Speaker 1: Hey, matter of fact, let's get into sports illustration. They
Speaker 1: released the rankings of the top five best rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: performances from week one. So five we had the Bucks quarterback.
Speaker 1: Is that Jayalen Daniels. Who is Jay Long? Not? Jay
Speaker 1: is not? Is not the other one not Jayden is
Speaker 1: Jay Long? Okay, okay, Raven. He had an interception, though,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's too good. He had in twenty four,
Speaker 1: so they ain't twenty two. Yeah, they threw for two
Speaker 1: twenty four, but he also threw a pick. And it's okay,
Speaker 1: all right, we got the Raiders. Your boys are solid.
Speaker 1: He did all right, he did all right, He did
Speaker 1: all right. Oh, Simpsons, fast, Simpson, he's past out. He went,
Speaker 1: he went twenty one for twenty five. He went on
Speaker 1: here got one hundred and ninety two Tudies a one
Speaker 1: twenty five quarterback Raydon that's all right, you know, he
Speaker 1: took the show. They had some boy over there. They
Speaker 1: had some boy over there and name from from the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Stellers, uh named Drew Hollur. He went, He went
Speaker 1: ten to thirteen hundred and fifty three yards to touchdown
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty four point eight quarterback rating and
Speaker 1: he ran one in for a touchdown. Hey, yes, Joe, Joe,
Speaker 1: Hey Joe, that's why that man Jersey immediately sold out
Speaker 1: right after the game. They ain't had no Jersey left.
Speaker 1: Shot gone. It was deservingly so. Man, we got to
Speaker 1: chill it. Pres it's pretas game one. I'm just telling Joe,
Speaker 1: they gotta go at this preseason jersey. Listen, listen, stillers
Speaker 1: Phil real good about Drew out. I feel good about Drought.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, it's still has felt so good about
Speaker 1: Drew that Mike McCarthy says he was us or they
Speaker 1: feel he is a first round pick. Oh, Joe, they
Speaker 1: say the man, the man, the man, the man, the
Speaker 1: man could have been the first round pick or should
Speaker 1: have been the first round pick, however you want to
Speaker 1: put it, Joseph, Joseph, Look, look this is what you
Speaker 1: gotta understand, brother, he said. Mike McCarthy said, quote, when
Speaker 1: we drafted Drew, it said Ali, there go, we felt
Speaker 1: like we were getting a first round pick. That's what
Speaker 1: he said. That's what he said, Joe. And then all
Speaker 1: you people out there talking about why didn't draft me
Speaker 1: in the first round, all that other Bro, you didn't
Speaker 1: listen to the whole concept of what it was said.
Speaker 1: You gotta get into the fine Prince. You gotta listen
Speaker 1: to all of it, he said, based off of his
Speaker 1: junior year. Then he got hurt read a little more. Hell,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think it was a Browns fantastic.
Speaker 1: It had to be a brown fantastic because you know, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all just up here, because it's probably a lot of
Speaker 1: y'all in there right now talking goop of crazy or
Speaker 1: something like that. You know what I'm saying. Listen as
Speaker 1: a Browns fan, I know y'all. You know, y'all need
Speaker 1: to like watching and and and listen like it's it's
Speaker 1: I know, you may not read much, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think that's why like
Speaker 1: Browns fans like, like that's why they bark, because like
Speaker 1: you know how dogs just start barking when you hear
Speaker 1: a sound that's y'all, y'all, don't y'a don't know what
Speaker 1: y'all hearing about bark And then you know, I'm assuming
Speaker 1: like brown fans probably blind because y'all, y'all keeping fan colors. Joe,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was, I was. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I think I had I think I had a round overload. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I had to. It was too much politifically
Speaker 1: being too.
Speaker 2: Nice to a b Now you just want to take
Speaker 2: it out on me because I'm like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: like when you get.
Speaker 1: That food that tastes real, real good, and you just
Speaker 1: keep eating it and eating it until you got to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom and throw up because you know,
Speaker 1: I ate so much. That's where I was anyway, many
Speaker 1: just listen.
Speaker 2: It's the quarterbacks. This is what I realized to when
Speaker 2: I watched our game d ball. I gotta go back
Speaker 2: the depth we we we we don't have too much depth,
Speaker 2: but when our starters are out there, our starters are solid.
Speaker 1: So everybody gotta stay healthy. It wasn't too get I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Still got to get some They still got to get some.
Speaker 1: COMARADERI okay, you that because you ain't even have an
Speaker 1: offensive line when the year first started, that was gone.
Speaker 1: You had nobody we played half to you.
Speaker 2: We did it, we did it, but now we got
Speaker 2: it some comaradi because we gotta get some push on
Speaker 2: these fourth and ones. We like we can't not get
Speaker 2: no push.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't have lootzel Ward and Tight and Campbell.
Speaker 1: They not out there and they going. It's okay, man, listen,
Speaker 1: it's the first game. Man. We we We're done with
Speaker 1: you guys. I'm sorry I went on. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm breaking open wounds and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was. It was just
Speaker 1: I went into a little spill, you know. I just
Speaker 1: I feel better now. I feel better now, you know, Like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we got so we got some good we got, we got,
Speaker 1: we got, we got e Land Dent. Robert's back on
Speaker 1: a one year deal. All right, the Pittsburgh still is
Speaker 1: signed a familiar face that's at linebacker spot, agreeing to
Speaker 1: one year deal with Roberts. We call him E Rob
Speaker 1: played for the Steers in two, twenty three and twenty
Speaker 1: four seasons as a pure run stopper. Here is what
Speaker 1: E Rob had to say on his return. Listen to
Speaker 1: the sound.
Speaker 3: I will want you yet, you know so I can
Speaker 3: only kind of talk about the front seven. But like
Speaker 3: I said, man, my first two days here, it's been
Speaker 3: good for all.
Speaker 1: Why did you want to.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, it's just different plan for the Steelers.
Speaker 3: You know, I want to be back.
Speaker 1: Up, wonder what does Patrick Breham do to help linebackers, like,
Speaker 1: like you say, off ball linebackers communicate and be maybe
Speaker 1: in better control of the defense. Now, Like you know
Speaker 1: his system and I know that these guys been really
Speaker 1: excited to work with.
Speaker 3: I think just because from a linebackers standpoint, he was
Speaker 3: a D line at heart, you know, so the D line,
Speaker 3: you know, he he's big into that, greedy you know,
Speaker 3: obviously he wanted them guys to make plays, but he like, hey,
Speaker 3: I own my backers to be touched and whatnot like that.
Speaker 3: So it's it's a lot of that to where now
Speaker 3: it frees up the linebackers and open up our eyes
Speaker 3: sometimes too, you know, when you're coming downhill, it's it's
Speaker 3: real easy because it's like, I know, you gotta be
Speaker 3: from like let's let's do this, you know, and because
Speaker 3: if you're not putting two hands on these four hands
Speaker 3: on these guys, it's a problem, you know, So you
Speaker 3: know it's time to get busy. But other than that, man,
Speaker 3: them guys gonna give you time, you know, and we're
Speaker 3: not like that. The dissect plays and it's just huge.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what the freedom from a linebacker
Speaker 3: come in as it's not it's not second guessing with
Speaker 3: them big old Joses, you're gonna know when it's play action,
Speaker 3: you're gonna know when it's boot you're gonna get people gonna.
Speaker 1: Be getting pushed back fast.
Speaker 3: And also too, with them just seeing so big and
Speaker 3: massive and him being a d line coach, it's easy
Speaker 3: to identify running past because you know, like I said, man,
Speaker 3: hand's gonna be put on them big ones up front.
Speaker 3: How this ship said, Well, how much are the shame
Speaker 3: in Land and robberts till you bring it back from
Speaker 3: a physicality standpoint.
Speaker 1: From the order Land and Robbers said, we saw two
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 3: I try not to change.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think I changed much, you know, Uh yeah,
Speaker 3: I think, uh man, probably the only thing it's changed. Man,
Speaker 3: I got a little smarter little from a from a
Speaker 3: football standpoint, the more years I mean it, I'm more
Speaker 3: able to get around you know a lot of uh
Speaker 3: good coaches, good defenses to be able to learn different
Speaker 3: systems and seeing different things. So that's the only thing.
Speaker 3: But from a physicality standpoint, I'm always be me.
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner keeps bringing it back every year? Is that you?
Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about that kind of.
Speaker 3: As you get older and he keeps getting better too.
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, I'm not gonna lie right now. I'm
Speaker 3: just being on my feet at but me exiting is
Speaker 3: not not in my thoughts no time soon. So I
Speaker 3: got level there.
Speaker 1: How did you get.
Speaker 3: Me and Jamie with teammates and the Raiders last year?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: And fifty seven was available and uh, me and Jamie
Speaker 3: had a conversation and was able to make it happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah for you again right now, man, I'm just doing
Speaker 3: that was you know, and whatever role comes of that
Speaker 3: comes to that, you know, That's all I can do,
Speaker 3: you know, make the make the reps count that I'm
Speaker 3: in on, and be a good teammate, good leader, and
Speaker 3: uh just come out here every day ready to go.
Speaker 1: Hey Joe, Hey Joe, you see the boy cheesing when
Speaker 1: you're talking about like, Hey, I wanted to come back here.
Speaker 1: Why Because I know what it is about. I know
Speaker 1: what it is supposed to be. I know what a
Speaker 1: Stellers linebacker is. Okay, they brought my man e back
Speaker 1: for just what it was that happened. They had a
Speaker 1: fight going down. Why did they have a fight going down?
Speaker 1: Because he sparked that thing. You know why? He is
Speaker 1: that spark plug in that run game. He's going to
Speaker 1: come down hill and he's smacking and popping in practice
Speaker 1: the whole line. They might not be liking that. The
Speaker 1: line might not be the old line of the running back.
Speaker 1: They got into a little stuff fold. But hey, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: that's what he's supposed to do. That's what they brought
Speaker 1: him back for. You think you think they brought him
Speaker 1: back just they two hands, tad. No, they brought him
Speaker 1: down there to drop old linemen to their knee on
Speaker 1: the way to run through the running backs face mask.
Speaker 1: That's what they brought him back for. This ain't got
Speaker 1: nothing against queen and and dog. Everybody has a skill set, okay.
Speaker 1: And when you're good at your skill set, that's what
Speaker 1: you become known for. Okay. And this is his skill set. Hey.
Speaker 1: And if you looking for somebody that's going to put
Speaker 1: they facing the fan Joe and run through.
Speaker 2: This Hi, Hey, I E I know man, I played there.
Speaker 2: He reminded me, and this is all he wanted to do.
Speaker 2: And his name was Vince Williams, and Vince Williams was
Speaker 2: in there, he knew. He's like, Joe, I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to cover anybody. I'm like, it is alright, bet you
Speaker 2: go ahead to go like I'm just trying to go
Speaker 2: and hit and back on me. If I can get
Speaker 2: to run somebody through their face, That's what I'm trying
Speaker 2: to do every single snap. And Benny knew if they
Speaker 2: were running over there, Vince is gonna come in there
Speaker 2: and try to put anybody to sleep every time. Physicality
Speaker 2: was not never the question. He's like, this, will we
Speaker 2: getting the coverage? Okay, Vince, you know I'm'm gonna lean
Speaker 2: to you. Joe, I'm gonna make sure we come in
Speaker 2: to your side. But with run, he needed no support,
Speaker 2: he needed nothing. I'm ready to go. I know what
Speaker 2: time it is every time. So you need players like
Speaker 2: that that are amazing exactly what they gonna come in
Speaker 2: there to do and smack some.
Speaker 1: Dude. I played with Ian when I went to New
Speaker 1: England in twenty seventeen, dude, and he was smart as
Speaker 1: hell back then, extremely high you know football IQ back
Speaker 1: then and now, hey man, he's a master that. What
Speaker 1: are you talking about and he likes the physical Did
Speaker 1: you see that, Devo?
Speaker 2: He likes you know, you know because when you started
Speaker 2: laughing and smiling, he's talking about the physicality, I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's that's.
Speaker 1: I'm like, look at that, like I don't want. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I used to be like, because he don't.
Speaker 1: He not scared of nothing. He really feels like want.
Speaker 2: Oh listen, any person that runs into him, he's gonna
Speaker 2: knock them back, no matter what. I don't care how
Speaker 2: big you are. I don't care if you if you
Speaker 2: got the ball, no matter what. He's like this, Oh no,
Speaker 2: we're talking about football physicality. I will knock anybody that's
Speaker 2: coming this way. I think I will impose my will.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the first things he asked me, Joe,
Speaker 1: when I went over to New England. He was like, hey,
Speaker 1: how you put so many people to sleep? I said, hey,
Speaker 1: to put somebody to sleep, you gotta be willing to
Speaker 1: go to sleep thousand percent. And let me tell you
Speaker 1: I got. I said, I'm willing to go to sleep.
Speaker 1: I said, that's some of the best rest I done
Speaker 1: ever have. When I went to sleep, I woke up
Speaker 1: feeling good. Joe I woke up feeling good. I welcome, welcome, welcome,
Speaker 1: you welcome that knock Alepsi. And the fact that I
Speaker 1: welcome it is probably why more people went to sleep
Speaker 1: that more than Wand because I won't it. You don't.
Speaker 1: Always didn't believe he was going to go to sleep. Hey, Joe,
Speaker 1: I didn't believe the girl to sleep. No more, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't, Joe.
Speaker 2: See because look, and this is the other thing they
Speaker 2: talking about two D Boat when they're saying like, if
Speaker 2: you're not tackling, that's that doesn't mean that you're still
Speaker 2: not smacking. When you're running up and you see like
Speaker 2: these people, when you hit somebody with your shoulders and
Speaker 2: you just squam up bum, that's imposing your will. You're
Speaker 2: knocking people back off of their feet, off of the bum,
Speaker 2: off of the shoulders. Smack, that's just like that's real, Like,
Speaker 2: oh oh, you're throwing people full backs getting smacked. You
Speaker 2: remember thirty eight on Often when that fullback came down
Speaker 2: there and he folded him and then looking at him,
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not tackle. You didn't have to tackle
Speaker 2: nobody Like, no, you stay off the ground, boom, keep
Speaker 2: telling him stay on his feet like little man.
Speaker 1: Day. Listen, listen, man, don't be running. Don't don't be
Speaker 1: don't be playing no games. Whoever you're running back is
Speaker 1: on this on this next preseason game. I promise you
Speaker 1: my man is out here playing. He will be playing
Speaker 1: this game as if it is the Super Bowl. He
Speaker 1: playing every game as as if it's the super Bowl. Dude.
Speaker 1: And here, listen, I'm trying to tell you he's trying
Speaker 1: to be back in there with Pator Graham. You know
Speaker 1: Pat Graham over there, and uh, that's for the two years.
Speaker 1: That's why you're back back. That's his man. And then
Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna get from. You get what.
Speaker 1: We might need a little bit of somebody to run
Speaker 1: through somebody to okay, I know somebody, yeah, mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: And guess what he's smiling. You need somebody to run
Speaker 1: through somebody's face. Hey, we need nobody run through somebody's faks.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll beat away my flight out. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: gotta do. Wait waiting for let me get off the plane.
Speaker 2: He go to the terminal. He go to the terminal.
Speaker 2: Got that you're holding it right here? Got his name plate, yep.
Speaker 1: Waiting on him that baggage playing question, No question, listen,
Speaker 1: bro I guess von Miller has reportedly agreed to terms
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. Go ahead, von Joe Man thirty seven nights. Look,
Speaker 1: he got nine last year at the Commanders. He got
Speaker 1: nine last last year. I mean that's more than it's
Speaker 1: a lot of people that I know. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: tell you think you think this is gonna help them
Speaker 1: get a playoff win. Brother, varn ain't gonna hurt.
Speaker 2: Varn ain't gonna hurt they get They got von they
Speaker 2: got Williams. He's not gonna hurt the d line. He's
Speaker 2: gonna bring some He's gonna bring some veteran leadership. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the bag is, but I know Vaughn
Speaker 2: trying to still play. He got nine last year, six
Speaker 2: tackles for loss. That's actual production. So like we're gonna
Speaker 2: bring Bond in, you know what I'm saying, So you
Speaker 2: can do it again. But I know bon think he's
Speaker 2: still get them ten. He's still working out, he's still
Speaker 2: he's never stopped, so like it's not like he's coming
Speaker 2: off the couch. Retired. No BOMs played for the Commanders
Speaker 2: last year. Had nine sacks. And six Johns and six
Speaker 2: tackles for loss. So maybe not a like sixteen games startup.
Speaker 2: But man, you're telling me it's third and long. Bon
Speaker 2: got skills. He can go get him some sacks, he
Speaker 2: can make something, He can make something happen. So definitely,
Speaker 2: I don't think if it's like, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 2: bring us over the top, but bond on your team
Speaker 2: is at hurteam.
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I'm not gonna say it's gonna, uh,
Speaker 1: let's gonna get him a playoff man.
Speaker 2: But but if you didn't think, but if you didn't
Speaker 2: think the Cowboys gonna get a playoff win before Vaughn,
Speaker 2: then it's like, all right, maybe not, but you know
Speaker 2: they I still know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. They I ain't seen enough improvements on
Speaker 1: the defense that I feel like it's going to be
Speaker 1: enough production to accommodate the win. That's my that's my
Speaker 1: only go to. But on the offensive side, Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: believes that in twenty twenty six, he and George Pickens
Speaker 1: can be the best ever Joe Joe. They talking about
Speaker 1: better than what we got here. Randy Moss, Chris Carter,
Speaker 1: lef Fiz Dril and Twine Bowden, Isaac Bruce, Tory Hip,
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice and t o Ooh, Jamar Chase and t
Speaker 1: Higgins Joe. Do you think like they can top them? Guys?
Speaker 1: What is that one two three, four five six seven
Speaker 1: one two, three, four, five six seven Is that eight
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the only reason why I think
Speaker 2: he's talking about he's talking about numbers. He's talking about
Speaker 2: numbers because you're talking about individual seasons. That's these this
Speaker 2: is longevity, this is doing it together for a long time.
Speaker 2: If you're looking at Mike, can they outbeat one of
Speaker 2: their seasons? Can both of them go for fifteen hundred
Speaker 2: and ten touchdowns apiece? Then if that's what we're talking about,
Speaker 2: maybe so, because I think CD and George Pickens are
Speaker 2: both ones, you know what I'm saying. And do you
Speaker 2: have Dak Prescott, you're gonna put up His numbers are
Speaker 2: never not extremely high. So I think if they're with
Speaker 2: the offense the way that they put up crazy numbers,
Speaker 2: I think think when you go about Randy Moss, Chris Carter,
Speaker 2: we talk about like longevity, how good if you're talking
Speaker 2: about for.
Speaker 1: One season the numbers they could do it.
Speaker 2: Both of them could put up fifteen hundred and ten
Speaker 2: tuns and then I want to see what how many
Speaker 2: touchdowns in yards that these duos had together. But like
Speaker 2: over a career, Isaac Bruce and Tory Hall when they
Speaker 2: had Isaac King, that's greatest show on turf. That was
Speaker 2: just you knew Kurt Warning and they were doing it
Speaker 2: for years like boys in a row. So that's wh
Speaker 2: when you were Chris Carter and Randy Moss, they was
Speaker 2: ran to cut a Ham and Colepepper. So like if
Speaker 2: you're gonna do it, you're gonna these dudes. They was
Speaker 2: doing it for a long time. It's one season. Maybe
Speaker 2: we have better stats than them. I could. I could
Speaker 2: see it happening for sure because there's two number ones
Speaker 2: on the team. They still haven't been able to pay
Speaker 2: pickings because he about to try to get.
Speaker 1: Forty some a year. You already given CD thirty five.
Speaker 1: So you got two dudes that are legit ones and
Speaker 1: Dak coming back coming up and.
Speaker 2: That getting sixty in years, so he's ready.
Speaker 1: To go and do what you gotta do. Now I
Speaker 1: need seventy Yeah, man, this is y'all want me to
Speaker 1: do y'all want me to stay here? I need setny
Speaker 1: I need I'm dak Presscott Grass ain't always green on
Speaker 1: the side. Give me seventy year. Go go ahead and
Speaker 1: pay somebody else fifty in and see what happened. I'm
Speaker 1: slinging that ball. What y'all go do? Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: do you know who has the highest total total for
Speaker 1: two receivers on the same team. You'll never guess, Bro.
Speaker 2: And it's not on this list now, well now I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have guessed it then.
Speaker 1: Who Detroit Lions nineteen ninety five, Herman Moore and Brett
Speaker 1: Pearman Bruh sixteen sixteen eighty sixteen eighty six or more
Speaker 1: and fourteen eighty eight. Okay, that's what I'm saying. Three
Speaker 1: thirty one thirty one seventy four Yo. Gets to the
Speaker 1: quarterback who was some dude named Scott Mitchell. Forty three
Speaker 1: hundred yards Bro. Forty three hundred yards Bro, ninety five.
Speaker 1: That was a sixteen game schedule, Bro, And then got
Speaker 1: thirty one. Hold up, that ain't it, br That ain't it?
Speaker 1: That ain't it? Barry Sanders still had fifteen hundred rushing
Speaker 1: that year. You want to know something else was horrible
Speaker 1: was the defense trash had to be. They didn't win
Speaker 1: a playoff game.
Speaker 2: Didn't win a playoff That's why very had you know
Speaker 2: why that would get very sick.
Speaker 1: Why, Bro, That's why Barry got about it. You know
Speaker 1: why they didn't win the playoff game. That boy Mitchell
Speaker 1: went up in there and that boy threw two pick
Speaker 1: six is in the playoff game that the first round.
Speaker 1: They were saying, I think he had like four turnover dude.
Speaker 1: Like that was ninety five, bro, Like sixteen game schedule. Bro,
Speaker 1: That's that's what it was. Bro. Like that team had
Speaker 1: so much talent on there. Bro. He never recovered, Bro,
Speaker 1: from that season, from that playoff game. He never recovered
Speaker 1: from the playoff I bet like and Bruh, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to tell you he didn't recover. He ended up having
Speaker 1: more picks than interceptions, like all the way down until
Speaker 1: I think Charlie Basch ended up taking over for him
Speaker 1: in ninety eight, and then Barry was like, I'm out
Speaker 1: of here. Barry was like, I'm out of here. And
Speaker 1: then that was the Detroit ain't had nothing going on
Speaker 1: til the last you know, two three years, three four years,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, like bruh, and I'm with you on
Speaker 1: the like the Burrow and and and and them two
Speaker 1: boys over there. Hey, I think if Burrow had a
Speaker 1: good old line, okay, they would have possibly probably already
Speaker 1: broke that over there because you but also you got
Speaker 1: to have everybody healthy at the same time. But give
Speaker 1: them some block and somebody that's gonna protect get everybody
Speaker 1: healthy plan at the same time. I think they would
Speaker 1: have had that a few years I'm saying, and now
Speaker 1: what I didn't know what the number was.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, if you had two receivers that got
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred, then not to be right around, but it's
Speaker 2: it's thirty one, so they could seventy four. That's in
Speaker 2: ninety bro with so Brandy Moss, Chris Carter, all of
Speaker 2: these La Fish Drill, all of these duos still had
Speaker 2: under that. I mean, I wanted to check and see
Speaker 2: what was the highest that they had because I did not.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that one. Yeah, that's that's there. That's
Speaker 1: why Bro, I would have never thought that. I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: which one of these had it? And I went and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt, like bringing a
Speaker 2: bunch of times and I don't think I think Tory Holt.
Speaker 1: Averages like thirteen hundred yards receiven Like, yeah, it's crazy, bro,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Look here, you know what else is crazy?
Speaker 1: Bag bag and the highest paid corner in Seattle, that
Speaker 1: bag of my goodness, the dominant performance in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl win in February, three times Pro Bowl cornerback Devin
Speaker 1: Willis Spoon and the Seahattle Seahawks agreed reached an agreement
Speaker 1: for a four year hunting thirty two million dollar extension.
Speaker 1: That contract includes one hundred and one million dollar guarantee,
Speaker 1: making Willis Swoon the highest paid corner in the NFL. Joe, Sir,
Speaker 1: his still being signed, him resetting the market? What is
Speaker 1: going to happen with us over here? With Neshew is
Speaker 1: not looking good? This is what I want to figure out. Though.
Speaker 2: It gets to the point where the Steelers, I understand,
Speaker 2: it's like you want to sign them earlier than later
Speaker 2: because there ain't nothing going to happen. But the baggage
Speaker 2: is going to continue to go up. The salary cap
Speaker 2: is going to continue to go up. So our first
Speaker 2: I'm looking at like the twenty five if we get
Speaker 2: to get him. But under twenty five to twenty five
Speaker 2: to twenty six to twenty seven, I was hoping I
Speaker 2: was going to be the sweet area.
Speaker 1: I ain't.
Speaker 2: No, it's more what I'm saying, the longer that you wait,
Speaker 2: the more that it's going to go up. And I
Speaker 2: don't know, like when when you have a corner, like
Speaker 2: like Joey Porter Jr. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: he signed four nine million dollars four years ago. He's
Speaker 2: been playing way above that market. So we know that
Speaker 2: he's been doing nothing but getting better. And it's time
Speaker 2: to all these dudes like Butherspoon, Stingley, as certain Horn,
Speaker 2: the boys, the dudes that are balling. There's nothing going
Speaker 2: to be nothing's going to happen, but the contracts are
Speaker 2: going to go up. So you're getting thirty three million
Speaker 2: dollars a year now. I just hope that we can
Speaker 2: get Joey Porter signed before. I mean now, I don't know,
Speaker 2: because when we were thinking that when I was twenty
Speaker 2: five at first.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, who knows that I can't. I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't, I can't. I can't go for
Speaker 1: less than twenty eight now and honestly thirty what we
Speaker 1: got in the cat? What we got in the cat? Bro,
Speaker 1: we just signed and we just signed because we just
Speaker 1: signed they have been we just signed him. I know,
Speaker 1: I don't think we got number maybe four five million
Speaker 1: in the cap. You know me, you know me.
Speaker 2: You know you don't believe in that cat.
Speaker 1: Dude. You cannot believe in the cab, bro, but the
Speaker 1: CA Okay, so I don't believe it. Bro. What did
Speaker 1: I say? What did I say? Bro? I said, I
Speaker 1: said a while ago, I said, oh, I said you
Speaker 1: know what? I said, Oh no, they might be. And
Speaker 1: then you was I was like, no, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: say He was like, yeah, say it. Then I said it,
Speaker 1: and You're like, oh no, no, no, no, don't say that.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you it's starting to look like
Speaker 1: that might be the Moons. I don't know. I hope
Speaker 1: it's not, but it's starting to look like that might
Speaker 1: be the move. He I know, I feel I know,
Speaker 1: I know. It's it's crazy. Lead you the corner, you nephew,
Speaker 1: I nephew. I'm feeling I'm feeling under value.
Speaker 2: I'm not feeling appreciated because at the same time there's
Speaker 2: people in your locker room that came in to join
Speaker 2: the same time as you, and it's like, I didn't
Speaker 2: do nothing different we got and it's not like they
Speaker 2: are not ill deserving. Everybody that got paid is balling,
Speaker 2: is doing the thing that they are in house people.
Speaker 2: So it's like, Okay, you're taking care of home, but
Speaker 2: I'm home, like I'm home grown. I'm I'm a little
Speaker 2: peasy popsle was even here and not even nothing to
Speaker 2: do with that.
Speaker 1: But I'm the starting corner.
Speaker 2: I've been balling, increasing my plate every single year and
Speaker 2: now like I'm out the way, I don't get in trouble.
Speaker 2: I don't do nothing, but my players, My players increased.
Speaker 2: Nick Herbert wasn't starting, and I'm one to He's making
Speaker 2: one hundred million to twenty five million dollars a year,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The third, the third outside linebacker.
Speaker 2: We got Tja and forty and then we got Heighsmith
Speaker 2: that came in a seventeen to five and he's now
Speaker 2: on it trying to go ball out.
Speaker 1: Everybody got to go ball Everybody understands.
Speaker 2: The league is the league, but it's like when you
Speaker 2: seeing other people in there that darn Washington coming in
Speaker 2: which he's making his bread. Now twelve, when you're sitting
Speaker 2: there and you out to you're balling. You've been doing
Speaker 2: your part. This contra he's signing now isn't for what
Speaker 2: you're about to do. It's because that these contracts are
Speaker 2: what you what you've done for me already. You you
Speaker 2: bought out your first contract what you do in college,
Speaker 2: So that's how you get to your rookie deal. You
Speaker 2: sign that because that's only what you're done in college.
Speaker 2: They don't have nothing to go off of. Your second
Speaker 2: contract is what you did those first three years, Like,
Speaker 2: that's you can pay for that for what I just
Speaker 2: did that time. So now if you continue to potential,
Speaker 2: that's when you go get the new one, because it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got it, you've already It's always it's always whatever
Speaker 2: you've already done.
Speaker 1: So now when you.
Speaker 2: As soon as you start slipping, they like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: on the next deal. You're tripping. You're not playing at
Speaker 2: that high level because once you start making forty million
Speaker 2: a year, oh that's your norm. But you better not
Speaker 2: go down because that's your next contract.
Speaker 1: We talk about yeap brother. It's a tricky situation. I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at it from the outside in with no
Speaker 1: real detail dates, you know, just from what I'm seeing,
Speaker 1: the way things are moving's left there was not there.
Speaker 1: What is happened with as happened? This is really looking
Speaker 1: positive for a situation where everything ends up working out
Speaker 1: in the end. And you know, I don't know worst
Speaker 1: case scenario. You know, what do they do? He says, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I won't play. They keep him and then they
Speaker 1: end up have to get rid of him next year,
Speaker 1: or they lose him next year, whatever that may be,
Speaker 1: or they going you know, keep him and end up
Speaker 1: having to trade him just to get a value for him.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tricky situation. We go see how
Speaker 1: I roll out, but we're going to see how something
Speaker 1: else roll out too. I guess Aaron Donald done worked
Speaker 1: out with the Rams again, you know, like, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 1: This is the second time this summer Aaron Donald was
Speaker 1: listed on the NFL's transaction wire and having to work
Speaker 1: out with the Rams. The Rams head coach Seaman bay
Speaker 1: to portis yesterday. We've had great dialogue. It's going to
Speaker 1: be on his timeline. It's going to be on Aaron's timeline.
Speaker 1: You know, if Aaron does decide he wants to do it,
Speaker 1: I've been very open that we want to try to
Speaker 1: explore that opportunity. I feel great about our football team
Speaker 1: as it currently stands, and I know he'll add value
Speaker 1: if he decides to come Shoe. Do you think a
Speaker 1: d is coming back? I think he is.
Speaker 2: I think he's taking his time. Yeah, they're like, I
Speaker 2: think it's gonna come back. It's not just gonna keep
Speaker 2: doing the in and out for no reason why, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think he would probably come back to
Speaker 2: play with just I think maybe he still got a
Speaker 2: little a little itch, like if you weren't coming in
Speaker 2: there working out, then it wouldn't make any sense. Then
Speaker 2: you would just stay away from the game. But I
Speaker 2: guess he's like this, you know what, got one more
Speaker 2: left there, and he probably thinks that the team is
Speaker 2: a special team. Like you said, if he comes back
Speaker 2: and doesn't win the Super Bowl, it came back and
Speaker 2: didn't win the Super Bowl, he still tried tried it,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like he.
Speaker 1: I can't come back and not win the Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's not gonna go try.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he's not gonna being that, but they
Speaker 2: got a squad, they got a model.
Speaker 1: You can't not you can't come back and not win it.
Speaker 2: He's still gonna be pres because you already they already.
Speaker 1: Been annoying it as the ass as the favorites to win.
Speaker 1: And now you're telling me you done got one of
Speaker 1: the coldest to ever do it back and you don't
Speaker 1: win it along with the best player in defense from
Speaker 1: last year. Huh. You know they gonna take at least
Speaker 1: foe up on the line. We passed blocking what you mean,
Speaker 1: we go one one on angle work. They gotta do
Speaker 1: mother with four man rash. That's what I'm saying. Now
Speaker 1: you add a fifth as a blizzard. Now they got
Speaker 1: to sit in they max protecting just coming back. I
Speaker 1: hope he's not coming back. I hope you're a man
Speaker 1: in this word and say, you know, he ain't had
Speaker 1: nothing else to prove. You know, that's what I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'll speak to you, Ego,
Speaker 1: you know, but hey, if I'm going with what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing in front of me, that's what I'm saying, Debo,
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing in front what I'm seeing in front
Speaker 1: of me. You going what you hope that he told
Speaker 1: you is the truth. I'm like, I don't like pulling
Speaker 1: up to the facility putting the helmet on. Hey, he
Speaker 1: coming back and he's playing with me, coming back and
Speaker 1: he's playing with me for clicks and likes or something.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, ad guys need to do. Man,
Speaker 1: he was gonna be chilling.
Speaker 2: I ain't even heard from him in a while, and
Speaker 2: next thing you know, he keeps popping up with helmet on,
Speaker 2: doing the ladder drills, looking like he's getting ready to
Speaker 2: play football.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, bruh, he ain't playing. Don't nobody play like that?
Speaker 1: Who you know play like that? Don't nobody. We don't
Speaker 1: want to back you said, you said he had a
Speaker 1: good Oh, let's chat talk about coach. What is that?
Speaker 1: Is it? Frank franchick friend franchise key two dollars. We
Speaker 1: need dB help in Cleveland, a B please make that
Speaker 1: cause y'all need help Cleveland. We don't have too much depth,
Speaker 1: but we are starting.
Speaker 2: Our starting dbs are fire, so we just need Like
Speaker 2: he's saying that, we may we may need a little depth.
Speaker 2: We may need one more. We may need one more Nickel. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you know, because Denzel Award and Tyson Campbell are strapping.
Speaker 1: We have number top one two corner cornerback tandem. Oh
Speaker 1: you need you need some backup. So that's what we're saying.
Speaker 1: That's what we're saying.
Speaker 2: What she's talking about backup, we got we gotta gotta
Speaker 2: be drafted last year, you know what I'm saying. Doing
Speaker 2: pretty good. So we're gonna see. But it's no it's
Speaker 2: no setting song.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's go on down here at Foxy Mama
Speaker 1: ten dollars. She said. In my opinion, I don't think
Speaker 1: your door is ready. I'm not taking any away. I'm
Speaker 1: not taking away any of his talent. He needs to
Speaker 1: observe a seasoned veteran and stop trying to prove he's ready.
Speaker 1: I guess, Dylan, I guess it's not. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't think. M hmm, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's not ready. I just think right now, Dylan,
Speaker 1: obviously he's not the running, but watching it just looked
Speaker 1: better and he ain't played in two years, and that's
Speaker 1: what the performance. I get compared to the performance I
Speaker 1: got from the door, I'm I'm leaning to I'm leaning
Speaker 1: to watching yep. I mean.
Speaker 2: I could I'm going to say that he's not ready.
Speaker 2: I would just yet from that performance, I would say, yes,
Speaker 2: I think he needs to get definitely a little step
Speaker 2: a step quicker, and I think just let's see him
Speaker 2: played with the ones and let's see how that looks. First,
Speaker 2: Let's get him both of a chance to play with
Speaker 2: the same line, the same receivers, the same talent around
Speaker 2: him to be able to get that production off.
Speaker 1: So then after that be able to go.
Speaker 2: But I do think that I was expecting a little
Speaker 2: bit lou bit more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was definitely expecting more from Sudor,
Speaker 1: and I was not expecting as much from Washington. That's
Speaker 1: what that's Yes, honestly matter matters of the heart. Jay
Speaker 1: five dollars. I've been binge watching Blimpy with my daughter
Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, and then I came across this
Speaker 1: episode with Joe on there. Man, I would have never
Speaker 1: watched Blippy with your children.
Speaker 2: Pull up the episode where Joe Hayden teaches the kids
Speaker 2: how to play cornerback, defensive cornerback it's like a kids show.
Speaker 1: It's a dude. Blippy is a person that.
Speaker 2: He goes around and like does little like things like
Speaker 2: shows him how to color, show kids how to draw
Speaker 2: different things.
Speaker 1: And he came to a cartoon. No, no, he's a real person.
Speaker 1: He's a real person. Blippy put on the little fit
Speaker 1: come through the crib. Everybody knows Blippy.
Speaker 2: Blippy pulled up to my because my kids was watching Blippy.
Speaker 2: So I ended up getting in touch with Blippy and
Speaker 2: then we did a show together. They came to the
Speaker 2: house and I had Blippy and I was teaching them
Speaker 2: how to play cornerback. So if you look up Joe
Speaker 2: Hayden with Blippy, great episode. A lot of people pull
Speaker 2: up with me and say that they seen me on
Speaker 2: it when they just watch them with their kids. Had
Speaker 2: this was in twenty seven, twenty eighteen. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: did a twenty eighteen when I was still in the league.
Speaker 2: De Ball still actually was like, oh yeah, Joe Hayden.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't care about that. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: figure out when it was because.
Speaker 2: It was in eighteen out in LA and it's on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Blippy, Joe Hayden, Blip Blip Joe Hayden lest y'all go
Speaker 1: see got kids man, had fard All said, Joe, you
Speaker 1: should have told ay Be. We have a pride. We
Speaker 1: have a surplus of quarterbacks with Will Howard maybe will
Speaker 1: Will Howard maybe number sixteen our future starter. That shirt
Speaker 1: spired Debo Hill. Yeah, thank you, thanks very much, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Joe. Look, I'm talking. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about I get Joe, Joe, Listen, listen. I'll tell you what, Hey,
Speaker 1: I tell you what we'll do for you. Man. Whichever
Speaker 1: one we don't end up keeping with with.
Speaker 2: I'm still Look, I don't don't even act like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I still believe in maybe a third gonna be good.
Speaker 2: We just got to get this line to protect them,
Speaker 2: and then he gonna get out there with them with
Speaker 2: my boys.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And just come on store,
Speaker 1: let's go tight passes. Okay, where is she? He saying
Speaker 1: he's back two dollars, he said j P. J Joey
Speaker 1: Porter Jr. Gonna be the Stealers highest paid corner.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll hope some facts high speak on her. They
Speaker 2: probably don't.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that. I'm go with that. High
Speaker 1: stillers take corn. That's why you got you gotta find that.
Speaker 1: I like how you define that right across like that,
Speaker 1: he concentthe I got you, Mike. Mike one hundred fired
Speaker 1: out said, what up? D Boye and Joe, y'all might
Speaker 1: as well come back for the that's the little that's that's.
Speaker 2: The same with a little rotational role to get a
Speaker 2: ring with the Rams.
Speaker 1: What is Mike Mike talking about? Y'all might as well
Speaker 1: come back for the Rams to play a little rotational
Speaker 1: role and get a rowd. Mike, I ain't ring. What's
Speaker 1: all to the to the band wagon? Hey, man, I
Speaker 1: don't accomplish all I needed to accomplish. Man, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'll go get look at the Browns or the Stellers
Speaker 1: get one. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 2: I promise you I get the real band wagon if
Speaker 2: I just listen, bro, if I got the up in
Speaker 2: that monkey see strapped.
Speaker 1: Up, y'all go give me a ring? I got. I
Speaker 1: can't do that this us it's DEEPO and Joe the
Speaker 1: unofficial show for the pistos Burgh's Band. Wait up, you're
Speaker 1: what I said? Or the Unofficial We got comany live.
Speaker 3: She bad.
Speaker 1: He said, twenty dollars. She said, Joe, are we still
Speaker 1: calling Cleveland a serious threat? Or did that thirty four
Speaker 1: to ten loss exposed more questions than answers, And with
Speaker 1: Watson versus your door still going on, who do you
Speaker 1: trust when the games actually count? Man cover the nice
Speaker 1: cat de bou. I know my game, My hat game
Speaker 1: is pack up out now. I did look so John,
Speaker 1: thirty four to ten, that was just you know.
Speaker 2: You can't take the season, take the preseason games that serious.
Speaker 2: Not everybody starters out there were playing basic ball.
Speaker 1: So maybe like there's no real schemes. We're looking at
Speaker 1: nobody really, we're looking at execution. Nobody really executed, especially
Speaker 1: your offensive line. And your not letting me answer. Oh
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm just talking. I'm saying it was not
Speaker 1: as good it was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't trust me, it wasn't as good as I
Speaker 2: wanted it to be at all.
Speaker 1: But one thing I can.
Speaker 2: Tell you was the offensive line we got, We got
Speaker 2: time for them to jail, get them together, and then
Speaker 2: when our starters.
Speaker 1: Were out there at the office, it wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: no game. They don't need to jail or nothing. You
Speaker 1: just need to backups.
Speaker 2: Once it got down to the second and third, then
Speaker 2: they started getting it started looking difficult. That's what I'm
Speaker 2: looking at. That's I'm telling you my depth from the game.
Speaker 2: I can say that what I wanted line that what
Speaker 2: I wanted to be.
Speaker 1: The next question. We got to jail together. It was no, Wow, you.
Speaker 2: Just going on man, because you're going you're trying to
Speaker 2: jump on me.
Speaker 1: I'm we I can't. Oh my goodness, I can't wait
Speaker 1: for the second thing, man, Foxy Mama four one two
Speaker 1: folk three two one. She back two dollars. She said,
Speaker 1: I wish y'all came to the Falcons training camp. Yo, Joe,
Speaker 1: we might go to the all like that. We might
Speaker 1: go to the Ay God, we might.
Speaker 3: We might.
Speaker 1: We might go to the talent. Let's see Covenant like
Speaker 1: that came back through the covenylight came back through five hours.
Speaker 1: She said, just come to Atlanta and I will treat
Speaker 1: see that. I got. Oh yeah, let's cover it that
Speaker 1: over there you over there by that mountain, Okay, coven
Speaker 1: the lights you over there by that mountain. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: like you.
Speaker 2: But we might want to do the for real for
Speaker 2: real like next year, a training camp tour. Just try
Speaker 2: to hit one like a couple of little this team
Speaker 2: definitely Brown's obviously hitting the Stellers.
Speaker 1: With the good weathers, we can be out. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to hit the Stillers. Guy, hit the Bengals in
Speaker 1: the Ravens, because let's hit all the teams that you
Speaker 1: played for them, because we gottis over here. I gotta
Speaker 1: hit the Patriots too, then I'm down. I would love
Speaker 1: to go see how they how they how they operate.
Speaker 1: We run that tight.
Speaker 2: Certain though they de bit, they're gonna have us.
Speaker 1: They gonna have me behind the ropes. M man a
Speaker 1: couple of lives. She said, you have to take these
Speaker 1: pre five dollars. You have to take these preseason games
Speaker 1: serious because that's who you are picking. That's that's because
Speaker 1: that's who you are picking. That's the people you're picking
Speaker 1: for your core. It's what she's saying, cover them, my Joe,
Speaker 1: trying to tell you my Joe starts. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell you covered our starters. A lot of the Browns
Speaker 1: are main first starters. They weren't even out there, they
Speaker 1: didn't play all. So I understand we.
Speaker 2: Get to get our court them as the people that
Speaker 2: were figuring out they're gonna make the team. We're keeping
Speaker 2: up a lot more players than we had at all
Speaker 2: that should have been out there.
Speaker 1: So what about your offensive line? Okay, fan, no play good?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I want to know who
Speaker 1: was out there that wasn't a starter, Who wasn't out
Speaker 1: there that wasn't the start? I think we had maybe one,
Speaker 1: maybe one? Uh huh. They got a jail. They got
Speaker 1: a jail, got a jail. Wasn't no stunting twist games
Speaker 1: what they're jailing for? Joe, every man, Man, Debo, Come on, man,
Speaker 1: every man, I'm gonna have way better. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: way way.
Speaker 2: Lets you stay way more better answers after the second game,
Speaker 2: the first.
Speaker 1: One, the same way, the same way. We didn't. We
Speaker 1: didn't just jump on way Hey listen, y'all, Jobo had
Speaker 1: way way more better. Because right now that's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna go with.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Look here, we don't. We don't. We don't went way
Speaker 1: over here. Man. We want to thank y'all for joining
Speaker 1: us on this episode The Debo and Joe. Please make
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Speaker 1: you to Andrew Berry. Man had a great time. Man,
Speaker 1: appreciate you. You doing your thing.
Speaker 2: Joe, see y'all. Tomorrow's same time, same place. Let's get it.