you know certain routes

880
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: that we call during a game that he's feeling, you know,

881
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: a hundred and some routes that he's not. Um, I

882
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: know early on, I guess they were supping him in

883
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: and out. I'm not sure but that situation. But um,

884
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: you know, towards the end, we just gotta keep getting

885
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: better and I gotta keep trusting him, and you gotta

886
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: keep trusting me, and we're gonna continue to do that.

887
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: You know, there's an own you know, process ahead of

888
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: us and you know, some marathon, so we have to

889
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: keep pushing forward, keep pushing forward. Yeah, certainly was good

890
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: to see that. Watson was asked about his own progress

891
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: through two games. Here's what he had to say. UM, yeah,

892
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean the progress is always you know, taking one step,

893
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, one step forward and just one step forward.

894
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: The biggest ultimate goal though, is trying to get the

895
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: w especially in the division. And uh, you know that

896
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: one hurts, um, but we have to you know, learn

897
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: from this. Watched the tape turn around this week. UM,

898
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: get back in there, get guys healthy, and we got

899
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: a big one Saturday. The fact of the matter was

900
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: he was better. You saw glimpses of was it a

901
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: perfect game, No, but you certainly saw the glimpses of

902
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: what makes him special and what makes this Cleveland Browns

903
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: team a team that, with Deshaun Watson at quarterback, can

904
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: be one that competes for the division title, the a

905
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: f C title, a super Bowl title. That's what he

906
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: can give you. You saw glimpses of it. Ten points.

907
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: Of course, that's not good, but to our point earlier,

908
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: had we kicked the field goal in the opening possession,

909
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: whole and maybe we end up in the who knows,

910
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: because the game changes, the pressure changes, all of it changes.

911
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: But you saw the glimpses of why we're excited about

912
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson. I think what's become really apparent, and it's

913
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: something that goes back to what we discussed in the

914
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: beginning of the off season was if Anthony Schwartz was

915
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: not going to be the answer that we needed to

916
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: get a receiver, a third receiver with speed. David Bell

917
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: is very nice in the underneath game, we've seen that

918
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: he started to catch more passes, but we need somebody

919
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: that creates space for Donovan and Amari and David and

920
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: Joke wo would create space for Nick Chubb and we

921
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: don't have that. To me as I sit here right now,

922
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: priority number one is to get that guy for this

923
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: football team. You can argue that we've been saying that, well,

924
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: you can't argue it's fact. We said that in camp. Yes,

925
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: like where we were all sitting on can we get

926
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: a guy? Give? Can we get a fan? And then

927
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: the next thing was can we get we got to

928
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: get a guy? And they bet big on Anthony Schwartz.

929
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: They did, and it's and it's failed. It's yeah, that's

930
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: that's that's just it's sometimes it's injury, sometimes it's whatever.

931
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: But you had to have that person on this roster

932
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: and and they don't, so that's and apparent. Look, Wilfuler

933
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: is not in the league with anybody, so there's obviously

934
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: more to it there. But it's a guy that you'd say, hey,

935
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: maybe we could kick the tires on him. Let's see

936
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: if the shan and he can rekindle what they had

937
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: in Houston for four games and give them like kind

938
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: of a try out for It's I'm probably late for

939
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: that now, but that's something I would have thought about,

940
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: you know, once, once you got him in there. But look,

941
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: he's not the lead for It's not just us. They

942
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: right not signed will Fuller. So yeah, but we do

943
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: yeah that that that part of this offense just simply

944
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: is not here at the Great Miss k Lovely um

945
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett afterwards was asked about look playoff chances dwindling

946
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: um but but far from any give up in this team.

947
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: Here's what Miles had to say. I mean, I don't

948
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: know what I chances, i't know what percentage is. I

949
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: just know next week we gotta don't want to know.

950
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: We got punched some mine in mouth and if five chances,

951
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: I was yo, we gotta knock down some else's chances

952
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: at the day. I'm not giving up, and his team

953
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: is not giving up. I'm regardless of you know where

954
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: we stand. No, it's it's it's all about pride, It's

955
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: all about desire. Now I've said that since day one. Now,

956
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: you play for your brothers, not just for yourself. It's

957
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: a good leadership there for Miles, and he's your player

958
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: of of the greatest consequence. It's nice to hear him

959
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: step up. He had two sacks, three tackles for losses,

960
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: two passes defense, three quarterback hits. He was a constant

961
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: thorn in the side there. He's now over seventy sacks

962
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: for his career. Want of ten players to accomplish that

963
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: in this first six seasons in the league. And you

964
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: heard him, I think, really step up right there and

965
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: speak to what it means. You know, what what's left

966
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: to do and how he's gonna help this team do it.

967
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: He's been sensational. I mean he's been sensational. Here's the

968
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: just so so you understand where you are at five

969
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: and eight. Um, the last wild card team is the

970
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: Chargers at seven and six, but of course they have

971
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker over you. Uh, the teams between you and

972
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: the Chargers are New England and the Jets, and of

973
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: course they have the tiebreakers over you, so you would

974
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: really need a ten loss. If you you need nine,

975
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: you need nine losses. You need the Jets to lose

976
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: three more games. You need New England with lose three

977
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: more games. You'd need Los Angeles to live. Well, that

978
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't even do it. No, you need ten, You need

979
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: four more losses for all of them, because no. Nine

980
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: and eight does it. If you at nine and eight

981
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: and they're all eight nine, you get in. But you

982
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: need to be a full game better than those three teams,

983
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: and they're the teams that are directly ahead of you

984
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: in the postseason, So you lose all typebreakers if that

985
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: comes to be, because we stack three wins in a

986
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: row and a bunch of other stuff happens, and we

987
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: can think about that and we gay teams, so be it.

988
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: But for me right now, it's how do what do

989
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: we see from t Sean? Can we finish this season strong?

990
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: I'd love to go three and one in these final four.

991
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: You'd love to go four, No, obviously, but two is

992
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: in a tough spot. It's it's on life support and

993
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: not looking good. Oh I'm not pedal and hope I

994
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: was just given an illustration of what it is. This

995
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: is where, this is, what this is, the numbers of it,

996
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: and that's why it's it is it is where it

997
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: is down the stretch. How much would you guys like

998
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: to see the Browns offense commit to the running game

999
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: and kind of do some of the things that got

1000
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: us some success in the last couple of years. And

1001
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: how much do you want to just throw all that

1002
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: out the window and say, let's just throw to Shaun

1003
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: Watson times a game, mixing some of the play action

1004
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: or zone red type stuff we think he can be

1005
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: good at, and just start working on our offense for

1006
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: next season. And we will all answer that coming up next,

1007
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: because that's the perfect segue to the next to the

1008
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: next year. We will get into what we expect in

1009
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,959
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1017
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: Second hour of the program here the hof in studio

1018
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: with us brilliantly asked that question at the end of

1019
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: the last segment. With four games left in the regular season,

1020
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: where do you want to go? Here? You asked the question,

1021
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: do you want to see us doing what we did

1022
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 1: when we had success running the ball the last couple

1023
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: of years with a run heavy look, or do we

1024
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: want to see uh, DeShawn Spinnett. You asked the question

1025
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: and give you the first chance to answer it. Yeah,

1026
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: I want to see Deshaun Spinnett. I want to see

1027
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: what this offense is gonna look like next season. You've

1028
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: got five games left to try to figure out, Hey,

1029
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: what does DeShawn do best with this personnel group around him?

1030
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: What are some of maybe creative things that we're gonna

1031
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: throw in there? And it's almost like a little bit

1032
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: of an exhibition game where you get an opportunity for

1033
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: live game reps against another team to be able to

1034
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: see what you can do when he's on the field

1035
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: and how it makes things difficult on the defense. And

1036
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: when you're doing that, if Deshawn's gonna throw it, you

1037
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: know times designed per game. Now you're not putting unnecessary

1038
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: wear and tear on Nick Chubb. Amen. I don't think

1039
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: we need to grind up Nick Chubb. We said that

1040
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: last week against Houston in the second hand. Just keep

1041
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: slinging it. Yes to me, this is all about Deshaun Watson.

1042
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: He made a quarter of a billion dollar investment into

1043
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. It wasn't just for the season. In fact,

1044
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: once that suspension changed and the judge was overruled from

1045
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: six to eleven, this season became a long shot. That's

1046
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: the reality of the situation. None of us wanted it

1047
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: to be that because we were tantalized. It could have

1048
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: been better, and it probably should have been better, but

1049
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: that was the reality. And we are I heard Riz

1050
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: say earlier today, and he's right. We're playing in some

1051
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: ways preseason offense against teams that are playing week fourteen

1052
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: offense and week four teen defense. And that's that's the truth.

1053
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: But that being said, that's the sit situation we were in.

1054
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: We entered into that situation we got I think hosed

1055
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: by the league a little bit. But now over these

1056
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: final four games, it's let's see this offense do everything

1057
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: we can with Shaun Watson, get him live, looks at

1058
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: everything that we can assess who in the Deshaun Watson

1059
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 1: offense that we're going to be, who's gonna be here?

1060
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: What do we need to make this offense truly click

1061
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: the way that it's capable of. What do we have

1062
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: in Jerome Ford? Is he capable of being our true

1063
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: number two back and somebody behind Nick Chubb? Because it's

1064
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: unlikely that Kareem Hunt would be back next year. You know,

1065
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: de Ernest Johnson, does he still have what he showed

1066
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: last year? Things like that and find this stuff out

1067
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: that That's what's dot is Mike Woods. Can Mike Woods

1068
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: make place on a consistent basis for us? I think

1069
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: we know the guys that can't, so who can? And

1070
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: then what do we need if these guys some of

1071
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: the guys we currently have are not good enough. It's

1072
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: about Deshaun Watson at this point. And that's not to

1073
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: take anything away from any of the other players, defense, offense,

1074
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: all of it. But that's what this is about. This

1075
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: is a team that is going to be much as

1076
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: you've said, the Bengals have become Joe Burrows team, and

1077
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: he sets the culture, he sets the tone all of that.

1078
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: The Browns are gonna become Deshaun Watson's team going in

1079
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: the next season, fully, and we need to know what

1080
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: that looks like. Who's who we want going along for

1081
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: that ride, and what we need to do to be

1082
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: able to win this division sadly for the first time ever.

1083
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: And that's where these four games are about. Yeah, it

1084
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: really is that. It's a, UM, it's kind of a

1085
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: four game audition for next season. What players fit, what

1086
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: schemes fit? Uh? What does Watson do with our guys best?

1087
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: Who guys who plays off of him best? Um? This

1088
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: is you know, three guys and well two dudes in

1089
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: a hop sit on the radio talking. But so it's

1090
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: different from the people in the room. You know, they're

1091
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: not thinking like that, Joe. They're they're winning every game.

1092
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: We still got a shot at the playoffs. Keep grinding

1093
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: all of that and by the way, you can still

1094
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: do all of that well and leashing him like he

1095
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,240
Speaker 1: is at his best, a top five quarterback in this league.

1096
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: We are job in my view over the next four

1097
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: is to get him back to that at all costs.

1098
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: That's that's the only job that that is it, and

1099
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: you should win with that. This schedule is really manageable

1100
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: here to close the stretch, you should be able to

1101
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: win every single one of these games. My hunches would

1102
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: be favored in them all, considering the Baltimore situation, will

1103
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: be favored over the Ravens. I think we'd be favored

1104
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: over the Saints Washington, that would be if he on

1105
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: the road, and then Pittsburgh will probably be close because

1106
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: it's the steps and they're all very winnable. Absolutely certainly

1107
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: won't be significant underdogs in any of them. No, No,

1108
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: it'll be I'm guessing as we do guess the lines.

1109
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: Everything will be within three the rest of the way,

1110
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: either either four or against. I still want to win

1111
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: these games. I think it's very important to win. They're

1112
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: not Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. I think, in fact,

1113
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: here should be able to spin it with four a

1114
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: lot and get the best out of him and get

1115
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: the best out of the people around him while winning.

1116
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: Those two things should marry very If they don't, then

1117
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: you have your questions in the offseason. In my view right,

1118
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: and I think they will marry very nicely, you know,

1119
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: Donovan people Jones, And it's coincidence. Second game with Deshaun

1120
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: Watson career high in receiving fourteen yards. Never get never

1121
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: done that for I think that there are guys it's

1122
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: clear that this is going to benefit guys that are

1123
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: certainly worthy of, you know, taking forward to the next level,

1124
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: giving more opportunities to and that's that's what this is about.

1125
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: And I think Deshaun Watson certainly can carry you twins. Yeah,

1126
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: of course you still run the ball, but there's no

1127
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: reason to try to go out and grind out a

1128
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: twelve nine game with thirty Nick Chubb carries. That just

1129
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: is no point for that, and it doesn't help him

1130
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: and it doesn't help us. Absolutely, That's exactly the point.

1131
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: That is the key. You're not prematurely wearing out Nick

1132
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 1: Chubb to try to win a game seven, and you're

1133
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: also knocking the rust off to Shaun Watson and starting

1134
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: to develop the players around him as he's feeling comfortable

1135
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: within this offense with these guys, is developing that connection

1136
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: for the next season so that you're starting to build

1137
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: momentum into the off season, because, let's be honest, you

1138
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: said it earlier, Deshaun Watson wasn't brought here to win

1139
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: and get to the playoffs in two. This was a

1140
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: multi year decision, three, four or five years, and to

1141
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: be able to get the most out of him, you

1142
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: need to get him up to speed as fast as

1143
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: possible and then start finding the creative type offensive looks

1144
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: that we feel he is going to be the best

1145
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: at within this offense. And I think while you can

1146
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: get some of that in the off season running against

1147
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: your own guys or in training camp, the best looks

1148
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: are gonna be when you're going against the defense that's

1149
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: trying to stop you because their playoff lives are on

1150
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: the line. Hey, let's roll out some plays that you know,

1151
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,959
Speaker 1: we've drawn up on the chalkboard and we've gone through

1152
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: uh a few times during practice, but we don't know

1153
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like because we haven't seen it

1154
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: on film. We haven't seen Deshan running against another color jersey. Yeah,

1155
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: let's let's go take a shot with some of those things,

1156
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, make it difficult on that offense because they

1157
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: don't know what's coming. Give people to think something something

1158
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: about all offseason about how Deshaun Watson and how they're

1159
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: how Deshaun Watson is gonna look, and how they're gonna

1160
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: be able to defend all the different things that he does. Agreed, Agreed,

1161
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that one of the things

1162
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: too is I'd like to even in the red zone

1163
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: in particular, right get creative with DeShawn Watson. I like,

1164
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: we are a very good running team, but the first

1165
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: time we got down there in the red zone, we

1166
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: ran it on first down and second down and we

1167
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: ended up basically like third and goal from the six.

1168
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: And that's a that's a tough spot. Compressed field. You

1169
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: have sixteen yards to work with to try to fit

1170
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: the ball, and that's a tough thing to do. Um.

1171
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: It was interesting getting and getting ready for this game.

1172
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: I was listening to the week before, which was Bengals

1173
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: and Chiefs, and it was Nance and Romo, and Romo

1174
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: was saying that Brian Callahan and Zach Taylor every weekend.

1175
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: Callahan is their offensive coordinator since he watched every red

1176
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: zone touchdown. He watches every red zone touchdown from the

1177
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: week four, so he has a basically catalog of every

1178
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: red zone touchdown play in the league, in the league

1179
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: and then incorporates a lot of that, and it's no coincidence.

1180
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: Since Week four, the Bengals have the most red zone

1181
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the NFL. They've been one of the best

1182
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: red zone team, and I think that's something. Let's get

1183
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 1: creative in the red zone. Let's get creative all over

1184
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: and give these things to the sean figure out what

1185
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: works what doesn't. But put just put the game in

1186
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: his hands down there, you know, and put the game

1187
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: in his hands in general, because that's what you're going

1188
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: to do ultimately, and give a look to a Jerome Ford.

1189
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: I just don't think Nick Chubb is so good, and

1190
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: he's you know, second in league in rushing second and

1191
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. I don't know if he's still a second

1192
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: after this game. He might have dropped back a little

1193
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: because Henry went over a hundred yards, so he might

1194
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: have dropped down to third because Jacobs, I think had

1195
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 1: a big game as well, so he's probably third. Jacobs

1196
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: is right around. So it's nice to get rushing titles

1197
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: and all of that, but I mean, you want him,

1198
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: there's no reason just put unnecessary wear and tear on him.

1199
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting you shut him down. I'm just saying

1200
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: that the focus should be on Watson and figuring out

1201
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: what works best and even what works best for Nick

1202
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: with Watson. The thing that's driving me nuts and half

1203
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: you can speak to this way better than I can.

1204
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: Is it people are acting like we are are not

1205
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: a good eleven personnel running team or a good shotgun

1206
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: running team. And for the majority of the season, Nick

1207
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: Chubb was number one league in yards per carry with

1208
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: eleven personnel and out of the shotgun, So we actually

1209
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: are good at that. It just things have changed on

1210
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: our line and we're not as good up front as

1211
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: we were earlier. And I think why it's clearly banged up. Yeah,

1212
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: that that hurts you. But also I think when de

1213
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: Shaun's in there trying to figure out, Hey, is he

1214
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to be comfortable running the football

1215
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: out of a pistol? Is he better running it out

1216
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: of the shotgun? Like, quarterbacks have a big impact on

1217
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: the running game that people don't realize, not only when

1218
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: they have the football and they're pulling it on zone

1219
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: reads or RPOs and things like that, but the fakes

1220
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: that they pull off and how that affects the defense

1221
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: because the defense is thinking, hey, it might be a

1222
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: play action play action pass. So like how you affect

1223
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: the backside of defensive ends when you're running outside zone, Um,

1224
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: whether you're in the shotgun or the pistol, and whether

1225
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: that running backs offset or or if he's right behind

1226
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: you and the dot like that affects the angles of

1227
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: the runs. And so just figuring out what is this

1228
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: offense comfortable with, what do they do the best? I

1229
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: think is the most important thing we're gonna do down

1230
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: the stretch. Yeah, I think you've got a good look

1231
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: at that. On the touchdown to David and Joke, are

1232
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: only offensive touchdown was a great plack and great ball

1233
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: handling where he turns his back completely to the defense,

1234
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: nobody knew where he had it, and by the time

1235
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: he spun around Chief was able to outflank the coverage

1236
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: and and get into the end zone. I thought that

1237
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: was a good creative play, kind of speaking to that.

1238
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of talent, we have not executed

1239
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: the level that we should this year, and I think

1240
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: that that needs to be a big part of kind

1241
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: of these four games, the evaluation of and then this

1242
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: offseason is why have we been at times? Why has

1243
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: the whole been less than the sum of the parts. Yeah, yeah,

1244
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: that's that rolling in the same direction stuff that that's

1245
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: that's all has to be there, certainly. Um yeah, it's

1246
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: it's you know you mentioned that the screen where that's

1247
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: snuffed out and he makes the laid down the field.

1248
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: That's who he is, you know, that's the stuff that

1249
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 1: he can do. We we the r P O game

1250
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: with him is going to be so brutal to stop.

1251
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: And that's something that I think you'll see more and

1252
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: more of as we go along. What made Deshaun Watson

1253
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: so great in Houston was his ability to win in

1254
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: structure and on time, in rhythm, but then his ability

1255
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: to make game changing plays out of structure. And we

1256
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: saw a couple I thought game changing chunk plays in

1257
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: this one out of structure. And that's that's what he brings.

1258
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: That's what the great quarterbacks in the league today do.

1259
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: Saw Mahomes yesterday one of the most absurd touchdowns you're

1260
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: ever gonna see against the Denver Broncos. But that's what

1261
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: these the great quarterbacks do. And Burrow did that against

1262
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: us where he where he busted out of the pocket

1263
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: and then basically waited for the guy to commit. Commit,

1264
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: And that's you put defenses in conflict. You forced him

1265
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: to make decisions in a split second, and often as

1266
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback that works out. Watson did it on the screen,

1267
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: but it was the same thing, defender and conflict. Are

1268
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: you covering? Are you coming up and getting me? And

1269
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: then you're able to make a play out of that,

1270
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: And Burrow, don't let the ten yards rushing full you.

1271
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: He scored rushing touchdown five of the last nine games.

1272
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: Now he rushed for forty something yards against the Chiefs.

1273
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: He uses his legs to extend plays with the idea

1274
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: of throwing it. But he is very dangerous and that's

1275
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: what is extending plays, getting out of sacks, turning negatives

1276
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: into positives, or even sometimes turning a negative play into

1277
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: a no play, which is just as valuable. Certainly. So

1278
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: all right, coming up next, we'll go around wild. Scores

1279
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: were not kind, not kind, No, not not at all.

1280
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: It was a right weekend for the scores. I got

1281
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: a chance on Monday night to be I think seven

1282
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: and six, which, oh my god, I'm like three and nine.

1283
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: I think I think yea four yea four. It was brutal, brutal,

1284
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: brutal week across the board. Um, a lot of stuff

1285
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: you didn't didn't see happening, did It was strange Big

1286
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: Covers almost lost while Houston was going to cover. We

1287
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: knew it. We said, this is the dumbest thing that

1288
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: we're ever doing. Dallas like a bunch of dopes. Well,

1289
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: Kansas City was up twenty seven and nothing, and didn't

1290
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: that one hurt? How did that go? That doesn't work well?

1291
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: And one of the things, because I do think that

1292
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: what you're I do wonder if there is one singular

1293
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: offensive genius in this league. We'll get to that as well.

1294
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: Listen to Cleveland Brown's Daily Budge by bally Bet coming

1295
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: su Ohi on eight fifty. Yes, we had Cleveland m

1296
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you by Valley Bed coming

1297
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on ESPN. Cleveland nothing quite like tailgating

1298
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns and twisted teatas just like realized t You know

1299
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: why because it's made with real browd t cool, refreshing,

1300
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: a five percent kick of alcohol. It's third down and

1301
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: gold twisted te hard iiced tea. Keep it twisted as

1302
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: we go around the National Football League. Gibb wants us

1303
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: give you your two top teams in the NFL right now,

1304
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: and why We'll start with the Huff Kansas City. Yeah,

1305
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: Philly Kansas City because of the Homes. You know, there's

1306
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: never a game where you ever panick, no matter what

1307
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: the score is, when you got my Homes. I mean,

1308
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: he's playing as the m v P of the league

1309
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: right now. I know Jalen Hurts has something to say

1310
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: about that out and Josh Allen, But to me, if

1311
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: you say, all right, you're the first pick in an

1312
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: expansion draft and you can take anybody in the NFL,

1313
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: I think Mahomes is the guy that goes. I think

1314
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of become like what it was like with

1315
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: Lebron in the NBA, Like you could give him m

1316
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: v P every year because everyone would pick him first,

1317
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: but you can't give him the NBPA here, so we

1318
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: come up with other creative people to give it to.

1319
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: It's like Belichick, right, you should have been the Coach

1320
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: of the Year every year for like fifteen years, but

1321
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: you get sick of it. Then you kind of on,

1322
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, here's something else, and somebody like beats your expectations.

1323
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: By you know a lot like Jalen Hurts is right now,

1324
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: and then you want to give them maybe some some

1325
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: props for it. Um and then the Eagles, because offensively

1326
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: they can do whatever. You don't try to stop them

1327
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: from doing. So if you're saying, hey, we're worried about

1328
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts that run game, they'll they'll light you up

1329
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: on the outside with those receivers. If you try to

1330
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: play coverage and you try to double those receivers, they'll

1331
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: just murder you with their giant offensive line, and they're

1332
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: gonna just run the ball forty five times and and

1333
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: pound you into the dirt. So they can beat you

1334
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: anyway they want to on offense. So it gives them multiplicity,

1335
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: which is what it takes to win in the playoffs.

1336
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: And their defense is is nasty. Like their defensive line

1337
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: they've been great forever. They're filthy. Their defensive backs are

1338
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: getting healthy so they can play zone, they can play

1339
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: man coverage like they're the they're the team that can

1340
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: do it all. We saw it when they were here.

1341
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: They were going to be pretty darn formidable. And by

1342
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: the way, that offense is doing this without Dallas Goddard

1343
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: and they're about to get Dallas Goddard back, who can

1344
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: win one on ones, is a very productive tight end.

1345
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: My top two teams in the NFL right now are

1346
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and now, oh my gosh with brock Purty,

1347
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: Mr Purty. Brock Purty just beat Tom Brady thirty five

1348
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: to seven. That's right, the forty Niners. And how, by

1349
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: the way, how does Pedro feel about Debot running dives?

1350
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: He's furious every My dad blames every injury that's ever

1351
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: happened on Kyle. They're all Kyles, your dad and Gibbey

1352
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: have a lot so much in common. I'm like, they're

1353
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: playing football, Dad, like it's football. Go give it to

1354
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: McCaffrey anymore. Do you want him to be productive? He's

1355
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: got to play football and touch the ball to be productive.

1356
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: The Niners Rams Week eight, so after they lose to

1357
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, which is why the Chiefs are number one.

1358
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: RAMS week that was still Stafford, still Cooper Cup still

1359
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: a decent Rams operationeen Chargers, good offense hold them to sixteen. Cardinals,

1360
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: good offense hold them to ten shut out the Saints.

1361
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: Not a good offense. Dolphins at the time, hottest offense

1362
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: in the league, hold them to seventeen, Bucks hold them

1363
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: to seven. They have not given up more than seventeen

1364
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: points in six straight games. That goes back to the

1365
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: eighties as the last time they did that. When the

1366
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: people forget how good the Niners defenses were on those

1367
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: teams with Joe Montana as well, their defense is awesome.

1368
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: They are nine and four. I believe they will beat

1369
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: the Seahawks on Thursday night. They have the Commanders, the

1370
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: Raiders and the Cardinals the rest of the way. There's

1371
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: no reason why it seemed could be thirteen and four.

1372
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: Their defense, I think is the best in the league.

1373
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: Probably the right answer is the Eagles. But what they're

1374
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: doing is sensational and for Brock Purty to go in

1375
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: there and look like and I'll tell you a lot

1376
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: of the guys on this team told me that the

1377
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: Bucks d was the best deed that we had played

1378
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: this year, and he annihilated them. There's a sixteen two

1379
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: touchdowns note picks Kyle, But that that got to the point.

1380
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: I think I think he's like the one true offensive

1381
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: genius because he's never had other than the Ryan year.

1382
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: But look what happen to Ryan after he left. Like

1383
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: he's never had like an extended period with a dude quarterback,

1384
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: Like there hasn't been that many of them. If they

1385
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: had just stayed there in drafted fields, they could have

1386
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: used the pick that they could have Tyreek Hill Fields

1387
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: and Bradley Chubb on that team right now. Yeah, Yeah,

1388
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: cautionary tale right there about mortgaging the future for undraft

1389
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: unknown draft pick one start one year in one story.

1390
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: Too much uncertainty when you're doing it in the draft

1391
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: versus trading for a player that's played in the NFL

1392
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,439
Speaker 1: and you can watch him against the NFL talent, say

1393
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: good not good? Yeah? What do you guys? Um? You

1394
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: know this Philly team, it's it's one thing in this league.

1395
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: I've been skeptical of them just because of their schedule

1396
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: has been very manageable. You know, they haven't had to

1397
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: play the better teams in the league. They they beat

1398
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: Dallas the first time they didn't have Dak. They have

1399
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: Dallas in a couple of weeks here, uh, coming up.

1400
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: They'll get the Bears this week with no, i mean

1401
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: absolute carcass of the Bears team. They've finished at Cowboys

1402
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: in two weeks, and then it's Saints and Giants like

1403
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna go fifteen and two at worst if they

1404
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: lose in Dallas. It's it. They haven't really faced any adversity.

1405
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: They haven't had to chase games. They score quick and

1406
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: it's done. There's one or two occasions this year where

1407
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: they would get down, even a touchdown, and then they

1408
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: almost immediately make it right back up. They've they've really

1409
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: never had to go off script and it reminds me

1410
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I'm and it's just because you

1411
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: gotta see it. You gotta see it. They have way

1412
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: more weapons than the team of Gona mention. But there

1413
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: the year that Lamar won the MVP with Baltimore when

1414
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: they were fourteen and two. I think that year, and

1415
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: it was like everything went their way. They were ahead

1416
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: in every game, and then all of a sudden, the

1417
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: playoffs got punched in the mouth, and oh what do

1418
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: we do here? And I don't know if that's just

1419
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: being skeptical, if it's fair. They have more weapons in

1420
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: that Baltimore teams with that we haven't that we haven't

1421
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: seen them have to. I mean, you go look at

1422
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: through this. I mean it's there was a game early

1423
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville where they got down a couple of touchdowns

1424
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: and came back in one. But there's not that many

1425
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: examples of them being behind and having to chase. They

1426
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: just haven't had to because I've been so great out

1427
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: of the games last three weeks. And you want to

1428
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: talk about the m v P of this league, maybe

1429
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman for crying out loud. I mean that guy,

1430
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: I mean a J. Brown. He gets he gets the

1431
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 1: Devanta Smith. They go up to get him in front

1432
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: of New York and New York was taking a receiver

1433
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: and they go up and get him in front of it,

1434
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: and they got all these picks still coming. I mean,

1435
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: they're just it's really set up. And then and then

1436
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: they there'sn't anybody who thought Jay and Hurts would be

1437
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: this nobody. He's been sensational. This was the stretch where

1438
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: they were really good. So they lose the Commanders on

1439
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: Monday Night football Week ten, and then if you remember,

1440
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: they were down big to the Colts in that game

1441
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: and came back. They were down t three going into

1442
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in Indie, looking like they could lose

1443
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: back to back games, and they came back and one

1444
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: it Hurts rain in a touchdown with a minute left,

1445
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: and since then then they've been just swamp City the

1446
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: rest of the way. Um yeah, I like Kansas City,

1447
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: I like Philly, I like San Francisco, and I like

1448
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: the Bengals. And those are the four that I think

1449
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: separate because Buffalo is not sharp person. Neither of the

1450
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: three of us said Buffalo. They're not everybody's unanimous pick

1451
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season to win the Super Bowl.

1452
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: They're not. I'll tell you if I'm the Pagoulas, I

1453
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: put a dome on that sucker right now because they

1454
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 1: are a dome team. They have built a dome roster.

1455
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: I know they're building that new stadium. Thing looks great.

1456
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: I would I would make it a climb controlled because

1457
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: they're better in a dome. Dave Davis has not broken

1458
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: out the way that they needed to tell me as

1459
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: the second opposite, the second opposite nice Between that and

1460
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: the te Higgins late notice on that not gonna Oh

1461
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: my god. In the last week of the regular season,

1462
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: that's twice they've been met with him this year where

1463
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: they've had him active. He played one snap and SATs

1464
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: against Baltimore. Would say last week in the regular season,

1465
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: that is so mean. Spirit I was pointing out on

1466
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: the brocks. Wait a second, Jim said, as soon as

1467
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: Boyd went out, you'd say, okay, for sure they're going

1468
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: to get him in there. He wasn't in again. He

1469
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: played on the first third down play of the game.

1470
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: That was it yea, and he just stood there. Yeah,

1471
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: all sorts of consequence of that, But what is what

1472
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: is the deal in Buffalo? Like they it feels like

1473
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: offensively every Allen doesn't look like how we looked last year.

1474
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: He turns it over a lot um. They're not able

1475
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,879
Speaker 1: to get that separation and it's just kind of a struggle.

1476
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: They're still really good. They they handled their business against

1477
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: the Jets with the Jets did cover as we as

1478
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: we thought that they would. But now that it feels

1479
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Speaker 1: like they just haven't taken that step show. Yeah. I

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01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: think it's because Josh Allen is still making enough big

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01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: plays and enough wild place to overcome the mistakes that

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01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: he's making in the red zone and with the turnovers.

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01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: But eventually, when you play a good team in the playoffs,

1484
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: those mistakes are too big to overcome, even for a

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01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: player like Josh Allen who can do so much and

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01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: do so many exciting things outside of the structure of

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01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: their offense. But in the end, like you have to

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01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: be good in the red zone and you have to

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01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: be able to play mistake free football, especially when the

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01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: weather gets bad in January. And so I think that

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01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: was one reason why I didn't include them amongst my

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01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: two favorite teams in the NFL. Um is because there's

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01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: these other teams that are playing good football and able

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01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: to make big plays outside of the structure of their

1495
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: offense or their their defense can win in different ways,

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01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: and I just don't see Buffalo being that chameleon. Like

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01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: It's like Josh Allen has to make an amazing play

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01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: or they can't win. Ye. No, that's that's very accurate.

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Speaker 1: By the way, did you see the line up for

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: tonight's Manning cast? No? I have not. What's the game

1501
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: tonight Arizona, New England. Who do they got? Guest number one?

1502
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna be tuning in Joe Burrow Joe football.

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01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:20,480
Speaker 1: That's interesting. How about that guest number two? Bill Simmons,

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01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: Guest number three Keegan Michael Key. Then they wrap it

1505
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: up with Adam vine Terry, which is the falls off.

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01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: The first will be fun Burrow, Simmons keeping Michael Key

1507
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 1: will be great to be good. Yeah, well, I mean

1508
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: at the end, like Benettieri at this point. Yeah, they'll

1509
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: just talk about Manning as a Colts quarterback and yeah,

1510
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: don't tell Manning stories. But yeah, Burrow and Simmons, Joe

1511
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 1: Burrow will do well at that and Simmons will be great. Yeah,

1512
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: that'll be that'll be pretty strong. Alright, real quick, gentlemen,

1513
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: these are quick kitterers buying or selling. You buying Dallas, Z.

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: You're buying Dallas struggled at home? Of course, I buy

1515
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: buy Dallas. I a lot of injuries on the defense man,

1516
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: that's the thing. But secondaries, they need to be healthy.

1517
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: They're going to the playoffs, so they just need to

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01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: be healthy for the playoffs. And right now they would

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01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: be the five against Tampa Bay, which at Tampa Bay

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: is what that would be. And there they need to

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01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: be five against Tampa. They're gonna be five against Carolina.

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 1: Uh hu, Miami. Back to back losses out in California,

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01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 1: they stayed out there. You buying or selling the Dolphins.

1524
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm selling right now because this is kind of that

1525
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: slump that all teams go through that have sort of

1526
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: a meteorc rise, new offense, new look to UH teams

1527
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: start to figure out, Okay, what can't they handle right

1528
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: which the last couple of weeks. Let's play tight press coverage.

1529
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 1: Let's beat up those receivers. Let's make to a hold

1530
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: onto the football, not give them those big chunk play

1531
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: opportunities where guys are running wide open in the middle

1532
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: of the field, and see how else they can beat us.

1533
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: They haven't been able to do it in two weeks,

1534
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: so to be interesting to see if they can have

1535
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 1: another step and morph into a better version of themselves,

1536
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: to be able to overcome how these teams are playing

1537
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: them and part of it to Waddle has been hurt

1538
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. And two of them is better

1539
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: than one of them. You know what I mean in

1540
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: terms of the speed, you can double triple Tyreek Hill

1541
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: and now without Wattle. Okay, just Shufield gonna beat me.

1542
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 1: He picks up the fumble shot out of a cannon

1543
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, so he's the first. It's like as soon

1544
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: as he gets to hear he almost ran out of

1545
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: his own shoes. It was like a roadrunner cartoon thing

1546
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: like he almost he almost lost his own. He was

1547
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: going so fast even he wasn't prepared for it. So

1548
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: he's the first guy in the modern era that has

1549
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: scored a receiving touchdown, a rushing touchdown, a kick return,

1550
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: a punt return, and a fumble recovery touchdown, all of

1551
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: more than fifty yards. That's crazy. Aren't even remember when

1552
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: he was a returner in Kansas City. Rights been pretty

1553
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: good at Detroit. The Rabbit man, Man, I'm buying you

1554
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: were my surprise playoff team. I think we got that

1555
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: him in, didn't we Ye? Yeah? I think so. Um,

1556
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: it's uphill for them. They basically there six and seven.

1557
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: They've won what five out of their last seven games.

1558
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: Goff's been great. He's actually been better than Cousins and

1559
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: Brady both Um. He's he They are six and seven,

1560
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: so they the teams that they have to have falter

1561
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 1: are Washington and the Giants. They're both seven five and one,

1562
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: so you just need losses there to stack for them.

1563
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: They get the Jets this week. That's a big one.

1564
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: They gotta win that. Jamison Williams welcome to the NFL.

1565
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: Forty yards and yeah, but then why they felt like

1566
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: he's hardly playing? He had had a hundred and seventy

1567
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: already scored forty one year a touchdown. Yesterday he had

1568
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: a forty one yard touch on did he rushing, didn't he?

1569
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: Or hunter yard receiving in the game. He was looking

1570
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: early and like after that first catch, I was like,

1571
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: all right, he's back, and then I'm pretty sure he did,

1572
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: although maybe not. I saw him get the first one.

1573
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: I thought he got. I thought he ended up catching

1574
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: some more from them. Um huh. Chargers buying or selling

1575
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 1: there now seven and six on the season. I'm buying

1576
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: them because of Justin Herbert and what he's doing right now.

1577
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: Right like, he's playing as well as any quarterback in

1578
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 1: the NFL, and he's allowing them to overcome a lot

1579
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: of mistakes and more than anything, they just got their

1580
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: full compliment of receivers back, and so now he's able

1581
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: fully express the talent and ability that he has because

1582
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: he's got his studs back on the outside. He had

1583
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: two times Williams to targets, one catch, forty one touch

1584
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: and only played thirteen snaps. Like I'm ready give him go,

1585
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: let him meet, Let's go, yeah, let him go. Let

1586
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: the kid go. This from Peter King Football morning in America,

1587
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: the Panthers went out. They win the a f C

1588
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: NFC South most to wild card game, likely as the

1589
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 1: number four seed Panthers don't play a winning team in

1590
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: the last four weeks. Though the Lions are playing like

1591
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: the sixty seven Packers right now, the NFC South might

1592
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: just be them. O. Let me ask you this, Are

1593
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 1: we sure that the Niners want Tom Brady next year? Well? No,

1594
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't not after what you've what know,

1595
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I don't know. Maybe it's would be

1596
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: hard to say no. I mean, you can't. This brock

1597
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: Purty thing is not gonna He's not gonna keep doing this,

1598
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 1: Mr Irrelevant, keep doing this be crazy. I know we

1599
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 1: get excited about a fun, feel good story like brock Purty,

1600
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: but I think if you're evaluating the last two games

1601
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: for Brady and the last two games for Party, I'm

1602
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 1: guessing that Brady probably would have been able to do

1603
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: all of those things and probably so he's missing. Though,

1604
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: to be fair, Simmons and the CUZ said it reminded

1605
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 1: him of his last year in New England, where everything

1606
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 1: went wrong and he just out of structure, feet wrong,

1607
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: arm angles, wrong, like everything wrong. You can't get the

1608
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: ball to Mike Evans. Yeah, they can't figure that out,

1609
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: they can't run it, they can't all of those things.

1610
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: So um yeah, all right, we'll go around the a

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Speaker 1: f C North. Coming up next to us to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns Daily brought you by Bally Bet coming soon Ohio

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Speaker 1: Serious lawyer, serious injuries called one hit at Elkhio for

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Speaker 1: a free case for you. Elkins Proun, partner of your

1617
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. As we take a look at the a

1618
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: f C North. After Week fourteen, Ravens and Bengals both

1619
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: the top at nine and four US in the Steelers

1620
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: five and eight um heading into this final four game stretch.

1621
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: The Ravens win in Pittsburgh sixteen to fourteen. Pickett left

1622
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 1: the game early in the first quarter with concussion. Mitch

1623
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: Robinsky was in through the three picks to seventy six,

1624
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: and in relief of that, Tyler Huntley exited a game

1625
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: with a concussion as well. Um after they hit from

1626
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 1: making Fitzpatrick, Anthony Brown entered in relief of that one.

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01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: This is I don't think this is a stretch or

1628
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: anything hot ticket sh It's the Bengals division. I mean

1629
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: that's there. Yea healthy quarterback. They're crafty. They are crafty. Yeah,

1630
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 1: win at the buzzer against Denver, hold on to beat

1631
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers. We can always do that. Last year they did.

1632
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: They just know how to win. They do. They know

1633
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: how to win. It's crazy, but it's um if you

1634
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: look it is, it's there. It's the Bengals. I mean

1635
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: the Bengals play for the Bengals to beat us without

1636
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: two thousand yards of receiving talent, go, it is the

1637
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: Bengals of it. They are the best team in the definitively.

1638
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: The Ravens have us. It's the easiest thing you've ever

1639
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: seen in your life. The Steelers then the Bengals Week

1640
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: eight team. They currently hold the tiebreaker over the Bengals.

1641
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: Now do Cincinnati do you have it up? Yeah? They

1642
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: play what well, the Bucks aren't much, but they play

1643
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: the Bills at Pat's home for the Bills, home for

1644
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens. So, I mean it feels like both could

1645
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: go three and one. They're right. I think Cincinnati's feeling

1646
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: like they could be playing for In their view, they

1647
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: could be playing for the one seed in the a

1648
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: f C against Buffalo because they have the eyebreaker with

1649
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: Kansas City already. So I'll be playing for the one

1650
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: seed in the a f C when they play Buffalo

1651
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 1: in the second to last week, and they'll be playing

1652
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: for the North in the last game of the regular season.

1653
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: The Patriots, who stink, are the That's the scary one

1654
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: for them, right that Belichick cooks something up and has

1655
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: one of those wacky games. Yeah, I just don't know

1656
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: if it feels like with Reader in the middle, if

1657
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: he's healthy, they won't be able to run it. And yeah,

1658
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: you know, if they alread get healthy at receiver, they're

1659
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to do it the way that

1660
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 1: Boyd's gonna miss. I think Boyd's gonna miss at least

1661
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: one at least one game. They said, Auntie Higgins, who

1662
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 1: knows that was that's brutal. You can't do that. You

1663
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: gotta just go ahead and say the guys inactive, you

1664
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: can't do that to people. There's too much going on

1665
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: in the world. Fancy football, like that's not okay, I

1666
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: mean quite Frankly, we're about really legal gambling in the

1667
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: state of Ohio. That's a big deal. Yeah, Tie Higgins

1668
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: isn't gonna play. That's a that's why they have injury reports, guys.

1669
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: And he didn't. If I'm not mistaken, he did not

1670
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: carry a designation into the game. No, did not, because

1671
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: I was I have him. I mean, he was, he

1672
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: was all he was all in and and then to

1673
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: not play him as was was pretty wild to say

1674
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: the least. We will have the Ravens here on Saturday.

1675
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: Head coach Jim Harbaugh remaining optimistic during his press conference

1676
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: after the game that Huntley will be able to play

1677
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: on Saturday in absence of Lamar Jackson. Um Man, that's

1678
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: you never know with that, he said, quote, he seems

1679
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: good to me. We'll see how it goes. We trust

1680
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: the Docks on that end, and they'll do a good

1681
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: job with it whatever it is. If Tyler can go,

1682
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: he'll be there, Anthony will be back him up. If

1683
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: it can't, Anthony will be playing and Brett will be

1684
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: backing him up. Um And so there there you go

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Speaker 1: on that front. And Lamar is still a couple of

1686
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: beats me. You don't know either. No, I don't have nothing.

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01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,879
Speaker 1: Usually I can give you a college rookie from Oregon.

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01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:48,440
Speaker 1: Just looked it up. Six undrafted doesn't have draft status,

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming he was undrafted. I don't remember see

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01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: him at following them, but he was. So he did

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Speaker 1: he replace Herbert? He was the transfer He transferred from

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01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: Boston College to Oregon. Um. Yeah, he's the backup to

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01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: a kid named Tyler Show made his first appearance in

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01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve championship game. Um. Yeah, not much there

1695
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: yards is last yeart Oorgan eighteen touchdown, seven picks. They

1696
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 1: weren't very good that year. Um. Trying to think he

1697
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: would have been. He probably would have been the quarterback

1698
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 1: of record when they beat Ohio State. Would that be right?

1699
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: He might have been with the backs they went into

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01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: the shoe and beat Ohio State in like week two,

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01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: Week one or week two a year ago. He could

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01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: have been that. Um but yeah, not look that does

1703
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: it almost doesn't matter to them though. But by the way,

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01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: when you think of them, they got Dobbins back and

1705
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: that was a big deal. Yeah, over what over a

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01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 1: hundred yards touchdown for them? They got Dobbins and you

1707
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: got Gus Edwards and I mean they're gonna grind it.

1708
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: You talk about team that is interested in grinding it out,

1709
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: that's what they have done their last three victories. Listen

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01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: to these numbers since they're bye week. They beat the

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01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: Anther's thirteen to three, They beat the Broncos ten to nine,

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01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: and they beat the Steelers sixteen to fourteen. I mean,

1713
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: this is not a juggernaut by any stretch of the imagination. Yeah,

1714
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown was the quarterback in Columbus. He went seventeen

1715
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: thirty five to thirty six, two scores. They ran it

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01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: all over in that one. He can can he can,

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01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: he can run it to But yeah, it's just kind

1718
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: of it's one of those ones for us that get Look,

1719
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: it's been a minute since we've been at home a

1720
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 1: couple of games. Out to Shaun Watson's home debut off.

1721
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: What do you anticipate that being like for him? What's

1722
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: the weather? Yeah, that's a good question. I'm interested to see,

1723
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, how Deshaun Watson gets comfortable playing in the elements, right,

1724
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: Because that's always one thing that you are interested or

1725
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: concerned with a little bit when you've got a quarterback

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01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: that's played his entire career down south and hasn't experienced

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01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: the wicked weather that we sometimes get in the shores

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01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 1: of Lake Erie. And it looks like there's a chance

1729
01:23:55,680 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: for some precipitation, maybe some flurry, little breezy third two.

1730
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be cold, it's gonna be windy. Uh.

1731
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: It's his first opportunity to really obviously play in front

1732
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns fans with an orange helmet, but

1733
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: also playing in some really adverse conditions in a game

1734
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,799
Speaker 1: that the Ravens would be happy, like you were saying,

1735
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: to maybe try to grind it out with a lot

1736
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: of handoffs to their running backs, especially if they're down

1737
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: to their third string guy. So, um, what kind of

1738
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 1: test what we're talking about giving Deshaun Watson opportunity to

1739
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: open it up and thirty eight mile in our wind

1740
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 1: gusts potential. They don't know that yet. Let's be sadness.

1741
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: It's Monday, little early still, but little early. But that

1742
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 1: built dome domes, domes, domes, domes. I'm big dome guy.

1743
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 1: Give me the domes. Every time I say that, they

1744
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: always do get furious. That's not football. It sounds like

1745
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: perfect condition football. It sounds like if you skill take over,

1746
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: if you have a Ferrari, keep it on the highway.

1747
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: There's no reason to offer oat it exactly. Keep it

1748
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: on the highway, brother, And there's ways do it. You

1749
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: do the grass and grow grass indoors. It's you got

1750
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: It's yeah, do it. Let's do it. I gotta do it.

1751
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: Um gonna be a fun one down there on Saturday

1752
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,799
Speaker 1: that we have a Monday night football score coming up next.

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Speaker 1: this weekend, charitable work at any part of this week

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Speaker 1: in town. It's always joyful when I get to be

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Speaker 1: in the studio with you. Find gentlemen, even in tough

1765
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: environment like today, after a loss, hard thought loss. It's uh,

1766
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: it's still great to see you guys in person. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is the joy and Z he's gonna push me

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Speaker 1: in the white room. After this, we're gonna throw the

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Speaker 1: prison weights around a little bit of fun. Watch the

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Speaker 1: back traction for like away is the back to stay

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Speaker 1: away from the back. I saw you stretching it earlier.

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Speaker 1: A little stretch every now and then a little little tight,

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Speaker 1: little tight flights, plane flights, and hotel beds are top.

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Speaker 1: Hotel beds gonna be tough, especially if you get a

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Speaker 1: bad pillow. Well that's what it is. Soft. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you something right now, folks. Okay, hotel years out

1777
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Speaker 1: there too, mushy thin pillows the same one, good pillow,

1778
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Speaker 1: Just put one out there. There's no help. There's no

1779
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Speaker 1: happy medium there. It's either it's the big boy, the

1780
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Speaker 1: big extra fluffy thing. That's not but that's not that's

1781
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: not it, that's not it. You need some structure. You

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Speaker 1: need to support the head and so that your spine

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Speaker 1: is at a good angle. I bought a special like

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Speaker 1: traction pillow. It's amazing. I gotta share it with you, guys.

1785
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Speaker 1: I found it on Amazon. It looks like a regular

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Speaker 1: memory phone pillow, but it's got like an extra dish

1787
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 1: almost on it that your head like perfectly lays in it,

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Speaker 1: and it allows your head to be in perfect alignment

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Speaker 1: with your spine. But it also because it's got a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a slant like away from your body,

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Speaker 1: it kind of gives your neck just a slight bit attraction.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever worned one of those dopey like horseshoe

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Speaker 1: neck pillows on an airplane shirt? You know, when you

1794
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Speaker 1: get out of it, it it feels really good because it

1795
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: kind of gives you, like your neck a little attraction.

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01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: That's what this pillow does. So I sleep on it

1797
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: like everything I travel with it. It makes that much

1798
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: of a difference in how I feel when I wake

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Speaker 1: up versus when I don't sleep with that pillow. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I have to send it to you, guys. Believe it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: It changes your life. I like the idea of this

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Speaker 1: attraction pillow. That feels fantastic. Hello. One final score for

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Speaker 1: Week fifteen in the National Football League. It's the New

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01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: England Patriots on the road visiting Cliff Kyler and company.

1805
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals four and eight one in six at

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01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 1: home this year, Patriots three and three away from Foxborough

1807
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: Zagura score. It's Patriots favorite on the road. I don't know.

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01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: I like the Patriots to win this one twenty one.

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01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: I like what you did there. Yeah, I'm gonna go

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01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: same but different. Belichick, for whatever reasons, has trouble with

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01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: running quarterbacks. Fields got him earlier this year. Um, I

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01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: hate everything about this Cardinals operation, say picking them in

1813
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: any way, she perform and anything but I but I

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01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 1: will in this one. I like him winning it outright.

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01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: I like the Cardinals. I agree with you when running

1816
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: quarterback acts go against a Belichick system. A lot of

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01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: times Belichick wants to play man in the secondary, which

1818
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: is hard with the running quarterback because you've got half

1819
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: your defense with their backs turned to the quarterback. But

1820
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: also making plays outside of the structure becomes difficult for

1821
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: that defense, right because you can't plan for what he's

1822
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 1: gonna do because nobody knows what he's gonna do. Because

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Speaker 1: I like the Cardinals, I like it as well. I

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Speaker 1: like having the hoffin studio. The next levels coming up next.

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