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Speaker 1: with lamar As rating Wind and Jonas Knox on radio.

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Speaker 2: We got a thief in the house. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Not today?

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Speaker 3: Not today?

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Speaker 2: Any all got a problem? A problem here? Damn, we

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Speaker 3: So you really carry that everywhere you go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is that legal?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: Are the laws around it totally different things?

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Speaker 2: And where you're at totally legal?

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying, are there some places that outlaw firearms?

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Speaker 2: You guys, it's not really considered a firearm. That's why

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Speaker 2: it's illegal. So yeah, you know, it's just the education

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Speaker 2: get a air the air deals that go into them.

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Speaker 3: I have air repellets.

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Speaker 2: It's not the pellets, it's the because it's it's not

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Speaker 2: So the the air tubes that go in there. You

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Speaker 2: But other than that, you could travel with it. Have

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Speaker 2: wish I wish I was strapped when I when the skunk,

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Speaker 2: But I didn't. I never saw it. I never saw

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Speaker 2: I knew something bad had happened. Yeah it was a

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Speaker 2: bad thing. Yeah, he's been around. It's either he or she.

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Speaker 2: But it's very aggressive because it has I mean, and

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Speaker 2: more aggressive than some of these new coaches that that

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Speaker 2: Nord there. I'm just saying, I wish I could have

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Speaker 3: That's somewhere. That's that's probably right now, is where it's at.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah. The

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Speaker 2: the Bill Belichick er a North Carolina's it started off amazing, great,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was what you thought it was going

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Speaker 5: Then the rest of the game took place, and it

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Speaker 2: Boom, and they needed some glucco. That's the sound effect

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Speaker 2: you're making, you know. I've heard that before us for

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Speaker 2: something else. So if they came out really hard in

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Speaker 5: That, Yeah, that was not ideal. I was still kind

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Speaker 5: of I was, look, I North Carolina plus three and

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Speaker 5: a half, all ow in it. That's my fault.

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Speaker 2: I'll wear that one there. That's a bad What was

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Speaker 2: Quinn's wins? What was your pick on this one?

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Speaker 6: I would not have selected North Carolina for a few reasons.

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Speaker 6: I didn't select the game, but had I, I would

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Speaker 3: The points, even though you don't love three and a

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Speaker 6: TCU and Sonny Dikes, I mean, this is not like

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Speaker 6: Outside of the speculation of Josh over their quarterback being

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Speaker 6: But when he was like, we just hoped to take

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Speaker 7: Oh well, it was a great, uh you know, great

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Speaker 2: There you go. I mean you had Lt. Michael Jordans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and no, none of that mattered.

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Speaker 2: It could have gone either way. I remember, I remember

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I meant coaches, former high profile players. I

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Speaker 5: Well, he just said that they didn't handle the playing

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Speaker 2: The magnitude they lost. They lost in the magnitude of

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Speaker 5: So that was, you know, at least one feel good

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Speaker 5: I was watching Gilded Era bad then.

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Speaker 2: Oh you were out. I was out. Damn, I was out.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see the finish of the games. Sorry, guys,

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Speaker 2: you were watching What the Guilt Era? What the hell's that?

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Speaker 3: I thought, there's a lot of games I follow in

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Speaker 2: For there were, there were yours wasn't one of them, though.

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Speaker 2: That was an intriguing guy. That was a good guy.

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Speaker 6: Like to recap week one, I would just generally say

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Speaker 6: a lot of fun. I think we learned a lot

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Speaker 6: to me where somehow I feel more optimistic about Notre

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Speaker 3: In part because like some of the up as fixable.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's different things like I saw from that

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Speaker 3: So like those things are easily fixable.

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Speaker 6: The offensive line first time going up against with that group,

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Speaker 6: But you're trying to figure all that stuff out. The

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Speaker 6: Like that young man was poised, He was tough, made

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Speaker 6: I know people were like, you know, people were frustrated,

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Speaker 6: Jeremi I love didn't get more touches, which I look

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Speaker 2: I break up Penn State. We had a fine weekend.

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Speaker 5: My point was, if you're one of these teams and

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Speaker 2: Yep, you deserve a lot of credit for that.

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Speaker 3: But people act.

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Speaker 6: Like, oh, this was his competition back in high school.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like he hasn't been in in bigger moments

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Speaker 6: Like well, but but but that's that's one thing. They

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes he got lazy with it. Everyone's gonna

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt he forced some footballs in there too.

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Speaker 6: They weren't necessarily rushing to sack him first, if you

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Speaker 2: They definitely showed that they can bounce back, especially Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to lose a game, lose it early.

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Speaker 6: It really it doesn't matter that much. I mean, Ohio

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Speaker 2: I just say lose it early because you get it

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't see it as a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: It's just all about the leadership and how the coaches

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Speaker 5: The arch Manning hype train he was it was going

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Speaker 2: All the hype that was going into it.

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Speaker 5: Like you had people pointing out all the Heisman odds

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Speaker 5: You know, Arch Manning's going to be the gonna win

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Speaker 2: I mean that's what you want to have. You want

438
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Speaker 2: the spotlight on you if that's what you're going for,

439
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 2: and sometimes you don't ask for it. It's just a

440
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: part of the way you played or what's connected to you.

441
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Speaker 5: Or it could build up during the season, not before

442
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 5: the season actually starts, and we're talking about.

443
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Speaker 2: That's fair too, but but there might be a guy

444
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 2: that's ahead of you based off of the hype train

445
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,239
Speaker 2: they had coming into the season. By the way, what

446
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: was the scene like there in Columbus?

447
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 3: How is incredible?

448
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 6: I Mean it felt like as big of a college

449
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 6: football game as I've ever been around. Been a part of,

450
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 6: like the crowds, the patient just the way I think

451
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 6: the intensity in the stadium.

452
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Speaker 3: I mean you can feel it. I mean obviously it

453
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 3: was a low scoring game.

454
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 6: Also like how State ran away with it, so you know,

455
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 6: as tex just kind of started amount of comeback and

456
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 6: make it really interesting in there in the end.

457
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 3: You know, we're some.

458
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Speaker 6: Of the guys are watching going man, I got a

459
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 6: flight to catch, but I'll gladly stay for this if

460
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 6: it goes into overtime. You know what the type of

461
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 6: atmosphere it was, but it was it felt like a

462
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 6: playoff atmosphere.

463
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Speaker 3: I mean, it felt different than other games you're part of, so.

464
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Speaker 6: It's you know there, It's hard to describe to people,

465
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 6: but it's like college football has this feel where just

466
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 6: it feels there's something about the authentic, genuine feel, nostalgic feel, tradition,

467
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 6: all the things that go along with it. This was

468
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 6: like another level above that. And I don't know how

469
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Speaker 6: how to put it into words, but I guess if

470
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Speaker 6: you were a part of any of the playoff games

471
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Speaker 6: last year, like it felt like there was a lot

472
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Speaker 6: on the line and obviously no one's getting eliminated right now,

473
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Speaker 6: but it felt like it was about the Big Ten

474
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 6: versus the SEC. It felt like it was about arch

475
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 6: Manning's heisman opportunity, your heisman chances. It felt like it

476
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 6: was about an Ohio State team that feels like they

477
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Speaker 6: are good enough to repeat for.

478
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Speaker 3: A national championship. It felt like every single.

479
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Speaker 6: Narrative that was out there that was a part of

480
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Speaker 6: this game, Like you're saying, how the Heisman odds are

481
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 6: changing during it felt like all that was going on

482
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Speaker 6: at once.

483
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Speaker 3: That's how big it felt.

484
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the presentation on TV was great. Like it it

485
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 5: felt massive. The when you were doing the pregame and

486
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Speaker 5: my son walks in the.

487
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Speaker 2: Room, Papa, Papa.

488
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Speaker 5: He's watching the games, watching the pregame, and I'm like,

489
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 5: go Cubs depesche mode.

490
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I told him.

491
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Speaker 5: I was like, hey, I'm all, well, you know what

492
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 5: you know Uncle Brady, Well, that's that's my friend, that's him.

493
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Speaker 2: Did you say, go Cubs des Oh wait wait wait

494
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: wait wait wait do you see uncle Brady? Yeah, that's

495
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Speaker 2: my friend. Yeah. Well I'm trying you do you do

496
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Speaker 2: know like uncle and friend, Like that's kind of you know,

497
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: uncle is family, not not friends.

498
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're using it in the way that way,

499
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: you know, you know you'd use it.

500
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: Well, you mean, what do you mean?

501
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: What I mean?

502
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

503
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: Oh?

504
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: You know that's that's my cousin, that's my cousin. That's

505
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 3: actually not cousin.

506
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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

507
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: Wait?

508
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: Oh no, what do you say exactly? Are you insinuating

509
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: that black people call everybody cousin uncle cousin?

510
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: There's a lot of that going.

511
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Speaker 2: I trust me. My kids got a lot of people.

512
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: Na I call him that nephew Labar. Won't you let

513
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Speaker 2: him finish? Cauz.

514
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Speaker 3: So but tell me I'm wrong? No, no, no, tell me

515
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Speaker 3: I'm wrong right now exactly, my bro. It's a term of.

516
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's watching, he's watching you on TV. He goes,

517
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 5: he's my friend too, he's my friend too. I was like,

518
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 5: you're right, you're right. Here's your friend. That's right, by cool.

519
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Speaker 3: He doesn't care about football. Ges he doesn't care about football.

520
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Speaker 5: Okay, Papa, we go throw ball? He uh, Papa, he

521
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 5: saw it. He still thinks to Nitney Lyon is a wolf.

522
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 5: So we're watching the Penn State game.

523
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: He goes the Wolves the wolves, and so you get

524
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: the wolves. Yeah, but it was, uh, it was.

525
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Speaker 5: Like the whole scene was fantastic. It looked like everybody

526
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 5: was gassed up. But did you see Albert Breer by

527
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Speaker 5: the way?

528
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Speaker 2: Was he there?

529
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Speaker 4: Was?

530
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Speaker 2: He?

531
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Speaker 3: I did saw Albert. He came by with his fam.

532
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Speaker 6: I told uh, his his two boys. I said, hey, guys, now,

533
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 6: you gotta be good for mom. Okay, because sometimes you guys.

534
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Speaker 3: Actually make our national radio show and the hours gonna laughing,

535
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Speaker 3: but no, it was great.

536
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.

537
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538
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Speaker 5: Potentially some cause for concern here? Uh oh, Micah Parsons, No,

553
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 5: who is donning the number one in green Bay? He'll

554
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Speaker 5: be wearing number one, MICHAEH. Parsons in Green Bay. Apparently

555
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 5: he might need to get an epidural if he's going

556
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Speaker 5: to play against the Detroit Lions. According to Adam Schefter,

557
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Speaker 5: he's been dealing with an L four L five facet

558
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Speaker 5: joint sprain in his back. He may need the injection

559
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Speaker 5: because it may help him play. Before trading for Parsons

560
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Speaker 5: life last week, the Cowboys prescribed him a five day

561
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Speaker 5: course of anti inflammatories to help him recover from back tightness.

562
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Speaker 2: They also had him on.

563
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Speaker 5: A physical therapy program. So that is the situation when

564
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Speaker 5: it comes to Michaeh Parsons as he gets ready for

565
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Speaker 5: the opener against the Detroit Lions. Is this concerning or

566
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 5: is this nowhere near the level of what Matthew Stafford

567
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 5: was dealing with with his back issue.

568
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Speaker 2: OK?

569
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Speaker 6: You, I think anything involving a back issue is concerning

570
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 6: in my opinion, dealt with L four or five L

571
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 6: five S one back issues. Had my disc taken out

572
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 6: on the L four L five my right side, So

573
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Speaker 6: it's yeah, it's extremely problematic. It makes me wonder if

574
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Speaker 6: this was something that the Cowboys knew and it was

575
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Speaker 6: part of their hesitation with some of the negotiations, or

576
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 6: maybe part of the lack of guarantees or how they

577
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 6: structured the guarantees within the contract. That forced Dave Mulligetta

578
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Speaker 6: and Michah Parsons to to look elsewhere and maybe feel

579
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 6: like they couldn't get a deal done. You know, these

580
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 6: sorts of things don't get better, you know, I mean

581
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Speaker 6: unless I'm wrong, which I've never known anyone who had

582
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 6: back issues that are like, yeah, actually I you know,

583
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 6: had a back issue and now I'm back stronger and

584
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 6: better than ever. Like I've never heard of an athlete

585
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Speaker 6: who's had that. So that that's what it leads me

586
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 6: to think, is you know, a like, what are the

587
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 6: Packers getting in this trade? You know, it will make

588
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 6: up Parsons be able to be the Mica Parsons we've

589
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Speaker 6: seen over the course of his career so far, and

590
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Speaker 6: then it's like is this thing going to plague him

591
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 6: the rest of his career.

592
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Speaker 2: I've taken a little bit of a different different approach

593
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Speaker 2: to it. There have been back injuries you can come

594
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Speaker 2: back from, man.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're not saying come back, but I'm saying

596
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Speaker 3: how many guys have had them and then like been

597
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Speaker 3: a better player?

598
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say, like Tommy John Yeah, but it's not

599
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Speaker 2: I don't think this is that far into it being

600
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Speaker 2: a bad situation, like any surgery. It's just I was like,

601
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: like if somebody were to throw their back out breaking

602
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: leaves or mowing the lawn or something like that, like

603
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: you give it a little bit of time, it comes

604
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: back to normal. I think a sprain in your back

605
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: is much different than degenerative, like to end up having

606
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Speaker 2: to get a disc removed. I mean, maybe that happens

607
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Speaker 2: down the line. I don't know. I don't know if

608
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: it becomes a degenerative issue. But if I don't hear

609
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: degeneratives as they're they're talking about about it, or like

610
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: arthretic type of deals where where it seems like that's

611
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Speaker 2: like you can't really come back from that. If it's

612
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Speaker 2: just a strained a pooled muscle in your back, I

613
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Speaker 2: don't I don't see it being a big, big situation.

614
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: And to give that amount of money that that they've

615
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: offered in the contract for the trade, and and to

616
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Speaker 2: give away what they did in assets to the Cowboys,

617
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Speaker 2: he was going to have to go through a pretty

618
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Speaker 2: good I mean, we all know doctors, if they really

619
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Speaker 2: want a player, they're going to pass the guy through

620
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Speaker 2: through a physical anyway. But they're not I don't see

621
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Speaker 2: them doing that type of deal. If something shows up

622
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Speaker 2: on the MRIs and the scans that they run when

623
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Speaker 2: they're doing the physical before they do this deal, I

624
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Speaker 2: don't think it's a red flag at this moment. I'll

625
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Speaker 2: say so getting an epidor getting an epidoral doesn't like

626
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: it sounds worse than what it is. Really all you're

627
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Speaker 2: doing is basically taking an injection in the area that

628
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Speaker 2: doles the pain of where you have the pain. I'd

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Speaker 2: be no different if you were to do it for

630
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Speaker 2: a knee or for a toe, like if you had

631
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Speaker 2: turf toe. You know, sometimes they do injections that like

632
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: kind of block where where the pain is. I don't

633
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Speaker 2: I don't see it from my perspective as being that serious.

634
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Speaker 2: And I'm not just saying that because it's Michael Parsons. Yeah,

635
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Speaker 2: all right, there we go. I knew that was coming.

636
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Speaker 2: I knew that was lead. The laugh was concerned.

637
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Speaker 5: I know that he was really sweating his balls off

638
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: yesterday when the news came out.

639
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Speaker 9: That's not true, but yeah, I mean it's of course

640
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 9: it's concerning, just hearing about the big, big name player

641
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 9: of course being injured.

642
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: But I think he's gonna be fine. Just like v LaVar.

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Speaker 2: You put me at ease just now with the yeah,

644
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Speaker 2: I mean he's not They're not saying he's injured right that,

645
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: they're saying he's dealing with a strain in his back.

646
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Speaker 9: I mean I do see that term he used degenerative, degenerative.

647
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: Uh now if you hear it out there, but if

648
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: you hear if you hear that, then that's where there's

649
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: no come out there, but there's no coming back from that.

650
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 9: Oh, you're internet the doctors, your armchair doctors.

651
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: If those armchair doctors are accurate.

652
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Speaker 6: I mean you mean the guy who actually like have

653
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 6: like they have their you know, m D. But they're

654
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 6: just online looking at it. Is that what you're saying.

655
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, just a lot of responses to these reports, like

656
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 9: people saying that the packers didn't know and uh, people

657
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 9: chiming in about you know, they sound like they know

658
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 9: what they're talking about. They put throughout a lot of

659
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 9: big words and say that the sprain probably is trying

660
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 9: to describe a degenerative issue, which.

661
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: As possible because of strain as a tear. I will

662
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: say this about the cowboys.

663
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 6: The cowboys, I think their doctors did Jalen Smith's knee surgery.

664
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 6: If I'm not mistaken, remember when he heard in the festival, Yeah,

665
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 6: and he was at like a lock for being a

666
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 6: first round pick. Well, the Cowboys end up taking them.

667
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 6: Now he dropped to the second round. But I believe

668
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 6: if my information is correct, their medical staff was the

669
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 6: ones who did the surgery, and I think that they

670
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 6: felt comfortable enough because they knew, you know, what they

671
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 6: were getting.

672
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: Based on again doing the surgery.

673
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 6: So there is something you know to that when it's

674
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 6: your player, you have a history of it and you're

675
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 6: able to kind of, you know, then look at it

676
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 6: moving forward. There's an element I think of them feeling

677
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 6: more comfortable with what they're offering for a contract where

678
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 6: they feel like the players in his career or his

679
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 6: his lifespan and his playing career.

680
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: So that might be something to that. I don't know.

681
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I hope he's the player that we've

682
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 6: all seen because you know, the NFL needs that. It'd

683
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 6: be fun to see the Packers with Rashaan Gary on

684
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 6: one side him on the other what that.

685
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: Would look like. But it would be a shame if

686
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: you know, he went there and he.

687
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 6: Is, like I thought, the whole back story he was

688
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 6: telling during camp and everything else. I thought that was

689
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 6: just a negotiation tag day. I didn't actually think there

690
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 6: was anything legitimately there.

691
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it's I also, did you see the

692
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 5: Albert Breer story that so Albert Breer was reporting on,

693
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 5: you know, some of the stuff that was going on

694
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 5: in Dallas with Micah Parsons, and he said, quote, Zach Martin, C. D. Lamb,

695
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 5: and Dak Prescott are and were very popular in the

696
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 5: locker room. That's not the case with Parsons, who has

697
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 5: rankled teammates in different ways, seen by some as egotistical

698
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 5: and self centered. His podcast has created issues too that

699
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: go all the way up to quarterback Dak Prescott. So

700
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 5: I already starting to get the uh, you know now

701
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 5: he's got a back issue. Now he was a pain

702
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 5: in the ass behind the scenes. Like it feels like

703
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 5: we're starting to get some of the Micah shade thrown

704
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 5: out there when it comes to their experience.

705
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: And they could they could throw shade out there, but

706
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: it's it's done. He's not he's no longer a Dallas cowboy.

707
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean, prepare for your season. I think they have

708
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: a lot of bigger fish to fry. They signed Doron

709
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: Bland to a deal. See right there you go. They

710
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: did get that extension done, So it was interesting.

711
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 6: Didn't that kind of look reactionary because that's a big

712
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 6: deal and it's I'm not saying it's close to Micah's.

713
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: I mean it's not too far off, like total value

714
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: of the deal. But you look at it, you just go,

715
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: all right, did they just say, Okay, we're going to

716
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: show people we have the cap space.

717
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 6: We could do a deal if we wanted to. We

718
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 6: just we didn't like it. We could work out with Micah.

719
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: I had to do something. They win, don't have it

720
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: right now. If you're a betting man, who's gonna finish

721
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: higher green Bay, right, I'm taking green Bay easily stick. Yeah.

722
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean that was cue that threw out the pick,

723
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: but I agreed with him. I be surprised if Dallas

724
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: can reach ten wins, They're going to struggle to reach

725
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: ten wins, if you if from looking at it, because

726
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: talent will never outperform dysfunction and while he may be

727
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: highly functioning business wise and as a brand. I saw

728
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: this happening in Washington, and listen, I get that Jerry

729
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: Jones has much more of a resume than what Dan

730
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: Snyder had or had. But a lot of the things

731
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: that you see taking place in Dallas are aily similar

732
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: to the things that was going on when Dan Snyder

733
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: owned the Washington Redskins. And that's just the reality of it,

734
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 2: and it comes across as very dysfunctional. I mean, we're

735
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: heading into gang week. This is week one, and and

736
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: Dallas is we're talking about reports of what people had

737
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: to say about Michael Parsons. Like, think about it. You

738
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: have enough on your plate just to prepare on a

739
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: regular work week to try to win a game. So

740
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: the fact that y'all are talking about Michael Parsons still

741
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: and you want to have like quotes and accounts as

742
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: to why you got rid of them, and this, that

743
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: and the other, that's confusion. No matter how you want

744
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: to splice it. That is creating confusion. Your locker room

745
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: has to talk about it. It's on their minds. That's

746
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: not an easy one to just move on from. Yep,

747
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: moving on, got a game this week? Like, no, they're

748
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: asking about Michael Parsons, who is probably again I asked

749
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: this question over the weekend. There's not one number one

750
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: most elite player up for discussion outside of Michael Parsons

751
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: that was on that roster. You can't say Dak Prescott

752
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: number one, number two. You can't say CD Lamb number one,

753
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: number two. Even though his yardage, you know he led

754
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: it with yardage. He's not a number one, number two

755
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: rated receiver in the league. That's justin Jefferson and our

756
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: guy out and Chase in Cincinnati. Hands down, I don't

757
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: think that's up for debate. Michael Parsons is up for

758
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: debate as most dominant defensive player in the league, the

759
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: only one you had on your team and you're going

760
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: into a season without him now due to a trade

761
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: you didn't want to pay him. Confusion will never outdo

762
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: or excuse me, talent will never outdo confusion. And that's

763
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: what you got going on in Dallas. I'll be shocked

764
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: if they hit ten wins. Their win total DraftKings is

765
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: seven and a half, so I'll be shocked if they

766
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: break seven and a half wins. I take that back.

767
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: You'll the under, Oh yeah, I take the.

768
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 6: Underall sticks picks is the Khalil mac trade. The closest

769
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 6: thing we have to really look at, like how that

770
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 6: worked out in retrospect to both the Raiders and the Bears.

771
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: I would I would say Reggie White, even though the

772
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: historical value of it was a little bit different, that

773
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: was a signing though, Yeah, I mean it was a

774
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: little different.

775
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just trying to use an apples apples comparison,

776
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 6: like both edge Rusher is more recent, like in our

777
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 6: the start of this millennium, and.

778
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't think that even compares.

779
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 6: I don't think, okay, but I understand the point of

780
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 6: trying to make in regards to the player. I'm just

781
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 6: saying promising Edge Rusher, like you would make the case

782
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 6: that when Khalil Mack was on the Raiders, number one

783
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 6: defensive player on that team, maybe the best overall player.

784
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 3: On that team.

785
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, absolutely, So the reason why I would say

786
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: it's not comparable is what year was Khalil Mack in.

787
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: I think he was older five, he was going no, no,

788
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 2: it wasn't fun. Was it the same exact year? Twenty seven?

789
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: I think when he got de twenty eighteen, so he

790
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 2: was off of his he was still in his first contract.

791
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 5: And that's why this Gruden had just taken over and

792
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 5: want to Oh well, yeah, they commit that much change,

793
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 5: is it?

794
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yes, it is comparable. I thought he was

795
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: older when he left. No, no, no, he was. He

796
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 2: hadn't even came off of his first contract and.

797
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: He was looking at he well, he was older in

798
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: the sense of his age because he got into the

799
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: NFL at twenty three, but in regards to his like

800
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: contract for being a first round pick, he was in

801
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: the very he's like almost the exact same spot. What's

802
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: interesting about it, though, is he goes to Chicago and

803
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: he's never ever able to replicate the production that he

804
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: had with the Raiders until he got to the Charges

805
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: when he turned thirty two. You know, I just I

806
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: think it's interesting that we like kind of tend to

807
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: look at this and this isn't like a comment to

808
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: like Devalue Michael Parsons's impact, how good of a player

809
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: he is.

810
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 6: But I also think we tend to overvalue too, like

811
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 6: how good some guys are, and that like the next

812
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 6: guy is waiting to come in, can't have a good year,

813
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 6: can't have good production, or whatever else maybe the case

814
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 6: so like like they like, for example, if you're able

815
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 6: to find, you know, a couple of guys who can

816
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 6: come in and maybe one gives you nine, maybe one

817
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 6: gives you ten. One good guy gives you six, and

818
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 6: Parsons only has twelve sacks, you know for the package

819
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 6: next year, you kind of look at it and all right,

820
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 6: like maybe in the end, like we kind of it

821
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 6: worked out better for us. We're probably saving some money

822
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 6: under the cap. We've got guys who are you know,

823
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 6: equally as productive, if not more so, and you know

824
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 6: we've got some future draft capital on top of that.

825
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 6: That could be I don't know, I mean, that could be,

826
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 6: but of course it all can be. Mislead sack could

827
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 6: be a sack, like you know, when did you get

828
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 6: the sack? How did this sack? Like Michael Parsons is

829
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 6: a game wrecking machine. I'm not discounting that, Like I'm

830
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 6: not discounting any part of his game, even if I'm

831
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 6: just so if you look out and that's that, you

832
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 6: know what I mean? Like the passion of it is

833
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 6: the impact of game? How about this is the impact

834
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 6: of game planning. Like you're not gonna prepare for an

835
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 6: average NFL guy the same way you are Micat Parsons.

836
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to add chips.

837
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to put in things where you're probably

838
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 6: not running them to that side. You're gonna know wherever

839
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 6: he's out on the field. There might be times when

840
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 6: he's supposed to be on the left side he goes

841
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 6: on the right side, and then you have to slide

842
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 6: the line that way.

843
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: Trust me, I know better than anyone else how this works.

844
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 6: I'm saying in retrospect, when you look at how that

845
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 6: deal worked out for both Chicago and Oakland at the

846
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 6: time where the Raiders were, I'm not really sure it

847
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 6: worked out for anyone. Yeah, I mean, I mean, Jonas,

848
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 6: you're a Bears fan, Like, did you feel like the

849
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 6: Bears had he was like one year?

850
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: Maybe?

851
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was and that was the double

852
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 5: doint game where they went to the playoffs and Colomack

853
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 5: was good for him. He was especially good when they

854
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 5: had first gotten him in that first game.

855
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: He was an All Pro that first year.

856
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 5: Yea, and he and look, one of the draft picks

857
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 5: turned into Josh Jacobs, who ultimately you know how, I

858
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 5: gave him a whackers. So the Kolomac trade isn't like

859
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 5: I go back to this. You mean to tell me

860
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 5: Dallas couldn't have gotten something more for Michah Parsons like that.

861
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 5: That's the part that still is confusing to me, because

862
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 5: we were making the point that, yeah, they got a

863
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 5: couple of first round picks, but okay, well they got

864
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 5: a couple of first round picks, but they got a

865
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 5: couple of first round picks from a team that's going

866
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 5: to be picking what twenty six, twenty seven, maybe like

867
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 5: really late in the draft for the next couple of weeks.

868
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna stink. So that draft capital becomes more valuable

869
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: because you might be able to package that in.

870
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 5: But it's at that point in the first round, it's

871
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 5: almost like a second round pick.

872
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: You can package that that pick, that value of a

873
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: first round pick into a trade. Maybe, Yeah, I mean

874
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: that's what it is, right, That's why they call it draftcapay.

875
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: But maybe they could, and maybe somebody wouldn't take them up.

876
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 5: On that, and maybe they won't, but if you got

877
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 5: a chance, I look at it and I go. Because

878
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 5: part of what was the motivating factor, and we mentioned

879
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 5: this today after the trade happened, and why Gruden Khalil

880
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 5: Mack to the Bears was the Packers were the other

881
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 5: team ironically that were in discussions with the Raiders about

882
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 5: Khalil Mack and he chose to do the deal with

883
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 5: Chicago because he thought the first round picks they were

884
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 5: going to get from Chicago better, We're going to be

885
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 5: higher up because they were a worse team. It flipped

886
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 5: and so those became later picks because the Packers struggled

887
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: that year and the Bears won the division.

888
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 2: I just they went in more than seven.

889
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 5: I find it hard to believe that there was no

890
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 5: other team that had an offs on the table other

891
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 5: than the Packers.

892
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 6: I don't I don't get this, Like, how could it

893
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 6: you know, if I mean, he's everything that I think

894
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 6: we all look at him to be.

895
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: How are the.

896
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 6: Packers the only team who were in on this. There

897
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 6: wasn't anyone else. There was no one else interested in

898
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 6: Micah Parsons. I haven't heard of one other team reported

899
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 6: on that.

900
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: And that's what's confusing.

901
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: And Jerry Jones even said something along the lines of, listen,

902
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 5: we didn't want to trade it to Green Bay, but

903
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: you know, but we ended up having to do the.

904
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: Deal with Cleveland negotiate against themselves at one point too,

905
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: and one of the largest fully guaranteed contracts in the history.

906
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: I know Atlanta, but.

907
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: Atlanta, there's there's a few other teams.

908
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 2: But but didn't they end up negotiating against themselves, like.

909
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 6: They had to do that contract otherwise she was going

910
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 6: to Atlanta? Do you think that one hundred percent?

911
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: I know, I know if not for that contract, he

912
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: was not going to be in Cleveland.

913
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Well I don't know what to say. All

914
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: I'll say is he got his money from Green Bay.

915
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody else was out there knocking,

916
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, but that wouldn't be That's Michael Parsons.

917
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: And again like if you're.

918
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: If you're in New England, you have caps face too.

919
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: You wouldn't, Yeah, wouldn't. If you're Mike rab kicked the

920
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: tigers on that you have to.

921
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: You have to.

922
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: Maybe they feel like they're in rebuild Node and they

923
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: want to.

924
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: But they were making it like they were interested in

925
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: t J. Watt or Hendrickson that.

926
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 6: They were already there was already rumors of that, like

927
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 6: why would New England not be involved?

928
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't I mean, I.

929
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: Mean, maybe maybe they poisoned the whale with some people.

930
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: Maybe it was like Okay, you know Michael Parsons likes

931
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: his podcast. Michael Parsons got a bad back. Michael Parsons

932
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: isn't like by his teammates in the locker.

933
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 6: Everyone has a podcast now, Like, is that big of

934
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 6: an issue for teams?

935
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: Being a sarcastic guy, I'd be that serious.

936
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope that people really get that upset about podcasts.

937
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: I feel like there's so many out there.

938
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 6: It's like I fully expect when I meet someone for

939
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 6: for the first time for them to say.

940
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a podcast. But yeah, I get that.

941
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 6: It's like social like everyone's had a podcast. Someone wants

942
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: to talk on camera to someone or to no one

943
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 6: and just talk, you know, Like I get it.

944
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 3: So I don't know why that would.

945
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 2: Even be happens to be doing it at a higher

946
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: level than a lot of these guys.

947
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: It's like what it was on Zen's, Like everyone does

948
00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: zins now. Yeah, Like I had neuroplasticity.

949
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: The other day. One is doing Zen's on on a

950
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: golf course. I just did it, just to do it.

951
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: They were sitting there in front of me. My buddy

952
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: was did you feel like your mind was working faster?

953
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: I felt a little off balance actually for a few minutes,

954
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: and then then it came back around. Yeah, just for

955
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: a few minutes. Though nobody would have known. I linked

956
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: up against the counter.

957
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 6: There is a h and I just want to preface

958
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 6: anything I say right now by this is probably not true.

959
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: All right.

960
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 6: Most things you see on social media are not fact

961
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 6: check true or have any evidence behind them. There's this

962
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 6: doctors like claiming that nicotine is like the wonder drug

963
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 6: that we've been missing forever and it would cure everything.

964
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 6: It's like every time he's like, oh yeah, like cancer,

965
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 6: nicotine can cure that, I'm like, what is this guy saying?

966
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 6: But it does lend itself to like this cult following

967
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 6: of Zen's and like every every person who does them's like,

968
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 6: oh yeah, it's making me healthier, it's making me smarter,

969
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 6: it makes my.

970
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: Brain work faster. Neuroplasticity is what people will say.

971
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: So what's the difference between a zin.

972
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: There's no tobacco. Okay, I already knew you were going

973
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: with that. There's there's no tobacco.

974
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: I had a coffee flavor, but it was really good.

975
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 3: He was gonna say, like a lip bandit, or he

976
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 3: was going to say some stupid phrase for what he calls.

977
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: Were we gonna say that?

978
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: No, I just you know what the difference between that

979
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 2: and a whip pillow?

980
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 3: Hogs leg?

981
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, hogs leg, horseshoe.

982
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: You know this is how well I know. I've known

983
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: Jonas for so long. I know the setup. By the way,

984
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 3: can you tell us the one time how Lovey Smith

985
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: decided he was starting?

986
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: I think I don't think you've heard this.

987
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 5: So Lovey Smith had Kyle Orton and Rex Gross camp,

988
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 5: so he was deciding on who was going to start

989
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 5: a preseason?

990
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: So how did that work out? What? What do you do?

991
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: Flipping coins?

992
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 4: Uh?

993
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: Huh? Flip flip the coin? Was it best out of three?

994
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 4: Nah?

995
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: Just one time? No, I just need it one time

996
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: figure out and got the start and ultimately got the job. Yeah,

997
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: that's how that went. Okay, it's a good store. We'll

998
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 2: dust that one off next training camp. That's a really

999
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: good store.

1000
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: It's a great story.

1001
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 6: But you know what, though, what, Well, let's get to

1002
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 6: something else that I think is more important to talk about.

1003
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: Okay, depending the Prostate Cancer Foundation. They're here to remind

1004
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: you that help is a long game.

1005
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 6: And screening for prostate cancer is easier than ever, I said.

1006
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 6: Blood tests can lead to the better treatment options and

1007
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 6: better outcomes. Learn more at depend dot com.

1008
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Make sure you get that thing checked out, man.

1009
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: Make sure it's clean. Make sure there's no polyps on

1010
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: there or no growth. Health is wealth, and wealth is

1011
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: you know your health. Would you check it out for

1012
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: someone if they asked you to, I mean, if it

1013
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: was going to save their lives, I certainly would. You know,

1014
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to get paid. You got to pay me

1015
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: to do that dirty work. You know, the dirty work.

1016
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you've done that enough to know

1017
00:48:59,160 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: what's in there?

1018
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 8: Uh?

1019
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: That is a very very interesting question anything. Thank you, Lorena,

1020
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for bailing me out right there,

1021
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: because I'm just the one that's bold enough to answer

1022
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: that candidly.

1023
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 3: Which I really didn't want to see where that was.

1024
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah I can, I would candidly answer that. But thanks

1025
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: for bailing me out, Loreena. Hey man, I'll say this time,

1026
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: good man.

1027
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 3: You looked good on the sideline too. They showed you.

1028
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: I was like, he looked happy. He looked like he

1029
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: was just floating out there.

1030
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: And shooting him up all morning. Oh gosh, Okay, thanks, guys.

1031
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, man, you looked it looked like it

1032
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: was an awesome weekend for you.

1033
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: It was good. It definitely was good. It's always nice

1034
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: to be back, man, being.

1035
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: I understand why you don't just move there for this

1036
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: period of time.

1037
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 2: You know, it's possible that that could happen. It's possible.

1038
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: It's a lot of traveling, man, that's that's a lot

1039
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: of traveling back and forth. But I do have a

1040
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: daughter at Oregon that I want to see play too,

1041
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: and I do like be each beach weather when I

1042
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: woke up, when I woke up on Sunday, Sunday night,

1043
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: or Monday, Monday morning, Monday morning, it was, it was.

1044
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 2: It was just it's different. I can't. I can't live

1045
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: on the East coast ever. Again, maybe unless it's Miami,

1046
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: but I can't. If it's not like where I'm at now,

1047
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. I need motivation, So

1048
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: there you go, get motivation that's out of State College.

1049
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: Though I love State College and I love the way

1050
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 2: our people are and all that good stuff. I love

1051
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: State College and will be there a lot, but I

1052
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: just don't want to live there so especially when it

1053
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: starts snowing.

1054
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

1055
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and

1056
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

1057
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 5: Right now, we welcome him in the Smooth Operator. He

1058
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 5: is Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS

1059
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 5: Sports HQ Analyst. If you want the smoke, you can

1060
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 5: get it on x at Prisco CBS Peak.

1061
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: Good morning, what's up guy?

1062
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 4: How are you all right?

1063
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: Hey, Pete?

1064
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 4: Hey, yea. By the way, I was watching the Penn

1065
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: State game the other day and they showed some guy

1066
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: from the nineteen forties on the sideline and he was

1067
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 4: there watching the game, and then they said it was

1068
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 4: LeVar Ericton. I go, god, what happened?

1069
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: Went out the gate?

1070
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: You know, Pete? I let you have that. Pete.

1071
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: You know I love you.

1072
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: I love you back, Pete, I love you.

1073
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 4: But you made who was standing? Who are standing there?

1074
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 4: And they said, oh my god, you look like you

1075
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 4: would disabuse him and throw him to the wall and

1076
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 4: beat the daylights. I mean you were like double his

1077
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: you're big.

1078
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard out a lot that I'm a big dude.

1079
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I think I'm obese, and I

1080
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: fight that. I deal with that. I deal with you.

1081
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 4: You were just always a big you. Forget how big

1082
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 4: you were when you played Ransom.

1083
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, big guys, a big boy. Hey, I wanna want

1084
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: to pick your brain about last night.

1085
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 6: I assumed you watched the deput of Bill Belichick.

1086
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: At at the unc Andy. All right, go ahead, just

1087
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 3: take it away.

1088
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 4: Well, it just proves that players matter. I mean, and

1089
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 4: you know, I guess Mike Lombardi hasn't done his job.

1090
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: There goes because they don't have any players.

1091
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: I mean, very is what you're saying.

1092
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, we know Belichick and coach, but

1093
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if you don't have players. And clearly

1094
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 4: they don't have any players, because okay, you might lose

1095
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 4: that game, but they get beat the way you got beat.

1096
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 4: That tells you that the roster is not very good.

1097
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: And so from that standpoint, it's going to be a

1098
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: tough turnaround for him. I don't care how good a

1099
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 4: coach you are. If it's it's always been about players,

1100
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 4: it always will win and.

1101
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: Always has this You're right, you're right, And and then

1102
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: look I think love art. I both feel the way.

1103
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 6: Maybe Jonas does you know he's a player, But what

1104
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 6: I was going to ask you is do you feel

1105
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 6: like Also, It's just they're two different leagues.

1106
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: There are almost two different sports.

1107
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 6: Like, as good as you can be at the NFL level,

1108
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 6: it's hard to then jump into college. I think you

1109
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 6: can have the same success or as good as you

1110
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 6: can to be in college to jump in the NFL

1111
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 6: and have the same success.

1112
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're two different games, but it's also structured two

1113
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: different ways too. I mean, if you gave Bill Belichick

1114
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: Oregon's money an Oregan's program, or Ohio State's money in

1115
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 4: Ohio States program, you'd win there too. I Mean it's

1116
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: really simple in college football. If you get the players

1117
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: and you pay the players, you're gonna win. And you know,

1118
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: now you pay them legally. Back in the day, you

1119
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 4: pay them legally, and so yeah, I look. And in

1120
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: the NFL you have a cap. You got to manage

1121
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 4: the cap, and you got to manage your drafts and

1122
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 4: you got to be good at that. It's different. It's

1123
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: really an entirely different thing. I mean college football, you

1124
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 4: can have one year. Okay, let's say North Carolina unloads

1125
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 4: with money.

1126
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: Next year.

1127
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: They just find anything and everything they could possibly get,

1128
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 4: and they start paying guys to come out of the portal.

1129
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: You don't think they're going to be a better football team.

1130
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: Of course they will be.

1131
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: It's really a simple thing. Players win. They always will.

1132
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: I thought that's what they did this year. But I

1133
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: guess I.

1134
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 4: Guess not well, I mean, maybe they need a new

1135
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 4: general manager.

1136
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: They brought in a lot of new players through that portal.

1137
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: I thought that's what they did.

1138
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, them. I think there's seventy guys, and I think

1139
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 4: thirty something of them came after spring ball.

1140
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean, well, pretty hard to get.

1141
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 6: Forty are transfers, thirty are freshmen.

1142
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 3: So that's the top.

1143
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's seventy new players.

1144
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot. That's a lot. Speaking speaking of transferring,

1145
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: I'm going to steal it because I know Jonas wants

1146
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: to do it, and I'm jumping in because, well it's

1147
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: my guy. You you said they all play, and you

1148
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: said that it was pretty much a lock that Michael

1149
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: Parsons would be playing for the Dallas Cowboys, but now

1150
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: he goes to the Green Bay Packers. Just give us

1151
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 2: your take. On on what took place.

1152
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 4: He playing?

1153
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: Is he playing? I mean, I'd assume he's going to play.

1154
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 4: Of course he's gonna play. They all play.

1155
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about the Helly All show.

1156
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: But you said he was going to show up for

1157
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Pete Priskot and traded if they hadn't.

1158
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 4: Traded me Winter showed up for the Dallas Cowboy.

1159
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: So you were on the right side of your prediction.

1160
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 4: I'm always on the right side of that predict. They

1161
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 4: all show up to play. Who's not playing? By the way,

1162
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 4: this week the games start on Thursday. Which NFL player

1163
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 4: isn't playing because of this contract?

1164
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: I mean you make a valid point. It's a valid point.

1165
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 4: Looks like I said, all summer long, they all play.

1166
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: Whether whether he gets traded or not, they all play.

1167
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 4: And look, I think if you're the Green Bay Packers,

1168
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 4: it's a great move. And normally I'll be the first

1169
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 4: one to say this. I hate trade and page because

1170
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 4: you're giving up valuable assets in draft picks to get

1171
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 4: a guy and then you have to unload the money

1172
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 4: on him and that's going to be a salary cap

1173
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 4: problem for you. But this guy's twenty six years old.

1174
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: It's not like he's, you know, thirty. You're trading for

1175
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 4: a guy in his prime. And the one thing, and

1176
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 4: when I was in Green Bay, the one thing sitting

1177
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 4: in mettla Flor's office, he said is we got to

1178
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 4: rush the passer better. And now they're going to rush

1179
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 4: the passer better. It balances that defensive line, It gives

1180
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 4: it you know, Gary on one side. On the other,

1181
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 4: Ben could come in and now all of a sudden

1182
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 4: they get after the quarterback. So I usually hate trade

1183
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 4: and page, but I think it works for the Packers.

1184
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 4: By the way, you guys know, I had the Packers

1185
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl even yeah, so even before that trade,

1186
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 4: and now I think even more so. So I think

1187
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 4: I think it's a great trade. From the Cowboys standpoint, Look,

1188
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 4: you never let a guy like that go out the door.

1189
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 4: But you also look at it from the standpoint that

1190
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 4: what they win when he was there. And so if

1191
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: you get those two picks and now you have four

1192
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 4: first round picks, and you know, you can have a

1193
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 4: ton of cap room. They have the second most cap

1194
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 4: room in the league. Now there could be some flexibility

1195
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 4: there as well. The problem with that is who's fixing

1196
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 4: the roster. I mean, you know, you're going to leave

1197
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 4: that in the hands with Jerry Jones to go fix

1198
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 4: you know, make that, take those picks and turn them

1199
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 4: into something really good. That's a problem.

1200
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 5: Hey, Pete, what's the difference between Jerry Jones and Woody Johnson?

1201
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 5: Because it doesn't feel like there's there's much of a

1202
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 5: difference these days.

1203
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 4: Well, Jerry has football decision making powers and wood he doesn't, exactly,

1204
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 4: although he sticks his.

1205
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 5: Nose into it, you know, but maybe Jerry shouldn't at

1206
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 5: this point, you know, maybe.

1207
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: But he's a GM. Did you watch the special on

1208
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 4: that foot I mean, I mean, I mean Jerry, Jerry's

1209
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 4: not going to step away from any of that. And

1210
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 4: and so you know, wood he doesn't do it on

1211
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 4: a day to day basic He's much more involved than

1212
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: people think he is. Though I think that's always.

1213
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: A bad thing.

1214
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 4: By the way, when when owners get involved in football

1215
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 4: making decisions, it's a terrible, terrible thing because they have

1216
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 4: no earthly idea what the hell they're doing. Now, Jerry's

1217
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 4: been around the game, played the game. He's you know,

1218
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 4: he portrays himself as a general manager. It's a little different.

1219
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: But when Woody Johnson starts sticking his nose in there

1220
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,959
Speaker 4: making football decisions. That's not a good thing or any owner.

1221
00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1222
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 4: I just think that they're capable of doing it, and

1223
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 4: that's why you need football people in those decisions making positions.

1224
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 4: And they could come to you and say, look, we're

1225
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: going to make this blockbuster trade. We're going to go

1226
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 4: what are you on board with that? Because you obviously

1227
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 4: have to go to him, you have to pay the guy,

1228
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 4: and you say, yeah, you go, okay, that's fine. Not

1229
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 4: them making the decisions. They're telling you bench this guy

1230
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: or play that guy. That's not what you should be doing.

1231
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 4: As you worry about to ching ki ching kiching. You

1232
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 4: just keep rolling up the cascer register, which is what

1233
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: they all do.

1234
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 6: Hey, Pete, are you surprised there's no other teams though?

1235
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm seeing some articles now coming out where

1236
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 6: Mike Vrabel was asked with the Patriot because they would

1237
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 6: have made a lot of sense. They have cap space,

1238
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 6: they have a need for it, but apparently they didn't

1239
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 6: want to pursue. Micah Parsons, do you have any idea why?

1240
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 6: I was just green Bay and this is the best

1241
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 6: defensive player in the league and there's only one team

1242
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 6: bidding for his services.

1243
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that you hear and talking

1244
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 4: to people after the trade was made was that the

1245
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 4: lack of teams were reluctant to bring him into the

1246
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 4: building because you know, look, whether you liked it or not,

1247
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 4: and I have a problem with it, be careful with podcast.

1248
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 4: His podcast turned off some people. He wasn't you know

1249
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 4: people some teams see him as a problem in the building,

1250
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 4: and I, look, I hadn't seen that. So I'm just

1251
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 4: telling you what I've heard. That what I'm just it's

1252
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 4: out there, LeVar.

1253
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there, I'm.

1254
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 4: Just telling you what teams say. So when teams say that,

1255
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 4: that's why I don't think there was such a great

1256
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 4: market for Look, when you have a twenty six year

1257
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 4: old elite pass rusher in the prime of his career

1258
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 4: come available and there isn't just a market fighting for

1259
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 4: to get him, doesn't that Isn't that a little bit

1260
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 4: of a red flag? LeVar?

1261
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: Just it depends on what the red flag is. It

1262
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: is it the contract? I think, well, I think the

1263
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: amount of money was the red flag. Honestly, here's the

1264
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: other thing, here's the other thing.

1265
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 4: Do you are you now seeing him where the edge

1266
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 4: rusher has become the quarterback, that the elite edge rusher

1267
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 4: has become the quarterback in terms of the money, And

1268
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 4: that's always making teams out there a little more reluctant

1269
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 4: to go pay him, because let's go through the let's

1270
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 4: go through the edge rushers who've been paid.

1271
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: Okay, we talked about this earlier, but go ahead.

1272
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 4: I think you got Yeah, Miles Garrett, they winning nah

1273
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,479
Speaker 4: uh dj Watt and they won. Nah, you know, going

1274
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 4: and on.

1275
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: They're competitive in Pittsburgh. Huh, they're competitive in Pittsburgh. I

1276
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: thought you were about to throw out, like you know,

1277
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 2: Brady threw out Khalil Mack earlier. Pete, what about Max Crosby?

1278
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: What about him?

1279
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 4: There's another one. There's another one, the elite look and

1280
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 4: then and then some guys they say that now that

1281
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 4: you'd rather pay the elite interior guy because he can

1282
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 4: really disrupt in the.

1283
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: Interior in Dallas and got to him. Dallas got to

1284
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: Pete Prisco, Dallas got to you. They got to you, Pete,

1285
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: they got to you.

1286
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:54,959
Speaker 4: No, they don't.

1287
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: Then they get an interior lambing and and in exchange

1288
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: for Michael Parsons along and and.

1289
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 4: That's right, by the way, I don't agree with it,

1290
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 4: so I'm just telling I don't agree. I'm just telling

1291
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 4: you something. This stuff about that, I don't agree with

1292
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 4: that Edge rushers, But would you rather ears one? Would

1293
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 4: you rather have Aaron Donald in his prime.

1294
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: Not for compared to Aaron Donald can play outside and

1295
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: rush from the outside just as well as he can

1296
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: rush from the inside.

1297
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 4: Would you rather have Jalen Carter and it now, who's

1298
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 4: ready to go to the elite's status from that say

1299
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 4: he's elite this year of that position, or would you

1300
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Speaker 4: rather have the edge guy?

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Speaker 2: I mean again, if I can get a guy that

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Speaker 2: can do what they do on the inside and what

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01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: they do on the outside, but they have to be

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Speaker 2: able to do it at an elite level on the

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Speaker 2: outside too. It's like they're playing two positions. You can

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01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: play them in two separate positions and get the same

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01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: type of production that you would get, if not better

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Speaker 2: than the person that don't play.

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Speaker 4: Edge, doesn't play edge, they can.

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Speaker 2: Put They've put Jalen Carter on the edge at Tome.

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna play edge.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to play there all the time, but

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Speaker 2: you can use them there you want. You can use

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Speaker 2: him in a three linemen alignment six technique.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can do that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying a guy that can play inside out,

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01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: outside in is always to me, they're way more valuable

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Speaker 2: than anybody else. But that's you're talking about like one

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Speaker 2: of one in each of those situations, like Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 2: Name another Aaron Donald. You know what I mean? Okay,

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Speaker 2: Chris Jones, because yes, because he can play on the

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Speaker 2: edge as well as on the inside.

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, okay. So so LeVar starting to agree with

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Speaker 4: the league guys WO said the interior guys are more value.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're more valuable if they're just an

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Speaker 2: interior guy. If they can play outside just as effectively

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Speaker 2: as they do inside, I think that they hold value.

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Speaker 4: They don't play outside that much. They can do it,

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Speaker 4: but they don't.

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Speaker 2: But they can and they can do it effectively, which

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01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: is but it gives you, It gives your defensive coordinator

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01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: more latitude and the ability to be more creative and

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Speaker 2: the things that they're doing. If you have a guy

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01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: that you can move around like that, and it makes

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01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,919
Speaker 2: it difficult to game play a guy that if you don't,

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01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: if you don't prepare well for him, you might be

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Speaker 2: seeing him on the edge for the bulk of the

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Speaker 2: plays and you weren't even anticipating seeing him out there,

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Speaker 2: and I could create a problem. I'm just saying, guys

1340
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: that had that type of versatility don't come around very often.

1341
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: It's it's not a usual deal.

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Speaker 4: But here's the other part of that. Would you rather

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01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 4: have two twenty two million dollar edge players or five?

1344
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Speaker 2: And that's the conversation that was ensuing before. I just

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01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: think that again, game impact versus versus stats are two

1346
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: different things. If I got a guy that can impact

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01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: the game like a franchise player impacts the game, I

1348
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 2: want the franchise player impact player versus oh I was

1349
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: able to replace the production of how many sacks he

1350
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 2: got through three guys that got I mean, where did

1351
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: those three sacks that they replaced, Where did they come

1352
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: in in the game? How did it impact the game?

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, by the way, Levarcus, I always I

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01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 4: always say, fourth quarter, game on the line, fack, fumble,

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 4: game over. I want that guy, And Michael Parsons is

1356
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Speaker 4: that guy?

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Speaker 3: You want a closer that's the equivalent to a closer

1358
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 3: in the NFL and football, right.

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Speaker 4: Correct, correct, and you played. But the other thing about

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01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 4: him is you can move him up and down the

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01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 4: line too, and rush him from every different spot if

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Speaker 4: you want to. You've seen him do that in Dallas.

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Speaker 4: I think he can rush from a variety of positions

1364
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 4: and this is what you can do with them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we've all seen edge rushers who can move down

1366
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 6: inside and rush, but he does.

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Speaker 4: He does it and is very effective doing it. There's

1368
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Speaker 4: guys that do it and then they you know, they're

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Speaker 4: nuts that.

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Speaker 2: Good at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pete, you're the best. Congrats to your sun devils too.

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Speaker 3: Want to know, baby, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that wasn't That wasn't very good from what I hear,

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01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 4: it was the speed was terrible on the estm. Plus

1375
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Speaker 4: he couldn't see it. It was the black that I was terrible.

1376
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 4: And then I heard they weren't very good. Tough game.

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01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 4: This is to be stated by the way Brady Austin

1378
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 4: Simmons looked damn good the other night, looked really good

1379
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Speaker 4: the other night.

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Speaker 6: He did, as did a bunch of other guys like

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01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 6: Bryce Underwood, like Maleague Washington, who we've talked about, like CJ. Carr,

1382
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 6: like I can keep going. Yeah, dude, there's a lot

1383
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 6: of good quarterback play right now.

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01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 4: Arch didn't look very good.

1385
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: A Pete Pete quickly, real quick answer. Arizona State Girls Volleyball.

1386
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 5: Your Super Bowl pick before the season starts Thursday's what.

1387
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 4: Ruffalo Green Bay with the Bills winning it?

1388
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. Screw you all right,

1389
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 2: So get him on X at Prisco CBS. You hurt me, right, Yeah? Yeah,

1390
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 2: y'all knocked off the number two Lady Lions and volleyball,

1391
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Speaker 2: so as you did get a big win this past weekend,

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Speaker 2: so we got that going, got that going for you. Yeah,