WEBVTT - Lanterns S1E08 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:01.180 Warning! 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:07.200 Today's episode contains spoilers for the season finale of Lanterns 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:07.780 on HBO. 0:00:07.900 --> 0:00:18.189 Be warned. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:24.460 Hello! 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:25.880 My name is Jason Concepcion. 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:27.260 And I'm Rosie Knight. 0:00:27.730 --> 0:00:29.610 And welcome back to Extra Vision, the podcast where we 0:00:29.630 --> 0:00:31.750 dive deep into your favorite movies, comics, and pop culture 0:00:31.790 --> 0:00:33.630 coming to you from our heart, where we're bringing you 0:00:33.770 --> 0:00:35.170 three episodes a week. 0:00:36.909 --> 0:00:37.690 Plus news, okay? Plus news. 0:00:38.270 --> 0:00:41.690 In today's episode, we are breaking down that lantern's finale. 0:00:42.030 --> 0:00:45.830 Did it land? Who was the killer? Does it matter? 0:00:45.870 --> 0:00:50.200 Were they punished? We will be breaking it all down. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.520 And talking about how it will lead in to Man 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.820 of Tomorrow and the rest of James Gunn's DCU. 0:00:58.940 --> 0:01:05.289 Okay, Lanterns. Season finale. We open in 2016, the aftermath 0:01:05.330 --> 0:01:06.530 of the Battle of Rushville. 0:01:07.110 --> 0:01:08.730 Sorry to the town. Fucked. 0:01:09.690 --> 0:01:15.880 The water tower is collapsed. The buildings are in ruins. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:20.600 There's body parts in the street. There's bullet casings everywhere. 0:01:21.180 --> 0:01:26.130 We see John walk out of the motel. carrying Hal's 0:01:26.190 --> 0:01:31.450 lantern after sniping Zoe the Manhunter in the head, his girlfriend. 0:01:32.970 --> 0:01:36.610 The militia guys run up and they're about to, I 0:01:36.650 --> 0:01:39.940 don't know, just maybe vigilante justice him right there in 0:01:39.950 --> 0:01:42.000 the street. But Carrie comes. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.160 Up and is like, stand down! 0:01:43.819 --> 0:01:46.520 And they all stand down. And she's like, where's Hal? 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:51.960 He points her to Hal. Hal is lying still in 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.880 the ruins of the motel having been beat up by 0:01:55.980 --> 0:02:00.550 Jon Stewart. He's bloody. He's just kind of half out 0:02:00.610 --> 0:02:03.710 of it. She gives him the update. Basically, it's really bad. 0:02:03.970 --> 0:02:07.770 Town's fucked. A lot of people dead. We won't know 0:02:08.010 --> 0:02:11.350 how many for a while. And then she asks him, 0:02:11.790 --> 0:02:16.709 was it worth it? And So what is what was 0:02:16.810 --> 0:02:20.150 what worth it? I understand what like killing the Manhunter. 0:02:20.210 --> 0:02:21.910 Is that what she's asking? 0:02:21.930 --> 0:02:25.820 I think what she's actually asking here is this is 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:30.660 an acknowledgement between her and him. Like, was it worth 0:02:30.700 --> 0:02:34.060 what's about to happen for protecting my son? Like she's saying, like, 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.040 is it worth it to love me? That's what I 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.470 think she's asking. I think she's basically like, fuck, well, 0:02:39.490 --> 0:02:42.250 you've done it now. And yeah, sure. They do think 0:02:42.290 --> 0:02:44.610 she's the only manhunter and like, was it worth it? 0:02:44.669 --> 0:02:48.290 And he's basically like, well, yeah, let's talk about your 0:02:48.330 --> 0:02:50.540 worth it. Let's talk about this because I agree with 0:02:50.580 --> 0:02:54.880 that read. However, narratively blurry this episode. I think we 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:56.200 can say that in general. 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.899 I will say, let's pause here to just say this. 0:03:00.660 --> 0:03:05.690 I think that, perhaps because of budgetary reasons, this season, 0:03:06.250 --> 0:03:09.640 which is a really good and almost great season of television, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.420 was very much like edited and re-edited and chopped and 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.480 screwed and put in different order. All of which is 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.670 to say, hold on, Rosie, your reading, I think, is right. 0:03:20.470 --> 0:03:22.709 And that will play out over the rest of this 0:03:22.750 --> 0:03:25.450 conversation that we're going to talk about. But when you 0:03:25.490 --> 0:03:31.620 get to the end of the episode, Mm-hmm. It seems 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:36.200 as if Hal finds out then that Noah is a Manhunter, 0:03:36.220 --> 0:03:38.540 but it does seem here that he knows it now 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.890 and there's an unspoken thing between them. So all I 0:03:41.910 --> 0:03:44.710 wish is to say, I think they edited this entire 0:03:44.790 --> 0:03:48.810 season in a way to cover up whether, you know, 0:03:48.870 --> 0:03:52.779 budgetary restrictions, whatever it was in order to make it cohesive. 0:03:53.220 --> 0:03:55.380 And it largely did that. But there are a lot 0:03:55.420 --> 0:03:58.660 of things that ring strange. 0:03:58.420 --> 0:04:00.450 When you look at it. I just want to say, 0:04:00.540 --> 0:04:02.200 I agree with you. And look, all I want to 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.060 say is one of my takes that annoyed everybody the 0:04:05.100 --> 0:04:08.020 most this season was that episode three felt like it 0:04:08.060 --> 0:04:10.220 wasn't the third episode. And I want to say that 0:04:10.260 --> 0:04:12.090 I feel like at the end of this season, I 0:04:12.650 --> 0:04:16.670 have been validated that this show definitely was in a 0:04:16.710 --> 0:04:20.090 different order. We don't know what order, but I'm excited 0:04:20.430 --> 0:04:22.910 as we learn more because I do think, and we're 0:04:22.930 --> 0:04:24.430 going to talk about this more as we talk about 0:04:24.450 --> 0:04:27.250 the show, the performances are so good. 0:04:27.270 --> 0:04:27.680 So good. 0:04:27.950 --> 0:04:28.180 Yeah. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.600 That it really elevates the show out of what are 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:36.080 some clear, like plotting issues, pacing issues and choices to 0:04:36.100 --> 0:04:38.880 do with, like you said, I think budgetary issues. Cause 0:04:38.900 --> 0:04:41.920 there is not a lot of Green Lantern action. They 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.159 very much heavily played on this kind of murder mystery, 0:04:44.180 --> 0:04:47.200 but then does that pay off? It's really interesting to see, 0:04:47.500 --> 0:04:51.219 but again, these three core performances just keep us going 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:51.760 through it. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:57.539 So good. So, um, she asks, was it worth it? 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.800 He says, it's funny you say that because I asked 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:07.000 Jon Stewart the same thing. She asks, because again, protecting 0:05:07.050 --> 0:05:11.790 her son, what will the Guardians say? And seeming as 0:05:11.870 --> 0:05:15.730 if Hal understands the subtext of her question, that she's 0:05:15.790 --> 0:05:20.729 concerned about her son, he says, well, the Guardians are 0:05:20.750 --> 0:05:24.040 going to be happy because a Manhunter is dead. They're 0:05:24.060 --> 0:05:26.380 going to be unhappy because I broke the rules to 0:05:26.420 --> 0:05:30.029 make that happen. But when I take the full rap 0:05:30.089 --> 0:05:32.530 for this and go away to prison, they're not going 0:05:32.550 --> 0:05:38.089 to have much incentive to look any further. Essentially, he's saying, hey, 0:05:38.610 --> 0:05:40.690 don't worry about it. Your son is safe. That's what 0:05:40.750 --> 0:05:41.789 it seems like to me. 0:05:42.150 --> 0:05:44.940 What if actually I give a different read because as 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.300 we're breaking it down, I'm working. I think this could 0:05:47.540 --> 0:05:51.420 narratively work with the timeline. What if right now he 0:05:51.460 --> 0:05:55.230 thinks Kerry is the manhunter? And that's who he's trying 0:05:55.290 --> 0:05:59.050 to protect. He can just tell that there's something else 0:05:59.130 --> 0:06:02.360 going on. So his bigger thing is just don't investigate. 0:06:02.420 --> 0:06:04.320 So it's not that he knows it's Noah, which would 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:08.659 explain why he's still surprised. It's just that in that moment, 0:06:08.700 --> 0:06:10.680 he's like, they're not going to investigate anymore. You can 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.610 keep whatever weird shit you've got going on here. If 0:06:13.650 --> 0:06:17.620 you're a manhunter, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. I think, And 0:06:17.660 --> 0:06:20.300 then obviously the love story goes from there, but something 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.480 that I think we both agree on, Jason, not enough 0:06:22.500 --> 0:06:22.920 of that on. 0:06:22.900 --> 0:06:26.960 The page for me. Again, you put your finger right 0:06:27.060 --> 0:06:32.500 on it. Kyle Chandler, Kelly MacDonald, and Aaron Pierre absolutely 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:37.910 killed this, carried it, and they were so good. 0:06:38.070 --> 0:06:38.570 However. 0:06:39.940 --> 0:06:42.870 for this love story to like, they make this love 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.730 story work when there's nothing on the page. There's like, 0:06:46.370 --> 0:06:49.350 it's like, they just kind of fall in love and 0:06:49.410 --> 0:06:53.290 their performance lets you buy it. But there's none of 0:06:53.410 --> 0:06:56.930 the kind of like hard work of like building that 0:06:56.990 --> 0:07:00.330 relationship really on the screen. Because then we fast forward 0:07:00.330 --> 0:07:04.130 10 years, Carrie, who is now deeply in love with 0:07:04.270 --> 0:07:07.800 Al is waiting for him outside of prison. She's brought 0:07:07.820 --> 0:07:12.830 Schlitz beer. Um, She then drives off with him back 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.760 to Rushville. They are eating. It's been like a week 0:07:15.820 --> 0:07:17.540 or a couple of weeks or something. They're eating at 0:07:17.580 --> 0:07:21.480 the local pizza restaurant. Everybody in the literally everybody in 0:07:21.500 --> 0:07:25.460 the restaurant is staring daggers into Hal. And he's like, fuck, 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.000 you know, maybe this was a bad idea. You know, like, 0:07:28.420 --> 0:07:30.000 should we have gone public so soon? She's like, I 0:07:30.020 --> 0:07:31.120 don't want to sneak around anymore. 0:07:31.140 --> 0:07:34.090 And it's been 10 years. Yeah. 0:07:34.490 --> 0:07:36.390 For 10 years to be sneaking around. And now for 0:07:36.430 --> 0:07:38.740 two weeks in town, she's been sneaking around. So she 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.720 stands up and she makes this speech basically saying, hey, 0:07:42.830 --> 0:07:46.090 I understand that because of the brutal destruction of the 0:07:46.150 --> 0:07:48.500 town and the deaths of many of your loved ones 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.040 and the fact that you no longer receive free medical 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.300 care from the Manhunter, you hate this man. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.640 But he dicks me down really good, so he's here. 0:07:58.300 --> 0:08:01.530 And we've been letter writing each other for 20 years 0:08:01.630 --> 0:08:05.210 and the anticipation is crazy. Like, come on, guys. What 0:08:05.250 --> 0:08:10.100 was she expecting? This is so... Also, can I just say, Kerry, 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.640 you are kind of sly because this has also got 0:08:13.660 --> 0:08:15.679 like a... I do have a kind of Gone Girl 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.970 read on this where like, Kerry is always telling everyone 0:08:19.030 --> 0:08:21.870 how much everyone hated Hal, but is that true? Or 0:08:21.930 --> 0:08:23.970 is that just what she tells everyone because she fucking 0:08:23.990 --> 0:08:27.030 killed him? Like, we don't actually know if these people 0:08:27.070 --> 0:08:30.250 hated Hal. Like, this is just her journal version of it. 0:08:30.510 --> 0:08:34.240 Because you are the killer. You're just making up suspects. 0:08:34.290 --> 0:08:40.240 So she makes that speech, which everyone does not accept, but. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.679 It keeps everybody quiet in that moment. 0:08:42.740 --> 0:08:44.580 She's like, listen, you're going to have to deal with it. Like, 0:08:45.020 --> 0:08:48.070 his dick is real good. And it was worth waiting 0:08:48.070 --> 0:08:48.570 10 years. 0:08:48.570 --> 0:08:51.989 10 years in jail? Like, what was this man saying? 0:08:53.070 --> 0:08:57.800 So later, after some great sex, apparently, Hal would like 0:08:57.860 --> 0:09:01.420 Carrie to stay, but she can't yet because of Noah. 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.110 Kind of cold to not stay after the first post-conjugal 0:09:05.170 --> 0:09:07.810 sex of 10 years. She just walks straight out after. 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.459 She's hardcore. That's how you know about Sheriff Kerry. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.000 That's why he probably thinks she's the manhunter. True. 0:09:13.020 --> 0:09:15.459 It's also probably why he thinks she's hot. Because she 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:16.740 won't sleep in the bed. 0:09:17.059 --> 0:09:19.540 So she's like, no, I can't because of Noah. And 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.760 he's like, well, Noah probably knows about us. And he's like, yeah, 0:09:22.830 --> 0:09:28.350 but there's a difference between knowing and knowing. Accepting, yeah. 0:09:28.929 --> 0:09:31.490 I don't want him to wake up alone yet. Later, 0:09:33.010 --> 0:09:35.790 after she leaves, Hal is preparing Earl's meal when his 0:09:35.870 --> 0:09:42.030 home is firebombed. And Earl is screaming horribly as Hal 0:09:42.090 --> 0:09:44.569 is running to and fro trying to find like a 0:09:44.630 --> 0:09:46.670 window he can jump out of or something. But the 0:09:47.110 --> 0:09:49.690 flames are growing too high and he can't get to 0:09:49.730 --> 0:09:52.670 the front door. It's curtains for him and Earl. And 0:09:52.710 --> 0:09:55.910 it certainly seems like he dies. And I will say 0:09:55.970 --> 0:09:59.970 here's another place where now we know that Earl survived. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.080 because we see that John when he comes to Rushville 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.750 in 2026 like that yeah Earl's there but also can 0:10:07.809 --> 0:10:09.929 I it does seem like Earl dies in this moment 0:10:09.970 --> 0:10:13.890 because there is no closure about it there you don't 0:10:13.950 --> 0:10:16.120 see where he is I need. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.640 To understand what happened to Hal Jordan's other house and 0:10:18.660 --> 0:10:23.710 his money. Because why is he living brokely in the 0:10:23.750 --> 0:10:26.510 town when he had that giant ass house that somebody 0:10:26.550 --> 0:10:28.329 gave him? He could have sold that house. 0:10:28.770 --> 0:10:31.250 He probably sold it and had to pay restitution to 0:10:31.270 --> 0:10:31.830 the town. 0:10:31.850 --> 0:10:32.130 Oh, okay. 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:33.000 True, true, true. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:33.240 Yeah. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.380 I mean, again... A little bit of telling and showing 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.880 wouldn't hurt, guys. Like, just a little bit. Just a 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.620 little bit. But still, the good thing is these performances 0:10:42.750 --> 0:10:43.830 do carry it. 0:10:44.020 --> 0:10:44.250 Yes. 0:10:44.780 --> 0:10:48.189 And then we see that Hal is not dead. He's 0:10:48.230 --> 0:10:48.490 not dead. 0:10:48.510 --> 0:10:51.929 He wakes up in the slaughterhouse, in the high-tech alien slaughterhouse, 0:10:52.010 --> 0:10:55.410 and Noah is there. The Manhunter has healed him. And 0:10:55.429 --> 0:10:57.849 he's like, yes, I healed you. You've got new skin now, 0:10:57.929 --> 0:11:02.260 just like my mother. my grandmother did with Jon Stewart. 0:11:02.460 --> 0:11:05.880 Now don't tell my mom because she doesn't know that 0:11:05.990 --> 0:11:08.929 I know what I am. So let's just keep it quiet. 0:11:09.410 --> 0:11:13.550 We go to the present. We are in the weird 0:11:13.610 --> 0:11:16.429 factory in the middle of the lake of the fear planet. 0:11:17.650 --> 0:11:20.809 Sinestro has just been telling Jon Stewart this entire tale 0:11:20.870 --> 0:11:26.080 and he's chained to a chair. Sinestro is like, Noah's 0:11:26.100 --> 0:11:28.480 very powerful now. You know, he was growing up, and 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.510 now he's a full-grown Manhunter man. And John's like, what 0:11:32.530 --> 0:11:34.530 the fuck are you doing here, Sinestro? Like, why were 0:11:34.550 --> 0:11:34.809 you here? 0:11:35.130 --> 0:11:36.610 Yeah, like, what's even going on? 0:11:36.750 --> 0:11:40.210 Yeah, what's even going on? And Sinestro's like, well, Zoe, 0:11:40.750 --> 0:11:44.110 who you were fucking, the grandmother of the Manhunter, built 0:11:44.250 --> 0:11:47.800 this facility and used the portal to visit this planet 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.520 because she basically felt really bad that she did a 0:11:50.700 --> 0:11:53.020 huge genocide and killed an entire planet. Now she feels 0:11:53.059 --> 0:11:57.140 bad about it. Isn't that nice? And I would tell 0:11:57.179 --> 0:12:01.180 you more, Jon Stewart, but you're like not even a trainee. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.320 You're like a nothing. I want to talk to Hal, 0:12:03.460 --> 0:12:05.100 AI Hal. I know that real Hal is dead, but 0:12:05.140 --> 0:12:06.959 I want to talk to AI Hal. I want to 0:12:06.980 --> 0:12:11.440 talk to him right now. Jon Stewart's like, no. And 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.960 then takes Sinestro out to the water, which remember has 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:16.430 all the fear chemicals in it. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:17.400 The nightmare water. 0:12:18.250 --> 0:12:20.570 And waterboards him in the fear water. 0:12:21.010 --> 0:12:23.750 He was a marine. Don't forget, he's a marine. He's like, 0:12:23.770 --> 0:12:26.350 I'm going to waterboard you in this hell water. Like, 0:12:26.530 --> 0:12:27.250 fuck you. 0:12:28.050 --> 0:12:31.750 Sinestra's like, oh, no, no. Okay, okay. I'll tell you everything. 0:12:31.790 --> 0:12:36.200 So he's like, okay, here's what happened. Noah broke me 0:12:36.410 --> 0:12:42.780 out of Oa so that I could forge Noah a lantern. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.319 And Insane plot twist, by the way. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:50.360 And that he would then use the power of the lantern, right, 0:12:50.380 --> 0:12:55.240 to kill a guardian. That's his plan. 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.920 Basically, because he knew Sinestro had beaten a guardian with 0:12:58.980 --> 0:13:00.839 the ring, right? And he felt like that was a 0:13:00.860 --> 0:13:01.960 way to protect himself. 0:13:01.980 --> 0:13:03.700 Just in case the guardians came after him. 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.620 Although, he'll lay that out later. The fact you can 0:13:06.660 --> 0:13:09.380 forge a lantern and a ring just casually like. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.880 That, I feel like has to be a larger. 0:13:10.900 --> 0:13:12.340 Sinestro's the best to ever do it. But that has 0:13:12.380 --> 0:13:14.720 to be a larger plot point in the coming DCEU, 0:13:14.740 --> 0:13:15.960 because that feels huge. 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.970 Yeah, I agree. I hope we will discover more, but 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.430 it just proves, again, Sinestro the greatest to ever do it, 0:13:21.450 --> 0:13:27.010 certainly at this point. And... Sinestro then explains that like, listen, 0:13:27.030 --> 0:13:28.870 this lantern is not like other lanterns. 0:13:29.130 --> 0:13:29.470 Okay. 0:13:29.870 --> 0:13:32.280 And we will talk, Rosie, you will explain to us 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:40.700 the green verse, yellow impurity verse, uh, fearless verse fear 0:13:40.820 --> 0:13:43.599 dichotomy that exists in the comics lore that they kind 0:13:43.620 --> 0:13:47.209 of just barely touch on here. So Sinestro has built 0:13:47.270 --> 0:13:53.000 this lantern, um, from the distilled energies of this planet 0:13:53.540 --> 0:13:56.020 and the genocide that happened here and the great amount 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.479 of fear that was here of the people as they 0:13:58.500 --> 0:14:04.189 were dying, their souls. And John's like, but that's bad, right? 0:14:04.630 --> 0:14:06.990 I thought Green Lantern's fearless and all that stuff. And 0:14:07.010 --> 0:14:09.210 I was like, no, no, no, no. And Sinestro here 0:14:09.290 --> 0:14:12.450 lays out the kind of philosophical issue that he had 0:14:12.490 --> 0:14:14.959 with the Guardians that caused his break with the Guardians, 0:14:15.410 --> 0:14:21.820 which is, his pursuit of yellow and the yellow impurity, 0:14:21.900 --> 0:14:23.800 what it really meant. And he had come to discover 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.040 that no, actually yellow and fear is actually good. If 0:14:27.100 --> 0:14:31.440 you get the balance, right. Because fear makes you careful fear, 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.350 like show me a fearless species and I will show 0:14:34.370 --> 0:14:36.590 you species on the edge of extinction. You don't learn 0:14:36.630 --> 0:14:42.310 if you're not afraid. And he's like, go ahead, charge 0:14:42.350 --> 0:14:45.470 it up. See what happens in the rink. Hal appears AI, Hal. 0:14:46.020 --> 0:14:49.360 And Sinestro's like, oh, good, Hal. There's some great actually 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:54.160 acting here. Because the way that Sinestro reacts when Hal 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.590 appears and he kind of like jerks forward and there's 0:14:57.610 --> 0:15:02.690 this immense relief on his face is really something. And 0:15:03.150 --> 0:15:07.790 Sinestro's like, Hal, listen. You're realer than just a hologram 0:15:07.830 --> 0:15:08.850 because of Jon Stewart. 0:15:09.410 --> 0:15:09.630 Yep. 0:15:10.110 --> 0:15:13.350 If you team up with me, help me right now 0:15:13.530 --> 0:15:19.050 against Jon... Take the ring. Get the lantern. I can 0:15:19.430 --> 0:15:22.090 bring you back to life for real. Like, really bring 0:15:22.110 --> 0:15:26.790 you back to life. It can really happen. Hal mulls 0:15:26.860 --> 0:15:29.560 it over. You know, he never really gets close, but 0:15:29.580 --> 0:15:31.880 he does think about it. And he says, you know what? 0:15:31.900 --> 0:15:34.760 You talk too much. You're annoying. I'm not going to 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:35.100 do that. 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:36.240 Yeah. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.520 So... We learned that if Jon Stewart charges the ring 0:15:41.540 --> 0:15:44.710 because AI Hal is coming from the 7% or 5%. 0:15:44.710 --> 0:15:47.210 By the way, previous it was 5%, now it's 7%. 0:15:47.210 --> 0:15:49.330 This is showing you again, there's a lot of chopped 0:15:49.350 --> 0:15:51.050 and screwed stuff that happened. 0:15:51.070 --> 0:15:55.870 Right, I'm saying. Also, Super Producer Joelle, who this is 0:15:55.930 --> 0:15:58.790 why we love her and our Super Producer team. Episode 0:15:58.790 --> 0:16:01.390 3 was originally supposed to be Episode 5. It has 0:16:01.430 --> 0:16:03.820 now been confirmed. So we are starting to get these 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.560 confirmations that it went out of order. 0:16:07.060 --> 0:16:07.340 Right? 0:16:07.860 --> 0:16:08.900 So that's really interesting. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:14.170 So... So, of course, AI Hal is based inside the ring, 0:16:14.190 --> 0:16:19.770 a download of real Hal's consciousness, but from 10 years ago. 0:16:20.470 --> 0:16:24.010 And if Jon charges it off of this new unofficial lantern, 0:16:24.190 --> 0:16:26.170 it will basically do a full reboot on the ring 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:33.520 and erase AI Hal from the ring. Sinestro tells Jon 0:16:33.580 --> 0:16:38.760 Stewart now, in this wonderful Hannibal Lecter playing all sides, says, Well, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.160 don't trust Hal, who's saying don't charge the ring because 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.160 Hal knows. 0:16:45.060 --> 0:16:46.740 If you charge the ring, he will disappear. 0:16:47.940 --> 0:16:50.580 And so you really, there's this like ominous feeling of 0:16:50.660 --> 0:16:53.540 like what could happen if John charges the ring off 0:16:53.590 --> 0:16:57.470 this lantern. John and Hal leave Sinestro chained to the 0:16:57.490 --> 0:17:02.830 chair on the island. As they row away, Hal suggests that, 0:17:04.090 --> 0:17:06.970 you know, maybe Sinestro's right. Like I understand like we 0:17:07.010 --> 0:17:11.060 don't trust this lantern. Comes from a very ominous type 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.900 of energy. But if you face Noah alone, he will 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.119 kill you. Like, you do not have the power to 0:17:17.180 --> 0:17:21.220 deal with a Manhunter as a regular human man. And 0:17:22.220 --> 0:17:25.560 Hal then asks, what were my last words to you, 0:17:25.660 --> 0:17:29.460 Jon Stewart, in real life? Like, when you had punched 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.940 me in the face and then what happened? And Jon goes, 0:17:32.020 --> 0:17:34.899 you told me not to tell anybody I was in Rushville. Why? 0:17:35.380 --> 0:17:40.460 Because Noah would assume... that Hal told Jon Stewart about 0:17:41.540 --> 0:17:42.129 Noah being a man. 0:17:42.180 --> 0:17:42.860 Exactly. 0:17:43.619 --> 0:17:47.080 Hal now insists like, you know, Junior, I'm trying to 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.160 protect you. I'm trying to protect you, Jon. And Hal's like, yeah, 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.379 now you're trying to protect me when you're dead. And 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.830 it's like, he doesn't really, it doesn't mean that much 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.770 to him. Although I think it does affect him, but 0:17:57.380 --> 0:18:02.450 on the surface, he reacts to it very negatively. Hal says, listen, 0:18:02.570 --> 0:18:04.970 you better charge the ring. They go to the portal 0:18:05.410 --> 0:18:07.940 and Hal's like, what's the plan? And Jon says, well, 0:18:09.140 --> 0:18:12.820 Noah's got a big football game, championship game, and so 0:18:13.330 --> 0:18:15.719 that will buy me some time to figure out what 0:18:15.770 --> 0:18:19.010 to do. I'm not sure what to do, but I'm 0:18:19.130 --> 0:18:21.949 betting that if I don't charge the ring, I'll be 0:18:21.990 --> 0:18:24.410 fine because Noah won't kill me based on my gut. 0:18:24.750 --> 0:18:26.690 You know, the show's been a lot about gut instincts, 0:18:26.730 --> 0:18:28.010 and this is Jon Stewart's gut instincts. 0:18:28.050 --> 0:18:28.290 Yep. 0:18:28.970 --> 0:18:31.310 He drops through the portal, and Noah is there and 0:18:31.350 --> 0:18:35.090 just kicks the shit out of Jon Stewart easily. They 0:18:35.109 --> 0:18:40.040 then get in. John Stewart's truck and drive off ostensibly 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:45.330 towards the football game. And they arrive at a crossroads. 0:18:45.369 --> 0:18:49.090 This is like literal storytelling right here. 0:18:49.470 --> 0:18:53.730 I know. I was like, guys, when you were cutting up, 0:18:53.770 --> 0:18:55.609 you didn't have a time to like make this a 0:18:55.630 --> 0:18:57.869 bit less literal, but it's okay. It's okay. We like it. 0:18:57.890 --> 0:19:01.850 They're at the crossroads. They're at the crossroads of the road. 0:19:02.390 --> 0:19:07.350 And clearly if Noah, uh, tells John to drive straight 0:19:07.470 --> 0:19:09.910 and go towards the game, then he's going to let 0:19:10.210 --> 0:19:10.690 John live. 0:19:10.710 --> 0:19:11.210 Exactly. 0:19:11.350 --> 0:19:13.750 But if he makes him drive somewhere else, he's probably 0:19:13.770 --> 0:19:16.730 going to kill John, right? But then Noah, who hasn't 0:19:16.750 --> 0:19:18.370 made up his mind yet, is like, yeah, keep going 0:19:18.390 --> 0:19:21.780 towards the game. They arrive at the school and they 0:19:21.820 --> 0:19:26.900 make some small talk about high school bands and about football. 0:19:27.540 --> 0:19:29.840 And then Noah tells John, you know what? I didn't 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:34.000 burn Hal's house, by the way, just so you know. Yep. I, 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:37.710 in fact, saved him. life and john stewart is like 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.900 great that is showing that my gut is right because 0:19:40.940 --> 0:19:43.919 that shows that that's the opposite of your programming helping 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.680 the green lantern or former green lantern when he's a 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:48.219 threat to you and really what you should do is. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.980 Kill him um and. 0:19:53.060 --> 0:19:56.220 He then, but then Noah says, complicates it by saying yes, 0:19:56.300 --> 0:20:00.199 but also when Hal found my portal and figured out 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.679 what I was doing, then I did kill him. I 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.160 had to kill him. John Stewart seemingly accepts this, but, 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:11.210 but he, There isn't like, he's like, this is great 0:20:11.310 --> 0:20:13.250 acting again by Pierre, because. 0:20:13.090 --> 0:20:16.690 I got to tell you, man, this had me so 0:20:16.730 --> 0:20:21.879 emotionally engaged. it's also a conversation about himself and his 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.480 family and his own expectations. It works so well. This 0:20:25.540 --> 0:20:27.900 is the reason that I do say, in the end, 0:20:27.980 --> 0:20:31.190 I buy Noah being the Manhunter. Simply, I understand why 0:20:31.230 --> 0:20:34.210 they went with it because the echoes between his life 0:20:34.270 --> 0:20:36.410 and John's life make so much sense. And it does 0:20:36.470 --> 0:20:37.830 emotionally hit when it works. 0:20:38.130 --> 0:20:41.449 That's a great point. Just to kind of like step aside, 0:20:41.970 --> 0:20:44.629 for me, this show is a good show that was 0:20:44.690 --> 0:20:47.879 almost great. And I think it transcended a lot of, 0:20:48.820 --> 0:20:52.710 clear like sequencing issues and perhaps budgetary issues. And the 0:20:52.770 --> 0:20:56.450 reason it's, it's even that good, which is very good 0:20:56.810 --> 0:20:59.619 is because, you know, the three, the talent of the 0:20:59.660 --> 0:21:05.570 three leads and two is, Every important scene, like if 0:21:05.630 --> 0:21:09.130 there are five or six important scenes in a season 0:21:09.170 --> 0:21:12.909 of TV, this being one of them, the conversation in 0:21:13.070 --> 0:21:16.840 the car, it nailed every single one of those scenes. 0:21:16.940 --> 0:21:18.180 The other scenes are rocky. 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:18.820 The same as episode three. 0:21:19.100 --> 0:21:19.419 Yes. 0:21:19.500 --> 0:21:22.320 Right? Where it smashed all the stuff it needed to 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.740 to establish the baseline of what the show was about. 0:21:25.380 --> 0:21:26.520 I totally agree with you. 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:32.109 So, again, great acting by Pierre, who... makes it seem 0:21:32.170 --> 0:21:37.010 like John accepts this explanation that Noah killed Hal, but 0:21:37.070 --> 0:21:39.010 you can tell the light doesn't go on in a 0:21:39.050 --> 0:21:42.159 certain way and that he is still, he doesn't believe it. 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.800 Even though he's saying he believes it. Great echo here 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:49.740 in that moment from where he's with Zoe and he 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.300 says to her, I see you. And she says, I know. 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.890 And she feels like he means in the moment that 0:21:55.950 --> 0:21:57.710 he is seeing who she is and what she wants 0:21:57.770 --> 0:22:00.190 to show him, but he's telling her, I see exactly 0:22:00.230 --> 0:22:02.310 what you actually are doing and what your plan is 0:22:02.350 --> 0:22:04.850 and what you need from me. And I like that here, 0:22:04.930 --> 0:22:08.430 it's that same kind of like, yeah, Noah, sure. But 0:22:08.590 --> 0:22:11.129 his mind is still going. He's still working out what 0:22:11.150 --> 0:22:12.010 the real play is. 0:22:12.770 --> 0:22:15.889 So Noah is like, I bet you're wondering if I'm 0:22:15.910 --> 0:22:19.409 going to kill you. And Jon Stewart's like, yeah, I 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:24.899 really am. And it's clear that Noah himself isn't actually sure. 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:27.600 Like it's kind of hanging on a knife's edge. But 0:22:28.340 --> 0:22:30.730 they end up, Like, again, at the game, and that's 0:22:30.770 --> 0:22:35.150 a good sign, does Jon Stewart believe that Noah can 0:22:35.270 --> 0:22:37.870 overcome his programming? This is what Noah kind of wants 0:22:37.910 --> 0:22:40.760 to know. And Jon, as a way to say yes, 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.459 tells Noah about his own upbringing, the kind of brutal, 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.859 abusive childhood that he was raised under, and how, after 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:53.850 it all, he began to question everything that all the 0:22:53.900 --> 0:22:57.389 ideals he was instilled with, and that just that questioning, 0:22:57.830 --> 0:23:01.450 that crack in the door, showed him that he could 0:23:01.670 --> 0:23:04.369 live his own life. He didn't have to be the 0:23:04.410 --> 0:23:05.929 person that he was raised to be. He could be 0:23:05.990 --> 0:23:09.340 anybody he wanted to be. And so he's basically telling Noah, like, 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:10.800 you can be a good person. It's your choice. You 0:23:10.820 --> 0:23:12.540 don't need to be a manhunter. 0:23:12.580 --> 0:23:12.760 Right. 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.120 So Noah then tells Jon Stewart how. Well, that's good 0:23:16.140 --> 0:23:18.680 to hear because, like, one part of me just wants 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:20.460 to be a normal guy, you know, and get a— Mm-hmm. 0:23:20.950 --> 0:23:23.090 meet a nice girl and get married and have a 0:23:23.250 --> 0:23:25.530 normal job and go to work and come home and 0:23:25.570 --> 0:23:29.930 have kids and yada, yada, yada. However, the other part 0:23:29.970 --> 0:23:33.010 of me thinks, you know, it would be so easy. 0:23:33.530 --> 0:23:38.270 Ride football to the heights of political power, get into 0:23:38.310 --> 0:23:41.390 the Senate, maybe the White House, get access to all 0:23:41.470 --> 0:23:45.500 the best weapons and then run the, basically take over 0:23:45.580 --> 0:23:48.080 the world. And if anybody tried to stop me, I 0:23:48.100 --> 0:23:50.960 would have a ring and a lantern, which Sinestro forged 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:55.129 for me, and I would kill anything that comes between. 0:23:54.869 --> 0:23:57.010 Me and power, including a guardian. 0:23:57.030 --> 0:24:02.369 And he then says to John, by the way, if 0:24:02.410 --> 0:24:03.990 you could see the inside of my head, you would 0:24:04.070 --> 0:24:08.980 never stop screaming. Yeah. And then he gives the ring back. 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.100 I want to say. Yes. I think this is so 0:24:12.220 --> 0:24:14.860 interesting because I was talking to Joelle about this sequence. 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.000 I think it's a great sequence. I also think. That 0:24:18.180 --> 0:24:20.990 with the way we are in 2026, we're again at 0:24:21.050 --> 0:24:24.350 the subtext texting. because this is also kind of just 0:24:24.369 --> 0:24:27.629 the statement about being a white kid in a town 0:24:27.670 --> 0:24:30.389 where everyone's supporting you to go to college, like being 0:24:30.450 --> 0:24:33.230 a white man, being a white person, it is kind 0:24:33.260 --> 0:24:36.460 of easy to just rise up the ranks and become evil, right? 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:39.280 So I kind of also love that once again, the 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.440 text is catching up with the show and it's like, yeah, 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:46.010 that's really nefarious and evil, but also like there's already 0:24:46.050 --> 0:24:48.149 people in power doing that kind of shit. Like it 0:24:48.210 --> 0:24:50.470 feels scarier than ever. I thought this was a great 0:24:50.510 --> 0:24:53.460 moment again, they smashed this scene just where they needed 0:24:53.500 --> 0:24:54.050 to smash it. 0:24:54.580 --> 0:24:55.639 Yeah, I agree. 0:24:55.660 --> 0:24:56.899 I will say that. 0:24:59.660 --> 0:25:05.470 I have issues where John lands with regards to Noah, 0:25:05.510 --> 0:25:24.960 but we will talk about that later. Okay, so Noah 0:25:24.980 --> 0:25:28.340 gives the ring back. He then asks Jon Stewart for 0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:30.859 a favor. He's like, kill me. I'm not sure. 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:32.580 Can you just kill me, please? No, leave my son. 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.800 Can you please kill me? Give me the mercy that 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:38.200 you gave my grandmother. I'm not sure that I'm going 0:25:38.220 --> 0:25:40.560 to be able to hold it together and not become 0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:46.409 like a super villain that takes over the world. And 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.119 so at some point, just snipe me, don't let me 0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:51.260 know it's coming, let me finish the game, and then 0:25:51.300 --> 0:25:52.740 snipe me, bye. And he gets out of the car 0:25:52.780 --> 0:25:53.340 to go play the game. 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.840 Crazy thing to ask somebody, by the way. Truly. Just insane. 0:25:56.859 --> 0:25:59.740 John Stewart then tries to conjure Hal, but Hal does 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:03.430 not appear. John Stewart goes and finds Carrie on the sidelines. 0:26:03.470 --> 0:26:07.649 They're watching Noah, who is very tiny, running behind his 0:26:07.690 --> 0:26:11.970 tiny offensive line. And he's apparently five for five with 0:26:12.330 --> 0:26:15.639 an unknown amount of running yards. They chat about football 0:26:15.660 --> 0:26:17.560 for a little while, and then she drops a hammer. 0:26:17.580 --> 0:26:20.580 She's like, you lied to me. You were supposed to 0:26:20.619 --> 0:26:22.270 wait for me to go to storage unit, and you 0:26:22.310 --> 0:26:22.810 didn't go. 0:26:22.830 --> 0:26:26.090 And is it because. 0:26:25.930 --> 0:26:27.810 You don't trust me? And Jon Stewart's like, yes, it's 0:26:27.850 --> 0:26:29.409 because I didn't know if I could trust you. And 0:26:29.430 --> 0:26:33.800 then he tells her some of his upbringing and the 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:37.840 way he was raised and basically says, like, I understand 0:26:37.859 --> 0:26:42.630 you because you're just like my mom. You're scared. because 0:26:42.730 --> 0:26:45.850 you know what Noah is. And then he confronts Carrie 0:26:46.050 --> 0:26:52.160 about Noah and is like, you're, you're scared, scared. People 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.560 can do anything and, you know, are capable of anything. 0:26:54.580 --> 0:26:57.719 And then she says, no, not scared, actually terrified. And 0:26:57.740 --> 0:27:01.600 then she admits it was in fact her that killed Hal, 0:27:01.980 --> 0:27:05.110 because when Hal confronted her about the truth of who 0:27:05.210 --> 0:27:10.610 Noah was, and again, this scene living, um, next to 0:27:10.630 --> 0:27:14.190 the previous scene where the flashback from 2016, where it 0:27:14.230 --> 0:27:17.100 seems like Hal knew. I think your read is right 0:27:17.140 --> 0:27:19.740 that he was suspecting she was the Manhunter, not that 0:27:19.820 --> 0:27:24.720 Noah was. So Hal confronts her about Noah's true nature 0:27:24.980 --> 0:27:29.050 and terrified says, listen, how many more are there? And 0:27:29.070 --> 0:27:31.629 she's like, I think, and she's like, just him. And 0:27:31.650 --> 0:27:34.260 he's like, listen, we got to run. Maybe we run 0:27:34.300 --> 0:27:36.840 to Mexico. Maybe we run to another planet, but whatever 0:27:36.859 --> 0:27:38.000 we do, we got to get out of here. It's 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.520 not safe for us because he could, he, if he 0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:45.040 realizes that I know, well, he does know who I know, 0:27:45.100 --> 0:27:48.000 but if he considers at some point that I am 0:27:48.530 --> 0:27:50.310 no longer of any use or I'm a threat to 0:27:50.369 --> 0:27:51.970 him or you're a threat to him, he'll just kill us. 0:27:51.990 --> 0:27:54.869 Like he's a man hunter. And he's trying to convince 0:27:54.890 --> 0:27:58.600 her to do this when, She just basically loses it, 0:27:58.859 --> 0:28:02.410 pulls out her nine and shoots him right in the forehead. 0:28:03.109 --> 0:28:06.530 She fucking murders him in cold blood in a fucking 0:28:06.750 --> 0:28:09.850 high school football field. As, by the way, he's saying 0:28:09.910 --> 0:28:12.129 I love you. He really does say I love you 0:28:12.170 --> 0:28:14.020 to her. He says, hey, I love you. And she 0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:17.330 turns around and shoots him in the head. Completely crazy. 0:28:17.350 --> 0:28:19.510 It's absolutely insane. 0:28:19.810 --> 0:28:20.630 I also want to say. 0:28:20.650 --> 0:28:22.300 I can't wait to talk about this more in a 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:23.179 little bit because it's. 0:28:23.220 --> 0:28:25.140 I just... I do want to just say... It's too crazy. 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.280 We were right. We were right. We did call this, 0:28:28.340 --> 0:28:31.600 but it's crazy that this woman had the chops to 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:35.190 call Jon Stewart and be like, hey, how Stewart's dead, 0:28:35.310 --> 0:28:39.640 but she killed him. Serial killer behavior. Jon Stewart then says.... 0:28:40.940 --> 0:28:43.660 Noah gave me the lantern. Well, Noah gave me the 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:48.880 ring and admitted all his plans, including forging this lantern. 0:28:49.380 --> 0:28:52.150 He doesn't tell Carrie the details of the plans because 0:28:52.210 --> 0:28:55.610 he thinks she would be too troubled by it, but 0:28:55.650 --> 0:28:57.830 basically says like he was planning something, but like, it's 0:28:57.850 --> 0:28:59.850 all good now. And he gave me the ring and 0:28:59.870 --> 0:29:01.710 I think he's cool. I think he's going to be 0:29:01.750 --> 0:29:04.140 a good guy, but obviously it's a risk. We're rolling 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.959 the dice on that one. And then he's like, listen, Carrie, 0:29:08.290 --> 0:29:11.230 Your son asked me to kill him. But it's actually 0:29:11.290 --> 0:29:15.570 good because it shows that he's scared of his nature, 0:29:15.590 --> 0:29:17.480 which means he can change. He can be a good guy. 0:29:17.490 --> 0:29:19.880 He asked for God rails. Right. 0:29:20.300 --> 0:29:22.180 And she's like, well, what if he gives into his 0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:26.360 worst instincts? And he says, well, then the world is 0:29:26.380 --> 0:29:28.300 going to need someone who's going to stop him. And 0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.300 obviously that means him. And Noah wins the game and 0:29:31.340 --> 0:29:31.920 everything is. 0:29:32.100 --> 0:29:32.600 Going to be good. 0:29:32.620 --> 0:29:33.740 I'll just say like, hold on. 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.140 I just need to say this. I just need to 0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.890 say something. I got to say this. Eat. 0:29:40.020 --> 0:29:46.810 It is fucking insane to me that Carrie murders Hal 0:29:46.870 --> 0:29:51.790 Jordan himself. a fucking superhero, a hero of Earth in 0:29:51.970 --> 0:29:57.370 cold blood. Yes, she was emotionally whatever. It'd probably be manslaughter, whatever. 0:29:57.890 --> 0:30:00.850 She's a hysterical woman, Jason. She couldn't control herself. She 0:30:00.890 --> 0:30:03.070 had to just shoot him in the head. And Jon 0:30:03.110 --> 0:30:06.060 Stewart is just like, It's all good. You're good. Bitch, 0:30:06.260 --> 0:30:07.860 I got a service. 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:08.360 You're good. 0:30:10.270 --> 0:30:10.830 It's good. 0:30:11.130 --> 0:30:11.830 It's fine. 0:30:12.010 --> 0:30:14.890 Where's Mogo? Where are the Guardians? Where's fucking Chip? 0:30:15.030 --> 0:30:16.070 Like, who? 0:30:16.510 --> 0:30:19.040 What are they doing? Where's the fucking, like, aren't the 0:30:19.060 --> 0:30:19.790 Guardians meant to be? 0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:20.200 It's good. 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:21.360 DC's the watcher? 0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:21.580 Like. 0:30:21.940 --> 0:30:22.480 Don't worry about it. 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.220 You don't care? He's that much of a dickhead that 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:26.860 nobody cares that a sheriff just. 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:28.080 Now the birds aren't watching. 0:30:28.100 --> 0:30:29.900 By the way. Now the birds aren't watching. Where are 0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:32.530 those birds, huh? You don't want to bring that into it? No, 0:30:32.610 --> 0:30:35.850 I will say, if you want to start plot hole picking, 0:30:35.890 --> 0:30:38.700 you can. I'm not plot hole picking. No, no, no, no. 0:30:38.710 --> 0:30:40.810 I'm not saying you should. No, no, no. I'm not 0:30:40.830 --> 0:30:43.729 saying you should or you are. I'm saying that... The 0:30:43.830 --> 0:30:46.640 show is lucky that their performances are so good. 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:47.180 Yes. 0:30:47.220 --> 0:30:51.100 Because you can start to pick things apart. And this 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:54.860 is one of them where I'm like, I don't understand 0:30:55.000 --> 0:31:01.230 unless there is some kind of celestial grander plan why 0:31:01.330 --> 0:31:04.930 we are allowing a human to murder a Green Lantern. 0:31:05.310 --> 0:31:07.910 I guess because the Lanterns wanted to get rid of Hal? 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:12.860 I think it's because... Well, let's take the O a 0:31:12.900 --> 0:31:16.640 piece out of it. I think John's calculation, and I 0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.530 will tell you that I think it's crazy, is that 0:31:20.530 --> 0:31:25.770 without Carrie, Noah will 100% go off the rails and 0:31:25.790 --> 0:31:29.300 become a supervillain. And so I need her to keep 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.310 him in a loving home environment with a loving mom 0:31:33.330 --> 0:31:37.410 in order to keep him from becoming a supervillain. Therefore, 0:31:37.470 --> 0:31:41.440 I'm not going to prosecute her for murdering Earth's Green Lantern, 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.660 which is fucking, that's crazy. 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.350 Jonathan, you're making a mistake. I got to tell you. 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:52.250 This woman is an enabler. She was loyal to a 0:31:52.330 --> 0:31:55.580 man for 10 years in jail. And then she shot 0:31:55.620 --> 0:31:57.620 him in the head because she didn't want to go 0:31:57.700 --> 0:32:00.520 drink pina coladas on a different planet with her son 0:32:00.780 --> 0:32:03.160 because her son was going to get a college scholarship. 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.770 Like this woman, you cannot trust her around. 0:32:06.910 --> 0:32:10.660 It's... More on this later. I think it's a crazy decision. 0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:15.830 And basically, TLDR, house murderer, gets away with it because 0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.090 John is just like, it's all good. Don't worry about it. 0:32:18.110 --> 0:32:20.810 I do just want to say as well, I do 0:32:20.830 --> 0:32:25.550 think it's kind of funny that, like, they built the 0:32:25.570 --> 0:32:28.350 whole show around a murder mystery and then they were like, yeah, 0:32:28.390 --> 0:32:30.690 crazy woman did it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry 0:32:30.710 --> 0:32:32.570 about it. And by the way, if this was. 0:32:33.580 --> 0:32:35.440 not to be that guy, but if this was a 0:32:35.540 --> 0:32:37.900 man shooting a woman in the head and they were 0:32:37.940 --> 0:32:41.610 in a relationship and then at the end of it, 0:32:41.660 --> 0:32:43.440 the hero's like, don't worry about it. You're good. 0:32:43.460 --> 0:32:46.000 Well, I do also want to say that this is 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.840 not a good for her type case either. Like Hal 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:50.320 was not bad to her. 0:32:50.740 --> 0:32:53.280 This is crazy that this happens like this. 0:32:53.740 --> 0:32:56.270 I was the Hal Jordan hater. I do think this 0:32:56.330 --> 0:32:59.570 is a canonically correct representation. I think there are moments 0:32:59.590 --> 0:33:01.390 where he sucks. I think there's moments where he's great. 0:33:01.890 --> 0:33:04.570 But you raise a great point, Jason. She just shot 0:33:04.590 --> 0:33:08.850 her partner in the head to protect her evil genocide son. 0:33:09.230 --> 0:33:12.210 He's not a murderer. This is not an evil gong 0:33:12.230 --> 0:33:16.020 girl type situation where Ben Affleck sucks and was having 0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:19.440 an affair with a child. This is like a man 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:23.040 who said, hey, I'll escape you to a romantic planet 0:33:23.060 --> 0:33:24.980 where we can like have sex and your son can 0:33:25.020 --> 0:33:27.660 just be a normal alien. And she just shot him 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.730 in the head because she likes her job as a cop. 0:33:30.270 --> 0:33:35.750 Her son has broken a super criminal out of Oa jail. 0:33:36.350 --> 0:33:37.930 To make a nuclear weapon. 0:33:38.100 --> 0:33:42.300 To forge a weapon of mass destruction and to protect him, 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:46.000 she kills her partner. And John Kennery's just like, that's fine. 0:33:46.540 --> 0:33:50.650 I like Jon Stewart's like entire plan here is like, oh, 0:33:50.730 --> 0:33:54.010 I'll just American sniper him. I'll American sniper him if 0:33:54.050 --> 0:33:58.170 he becomes too crazy. That to me, surely that immediately 0:33:58.190 --> 0:34:00.920 makes Sheriff Kerry his enemy because she's going to want 0:34:00.940 --> 0:34:02.560 to kill him so he doesn't kill her son. I 0:34:02.580 --> 0:34:05.300 don't know. More on that in a bit. 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.259 All of which is to say, this is, again, a 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.620 very good show. This is a crazy decision, in my opinion, 0:34:11.660 --> 0:34:16.070 from Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart then goes to the Green 0:34:16.150 --> 0:34:17.910 Lantern signal and calls Guy. 0:34:17.930 --> 0:34:21.410 Love this. This is another scene that they nailed it. 0:34:21.410 --> 0:34:21.950 So good. 0:34:21.969 --> 0:34:23.840 Delivered him what I needed to for sure. 0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:28.780 Absolutely nailed it. So Guy shows up and Jon Stewart 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:34.430 basically like fucking pulls rank on him and is like, listen, Guy. Yes, 0:34:34.590 --> 0:34:37.049 I dug up fucking Hal. That's the ring. 0:34:37.070 --> 0:34:37.549 Look at that. 0:34:38.500 --> 0:34:42.740 I'm carrying an unofficial lantern. Guy's like, oh, look at this. 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.859 A dead man's ring and an unofficial lantern. I guess 0:34:45.900 --> 0:34:48.020 I'm going to have to what? And Jon Stewart's like, what? 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:48.960 What are you going to do? I guess you're going 0:34:48.980 --> 0:34:51.860 to have to take it from me. Guy immediately backs down, 0:34:51.980 --> 0:34:57.170 knowing that Guy, who is essentially Oa's errand boy, because 0:34:57.230 --> 0:35:01.370 he is feeling insecure in his position. So he's basically Mr. 0:35:01.450 --> 0:35:03.469 Buy the book, like I'll do anything Oa says. So 0:35:03.510 --> 0:35:04.410 he won't do shit. 0:35:05.050 --> 0:35:08.700 Also, not just that. He's scared of the lantern. He 0:35:08.739 --> 0:35:12.230 doesn't know it. The truth is, the thing I will 0:35:12.270 --> 0:35:15.029 say I think they did really, really well here that 0:35:15.050 --> 0:35:20.420 they set up beautifully through Jon Stewart's abusive childhood is 0:35:20.460 --> 0:35:23.180 that his notion of what fear is or how he 0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:28.069 approaches fear he has basically become so fearless that he 0:35:28.180 --> 0:35:31.160 isn't even afraid of taking this lantern, right? And that's 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.799 going to give him the power, but accepting the things 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.200 he is scared of is part of that. Guy is 0:35:36.260 --> 0:35:38.540 nowhere near that. He's never going to admit he's scared. 0:35:38.580 --> 0:35:41.620 He's never going to really be fearless because he hasn't 0:35:41.660 --> 0:35:43.570 been through the things that Jon has been through. And 0:35:44.310 --> 0:35:47.490 I really love that in that moment, there is nothing 0:35:47.510 --> 0:35:50.290 Guy can do, apart from cry to the Guardians. 0:35:50.830 --> 0:35:51.230 So.... 0:35:52.850 --> 0:35:58.830 Jon Stewart basically tells Guy, listen, I solved Hal's murder. 0:36:00.110 --> 0:36:02.270 Guy's like, oh, really? What happened? He's like, don't worry 0:36:02.310 --> 0:36:03.930 about it. I took care of it. I found his murderer. 0:36:03.969 --> 0:36:06.330 I let her go. He doesn't tell him anything, but 0:36:06.350 --> 0:36:09.190 he's basically like, don't worry about it, which is another 0:36:09.230 --> 0:36:15.239 crazy thing to say to Guy. And then he says, listen, congratulations, 0:36:15.260 --> 0:36:19.330 you're the Green Lantern. You're Owe's man now. in sector two, eight, three, one, 0:36:19.690 --> 0:36:21.689 you keep the sector, but I'm going to take earth 0:36:21.770 --> 0:36:24.530 off you. I will handle earth. You will handle the sector. 0:36:24.630 --> 0:36:27.250 Everything else. You do the sky. You do space. 0:36:27.270 --> 0:36:28.150 I'm doing earth. 0:36:28.410 --> 0:36:30.340 Guy's like, but he's like, shut up. 0:36:31.140 --> 0:36:34.000 And then guy flies away. I will say that one 0:36:34.020 --> 0:36:37.839 of the, one of the hints to me that they, 0:36:37.940 --> 0:36:40.500 by this point had no budget is the fact that 0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:45.299 guy descends from flight and like you're watching Rock of 0:36:45.380 --> 0:36:48.700 Ages off Broadway, like a guy, like a guy on 0:36:48.739 --> 0:36:49.320 a wire. 0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:54.620 He goes like this, comes down. And when he flies away, 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.279 it's the same. He gets like straight up and then 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.980 they just shoot him into the sky. I mean, there 0:37:01.020 --> 0:37:03.520 will be many conversations. We don't need to have another 0:37:03.620 --> 0:37:06.820 one about the amount of green lanterning in this. I 0:37:06.860 --> 0:37:09.390 do wish we got to see Jon Stewart suit up, 0:37:09.410 --> 0:37:12.319 but at the same time, I hope that if we 0:37:12.340 --> 0:37:14.520 get to see him suit up in Superman, they got 0:37:14.540 --> 0:37:16.000 the budget for it and we get to see him 0:37:16.020 --> 0:37:18.320 looking good as hell. You know what I mean? Also, 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:20.580 I will talk about this when we talk more about 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.760 the green-yellow stuff, but this isn't totally out of comic 0:37:23.780 --> 0:37:27.280 book canon. There is stuff they can lean into with 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.830 Jon in this, including how his suit looks and stuff. 0:37:29.890 --> 0:37:30.690 So I'm really excited. 0:37:30.730 --> 0:37:36.390 There's a lot of rivalry there. Between Earth's various lanterns. 0:37:36.450 --> 0:37:38.790 And this is exactly like how it would play out. Oh, 0:37:38.810 --> 0:37:41.370 before Guy flies away, he basically says, listen, when Oa 0:37:41.410 --> 0:37:45.030 finds out that you're here with an unofficial lantern doing 0:37:45.110 --> 0:37:47.279 stuff like on your own, they're going to send an 0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.660 army after you. And Jon Stewart then says, tell them 0:37:49.700 --> 0:37:51.380 to look in their hearts, which is like, is that 0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.020 a code? It's like, yes, that's code. And then Guy 0:37:54.060 --> 0:37:57.080 flies away after Jon tells him to ditch the gold tooth. 0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:59.739 Oh, he tells them to look in their hearts, like 0:37:59.780 --> 0:38:02.380 thinking about the Manhunter and the Crystal Hearts and letting 0:38:02.420 --> 0:38:04.549 them know, like, I know you created the Manhunters. 0:38:04.570 --> 0:38:04.990 Exactly. 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.250 Okay, I like that. I kind of didn't clock that 0:38:07.290 --> 0:38:09.029 that was what he meant when he first said it. Yeah, 0:38:09.050 --> 0:38:10.910 you're right. 0:38:11.210 --> 0:38:14.509 AI Hal then appears and tells John, like, man, you're 0:38:14.530 --> 0:38:18.290 taking a huge risk because, like, what if Noah breaks bad, then... 0:38:19.450 --> 0:38:21.810 Basically what happened in Rushville, this is not what he says, 0:38:21.870 --> 0:38:24.770 but this is my read. What happened in Rushville will 0:38:24.810 --> 0:38:28.110 happen all over the world, basically. Like it's going to 0:38:28.140 --> 0:38:30.299 be really bad. And Jon Stewart is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.140 but my gut, trust me. And he asks Hal what 0:38:33.180 --> 0:38:35.319 Hal would do. And Hal's like, well, you know, my 0:38:35.340 --> 0:38:37.439 gut says that you're going to be better at me, 0:38:37.820 --> 0:38:40.060 better than me at this job than I ever could 0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:41.719 have hoped to be. And you're ready to do it 0:38:41.780 --> 0:38:45.540 and you should charge the ring. And he's like, and 0:38:45.580 --> 0:38:48.219 then he says, don't be afraid to be afraid, which 0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.310 is a great, that's. 0:38:49.950 --> 0:38:52.210 The thesis of the show. Yes. 0:38:52.250 --> 0:38:56.150 Very great tagline for the whole show. Jon Stewart is like, yeah, 0:38:56.190 --> 0:38:57.790 but what about the, what do I do about the oath? 0:38:58.530 --> 0:39:00.969 And Hal's like, well, we're off the map. You know, 0:39:01.010 --> 0:39:02.410 you can make up your own oath. You can do 0:39:02.450 --> 0:39:04.390 whatever you want. So then Jon's about to charge the ring, 0:39:04.410 --> 0:39:07.090 but then Hal gets scared because this is really it 0:39:07.390 --> 0:39:11.109 now for Hal. And he says, oh, when you were 0:39:11.140 --> 0:39:14.040 talking to Carrie, I kind of fritzed out a little bit. 0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:17.420 What were my final words before she brutally murdered me 0:39:17.460 --> 0:39:20.950 in cold blood in this football field stands, and then 0:39:21.010 --> 0:39:24.080 covered up my murder and lied to everybody that she 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:24.440 murdered me. 0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:26.540 And now I'm okay with it. Everyone's okay with it. 0:39:26.620 --> 0:39:29.009 And now I'm okay with it. And he says it was, 0:39:29.610 --> 0:39:34.680 I love you. And he then says to Jon Stewart, 0:39:34.940 --> 0:39:36.359 I love you too, Junior, which is very. 0:39:36.380 --> 0:39:38.600 He tricked him. He tricked him because he knew his 0:39:38.660 --> 0:39:41.200 last words and he wanted to get to say that. 0:39:41.260 --> 0:39:43.650 And I actually have to say, You were right, Jason. 0:39:43.690 --> 0:39:46.029 This paid off. I like this moment. They made me 0:39:46.050 --> 0:39:48.590 care about the two of them together. They did another 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.940 scene that they worked on and they made work. 0:39:52.260 --> 0:39:54.720 We then get a montage where Jon Stewart is like 0:39:54.739 --> 0:39:55.910 kind of setting everything right. I don't want to talk 0:39:55.930 --> 0:39:58.790 about it. He puts the stuff back in the vault. 0:39:58.890 --> 0:40:01.330 He gives Maggie the bag of cash, which is to 0:40:01.370 --> 0:40:05.430 me ridiculous. This whole subplot that he would allow himself 0:40:05.530 --> 0:40:08.170 to be extorted by her. Why is she even in 0:40:08.210 --> 0:40:11.890 the show? Cut Maggie out and a wig. Very confusing 0:40:12.030 --> 0:40:14.950 to me. Why didn't he just, he has so much money. 0:40:15.190 --> 0:40:18.370 Just build them one of those fucking bomb shelters under 0:40:18.410 --> 0:40:21.170 the town and buy, build a strip mall. You don't 0:40:21.210 --> 0:40:23.740 need to give this girl $ 300, 000. What does she have 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:24.529 to do with anything? 0:40:25.110 --> 0:40:27.900 Calm down. But I guess we're just rewarding criminals in 0:40:27.940 --> 0:40:29.219 this town, so I kind of dig it. 0:40:29.219 --> 0:40:32.060 Well, I guess, like, this is a manifestation of John's 0:40:32.140 --> 0:40:36.140 guilt about what happened, but, like, again, the entire town suffered, 0:40:36.460 --> 0:40:38.879 but she's the one that extorted you, so she gets 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.100 the benefit? This is stupid. I'm sorry. 0:40:41.140 --> 0:40:43.920 Rewarding bad behavior. Yeah, we're rewarding bad behavior. 0:40:43.940 --> 0:40:44.900 This is crazy. 0:40:45.300 --> 0:40:47.790 He then goes home and we get this. He rewards Kelly, too, so, 0:40:48.270 --> 0:40:51.680 I mean, look, I'm not gonna... I want to say something. 0:40:52.030 --> 0:40:53.920 I'm not saying I want this to happen. I don't 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.660 think it's where we're going. I will talk about how 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:57.980 the comic proves it's probably not where we're going. But 0:40:58.020 --> 0:40:59.540 there is a read of this where you could say 0:40:59.580 --> 0:41:01.950 that once he picks up that yellow lantern and goes rogue, 0:41:01.969 --> 0:41:04.830 he starts to make some dodgy choices. We will talk 0:41:04.870 --> 0:41:06.930 about that in a bit when you lay out the rule. 0:41:06.950 --> 0:41:07.250 Yeah, I will. 0:41:07.290 --> 0:41:09.810 Because I think that's... I think one thing that... I 0:41:09.810 --> 0:41:12.049 think it's a red herring, but I think it's like 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.060 meant to... I agree with you. 0:41:14.660 --> 0:41:17.370 Because I think it's... Listen, I think if you go 0:41:17.390 --> 0:41:19.469 by lore, it's ambiguous at the very least because it's 0:41:19.489 --> 0:41:22.250 a green lantern ring forged for green energy, but then 0:41:22.290 --> 0:41:27.340 it's a yellow inflected lantern. So it's not a yellow 0:41:27.420 --> 0:41:30.020 ring and a yellow lantern. Whatever, we'll get into it later. 0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.739 We'll talk about it because there's some interesting places to 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:33.160 go with it. 0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:40.649 So, and this to me proves that I think they 0:41:40.710 --> 0:41:43.060 were I think they didn't know if they were going 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.600 to get a season two because the way that Jon 0:41:45.660 --> 0:41:51.030 Stewart arrives home in this montage, slow-mo montage, there's his dad. 0:41:51.370 --> 0:41:53.109 He's fucking, you know, dapping up. 0:41:53.130 --> 0:41:55.530 His dad's out of the place? Out of the place. 0:41:55.670 --> 0:41:59.430 The family's back together. It's slow-mo again. He's like happy music. 0:41:59.820 --> 0:42:02.320 He's dapping up his brothers. There's his mom they embrace. 0:42:03.420 --> 0:42:09.540 It felt very final without any of the, complexity that 0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:13.200 made their relationship interesting. It just seemed like it's over. 0:42:13.219 --> 0:42:15.040 I know he was giving Aaron a slap on the 0:42:15.060 --> 0:42:17.340 head at least one time after he spoke to him 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:18.420 like that on the phone. 0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:27.029 Come on. And then we go back to John next 0:42:27.050 --> 0:42:29.609 to the Green Lantern signal. Hal has gone away. He's 0:42:29.650 --> 0:42:31.850 charging the ring and he's got the new oath. In 0:42:31.890 --> 0:42:34.790 brightest day, in darkest night, I'll embrace my fear and 0:42:34.850 --> 0:42:37.089 do what's right. I choose this ring. I choose this fight. 0:42:37.580 --> 0:42:40.799 in service to this lantern's light. And then he, like 0:42:40.860 --> 0:42:45.020 a off-Broadway show of School of Rock, goes. 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:49.010 Straight up into the air. It's the end of Cats. 0:42:49.390 --> 0:42:57.049 The Jellicle Ball. Going to the Jellicle Ball. 0:42:57.550 --> 0:42:59.589 And flies straight up into the air. 0:42:59.610 --> 0:43:02.110 In front of a giant green lantern. 0:43:02.469 --> 0:43:06.259 That is the finale. I think, again, a very good... 0:43:07.050 --> 0:43:09.830 season of television a very good show it could have 0:43:09.850 --> 0:43:11.430 been great it was so close to being great but 0:43:11.469 --> 0:43:13.820 i think they had to do some stuff in post 0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.560 to even get it to be this level and what 0:43:16.580 --> 0:43:19.140 a job they did yeah of course we have some 0:43:19.180 --> 0:43:21.380 gripes that i will we'll talk about that in a 0:43:21.420 --> 0:43:39.219 bit let's take a break we'll be right back Okay, 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.630 and we're back. Rosie, I think one of the things, 0:43:42.710 --> 0:43:44.850 as we talked about in the recap, this show could 0:43:44.870 --> 0:43:48.190 have used is more of an understanding for the audience, 0:43:48.250 --> 0:43:51.560 a little bit of a lore dump about green versus yellow. Agreed. 0:43:51.950 --> 0:43:55.570 What is the relationship between the two colors and energies 0:43:55.630 --> 0:43:59.180 with regards to Green Lantern lore? And why is what 0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:03.960 Sinestro is doing so kind of anathema to the Guardians 0:44:04.020 --> 0:44:05.359 and Oa? Tell us about Green vs. 0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:08.650 Yellow. Yeah, so I think that, you know, people have 0:44:08.730 --> 0:44:11.170 noticed who are big fans of this stuff. Like we 0:44:11.210 --> 0:44:14.570 mentioned it in the show, over the time the lanterns 0:44:14.650 --> 0:44:17.509 is turning, logos turning from green to yellow, right? But 0:44:17.550 --> 0:44:20.050 they never really sat down and gave us a Sinestro 0:44:20.070 --> 0:44:22.989 backstory or a yellow lantern core backstory. We don't even 0:44:23.050 --> 0:44:25.669 know if there is a full yellow lantern core yet, 0:44:25.739 --> 0:44:29.220 or if a yellow lantern has even truly been forged, 0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.839 if this is our first look at it. But essentially 0:44:32.300 --> 0:44:35.960 in the green lantern universe, the colors have different energy patterns, right? 0:44:36.300 --> 0:44:39.100 And yellow is the energy of fear. And the idea 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.160 is that if you are a Green Lantern, the joke 0:44:41.180 --> 0:44:43.340 we always has is like, he's scared of anything yellow. 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:47.529 So he's like the opposite of Superman. Anything yellow can 0:44:47.570 --> 0:44:48.089 fuck with him. 0:44:48.690 --> 0:44:48.830 And. 0:44:49.550 --> 0:44:52.750 In the comics, there is this parallax entity that is 0:44:52.810 --> 0:44:58.510 essentially the embodiment of fear. And depending on where you 0:44:58.550 --> 0:45:02.480 believe or join the canon, parallax is either trapped inside 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.340 the central power battery at OR or can be trapped 0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.480 in it, which is why I think there's very interesting 0:45:08.540 --> 0:45:11.500 things here when we look at where the comics come from. 0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:14.640 Because also the green is like willpower, right? That's that 0:45:14.700 --> 0:45:17.440 kind of big power we have. Star Sapphire is the pink. 0:45:17.460 --> 0:45:20.330 We have love. So what I will say, we did 0:45:20.370 --> 0:45:22.330 not get a lot of this lore, but Sinestro... Yeah, 0:45:22.350 --> 0:45:25.270 because we don't know how... We don't know how Sinestro 0:45:25.290 --> 0:45:26.069 broke out. 0:45:26.090 --> 0:45:28.730 We don't know if Sinestro knows about parallax and we 0:45:28.750 --> 0:45:31.640 don't know how far he got into his research about yellow. 0:45:32.090 --> 0:45:37.850 Exactly. All we know is that seemingly by... The Manhunter's 0:45:37.910 --> 0:45:41.510 doing the genocide. Sinestro has been trapped on this fear planet, 0:45:41.570 --> 0:45:44.750 which is allowing him, I think, to explore and understand 0:45:44.790 --> 0:45:47.790 the notion of fear. What I will say is that 0:45:47.830 --> 0:45:50.489 when Noah came and asked him to forge it on 0:45:50.550 --> 0:45:54.580 that planet, I think that the planet's influence or Parallax's 0:45:54.620 --> 0:45:59.340 influence or fear's influence basically allowed the lantern to imbue 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.020 something from there, right? And the idea is because Noah's 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:05.239 going to use it, he's going to use fear for negativity. But... 0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.280 what we have here is Sinestro ends up with John 0:46:08.340 --> 0:46:11.240 getting it. And that is actually something that has happened 0:46:11.260 --> 0:46:13.470 before in the comics. If you ever read the Green 0:46:13.550 --> 0:46:17.690 Lantern Earth One series, by the second volume, they're introducing 0:46:17.870 --> 0:46:21.529 multiple different Green Lanterns, right? And this is such a 0:46:21.570 --> 0:46:24.430 cool comic. It's the Gabriel Hardman stuff that they did 0:46:24.469 --> 0:46:29.029 in 2018. I think that It was, Karina Bekcho was 0:46:29.070 --> 0:46:31.890 the writer. I love Hardman's art so much. And in 0:46:31.950 --> 0:46:35.730 that story, in the second volume, in issue two, there 0:46:35.810 --> 0:46:39.190 is actually a yellow lantern in Earth One who breaks 0:46:39.270 --> 0:46:42.089 Jon Stewart and two other doctors out of jail and 0:46:42.190 --> 0:46:45.430 gives them the yellow lantern and the ring. And then 0:46:45.530 --> 0:46:47.700 Jon is the only one who is able to wield 0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:50.700 it safely. So in the comics, in the Earth One, 0:46:50.739 --> 0:46:54.379 so separate universe, right? Jon has a yellow lantern ring 0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.120 and what they teased with it was the notion that 0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.520 it would essentially be the ring for people who weren't 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:03.610 protected by Green Lanterns. It was like the underdog's ring, right? 0:47:04.010 --> 0:47:06.509 So I think that they are pulling a little bit 0:47:06.570 --> 0:47:10.950 from that here, where whoever holds this kind of fear-imbued lantern, 0:47:10.969 --> 0:47:14.150 it is about their will. So if Noah held it, 0:47:14.230 --> 0:47:16.969 it could become evil. If Lex Luthor held it, you 0:47:16.989 --> 0:47:19.529 could use the power of fear terribly. But what this 0:47:19.590 --> 0:47:21.549 show has been about is about how actually if you 0:47:21.610 --> 0:47:24.050 embrace your fear, it can give you power. So I 0:47:24.090 --> 0:47:27.570 think while Jon wields it, I think his will will 0:47:27.710 --> 0:47:31.830 mean that he is able to wield power in fear 0:47:31.890 --> 0:47:34.250 in a positive way. That's what I think that we're 0:47:34.270 --> 0:47:37.110 gonna get. But I think there's a potential for season 0:47:37.170 --> 0:47:41.030 two to explore the idea of a parallax. And also, Jason, 0:47:41.090 --> 0:47:44.150 you mentioned something I think is really key. There is 0:47:44.190 --> 0:47:49.910 a history of Green Lanterns on Earth battling for these powers. 0:47:50.030 --> 0:47:53.000 And if Guy admits that he is not the lantern 0:47:53.219 --> 0:47:55.760 for Earth and he's happy to just be the sector lantern, 0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.500 Oa is likely going to try and find a new 0:47:59.050 --> 0:48:01.850 approved lantern for Earth, which is probably going to be 0:48:01.890 --> 0:48:04.589 Kyle Rayner. So I think that is what we will 0:48:04.660 --> 0:48:07.120 see in season two is John is going to be rogue. 0:48:07.460 --> 0:48:11.799 John's going to be able to utilize yellow as something positive. 0:48:11.860 --> 0:48:14.520 But at the same time, Sinestro will probably be building 0:48:14.580 --> 0:48:18.819 the corpse or his version on the planet. Because by 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.509 forging it, I'm sure that has already created, you know, 0:48:21.550 --> 0:48:23.250 he knows how to do it on the planet. There's 0:48:23.350 --> 0:48:25.529 only the planet's only going to become more powerful. Think 0:48:25.570 --> 0:48:29.390 about him. essentially a Sauron forging the rings, right? So 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:32.120 I think that we will see Jon as this rogue 0:48:32.260 --> 0:48:36.410 in between because the creators did say this morning, He 0:48:36.510 --> 0:48:39.279 is utterly unique. He's not a yellow lantern. He's not 0:48:39.300 --> 0:48:41.569 a green lantern. He is something new. So I think 0:48:41.610 --> 0:48:44.600 we'll see him in that rogue space working with Clark. 0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.000 And then I think we will see Kyle probably come 0:48:48.100 --> 0:48:51.379 in as the approved lantern of Earth. And then we'll 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.259 get a bigger idea. Because Jason, I will say, moving 0:48:54.300 --> 0:48:55.980 away from the comics back to the show, one of 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:57.880 the big things you talked about that I think we 0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.680 will get in season two is some kind of Oa conspiracy. 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:02.859 Can you talk a little bit about how that didn't 0:49:02.900 --> 0:49:07.040 pay off here? probably budgetary concerns, but also like there 0:49:07.100 --> 0:49:08.899 must be a reason we haven't seen them, right? 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:13.229 There must be. And it seems like now that with 0:49:14.690 --> 0:49:18.730 ending with John's coded message through guide to oa it 0:49:18.830 --> 0:49:24.400 seems like the conspiracy is something around just basically covering 0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:27.820 up which would which tracks with the comics right covering 0:49:27.900 --> 0:49:31.680 up the fact that they created manhunters exactly and were 0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:34.100 not able to control them and that they went off 0:49:34.260 --> 0:49:37.359 and did massive war crimes across the. 0:49:37.300 --> 0:49:41.230 Galaxy Okay, this is kind of crazy. Unexpected, not what 0:49:41.270 --> 0:49:43.130 I was thinking at all. Don't know if it's going 0:49:43.150 --> 0:49:44.989 to tie in this much, so sorry if this is 0:49:45.030 --> 0:49:48.220 a Rosie and Jason tinfoil hat theory. But we know 0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:52.140 Brainiac's going to be in Man of Tomorrow, right? Obviously 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:57.380 a big villain. But think about this. If the Guardians 0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:00.520 have Manhunters they couldn't control on Earth, what if there 0:50:00.580 --> 0:50:05.410 are other Manhunters across the universe that are on different planets... 0:50:05.510 --> 0:50:08.170 that are ready to take over. That could actually be 0:50:08.230 --> 0:50:10.850 a threat that would bring together Lex and Superman, right? 0:50:11.190 --> 0:50:14.509 Maybe Brainiac finds out. Maybe there is some connection there. 0:50:14.530 --> 0:50:18.049 Because I feel like Oa being alerted hints that this 0:50:18.110 --> 0:50:21.050 is going to expand outside of Earth, whatever Jon wants. 0:50:21.350 --> 0:50:22.490 I also think that the. 0:50:24.570 --> 0:50:28.759 To your point about Parallax, so much of this is 0:50:29.510 --> 0:50:33.380 the show, the series, this season has been based on 0:50:34.820 --> 0:50:38.860 slow morph from green to yellow. I do think another 0:50:38.940 --> 0:50:43.719 possibility is that, you know, Sinestra has always been researching, 0:50:44.100 --> 0:50:47.700 wanting to understand why there was this yellow impurity in 0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.180 the green rings, why green, why the rings don't work 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:53.310 against things that are the color yellow or yellow energy, 0:50:53.510 --> 0:50:56.570 yellow energy in the spectrum is the weakness of the rings. 0:50:57.090 --> 0:51:00.670 And it can literally be like a daisy, a yellow daisy. 0:51:00.730 --> 0:51:03.230 Like in the comics, it's been all kind of silly things. 0:51:03.450 --> 0:51:05.529 And then it's become a joke almost, which is why 0:51:05.570 --> 0:51:08.910 I think in the 90s and zeros, they tried to 0:51:08.950 --> 0:51:12.450 make it more terrifying, more obviously about energy and weakness 0:51:12.489 --> 0:51:13.070 in the rings. 0:51:13.330 --> 0:51:17.530 And I think Sinestro was researching this. This is essentially 0:51:17.590 --> 0:51:22.069 what got him in trouble with the Guardians. Because he thought, oh, 0:51:23.340 --> 0:51:27.240 they're hiding... something about the yellow impurity and actually like 0:51:27.300 --> 0:51:29.090 the rings can be a lot stronger if we figure 0:51:29.150 --> 0:51:31.930 out how to, how to harness this. Well, in while 0:51:31.969 --> 0:51:35.569 in reality, it's because the guardians know that parallax is 0:51:35.650 --> 0:51:38.150 trapped inside the. 0:51:37.410 --> 0:51:40.089 Energy battery, the central battery. 0:51:40.550 --> 0:51:45.060 And that to harness yellow is to basically allow him 0:51:45.140 --> 0:51:48.520 to escape. And so I think clever Jason, I think 0:51:48.580 --> 0:51:51.640 that's the other conspiracy that they have is they understand 0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:55.900 like they are, containing parallax in the central battery and 0:51:55.940 --> 0:51:58.860 that they will do anything to not let anybody understand 0:51:58.920 --> 0:51:59.859 that this is the case. 0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:03.799 Also, doesn't that make sense? Because isn't every kind of story, 0:52:04.219 --> 0:52:08.400 whether it's Superman and the fall of Krypton, or whether 0:52:08.420 --> 0:52:11.920 it's any kind of supremacy, like mutant supremacy regime, it's 0:52:12.100 --> 0:52:15.730 all about the arrogance and assumption that you can do 0:52:15.790 --> 0:52:18.750 it better, that you know some way that's gonna stop. 0:52:19.030 --> 0:52:22.210 And actually, oftentimes, you just do that by complete suppression. 0:52:22.700 --> 0:52:27.060 Whereas it's clear that fear is obviously a feeling just 0:52:27.100 --> 0:52:30.200 like anything else that could be utilized. And John is 0:52:30.219 --> 0:52:32.210 going to prove that. And it's going to make other 0:52:32.250 --> 0:52:35.029 people ask, why can't we utilize fear? And I think 0:52:35.070 --> 0:52:37.190 the parallax conspiracy will come out. 0:52:37.270 --> 0:52:37.550 Wow. 0:52:37.850 --> 0:52:40.049 Yes, Jason, I think you clocked it. I think that's 0:52:40.150 --> 0:52:41.850 so real. It would be cool if. 0:52:41.810 --> 0:52:42.529 That is the case. 0:52:42.770 --> 0:52:43.490 It would be really cool. 0:52:43.510 --> 0:52:45.100 You know, another thing I wanted to ask you about 0:52:45.180 --> 0:52:48.180 is that I think this show, part of what made 0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:54.160 it so effective is it, as a more grounded in 0:52:54.219 --> 0:52:59.009 terms of the characterizations of the people show made it, 0:52:59.850 --> 0:53:04.930 it gave the fact that these are characters with godlike powers, 0:53:05.950 --> 0:53:10.660 a different, a different and very interesting feeling with regards 0:53:10.700 --> 0:53:15.770 to superhero storytelling. Like, Much has been said about the 0:53:15.810 --> 0:53:19.250 Marvel Feet of Clay versus the DC, like, you know, 0:53:19.330 --> 0:53:20.900 monsters and gods and stuff. 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:21.739 Oh, this is. 0:53:22.300 --> 0:53:28.080 And I do think, like, that question in Marvel, like, 0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:30.899 if we take Civil War, for instance, is. 0:53:33.030 --> 0:53:36.270 It's interesting in that as rich as Tony Stark is, 0:53:36.890 --> 0:53:40.270 as powerful as the Hulk is, they're still kind of just... 0:53:40.980 --> 0:53:45.000 guys compared to Thanos, who everybody in DC is basically 0:53:45.060 --> 0:53:48.620 a Thanos level guy. All of which is to say, 0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:53.009 I think that there's, it's, it's crazy to think like 0:53:53.150 --> 0:53:55.810 what the normal guy on the street, guy gal on 0:53:55.830 --> 0:54:00.290 the street would think if this Jon Stewart whole thing 0:54:00.390 --> 0:54:03.250 was revealed to them. So here's what, like, imagine you 0:54:03.270 --> 0:54:10.090 learn this. Oh, um, There was a intergalactic war criminal 0:54:10.489 --> 0:54:14.010 living on Earth who had an affair with a future 0:54:14.050 --> 0:54:14.890 Green Lantern. 0:54:15.550 --> 0:54:17.660 Who's now the Green Lantern of your Earth, specifically. 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:21.180 Who's now the Green Lantern of your Earth. And that 0:54:21.260 --> 0:54:28.330 Green Lantern allowed the intergalactic war war criminal's offspring who 0:54:28.410 --> 0:54:32.130 is also perhaps a war criminal in the making and 0:54:32.170 --> 0:54:34.970 has openly said, you know, I don't know if I'll 0:54:34.989 --> 0:54:36.200 destroy the world. Maybe I will. 0:54:36.260 --> 0:54:36.680 Maybe. 0:54:36.980 --> 0:54:37.500 I don't know. 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:38.600 I could do it. 0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.359 Every day I struggle with it. And by the way, 0:54:41.420 --> 0:54:45.200 I was building, like I was, I had a weapon 0:54:45.219 --> 0:54:46.219 of mass destruction built. 0:54:46.420 --> 0:54:48.560 But I don't know if I'll use it. Buy another 0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:49.140 war criminal. 0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:56.330 I'll see if I'll use it. And that green lantern 0:54:56.350 --> 0:55:01.810 basically like let that kid live because his gun instinct 0:55:01.830 --> 0:55:05.149 told him it'd be fun that's actually like a crazy 0:55:05.469 --> 0:55:09.380 you're rolling the dice with everybody's lives on earth it's 0:55:09.469 --> 0:55:11.069 actually insane. 0:55:10.540 --> 0:55:15.400 I will say i think something that james gunniverse needs 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:18.439 to explore in superman man of tomorrow which i think 0:55:18.500 --> 0:55:20.279 it could and i'm excited to see if they do 0:55:21.219 --> 0:55:24.580 They are very much setting up a world where superheroes 0:55:24.700 --> 0:55:29.180 are so common that humans are essentially a secondary thought 0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:33.810 in this world. They're collateral damage. They're ants. Now, that 0:55:33.890 --> 0:55:36.290 is true to the experience of being a human in 0:55:36.330 --> 0:55:39.230 the DC universe. I feel myself becoming pro-Lex Luthor all 0:55:39.370 --> 0:55:41.569 of a sudden. I was going to say, right? It 0:55:41.670 --> 0:55:44.550 does seem like they're kind of setting up this notion, 0:55:44.610 --> 0:55:47.969 their very own mutant threat of... wow, there are all 0:55:48.010 --> 0:55:52.430 these stealth agent aliens living across the planet who could 0:55:52.469 --> 0:55:55.549 at any time attack, you know? That seems like they're 0:55:55.570 --> 0:55:58.759 setting up something quite dangerous and quite contrary to what 0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:01.600 we saw with Superman. So I'll be interested to see 0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:05.140 how it plays out. I do think it is honestly 0:56:05.219 --> 0:56:08.460 probably more of a thematic fluke that it feels like 0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:11.739 that to us because I think this show was chopped 0:56:11.890 --> 0:56:16.230 and screwed and redone and remade and has come out... Honestly, 0:56:16.350 --> 0:56:19.100 on top, becoming, like, the biggest show of the season 0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:22.509 post-Widow's Bay. This is, like, the talkie-about show. This is 0:56:22.530 --> 0:56:25.490 the show everyone was waiting for the finale. So I think... 0:56:25.890 --> 0:56:28.990 for whatever production troubles it clearly had, it has really 0:56:29.050 --> 0:56:31.830 come out as like a winner. Is it going to 0:56:31.890 --> 0:56:35.110 play into the future of the DCU as much as 0:56:35.130 --> 0:56:37.009 we want it to? I don't know, because James Gunn 0:56:37.070 --> 0:56:40.150 did give that weird statement where he was like, Superman's 0:56:40.190 --> 0:56:43.089 not going to have that many characters that are important 0:56:43.120 --> 0:56:46.419 from outside of the movie, which worries me, because this 0:56:46.500 --> 0:56:49.860 is the most interesting thing you have right now. I 0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:53.120 need to tell you, they lit Aaron Pierre in this episode. 0:56:53.180 --> 0:56:55.880 They understood that he was the leading man. There is 0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:58.469 something about, and I want to say, I do want 0:56:58.489 --> 0:57:02.430 to say, I'm pushing, I'm putting this out there early. 0:57:02.910 --> 0:57:05.190 I'm pushing back on the idea that we only like 0:57:05.290 --> 0:57:09.360 Aaron Pierre because he's conventionally good looking, right? I actually think, 0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:12.330 I think he has... I think he has a Keanu 0:57:12.390 --> 0:57:15.950 Reeves element to him that people underrate, which is he 0:57:16.090 --> 0:57:21.030 is so good at acting within action and narratively acting 0:57:21.110 --> 0:57:24.430 within an action showcase that some people might say he's wooden. 0:57:24.950 --> 0:57:27.340 Rebel Ridge. They used to say that about Keanu Reeves 0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:29.500 and now they understand that he is essentially doing Hong 0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:33.080 Kong style acting where you tell the story through the narrative, 0:57:33.100 --> 0:57:34.380 kind of like what we were talking about when we 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:37.080 were talking about Jackie Chan in our Shang-Chi and Penning 0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:38.740 Doomsday episode you'll be able to hear soon. 0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:39.540 And. 0:57:40.180 --> 0:57:42.880 Trust me, there is something about this man where in 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:45.540 this episode, I was texting Joel and I was just like, 0:57:45.660 --> 0:57:48.860 they understood by this time they had a star. Even 0:57:48.900 --> 0:57:50.760 if it's only this episode, the scene in the car, 0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:52.550 they are lighting him and I'm like, this could be 0:57:52.590 --> 0:57:56.170 in Superman. This looks as good as a scene in Superman. 0:57:56.270 --> 0:57:59.570 Make sure you understand that he needs to be on screen. Also, Jason, 0:57:59.730 --> 0:58:02.910 silly thing to say, but the internet's saying it. I agree. 0:58:02.930 --> 0:58:05.840 I had the same thought. this perfectly sets up Jon 0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.380 Stewart to want to fuck Hawkgirl because he likes an 0:58:08.580 --> 0:58:14.300 old soul. And he doesn't care. He doesn't care if 0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:15.120 she's a killer. 0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:17.100 He doesn't care. 0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:20.620 And he likes to fuck an old lady. That's Superman. 0:58:20.660 --> 0:58:22.930 We need to see it. Hawkgirl, Jon Stewart. We knew 0:58:22.990 --> 0:58:25.390 it was coming. They're going to be a match made 0:58:25.430 --> 0:58:25.930 in heaven. 0:58:25.950 --> 0:58:32.650 I will go one further. I think like, Comic book 0:58:32.750 --> 0:58:36.530 storytelling on the page and on TV and in movies, 0:58:37.310 --> 0:58:42.900 to me, it becomes really great when it steers directly 0:58:42.940 --> 0:58:45.280 into the contradictions. I think that there is a world 0:58:45.340 --> 0:58:50.040 in which it's actually really great when a Justice League 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:55.300 begins to be assembled that Jon Stewart has secrets that 0:58:55.380 --> 0:58:58.400 Batman would think are, like if Batman found out about this, 0:58:58.460 --> 0:58:58.919 wait a second. 0:58:59.020 --> 0:59:01.580 Oh, true. Batman does have a file on all of 0:59:01.620 --> 0:59:03.160 them and he needs the secrets, right? 0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:05.670 If Batman found out about this, he'd be like, that's 0:59:05.750 --> 0:59:09.370 actually fucking crazy. So you know who murdered Hal and 0:59:09.430 --> 0:59:09.970 you just let him know. 0:59:10.060 --> 0:59:10.420 It go. 0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:14.230 Also, you're harboring and protecting the child of an intergalactic 0:59:14.410 --> 0:59:15.610 war criminal on Earth. 0:59:16.130 --> 0:59:17.330 But then what would happen? 0:59:17.390 --> 0:59:20.410 I think Clark could go either way because, like, he 0:59:20.470 --> 0:59:23.950 is an alien on Earth, so unclear how he would go, 0:59:23.970 --> 0:59:26.410 but he would feel really weird about the Hal thing. 0:59:26.730 --> 0:59:28.660 But I think, like, the fact that all of these 0:59:28.740 --> 0:59:32.620 characters could come to a group with their own different 0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:36.820 agendas that are at times, like, in conflict and have 0:59:37.020 --> 0:59:39.640 secrets that, like, they want to hide from each other 0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:43.310 could be really interesting. great for story. 0:59:43.130 --> 0:59:45.810 I agree and I also think they gave a great 0:59:45.970 --> 0:59:48.930 out here by making Sheriff Kerry from Gotham because everyone 0:59:48.970 --> 0:59:51.570 knows Batman has terrible taste in women so if it 0:59:51.610 --> 0:59:53.770 did ever come out it would probably just turn out 0:59:53.790 --> 0:59:56.220 that she was his ex yeah and he'd protect John 0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:58.860 anyway but no Jason I I love that read I 0:59:58.900 --> 1:00:00.840 think this is exactly the kind of shit Batman would 1:00:00.860 --> 1:00:04.160 have in his files and also despite all of this 1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:06.450 you come away from the show wanting to see more 1:00:06.490 --> 1:00:11.890 John We are joking about his decisions, but it is really, 1:00:11.950 --> 1:00:14.250 really funny how you come away and you're like, this 1:00:14.290 --> 1:00:17.150 was great. I love this guy. Good job. Crazy job, 1:00:17.190 --> 1:00:17.650 but good job. 1:00:18.130 --> 1:00:20.830 Well, we're going to be talking more about Lanterns on 1:00:20.850 --> 1:00:25.720 the next episode of X-Ray Vision. We have our Lanterns 1:00:26.380 --> 1:00:29.380 season finale roundtable with the entire crew. 1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:29.600 Woo! 1:00:30.410 --> 1:00:33.030 Also coming up on X-Ray Vision this week, our episode 1:00:33.050 --> 1:00:37.290 of Impending Doomsday, which is Avengers Endgame, including the bonus 1:00:37.310 --> 1:00:39.770 scenes from Endgame Encore. That's it for this episode. 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